Jennifer Carpenter and Michael C. Hall have been divorced for a few years now. Originally, just a day or two before Hall and Carpenter announced their split, we got a tip that Jennifer was acting like a single girl, boning random men and having fun away from Hall. For those of us who were following Hall for the past decade, you might also know that there was some overlap between his first marriage (to Amy Spangler) and his second (Jennifer). What I’m trying to say is that Jennifer moves on quickly and sometimes it’s with married men. Which is why I didn’t find this Radar story shocking in the least:
Dexter star Jennnifer Carpenter has moved on from her failed marriage to co-star Michael C. Hall and has been quietly dating the married folk-rock singer Seth Avett, RadarOnline.com has exclusively learned. Seth, 32, of The Avett Brothers, has been married to his wife Susan since 2008 — and even though he’s still technically married, he’s been dating Jennifer, 33, since 2011.
According to an insider close to the band, the two were engaged in a long-time secret affair that ultimately destroyed his marriage.
“Shortly after Jennifer’s split with Michael, she began seeing Seth. She would fly all over to his concerts to be with him,” the source told Radar. “No one saw this affair coming from those closest to Seth, but he finally left his wife last winter to be with Jennifer.”
In fact, the couple has kept their relationship so secretive that in an interview this year just two months ago, Seth’s wife Susan was talked about, with no mention of their separation. It wasn’t until Tuesday that Seth formally made the announcement on his band’s website that he and his wife are separated.
“Seth no longer sings January Wedding, a song about his wife, at their live shows anymore and hasn’t for quite some time,” the insider said. “And the latest album released by The Avett Brothers is called The Carpenter. It’s not a coincidence.”
“The affair was really hard on Susan, and even the band,” the source told Radar.
“It was former band member Jacob Edwards and his wife that really put Seth on the spot for cheating. They didn’t agree with it whatsoever and were uncomfortable with the situation.”
Fans of the band are just as upset with Seth for his indiscretions with the Dexter star.
“Seth is a dog and Jennifer Carpenter is a homewrecker. Plain and simple. I hope he’s happy now. I hope Susan is ok. No one deserves to be lied to. Seth deserves nothing. Not even his fans,” one former fan wrote on a group chat about the band.
Another wrote, “Seth Avett is a pig for cheating on his wife and Jennifer Carpenter is a very ugly woman.”
RadarOnline.com was unable to reach Seth Avett for comment and calls to Jennifer Carpenter went unreturned.
Wow, Jennifer Carpenter is a total Yoko!! Yeah. So I don’t really have any problems believing every part of this story. I think she was probably fooling around with Seth Avett for a few years, and she’s “The Carpenter” from the album title. Makes sense. Now, do I believe we should chase her around, calling her a homewrecker? Eh. It’s on HIM for the most part. He’s the one with the messy status, she was divorced and angry (because Michael C. Hall was maybe/probably screwing around on her too). This whole tangled web is a disaster.
Here’s Seth Avett’s statement on his band’s website:
Photos courtesy of WENN.
As someone who has followed the Avett Brothers for many years, this is very disheartening. There was something so very genuine about them that I was able to connect to, and this piece of information just makes me sad.
ITA I have loved the Avetts for years. I know Seth and Susan and I was totally not expecting this
And as a Dexter fan I feel the same way.
I love The Avett Brothers, and this news really has me heartbroken. All of the songs feel like lies now 🙁
This. I feel like I’m going to want to roll my eyes listening to them now.
Also a huge Avett Brothers fan, and also heartbroken. 🙁 They are easily two of the most talented songwriters in history (IMO).
I totally agree Brown. I kind of take a personal offense to this in some weird sort of way. Much love being sent out to Susan in this very difficult time. Also, to the other members of this amazing group having to deal with this on top of the other problems the band is dealing with, such as Bob’s daughters health problems.
So many musicians are involved in infidelity scandals though – going back to the days of John and Yoko and even before…. (and John was treating Cynthia like crap and cheating on her long before he met Yoko).
I wonder what it is about musicians and infidelity! I suppose it’s the same thing with actors though – maybe it’s just part of that celebrity culture.
I’m with you and find this all incredibly distasteful. What a shame.
The thing is, if I held a grudge against every band that had a mistress, fucked groupies, OD’d on drugs, trashed a hotel room, treated people like shit…then there probably wouldn’t be anything to listen to. 🙁
I totally agree! There was so much emotion and love in the January Wedding song! Oooohhh woe is me.
JCarp disgusts me. She has a despicable character with no redeeming qualities on Dexter and seems to be a despicable person IRL. Karma, girl–it IS a bitch.
Agreed! I actually had to stop watching Dexter b/c she annoyed me so much. I think I stopped by the 5th season even tho I loved Michael C and the show, I just couldnt stand her for some reason. Im not sure what it is about her but she just gets under my skin and that was before this, now she really disgusts me.
Does anybody know if Jennifer Carpenter stalks her prey before she ensnares them? (Sure, it goes both ways, but she seems to have hounded this guy and made herself very available.) What’s the word on this, anyone?
I do have to say that I have learned a whole new slew of curse words from Deb on Dexter.
I personally do not find her attractive at all. Does she have the mega-poon to keep getting the men?
That’s what I was going to ask. Does she have a magical vadge?
She has a “man face” and I’m not just saying that because she is involved with a married man. I always thought she looked like a man.
Christ on a cracker and Jesus f@ck are my favorites!!! 😉
I’m laughing so hard – I don’t think “mega-poon” would be a big selling point to guys. Reminds me of a Patton Oswalt bit.
Funny, I think she is one of the best things about Dexter, along with Michael C. Hall of course. I also think she is really pretty, I would love to have her long legs.
Although I rarely let my dislike of particular actors ruin a movie or show for me, I may be the only person who has never made it through the first season of Dexter because her presence and derp face was to distracting. Sorry, but she just looks so…punchable.
Oy vey, yes, so punchable. Also possibly the worst actress ever. She ruined that show.
God, I hate homewreckers. January Jones 2.0?
Please, that Jones chick gets suprisingly less hate here. In fact, a lot of Celebitchers like her because she’s ‘real’ and ‘unapologetic’. They argue that she’s single and therefore can do whatever she wants.
Seriously? I’d say about 85% of the people here would be happy to chase January with pitchforks and torches.
You’d be surprised. I was baffled by how many people defended her because she was single and free to do whatever she wants because the married one needs to be faithful.
There is no such thing as an outside HOMEWRECKER. The spouse cheates and the other person doesn’t matter. Married people decide if they want to be faithful or not.
Yes, the other person matters too. They should know boundries. What? People are going to do whatever they want now? She is a homewrecker. Doubt he’d go that far for everyone else. She should’ve known her place.
+1
He’s by far a worse homewrecker than she is. He chose to cheat. Once you’re a cheater, you’re automatically a liar. Not good character traits.
Yeah and to act on the decision to cheat you have to have a willing participoant! If you don’t have that, then you can’t cheat durrr. But obviously it always starts out with the married cheater growing the seeds of betrayal by emotionally distancing yourself of the vows you took and looking out for somebody else conciously or subconciously.
Completely agree, scylla.
I wholeheartedly agree. I always think of Elizabeth Taylor’s line: “You can’t break up a happy marriage.” And she would know.
Unmarried people bear no responsibility for vows they never took.
If I were Susan Avett, or any woman whose husband behaved in this way, I wouldn’t be thinking about the ‘other’ woman – I would be wondering how I could have chosen a man of such poor character. And I would take him for everything he’s got.
Married people are indeed the ones who decide to cheat.
They are the ones that wreck their marriages and you could argue that the cheated would cheat anyway, with some other person.
Yet from the point of vie from the ‘other’… you know that the person cheating on their spouse/significant other with you is very likely doing a hurtful thing to them. Doing something that would bring them pain. And you are participating in that.
You are knowingly and willingly participating in one person hurting another, the one that most likely hasn’t wronged you in any way.
It’s not just about being the guilty party, you know?
And I say it as the one who has in her life been ‘the other woman’.
Actually, it looks like they’re pals: https://www.google.com/search?q=jennifer+carpenter+and+january+jones&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=fni4UfvYF6mq0AHlnoCAAg&biw=1280&bih=921&sei=h3i4UdBPwcbRAbTvgcgP – -I don’t like the term homewrecker and I hesitate to run away with speculation here, especially because I love her character on Dexter, but this seems sticky all around…
Birds of a feather…
I just came here to say aren’t they BFF’s.
Carpenter and JOnes are actually friends. There are pics of them at a basket ball game together.
JC is BFFs with January Jones, so no surprises there. They both like to chase married men. Gross.
being divorced and angry still doesn’t make it okay to sleep with someone else’s husband.
who actually cheated between her and Hall, I always assumed it was Hall, was I wrong? I never knew she was like that, but in fairness I don’t pay much attention to her.
and I hope Seth’s wife takes him for everything he’s got..
Was just about to say that. I don’t get why people insist on being so forgiving to women who meddle with married men because “he’s the married one.” THEY BOTH SUCK. You don’t do that. You don’t get involved with someone who has a commitment to someone else. You don’t actively try to make a man stray like that.
I’ve met girls who’ve done it and let me tell you something: they show NO remorse. They just don’t care. Some even think it’s a great accomplishment. They never regret ruining marriages/relationships. So I don’t think they deserve our understanding. And just because they’re women, that doesn’t mean we have to support their awful choices. Where was their sense of sisterhood when they choose to go after taken men?
Yes, everybody should be responsible for their own actions, but I would not go so far as to say they RUINED the relationship via this affair. If the guy (or girl) is willing to cheat, lie, etc., the relationship was already ruined and/or not very good in the first place. If things aren’t working BE HONEST!! And then LEAVE- DON’T be a coward- the lying just makes it worse for everyone.
Yes! I have been through this argument so many times with women. People act as if there’s a pot of blame to go around, and you have to divide it up percentage-wise, and most of it should go to the man. NO. The man is an asshole for cheating on his wife; the woman is an asshole for sleeping with a married man. Two different bad actions that don’t cancel each other out in any way. Each party when evaluated on his or her own merits is awful in such a situation.
As someone whose marriage is ending because of cheating, here here. My husbands skank is just as much to blame. She knew he was married, and didn’t give a shit. Her character is just as shitty as my husband’s. Good news is, they have the shittiest relationship ever, involving alcohol abuse and arrests. I get to sit on the sidelines smirking and eating popcorn.
Karma….she has a long memory and she’s mad. :o)
Yuya
So sorry to hear your pain. However, it would be ridiculous to expect every person on the planet to abide by some unwritten code to protect your marriage. If a guy is cheating its either because he is a lying ferret incapable of loyalty or the marriage is damaged (or both). Either way that man will cheat, if not with Jennifer then with Mary. I speak as someone whos been on the receiving end. I spent exactly 1 day thinking about the mistress until I made the choice to focus my anger on the only person I had any right to expect anything from.
It was actually my bro that got me to that place. He told me that guys may be competetive but if a girl cheats on you, its the girl whos defective. Unless the guy is your friend then he owes you no duty of care. It was very liberating to apply this to my marriage. Far less anger and paranoia.
Its like an armed robbery- there is the dude that goes into the bank and waives the gun and takes all the money, and there is the dude that waits outside and drives the getaway car. Both participate in the act, both need each other for the act to go wrong. The armed robber is the one who took the vows- what he did is a worse crime, but the getaway driver is not blameless.
i remember a lot of reports around the time that Hall was battling cancer that she was stepping out on him then– partying and having flings. I know Hall was always painted as the adulterer in their marriage, but I think at the very least, it was both of them.
This is gross b/c she pulled a Rimes. She followed him around on tour, tweeting about the band/concerts, etc. She really seemed to go after him. Not that he didn’t have responsibility, but she seemed to stalk him to an extent as well.
I’m really surprised that the band went along with the album name “The Carpenter” if it was the bandmembers who eventually forced his hand into ending his marriage b/c of his wandering dong. That seems super sketchy to me. Also all of Carpenter’s tweets about their new album are so gross– it’s like she’s bragging about it.
the band member who forced his hand was basically alienated and eventually ousted from the group.
Wasn’t Hall rumoured to have cheated on Carpenter with Stiles? And just cheating in general? That makes it even more horrible because Carpenter should know the pain she inflicts by entering a relationship with a married man. To allow herself to be dragged along for years is baffling too.
The married party is the most to blame of course. He’s a true dog, refusing to decide for years. The damage is crazy. He’s disgusting. And to put in little digs towards his wife and the album title, how can people behave this way.
I hope they’re both miserable together, it’s not nearly as much fun when you actually have to put up with each other in a serious committed relationship.
@NM9005, who wrote: “Wasn’t Hall rumoured to have cheated on Carpenter with Stiles? And just cheating in general?”
There was never, ever any proof that Julia Stiles had sex/an affair with Michael C. Hall and ‘homewrecked’ his marriage. The fact is, the ‘Gossip Maven’ who started this whole thing may have jumped the gun, considering other well known Gossip columnists had also gotten whiff of a possible sex scandal on the “Dexter” set and were waiting for confirmation before printing anything (thus said Ted Casablanca).
Even today if you Google ‘Michael C. Hall and Julia Sties’ you’ll get a host of Internet and mainstream news hits, all quoting the ‘Gossip Maven’s’ original article as a source.
Why do I think she jumped the gun, trying to beat her competition by being first to post the ‘scandal?’ Because the day after the “Dexter” Season 5 finale aired, Carpenter and Hall issued a joint announced their separation. The next day the ‘Gossip Maven’ posted the Michael C. Hall/Julia Stiles sex scandal (I guess assuming the announced separation was all the proof she needed?). Three days later, Jennifer Carpenter filed for divorce, citing that she and her husband (who, mind you, had his last radiation treatment for cancer in April 2010) had been separated since August 8, 2010. It’s entirely possible that Carpenter and Hall held the news until ‘after’ the Season Finale on purpose.
And what actual proof did the ‘Gossip Maven’ have to support her claim that Michael C. Hall and Julia Stiles were having an affair? A set worker said he saw Hall looking at Julia’s butt, and a ‘source’ said they saw Michael C. Hall and Julia Stiles looking cozy NYC at a Halloween party in October, during the same time they were filming the last three episodes of Season 5. There were no photos to back up the NYC Halloween sighting (didn’t anyone have a cell phone handy?), and–to date–no photos of any kind showing Michael C. Hall and Julia Stiles together, other than on set photos, have surfaced.
The real tragedy? Poor Julia Stiles, who was nominated for a Golden Globe ‘and’ an Emmy for her incredible portrayal of Lumen Pierce, had never had an Awards season, which was ruined by this crap … and most likely never will again.
@Emma THANK YOU I really hate reading about how Michael C. Hall cheated with Julia Stiles when the only evidence is a gossip article with an unnamed source saying they saw Michael looking at her ass on set one day.
I’m pretty sure the Unnamed Source was Jennifer Carpenter. She was FURIOUS when she and Hall broke up, but he’s the star of the show so her job was still dependent on her ex-husband. That would explain a lot, because they pretty much told her to get herself together if she wanted to keep her job. Do you remember that awards season? Not only did Hall and Stiles stay away from each other, but Carpenter and Stiles avoided each other like thr plague.
@ Bridget, who wrote: “I’m pretty sure the Unnamed Source was Jennifer Carpenter. She was FURIOUS when she and Hall broke up, but he’s the star of the show so her job was still dependent on her ex-husband. That would explain a lot, because they pretty much told her to get herself together if she wanted to keep her job.”
She was ‘furious’ with him during the actual filming of season 5 (and got a couple of warnings because she was mouthing off about Michael to all the cast and crew), but I think most of that was because they had to sit on their separation for 5 months so the news wouldn’t over shadow the season. By all written accounts at the time, her bitching was all about ‘him’ personally rather than who he may or may not have been screwing.
And if Jennifer was the ‘source’ at the NYC Halloween party in NYC watching Julia and Michael all cozed up? Honey, there ‘would’ have been pictures, if only of ‘her’ face while watching them. 😉
But she couldn’t have been ‘that’ mad at Michael, because he visited her back stage every night for about a week in NYC during the run of her play in February 2011. They looked happy and relaxed with each other, which leads me to believe the divorce was something they ‘both’ probably wanted.
@Bridget again, who wrote: “Do you remember that awards season? Not only did Hall and Stiles stay away from each other, but Carpenter and Stiles avoided each other like thr plague.”
Julia Stiles stayed away from the entire “Dexter” cast during that Awards season, other than when they were actually seated together at the venue. A shame too, because the season 5 “Dexter” cast received a SAG Award nomination for Best Ensemble. They couldn’t even promote it because of all the gossip.
Jennifer Carpenter’s filing for divorce right after the season ended only complicated matters.
There was also a LOT of hatred from women for Julia Stiles, too, which fanned the flames and kept the rumor going (they were so quick to believe she’d do such a thing). I swear, next to Angelina Jolie I can’t think of any other actress who gets more highly focused personal hate from women. Sad.
I like her. Who knows what went on, there’s no proof of anything but even so, he was the married one.
And she should’ve respected that.
The onus was on him (if it’s even true). Not saying she is innocent, just sick of the overwhelming instinctive need for people to go for the ‘other woman’s’ jugular while in a lot of cases dismissing the married man. It’s like they think ‘oh he’s just a man, how could he resist, let’s go after the temptress bitch for leading him astray’
Emotions of the heart are often complicated, i don’t think people who stray are entirely cold hearted. Often times people can be desperately lonely even in marriages and relationships, and stupid things happen in vulnerable moments. Not saying that this is the case here and i know that some people are just rampant cheaters who don’t give a damn about their partners. But not every thing is cut and dry. It’s not a popular opinion but it’s what i think.
“Emotions of the heart are often complicated, i don’t think people who stray are entirely cold hearted.”
I’ll go in the *unpopular corner* with you on this one. I think we can all agree that cheating is wrong but to paint it as an uncomplicated situation is really naive. People are complex creatures-affairs are not always a matter of villain/victim.
Life is not a rom com, guys.
Personally, I would never touch a married man but some people are too weak to say no. To say that is not to excuse their behavior in any way, simply to shed light on human’s inherent fallibility.
Listen, if every person who has an affair is a villain then that means the whole world is full of evildoers, because a LOT of people cheat, guys. Human nature is not immune to temptation.
Mia and TOK, I agree with you 10,000 times.
@Annie +1
Just reading the story, it is really confusing as to why he (or his wife) would drag this out 2 years- kids? money? Or did his wife just find out recently?? Regardless, people should have the guts/honesty to end it with one person BEFORE their next jump off– it really looks like a matter of having your cake & eating it, too. Also, it sounds like it’s been a super awkward few years for the band, too. VERY selfish.
They don’t have kids. I don’t think Susan knew for at least the first year to year and a half. Like I said, no one close to him expected this. I think everyone took him at his word when he insisted that nothing was going on
Michael C. Hall and Amy Spangler always looked like brother/sister to me. It kind of creeped me out.
I’ve hated Jennifer Carpenter’s “Dexter” character ‘Deb’ since the very first episode of the show’s first season. However, I really don’t think there was any overlap between the time Michael C. Hall divorced Amy Spangler and got together with Carpenter.
They separated in 2005 and Hall filed for divorce in 2006, just before “Dexter” first aired. Unless Carpenter and Hall are into 3-somes, there is no way Jennifer caused Hall’s divorce. Because during the first season of “Dexter” Jennifer dated and was in a relationship with actor Christian Camargo, who played Brian Moser/The Ice Truck serial killer, and Dexter’s brother.
Michael C. Hall’s divorce was final in 2007.
Jennifer and Michael started dating during season 2 (2007), and got married on New Year’s Eve after season 3 (2008).
Oh, man, I hate this story. I always kind of liked Jennifer Carpenter — she seemed sort of “real” and not very Hollywood. I guess I was just fooled by the character she plays. Le sigh. I need to learn to assume the worst about everyone in Hollywood; then I’ll never be disappointed.
Me too. This is so skanky.
@Faye
I have been reading the comments on this post, the Cameron Douglas post, and others of course because I’m avoiding actual work.
I think I like you.
Thanks, Mrs. Peacock! I have back to back meetings where it tends to get boring when I’m not actively involved, so this site is a nice distraction. But sometimes I feel very alone opinion-wise, so I appreciate the support!
So I just found out that my boyfriend has been cheating on me, and I’m not pissed at the other woman at all. I know she knows about me, but… I figure it’s not up to HER to look out for me- it’s up to HIM, the one I am supposed to have the relationship with, to look out for me. And he hasn’t, and that’s not her fault. She didn’t STEAL him, he WENT. SO the next time I see her out, I may buy her a drink because I think she may have done me a really big favor. And the next time I see HIM, it will be when he comes to pick up his shit from my house and it’ll be waiting for him on the lawn- on fire. Because that’s how I get down.
AMEN, sista!! I’m sorry for your pain though. Been there, done that. I found out my ex-husband was cheating for sure–I suspected it but had no proof–when my then 4-year-old son told me. Apparently, he took my son along on their dates thinking “he’s just a kid, he doesn’t know anything”. I didn’t get mad at the girl, because he lied to her. I found out where she lived, went to visit her, and gave her a sincere heads-up about him. We had a nice talk (once she realized I had no interest in beating her a$$ lol) and she was truly horrified to find out the extent of the BS he had told her. We parted friends, and she broke it off with him. 🙂 I left him also. haha She did me a huge favor.
Agreed. The same thing happened to me. Bf of 5 years cheated on me. She knew about me but slept with him anyway. I didn’t hate her or blame her. He was the douche. In the end we both ended up dumping him and he cried and whined like the little bitch he was. There is no reason to hate the other woman when it’s the man that is the issue.
You’re my hero for today!
People are so stupid and weak when it comes to cheating.
I admire your style!
Twice I have caught a cheating BF in my life, two different guys. The first time I moved out and stiffed him on rent he couldn’t afford for six months, so he got evicted. The girl had no idea about me, and we actually became friends after, bonding over what a douche he was.
The second time resulted in a broken face, because the girl he was “cheating” with was an inebriated 15-year-old who I suspected was drugged, the poor girl. I have higher standards now.
Long story short, this girl did you a favor. Cheaters suck, and I wish you the best moving forward!
*high fives Cletus*
Well, if you’re dumb enough to marry a male athlete or musician, then you deserve to deal with being cheated on. If you’re gonna be stupid, you gotta be tough.
The most “famous” person in this story is some C list actress on a cable TV show. I miss the days when famous people didn’t keep their crap locked up tight.
Agreed. Never, ever marry an athlete or a rock star, ladies!
I generally agree with that sentiment but my husband was a touring musician for twelve years and he is the most moral,wonderful man I have ever met. He just found nothing attractive about cheap,drunk women who just wanted to sleep with someone “famous”. My father also was a professional guitarist and would have died before he ever thought of cheating on my mother with some skanky groupie. The temptation is there for many others but most of the artists I know are actually boring and stable family men. The wives and kids are there during sound check and backstage waiting. It just isn’t “cool” to let fans in on that;)
You mean “Did Seth Avett Cheat on his Wife?”
Fixed the sexism for ya.
Oh please. Because it’s so feminist, and our duty as women, to protect every a-hole with a vagina. I’m pretty sure she knew what she was doing.
That heading pissed me off too. It turns the guy into some witless automaton with no will power or responsibilities. Its offensive to both women and men. Mens rights advocates and feminists would happily bond over this one.
Totally what it should be.
+1 Or Did Set Avett divorce because he was cheating?
You mean hold a man accountable for his own actions? Someone fetch me my smelling salts.
Love you.
+1. I don’t like what she did, but he is entirely to blame for the demise of his marriage.
You mean “Did Seth Avett Cheat on his Wife?”
Fixed the sexism for ya.
You mean “Did Seth Avett Cheat on his Wife?”
Fixed the sexism for ya.
They BOTH are disgusting. Jennifer Carpenter’s true colors are shining through… Colors like no integrity, no respect and complete selfishness. A truly mature woman doesn’t have an affair with a married man. IMO.
“Seth is a dog and Jennifer Carpenter is a homewrecker. Plain and simple”
Enough said
If this story is true, then all the blame falls to Seth. While I think that being with a married man isn’t cool at all, he’s the one who broke his vows.
Yes, always- the displaced anger (more than than at the husband) is odd. It so lets the “vow taker” off the hook- like the men are kidnapped babies or something. A man will not leave if he is happy. If a man isn’t happy, that doesn’t mean the wife’s/girlfriend’s fault per se, but clearly the relationship isn’t working. This guy is a selfish coward for not simply ending it with his wife THEN moving on. I’d ask why JC would want such a weaselly liar, but there is no accounting for taste. CLETUS– rock on- thanks for sharing your story!
People there is a happy medium with situations like this. Your partner is an a-hole for cheating on you but the person who has entered into a relationship with someone that is already in an relationship with someone else is also an a-hole.
+1. Both of them are so very wrong. For different reasons, but wrong nonetheless.
wow, is all I can say…messy!
Wasn’t she friend with January Jones? LOL
Yep, and I think it’s hilarious, I hope JC introduces him to JJ. Now January can have a new *involved* man in her life she can steal!
The only person who wrecked the home is the person in the marriage. The outside person is irrelevant. If it wasn’t her, it would have been someone else.
+1000. The guy is a jerk for not coming clean, though. Honesty, such a lonely word…
Yup. Stop blaming the other chick when it’s the scummy dude you married.
This.
You’re saying that if any chick actively pursues your partner/husband it’s fine as long as he says no.
Many humans don’t say no forever though
I don’t think it’s cool at all for women to pursue married men, and I think Jennifer is horrible for doing so. Still the one who is in the committed relationship should carry the brunt of the responsibility for cheating. Too often women place the blame on the “other woman” and leave the man faultless.
I don’t understand this whole debate. Why does it have to be one or the other? The married spouse is a cheater and a liar. The single lover is an a-hole for hooking up with a married person. There are plenty of fish in the sea…there is no legitimate reason to pursue one that is already hooked.
IMO, They are BOTH to blame. For very different reasons, but still the only innocent here seems to be the wife.
+1000
Ditto. The only part if the debate I get is pointing out the lopsided headline and it being a symptom of persistent sexism. A headline like “asshole and asshole cheat on spouses together, wreck homes” would work just fine.
+1. She’s just an asshole. Being an asshole doesn’t wreck marriages. Cheating on your spouse on the other hand, now that will wreck a marriage.
Exactly what Dubois said. Perfectly stated.
I can’t respect women who don’t respect another woman’s marriage but it was Avett who ruined his marriage, not her.
@ Micki- you said it all. I so don’t agree with the premise that a woman who knowingly skulks- and other things- with a married man gets a pass. He’s breaking his vows, but she is knowingly inflicting harm on some other person. And for those who contend that for this to happen there are probs, it was open relay- well, care to hazard a guess as to how many times the woman consults wife as to status of relay or how “open” it is? Prob zero.
OT-Still love January Wedding- saw a concert where she joined him on stage – she has a wonderful voice.
But how knowingly is it. I’ve had friends who have dated married dudes because they bought the “we’re separated” or “we’ve filed for divorce” line from the guy when that proved not to be the case. It can be a sticky situation.
So many men who cheat use the “we’re separated, or we’re living different lives” line. The married man is a jerk regardless. However, I have heard some stories about crazy mistresses. My friend’s stepsister’s husband was pursued by a coworker and they would go out to his car during lunch and have sex. She knew he was married and that his wife was pregnant. She herself ended up getting pregnant and had a baby six months after his wife. When he finally came clean after his wife came to him with her suspicions, the mistress called every day and left menacing voice mails. She would say that she was going to kill the wife and her daughters so her and the husband would be together. Now, ten years later, my friend’s stepsister is actually the legal guardian of the child from his affair (they separated for a time, but never got divorced) because the mother lost custody due to abuse and neglect. Did Fatal Attraction teach men nothing?? Sometimes a simple “affair” ain’t so simple!
Well, back to original point- get that line, ask” mind if I verify that?” And how often does that happen? Not much. Why?- (1) either know its not true, and/or (2) don’t care. Totally agree that married guys who float this gambit are a%%holes of the highest order, but, sorry, still no pass.
So while your loins are aflame with passion, you are going to take a time-out to call the “estranged” spouse or do a records search in the internet? A romantic you are.
Honestly I couldn’t care less about “home-wreckers”. It takes two to do the deed and if the married man is up for it, both parties are equally guilty. No one forced him to have sex with her.
On a side note though I have never liked her face. Is that weird? She has just never been very appealing to me.
That is idiotic – its NEVER the singles persons equal responsibility or blame – EVER.
That single person hanst walked down a church isle, and sworn before God and Man to love honor protect and stay faithful to their future spouse until they die,
Good God – the only rationalisation I can think of when people say this is that its been done to them and they just cant bear to blame their partner so they blame the woman.
Sorry but you’re the one who sounds idiotic and myopic.
No, I think you’re right, Chutzpah, There’s plenty of blame for both, but it’s not equal, for exactly the reason you mentioned.
How do we know Michael C Hall was the only cheater in that relationship? Seems to me Jenny has a pattern. Maybe their marriage failed because both cheated. Why blame him only. Looks like Jennifer has no problem with overlapping relationships or cheating herself. Just because she is female doesn’t automatically make her a victim.
I’ve always gotten a rotten vibe off of her and have always hoped she was going to be killed off on Dexter. She is a horrible actress and hard to watch. I suffer because I do like the show but cannot stand her.
there are reports they were both cheating. i remember reading a lot of reports that she was stepping out on him a lot while he was going through cancer treatments…not that cheating is every okay, but to me that is the worst of the worst.
Never heard his music but his pics emanate a strong douche vibe to me. I don’t get people who piggyback/cheat into a new relationship. I would never feel secure knowing the person I’m with had cheated on the last person, because guess what…it does disapoint me a bit because I love her on Dexter, but it seems like a pattern for her.
He looks as if he really needs a shower. If you like him, send him shampoo?
YES. I see smelly balls and dingleberries when I look at him.
A rockstar cheated on his wife with a beautiful actress? OH MY GOD, NO WAAAAAAAYYY.
Beautiful actress….don’t think so. She is not even remotely attractive. She looks like a poor excuse for a tranny.
Honestly, I see what she saw in him. His lyrics are some of the most beautiful around. And he is easy on the eyes. But this does not mean it is ok to mess with a married man. To pursue him. He is a dirty bird for stepping out. It is BOTH SIDES rotten. He is totally a dog. It makes me sad for everyone involved. We are all human and we make mistakes. I just hope that the truth has been told to those who matter and remorse is felt and acknowledged. I just wish that he didn’t have to become “famous” by boning a C list actress. Because those words, those songs…are meant to be heard.
Can’t believe how judgmental everyone is with so much hate. Stop throwing stones people. I mean, unless you’re perfect yourselves. You don’t know these people or their minds or their hearts. Even though it’s really sad that people get hurt in situations like this, and no one likes to see that happen, how is this even so disturbing to you? It happens among great people who are not douche bags or rats. I’m more disgusted by all of the self righteous condemnation I’m hearing than I am about this personal news that has been made public. People have been having sex all over the place for centuries. As for Seth – he is one talented person whose music should definitely be heard. He’s also one of the kindest, most sincere, truly good people around. If you haven’t seen the Avetts perform live – you owe it to yourself to do so. And you’ll also see that he is one gorgeous man (inside and out) who thousands of women would like to trade in their husbands for. Please stop with the hate.
It takes two to tango. He broke his vows and she helped him do it. Was the marriage already in trouble? Most likely. Would it have been someone else if not Jennifer? Probably. But it was her and she deserves to be held responsible for being an eager and willing accomplice to his adultery.
If he lied to her and said he wasn’t married, that would be a different story, but it sounds like she knew and didn’t care.
I do agree his adultery should be the headline, though honestly I’ve never heard of him.
I suspect their realtionship won’t end well, since most relationships that start this way don’t. Who can respect and trust a cheater? Thank goodness there are no children involved in the divorce. Hopefully the cheater and his partner in crime won’t compound their mistake by getting pregnant.
NO. This man was willing to cheat regardless of ‘who’ came around and partook of it. HE is married, so HE ruined HIS marriage, and she was just a MEANS to the end that he was going to reach, sooner or later.
Its just the same trend of excusing what a man does, and blaming women for everything when it comes to sex.
And she was eager and willing to help him cheat. I get the sexism argument, but honestly if she were a man, I would feel the same.
On the other hand, how the media would handle it might be a different story. Trying to think of an example where it was the wife cheating with another man, but can’t at the moment.
I am sorry but I think people like you who claim they would say the same thing if it was a guy are being dishonest. The overwhelming burden of guarding marriages falls on women. See Kristen Stewart. How many even remember the directors name.
Its a stupid backward attitude. Shame on any woman who perpetuates it. Whoever promised you fidelity is your villain. Not the men or women he was with (unless they promised you loyalty too lol)
@Merylynn,
I’m sorry, but I don’t know you and I can only speak for myself.
I don’t agree with anyone who held Kristen to a higher standard than the married director who betrayed his wife and kids. I remember saying at the time that he deserved to be dumped and should never be entrusted in a position of power again.
To be honest, what bothered me the most about Kristen’s behaviour wasn’t the sex (don’t know that it even occurred), but that she knew the wife and kids and was still so careless. But he was worse – much worse. It was HIS wife and kids.
Some of the response could be undoubtedly be attributed to sexism, but she was also the more famous of the two and already had a public persona. If it was a famous actor with a famous girlfriend and a controversial public rep fooling around with some no-name woman director with a husband and kids, I would expect the actor to get most of the headlines – but I would also expect the woman director to get more attention than Sanders did because of inherent sexism.
I consider myself a feminist. I’m very sensitive to double standards and I abhor the slut-shaming and other sexist nonsense that goes on far too often, particularly where young actresses are concerned. But in my opinion, anyone who knowingly enters a relationship with a married person is siding with the cheater against the person being cheated on.
I know it’s not always that cut-and-dried. People lie to each other all the time when they want sex. But what they do when they discover they’ve been lied to matters. If they continue to excuse the adulterer’s behaviour, then they go from victim to being become complicit in my opinion. It doesn’t make the person committing adultery any less guilty to acknowledge that.
Meg Ryan and Russell Crowe spring to mind, and I don’t think her “sweetheart” rep ever recovered, but I don’t think Russell got flack for “homewrecking.”
Obviously neither Jennifer nor Seth was innocent in this situation, especially if she “went after” him. I do think that you can’t force someone to cheat, and Seth is more to blame because Jennifer didn’t make any promises to Mrs. Avett. Seth did. It’s not like stealing someone’s wallet.
I actually agree, she ‘helped’ him cheat, in no way do I find her guiltless for what she did. but, as far as the question of who is to blame for ruining the marriage via an affair, I do believe the vow of fidelity pertains to the married persons, and the pepole who make and sustain a marriage, are at fault when said marriage collapses (for a number of reasons, not just cheating)- and then at last, when everything has failed, it is the responsibility of the partners to be honest to their spouse and say that its over, when its over, and go separate ways, rather than betraying their blind trust (or at last breaking their promise)…. I left out all those details cos my opinion boils down to the first thing I said 😉 lol And of course my remark was more targeted against the whole “cricufy the homewrecker” nonsense when a MAN cheated on his WIFE.
The person in the marriage is the one who ruined the marriage, they are the homewrecker. Knowingly sleeping with someone who’s married is pretty sh1tty, but they chose to break their vows and step out. Jennifer is not blameless, but I agree with you, he ruined his own marriage!
@ mercyme: yes!! Well said.
*Sigh* I used to have a celebrity crush on Carpenter. I thought she was gorgeous.
THEY LOOK LIKE BROTHER & SISTER!!!
Right?
There’s probably some narcissim in there if they are “in love” with someone who looks like themselves but opposite gender…just sayin
YESSSSSS
I texted my friend last night ABOUT THIS EXACT THING. I said well, I lost some respect for Seth (as a person, not a songwriter) and to those that say, “Go fuck yourself, Seth Avett” HE TOTALLY DID.
Ha!!! Too funny.
To be fair to Jen, the celebrity guy I was dating at the time of that tip also saw Michael C. Hall enter a club with his ring on and leave with it off, along with a girl on each arm. They were both acting like single people at that time. Jen was interested in my ex’s friend and throwing parties to get him to come over, but Michael was cheating it up too.
“throwing parties to get him to come over. . . . ”
Wow. Desperate, screwed up chick!
It really was desperate. Mikey [my ex] described it as really weird. They were doing the movie Ex Girlfriends together and Mikey said she was always trying to get him to bring his friend around, including throwing parties. But C. Hall was no better and I feel like Jennifer was reacting desperately because her husband was stepping out on her.
I’m not calling shade on this, but it’s just hard to believe they had to postpone shooting until Michael C. Hall build up a bit of muscle, and his strength, after his last radiation treatment in April 2010, but he had enough stamina to go at it with too chicks at a time.
I remember reading what you state at TMZ during the story frenzy, too. I didn’t buy it then either, because I’ve known two people who have gone through cancer treatment and they had absolutely nothing left afterwards.
I’d also be curious to know when during or even after his treatment this occured. I also had lymphoma, and let’s just say there’s no way I could’ve been orgying it up – sorry. I mostly took naps for months after treatment, a walk was a big effort. During chemo you feel like sh#t for a week after, barely human the second, and just when you start to feel halfway ok it’s time for more chemo. So unless he is superhuman…not saying I don’t think he’s capable of being a jerk just because he had cancer, more than half of all marriages do not survive the upheaval it brings. Just physically I don’t get how he could be so energetic.
I saw pics of her hanging out with january jones when she was knocked up with a married mans baby, homewreckers stick together.
with these two though, their lack of shame is the most appalling thing. naming your album after your mistress while you’re still married? attacking your twitter feed pretty much announcing your following around the bad on tour? if they showed some shame and some secrecy they’d be expressing knowledge that what they’re doing is wrong, but they seem to make no apologies about their behavior.
I’m sorry, but half this article is garbage. The album was most definitely NOT named after a home wrecker. I just saw Seth sing “January Wedding” on April 28, and the same weekend they (Scott and Seth) publicly said WHAT the song was about…a wedding in January. Now, maybe the affair happened, but don’t piss off TAB fans with false info.
Okaaaaay…
So what IS the album named after?
She’s a man, man.
The album comes from their song on it called The Once and Future Carpenter which has been around long before Jennifer was. If you know anything about TAB you’ll know that they work and rework songs for years, People have been hearing the song live for years now. Also, they’ve used the refernce of The Carpenter before in their lyrics and in artwork. It’s been associated with them probably before Seth was even with Susan.
So yeah….I don’t buy the album being named after her at all.
To Annie and MadinCarolina: Thanks for clearing that up about the title of the album! People will believe anything.
The song “The Once and Future Carpenter” is a play on the name of the book “The Once and Future King” which has been around for decades. Very clever of those Avett boys. Their work is brilliant! and will be around long after the gossip…and people’s misplaced rage. And as mentioned – the title of the album was explained very clearly by Scott in various interviews. Love those guys.
Sigh. Another suspicious hook-up. Better add this couple to my ever-growing list of cheaters and homewreckers, along with another actress, Poppy Montgomery and her Microsoft executive boyfriend Shaun Sanford.
What’s with the Yoko crack?
Wow. She is not that pretty.
While I understand the argument that, since he is the one who is married, he is the one who owes his spouse something, we tend to forget that on a basic human level we all owe each other something–respect. So while the other woman or other man may not owe the cheated spouse loyalty, s/he does owe that person enough respect not to actively pursue their spouse. Call me idealistic or naive if you will, but that’s just how I see it. In this particular situation, it seems as if Jennifer actively pursued this man and he had no problem being pursued, so they are both to blame.
Asiyah: well said. It’s like people think we owe each other nothing if its not notarized. Common decency not so common I guess.
I would understand anyone for wanting to sleep with Jennifer, married or not. I know I would, those legs are to die for and the thought of being wrapped around with them… but obviously, if this is true, then it’s a pretty shitty thing to do. I don’t understand what the bandmates had to do with the marriage though, but then I don’t know the band either… was the wife part of the band? or the bandmates just felt the need to meddle on the marriage without being caught in the middle?
Wow, I’m just surprised that the Avett Brothers are famous enough to be gossiped about. I used to go to their shows when they were our small hometown hardcore band Nemo, and my friend thought they were hot and I couldn’t care less. So glad I didn’t marry a rock (or rockabilly) star!
Isn’t this the same chick who made it her mission to make Julia Stiles an outcast after it was reported that Julia and Michael C. Hall were having an affair.
Wow. Funny how things work. I hope this ‘homewrecker’ label sticks to her and the stench follows her where ever she goes.
Karma, karma, karma.
She always looks like an unhinged, overemotional bitch to me for some reason.
Don’t hate the othe woman,because the one who married was the man..who can not resist and stay in marriage.
Most Man is always thinking with their pants than their brain. When a woman offer more of it and give them the adoration that the current partner slightly lack,they soon jump over it.
So..hope they can make it work ,and for his ex wife..she deserve a better man and better life without a man who don’t appreciate her.
Life move on.
she’s a leann junior
i pity seth’s wife…she’s been leann’ed!
Maybe he should have called the song “January Jones Wedding”.
I didn’t read all 150-ish comments, but the consensus seems to be to vilify both parties here. If that’s what you need to do, so be it. However, life happens. People make choices, both good and bad. Some of them come to nothing, and some of them change our lives forever. If we can, we learn from our choices and become better people because of them.
Maybe I’m the only one coming from the perspective of someone who’s been both mistreated in marriage and who also has made mistakes in marriage. I’m responsible for the mistakes I’ve made, but I can’t go back and change them now; neither can my ex-spouse. All we can do is forgive, move on, and try to be better people.
No need to throw stones at those who are still learning.
Absolutely unacceptable Scott. I’ve been a fan since mignonette, have posters in my room, have photos on flickr of you guys, have lyrics put to photos. I quit listening to Relient K b/c of this and I am sorry but I cannot listen or support y’all in any way, not until the actual truth is out. I literally shed tears hearing this b/c your lyrics are so genuine and full of wisdom, you cannot break vows before God. My father cheated on my mother recently after 30 years of marriage, I’ve never felt such guilt, and pain in all my life and I’m severely chronically ill (so I know about pain and suffering and loss; I’ve lost everything in life). It is the ultimate betrayal and it defies everything you’ve ever written or sang. Justin was fired b/c of his morals!? From the moment he confronted you, you should have ended it with this woman. Your fans will never see you the same again. I wrote a song about what my father did called “forlorn”, that’s how I feel, our family is split, my mom’s screwed up now with depression and feeling unwanted and discarded (poor susan), and I think my father is a coward. You have to lay down your armor and seek help, that’s why we have psychologists – men need to learn to lay down their pride and women better monitor their good looking rock star husbands.
P.S. This woman seems like a major homewrecker, every comment talks about how she was having affairs left and right. Once a cheater always a cheater, she will do it to seth sadly. Be ready to taste your own medicine pal, I’ve seen this plenty of times.
It seems they are both cheaters. Not a positive attribute.