While Marvel still recovers from the clusterwhoops surrounding the Ant-Man project, there’s some new information about the long-gestating Doctor Strange film. Marvel is usually pretty organized, and they have all of these phases and charts and such to show when they want to make individual superhero films, so I guess Doctor Strange is going to be one of the next phases. The rumors have been swirling for a while – more than a year, at least. Benedict Cumberbatch was an early favorite, but then he seemed to get pushed aside for Johnny “Scarves A Lot” Depp. Then Jon Hamm was in the mix too. I think Scarfy Depp fell from grace once Marvel realized A) how expensive he would be and B) people don’t care that much about Scarfy nowadays. So, Marvel is rebooting their search. And it’s a bloke-ish/posh search.
Here’s some hot superhero dish to take into the weekend. There are reports tonight that Peyton Reed and David Wain are being considered for Ant-Man, but man, we are progressing down the comedy director food chain, and this is starting to feel stale. So how about Doctor Strange?
Marvel is putting together its cast list, and I’m hearing that Tom Hardy and Benedict Cumberbatch are on it. While Marvel has teased this property with mentions in films including Captain America: The Winter Soldier, the film solidified and felt urgent when Scott Derrickson tweeted this week that he will direct the script by Thomas Dean Donnelly and Joshua Oppenheimer.
The character has been around since the early 1960s, during that crazy period where just about all the spandex-clad heroes in all the Hollywood blockbusters were hatched at Marvel Comics headquarters (that might be a movie). Stan Lee and Steve Ditko created the character in 1963 as a neurosurgeon who serves as the Sorcerer Supreme, protecting Earth against magical and mystical threats with powers of sorcery, mysticism, and martial arts. Marvel’s Kevin Feige is producing.
These two guys aren’t the only ones in the mix, but let’s face it, they are both poised to become major stars. Hardy, by way of playing Bane in The Dark Knight Rises, is closer… Both of them have been lining up movies left and right, so scheduling might be an issue. We’ll see who Marvel ultimately lands, but it’s hard to go wrong either way here if one of these guys get the job.
Just on looks alone, I’ve always thought Benedict would make an interesting Doctor Strange. The issue might be facial hair? Doctor Strange has a thick goatee, and Benedict… well, his beard is super-wispy. Tom Hardy can grow a beard, but it comes in sort of patchy and ginger. Quite honestly though, I would be happy to see either actor join the Marvel team. Both men are excellent choices. It sounds like Marvel is more into Hardy, but I think the fans would probably be more into Cumby. Tom and Benedict are friends too – they’ve worked together a few times and they share a trainer (Peanut was Tom’s trainer first, but Tom recommended him to Benedict).
Photos courtesy of WENN, archive photo from ‘Stuart: A Life Backwards’.
Well, between these two, I think the better pick would be Cumberbatch.
But I’d rather see Viggo Mortensen (my #1 choice), Mads Mikkelsen (obvious choice, but perfect nonetheless) or Joaquin Phoenix (if they’d go for someone younger).
I don’t know the character, but I think Hardy’s more likely to get it. Cumberbatch just isn’t big enough. He can’t hold a movie yet. I’m sure it’ll all depend on how well Mad Max does at the box office. I guess if the Imitation Game lives up to its hype, he might be in the running, but I can’t see them taking a chance on someone who hasn’t proven himself a leading man.
Still, it’s worrying to hear that Cumby might be taking a job. How will the international social scene survive once he’s back at work? Major sports events don’t watch themselves, you know. (*slaps Tahiti Tom on the nose with a rolled up newspaper as he bounces up and down, squeaking about going to Wimbledon*)
Oh, and if anyone wants to talk about what a great movie Stuart: A Life Backwards is, I’m completely game to hijack this convo.
Stuart: A Life Backwards sounds amazing!
I loved that movie.
Are we ok to discuss the tennis pics in this thread? All the comments on the tennis got wiped off the previous thread over the weekend.
Tahiti Tom will cry and ruin his spray tan if Cumby takes this. This is a truly major role. They found a good director. It just remains to be seen how the script is handled– it needs a top writer, not the committee that did Thor 2, since so much of the storyline needs updating.
Jessi, which tennis pics? I missed that completely.
I didn’t realize there were tennis pics. He looks good in them.
From the French Open.
@ sighs.
It’s because he bought new clothes. And tipped his fancy new hat at a jaunty angle.
@T.Fanty:
Re: Hardy and Mad Max: I’ve always thought that having one actor play lead roles in two different franchises simultaneously is somewhat awkward. What if filming schedules, release dates and general perceptions of the characters get too mixed up? However, I have no idea whether Mad Max producers are planning any sequels for the nearest future, so it might still work out for Hardy, I guess.
Huh. I missed all the new tennis pics apparently. I was watching the finals and actually wondering if he was there. Was SHE with him????
😉
Oops, missed all tennis pics messages! It must also be a conspiracy aimed at… errrr….. concealing Cumby’s new hat?
@Kate2:
It’s Cumby at French Open, not You-Know-Who 😀
Errrrr, who was at Wimbledon? Freebie Crazy Cumby or Dancing Bear Tommy? I’m confused…
EDIT: got it (after reading Intro Outro’s own editing).
Hahaha. The “she” at the French open, so far as the internet seems to know, is Sophie Hunter who is a previous co-star from Burlesque Fairy Tales. According to IMDB she lived/studied in Paris (or maybe still does?) and she was at Hay last week as well.
Speculate away 😀 They both look bored, IMO.
They both look so not arsed for a tennis final.
He has a sassy purple Lacoste fan though, so that was good for a laugh.
Intro Outro says:
June 9, 2014 at 11:09 am
@Kate2:
It’s Cumby at French Open, not You-Know-Who 😀
AH, thank you for clearing that up. I was mistaken. CARRY ON WITH THE CUMBERNATOR!! LOL
😀
Not surprised he’s at the French Open. Moffat and Co. are in France too, they’re doing something for Sherlock at the Monte Carlo Festival.
But is ‘she’ the same pretty brunette he was spotted arguing with at the theatre just before Hay festival, as per the Twitter of a girl who saw them?
@Kate2:
“CARRY ON WITH THE CUMBERNATOR!! LOL”
*looks at the calendar, sees that it’s 6 more days until June 15, drums fingers impatiently*
Lol… pretty confusing with all the “she”‘s around…
The French Open girl really seems to be Sophie Hunter. Don’t know her, but I like her look, a bit French (to me she looks like a lovechild between Sophie Marceau and Charlotte Gainsbourg)
@Intro Outro why are you so anxious for the 15th?? Hm hum…
@T.Fanty, I honestly, don’t see Cumby doing Dr Strange, plus the script would have to be really amazing…
Lately Comic Book movies have been slightly disappointing… what’s with thw writers??? Lack of imagination?
@TFanty, now, now, don’t you realize that attending the French Open is the perfect way to prepare to play the part of former Massachusetts Senate President Billy Bulger? Why, I am sure those French Open stands were just full of people with the proper South Boston accent and knowledge of the workings of the Massachusetts legislature, Boston politics, and notorious mob siblings!
I’d far rather talk about Stuart than what the latest Marvel business might be. Let’s shout Stuart from the rooftops and pretend Marvel doesn’t exist. Even for the bloke, I will not be hoofing it to a cinema to see half a dozen lines of dialogue that escaped from the plot of another film, one WITH a plot that is, and a load of CGI.
*worries about being told off by Evelet*
(Wrong place, sorry).
Indeed, as a HUGE Marvel fan I’m not happy with your comment.
*makes a face Sixer REALLY doesn’t want to see*
*pretending Eve isn’t there, but giving Sixer a look that indicates that if she gets Shanky, I’m off*
Did you see Locke yet?
If you can get them to put some decent dialogue (or any dialogue really) in their films, I will like them too, Eve! *ducks*
Fanty: yes and loved it. Ileft you a Penny Dreadful note on the SoccerAid thread also.
Oh you did? Heading over to look, now.
Locke is in my local movie theatre, but I think I’ll wait for it to come on demand. It’s not worth the babysitter. I adored Stuart – it’s a great showcase for Hardy. It’s by far more interesting than any of the tortured thug (sorry, bloke) crap that he went on to play in American movies.
*shakes fist at Sixer*
*smooches Eve*
Fanty, Lindy – Rik Mayall has died. Sad face.
My sister just told me. Gutted. I say we now hijack and offer a retrospective of this great man. I’ll be back.
And here I am. With bonus Sir Cliff, as it’s tennis season:
http://youtu.be/gGOU0o9K89g
I’ll go way back:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMQNH9G5nbI
I’ve never seen that! This is still my favorite:
http://youtu.be/oMFY8g56ZCg
The first time I got drunk was when I saw his stand up show. In Basildon. I had two Bacardi and cokes, and threw up all over my sister’s ford fiesta.
Gutted.
Not a famous clip but just sums him up to me
http://youtu.be/oT1cUTJE1Ac
Aww. I’ve come over all maudlin now. I really have.
Post more. I’ll be back later.
That’s brilliant.
I’m going with a classic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKfbSHW9uGA
I should have named my puppy Lord Flashheart. The next one, for sure.
Annnd, a little bit of topicality (for me, because I’m researching New Labour right now):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skY7dgi43kY
http://youtu.be/mpIi34fCu1w
Cobwebs…
He died today… Ryk Mayall….
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/comedy/comedy-news/10887182/Rik-Mayall-dies-aged-56.html
Edit: oh you were commenting on it… 🙁
Ive spent the last 30 minutes watching these clips
http://youtu.be/V0yM4BKqHv4
Re: Rik Mayall, such sad, sad news. Has there been any update on the cause of death?
Nope nothing. His wife said it could have been a fit or a heart attack. Might know more today but it looks like something just really tragic and sudden. He was photographed walking his dog yesterday 🙁
Mads for the win!!!!
OMG, Mads would be perfect!!!
MY BODY IS READY
Umm, no. And no, and no, and hells to the no, with regard to Jared Leto. Also, Marvel doesn’t need to go “young” to get someone who has talent, but isn’t a big name yet. After all, Stephen Strange had his accident in his mid-thirties, but it is not known how long he spent searching for a cure, nor how long he spent with the Ancient One. And looks-wise (which Marvel doesn’t really shy away from) Oded Fehr or Alexander Siddig would be perfect.
As great as I think he would be, others are right he’s not mainstream enough. He’s less known than Hardy or Cumberbatch and I remember doing epic eye rolls when Hannibal first came out and there were reports of people in some parts of the US complaining they couldn’t understand him.
It’s called an accent people, and Hannibal was originally Lithuanian so get over it.
I REALLY wish Hannibal got more love and attention. It’s a fantastic show.
No one else I know watches it.
I watch it, Lindy. And I don’t usually watch non-domestic procedural-type things. I like the overall arc, love the stylishness, love Mads. Oh, and I love the colour-blind casting for Jack Crawford. Sometimes it disappears up its own backside with the imaginary sequences but overall, I think it’s genuinely moving TV forward.
@DahliaDee, OMG, Oded Fehr! Yes!
I thought Mads was definitely in the running for the part? I am not usually a fan of the superhero genre, but I would see the film in a heartbeat if Mads was involved!! 🙂
Jared Leto is also in the running.
http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/555094/20140608/dr-stephen-strange-jared-leto.htm
If Leto becomes Stephen Strange, I will be PISSED!
God no. His name is being thrown around thanks to the Oscar. I’m sure his name will be attached to anything high profile.
Re Sophie Hunter: A lot of folks were thinking she looked like the director for Hamlet, Lyndsey Turner, but yeah it really seems to be Sophie Hunter. And since the Fail hasn’t jumped all over it, I’m saying nada between them. And lol the boredom in those pics is epic. Though I did lol a bit at the arrival pics where he has on a jacket (it’s not exactly cool in Paris right now, being June and all) and he casually shoves his hands in his pockets to reveal the Lacoste emblem.
I’m sure it has nothing to do with Lacoste. I’m sure it’s just him being the sports enthusiast that he is.
Eeeew. I just had a thought. Do you think Lacoste pays him, and then he invites a female friend, working on the principle that if he generates a bit of gossip by doing so, and gets into the Fail, he’ll get more promotional invites?
@ T.Fanty:
Sounds plausible to me.
Well, if it’s Sophie Hunter then she lives in Paris and he likely just invited her along or she was going and they sat together. Seriously–zip chemistry other than “friends at an event.” Someone on tumblr pointed out that you can see the crease in his shirt still from it being folded so I’m kind of on the “endorsement” train for that outfit. I’m sure he went to the game for funsies but it was also a “hey, you’re coming? Great! Want to sit in our special seats, come to the special events and oh if you wear this shirt with our visible logo on it, you’ll get some perks”. He doesn’t talk about Lacoste or anything so the perks would likely be the VIP seats, etc.
Only works if he picks a female friend who will generate buzz, and an actress he’s worked with before and is his age doesn’t fit the bill tbh. That’s why the Fail didn’t pick it up. Plus Hunter lives there, so it’s not even a mystery at that angle. You all give him too much credit tbh.
…if Lacoste is his meal ticket there, why didn’t they make sure his shirt was ironed? You can see the crease from being folded on a table still, it’s cracking me up LOL
Edited b/c MissMary above is probably right in it being last minute.
@T Fanty—sorry if I sound rude but you really jumped the shark with that comment. You really think he would go to such low levels for publicity either for him or the brand. If indeed he brought her to generate gossip then he should have acted more lovey dovey with her. I mean I get it you guys aren’t super fans of him and love throwing snark but this comment just made me really uncomfortable because it doesn’t even look like you are joking about it.
In some pics she looks like she’s in conversation with either the people sat in front or behind them. Wonder if she had family or friends along since we think she lives in Paris. If I could afford to, in that scenario I’d take my parents along, etc.
@ Duri:
Actually, you’re wrong. We are, in fact, super fans…super fans of his acting.
We just don’t appreciate desperation — especially when it comes from an actor who doesn’t need that: he’s talented, his fame could rely solely on the roles he plays so well, not on how many f*cking events (unrelated to his chosen profession) he’ll attend in order to be seen.
@Eve well great if you guys are his fan but is it necessary to insinuate something that has no proof whatsoever because you know how people are, they see a comment on one site and it will spread to other sites easily.
I am just saying why throw mud at him when you aren’t sure about it??? Once you have an evidence that supports your thesis then please go ahead.
I feel left out, not having come up with a fan-virus of a thesis (or, indeed, a cunningly disguised mickey take). Um… Ben Sherman paid him because they knew the reek of desperation would put everyone right off Lacoste. Benny’s PR is so clever it’s meta! Watch out for the photobomb in theatres soon!
@ Duri:
The fact he’s been attending events right and left, events that have NOTHING do with acting, is evidence enough to me. The man is desperate for attention — he doesn’t look like someone who doesn’t want to be photographed. On the contrary, he seems pretty content in having his picture taken at said events. And, as my reply to T.Fanty CLEARLY stated, her theory sounded plausible to me, not that I knew that for sure.
But, please, go ahead and keep thinking Cumberbatch is above the PR game. He *has* to be different than everybody else in Hollywood, of course he has.
P.S.: If you haven’t noticed yet, CB is a gossip site, not Tumblr — everybody is more than welcome to speculate (both positively and/or negatively) as much as they want here.
First of all I never said he is above PR game,he attends all these events to get clicked. You are totally being brash for no reason, just read what T Fanty wrote, she is saying he brought this girl to get clicked and spread gossip. I replied adequately to that saying he attends these events for publicity but no way do I see him bringing her to get some gossip going about them.
If he was do desperate for fame by using his relationship, then why not bring a chick who is more famous and known. I mean who is this girl? Does anyone care about her??? That’s why I replied to her regarding it.
So stop putting words in my mouth that I treat him like some god and don’t you even dare put me in the same category as those tumblr girls, I know where I belong.
Btw I never asked you to reply to me if you had such a problem with me, my intial reply was to T Fanty not you.
@ Sixer:
LOL…*clears throat*…hmmm, NO, you’re not supposed to make me laugh. Not after what you said about my beloved Marvel.
You’re grounded, missy.
@ Duri:
Apparently, you haven’t noticed this is, albeit moderated, a free forum, therefore people are entitled to reply to whomever they want. People will reply to you whether you like or not, whether you asked for it or not. Don’t want anyone interacting with you in a public forum? Don’t post anything then.
And since my comment, as a direct reply to T. Fanty, agreed with her theory, I have every reason to believe your comment was direct at me as well.
By the way, you used the expression “you guys” in yoyr comment….here, let me refresh your memory: “I mean I get it you guys aren’t super fans of him and love throwing snark (…)”. Don’t you dare come now and say you were not referring to me as well. You were and you know that. Own it.
Duri – people are just messing about and being silly. Find a pinch of salt and utilise it, you know? No need to get hot and bothered. I have some BRILLIANT theses on Benny the Famemonger and even you will laugh once I get going. Happily or unhappily, depending on how you view irreverence of Very Important Actors, I have to go and do motherly things for a bit, however, so I’ll have to keep you on tenterhooks.
Evelet: is that grounded as in sent to my room or grounded as in not bonkers or grounded as in you just threw yourself at me (AGAIN) and I fell over?
Just another gig for Benedict. And why the hell not get some free clothes, I say.
https://twitter.com/LACOSTE/status/476050761210949632/photo/1
Seems plausible that B’s PR team is advising he be seen with more women instead of just male friends so often. Sophie is just another guest to appease his team, possibly.
@ Sixer:
The former. Although the latter sounds more interesting.
Thanks for pointing it out, I didn’t even realize I wrote that but no point in defending as you have made up your mind about me being a little teenager who hails Cumberbatch above everyone else. So forget it. I never said you cannot reply to me, all I said was why bother replying to me since I am such a “super fan” and probably in your head beneath your level to have a dignified discussion rather replying to me rudely and then getting support from your friend like Sixer to gang up on one person. Is T Fanty going to join too??
I own up to stuff that I say intentionally not by a mistake so please don’t worry about that.
@Sixer thanks for the advice. I shall do that in future. I am not a fan of fights but I am giving it back to Eve because despite me replying politely, she replied to me in a rude tone and then went on to be judgemental in regards of labelling me as a tumblr fan girl.
*goes off to be motherly while hoping that my finely honed Mother Theresa/bring-peace-to-the-world-through-humour act has more success with the Sixlets than it does on internet gossip sites*
*falls over with come hither expression waiting for Eve’s best throw*
@ Duri:
Oh, please, grow up a bit, will you? T. Fanty posted a snarky comment, my reply (to her) came right after, then you posted your reply addressing her. I repeat: it was intended at a reply to both of us but you keep repeating that I already have something against you as a way to discredit my comments/opinion.
So you’re not a Tumblrite? Great! How about stop acting like one of them then?
By the way, nice try at shaming me into apologizing for something I didn’t do (re: being mean to you). I wasn’t. I was being objective, something you clearly are unable to be. So no, I’m not sorry for voicing my opinion.
EDIT: Just saw your dig at Sixer. How incredibly unfair and childish of you. You must have reading comprehension issues since she wasn’t attacking anyone but merely trying to lighten up the discussion. And I have yet to see a thread where Sixer is being rude or “ganging up against” anyone here on CB. Go ahead and call me a bitch — I’l take that and own it with pleasure, but don’t you dare say anything bad about her.
*returning late to the party, straightening my outfit and not telling you all what/whom I’ve been doing*
I just want to say, that for the record, Eve is the eldest of village elders here, and generally I concur with her every point. If Cumby doesn’t want gossip about his private life, then he shouldn’t make himself into a mannequin, a veritable living doll (*sad wink*). Morever, he’s a big boy, and I suspect can cope with a few CB-flavored side-eyes (magnificent as we generally are).
People interest me when they are complex, flawed, and human. Unlike many people who have recently flocked to this site, I don’t need a man to be a caricature of a disney prince to find him doable, and I reserve my right to gossip, speculate, make fun, and amuse myself as I see fit. So, pass the water-skis, crank up the Happy Days, and bring on jaws.
Crap. Now I’ve just realized that I’ve been summoned by a child looking for a slap fight. I generally don’t like to descend to those. Sixer, I’ll see you over at Penny Dreadful, and Eve, expect my Robocock e-mail, later.
@Eve oh yea insinuate more wrong stuff, that comment about Sixer being with you was before I saw her comment about joking. That earlier comment came just by her response mocking the term “thesis” I used . After she wrote that second comment, I have directed another comment to her. So yea again stop making assumptions about me.
Great so after being rude and judgemental, you are accusing me of being illiterate who cannot read. Anything else? maybe you can comment over my looks adding to such marvellous qualities you have labelled me with already.
Oh jolly T Fanty finally joined in to accuse me of being a child. Wow I have never got so many judgements being passed about me. Is this how you guys treat others when they speak against the “so called royal trifecta” that thinks they own CB
*whispers*
There’s only one “l” in marvelous.
@ Duri:
Child, I literally have nothing else to say to you anymore.
You see, I like making sense (something I now firmly believe you only know in theory — if that much). And I don’t really care what you look like — or what anyone else on this thread looks like. That is, AGAIN, you being childish and misinterpreting everything I wrote so far.
No one here — well, except the writers of the site — thinks they own anything. But I’ll be damned if I let Tumblrites (or their likeness) dictate what I should or should not post about Benedict Cumberbatch.
Next time I spot you on a thread, I’ll make sure to dress appropriately to play in your sandbox.
Ha ha ha thanks but you got the meaning behind it.
Now, now, you’re acting hysterically. And making even less sense.
I repeat: don’t want to be called a child, stop acting like one (especially because I don’t have a pacifier here with me to give you).
Oh god can you please stop it??? That comment was for T Fanty for catching my mistake in spelling jeez I didn’t know you’ll be posting something at the same time. Now you see what you did, you are literally calling me mental when I didn’t even say a single word to you. Why don’t you use your brain first and then think about accusing me of being hysterical
@ Duri:
My mistake then. But how about addking the “@” next time you reply to anyone with your usual wit? You know, to avoid any confusion.
And no, I DID NOT call you mental…just your comment with a laughter (and no punctuation), right after my comment, made no sense whatsoever (just like most of your remarks on this particular thread).
@T. Fanty dear
* whispering*
There are two ll in marvellous (Br E).. sweetie… lol (just checked Cambridge Dictionary)
Love you…
@ Nighty:
*whispering, too*
Actually, there are two possible spellings for “marvelous”:
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/marvelous
Oh God, long thread… *tired from climbing to reply…*
*whispering…..why are we whispering???*
@T.Fanty @Eve, I know – marvellous – BrE
marvelous – AmE
That’s why I wrote BrE in front of it…
marvellous UK , US marvelous /mɑ.v ə l.əs/ /mɑr-/ adjective
extremely good
He’s done a marvellous job of the decorating.
It took me ages to get it right, but it was a marvellous feeling when I did.
It’s marvellous how everyone’s tried to help.
He was a truly marvellous storyteller.
We’ve achieved some marvellous results with this new drug.
marvellously , US marvelously /mɑ.v ə l.ə.sli/ /mɑr-/ adverb
We’ve had a few arguments over the years, but in general we get on marvellously.
@ Nighty:
*still whispering because it’s fun that way*
Oh, I see…
*snickering in whisper*
Dagnabbit. I knew I should have gone with one of the other writing errors!
I feel it is incumbent on me to make the ultimate sacrifice and demonstrate that Eve is an equal opportunities shanker…
ANYONE WHO DOESN’T LOVE JOSE MOURINHO SMELLS OF CAT’S PEE!
There. Have at me, my bella. Sorry: I couldn’t resist.
@Sixer, be right back, going to have a shower to wash away the stinch of cat’s pee….
😛
(and I’m Portuguese…lol….)
*Bless you my dear… :D*
@T.fanty.. lol.. you should have… 😀
@ Sixer:
Well, that didn’t count because I know that deep down you agree with me: he’s gross and an asshole and anyone who has the hots for him should be ashamed — did you hear me:? ASHAMED — of that.
And right now, I worry about one thing and one thing only: what T.Fanty will think of my beloved RoboCock. She’s the only one with the power to break (or not) my heart.
Good God girls, don’t get this thread closed like the last one on He-Who-Shall-Not-Be-Named. This is all good and fun, the gossip.
And honestly, the Lacoste brand is a little too 1980s. He should try for a modern brand that doesn’t require boat shoes and scarves.
Ben is a guy, he has no fashion style whatsoever… Guess I’ll have to apply to be his stylist / fashion adviser.. Going to rewrite my CV to send it to him, …
@general audience, pouring an icy glass of refreshing iced tea and donning a breast plate to protect my lady bits as I laugh gleefully at someone calling others brash, rude and not polite when her very first post on these boards admonished another poster for being mean to her precious and whose second post on these boards threatened to cut off my lady bits, in a rather vulgar manner, and freeze them because I dared to defend that poster and was less than deferential to her precious.
@TFanty, is there video of your shark jump? I am sure you performed it with great style, grace, and aplomb and left even Jaws cheering wildly for you.
@Duri, to paraphrase Tony Stark, there is no throne here. There is no prize for defending BC against all comers, including his other fans yet you try to start a fight on every BC thread. If you are so sensitive that you cannot bear to see his choices or behavior or performances questioned, I would advise you to steer clear of Boston media for the next year or so. The general reaction to his casting as Billy Bulger is one of puzzlement. If he fails to get the nuances of the character, a rather well known and powerful man in these parts, the negative reaction and complaints of miscasting and bad performance will make you cry. He will not pick up those nuances of character and he definitely won’t pick up the accent hanging out in France.
Nighty sits down comfortably, pours herself some nice hot Andalusia tea and waits silently and paciently for the show to continue….
* enjoying the tea…humm….really good*
Has anyone actually read the Commenting Guidelines on CB? If you scroll down to the very end of any post, you can find them. For anyone coming here and seeing the above exchange, it’s hardly a welcoming place is it? Especially for anyone from Tumblr.
And in regards to that argument that is trotted out sometimes about this place being called Celebitchy, it doesn’t mean any of us actually have to BE one.
Disagreements and differences of opinion have become nasty here so quickly lately. Maybe it’s because the written word doesn’t always come across as we mean it to.
I’ve been here long enough to notice that regular posters tend to comment mainly to other regular commenters they agree with and there’s nothing wrong with that but it’s almost becoming clique-ish or something.
After all, these are just idiotic celebrities that we don’t know and never will. Are they really worth fighting about?
Gives @Janeite a kiss on the cheek… Hi sweetie, welcome voice of reason…
@Janeite: Hear, hear…Seriously. Like there’s no clique here. Not that it’s anyone’s fault, you get there that everywhere. There are cliques on IMDB, Twitter and all kind of sites who allow comments. It’s impossible to avoid. This entire thread was cringy, not just the Duri comments. I still enjoy catching up here, but it’s hard to get an opinion out there sometimes if you’re not already in the ‘sorority’…
And RE: BC in general now. People worshipping the ground he walks on gets old, it’s boring, but just slagging him off for the sake of it is not my cup of tea either. It seems that there’s indeed a thin line between love and hate, because a few of his former most ardent admirers/CB regulars turned quite sour on him. That’s fine – but maybe then these Benedict threads are not the most suitable place for you to comment anymore. *Shrugs & drops mic*
Pretty much, DJ.
Is Lilacflowers icerose? Same vein of posts, and I thought she’d disappeared and kinda missed her.
If not, sorry, Lilacflowers! I just thought maybe new posting name since both have flowers.
@Katie, no, not Icerose and no need to apologize. I enjoy her posts and consider that a compliment. She still does pop up occasionally.
Thanks for clearing up my confusion, Lilacflowers! Good to know she’s still around, I must just be missing her.
DJ, you summed it up nicely. I like to contribute positive comments to the discussion but I know that’s not what everyone else does, which is fine. I DO NOT think that means Cumby is perfect (or any other celeb for that matter); I just prefer to keep things positive. Others may enjoy being snarky and cynical and if that’s how they choose to enjoy themselves here, that’s perfectly fine.
Some post on threads expressly because they do or don’t like a particular celeb or just enjoy being snarky no matter who the subject is. And there is a place for all of those comments here. I think the key is to just try hard to avoid those posters/comments that get our hackles up as much as possible. Not always easy. And a little more sensitivity on the part of all of us would not be remiss either. Just sayin’! 🙂
http://images.thehollywoodgossip.com/iu/t_full/v1402329808/rik-mayall-as-drop-dead-fred.gif
Stop it or I’m getting the shovel out!
I love Cumby, but I also love the snark. I don’t care about him PRing, I just hate when he goes to high profile things and then acts like he hates the attention that comes with it (the napkin thing the day after the Met…please Ben, don’t ever do that again, you looked like a twonk)
I just want him acting again.
The readings at Hay were fabulous though so if he does more stuff like that instead of looking bored at tennis games I’m fine with that.
@Eve, I too would love Viggo in this role (or any role) and I agree Mads would also be awesome. But I suspect Marvel is going to stick with an American actor for this part and that the chatter about Hardy or Cumberbatch originated with some blogger’s or newspaper/internet site writer’s wish list.
@Lilac, probably you’re right…. a tall, handsome, Howllywood-y kinda guy….
I could see Hamm wanting to do it as a change of pace after Mad Men.
Those Hardy lips. OMG I have dirty, despicable thoughts running through my head over those lips…
I actually don’t think either one of them is right for this one. Maybe Clive Owen? Need someone darker. Bale?
I don’t know. I’m going back to look at the Hardy lips some more.
Oh, someone put them TOGETHER again!!! Why not both of them in a money franchise a la Fassy and James?! YES!! My inner 14-yr old is screaming like that Swifty fan girl for this pair. The only thing that would make it even more supercalafragalistic would be to throw in Andrew Scott. Okay, I will stop now.
Either would be perfect. But O By The Vishanti, please no Johnny Depp. Please, please, please. This film has a lot of potential, and Depp would destroy it.
Viggo would be awesome, but I heard he turned it down, and I am not surprised. I think he is done with franchises, and I can’t see him signing up for a multi-film contract. He really likes to be able to do as he pleases.
“Viggo would be awesome, but I heard he turned it down,(…)”
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!
Viggo would be a great pick but come on! You really think he would lower himself to Marvel? Mr. “Too many SFX in LOTR”, would slum in the most corporate of corporate movies? No way! I love him but Viggo’s pretentions have pretentions. 🙂
Am I the only one that doesn’t want Marvel to ruin either of them?
You’re not the only one. Marvel and DC both are just ruining everybody and everything.
I know they make bank, but I have severe comic book movie fatigue.
No, you’re not. I just wrote something to that effect below.
I do as well. I admit though that I have a soft spot for Doctor Strange though. My prediction is that Marvel will ruin the actors and the story beyond all redemption.
No, you’re not. No interest in this whatsoever.
Nope, Sighs, agree 100%.
I don’t know. Whenever the topic of someone signing on to a franchise to play a superhero type of char comes up and people start doubting whether it would be good for the actor’s career, I recall Josh Hartnett and think that it’s a truly many-faceted issue.
That’s true. And it’s not like Marvel really ruined everyone – Chris Hemsworth got Rush or Heart of the Sea (which is hopefully good) and He Who Must Not Be Named won big time through his Marvel role and the ensuing exposure. Others like ScarJo, Mark Ruffalo and RDJ were already established beforehand, although Marvel was RDJ’s comeback train. And I’m also pretty sure that no matter what happens with Avengers 2, that James Spader will come out of it smelling like roses.
The only thing is that both Tom Hardy and BC are neither one of Marvel’s cheap nobodies nor already established big stars like ScarJo. So I don’t know if it would be a good job at this point in their careers, but I’m pretty it won’t happen anyway – pure rumor.
Isadora- this is my line of thinking. They’re both too much of a known commodity to benefit hugely from it, but not already established enough for it not to affect them if it’s crap. Then there’s the whole issue of the time commitment. Having to keep open massive amounts of time that can’t be dedicated to other movies/plays/tv.
What has Henry Cavill been doing? Chris Evans? I also think there is too much comic book saturation.
Intro Outro, I agree, but I should have specified that it isn’t the idea of a superhero franchise per se; it’s the studio involved. I don’t care for the way Marvel operates and there is definitely going to be an over-saturation point. It’s more a good deal for a relative unknown or established star than these two stuck in the middle actors.
@Sarasota: Chris Evans was actually in a movie that was supposed to be phenominal but has been the subject of a dispute with Weinstein: Snowpiercer. He works when he wants to (including getting into directing) and Marvel has been a pretty good gig for Captain America.
@Bridget, I have read fantastic things about that film and the clips I’ve seen are amazing. Great cast including Tilda Swinton, Octavia Spencer, Ed Harris, and John Hurt. The dispute is between the director and Weinstein, who finally agreed to release it but only in very limited theaters for a limited time.
@Isadora and @Katie, I agree completely.
@Bridget and Lilac, wow, thanks SO much for the heads-up on Snowpiercer, the trailers look very interesting! I’ll definitely be watching it.
And wow, the more I learn about Weinstein, the less I like what I learn =/
No @Sighs, you’re not alone on this boat… *leave them alone, Marvel*;
They deserve better than comic books… they deserve awesome parts in awesome movies, and freedom to choose roles…
I like Dr Strange, but Cumby would probably have to refuse certain roles (maybe)…to stick to their schedule…
I don’t know… It’s difficult…
I think the Depp rumours were just something that was rumored years ago and then some unreliable site reported them again. I do not think he was is consideration at any point.
Wow. On this one I have to say Dr. Strange should go to Tom Hardy. Dr. Strange needs a beard and long hair and I just cannot picture Cumby with a beard. But both choices are excellent though so I won’t cry if either of them gets cast although I am the bigger Cumberbatch fan. I think he needs to let Tom have this one.
Jared Leto has been reported as an option too. He has the long hair ready!
ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!! No!!! No Jared Leto. That is a terrible choice.
With Jared’s hair, right now his options should be either Jesus Christ Superstar or Joseph & The Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat and not a superhero doctor.
He’d make dr strange look like a Loki clone, it would be a bad casting idea. Plus, he is too pretty., from the comic pictures he seems a lot more man-ugly.
@’p’enny , you just called our Benny man-ugly…. ?
*winks at ‘p’enny, because the comment made me laugh… ihihihihih*
@nighty… noooo, HAHAA, well, maybe, but sexy-man-ugly. 😀
Honestly, I think that “leading contenders” is a bit of a stretch, this is just a very early wish list. It wouldn’t suprise me if the “news” was leaked just to throw the fan boys off the scent after the Ant-Man fiasco.
Anyway, maybe I’m alone in this, but I wouldn’t want to see them in this role. I like them both too much to see them become a part of Marvel’s machine.
Strictly physically speaking though, I could go with Jon Hamm.
And I don’t think this is Marvel’s wish list. As for Hamm, he is under contract with Disney so it would not be beyond the realm of possibilities.
Random note at the risk of repeating myself and getting eviscerated for it: There was an awesome hint at this movie in “Winter Soldier” where the Hydra-heli-weapon targeted Stephen Strange walking in the park. It’s only a flash but it was pretty cool.
I don’t think tumblr could handle Hiddleson and Cumberbatch in the same universe. It’d implode.
Wait, what??? I saw Winter Soldier twice and I heard the name Strange being mentioned, but I didn’t see him. Bummer.
Isn’t Strange also linked to Jane Foster? If so, didn’t his name make an appearance in the first Thor movie? Or am I wrong?
They didn’t show Strange. They flashed a graphic showing names and locations of heli-weapon targets and his name and location showed but no image. They did mention him at one point.
@M.A.F. probably. In one of the really early Dr. Strange comics, he is linked to Loki.
Agent Sitwell mentioned Stephen Strange on the rooftop scene where Natasha and Steve were questioning him about Hydra’s infiltration.
Looking back. Cumberbatch was rumored/wanted for Strange even before he started “hitting it big” so if he gets chosen, it’s not big surprise.
I’m not a fan of Hardy so I’m not really hoping he gets it lol. Besides, with him being Bane, I’d think the DC/Marvel contracts would be at odds…
But were those rumors legit or just fan casting? I never saw anything that looked even slightly reliable.
Cucumber’s RP are very good .He was rumored to be “wanted” as lead for Everest or JJ Abrams’StarWars .I guess they weren’t able to start the rumor with Cucumber as Batman/Wayne in the next Znyder
Until this point it’s all been speculation and rumors (some more credible than others) for the casting of Doctor Strange. IIRC, there was some solidity to the Cumby for Strange (lol) rumors despite there being a lot of fan-wistfulness (and this was before/just at the start of Sherlock-fame). But yeah until this point, Marvel’s never really said “here’s our shortlist of actors we want”, as far as I know.
They haven’t.
Marvel has no idea about D Strange….Hardy and Cucumber are (with Fassbender )in every wishlist
Some years ago,it was Keanu Reeves or Christian Bale in their wishlist
LOL, why are you talking about Bale in the past tense? I’m pretty sure he still is on some wishlists 🙂
(Love you nickname by the way)
Neither, please. Raúl Esparza and Patrick Dempsey look most like the character. And both are TV actors, so right up Marvel’s ally.
Agreed on both counts. I’d especially love to see Raúl in a big role like this.
As much as I love both BC and TH, neither of them are right for Strange. Of all the actors mentioned, Jon Hamm is by far the best choice.
Jon Hamm would be an interesting choice. I really hope he doesn’t get typecast after Mad Men.
I like both actors, but neither of them seem like good choices for the role. Or anywhere near it.
It’s interesting. Both very very good, neither a huge movie star (yet). Is Marvel a good move? Well it’s not like if Cumby gets Oscar-nominated for Immitation Game he’d be alone (Downey Jr, Ruffalo, Renner). It would be a drain on his schedule though. If Mad Max flops then Hardy will probably be more inclined to take it. If it’s a hit I’m not sure why Hardy would bother.
I agree with the poster who said it’s all drawing from the same list. Same guys are on the studio wish lists. My guess is the only reason Fassbender’s name isn’t mentioned is he already has XMen and is just generally insanely too busy.
Fassbender is in a competing franchise and Marvel avoids actors who contracted to X-Men or DC franchises. Even though X-Men and Spiderman too are Marvel created, they aren’t part of the MCU.
Meh. I’m so bored of actors jumping on the franchise bandwagon, though I understand why they do it. I’d rather not see him sign a multi picture deal since I like the mixture of projects he’s got and selfishly, I just have no interest in phase whatever of Marvel’s fifty year plan for releasing the same film every year for the next half century.
It would be great for Cumby if he could do a Marvel movie… but I don’t know. I could see Tom Hardy making this film as well…
But the real question is if Cumby decided to make the film, would he want to be signed to a multi picture contract that may further prevent him (due to scheduling conflicts or other contract stuff) from doing other plays and movies, and/or the 4th/5th season of Sherlock??? Hmmm.
I Like both Ben and Hardy but think they should stay away from Dr Strange. I think there’ll be a comic book backlash soon. Having said that I did watch the new X-Men. I don’t remember the story. Just remember Fassy looking beautiful. I’m so smitten I even went on Tumblr for the first time. I was a bit scared after what I heard about Tumblr but actually the Fassy stuff was fine, some nice pics and funny stuff. Didn’t see anything Stalkerish or crazy
I just now have been watching Sherlock Holmes. Cumberbatch is an incredible actor, so he gets my vote.
I pictured someone along the lines of Dominic Cooper playing the part (although he can’t thanks to Agent Carter now being produced). Or a younger Liam Neeson or how about Patrick Dempsey (I believe his name is being thrown around) or Justin Theroux. I’m basing these suggestions solely based on the images I have seen of the character. And with that, neither Cumberbatch or Hardy fits the bill for me.
Way back when, around 2010, Marvel announced the casting of two unknown actors in the roles of Thor and Loki — Chris Hemsworth and Tom Hiddleston, of course.
I, for one, would love to see Marvel return to that philosophy. Give the role of Dr. Strange to a younger, unknown actor. Marvel would save money, on the first and subsequent films, they could generate hype once the role is cast, and they would be giving a fabulous opportunity to a hungry young actor who could put his own stamp on the role.
+1
But don’t forget that they had Kenneth Branagh as director for Thor and he was quite involved in the casting process. I guess they were more inclined to give the boys a chance when someone like Branagh (who was once nominated for an Oscar for Best Director) works with them and knows one of them already pretty well.
So given the latest director disaster with Ant-Man it’s maybe a safer bet for them to bring more established actors with an already existing fanbase into the boat (and they definitely can afford it because although they had a huge success with Iron Man in the last few years they also had the rest of these immensly popular movies including Avengers).
When I posted quite a discreet post a few days ago, with a low key reference not really naming he who must not be named, it was not actually posted – kinda an un posted post. Anyway, not risking further censorship, I know nothing of these characters but we seem to be talking of hunky actors (and Benjy…) many of them Brits, late 30s early 40s so am just going to throw Toby Stephens into the mix. Yep, Toby has been thrown. Preferably in my direction.
Yeap @Anne tommy, same here with the posts… why would you consider Toby for the role?
* he’s good looking, always has been…*
Oh no… not also Toby Stephens. I managed to keep a certain healthy admiration-from-afar-thing for this undeniably hot ginger Brit, but if he does Marvel stuff he will be everywhere. And my restraint only goes so far…
Maybe I was just visualising a handsome man in order to distract myself from the stress caused by the rather intense exchange of views about Benjy’s motives. Hope that’s over!
Didn’t see anything Stalkerish or crazy on Tumblr? Wow. Might I suggest you never go back? You got lucky! 😉
Think of irony cumby.goes marvel & hiddles.jumps ship to DC if the latest daft rumours are to be believed. Hiddles is wanted for the joker.
But it was only a fan casting post that started that rumour, if I am not mistaken o_O
@INTRO i did say daft. lol. but i think its a top idea.
It’s nice to imagine, but no. Everyone who takes the role after Heath is in for a rough ride. The guy was iconic as Joker and his tragic death made him a legend. People will flame the guy that will be the next Joker.
And Hiddles already has one comic book villain under his belt, why should he take another one. (Oh and btw, wouldn’t there be a problem with the Marvel/DC contracts?)
@Isadora, there would be a huge problem and it would haunt him. Marvel would never release him and the parent Disney would punish him by not offering him roles.
I will literally eat my shoe if that happens. No way he abandons Loki. That’s his bread and butter and the only large scale thing he’s got going on. Not saying he plays him forever but I don’t see him leaving before the character has finished his story. That could go on for a few more films. At least 1 or 2 more I hope.
Its weird enough to see him in “normal” roles (for me, anyway), it would be weird to see him in another comic book movie, at least not for a long while. Nah, don’t like it.
He won’t abandon Loki, he can’t and like Isadora says, i would be very surprised if there isn’t a contract issue. However, the actress that played Sif was in talks for Wonder Woman. But i don’t think she is on the contract terms Hiddles is.
I do wonder thought, if it is possible to switch, that he might play agents off too boost his earnings for Thor3. I can feel Feige being very unhappy, if Batman v Superman opens against Cap America and one of his star-babies is going to draw huge controversial headlines, because of being Heath Ledger’s successor. As for daring taking on the role, Hiddles wouldn’t think twice, he went for the Crow which has the same issues. Plus, he has a fanbase that might be more sympathetic to Tom, than to a lot of actors.
@’p’enny-I don’t think Jamie Alexander was truly under talks to play Wonder Woman. I believe her and her camp started that rumor (even though I was totally rooting for that to happened).
@’p’enny, Jamie Alexander was in talks for Wonder Woman but Marvel quashed it. And The Crow is a much older movie; a whole generation hasn’t seen it. DC also wouldn’t want an actor so closely identified so recently with the competition.
It’s daft of course, and besides Hiddleston would be an IDIOT to play the Joker. Right now the public knows him as a comic book villain and…a comic book villain. That’s it. Maybe if/when he has had a few mainstream successes not dressed in a silly costume, but it would be beyond dumb at this point.
Loki’s outft is no silly costume!!!! How dare you Mia4S. LOL.. it is one of the most sexiest leather metal combi’s with a frock coat going! He is well sexy.
However, Benny in big silk blousey sleeveed shirt and white sideburns and big cape and a medallion will look silly. :-p
LOL! Thanks for the laugh @”P”enny. 😉 I meant silly in a nice way! I LOL’d every time Loki had the horns. The guy’s about as menacing as a grasshopper.
The horns are ludicrous but they dropped them for Thor2. That leather frock coat is a work of art.
Oh, don’t hate the horns! I like them in a strange way… I… think the cut of the helmet accentuates his cheekbones or something.
My favourite part of the Loki costume might still be the prison outfit including those slippers. Of couse he is all dashing in leather and metal but Loki “at home”, reading? Ah… I love that.
And ‘p’enny, Benny with his “impeccable” fashion sense might actually love the costume you just described.. *shakes head* (oh… this rhymes… ‘p’enny… Benny… you were meant for each other!)
@Isadora
me and benny mean’t for each other…swoon, but only with Sherlock hair and long trench coats.
@lilacflowers. That frock coat is well and truly a piece of work, I can’t wait to see how they develop it further, but I was also a fan of the solid black frock coat in Thor1. I just love the way it surrounds his body.
Oh please note guys, there is no way I think Hiddles is going to be the Joker, I was only musing. I don’t think for one moment that’s going to happen.
Hiddleston would be better suited to Riddler than Joker, but that’s just me.
@Lindy, true that. He’s the right body type.
@’p’enny, I find the evolution of Loki’s costume quite fascinating. That coat weighs 30 pounds.
@’p’enny, those latest rumors were from a blogger who started a “Who we would like to see as The Joker” article and named him as her first choice and it got picked up by a bunch of other websites. There are no discussions of him taking that part. Marvel would never let him do it and DC would never want someone so closely identified with a Marvel character. It wouldn’t be a casting coup; it would be more like reminding the audience of the other competing franchise. Doubtful that he would even want to do it. He has discussed how Ledger’s performance blew him away. He’s not jumping to DC. Feige owns him but he also owes him at this point and they both know it.
Hardy fell out with PNut and apparently they no longer talk. So its not all one big happy family sharing trainers.
Hardy isnt the blokish guy and Cumberbatch the posh one. BOTH are posh. Hardy came from a very privileged family. He just likes to put on the old lower class London accent that good old cockney geezer Christian Bale likes to partake in.
I’m sorry. Love Benedict and love Hardy, but they are both wrong for Dr. Strange.
I would like to see some one like Clive Owen, Gerard Butler or Javier Bardem.. a bit more rugged and raw..
Either choice would be great! The only issue I have is that I’m starting to like Cumberbatch, and it needs to stop. -_-
Please not Benedict. Do not want him in Marvel.
Someone did a manip of BC’s image into Martian Manhunter and I’ll be damned if that doesn’t fit. I don’t know how he’d do acting-wise in it, but if he doesn’t do Dr Strange, it’d be kinda cool to see him as MM.
The whole him hanging out at Marvel headquarters a while back is only adding fuel to the fire, it seems.
Tom Hardy was so believable as the deranged villain in Oliver Twist that he gave me the creeps. I’m definitely going with Hardy. Hardy was amazing in inception as well. Not a Cumberbatch fan, after seeing his watered down version of Julianne Assang (or however the man’a name is spelled) I didn’t care for his acting skills. He just wasn’t captivating. I got faith in Hardy’s skills though.
Rik Mayall has died 🙁
I’m in shock.
I know, I saw that too! Someone further up in the thread mentioned it as well. I think he was only 56. Way too young.
For me Hardy is the guy. He can play anything and his screen presence is unreal !
Ew at either of them. Is there some reason why the same 5 people have to be in everything? Tom Hardy was already in The Dark Knight Rises and Cumbersnatch was Khan in Star Trek. That’s enough for them.
Great point.
Although I love Benny I think he should stay clear of this one. It’s very Silmilar to characters he already plays.
I personally want to see Fassy in that role but he’s really busy at the moment.
I like the idea of viggo mortenson, Gerald Butler, Sam worthington or even idris Elba.
As for Princess Hiddles, he already has a big character role with marvel plus he needs a good year out of the limelight. I’m for one is getting sick of his PR antics
Same here about the antics… and something disappeared….
Benedict is a smart guy, he knows what to choose… He knows what’s best for him, what he likes, what he should do, next moves….
LOL. Very telling, isn’t it, the disappearances. 😉 I agree with what JulK wrote, don’t mix business w/personal info. Tacky.
I am with you both on the PR antics and games… Princess Hiddles needs a good (well funded) film. His last projects have fizzled due to financing… still don’t know what happened with Capa…
@nightykickedout – on the account. That’s what happens when you mix business with “pleasure”.. First cardinal rule of professionalism: “You don’t sh** where you eat”
I kind of think that a Marvel character is a step backwards for Benedict, especially if he is aiming at the industry recognition. Plus they have already confirmed that Khan was coming back and he was brilliant at that. I am actually hoping for something lighter for him… maybe (should i dare say it?) a Rom-Com.
A rom-com would be nice… he’s also very good at comedy…, so I think he’d be fine on that genre also… oh Khan is comin back? Hope so, though Star Trek is not my type of movies… Actually, the continues remakes of classics are making me hate the movies I actually liked when younger, Star Wars… the 1st trilogy was awesome.. the rest… blehhh (but that’s my opinion) .. Now they wanna do Indy?? Indiana Jones, please, don’t ruin it for me..
Yep,… gotta be careful about those things…
Benny has spent the last 6 months or more non-stop spinning his PR wheels, not Hiddles.
However, I think both Benny and Hiddles need to calm it down a big notch. If I see another bad modelling magazine shoot, car advert, attending flower shows [for God’s sake] rehashed internet interviews, bad photo-bombs, sponsored clothing going ‘on’s’, hugging dogs, appearing at sporting events, girlfriend/boyfriend holiday rumours and badly staged papped photos in the blue shirts/chambrey blue shirts/Armani black cardigan/bad purple cords and silly caps/hats and scarves and sycophantic twitter fan-baiting.
I will personally split their skulls, like a tomato and squeeze them till they are empty of all sillyness.
After of course, [hypocritically] after the 15th June modelling event and then stop it. :-p
I propose a new PR plan for both of them, get married to each other, adopt a baby, hire only one PR exec, save them both money. Appear in Marvel and Sherlock and Shakespeare stuff together, they can show up in fashion shoots and sporting events together and give us something to really good to drool over.
I personally don’t mind them doing PR. It’s part of their work. I think that Benedicts is far better than TH… granted, he is all over the place, but he knows who he is and lives his ife accordingly. For that same reason, I adore Fassy.
TH on the other hand… that whole Elle thing was ridiculous and so “arranged”. I don’t see the benefit of having a girls fashion mag fangirl all over you… I think TH PR is so poor because of the Fanbait situation. Someone didn’t handle her properly. Regardless of what they do in their private life, for a year now, the person that has been “closest” to him has been following her fans, favouriting his projects and following his project and letting his fans know that she was there, when he was clearly trying to keep things quiet. Very mixed messages. This not only played badly with the fans, but it heavly hit his Prince Charming image. He is clearly not what his PR wants us to believe and now we know.
I have to say, I don’t mind if he were a “bad boy”. I love Fassy (have I said that before??) and he is no saint neither is Benny. It’s the deciet that I don’t like and it was totaly unecessary.
I have no issue with doing the PR stuff, not really, but like I say both have had a habit of going to far with it. I think Benny has a higher level of awareness with the general public and has an older audience. And it’s differently targeted. The Flower Show, Hay Festival were targeting middle-class audiences interested in buying Hamlet tickets at the high price they will now doubt go live at. F1 stuff tied in nicely with jag promotion/Far East awareness building stuff. Benny is on solid quality acting ground, pushing for bigger lead roles.
Hiddles PR is messier because it ‘was’ targeting the younger, PG-13, online community, it was built online. A lot harder to control. He launched it at the time of BAFTA awards in 2012 and the Avengers promotion. He just turned 30 and was a newbie. And, it took off very fast over the last two years. The Prince Charming/Perfect gentlemen stuff was built by the fans, but I agree he has flamed it. But, I believe he is a genuine nice guy too many people he has worked with has paid testament to that.
He doesn’t as yet, but is growing ‘cough’ me gaining older, steadier female fan base. Elle and GQ articles are trying to push him out to a broader fan-base. But, it’s going to take him a few more film/TV roles to break it. High Rise in particular may just to do the trick! They really won’t like his character.
And, All this Dr Strange stuff tells me that Thor is being pushed further back. And, I wonder if it is because Tom and Chris want time out. I thought it was telling that interview that Tom gave in Toronto about being free of Marvel for a while and not having to devote six months of his time to them.
Nicely put, @’P’enny, I didn’t know all that about his early PR days. Your explanation makes perfect sense.
I’ve witnessed several music fandoms growing steadily older, and it’s not always a smooth process for everyone involved. Imo Hiddles taking this big break from PR activities and also the general tone of his recent interviews shows he’s working on changing his public persona. And I agree that what he needs are a couple of serious/no-nonsense roles to solidify his progress.
@’p’enny: Yes!! I mean.. for purely selfish reasons I don’t mind any PR antics because.. well.. new pictures of Hiddles. We don’t even know what he will do this year after High-Rise and even though the wait between Crimson Peak and High-Rise isn’t extremely long we all look forward to the 15th (and that’s charity so not only PR like some photoshoot or something). But from a professional point of view I agree with you and yes, I think Hiddles really does try to change/expand his fanbase a bit. I mean, along with tuning the social media stuff down a notch, his film roles should ensure that he reaches a larger audience as they are rather varied which I love, but it’s a slow process that takes a couple of years. And High-Rise.. can’t wait. For all the tantalizing Gothic appeal Sir Thomas Sharpe has, I think I look even more forward to his Laing (still haven’t read the book as I’m in the middle of something else, but from what I know about this character).
But I guess in the end he will turn out fine. We have to keep in mind that the PR stuff of both, Hiddles and Cumby, is not something Average Joe reads about. The fans who follow their steps do and they might be glad for pictures too, and the rest of the world is probably only waiting for new films and doesn’t even know about Flower shows, Elle interviews and such.
And because Fassy was mentioned: he has done his fair share of magazine photo shoots (and they were a lot more on the sexy side than anything TH or BC have ever done) and it hasn’t hurt him. I think he has a several industry years head start to those two, so we can’t really compare them.
i really hope cumby says no if offered dr strange. he doesn’t need it at this point and there’s a lot to lose. it could be a big fail if not done right. it is a smart career move to do a franchise though, but he should wait for the right one.
(although i always think of sherlock as his ‘franchise’).
@ Mia4S, thanks for the advice re Tumblr, I will never go back! It maybe Fassys fans are not as Stalkerish as he doesn’t bait them or shill to the extent that a lot of others too.
I do think BC wants/needs to branch out, but I don’t think a comic book character would be a good vehicle for him at this point at all. I think he needs a successful leading or co-starring role in something contemporary, not biopic or fantasy, to increase his marketability.
And truthfully, I don’t know enough about the Doctor Strange character to say if it’s a good fit for TH.
I would love to see them do something together again, if for the eye candy alone!
Wes Anderson needs to call Cumberbatch.
YES!
That would be wonderful if that ever happened! A Wes Anderson-type indie film would be a great vehicle for him to play on what seems to be a quirky sense of humor. The kind of character that Owen Wilson plays in those films would work really well for him, I think. I really don’t want to see him go down the comic book character path right now.
The first photo is from a film called Stuart and me. Trying to find that film as they were both really good at it.
About the ‘situation’ it’s only being mentioned on here and LSA. Tumblr actually doesn’t care about disappearances and neither does Twitter. Which makes the disappearance even more confusing.
Also who’s been annoying them on LSA?
@ Ellen
The film you are talking about is called, “Stuart, a Life Backwards”, not Stuart and Me.
It might make it easier to find. It is on DVD at Amazon if you are interested.
LSA is Lipstick Alley, right? I don’t think it’s anything specific; just the general dissing of other gossip sites that always goes on. Plenty of comments on here put down Datalounge, Tumblr, Lipstick Alley and ONTD. Just the same way that those sites disparage CB and each other. Same old same old. I really wish everyone on all the aforementioned sites (including this one) would refrain from dissing others for doing what all of us are doing regardless of the site. I’ve said this before but it never stops and probably never will.
@ellen It’s talked a little bit on tumblr but mostly in one tumblr kind of devoted for that. I feel like people doesn’t care much about her. He acted like a single man for months, and he was busy working, so I guess no one really believe the engagement / wedding rumor.
JA kind of fell off the tom-fan radar because he literally never mentions her or any gf/relationship and is never seen at events with her and, save for a few “sightings” people claim on Datalounge, she’s a non-entity to the scary!fans. I think, just for the very few mentions I did see, it’s being treated as “eh, oh well, whatever” by the majority of his fans.
I’m just going to say it. I loathe the day Marvel finally figured out how to make their projects work as films.
On the one hand kudos for their success, but on the other Hollywood is such a money town that it’s less willing to make films that aren’t derivatives of Marvel.
Thanks for however told me about Stuart, a life backwards. No wonder I couldn’t find it. Just ordered it and can’t want for it to arrive.
@Janeite I agree with you. I personally like this site better because you never know what’s going to happen.
@ ‘p’enny. Yes I think they should marry each other and let it be the end of it. Harry Potter has just done the big GF reveal so…
Fed up with the pair of them. Thank God fassy doesn’t play fans
@Ellen
About Fassy, I don’t know I really don’t follow his career, but he is on a higher level of getting quality film roles than both Benny and Tommy. He doesn’t have to push the PR to get attention. When that day comes, he will.
@ ‘P@enny. Fassy does have PR team and he does well with it. His team is a very well known team in the US. His is at anothe rlevel, he doesn’t need to go to tennis matched or catwalks, he just gets into the celebrity programs in the states.. The E! people love him and he is in national gossip magazines in the states (with a different girl each time) all the time. It is just another league and flavour.. but that is his PR.
@Ellen don’t worry. This is showbiz (nothing is forever). So, they come out at gf and bf only to break up soon.. In fact, it would be a great PR strategy to do that so I wouldn’t be surprised. Then all his fans will feel so sorry and would like to nurse his broken little heart…. don’t know why, but I keep thinking of the Footballer/WAG relationship when I think of those two..
Footballer / WAG relationship?
Footballers in England (Europe actually) are huge celebrities and there are certian girls that target them. They love the celebrity aspect of it. A very good friend of mine was a well known footballer (think CK underwear) and he was constantly targeted by girls. He dated this girl, who he actually liked, and she kept leaking info on them on social media despite him being very clear about keeping thing private… fans always knew about that and kept going to his favoriute places catching him with the girl. There are loads of girls “dating” footballers that leak all sorts of things.. where they are having lunch, which nighclub they visisted together etc.. a simple follow in twitter is enough….
unlike wags, she has a good job.
I think Julk I think that is a bit too far a comparison. If she sells her story to the Daily Mirror I will agree with you. And, she has never leaked on twitter any information about him/being with him. She made a mistake of following fan twitter accounts and his film twitter accounts. hardly the sell-off crime of the century.
@ ‘P’enny I meant it in case of my friend only. I guess I should have stated that more clearly. I agree that she has not gone that far. The overall explanation of a WAG to @nighty was not meant as a comparison to her, but rather as general info. Sorry about that.
@Ellen:
How can you be “fed up with the pair of them” if they do not parade their relationship (which imo has FWB written all over it so no wonder no-one is making any official statements for the fans), do not get pap’ed, do not post their pics together etc etc? I am sorry, Ellen, for making this personal remark, but I’ve noticed how you keep bringing up this same subject in thread after thread – including completely unrelated Cumby threads o_O Maybe it’s *you* who is so interested in their relationship – and, consequently, feeling, forgive me, entitled to some sort of “explanation” or demanding that they “reveal” themselves – that you’ve come to the point of being that much fed up? 😉
Actually I have no interest in their relationships whatsoever. I like to see what people tick and motivates them. With Princess Hiddles all I get is this is she isn’t she? That it’s now slightly intriguing.
I will back off and find something else about him. Although I didn’t actually bring the subject up this time or last time. I’ve only done it once
The Fed up thing is about their Pr in general.
Sorry for any offence caused
Oh I see. Yup, his PR definitely needs perfecting 😉 No offence whatsoever, and I really hope I didn’t offend you in any way, either. Peace!
They could always use a fake beard.
Why so serious people? It’s suppose to be fun. A little snarky, a little bitchy, a little rude. Let’s not take it personally.
Besides they are only actors, they are not going to come up with an equation which allows objects to move at the speed of light or near speed of light without increasing its mass.
I’m going to throw one out there. Neither. Pedro Pascal seems perfect.