Lorde: ‘People know that if you talk down to me, I will roll my eyes or whatever’

ELLE Oct 14 Cover Lorde

Oh, nice! Lorde covers the October issue of Elle, and it’s actually a really great cover shoot. A year ago, Lorde probably would have been too authentic and “real” to actually allow herself to be styled like a model for a major fashion magazine, but we all grow up sometimes. She’s actually a really great model! Great face, great posing, and her makeup is exceptionally good here. You can see that’s she quite attractive underneath all of that nouveau goth nonsense. The issue drops nationally on September 23rd – you can read Elle’s early excerpt here. Some highlights:

Lorde on keeping it real: “A lot of times when people meet me, they’ll definitely try to make me feel young or inexperienced. Like, ‘It’s all taken care of’. Teenagers are such a discerning group of people. They’ll immediately sniff out anything that feels contrived. I’m, like, constantly scanning myself to see if I’m some corporate executive version of a teenager. I’ve developed something of a fearsome reputation. People know that if you talk down to me, I will roll my eyes or whatever.”

On self-constructing her persona: “It’s something people my age have grown up with. You can go on the Tumblr of any young person in the world and see people marketing themselves. Everyone my age is like that now. We’re all hyperaware of how we’re being seen.”

On the upside of being known for expressing her opinions: “People have told me that I’ve helped them feel confident, like they can say things they want to say. They can talk about feminism in class without people calling them a lesbian. That’s so amazing that I can make someone feel like that.”

Figuring out to navigate everything: “It’s very specific. I have definitely learned how to be flexible. Before, I would just be like, ‘F–k it.’ I have such a strong idea of what is cool and great for me. If I think something is s–t, I express that. But now the circle of people I work with all the time is huge and spans continents, and you have to be quite conscientious. So it’s, like, learning not to hurt people’s feelings. Obviously, I am hanging out with more people now who are not teenage; I’m in different circles. But I am a teenager. My brain is, like, a certain age. Everyone is talking about you. You have to learn not to care as much.”

[From ELLE]

Her “keeping it real” quotes are the best part. Ah, remember what it was like to be a teenager? Remember that feeling of invincibility, that you were the most important person in the world and no one could ever understand how special and unique and amazing you were? Yeah. And if people would talk down to you or patronize you, you would just “roll your eyes or whatever” and they would totally, like, KNOW that you were on to them. “Teenagers are such a discerning group of people. They’ll immediately sniff out anything that feels contrived.” Au contraire!!! You know what’s being marketed to teenagers? Miley Cyrus. Ariana Grande. One Direction. All of whom do not have a contrived bone in their bodies, right?

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Photos courtesy of Thomas Whiteside for ELLE.

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  1. Pager90 says:

    Like her.

  2. bettyrose says:

    We’re hair twins, so she can do no wrong in my eyes. That’s all.

    • doofus says:

      damn, you are a lucky lady…I think her hair is gorgeous. she’s really a pretty girl.

      sorry, “young lady”. I’m sure she hates being called a girl…lol.

      re: what’s being marketed to teens vs. what they buy and/or stick with…yeah, that stuff is definitely marketed to teens, and the younger teens buy into it because they’re not as discerning, but I think what she says is kind of true. once you hit 14 or 15, you start to realize that those manufactured pop groups or pop “tarts” are just that…manufactured. and what they’ll stick with, long term, are NOT those manufactured groups or crap like Bieber.

      • bettyrose says:

        Most days I love it and it ties back easily on the rest, but I spent the entire decade of the 00s having to kill every idiot who asked why I didn’t straighten it. My lethal glare is now perfected.

      • doofus says:

        hahaha…I have curly hair too, but I wear mine short as I cannot be bothered to tame it if it were long, so I give you props for that. I used to hate my curls as my BFF from high school had long super straight almost black hair that she wore down to her butt. of course, I wanted her hair and she wanted mine. I’ve learned to love my curls and realize that people go through all sorts of harsh chemical treatments to get them.

      • Charlie says:

        But very very few music acts, or actors or virtually anybody in the spotlight today isn’t manufactured. Some just have better PR so they feel more authentic.

      • doofus says:

        Charlie, I don’t consider the Black Keys, Foster the People, Cage the Elephant, Bastille, Hozier, Kongos or a lot of music I hear on the radio to be “manufactured”. There’s a lot of good authentic “rock bands” out there.

    • Frida_K says:

      Hair triplets, my friend!

      I have the same hair, just a little bit curlier and slightly more abundant. Fortunately, I have ALWAYS loved my hair so I’ve never tried to straighten it. Every now and again, I will get a blowout just for fun and then it will be straight for a few hours before it starts slowly, inexorably returning to its normal state. Which is fine. Straight hair is nice to try for a short time every now and again but it’s not natural to me at all.

      Hooray for wild hair!!

      😀

      • Erinn says:

        🙁 I’m jealous. I have tiny ass hair. Baby fine, and it only picks up any kind of texture if I scrunch it up a bit when it’s wet and then let it dry. Even then, the texture is short lived.

      • Lady Macbeth says:

        @Erinn

        Same here 🙁

      • Petrichor says:

        Wah! Add me to the tiny hair club. 🙁

        My maternal grandmother’s hair was so thin you could see her scalp by the time she was in her early 70s. I am so afraid I have that in my future!

    • Tiffany :) says:

      I’m a curly girl too! My hair used to be around her length for a long time, but right now its about shoulder length. When I was growing up, the hair stylists in the area had no idea what to do with my hair. My mom’s hair is completely straight, so she didn’t know what to do with it either.

      It has been a trial and error process my whole life, and I feel so bonded to my hair.

  3. AntiSocialButterfly says:

    I cannot wait for her to reread these interviews ten years from now and roll her eyes at herself. Or whatever.
    That said, I do like her music, and the fact that she is becoming a bit more malleable as she matures. Just lovely photos.

  4. Arhodo says:

    Love her hair!

  5. Irishserra says:

    Yeah, she sounds like your typical 17-year-old. But she’s adorable nonetheless and I like a few of her songs.

  6. Kaya says:

    She’s not as full of teenage self-righteousness as you’re making it out to be, but her comments are pretty legitimate. I remember being a teenager, and thinking, “What? Do these people think I’m stupid?” People do look down on teenagers (as you clearly are!). Being older, and seeing teenagers from an adult’s eyes, I feel like it’s that age where a lot of adults feel like teenagers know that adults don’t know everything and aren’t always right, and then try to trivialize young peoples’ opinions.

    • Petrichor says:

      I agree, Kaya, and said more or less the same below.

    • Esmom says:

      ITA. She seems pretty self aware and mature, especially when you contrast her with someone like Miley. And she looks beautiful here.

    • bettyrose says:

      I agree. She says intelligent things and clearly has some perspective on pending adulthood – I.e. she doesn’t scoff at feminism while marketing herself as a sex object, like the clueless twits who think 30 will never happen to them. She sounds like a teenager but one with real potential to mature normally and do interesting things. And gawd I hated being patronized by adults at her age.

    • Diana B says:

      And she acknowledges at the same time that she is in fact aware she has a teenager brain. Girl knows what’s up.

    • Sozual says:

      Agree Kaya!

  7. TX says:

    This is hilarious!! I totally love her so this is not meant to be snarky at all, but it is so funny to read these quotes and think back to when I was a teen and thought I knew everything. I hope she’ll look back at this one day when she’s 30 and laugh and laugh!

    • Dingo says:

      This. It is so cute. I actually watched the MTV awards. They had these celeb cameras. And one was on her, Taylor Swift and Lorde’s sister. It was so funny. While Taylor was being nice speaking to Lorde’s sister. Lorde became kind of jealous of her sister speaking to Taylor and wanted to change seats so she was next to Taylor.

  8. Petrichor says:

    I agree, the cover shot in particular is quite beautiful. I don’t like what she’s wearing, but I can’t stop looking at her face.

    I came into this kind of wanting to hate on her comments, like Kaiser does with the “contrived” bit, but I just can’t. I think she actually sounds pretty self-aware for a teenager.

    Like you said, Kaiser, she is allowed to grow up, and I’m sure as she does she’ll roll her eyes at her own past self a few times.

    • HH says:

      The pictures are lovely, but I don’t see anything but her standard facial express. It’s just that she isn’t wearing her goth makeup.

      I like Lordw, but her interviews never do it for me. I think it has to do with the overload of celebrities who are trying to be intellectual now, like everything is all about deeper meaning. Oh well. I’ll go read an interview from Lauren Conrad. That should bring me back equilibrium. 😉

      • Petrichor says:

        I do hate a pseudo-intellectual celebrity, and that’s why I was expecting to dislike the interview, because I usually get that vibe from her. But I don’t know, I thought these answers seemed pretty honest and less try-hard than what we usually get from her.

        Like I said, maybe she’s just growing up!

  9. Angelique says:

    If you think her music is great, just wait until you hear Broods’! They’re the next big thing out of New Zealand and share Ella’s (“Lorde’s”) producer, Joel Little.

    🙂

  10. M.A.F. says:

    “nouveau goth”-that is a thing?

  11. amanda says:

    I feel like if you’re in the business she’s in, you can’t help but be contrived. The music isn’t about the music and the real person behind it that you want to know anymore (I think of artists like Bob Dylan and Led Zeppelin, they did interviews and answered questions, but for the most part, you had to be there, at a show, to see the drama, or hear through the grapevine or just imagine what their private lives were really like and how their artistic process worked.

    They were enigmas, mysterious and untouchable, private and talented, and I think that helped make their music so good and in demand. Fans wanted to be their friend, but not a lot of them actually were.)

    Today, its more about the contrived persona that fans feels like they know and choose to believe is real, fans want to feel (and do feel) like they’re real friends with these people, they know too much about the artists personal life, so the music is second to the persona and the fake, pretty, never-met-you, friend-vibe that stars give away with social media and over-sharing personal lives.

    also, it disturbs me that she says: “It’s something people my age have grown up with. You can go on the Tumblr of any young person in the world and see people marketing themselves. Everyone my age is like that now. We’re all hyperaware of how we’re being seen.”

    teens are selling themselves to each other? We can’t just be, and make friends for who we are, not who we want people to think we are? It’s harder to curate who we are when we’re in person b/c our true selves will come out eventually.

    But the internet is a veil that we don’t have to take off, until we try meeting people in person, and you realize you’ve both been fibbing about who you really are, and you have nothing in common in reality (my personal opinion).

    that sounds sad and dangerous to me. sell who you WANT people to believe you are and then make sure you live up to it, even if it isn’t really you. Being a teen is hard enough, but to add that unnecessary pressure onto yourself? ouch.

    Can you tell being a teen wasn’t easy for me and I stress about teens in 2014? I have a 17 year old sister and I just worry, worry, worry. LOL

    • Esmom says:

      I have two teenage sons and I worry a ton about them, too. Teens are definitely selling themselves to each other, as I think they always have to a certain degree but technology has taken it to a whole new level.

      For us, keeping social media to a minimum helps a lot in as I try to guide them toward staying true to themselves. As with most things, I think balance is key. My one son especially realizes it’s so easy to get lost in an online world/persona that we have to force him to step away sometimes.

      • amanda says:

        I agree. Balance is key, but balance is hard for teens (if i remember correctly), so parent involvement, I think, is very important. I feel happy that my parents did not allow my sister to sign up for facebook when her friends started doing it years ago, and now that shes 17, she has a tumblr dedicated to her love of horses, but has no desire to have a facebook at this point.

        thank goodness.

  12. smcollins says:

    I’m not overly familiar with her. I’ve only heard a few of her songs but I liked them. She definitely comes across as a teenager, but in a good way. It doesn’t seem like she’s trying to be/sound like an adult. She seems pretty grounded and self-aware, which is kind of rare for a teenager. And I agree that she’s a very pretty girl. She reminds me of a young Amy Irving.

  13. Hannah says:

    Love her, love her music, but I seriously can’t get over how much she reminds me of a Kick Inside-era Kate Bush (maybe it’s just the hair…). I mean, she’s just as pretentious, but less in a fairy wood sprite way and more in a “Reality Bites” way.

  14. kri says:

    I adore this girl-even the “eye roll” comment. Oh, to be that young again. I will say, in some ways I was much more sure of myself. She look so glorious here. Her looks are the kind I love-so unique. I am curious to watch her career unfold.

  15. OhDear says:

    I think her public image is just as contrived as that of Miley Cyrus or Ariana Grande. It’s just that people don’t think that the anti-Cyrus/Grande types can be contrived, too.

  16. BendyWindy says:

    I think Lorde’s problem is not realizing that SHE is contrived. I mean, obviously she’s a person, but she’s also a product. She’s Miley Cyrus in different clothing, similar to how Avril Lavigne was the “anti-Britney.” No. You’re coming out of the same pop culture machine, you’ve just got different packaging.

  17. flutters says:

    I enjoy Lorde, she seems to be transitioning out of that crazy 1st phase of intense hype with intelligence and grace. I also detect no lies in that interview – she admits her persona is self-constructed and that she’s marketing that persona but she also connects it to the Tumblr generation and sees it as a typical teenager thing. Between Facebook (especially Facebook), Tumblr, and Twitter, a lot of people do get caught up in life as performance art. It’s not completely healthy but I don’t think Lorde’s arguing that it is. She seems to recognize the cost of “performing” for so many people and she also seems to accept that cost for now.

    • 237 says:

      Yes, I dont have a daughter but I would love her to listen to Lorde any day over miley, biebs, ariana, whatshername. Its nice to know that artist like lorde are still happening between all these sexed up ‘idols’

  18. We Are All Made of Stars says:

    Yup- 1D, Ariana Grande, and Miley Cyrus are marketed to teens. And do you know what’s marketed to adults? Gwyneth, lipo, and Anganniston JoPitt. Not that much room to judge, really.

  19. Scarlet Vixen says:

    Sorry, but what everyone else is calling ‘self-aware’ just sounds like pretentious snot to me. Maybe because I didn’t really go through that teenager-who-thinks-they-know-everything phase (no really, I swear–my mom still thanks me & I’m 35). As a teenager I knew I didn’t know sh*t about the real world and teens who did think that way annoyed me then, and annoy me now.

  20. Lucy says:

    She’s wonderful, that’s all.

  21. MourningTheDeathOfMusic says:

    Good lord…. (pun!)
    I can’t. I simply can’t with this little girl.

  22. Dany says:

    she is as manufactured as Lana Del Rey