You guys, I’m starting to get concerned that we’ve completely misunderstood the Cressida Bonas situation. To hear her friends tell it, Cressy is too bohemian and hippie-chic, and her free spirit would have been miserably tamped down by the mean old royal family. But in the wake of Cressy and Harry’s split, we’re seeing a new side of Cressy. And she seems more and more like Duchess Kate. As in, the Daily Mail’s Katie Nicholl published a story which seems designed to “force” Harry into rethinking the breakup, which is almost exactly what Kate did with William in 2007. You can read the Nicholl piece here. Some highlights:
*Cressida is so down-to-earth and boho that she wears Nike Air Max trainers all the time, even to semi-official events. And Prince Harry tried to “gently nudge Cressida about her relaxed dress sense. Harry suggested tenderly that – in the future – she would have to smarten up just a touch if she was to get the full seal of approval from The Firm.” This led to a fight in which Cressy “declared she felt the Palace was ‘banning’ her from being herself.”
*Cressida really has been given “compassionate leave” from work. Nicholl writes: “A passionate and talented dancer, she had only taken the £20,000 office job after being advised that she could not combine a performance career and life as a Royal girlfriend. Now that role is no longer hers, she has been given compassionate leave while she contemplates her private life.”
*Harry has been sending Cressida “15 texts a day” with “updates, anecdotes and words of affection.” He’s trying to “prove” to her that she’s The One.
*Harry wants to meet up with Cressy as soon as he arrives back in London. Allegedly, he believes they should get back together. They talked about marriage over Christmas, but Harry is wary of the pressure to get engaged.
*Another fight they had leading up the split: Cressida was not invited to the “boys only” bachelor party in Miami ahead of Guy Pelly’s wedding. She canceled her flight because, according to a source: “Harry wanted to party and Cressida didn’t see the point in going all the way to America to watch him fall out of a nightclub. She was convinced he wanted to go wild and party without her. But he has been on his best behaviour to show her that he’s a changed man.”
*A “family source” (I guess Cressida’s family) says that the argument about the bachelor party “escalated into something much bigger.” Cressida feels like Harry doesn’t appreciate the fact that she’s “had to sacrifice a lot to be with Harry. She has turned down a lot of opportunities professionally.” What?????
*Sources claim that Harry is convinced that Cressida is “his perfect princess” and this breakup is just a temporary “sabbatical.”
*Apparently, Cressida’s mom, Lady Mary Gaye Curzon, told Cressy to stop arguing with Harry so much and to stop “undermining” him. Cressy feels like she’s “too young” for all of this.
*This part is nonsensical: “While they have many things in common, they are also a couple in contrast. He barely reads a book; she goes to book lectures. She’s bohemian, individual, clever. He is sporty, unacademic and relaxed, though at heart he is conservatively traditional – like all Royals. She’s a free spirit on a budget. With her small salary she has to count the pennies, worry about getting a mortgage and take airfare costs seriously. He’s a Royal who has never had to pick up a drinks tab.” What?! She’s 25 and this is her first job – she’s been a perpetual academic and dance student for years. Didn’t her wealthy family bankroll her life up until now? And aren’t they still?
*Harry has met Cressida’s family and everybody was on board with the road to marriage. Apparently, her family members are “not happy” with Harry.
*Alternate theory: Harry and Cressida coordinated this breakup to throw the press off the scent that they are super-serious about each other.
Okay, I’ll say it: the glaring contradictions in this story (sourced almost entirely by Cressida-friendly people) are making me rethink Cressida Bonas. You can’t be a bohemian free spirit, unwillingly to compromise in the face of the conservative royal family AND be on the marriage fast track to the point where your family was expecting an engagement announcement at any time. Something doesn’t add up (the Bonas’ finances, for one). And I suspect it’s that Cressida’s chase-me game blew up in her face, plus she’s starting to sound really temperamental. Maybe Harry should be done with her.
PS… I’m also including photos of William and Harry during their trip to Graceland and at the Saturday wedding of Guy Pelly and Elizabeth Wilson. The wedding was surprisingly formal – William and Harry were both in tuxedos with tails. Harry looked exhausted (huh). They were ushers at the wedding.
Photos courtesy of Fame/Flynet.
This whole thing confuses me
I know. I’m going to assume that she fell very hard for him prior to really thinking about what she was getting herself into. What else explains the fact that she seems clueless about some very key details? Although this does contradict numerous early reports that they were “taking it slow.”
Her family and friends are giving spin – considering her friendship with the York girls, and her family’s extensive connections, she wasn’t a lamb led to the slaughter.
Exactly. She was friends with his cousins long before. She knew what she signed up for. This is either her trying to play Harry (and her family talking to the media) or Harry who has enough of her.
Agreed. I had the “buh” face the entire time I was reading.
Lol…buh…she said…he just…I thought…
Lovin every minute of it. Oh wait, sorry wrong spot.
That last photo is everything.
don’t make me bust out Superfreak
You know what hurts? You don’t care that you’re hurting me.
Oops, that was supposed to be under your sick reference to Superfreak
Aww, I’m sorry GoodNames.. I’ll change tunes just for you.
I’m frightened of what you might come up with next.
As long as she doesn’t start talking about fiefs in the night and get you thinking of a song you hated, still hate, and always will hate! Thank you, Snarkweek, for that one.
Tonight, tonight! Won’t be just any night!
There.
West Side Story chases away everything else!
Marriage is not for kids. I think both are very immature and totally unready for a commitment. He’s still picking up women at clubs and she’s a freeloader with no direction. If they do actually end up together it’ll be a winner by default situation, much like William and Kate.
We don’t know if she’s a freeloader or if she lacks direction. We don’t know enough about her to make either one of those assumptions. She must have been talented at her major and now has a job, just out of college. She sounds alright to me.
So she doesn’t want to change but she wants to be a member of the BRF? Huh? You kinda have to. It’s the Price of Power and all of that. I guess she learned the hard way this royal business is not the mythical land madam George and roses.
Kate was over doing the party girl/so over William act.
She doesn’t come from quite as much money as people think, according to the UK gossips.
Her mom sounds like a pill though, apparently upset that her daughter “tests” Harry too much.
I know! I read that line. Gave me “Mama Carole” vibes.
Katie Nicholl is full of shit, especially when it comes to Harry. I don’t trust anything that she says about them since she seems to make a career out of slandering Harry.
Exactly.
I just read one of her books. It’s SO full of stupid errors I just wanted to laugh. She’s not terribly credible if her book is that filled with easily-verifiable (but no one did)
mistakes.
Not sure how it even got published….
LS: i’ve never read any of her books, but i remember laughing so hard at her first Vanity Fair article about the royals . Her subsequent articles are equally hilarious.
so many basic errors.
i can understand if the lay person makes those errors, but not someone who is positioning themselves as an expert and getting paid for that expertise by a magazine thought to be a stickler for fact checking.
It’s really amazing that she’s positioned herself as the no 1 go-to journalist with ‘insider’ knowledge of WHK. The only ‘insider’ knowledge she has is on Kate and primarily before the wedding because the Middletons were feeding her information. Not so much afterwards. it’s all guesswork these days.
She did have access to Harry and her acquaintance with him made her subsequent royal associations possible. Big mistake, imo. She is trustworthy.
Snark,
There are easily hundreds of mistakes in this book — they are all over the place and include all three of them. Her book has more errors than any other I’ve seen. I wouldn’t say she was much of an expert based on these errors.
And as LAK said, these are very basic errors. Very easily remedied with some research and a good editor.
Which book?
LadyS
Lolol your comment to me was very confusing until I reread my comment. ‘she is trustworthy’ was supposed to have a ? after it to indicate sarcasm/irony but in haste I put a period. Ugh.
But expert? No way. I have been saying forever that Nicholl is untrustworthy to the nth degree and passive aggressive. I just think it is funny how we have Harry to thank for her but she is considered to be in the Middletons’ corner exclusively.
Blu,
Behind the Palace Walls. I was honestly stunned by all the mistakes.
Snark,
TOO funny! Illistrates the importance of punctuation — doesn’t it?
And the digs at Harry from Nicholl are in the above referenced article. I’m surprised no one commented on it. Cressida’s smart but basically Harry’s not? Harry (and Bea) has dyslexia and depending on the severity may struggle with reading. Certainly does not mean he’s stupid. IMHO that was one very nasty swipe at Harry.
Katie Nichol doesn’t know anything. I used to think she had some things right but she doesn’t. Katie is the one always writing in the daily fail that chelsy didn’t want the roal life and hated the british weather oh and after the royal wedding chelsy said that is not a life for her. well on you tube there is a interview with Katie where she is asked point blank if chelsy was really the one who ended it with harry and her response was “yes I think it was”. you think or you know..she doesn’t have a clue. the british press decided a long time ago that William was clean and harry was the dirty party boy. and now he cant get a girl and he is so desperate. ok im done with my little rant. I am not a Katie nicholl fan at all. Ingrid seward is on that list as well
i read her for entertainment value as opposed to accuracy.
LAK,
I honestly LOL at some of her mistakes — so it is entertaining. Also head banging too.
(Does anyone do research any more or use an editor?!????)
In regards to the “alternate theory” idea, ummm… I mean, I guess. However, I would think Harry is playing that role far too well. If I wasn’t genuinely mad before he left, I certainly would be when he returned.
Ok I find her so much more annoying that Kate. At least Kate was straightforward about what she wanted and despite how annoying it is sometimes, she does always support Will. I think Will is a whiny baby but after their last major breakup I think he smartened up a bit and started to treat Kate better, even if it did take him forever to finally propose I think that he did promise her that he would do it eventually and he did so good for them. I have no idea what is going on with Cressida though – I get the feeling that she is just using Harry. I don’t think she actually loves him but would definitely accept if he proposed. Also, in terms of the whole lack of work ethic thing we see from Will & Kate I don’t think it’s going to be any better with Harry & Cressida if they do get married. Cressida only got that “job” because she knew it would make her look good.
Oh, how I do wish this petty woman and her family, friends would just go away already and put a final end to this nonsensical campaign.
There are far too many stories that contradict one another. If people doubted she was needy- I would rethink that with all of the stories put out this past week (on her behalf while harry went to celebrate a friend’s wedding). I did not bother to keep count it was excessive drivel promoting her as the ideal “princess”.
I know everyone seems to have a different story. Whatever “strategy” she is using isn’t working for her at all.
I agree with a lot of what you say. Kate knew what she wanted and she got it. I actually believe she’s happy and wants to be good in her role.
I’ve never thought Cressida was mature enough to marry, or as into Harry as he was into her. And, can we please stop pretending that she was going to be this famous professional dancer if not for Harry? What are the chances of that happening? I just don’t buy it.
Why does she have to justify her life to anyone by becoming a famous professional dancer? Why isn’t dancing and perhaps taking on another job/jobs in the world of the performing arts enough? Nobody insinuates that a lawyer who isn’t Robert Kardashian or a computer person who isn’t Bill Gates or Steve Jobs has somehow failed at their career, and yet that’s always the angle with careers in the arts. It’s her life and her choices and she really doesn’t have to explain herself to anyone.
I agree – I find it hard to believe that she had any real hopes of becoming a professional dancer. And as old-fashioned as the palace can be I really doubt they would care if Harry’s girlfriend was a dancer. She would definitely have to quit if they got married but when that whole rumor started about her quitting dancing for Harry they hadn’t been together very long.
We Are All Made of Stars
She doesn’t have to explain herself to anyone. But she seems determined to explain herself to everyone.
@weareallmadeof stars – it’s more the implication that’s being made that Cressida made a huge sacrifice by giving up an incredibly promising career onstage to date Harry. Realistically, she’s already 25 and considering that she and Harry were only off-and-on, its more likely that she gave up ‘serious’ dance because performance either wasn’t her goal (after all, there’s a lot that she could want to do including teach, and she finished a challenging University program) or that she simply couldn’t hack it. It isn’t that her choice of dance is trivial, or only valid if one becomes famous, so much as the language that’s being used to describe her career is an awful lot of spin.
@Snarkweek:
Really? Can you even provide evidence of *one* occasion on which she has spoken about herself, or publicly refuted anything that has been said about her? All the speculation on her and this whole situation has been wildly, horribly wrong. I don’t believe that there is some sophisticated conspiratorial ground game going on here, not even for a second.
@wAAMOS
She doesn’t, and it is. It just seems to me that her “team” keeps implying that she had this huge career in dance waiting for her but she “sacrificed” it for Harry, and I don’t see any evidence of that.
GoodNamesAllTaken: Actually it was a journalist that put that line out, just as it was a journalist who put the line out about her ‘compassionate leave’. The latter is definitely not true as she was papped going to/from work during the days she was allegedly on ‘compassionate leave’ and we’ll never know the former for sure since every biog about her repeats it ad nauseum such that everyone believes it to be true.
No one, but her nearest and dearest, knows why she never took her dance career in the expected direction, but the speculation has now taken on a life of it’s own to degree that is quite amazing.
It’s no wonder she ran away. Ditto Chelsy. And when you see the level of vitriol, you begin to understand why Kate doesn’t read or pay attention to her press.
Stars,
I’m with you on this. I don’t think she’s had near as many leaks as what others assume.
GoodNames – you are reminding me of when Uncle Gary gave an interview saying how hard it was for Pippa, that right now she could be a six figure PR executive but ‘can’t’ because of her sister etc. Cressy’s family needs to be careful about saying they would have these amazing careers if it weren’t for the royal family. It doesn’t ring true, we all know how much work it takes to be at the top of any career.
LAK
Just wondering, how do you know she was going to work that day?
Memme: the photos were outside her office building. Light of the photos indicates different times of day though she’s in the same outfit for both.
Conclusion: she’s either going to work or she’s loitering outside her office building at different times of the day so she can foster impression that she’s working.
The conversation would seem more balanced, imo, if the pro Cressy spin/leaks weren’t almost identical every. Single. Time.
Should we be expected to believe that Cressy is in no way whatsoever responsible for her press just because she never sat down for an interview? Should we assume that all of the post break up stories are all fiction? I don’t feel that generous. Besides, even the stories designed to generate sympathy for her make her seem ridiculous.
Gotcha, LAK. Moving on.
Due to her “interesting” sense of style and maybe because she’s the “right” sort, I feel like people are so quick to think of Cressida as the “anti-Kate” (and she is in certain ways), but a lot things are being missed/overlooked which point to the contrary. I guess we can call it giving her the benefit of the doubt, but I’m skeptical.
I don’t understand the current trend here to label Cressy criticism as vitriol. Hardly, especially on CB. At best I would say it is some serious eyerolling. If you want vitriol check out some of the other threads or some of the more cringeworthy Kate/Carol/Pippa comments.
LAK
How do we know if Cressida bolted or got dumped or why? The story that has settled over time with much repetition when it comes to Chels is that she didn’t want the life. What she didn’t want was a playboy prince who was crazy about her but always, always put himself first. And Chels was with Harry for almost eight years. That is an almost Middletonesque amount of time to date a prince, no?
Dame: CB is very, very mild compared to what is said about Cressida on other internet boards. However, there are one or two people on here who are vitriolic. no point naming names as it’s self evident.
With regards Cressida being dumped or not, Katie Nicholls has written or been quoted every single article commenting on the break up since the break up. That immediately puts it in the fanfiction column of royal reporting to me.
With regards Chelsy, i agree that entire relationship and reasons why they broke up have been whitewashed, but it never occurred to me that they might marry. i tended to think it was a young love that ran it’s course.
@Dame – Exactly to my point right above your post! I don’t know what about Cressida is so special that people are being quick to remind everyone that it’s just gossip and should be taken with a grain of salt. I don’t take any of this to be the *absolute* truth and I certainly don’t feel like I know the woman in any regard. However, this is a gossip site in which we have fun with the articles and give thoughts, opinions, comments. That’s how I hope to come across in all of my posts no matter the subject, royalty, movie stars, singers, models, etc. If I haven’t, then I will work on that.
@LAK – In regards to other internet boards, I only keep up with Royal Dish here and there and they just come across as Harry Fangirls.
I love Harry, but he’s made very stupid, very silly mistakes that are a permanent stain for him (like the Nazi outfit). But W&K?! They can’t do anything right on RD. Damned if they do; damned if they don’t. Yes, you heard it here folks. Royal Dish is so bad, they make me sound like a Kate Sugar! 😛
Snark,
Those near identical comments are usually the press recycling and regurgitating old quotes but doing it in a way that kinda appears new. I never knew how prevalent it was now until I got on CB and started following a few celebs — but it seems to be par for the course in journalism today.
LAK,
Interesting that the press keeps promoting the ‘compassionate leave’ and she still hangs out just outside her job. That’s one dedicated employee! 😉 Usually when I’m on leave, I get as far away from my place of employment as I possibly can. (Must mean I’m a terrible employee then)
If anybody wants to go back and read what I actually said… Never mind, this is too exhausting. Never meant to be “vitriolic” in my remarks and don’t think I was…never said anything about compassionate leave….never said she was making any of the claims. Sorry I opened my mouth.
@GNAT – Don’t be sorry. I always enjoy your commentary, whether I agree or not. I’m always up for a lively debate. 🙂
Oh Dahling,
Your comments have not been vitriolic. And today’s criticism is mild compared to the first few days after the split. I am tentatively putting my toe back in the water because of it otherwise I’d steer clear again.
So go ahead Dahling, open your mouth and finish those three olives from your Dirty Martini, they are *positively* bothering me.
*drains Chocolate Martini*
Thank you, HH, that is very sweet. I didn’t mean to come of as quite so pouty. Am just too tired to address each comment specifically. I enjoy your comments, too!
LadySlippers, please don’t leave me again. I missed you!
Goodnames: my comment about journalists was in response to your comment about Cressida’s ‘sacrifice’, which expanded to other points.
As for the vitriol, I am hoping I was clear that it’s a general internet commentary on Cressida and not you specifically.
For the record, I don’t think that you are making vitriolic comments about Cressida nor do I think you’ve ever done so.
If I point out the people I think make these comments, we might start WWIII, so i’m taking a leaf out of Bluhare’s book and pleading the fifth and now exceptionally sorry that I said anything.
There are about 30 dancers in a professional ballet company …….without looking on google can any one name one of the non-principle performers in the Royal Ballet or the American Ballet. Same goes for all dance companies, jazz, hip-hop, tap, ballroom. Could you give me the names of the current or past World Champion ballroom dancers, world champion Salsa couple, one of the chorus dancers in a Broadway or Westend musical, even the name of one member of ‘Thunder Down Under’……etc etc…….
You can be near the top of your dance niche and no one in the general public would know you from a bar of soap. Without Harry in the picture she could very well have carved out a living for her self in dance without the need to be ‘Dame Margot Fontaine’.
Dancers dance because they love it not for fame or money, there is very little of either in the dance world and they have a relatively short shelf life and know it so they have to take all the opportunities when they are young, dance is hard work hours of exercise and traning every day and regular pain and injury.
At least she has a goal in life other than marrying up.
No, LAK, dear, I was not talking about you. My comment came out wrong. I am very tired today, please ignore my childish remark.
Couldn’t agree more, goodnames.
Professional ballerinas are already dancing for companies in their teens. Especially the ones with “promising” careers ahead of them. This is industry standard. By 25, a stage career would be halfway over.
To Flower: It’s incredibly difficult to balance working fulltime at a dance company and fitting time in for school. She’s famous. If she was really dancing on stage all this time, we would know where and for how long by now. Names that are well known are assets to ballet companies. It’d be publicized in some form. Anything to bring in more ticket buyers. Photos and even video are taken at rehearsals and events all the time. If nothing else instagram photos from other members in the company would be floating around. Why is there no proof of a budding career?
Occam’s razor. Don’t make it overly complicated. She likely isn’t talented enough for a stage job, which is why she opted for school instead. There’s no shame in it. Simply, it’s not the angle her people have made it out to be.
Gnatty
You were as expressive, good-natured and enjoyable today as you always are.
:O
Thank you, my friend.
” though at heart he is conservatively traditional”: Translation he can get falling down drunk, dress like a Nazi, fall out of nightclubs, play strip pool at Vegas hotels but she is expected to walk the straight and narrow, and likely to remain a virgin until married (well not really, but you know what I mean). Jerk of the highest order. I hope this isn’t true.
This. +1
several things:
The boys´s morning suits are standard attire for weddings in UK. If you look at all the pictures of the male British wedding guests, they are all wearing them as they do for every single wedding they´ve attended and been papped at. Exception Scottish weddings were Kilts may come into play.
A tux with tails is a completely different dress and event. That´s a white tie event, and the coat is completely different from a morning suit coat.
With regards these cressida articles post break-up, including the one in Vanity fair, all were written by Katie Nicholl which means they are fanfic and nothing more.
Cressida was papped going to work during the days Katie Nicholls alleges she was on compassionate leave.
Boys’ not boys’s urgh!!
+1
I don’t believe a word this lady writes about Cressy. She is not on leave she’s working. The story sounds contradictory because it’s written by someone who is just guessing. She has no source.
Just a quick clothes point – princes are not wearing tuxes but morning suits, which are the standard wedding dress in England amongst the upper classes.
Yes and apparently everyone changed into costumes for the reception. Sounds like fun
If this new story is true then I am solidifying my opinion that this special little snowflake is a foot stamper with crossed arms and an attitude. And even on the chance that it’s not true why have the last six or seven Cressida stories had such similar quotes, angles and sound bites?i am officially unwilling to believe that concerned friends and family are speaking without her knowledge/permission.
Again, assuming this story is true I have a lot of problems wit Cressy-poo’s story:
* it was a mistake to give her the benefit of the doubt about the reason she stopped pursuing dance. Allusions that she might be taking a desk job n order to leave lots of time for Harry were hotly debated and most people, myself included, decided she deserved the benefit of the doubt.pfffft.
* if Cressy chose her PR job because it allowed her the scheduling freedom to date Harry then why the hypocrisy of complaining that your individuality is being compromised? Why make make a monumental sacrifice (pursuing your lifelong dreams) with no problem but have a meltdown over inconsequential sacrifices (giving up Nikes as haute couture).
* Cressy values her privacy but continued leaks have put her break up on speakerphone, basically.
* Cressy is from the right kind of family, supposedly but her mom telling her to just pipe down and stop giving Harry the business sounds low rent to me.
* Who is threatened by the thought that their bf might get a little wild at a bachelor party? Worse, what girl is actually shocked because she wasn’t invited to a bachelor party? I think this might have been the first direct order/strong suggestion Harry ever actually stood his ground on. Not really a problem before because her ideas were always good/healthy ones for Harry. But her initial success probably gave her the impression that he was too smitten to question her.
* I don’t think there is a millionaire alive who would expect his working wage gf to purchase her own flight as a +1. Besides, mother Cressy would have sold the family silver had it been necessary.
Oddly enough, I still don’t believe she is angling for the prince. Worse, I believe she is waiting for him to realize his mistake and come crawling back with a cheap teddy bear wearing a Hard Rock Memphis t-shirt or a pound of Graceland jelly beans with all the black ones picked out. Pffffft.
How did you get bold lettering? I’m jealous!
Giving someone the benefit of the doubt isn’t a mistake, imo. Even when the person doesn’t live up to it.
LOL!! Dame Snarkweek!
I just could not find the energy to bother to start listing the stories. My hat is off to you- I could not agree more! XX
Me too HH! How did she get the bold lettering? Even my magic wand- as fabulous as it is can not do that for me!
Maybe Dame is into hoodoo, voodoo, or some kind of weird sh!te!!! (Just kidding Dame Snarkweek!)
If I told you I would have to get rid of you.
😉
Blu
Fair enough. Hindsight is 20/20.
Wow you must have reached your boiling point to write this. 🙂 Needless to say I agree.
I still don’t understand why everyone believed she *chose* to not pursue dance. As far as a career in the field she didn’t have a choice, her time was up. Injuries aside, if you haven’t started a career in dance by age 24, you were never going to. On top of that, no one who is truly passionate about dance enough to turn it into a career drops it for the *possibility* of a future with a man. Or better yet you give up your dream just to spend more time with him? This sort of life-altering decision is especially not in line with an ‘independent, free spirit who is career-oriented and all about making her own way in the world.’
+1,000,000!
You’ve listed quite afew reasons why she couldn’t follow through on the dance career. Why is it that the one where she pursues a man as set out by a speculating journalist is the one that everyone jumps on as the truth and not the others?
Because we weren’t given the other reasons. For nearly a year now, every story that’s mentioned her letting go of dance has given Harry as the reason why. Harry, in one way or another is the reason she chose not to pursue dance as a career.
I’m sorry, Cressida Bonas doesn’t have a public identity outside of being Prince Harry’s girlfriend, outside of what has been written about her in the press. So therefore, I don’t know enough about her, nor do I care enough really to assume anything else. My opinions of her are based on the information, whether true or false, given to me by press. Isn’t that the whole point of the comments section on these blogs? To speculate and share our thoughts on whatever article is placed in front of us? You assume one thing based on the info, I assume another. Who knows which one of us is right? Unless one of us happens to know her personally, in which case that is another conversation altogether.
Memme: i’m not questioning your right to have an opinion or to post your opinion. I simply don’t assume that everything the press prints is the truth or even speculatively truthful. I’m cynical that way.
And i am always surprised no one ever goes to other possibilities. In the absence of information, something that seems true will be repeated so often that the public will come to believe it is true.
Much of what you are reading with regards Harry and Cressida is media wanting another royal wedding and applying the successful Kate blue print to it eg job that works around the boyfriend, compassionate leave. All these are things Kate did. If next week or month they are re-united, we will be given the same reasons that Kate and William’s reunion was given.
LAK,
I wasn’t trying to say you are denying my right to have an opinion. My point was no matter what the story, no matter how likely it is to be true, we all take away from it what we choose.
I’m well aware the press like to make things up for the sake of a dollar. I don’t believe everything I read, I take it all with a grain of salt. That doesn’t mean there isn’t some truth in there somewhere. Where that truth lies is anyone’s guess. For me where there’s smoke, there’s fire. There’s too much consistency across the board in CressieGate for me to completely disregard the possibility there are insiders helping stir the pot. It’s the same kind of consistency there was with Kate Middleton pre-engagement.
That is one of the things I take away. You, I think, choose the opposite.
Snark,
Why are you even buying this story AT ALL? I think it’s crap because there are so many obvious contradictions. Not everything the press puts out there is true.
I think this story is choose your own adventure.
AM – best comment of the day!
😉 Thanks, Celeste.
Knowing Nicholl, I was careful to say ‘assumingg’ the story is true.
HH, Fairy Godmother
Okay, fine then,
Type in the following order with no spaces:
Less than symbol
Lower case b
Greater than symbol
The word you wish to embolden
Bibbity bobbity boo 🙂
Thank you! 😉
Much thanks Snarky!! Now if only I can remember it lol!
p.s. Nice catch phrase- “Bibbity bobbity boo” is what I say whenever I go to Bimini and someone asks where am I off to next!
Pitiful…footstomping, jelly beans and a teddy bear… Harry doesn’t need to put up with all that.
It boggles the mind that there are no attempts to correct these stories designed to defend Cressida but end up making her look insufferable. It’s like she has no real PR savvy people in her corner.
Snark,
I’ve said all along she don’t think she has PR help because the press has long swayed their stories depending on what will sell. NOT on the relevant facts on hand.
I do think she’s young and she and Harry have different goals. I think this break-up was probably a good thing for both as they can focus on what they want in their future relationships with other people.
She hangs out with those spoiled York girls who no doubt give her a lot of silly advice around the cauldron they’re all stirring on how to nail Harry down.
The Yorkies are far from spoilt.
Very true.
I’m not sure if this was sarcasm, but I think the only role of the York girls (mainly Princess Eugenie) was matchmaker. I think they’re wise enough to stay of the relationship beyond that.
I sadly don’t think they were smart enough to stay out of the relationship. When rumors of trouble in the relationship started making the rounds and they hadn’t been seen together for awhile, Cressida was spotted meeting with Princess Eugenie the same time Prince Harry was having dinner with Uncle Andy (who he rarely is ever spotted eating with). Could be the coincidence of a lifetime or the York family butting in because it’s to their benefit for Cressida to marry in.
My guess is it’s probably somewhere in the middle. I think Andrew, in particular, sees the advantage in having Harry marry Cressida, and is probably encouraging of the relationship, but I doubt he or the girls are giving actual relationship advice (outside of the natural conversations that Cressida and the girls have as friends).
@pleaseicu – Interesting. I didn’t hear about the lunch.
@AM – I agree with the statement that they aren’t giving advice outside of the conversations we all have with our friends.
Nicholl’s access to Harry has ultimately proven to be a trainwreck. She hasn’t gone all out Cressy and started bashing Harry but I think she is hedging her bets, as always.with friends like her, Harry doesn’t need enemies.
Is this the first time we’ve heard Cressida is an intellectual? She goes to book readings now?
And who has so many “updates” they require fifteen texts a day? Unless of course, they’re including bathroom breaks and meals.
Yeah I find that funny, because all I’ve ever seen her photographed doing is shopping or buying smoothies. (Or out with Harry.)
I get weird vibes from her entire clan.
Her mother seems a bit “Carole Middleton” with her whole “don’t argue with Harry and upset him” tripe. She and the Bransons seem to have been pushing an engagement from the very first time Harry and Cressida clapped eyes on each other. The Bransons are desperate for any link to the royals, and Lord knows both they and the Bonas’ have fought long and hard to establish a link, by pushing female members of the family onto them.
They’ve run out of women to throw at the Windsor boys.
As for the continued media pursuit of Cressida, I do feel this is her and her family’s attempt to keep Miss Bonas ‘relevant’ and in the news. I don’t see a reconciliation between her and PH, and her family probably already know this, so they’re fighting hard to keep her in the media’s glare, despite whatever rubbish stories have come out about CB not enjoying the limelight.
Bottom line, PH will likely move on and find someone more suitable for the royal lifestyle. He is pushing 30, and as much as he enjoys partying, he knows he doesn’t have much time left to “dilly dally”, as it were… So I highly doubt he is going to waste his time chasing some boho chick who doesn’t want to grow up. I’m certain they’re done.
But what about that gorgeous Gabriella actress sister Cressy has? Is she part of their clan or just a step-daughter from an ex-step-father? I bet Harry would go for her since she really is beautiful.
@Pleaseicu and @AM – you all are making me laugh so much at your comments about the York sisters and their father plotting this relationship out. I am reminded of The Lannistersbor Littlefinger from Game of Thrones.
She’s Isabella and got married to Richard Branson’s son last year. So off the market now.
TG, Gabriella Wilde is Cressida’s step sister. She adopted a stage name(Wilde) and seems determined to be recognized for her work credentials rather than for her “breeding”. She briefly adressed the Cressida connection once (and seemed rather annoyed by it), stating that the two girls are not close and not related, her father was once married to Cressida’s mother and that was it. They are not family(or at least she doesn’t consider Cressida “family”, but some of their other less job occupied siblings were all over this connection and making the most of it.)
The fact that she put all this effort into distancing herself from her aristocratic roots in order to be taken seriously as an actress, only to be pulled right back into it by her once-step-sister’s new found fame, must be hella upsetting for Gabriella.
TG,
I’ve never said/thought that the Yorks are plotting this relationship out. I do think Andrew is someone who appreciates connections (especially given that Charles is looking to downsize the working RF).
TG, glad you ignored my post. I can’t read!!
I find it difficult to get any real vibe from the York girls. I think it might have something to do with the fact they have shady parents=?
I wonder how influenced they are by Airmiles Andy and their financially embarrassing mother (not sure hoe else to characterize her).
Kath- I read the same comments Gabriella made to distance herself from Cressida. Very smart move to not want to be caught up or boxed in.
I am not sure I would id her as a step sister since she is in no way related to Cress. Gabriella is John and Vanessa AGC’s daughter. Cress is the daughter of Mary Gaye and Jeffrey Bonas. There is no blood or relation via marriage between Gabriella and Cressida. They do share Isabelle, Jacobi, and another woman (I think Octavia or Georgina) as step brother/sisters.
They were step siblings(not blood related half-siblings) for the time period one’s father and the other’s mother were married. They do share some half-siblings between them. There are just too many marriages and kids between those people, who do you call what? How do you keep track without a venn diagram to cheat at family gatherings? that must’ve been a confusing time for those kids growing up….
Sounds like this Gabriella would rather just stay out of it all. I don’t know how willing she’d be to get caught up in the royal circus, let alone with one of her step-sister’s cast-offs. Harry’s better off staying away from all of them, IMO.
As with most Royal stories, I don’t really believe any of this. I think the tabloids really wanted another wedding (good for business!) so they ran a bunch of stories about how great Cressida was and how they were super serious and about to get married. Then they broke up, and the tabloids know stories about that are good for business too, so they made up a bunch of stories about why the breakup might have happened. The fact that they contradict themselves a dozen times in a single article suggests this isn’t PR manipulation, it’s just tabloid reporters flinging crap at a wall and hoping some will stick.
Plausible theory.
exactly.
Great point. I think a different example is when the papers all ran with the “Is Kate pregnant?” story on the NZ/Oz tour. Even though they knew it would be debunked at a wine tasting later that day, they ran the headlines to move Sunday papers.
The Kate pregnancy thing is a great example. Pretty much from the wedding onwards we were treated to years of “she’s pregnant!” stories. It’s not because someone’s super secret PR strategy was to repeatedly leak the same story that would be proven false over and over. It’s because they want to sell papers and they knew that would.
i still can’t believe they ran with it.
Yeah I don’t get why people can’t believe that the tabloids were simply making it up. They don’t need the help of KP or Cressida’s friends to get people in a frenzy over another British royal wedding. They can make it up on their own and know that the Palace will not do much pushback against them(the Palace only pushes back against paparazzi pictures, not tabloid stories).
I maintain she wanted to marry him desperately and he didn’t like all the public pressure and probably from her to propose. All this crap that she didn’t want his life. Yeah okay sure. All those stories while they were dating about how he was ready to propose, how she was the one. Hmm I wonder who was putting that out?
Why is it people are quick to believe Katie Nicholl is/was in cahoots with the Middletons for years, yet when she writes about Cressida Bonas she’s full of shi%? Why is it so hard to believe she could have a source inside the Bonas clan? I’m not saying I think everything she writes is on the up and up (even though it all matches up with what we’ve been fed for months) I certainly don’t like the way she portrays Harry. I guess I don’t understand why the choice to believe Katie Nicholl is dependent on which woman’s ass she’s buttering? Because one has been made to look more desperate than the other? That’s fair and objective.
Exactly this. It seems that any Nicholl story is fiction when it goes against the grain but if she writes a quasi-positive Kate/Middleton story it is *obviously* because she is the Middleton’s mouthpiece. I, myself, think Nicholl is unstable and unreliable at times and probably spot on every now and then. But taking her stories with a grain of salt means one has to do it no matter the subject she’s writing about.
I frankly don’t understand why anyone believes anything the DM prints. Maybe they get it right sometimes, but I’m pretty sure that random chance would hit the right answer more often than they do. Love or hate any of their subjects, no one should be treating the DM as a serious source of information.
Because she’s known to work with the Middletons.
Because what she’s written about the royals has proved hokum despite her ‘close’ links to them. Seriously everything she’s written about the young royals was/is easily disproved whereas everything she’s written about the Middletons has been proven to be true or at the very least to touch upon the truth.
I think “proven to be true” depends on what you want to believe about the Middletons. At the end of the day, 90% of what’s reported never receives any kind of verification beyond other tabloids running the same rumours. Beyond which, Nicholl writes as many negative stories about the Middletons/Kate as she does positive ones. If she’s working with them, she’s not doing a very good job of it.
LAK
Esti pretty much said everything I wanted to. I’ll throw in my two cents anyway, even if it is redundant.
Your logic doesn’t work for me. You yourself more or less said the truth is a relative term when it comes to the tabloids, especially in the case of Nicholl. Basically what you’re saying is anytime Nicholl had an accurate story to tell it was about the Middletons. Which means whatever she had to say about William in regards to Kate would have to be the truth? Yet everything she writes about the young royals is a lie? And I should completely disregard anything she has to say about Cressida because it hasn’t been proven yet?
Until one of the Middletons or royals comes out to confirm or deny one of Nicholl’s stories, nothing is truly *proven* imo. Even if a few events she’s reported turn out to be true, it’s still a lot of speculation no matter which way you look at it. Including how deep ties run between Nicholl and the Middletons.
Memme: You are right to be skeptical because it is contradictory. However, it makes sense when you see the pattern of her writing.
When she writes about Kate specifically, what she writes can be verified or is generally verifiable. It almost always pans out.
The opposite is true when she writes about William even if William’s activities involve Kate.
Ditto Harry.
Where William and Harry are concerned, it’s guesswork on her part and often easily disproved.
As for her working with the Middletons, She’s been allowed to talk to Middleton sources for Kate’s official biography and she was papped exiting the Middleton home after which her articles changed tone and became positive PR pieces for the Middletons and Kate.
Now of course i’m not going to take what she writes about the Middletons as gospel because she’s pushing an agenda and that’s always clear as well in her articles.
LAK, I don’t see any difference in how verifiable the stories Nicholl writes about Kate vs. William and Harry are.
Here’s an example: the last thing I remember Nicholl writing about Kate (I don’t follow her work, so this is a few weeks old) was that Kate was borrowing a lot of tiaras and jewels from the Queen, including some of Diana’s jewels, to wear on the Australia tour. Other than the one not-very-bejeweled Australia-related broach that Kate borrowed from the Queen (which everyone knew she would wear, because that’s the same thing she did on the Canada tour) it turned out to be a load of nonsense. But it’s not the kind of nonsense it would make sense to be a Middleton PR plant, because a couple days after that story ran it was going to be clear that Kate wasn’t wearing a bunch of Royal jewels. That was just Nicholl making up something she knew would get page views (people love the idea of seeing all that sparkle!), not something that “touched on the truth” because it was about Kate and thus leaked by her family.
Esti: that article wasn’t about jewellery.
It’s pretty well known how the Queen works with her jewels and how involved she is with tours so entire article was hokum from the get go.
That was an article pushing an agenda.
It was pushing the idea that Kate is now bosom buddies with Queen which also meant that whatever Kate did had Queen’s approval. Burnishing Kate in light of all the negative press and creating anticipation for the actual tour and Kate in particular. These articles come out every so often, and usually when there has been a spate of negative press.
In terms of her writing style, she always writes in a way and with detail that’s click baity, so no surprise there.
Memme, Esti
I see no need to try to improve upon yoyr comments. Well said.
Yes, Dame. I concede. If I say anything further I’d be repeating myself, I think. Over & out.
Was the DM/Katie Nicoll the source about the air fare matter? I’m still scratching my head over the “fact” that Harry flew economy class because his bodyguards “had” to fly economy. Seriously? I’ve never heard of royals flying economy class – especially on a transatlantic flight they would want all the comfort they could get. However many bodyguards he needs (?) why wouldn’t he simply bring them into first class with him? With all of their millions, this is chump change.
the bodyguards are taxpayer funded so he doesn’t have to worry how their airfares are paid.
Diana flew coach more than once. It happens.
Harry and William have been spotted in economy/on low cost carriers multiple times. Down to earth, don’t you know.
Probably when they supposedly are paying for it, I imagine.
Spoken like a true PR!! Actually I have an easier time picturing Harry in coach than I do Kate. Nothing but the best for the duchess.
Would be my guess, hmmm.
Apparently William flew back to the UK in coach.
Here’s some pics to show it too.
http://entertainthis.usatoday.com/2014/05/05/prince-william-flies-coach-and-theres-proof/
Isn’t the pic of his brief flight to DFW from Memphis, not to the UK?
Hmmm,
Not 100% sure, I posted this last night with the info given but today looks as if it just might be the short hop you suggested.
If she was playing a game, she obviously didn’t realize who she was playing with. Harry doesn’t have to marry right now. George is here now. He can take his time and find someone he really loves and who shares his sense of philanthropy. He doesn’t have to settle. Saying all that, I still don’t think they were serious and all this marriage talk was nothing more than the media’s wet dream of another royal wedding.
Sounds like Cressy and the family Bonas were jonesing for the HRH and the perks that comes with royal access. And I also think the family doesn’t want one of their own being dismissed as another royal jump-off, so they go into Plan B. If the family is putting out these stories that Harry is practically drunk-texting Cressy, sending romantic emoticons to her to embarrass him into taking her back – bad move. This is the prince who wasn’t shy about showing his crown jewels to a hotel room full of random women in Vegas. They really think they can shame him to the altar? And force him into a sit down about the relationship? William most likely sowed his wild oats, but at least he was a little discreet. Say what you may about Kate, but she managed to seal the deal with William by going out with other men. The stories about Cressy crying in her latte over Harry makes her look like a mess; and I don’t think the Queen would want a woman like that joining The Firm.
Another immature drama queen. Too young for the job that goes along with the perks
Eh.
I can’t get worked up about Cressy. I really can’t. She isn’t a royal yet – maybe never – and I can’t get too excited about them until they start getting taxpayer travel and protection.
Maybe she won’t be around much longer, but I don’t think all the shouting will die down. There will be a new (probably) blonde, aristocrat or quasi aristocrat on Harry’s arm soon enough.
And it will all start again.
Agreed, Suze.
Quite true Suze.
It will be Cressida or another blonde , aristocrat, or similar from his aristocratic connected circle. The people who want Harry to choose something different are wasting their time ranting over his choice…they are in for just another ranting about the new lady who will be of similar vein. Harry likes a certain type and he will keep to what he is attracted to until he finds a lady who is willing to take on royal life and him.
He’s not going to choose a brunette, he’s not going more ethnic, it’s not going to happen.
I believe many of the moaners just don’t want Harry with a Blonde, woman from a wealthy, connected background. IMO Many of the moaners want him to go more ethnic, as if he needs to prove something to them.
imo,Harry should stick with what he wants, if its the Chelsy’s, Cressida’s, or the next connected blonde, then so be it. It’s his choice.
No the ‘moaners’ are not going for that.
The ‘moaners’ don’t want him to go ethnic (whatever that means)
The ‘moaners’ are not just buying or believing the constant – independent, brilliant, beautiful, individual, not at all like Kate,- narrative we’ve been fed from the Cressy Crew, her tabloid allies and the rest of her fans from Day 1
Everybody has a type. Cressida, for all her supposed faults, also has a lot in common with Harry’s mother (blonde, loves dance, works with kids, divorced parents, comes from a large family, etc). Not an expert, but there is probably some kind of profile here.
Well, Jegede, you may not have to hear things you don’t like much longer. This could be it for them and the Cressida stories, good or bad, could well fade away.
That is, until the next blonde comes along and whatever Kate versus Blonde Duchess narrative starts up again.
Because all that I take away from the Cress/Harry romance is that Harry has a type – blond, leggy, rich and connected – and that Harry likes drama with his women.
My god, Suze, I’m almost Harry’s type. I have legs and I like drama!
Blu – I so want this to happen. Except I would feel bad for Mr. Blu. So maybe not!
However, in our fantasy world you are Harry’s next girl.
I have legs, am blonde, am fantastic with kids, and also very caring. And no LordSlippers to contend with. Alas, I’m also very boring and hate drama.
Shoot.
😉
There goes my chance.
*shuffles off*
Aw, LS. We can gin up some drama between you and Harry if it will help.
Do you own any scrunchies or baggy sweats? You will have to put those on first.
I DO THE DRAMA!! EMEMEMEMEMEME!!!!
And I’m wearing baggy sweats right now.
How ’bout yoga pants??? And some holey sweatshirts?
Blu, we’ll split duties. I’ll totally let you have the drama part. I just havta have the tumble in the hay part. 😜
Hellz to the no, LS. I can’t believe you even gave that one a shot. NO NO NO.
And I was there first. No sharesies.
Oh Blusie dear,
Youz married. So no rollin’ in da hay wif odder boyz. Nope. Nope. Nope.
😉
I feel Katie Nicholl and some of the press just does cut and paste from old Kate articles, imo.
Cress did go to work, there was no compassionate leave, it’s not even true.
It’s just rehashing the Kate articles and all the press runs with whatever gets written. IMO
The press does this a lot with the Royal Family. Certain ‘stories’ sell well, why mess with a proven formula?
The press lies to sell their newspaper PERIOD.
All that BS about kate’s family is mostly made up because she comes from so called commoners…….
All this hoopla about cressida halfsister isabella and her so called romance and/or she let him down all lies made up by the press
In her own words there was never anything between william and her :
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/you/article-509008/The-reluctant-It-girl-Virgin-boyfriend-Isabella-Calthorpe-acting-ancestry–affairs-heart.html
All this talk about jecca and william and their so called romance and that she is the one that got away (or isabella) all BS again made up to sell papers. They are friends and friends hang out together. William denied back in 2002 that they were ever romantically linked. He send out a press release at st james palace at the time and he was by then allready together with kate.
Im not saying that everything the press says or that they have everything wrong but i think most of it is.
i have given examples of william and kate but the same goes for harry and cressida.
Oh, I don’t know. Maybe William LOOKED WITH LUST at Isabella once.
He wouldn’t be the first man to do so.
I do think the “attempted romance” between these two was overblown. And I believe that William and Jecca are lifelong friends, nothing more.
And none of it matters in reality. He eventually chose to marry Kate, and they are still married.
Both you ladies are spot on.
I agree with the majority of your statements, but Kate’s family members, including Uncle Gary, have generated “news” stories on their own. They can’t blame or credit the press entirely for their public image.
I am rooting for a reconciliation with Chelsea Davy. The BRF needs a hot mess!
Gosh, isn’t the Dynamic Duo of Hot Messness themselves, better known as the Duke and Duchess of York, enough for the BRF?!?
Have mercy woman! 😉