Chloe Sevigny thinks jocks have taken over NYC: ‘It’s like a frat house’

Chloe Sevigny

Chloe Sevigny has a new Amazon series, The Cosmopolitans, which has a pilot out now. Amazon seeks to do big business against Netflix. I’m skeptical of Amazon’s ability to do all things. Maybe it will work out. I won’t subscribe to Amazon Prime, but that’s okay. Chloe has a Netflix series in the works too. Scandal!

Chloe has a new interview with the Daily Beast. She’s promoting her newly announced Chloe Book, which is a style book that comes out out in 2015 (you can read about it in the full interview). In these excerpts, Chloe’s still a hilariously judgy hipster. She laments all the jocks who have taken over NYC even though she prefers “a macho dude.” These jocks are ruining her vibe, man:

French men vs. American men: “I’ve never dated a French man! I want to be the sexy one. I feel like they do an overtly sexy thing–at least the ones I know–but I’d rather have me be the sexy one. I like more of … a macho dude.”

Her recent move to Brooklyn: “Two weeks ago. I just sold my apartment a year ago. After ten years of living in the East Village, I was on 10th St. between 2nd and 3rd, I was like, ‘Get me the f— out of here.” I was looking around a lot in Manhattan, but the prices were exorbitant. And then I looked in Brooklyn, and I didn’t want to live in ‘hip’ Brooklyn, so I moved out to the dorkiest, hokiest neighborhood–Park Slope–and I’m really feeling the vibes out there. But the flight patterns out there are constant. I’d read a bit about it in the New York Times, but I didn’t realize how bad it was ’til I moved out there–planes constantly buzzing overhead.”

Rumors of bedbugs on the L-train: “On the trendy train?”

The state of NYC: “I’m trying to stay positive. A lot of people are hating on everything that’s going on. But I love New York so much. But walking around the East Village, I just want to cry at the state of it. There are so many f—in’ jocks everywhere! It’s like a frat house everywhere. There are all those terrible bars like The 13th Step, and it’s just spreading over to A and B. I don’t know if it’s a sign of the times, but where are the real weirdos? The real outcasts? They’re a vanishing breed here. Maybe New York isn’t drawing that anymore because it’s too expensive. Vintage clothing shops are sort of a metaphor for the state of New York City, because they’re not ‘vintage,” and they’re expensive as hell now. That’s what I call ‘Fashion Goths.’ You see these kids walking on the street and think, ‘Oh, look at that Goth kid,’ and then you realize it isn’t a Goth kid, it’s just a ‘Fashion Goth’ who’s dressed as a Goth kid. It’s so disparaging.”

On social media: “I’ve never had a Twitter, and my Facebook is private. Maybe I should do a promotional, Instagram-y thing … but I don’t even have an iPhone yet. I have a BlackBerry. I like to evolve with the times, but it just seems like over-sharing. I already have to share too much with all the vampires of the world. I have this girl I’m friends with on Facebook, and even she talks about ‘wanting likes.’ It’s weird that creative minds like hers are striving for this sense of approval, and this dopamine release. It’s really dangerous.”

[From Daily Beast]

Chloe is a master shade thrower. She’s so subtle and self-deprecating that you don’t even realize her marvelous insults until a few seconds later. She’s not unnecessarily mean. Chloe tells it like it is. I left out the parts of the interview where Chloe says murderous club kid Michael Alig used to shun her (Chloe later played Alig’s girlfriend in Party Monster). Chloe calls Alig an a-hole and keeps ripping on him. He deserves it.

Chloe also repeats a previous point about how she’ll never regret Brown Bunny. That was the movie where she gave Vincent Gallo a real-life beej, and he spent half the movie on a motorcycle driving into the horizon. The movie was almost universally panned, and I remember stories about Chloe crying at the Cannes premiere. I’m glad she’s recovered from the stigma and doesn’t shy away from answering questions.

Chloe signs off the interview with her usual hipster flourish. She had an appointment at the Apple store to fix her 15-year-old laptop. See, it’s possible to use Apple products without falling into the iCloud trap. Chloe is fabulous.

Chloe Sevigny

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  1. It is what it is says:

    I like her and think she’s a good actress

  2. Snazzy says:

    “I didn’t want to live in ‘hip’ Brooklyn, so I moved out to the dorkiest, hokiest neighborhood–Park Slope–and I’m really feeling the vibes out there.”

    Bitch, please.

    • Mrs. Darcy says:

      +1! Park Slope is like little Manhattan at this point is it not? My friend just moved there, she jokes about how even the sidewalk trash is fancy/desirable. Chloe doesn’t know where to find the real hipster-ness anymore, mwahaha….

    • t.fanty says:

      Yeah, I rolled my eyes at that, too. Everyone I know in Park Slope has two kids (named things like Hudson and Saxon) and a Subaru.

      • Amy says:

        Echo the Park Slope comments, minus “Hudson & Saxon,” only because my friends there have kids with names that are more like “Michael” and “David” (not their actual names, but much more in the “wouldn’t stick out in Indianapolis” range). Park Slope is basically the Upper East Side with brownstones instead of apartments.

    • Esmom says:

      Yeah, I thought Park Slope was where the married hipsters went. Nowhere near undiscovered.

      • GoodNamesAllTaken says:

        Park Slope was being “discovered” by what were then called yuppies when I lived in Brooklyn Heights in the 80s. She’s full of it.

    • Victoria1 says:

      I was really expecting to see Bushwick or let’s be real gangster and say Canarsie. But yeah… Park Slope is a stroller parking lot

    • AG-UK says:

      I use to live in Park Slope back in the day it was even then not deepest darkest, I guess not Brooklyn Heights, but most of Brooklyn isn’t like it use to be so she needs to get over it or move to East NY or Bushwick but I bet that’s different too. Even Bed Stuy is diff. When I lived in the Brooklyn you would have to tell a cabbie I am going to Brooklyn Heights or Park Slope or you would lose an arm with the door handle if you didn’t. Most can’t afford the city so have to move out and the closer you are to the city the higher the prices.. I do get that frat vibe when you go to a bar all in button down shirts looked like they just walked out of Goldman Sachs. I am glad I was there when it seemed a bit edgy and more fun

      • GoodNamesAllTaken says:

        Oh, my gosh, so true about the cabbies. I would tell them out of courtesy (unless it was raining and cabs were scarce) that it was ok if they said no, but I needed to go to Brooklyn. About half said no. I learned to do this after one screamed at me the entire way about how unfair it was for him to have to go there where he couldn’t get a return fare.

      • t.fanty says:

        It actually isn’t legal for a cabbie to refuse to take you somewhere. I know this, because Mr. Fanty used to be in law enforcement, and we used to live in the back of beyond in Queens and would routinely have arguments with cabbies that Mr. Fanty was forcing to drive to Queens. The trick is not to give the exact address until you’re in the borough itself. I spent a year saying “Queensborough plaza, please” and as soon as we got there,
        “Actually, I need you to go a bit further….” and then making them go to Bayside.

      • BooBooLaRue says:

        Yup, I lived in Jersey City back in the late 80′s very edgy.

      • GoodNamesAllTaken says:

        Right, I knew it wasn’t legal for them to say no, but I’d tell them it was ok if they did because I understood why they hated going there. (Because they rarely got a return fare to Manhattan.) I preferred to just take another cab than sitting in a little box with a seething mad person hating me for 25 minutes. Lol, I’m just sensitive that way.

    • BooBooLaRue says:

      Yes thank you, eye roll in the extreme. She annoys me. She is talented, I give her that, but she is annoying. And NOT aging well.

    • LeAnn Stinks says:

      Born and bred Brooklynite here. Park Slope was always trendy, even back in the ’80′s, except for the South Slope.

      I don’t even know what part of Brooklyn would be considered “dorky and hoky.” Those are two adjectives that I would never use to describe that borough.

      She should try Greenpoint. Despite the popularity of “Girls,” there is still some of the old neighborhood charm left. But, you can see tell, that it could easily turn into Williamsburg tomorrow.

    • Hayley says:

      I’m freakin’ CANADIAN and even I know Park Slope is uber-trendy. Try again, Chloe.

  3. Relli says:

    Reading this I feel like maybe I am turning into a judgy hipster because although I don’t live in NYC I have had these same conversations and thoughts about my city.

    • Esmom says:

      Ha, me, too. I realized one day that my city neighborhood had become more suburban than the suburbs so I moved…not to another part of the city but to the suburbs.

    • Tara says:

      Me too. Money has ruined lots of Seattle. Capitol Hill’s Hairy Mary and Fallout Records have been replaced by nail places and souless bars with overpriced drinks and big TVs showing sports.

      • Liz says:

        Ha, yes, reading this I was totally thinking about Capitol Hill in Seattle, where I’ve lived for 20 years. It is overrun with douchebags and their douche bars to the point where I barely even go out on the weekends anymore, and even then I generally take the side streets so I can avoid these zombie Amazon losers clogging up the sidewalks while staring at their freaking phones. So I relate to Chloe as a fellow crank is what I’m saying.

      • Ann says:

        Anyone can recommend a great neighborhood in Seattle to live in?

    • Maria of MD says:

      The interesting creative people she laments the loss of have had to move even farther away than she realizes. I remember reading about some of them having to relocate to Pennsylvania and the real, determined pioneer sorts are going to Detroit. NY Times did the article a couple of years or so ago.

  4. bns says:

    I can’t stand her and isn’t she too old to act like a pretentious hipster douche?

    • Esmom says:

      I agree but “pretentious hipster douche” is her schtick so I imagine she’ll be clinging to it for years to come.

      The one thing I do agree with is her comment that people overshare on social media. Preach it, Chloe!

      • Chris says:

        To me FB is only worth keeping so you don’t miss out on getting invited to stuff. Apart from that it’s a big waste of time.

      • Bob Loblaw says:

        I agree with Chris, I like it for staying in touch with people and planning barbecues but otherwise it’s a waste of time and a lot of people seem kind of addicted to it and constant over-sharing. Sorry to be rude but shut that stuff down, nobody needs to know about every little thing in your life, every minute.

      • Jenny says:

        Really? You miss getting invited to stuff if you don’t have Facebook? I’ve never had FB (or any other social media at all) and I haven’t noticed missing any invites but then how would I know if I did, right? :-)

        I don’t like Chloe or any other pretentious art-sy type like her but I do agree with her about social media. So sad how people spend their lives oversharing online.

    • Pix says:

      I think she’s authentic – pretenses, but real. She’s a cool NYC chic through and through – always has been – she’s an original. Hipster d-bags want to be like her, that’s their front. She’s not pretending and you can’t say that about a lot of “hipsters” which makes them d-bags in the first place.

      • TheOriginalKitten says:

        She’s no Lena Dunham and I guess this is why I can’t get the hate-on for her the way everyone else can. She would annoy me if it wasn’t real, but this is who she is. She’s been cool since Kids.

        And yeah, I think she’s cool.

        *shrugs*

        On another note, New Yorkers are weird in how they always fight about this borough being better than that borough or this neighborhood being better than that neighborhood. I don’t get it.

    • GoodNamesAllTaken says:

      I have an acquaintance who is so predictable in her hatred of anything popular with the masses, and in her desperate attempt to be so above it all and hip. She’s a slave to it. What a bore.

      • Snazzy says:

        yes exactly! They become slaves to their own stupidity.

      • bns says:

        Totally. Just like what you want to like.

      • Esmom says:

        Yes, sigh. I know people like that and they can be utterly exhausting. And it’s funny because their alt schtick is completely unoriginal and homogenous within that population.

      • JenniferJustice says:

        Predictable is the word. I work with one. I know when she’s going to diss anything normal before she does. I don’t see it as hipster, alternative or anything other than seeking attention by purposely standing out. I’d have more respect if she just admitted she doesn’t fit in with the normal crowd, or she can’t pull off what the majority seems to so easily, but instead it’s all about putting down normalcy and patting herself on the back for being different. Annoying!

      • Bob Loblaw says:

        And they always have to tell you how much they hate whatever you like. Like I need to know how they feel about Adele or whatever, god, I hate hipsters. Pretentious little weasels.

  5. Mrs. Darcy says:

    I used to live on the LES back in her KIDS heyday. She was everywhere, but generally people I knew who met her thought she was a stuck up cow. Whether it was fellow hipster jealousy who knows. I grew to really like her in Big Love and give her small props for sticking it out in the East Village as long as she has. It really is unrecognizable to what it was, and I kind of get her avoiding hipster Brooklyn (Park Slope is so gentrified it may as well be Connecticut though, more for families than anything), it must be hard out there for a 40ish former village It girl. When I have my little fantasies about moving back I really don’t know where I would go. I couldn’t afford to live anywhere I once did, I would probably end up in Staten Island or some other socially awkward place requiring ferries or underwater tunnels. Sigh. It’s a sad fact of NY, once you leave, you can almost never go back.

    • Mrs. Darcy says:

      Also Amazon Prime is pretty good imo, it includes free one day Amazon shipping and Kindle library so it’s actually decent value and has more new films than Netflix, and a decent t.v. selection (haven’t run out of anything to watch in a couple of months anyway).I can’t get Netflix on my t.v. because they have this b.s. setup in the U.K. where they haven’t enabled it for t.v.’s that are like two years old or less, so annoying. (I would have to buy an xbox or blu ray or somesuch to get it I think) I watched one pilot so far, Hand Of God, pretty good and Garrett Dillahunt is always amazing. Planning on watching the Whit Stillman with Chloe of course, even though Whit Stillman without Chris Eigeman (<3) is like crackers without cheese, hence why Damsels in Distress was such a disaster.

  6. Nev says:

    yep, she is fabulous.

  7. s says:

    I love that she’s just walked to the beat of her own drum and isn’t shoving instagram selfies with her kid/The Honest Company/GOOP/Preserve/whatever the name of Reese Witherspoon’s latest lifestyle venture is down our throats. Breathe of fresh air.

    • RobN says:

      No, her schtick is that she’s too cool for any of that, which is just as annoying if you’re having to constantly tell people about it.

  8. doofus says:

    I want to like her, but she seems to try SO HARD to be hipster. doesn’t seem authentic, even tho I know she was a hipster before “hipster” was a thing. I guess it’s because she seems like one of those people who has to make it known that she “was into it before everyone else was”, whatever “it” may be.

    • TheOriginalKitten says:

      See, it’s the opposite for me. I’ve never seen try-hard with her at all.

      It’s too bad that “hipster” had become a caricature, and archetype, because I have friends who are a lot like Chloe- observant, modish, creative, articulate, and yes, slightly acrid.
      It’s not an affectation, they just really don’t like all the sh*t everyone else does and they have their own distinct style that seems weird, yet somehow works. I don’t know…I’d take Chloe over the Katy Perrys or the Kim Kardashians of the world, PBR-drinking hipsterness and all.

      • Tara says:

        Yeah, I’ve been accused of trying to set myself apart by simply stating an opinion that does match everyone else’s. It gets tiring on both sides.

      • Bob Loblaw says:

        To me a hipster, is a pretender, I think Chloe is authentic, I don’t think of her as a hipster. The ones I have known are very concerned with how you perceive them, they want you to think they’re the coolest, the most urban, not just modern but post-modern and above it all; pretentious little weasels in skinny jeans.

  9. TX says:

    Bros ruin everything, Chloe. They’ve ruined LA and they’re finally invading NYC. Gods speed to New Yorkers who have to live through it.

    • Bella bella says:

      In the East Village, it is NYU that ruined everything. They have gobbled up block by block relentlessly. That’s where all the bros have come from. I lived there in the early 80s, and even then we watched the demise of the old Ukrainian and Jewish restaurants and cultural organizations. I remember the first NYU dorm that crossed the Bowery. That’s when we knew it was time to hightail it outta there.

  10. Birdix says:

    I left the East Village when she was moving in–she even looked at my apartment when it was for sale. The changes she talks about in the neighborhood are so incredible–starting with the high rise in Astor place, and the total transformation of the Bowery. On my block, the clothing store religious sex is an upscale restaurant, instead of the little falafel places there’s a chipotle, and the decrepit site of Andy warhol’s factory is a little strip mall. It’s wild. A funny thing–Matt Damon used to live around the corner–he left about when Chloe and the other hipsters moved in and the neighborhood “went to the jocks.”

    • Mrs. Darcy says:

      A fecking Chipotle? Ouch! I lived on Ludlow St. in 95/96, then onto Hell’s Kitchen (um “Clinton”), and finally Greenpoint, before it became a Girls hipster postcard. I haven’t been back in about 5 yrs but have a feeling it would be even more jaw dropping. I loved the LES in the mid 90′s, I know even by that point it was becoming hipster but it still had character, there were still plenty of Mom and Pop shops that were mostly all gone the last time I went. Sad.

      • Bella bella says:

        Now I feel old. I left NYC in ’91 for upstate, feeling then like downtown had already “turned”! It was funny to suddenly become one of the hated Bridge and Tunnel People.

  11. Talie says:

    You can watch the pilot for free on Amazon for now. it’s really good

  12. hindulovegod says:

    She moved from a very expensive, long-ago gentrified neighborhood in Manhattan to the same, only in Brooklyn. Of course she is surrounded by monied, hipster douches. There are no frat boys on the 7, honey.

  13. tabasco says:

    I realize the term “douchebag” is generally reserved for men, but she is a douchebag. I just moved back to my hometown after 12 years in NYC, including 2 in Park Slope. I got love for Park Slope. I agree that part of NYC has turned into a frat house and that part is 2nd avenue in the 70s and 80s, which is the miracle mile of douchey sports bars that draw college kids – literal frat boys. The rest is this chick being SO pretentious and up her ass that she’s actually BEING the totally obnoxiuos hipster that she’s decrying. Basically, shut up Chloe. Leave New York then – no one will miss you!

    • Mrs. Darcy says:

      That area (UES 70′s etc) was the same post college frat boy/sorority girl living area when I lived downtown 20 yrs ago. We would occasionally get mainstream types slumming it in our dingy bars but not often, I imagine a lot more venture there now to buy an American Apparel t-shirt, eat a cronut and then head back uptown. The last time I visited LES a few yrs ago was full of poseur-y Moby types but not really fratty per se. I’m surprised she doesn’t just move to Portland or something if she can’t face the unbearable-ness of NY.

  14. Sarah says:

    I have never understood why she is a “thing.” A fashionista? She is not attractive and always looks bored or irritated or smug. I also don’t get why Cara is a supermodel because she just looks like an angry toddler all the time. Clearly, I am not one to understand these things.

    • bettyrose says:

      She comes from money and already had an in with the fashionable crowd when she moved to NYC. She is the epitome of all the things she claims to be too cool for.

    • siri says:

      I wonder about the same thing. I got the feeling she is really trying hard to be ‘avantgarde’, but all I can see is her slightly smug, bored face, and that makes her very unappealing. And Cara most of the time looks as if she was forced to be a model against her will…

  15. OhDear says:

    You know the rent is too damn high if even someone like Chloe Sevigny thinks prices are too high.

  16. Maddict says:

    Hey Chloe, if you want the dorkiest, hokiest neighborhood come to Queens we’d love to have you!

  17. escondista says:

    Ohhhh chloe you’re so authentic. Please show the rest of us how to live just like you.
    You bring all of your money to an area and then get pissed about its gentrification. You’re a spoiled hypocrite and one of the main reasons that the very people you hate move to your neighborhood.

  18. Jayna says:

    I will always love her because of Big Love and because she is a die-hard Depeche Mode fan and has been since her early teens. She even interviewed Dave Gahan for Interview Magazine.

  19. bettyrose says:

    You know what Chloe? Trust fund brats (I.e. you) shouldn’t throw stones. You never struggled and you were never an outcast.

  20. Pager90 says:

    I love her, she’s a great actress. I hope she gets her due on day with awards.

    • TheOriginalKitten says:

      Me too. She has talent. Surprised at all the hate. No wonder my “hipster” friends feel so misunderstood ;)

      • bettyrose says:

        Your friends should move to California and bask in hipster paradise. ;) I don’t consider Chloe a real hipster but I generally approve of hipster values: more craft beer, less meat. Also they tend to support local businesses and not get caught up in prescribed gender roles, just like us new wave club kids back in the day. Only there’s waaay more of them than there were of us.

      • TheOriginalKitten says:

        But the California climate isn’t conducive to the blazer-over-t-shirt look!

        “I generally approve of hipster values: more craft beer, less meat. Also they tend to support local businesses and not get caught up in prescribed gender roles”

        Exactly. I probably eat too much steak to be considered a hipster, plus I don’t think it’s very hipster-ish to work in insurance, but I have fondness for hipsters.
        I appreciate their misanthropic nature and I like that they generally shun pop culture and tend to see the irony in modern-day society.

      • bettyrose says:

        You know what? If I could edit that I would take back saying she’s not a real hipster. Not my place to make that call. I think she’s always had a huge safety net, though, and I thought her high strung bit on Big Love wore out after about 3 seasons. I felt like the character evolved but the actress didn’t.

      • Tiffany :) says:

        “more craft beer, less meat. Also they tend to support local businesses and not get caught up in prescribed gender roles,”

        …O.M.G. Am I a hipster with a less tragic wardrobe? I never knew!

      • bettyrose says:

        LOL, Tiff. Hipsters didn’t invent any of those ideas, but since they tend to support them en masse, I’ve chosen to overlook their lesser qualities…like grown men wearing my junior high skinny jeans.

      • Tiffany :) says:

        I hear ya, I can’t handle men in skinny jeans! I also don’t the hipster trend of neck beards and untamed facial hair. Facial hair is great, as long as it is maintained!

    • Pager90 says:

      I loved her in BIG LOVE, I felt she and Bill character were the two most exciting people on the show. Chloe played the role to perfection, that’s when I could see what a great actress she had grown into.

      I like her off beat kind of personality and her hipster vibe. But it’s true she always had a huge safety net, She is from wealth ,she s actually descendant from Aristocracy and french royalty.

      I just wish Chloe would start getting into bigger movie roles and branch out into a box office film more often, as well as staying in her Independent and art house movies, only because I think she needs even more recognition for her work. She’s a excellent actress.

      It was interesting the breakout star from Big Love became Amanda Siegfried ,I wonder how Chloe felt about that? Amanda ended up getting more movie work than She did from the show.

  21. JB11322 says:

    Never posted before, but SHE is such an insufferable, try hard, pseudo – hip, pseudo intellectual hack, I just had to vent. Really, Chole, NYC and Brooklyn, for that matter, is dying a slow creative, cultural death because of gentrifying, snobby ass, fashionistas, like you. Frat boys don’t bother me, NYU buying up the west village does. Please already, what moron looks to move into the “unhip” part of Brooklyn (why a derpy hipster, of course!) and ends up choosing Park Slope? Give me realness and tell me you moved to Brownsville.

    • Bella bella says:

      I remember when NYU made its first land grab (beyond its then established dorms) on 4th between Waverly and Broadway. Who knew what it would lead to. Big sigh!

  22. Longhorn says:

    Chloe cracks me up! I don’talways agree with what she says, but it is always entertaining.

  23. Lucy says:

    Hm, I like her.

  24. Lydia says:

    Which neighborhood in Brooklyn has the most celeb residents? Where does Anne Hathaway live, for example? Just curious.

    • Bella bella says:

      I’d say Park Slope. Michelle Williams, Jennifer Connelly… I believe Sarah Jessica Parker and Matthew Broderick just bought side by side buildings and are renovating them into one. God knows who else. Definitely the Land of Strollers.

  25. I generally like her, but this NY hipster crap is TIRED. Park Slope is full of people who throw hipster shade under a thin veil of self-deprecation. She’ll fit right in. Start your food co-op stopwatches now…

  26. Chris says:

    I liked The Brown Bunny. But I like contemplative cinema. It makes a nice change from the hyperbolic films that come out of Hollywood.

  27. Mahesha says:

    I live in Park Slope (about a year now) and it is extremely dorky- but that’s what I love about it. We just had a baby and I had to finally hang up my party girl shoes and settle down in a nice part of the city. Now I wear Birkenstocks and work at the Co-op (with Maggie Gyllenhall and Gabbie Hoffman lol!)
    I used to run in the same party circuit as Chloe and Rosario WAY back in the day- before Kids and the irony that everyone is growing up and moving to the “Connecticut of Brooklyn” is hilarious… I’ll take it any day of the week over Greenpoint or Williamsburg. I love the quiet and how close we are to Prospect Park, really chill and corny. I guess that’s what happens when you grow up and settle down.

  28. kim says:

    it’s so disparaging.” i do not think that word means what she thinks it means.

  29. Moi says:

    Same with Austin. It’s frustrating. A lot of people want to move to the “cool, hip” place, then…they ruin the vibe.