Joe Giudice on why they didn’t pay $200k court restitution: ‘I don’t know, whatever’

I had the chance to see part two last night of Teresa and Joe Giudice’s very special post-sentencing Watch What Happens Live. I have to give Andy Cohen credit for asking hard questions. He didn’t follow up much when Joe and Teresa recited their standard lies, but he asked hard questions. Teresa probably had some pharmaceutical help getting through the interview but she came across as more coherent than Joe, which truly isn’t saying much. Joe mumbled and shrugged through the interview, seeming like he was drunk and/or drugged out of his mind. The interview supported this, with Joe admitting he drank at least two bottles of wine a night or took Xanax to get to sleep. Teresa kept repeating that Joe “has to be there for my daughters,” but it was more about how he was going to care for them when she was away in prison. Teresa didn’t seem to make the connection that Joe was too inebriated on a daily basis to wipe his own ass, nonetheless look after four little girls. She downplayed his alcoholism, insisting that he only drank at night. Teresa is going to stick by Joe despite the fact that he’s a thug and an idiot. She is not one to cut her losses. She’s also not one to pay attention to any of the details regarding her finances. She has other people to do that.

Here’s some of what Teresa and Joe said. I’ve tried to cut it down but it’s still pretty long:

On if everything on RHONJ was scripted
Flipping the table I did. My family coming on the show… [it’s] not that I didn’t want them, they didn’t tell me they were coming on the show. I didn’t like the way I was portrayed… this mean person, the villain.

On her “nice” personality this season
That’s the real Teresa. I have grown from season one. I’m not going to let people provoke me. I’m not going to lose my temper.

On why she stayed on the show after her charges
Everything I do, I do for my daughters. I want them to have a good life.

On if she still blames the show for her troubles
Joe: I don’t blame anybody
Teresa: I take responsibility, you know.

On if she thinks she would be going to jail if it wasn’t for RHONJ
I’m not going to answer that. I don’t feel comfortable answering that.

On why they failed to list assets in statements required by the court
I wasn’t aware that we needed to put all that information down… I wish our accountant would have come to our house and walked through our house and then filled out the paperwork. I didn’t know.
Joe: I hand walked the probation guy through our house. It’s not like I was hiding anything.

On why they only listed $25,000 in furnishings
How Joe came up with the $25,000… [they argue briefly over who will speak]
Joe: Me and the account came up with… four years later if it was appraised at 50 or 60 thousand what could it be worth today? Half right? Nobody is gonna want a used bed.

On why she listed her jewelry as worth nothing
[My lawyer] got up during court and said I did tell him, you need to list my engagement ring and wedding band. Joe has a Rolex, Joe has a wedding band. These [earrings] are not real. I wear a lot of costume jewelry.

On why they failed to pay the court the $200,000 restitution they owed
Teresa: First of all we didn’t have the money
Joe: I had it set up and I don’t know what happened. It was there it just wasn’t. I don’t know, whatever.
Teresa: Can I speak? We didn’t have the money.

On if they considered selling their stuff to raise the money
Joe has an old corvette. We put that on eBay. [Our three homes] are all for sale.

Asks Joe if he’s worried about being deported
I’m going to worry about that when the time comes… It’s not such a bad thing. [To live in Italy with his family]

Teresa on not worrying about the future
I just go day to day.
Joe: There’s no guarantee we’re going to be here in five years.

Asks Joe about his attorney asking the court to send Joe to rehab
Joe: Before you started this Real Housewives stuff I used to drink only on the weekends, now I drink every day. Just wine, I don’t drink anything else really… I might have a little problem, I’m not going to lie. A night I could easily do 2-3 bottles, 4 bottles you know with another person… one bottle’s like sucking a bottle of milk. It’s nothing… It does help me sleep. It’s either that or I gotta take a pill.

I don’t have a problem to where that’s all I think about is drinking though. I take care of business during the day then at night I’ll have a few bottles of wine after dinner. My kids are usually in bed by then. Either that or I’ve gotta take a Xanax.

On if Teresa’s family will help when she’s in prison
I want my husband to be there for my daughters. What breaks my heart is that I don’t want to be away from my dad, because my dad is always in and out of the hospital… after what happened with Joe’s dad… All I want is my brother to be there for my parents and I want Joe to be Mr. Mom. He has to be there for my daughters.

On if she has resentment for her husband for putting her in this position
I don’t think he meant to hurt me in any way. I think it’s a learning lesson for both of us. Since yesterday he’s been feeling bad and keeps coming up to me and hugging me.

Joe on if he feels guilty for Teresa ending up in prison
I do but at the same time what am I going to do? I did everything I could to get her out of it but it didn’t work.

On how it feels to know that Teresa is a convicted felon facing prison
Obviously not good I mean definitely not good. [To Teresa] I just want to apologize that I got you into this mess. I don’t even know what else to say. If I could take it all back I will, but I just can’t and I’m sorry you have to go through all this. I did everything I could to convince the judge, but I had no control over that.

Teresa: I love you [kisses him] You’ve gotta be there for my daughters for our daughters. I want to apologize for the people I let down and I want to say I’m deeply sorry.

[From Watch What Happens Live, 10-9-14]

Both Joe and Teresa cried separately during the interview. Joe started crying silently when he talked about his dad’s death this June and Teresa cried when she talked about her own dad’s poor health. It’s sad that Joe’s dad died, but that doesn’t excuse his addiction. Notice how much he downplayed his drinking and how he practically blamed Teresa for it. “Before you started this Real Housewives stuff I used to drink only on the weekends.” His apology to Teresa was weak and laughable, he barely could string a sentence together, and yet Teresa ate it up.

Joe faces even more time during a sentencing hearing on October 15 for a completely separate charge, obtaining a driver’s license under his brother’s name when his own license was suspended for a DUI. Andy asked about that but Teresa kept telling Joe he couldn’t talk about it. The only good thing to come out of this interview is that Teresa said that both of them have family nearby to help with the kids. If it’s just drunk idiot Joe taking care of those girls it’s going to be a disaster. Who am I kidding there are probably going to be camera crews there at least some of the time. That worked out great for the Gosselins.


Joe and Teresa Gudice sentencing day

Joe and Teresa Gudice sentencing day

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  1. Kim says:

    People are saying they are in deep denial. I don’t agree. They are not in denial they are pathological liars. It’s big difference.

    • Pepinsky says:


    • GoodNamesAllTaken says:

      I agree. I think he said it all about their attitude – “whatever.” They only care that they were punished.

    • Laura taylor says:

      love it

    • (Original, not CDAN) Violet says:


      Moreover, they don’t seem to realize they’re getting off lightly. Why Joe isn’t being deported is a mystery to me.

      Their poor kids.

      • anne_000 says:

        Joe might still be deported but the government is going to make him serve his prison sentence first.

      • (Original, not CDAN) Violet says:


        That seems like a backwards approach to me — after all, why not let Italy be responsible for incarcerating this guy! — but I’m glad to hear deportation is still a possibility.

  2. Tracy says:

    Good luck to those girls. They are going to need it.

  3. QQ says:

    This guy is THEE worst

  4. Greg says:

    They are only sorry that they got caught, not that they broke the law.

  5. Ash says:

    I do have a soft spot for them. people commit harsher crimes and get lesser sentences. not only are they paying the consequences so are their little girls whose lives are forever changed and the rest of the family. I just don’t think they deserved to both go away.

    • Jenns says:

      They ripped off a lot of people by not paying their bills. This was not a one time mistake, this has been going on for years. And even up until the sentencing they continued to hide their assets and when the judge caught them, they blamed everyone else. They have no one to blame but themselves.

      Teresa should’ve done everything she could to make sure that she wasn’t going to do time so she could be there for her girls. And she would’ve avoided jail is she was honest.

      • Tracy says:

        Agree with you Jenn. These two are crooks and would have continued their crooked ways if they had not been caught.

        They need to apologize to their daughters for how much hurt they have and will cause them in the future.

    • GoodNamesAllTaken says:

      Were they thinking of their children while committing fraud out of nothing but pure greed? I feel sorry for their children, but it think these two are getting exactly what they deserve.

    • lucy2 says:

      And there are people who commit lesser crimes and get harsher sentences. They both knowingly committed crimes and thought they’d get away with it, so they both have to pay. Their kids are going to suffer for it, but that’s on their parents, not the system.

    • anne_000 says:

      They racked up a lot of bills with small business owners, not just banks and mortgage lenders, and did whatever they could not to pay them back, including filing bankruptcy (which failed).

      The only people who did this to their kids is themselves. They could have lived within their means, legally, and tolerated living a middle class existence but they chose not to and took their daughters along for this hellish ride.

      Also, iirc, they had their youngest daughter through costly fertility treatments. Where did this money come from when they were already in millions of dollars in debt? So at the time, they used more money to bring in another kid after they had already committed the crimes for which they could go to jail (and now will). That’s irresponsible.

  6. J says:

    The amount of times they say “I don’t know” or blow off the seriousness of their situation…they are liars or complete idiots. How did she not make sure she understood everything she could about the legal situation she was in? She did not understand the plea deal would include jail?! Their daughters are so screwed and that is the saddest part of all.

  7. joy says:

    They will go right back to living beyond their means when this is all over.

  8. Ginger says:

    UGH! What a mess! Those poor kids.

  9. Jess says:

    I don’t understand why they still own 3 homes and multiple cars etc, and when I’m broke I don’t go out and buy bottles of wine every night, these two are so delusional and I bet even prison won’t teach them a lesson. So far gone in their lies that they believe them! Makes me sick that they only got a few years and they’ve been living a life a luxury for over a decade.

    • FingerBinger says:

      The government will most likely seize those homes and cars and anything else worth more than two bucks.

    • lucy2 says:

      Their “beach house” is in my old neighborhood, it’s been for sale for only a month (listed after the busy summer season here for some reason). It’s asking for $35K less than they paid for it, so if it sells, it will surely be at a loss, and I actually think it’s overpriced as listed. It’s got major issues regarding the flood codes, and there’s much better stuff for sale all around it for less.

      • Bridget says:

        Their regular home is also completely under water too, which is why they’ve been allowed to stay in it and sell it instead of yhe government outright seizing. Supposedly they’re going to have a hard time selling that, because from what I’ve seen online they’re way overpriced and in an undesirable location.

      • anne_000 says:

        And Joe said the boat at the shore house is included in the price of the house.

    • anne_000 says:

      They have their own wine brands. I think each of them has their own brand. So basically they bought a whole bunch of wine previously and seemingly Joe’s the biggest consumer of their wines….

  10. Kitten says:

    His comment about wine reminds me of my friend’s 2 year old son who refers to beer as “Daddy’s milk”

    These people suck though. Truly, just terrible, sh*tty human beings.

  11. Sam says:

    So all her gaudy jewelry truly was made of cubonic zirconia and gold plating and LIES???? I knew it!

  12. nk868 says:

    from a legal standpoint i thought they were trying to play up his “alcoholism” hoping when it’s his time for sentencing he might end up in rehab instead of jail, maybe if he has to go to rehab it’s a pressing matter and they’ll switch around who is being sentenced. andy said as much – they were trying to get him in rehab instead of jail. but, then, i think teresa realized how bad that made him seem so she tried to go along with the script but still feed a story about what an amazing dad he is.

    if i remember correctly part of the problem with taking his brothers’ license came after he had a DUI or something? maybe this is a two-fold approach trying to get rehab showing a pattern of substance abuse to make it seem like he deserves to go to rehab

  13. Lucy says:

    These interviews are one of most flagrant cons since Theresa Caputo. It’s all part of the Guidice Redemption tour where Tre is the innocent victim who will dutifully serve her time like the martyr Andy is making her out to be and then return fresh out of the pen to an adoring public to start anew as a cash cow for herself and Bravo.
    Meanwhile Joe is painted as the villain and puppet master due to his alcoholism which will be miraculously cured in prison so he too can emerge as a new man ready to co-star as lovable sidekick with wacky prison tales galore.

    It’s a win win for Andy and the Giudices. Their creditors owed $13 million? Not so much….

    • lucy2 says:

      Pretty sure the judge denied their bankruptcy and is forcing them to pay their debts, plus fines and other costs too. They may earn some money after prison, but there’s a good chance Uncle Sam is going to take all of it. Hopefully.

    • Tracy says:

      There is a very good chance that when Joe gets out he will be deported. Teresa might be able to swindle a show when she gets out but I think Joe is done.

  14. wow says:

    He is scum. And she is crazy to be so loyal to him after he has made such a fool of her throughout the show and throughout their life.

  15. Rhiley says:

    This line: “Since yesterday he’s been feeling bad and keeps coming up to me and hugging me.”

  16. emmie_a says:

    She’s such a moron. She does reality tv so her kids can have a “good life”?? — but she wouldn’t be in this mess if she wasn’t on tv. Great logic. The kids would have GREAT lives if their parents worked normal jobs, were living w/in their means w/out pretending to be rich and stopped lying.

  17. anne_000 says:

    These two are getting on my nerves more and more each day.

    1) It never made any sense to me when she complains about her not being told her brother & cousin were coming on the show when they’ve told her repeatedly examples that show she knew.

    2) On ‘nice’ Teresa, she says she’s provoked into being bad? See? She never admits she herself has provoked a lot of situations. She always thinks she’s perfect and always the victim of somebody else.

    3) She admitted in Part 1 that all this illegal activity happened or started before coming on the show. But then they came on the show and made themselves high-profile. Nobody forced them to be on the show.

    4) They’re blaming the accountant and the probation officer for their not listing all their assets (which influenced the judge to chose from probation to prison time for Teresa) ? Because they themselves didn’t have their lawyers’ phone numbers and didn’t want to write out their own list ? Why should the accountant & probation officer be responsible for coming to their house and filling out the paperwork? They’re not the ones facing jail time.

    5) Imo, they didn’t want to list their assets nor sell them because they kept thinking they might be able to wiggle out of this and not have to sell anything. They only started putting up their two homes including boat and car recently, which I think was around the time of the plea bargain, so basically when it was late and had no other choice.
    I think the total restitution was over $600k for both.

    6) Nobody but Teresa put herself in the position she’s in now. You don’t have to be a lawyer to have a general idea of what you’re signing and that the information is false, including fake W2 forms allegedly. She knew that signing that stuff would get her money and that’s all she wanted.
    Though she says now she would have had a lawyer explain the contracts to her, I doubt she would have if she could go back in time because he would have told her not to sign and she wasn’t about to stop herself from getting money regardless of how she got it.

    7) I’ve heard stories for years how it’s Teresa’s parents (mainly the mother) who are the caretakers of the grandkids. Joe Gorga pays their parent’s rent while Teresa uses them as constant babysitters. In one episode, Teresa said they were building an apartment over the garage for their parents to live in (presumably to make it more convenient for herself when she needs them to watch the kids).
    Also, there’s Joe’s mother who can help watch the kids too. I doubt Joe alone will be the caretaker. One or more of those parents will move in permanently and help with the kids, because Joe can’t help but keep having ‘friends’ nights out with adults including women, imo.
    Also, Joe doesn’t have a driver’s license so he’s going to need someone to help transport the kids to school and other activities.

    • chick b. says:

      Regarding the last comment about Joe’s transportation problem: I live in northern NJ and have seen Joe driving out of the Bottle King parking lot well after he lost his license (I have no idea what model the car was but it was sweet). I assume Joe will continue this practice until he’s actually incarcerated.

      Living in NJ, one thing that boggles my mind is how Joe is still waiting to be sentenced for attempting to scam the DMV. I got my license prior to computerization and even then the NJDMV were notorious ballbusters; screwing with them could really mess you up. Add that with attempting to gain fraudulent ID post-9/11 in this state and I don’t understand how the guy didn’t get immediate jail time.

      Also, I have never known of convicted couples allowed to separate their sentencing periods. There are plenty of children in foster care that can attest to that. Not that I wish more misfortune on the Giudice children, but maybe at least put Joe under house arrest while Theresa is serving her time? As anne stated the grandparents are probably going to be doing all the work anyway; slap an ankle bracelet on Joe and keep him out of the strip clubs until his wife comes home.

      • tarheel says:

        Couples with minor children who are convicted of Federal crimes are routinely allowed to serve staggered sentences, unless it’s for a violent felony, as long as one of the sentences is about two years or so or less. Some state courts do this, too. It IS generally better for the children, and it’s cheaper for the state.

      • anne_000 says:

        If he’s still driving around, I’m wondering if that means he got his own driver’s license back?

        I just read that when he used his brother’s ID to try to get a license, it was while his own was suspended. I wonder if that means his driver’s license became valid again since then? But would the DMV allow it to become valid when they caught him trying to get another one illegally?

  18. lindy loo says:

    I am so over this show and esp these two. Both of them are out and out criminals yet there are still many viewers out there that defend and make excuses for them. It truly boggles my mind.