Entertainment Tonight aired part one of their very special interview with June Shannon of Here Comes Honey Boo Boo last night. As we saw in yesterday’s preview, June continued to deny, downplay and lie about her relationship with the man convicted of molesting her oldest daughter, Anna, when Anna was 8 years old.
I have to hand it to ET’s Brooke Anderson, she really asked some hard-hitting questions and she followed up. Brooke asked the question a lot of people have wondered: was June abused herself and is that why she behaved so horribly toward her daughter? June admitted that her first sexual experience was at age 12, but she denied getting molested or abused. She also said that by the time she was 14 she was dating men in their 20s and 30s and that her mother knew about it. Brooke asked point blank if June’s very early sexual experiences made her less sensitive to what Anna went through at just eight. June struggled to find the right words, and it looked like she wanted to say “no,” but she didn’t say that. She said “I don’t think that my sexual experiences at a young age makes it anything different than what Anna went through.” Her wording was telling, but that could be due more to stupidity than her half-admitting that she was terrible to her own child. The ET anchors concluded that June remained in denial and that she was downplaying how her daughter was abused. June refused to look at the court papers detailing the abuse that occurred and she looked very angry at times. Here’s some of what she said.
“Do you believe your daughter was molested by Mark?”
After everything everybody’s told me and Anna’s told me, I do believe that, you know, something happened.On if she’s read the court documents
I have not.Asks June if she wants to see the court documents
I told Anna not to bring up the past again because I know it’s hard for Anna and it would be hard for me.“Do you not want to know what she went through?”
She has told me what she went through. The reason I don’t want to [look at the court papers] is because it’s like reliving another memory.On seeing Mark
Yes I saw this person twice. I didn’t know how sickly he was. He’s got leukemia, he’s got all this stuff on him, he’s got a rare blood disorder, he’s got all this.On if they talk
We don’t.“But we have pictures of you two together. I have pictures of you looking at a house”
Yes, but. No I’m not holding hands.On if she’ll see Mark again, if she loves him.
No. No.On Pumpkin’s father
I’ll be honest and tell you… Jessica and Pumpkin have the same dad, but Jessica’s dad has had nothing to do with her over the years. So why the hell would I open up that can of worms until today? It is Michael Anthony Ford. I have not had contact with him since ’99. Since then he was caught on To Catch a Predator. He’s doing time for sexual exploitation of minors until 2026.“Have you ever been molested or abused?”
No“When was your first sexual experience?”
12. With somebody I had went to school with. At my parent’s. I had no idea what it was.On getting pregnant at 14.
I was dating men who were in their 20s, their 30s. My mom knew about it. I would kind of lie and say they were 21, 22. When me and Mark started dating I was 20 he was 38. There was [an] 18 years age difference.“Do you think your very early sexual experiences made you less sensitive to how a man could harm your daughter?”
No because I think back then I was honestly just looking for the attention I wasn’t getting at home. I don’t think that my sexual experiences at a young age makes it anything different than what Anna went through.“Do you think you became less sensitive though to your own daughter because you were having sex at age 12?”
You don’t think of somebody you’ve been with for five years would do anything like that honestly.“But you believe your child over a man and you didn’t”
At first because I knew nothing about the situation up until almost two and a half years ago. I knew nothing. Nothing.
[Transcript from ET, aired 11-13-14]
Listen to how much sympathy this woman has toward her daughter’s molester compared to what she said about her own child. She never once said that she felt terrible, that the situation was horrible, that she wishes she never let that creep around her children or that she regrets handling it the way she did. She said that she thinks “something happened,” but that the poor man has leukemia and a blood disorder and “has got all this stuff on him.”
In part two of the interview, airing tomorrow, ET will air the part where they ask June why she ignored what her daughter was going through. June claims that her mother kept her away from the court proceedings. Yet June didn’t want to see the court papers detailing her daughter’s abuse and she looked incredibly angry and resentful when Brooke asked her if she wanted to see them. This person is truly despicable. That’s all I have to say about her. I really can’t focus on it or I go into a rage.
As for whether June will lose custody of her three minor children for her relationship with a child molester, that’s probably unlikely. Radar Online reports that the CPS investigation is going nowhere, predictably. They claim that “Georgia social workers interviewed all three daughters… and came to the conclusion that no one was physically or emotionally harmed by McDaniel, 53.” The bright side is that the guy may not be long for this earth, and I know that is an awful thing to say but much worse things come to mind. Then again, he could be lying to June about his illnesses so that he can get closer to her kids.
Here are the two segments with June that aired on ET last night.
It doesn’t matter if he’s long for the earth — her pattern is clear. She’ll find another man looking to take advantage of her stupidity. She has no compassion for her daughter and she doesn’t even see that she was being abused throughout her childhood. This is so f*cked up and sad.
And poor Honey Boo Boo is probably only a few years away from having her own baby.
not only her stupidity, but also her apparent lack of empathy toward her own children.
It’s all about her. Not helping her daughter heal. Only about how bringing it up would hurt her. And wow. So sympathetic to the man who victimized Anna.
This woman makes me sick. To elaborate wouldn’t make it by moderation.
I once knew a family that lived on the other side of the tracks (literally), and the girl I used to hang out with found out when she was 10 that her sister was her mother. The woman that raised her was her grandmother. My friend knew her sister was her “mom” but throughout the years just kept up the charade. Well, fast forward a few years later and while at a girls night out she sees her “mom” sitting on a barstool at the local bar, three sheets to the wind and trolling. Friend hadn’t seen her in a few years and approched her to say hello, mebbe buy her a drink, she was just happy to see her. Her “mother” was chatting with some guy and when friend showed up she turned to her and quietly said “fuck off, leave me alone, right now”
All this to say this is what I think of this story. June sees her eldest daughter as a rival.
How do I word this nicely….is this woman a tad touched in the head? You stand by your kids period, I’ve told my hubby when it comes to my girls…if I ever found out someone abused them or touched them inappropriately, pull me off that person and call the lawyer because I will be needing one ..this woman is nuts!!
I worked in mental health for a long time. Her mentality is far more common than the whole “that’s my kid and I will do whatever to protect them” ideal we imagine. Most women say things like let’s move on, that’s all in the past, let it go, you’re destroying our family, he didn’t mean it, he’s sorry, you’re just jealous and want my husband, and my personal favorite “he didn’t rape you he just molested you.” Yes, I’ve heard all that crap with my own ears. And yes it took all my willpower not to choke them every time.
jesus. that’s horrific.
and my hat’s off to you for working in that sort of environment and trying to help people. it must be very difficult and very taxing on your own psyche.
June’s reaction doesn’t surprise me and is a very common one. I went through almost the exact same thing when I was abused, my mother didn’t really care and would spit venom at me by saying things like “your not the worst off kid in the world, get over it” and never letting me acknowledge and process what I went through. He died a few years ago and she even went to his funeral and showed people pictures of the funeral flowers right in front of my face. It’s such a f**king joke and some people don’t deserve their mother title!
I’m just starting in the field and I can back up your statement. I’ve heard it all since I was in undergrad volunteering at nonprofits. Her mentality is not different from a lot of people I’ve spoken to
A few points here. I’ve read the court documents.
1. She’s lying that she didn’t know anything. She’s clearly listed as one of the people in conjunction with the report and investigation. Despite how despicably poor Georgia May be in their addressing of these items, their investigation was very clear. Furthermore, since this happened at her home, she was very much a key responsible party.
2. On her point whereby she states her two reasons for contacting him. Who gives a care on IF he’s dying? She stated she doesn’t love him. Another obvious lie. And regarding her desire to put pumpkins curiosity to rest on the identity of her father, June knows who it is. Tell her. That simple. Neither choice is a desired choice, so, who cares? She has obvious disdain for the other molester, why not mark?
She’s full of it. So obvious. What she brought to the table on her side of the story is laughable.
This whole story sadly hits close to home for me. My own mother has a very similar attitude about her boyfriend molesting my little sister. Its more of a willful ignorance on her part. It a very hard thing to understand and I don’t think I ever will.
Is that a frequent thing, then? I’ve heard my mum tell me ‘He didn’t actually rape you, he only abused you’ so many times, after I had tried explaining matters in so many different ways, and continue to expose my younger sisters, albeit in a much more limited manner, to my abuser, that I simply don’t know what else I can tell her to help her understand that what he did to me, especially sexually, were immensely hurtful, harmful things and that she ought to be much more careful about exposing my younger sisters to him, lest he do anything even a tenth as hurtful to them. I unfortunately cannot get any aid in this from any legal channel, as my abuser is my sisters’ father and so my sisters are exposed to him much more than they would be to any other abuser. Do you mind sharing any more of your experiences with mums like mine? Do they usually begin to understand, after a while, what en enormous thing sexual abuse is, whether it is rape or not, or not? Is there anything that can be done that makes it more likely for them to begin to understand, even if it is only after a while?
Trash. Once popular, but now soon to be discarded-by-the-masses trash. Ignorance isn’t funny or entertaining. It’s scary.
It’s bloody terrifying and irrevocably damaging.
yeap.
This family has come full circle. They were put on TV as a white trash spectacle to mock, but somehow got a reputation as a “loving family” (a story line helped along by the network putting on a lavish “commitment ceremony”). The network glossed over the fact that we were witnessing an endless cycle of babies having babies (and a grand baby with deformed hands). “Mama June” was portrayed as clever to cut coupons and a doting mother. Now the truth has come out and they are back to being white trash again. I really wonder how much the network knew, and how soon. They certainly shut the show down fast.
You totally read my mind. I was thinking the same thing. And yes, the Network pulled that show so quickly they had to know mire details that maybe the public doesn’t know yet.
June is disgusting, she is still making excuses for this man.
IMO The Network is disgusting too.
They had to know some of her personal history.
Her children’s father was on To Catch a Predator…..WTF!
TLC had gone so far down imo, just disgusting.
Her poor children, so sad.
I disagree – I don’t believe this is ignorance. June, I think, knows exactly what happened to Anna – if if she really has never read those papers, she knows something bad happened. Ignorance, I see as a lesser offense because ignorant people can be made knowing. June is worse than ignorant – she is cruel. Cruel people know the pain another is in and choose to worsen it. Doing an interview like this (on the same show Anna first presented her’s) is choosing to deliberately tear open the wounds again and force Anna through the process of reliving it. I couldn’t get through Anna’s interview because it was so palpably painful, and June is now exacerbating that. How can she feel sorry for this man? Even if he is ill and needs compassionate care (something I don’t oppose, btw) why is it June’s place to do so? He can get such care elsewhere.
+1,000,000
Agreed. I think June is attracted to the sort of men who prey on children, and that she’s basically OK with using her children to reel them in as long as no one finds out. I do not believe her protestations of ignorance of McDaniel’s true nature for one second.
Very well said.
She sounds like a mother who may even be jealous of other females, including her daughters. Something doesn’t seem to be wired correctly.
And, if she was such a money wizard with the Boo Boo income, then why is she doing interviews and digging the whole deeper? The fifteen minutes have ended.
Georgia, where they live, has no law requiring any percentage of monies earned by underage performers to be put into trust. Those laws vary by state (California and New York have two of the strongest ones because, of course, they are homes to significant entertainment-related businesses).
June’s claim that the children’s earnings were secured in trust funds was simply her word. She may have meant “trust fund” to mean nothing more than “savings account” to which she had access. Unless a third party steps forward to say otherwise, it is reasonable to assume that the earnings of the children were never in a trust fund and away from their mother’s greedy hands.
She’s definately missing a sensitivity and mental chip somewhere. IMO
So karma does exists..
Seriously. And if he doesn’t actually have leukemia, it’s just another layer of horrific on top of vile, disgusting, shameful, and wrong.
She is evil, look at her eyes. Her eyes tell you everythning you need to know.
That is appropriate. She looks like a stone-cold bi*ch. And nothing will change that.
Agreed!
Because procreation is looked upon as a basic right, not a privilege. And though licensing it may seem to make sense, I wouldn’t want to belong to a culture that would regulate my personal life to that extent.
Oh no! This was in reply to Tentacle Kitten’s comment downthread.
She is a liar, if she told me that it was raining outside, I would have to look out the window before I would believe it.
She is still blaming Anna for trying to “steal” her man away from her and ruining her romantic life, it’s written all over her face, every reaction, her denials, all of it. This media tour she is now on is an attempt to hurt the one she should be caring for, Anna. She let her other daughter call Anna awful things online and had her lie and say that they had not met this predator until pics emerged, wonder how she paid off pumpkin to do that? She is turning her own kids against each other and isolating Anna from her family when she needs support the most. She is vile.
Yes, it is pretty clear Anna and June never had much of a relationship. In one of Anna’s interviews she says she was pretty much raised by her Grandmother and that she only reconciled with her Mother right before filming.
Did the pimp/network not think to investigate this woman and her family? Nah!..too busy counting the money.
This is a pretty massive failure of due diligence.
I believe The Lying Corp TLC knew full well about her past and didn’t care, just hoped no one would dig too deeply. One of her children’s fathers was on To Catch a Predator. People working in those networks had to know that.
TLC is pure sleeze too.
If she was “dating” people in their 20s and thirties as a 14 year old, then she was indeed repeatedly raped by pedophiles. I don’t think that’s even a question. Which goes some way to explaining why she is behaving so badly now. This woman is so so so messed up.
Yeah, I couldn’t believe she didn’t see the connection there.
And she says her mother knew about these “relationships” and did nothing. It’s the repetition of a pattern here.
When I hear her say “something happened,” I feel like she thinks Anna had a “relationship” with this Mark character; not that he molested her, like her own mother felt. It’s sad for Anna, because she never stood a chance.
Yeah, basically she’s saying Anna did it for attention too, like she did when she was 12. Difference is she doesn’t know (or better ‘get’) she was abused, and think it is normal, while clearly Anna did/does.
Absolutely. And I’m not defending her, but she doesn’t know what she doesn’t know. Totally disconnected from reality. Plus, doesn’t she kinda look 12 in this interview? Creepy.
Not to mention the way she described her 12-year-old experience with someone “her age” (I’d guess he was at least a teenager): “I had no idea what it was.”
Consent isn’t possible at that age anyway, but it’s *never* possible for someone who’s unaware that they’re participating in sex acts.
A friend who was coaching his daughter’s sports team said one of the 12 year olds was dating a 20 year old, with full knowledge and approval of her parents. It doesn’t fit well with today’s world, but in olden times the pattern really was that girls became marriageable at puberty and married much older men who were financially able to support a family. That’s why the pattern persists today even though the idea of childhood has been extended several years and it really doesn’t work well in our culture. I’m sure June considers herself as a free agent in her early sexual relationships, although notice it was problems at home that drove her to them (another very common pattern). I know a woman who married a 19 year old at twelve to get away from an abusive father.
I don’t read June’s words as evil. She seems to be acknowledging that something did happen, she just doesn’t want to know the details because she’s struggling to fit things together – she loved this guy at one time, she didn’t actually raise her oldest daughter but only had her over for visits (the girl’s grandmother raised her, June was very young at her birth and my guess is that her mom insisted and/or pushed her out of the house). She is probably full of conflicting emotions about it, but she may be slowly moving toward a more realistic understanding of the situation. Leaping to calling her evil is quite a stretch. She’s confused about it, yes, and desperately needs family counseling with her daughter, but it’s sad how people have turned on her so quickly. There’s a much more complicated family dynamic going on here. I hope her now-adult daughter will be able to reconcile with her and help her understand what really happened and that it wasn’t just another power struggle between June and June’s mother (who was the girl’s real parent at the time).
June has many good qualities but she has terrible judgment in men, as is true for many women (my mother included). I am not surprised that she didn’t know how to deal with the conflict between “stand by your man” and her child’s accusations about what exactly that man did. My mother didn’t know how to deal with my father’s bad behavior either, including considerable verbal abuse. She was raised to think conflict resolution meant pretending there was no conflict (particularly with men), and June may be similarly misinformed.
All I can say to this is…UM, are you serious? “It’s sad how quickly people have turned on her?” Really? This is a simple case of right and wrong. Touching children is wrong, period. End of.
In “olden” times, people also had slaves. The fact that it was “olden” doesn’t make what happened any righter or better.
And unless your father molested you-which you don’t make clear in your comment-his verbal abuse and your mother’s reaction are not even comparable to this situation. There’s a difference between consistently dating jerks and dating pedos. HUGE difference.
Bravo jwoolman! THANK YOU for sharing your insight and attempt to educate people. Even before this recent discovery and resultant cancellation of the show, it bothered me that our society finds it entertaining to exploit the challenges faced by under-privileged families for our amusement.
And, YES, there are plenty more families that are suffering from similar problems — not ONLY the poor and traditionally under-educated. This also is going on in the middle and upper classes. If we really are so appalled by this behavior, we must first find compassion in our hearts and, from there, begin by educating these poor people. But many of us will have to educate ourselves first.
Wow. So much that could be said, but I’ll stick to one comment: You “hope her now-adult daughter will be able to reconcile with her”? Why would you add the burden of being a ‘good daughter’ to the pile of crap this young lady has already been dealt in life? I hope Anna is able to heal and move on at some point for her own sake, *and* I hope she is able to stay far, far way from her evil, toxic b@tch of a ‘mother’.
If your friend knew that a 20 year old was “dating” at 12 year old and he/she did NOT report it to police, than your friend is a terrible person and an accomplice to abuse. If anyone told me that a 12 year old was “dating” a 20 year old I would call CPS so fast your head would spin. What the hell!!!!!!
Sick. If I were your “friend,” I would have reported that 20-year-old and that young girl’s parents. WTF is wrong with people???
This is Bob Barker reminding you to have your despicable morons spayed or neutered.
YEP! You nailed it.
I think maybe she doesn’t realise she was sexually abused because she was never taught what sexual abuse is. That’s not uncommon. That’s why it is so important to have these discussions with our kids, no matter how uncomfortable the topic is.
Yes this exactly. She simply doesn’t see it.
She is so evil. And so stupid. If someone has sex with you when you’re 12, you were abused. If you were dating 38 year old men when you were 15, you were abused. I have some compassion for her for that, but it’s no excuse for her complete lack of empathy or protectiveness towards her own child. It makes it even harder to understand.
it’s nauseating.
Completely.
This whole thing is just so terrible. I can’t believe the kids are still with her and will continue to be for the forseeable future. Thise poor girls don’t stand a chance
I don’t understand why they are still with her, either. She is clearly a danger to them.
Unfortunately I know women like this. The stupid b*tch is wondering why people can’t see it her way, why don’t they want her to be happy, & the past is over, can’t people just let it go & move on. She’s wants a man to love her more than she wants the love of her kids. That is why she is the perfect target for a pedophile. Hell! She found two of them.
I hope the interviewer asks her why this man went house-hunting with her. That’s not ‘closure for one daughter’ that’s ‘let’s play family.’ Ugh. Despicable.
It kills me that she told her daughter to “not bring up the past”, when she’s the one who brought this predator right back into the family. Anna had no choice – her mom was parading around with “the past” for the whole world to see.
Spot on. Revolting.
100% agree!
I’ve largely avoided these stories because they both infuriate and sadden me.
I agree with everyone else that there is something very very wrong with this woman. I do think she was abused but doesn’t see that she was a victim.
How tragic for her young daughters that she is perpetuating that cycle of abuse.
I have a weird mixture of hatred and sympathy. I’ve gotten really soft in recent years, and I still have a glimmer of sadness for anyone who had a childhood like she apparently did. She doesn’t know she was a victim. Her treatment of her daughters is inexcusable – and I’m not trying to feel sorry for that aspect of her. But I feel for young, teenage pregnancy June who was clearly abused in one way or another, based on her own testimony here.
And when it comes to Pumpkins father, I think she’s not a very good liar.
“Jessica and Pumpkin have the same dad, but Jessica’s dad has had nothing to do with her over the years.”
Notice she separated Jessica’s dad? Not “the girls dad” or “Jessica and Pumpkins dad”.
I feel sympathy for the teenage June, who may not have known any better. I am having a tough time understanding why 30-something June (with all her exposure to the outside world the past few years) doesn’t seem to have grown in understanding and empathy for her own children.
I have avoided most of these recent stories as well, but I do know she was photographed looking at houses with that guy. Are we to ignore that because they were not holding hands? She sounds like a piece of work all the way around.
Very astute of you to have picked up her slip of the tongue there, Erinn. Didn’t even see that.
You summarized how I feel about the situation perfectly. I tend to err on the side of sympathy when I read about people who have had traumatic childhoods, as mine was so idyllic. I just can’t imagine who I’d be without such loving and supportive parents. That being said, it is simply unforgivable to see any mother side with a man over her own flesh and blood. It just disgusts me.
Very tragic for all involved.
I agree Kitten. I had a pretty good, standard childhood–nothing major happened. But my mom didn’t. She was half starved during her elementary school years–was only given one meal (at school) a day to eat, because there were six kids, her mother abandoned them, and her father didn’t care about them. She used to be so hungry that she couldn’t pay attention in class until after lunch–she told me that listening to her teacher talk was like listening to Charlie Brown’s teacher……so, to this day, she makes sure that we have enough to eat. Even when it means fighting with my dad over the grocery bill (he thinks she spends too much). Even when she came back from chemotherapy treatments–she spent the two weeks home cooking and freezing meals because our dad was being such a tightwad with money and food.
I think that’s the thing. I had a pretty good childhood. Our parents fought too much in front of us, bordering on emotional abuse on both sides. But they loved us more than anything, and wanted us to be safe, well educated, always have food when we needed it, etc. They just had relationship issues, which seem to have gotten a lot better in recent years. I have a hard time knowing that there are so many kids who don’t have any of those things. And like @Christin said – I completely feel for young June. June today – not as much. She’s had a chance to change so many things, and she’s hurting her daughters so much.
At this point her minor children would be better off with Glitzy the Pig as their legal guardian.
Wait, what? How did she not know what happened to Anna until 2 and a half years ago, but it happened over a decade ago and Mark was incarcerated during that time for what he did to Anna? Does she mean she doesn’t know the details? Because it sounds like she’s saying she just found out in 2012, which doesn’t make a lick of sense. But then she says she doesn’t want to see the court documents because it brings up bad memories.
Seriously, am I missing something? Or is this heinous, sad excuse for a mother just lying, deflecting, and playing ignorant to get the interview over and done with? How can she say she did not know of Mark’s abuse of Anna right from the start? They would have had to take Anna’s statements and had her interviewed by a child psychologist at the very least in order to incarcerate him. And that’s assuming it didn’t go to trial, which would have been much more involved. Does anybody know if he went to trial? Or did he just take a plea deal?
Anna’s case against McDaniel went to trial but dismissed by the jury … he was eventually convicted for molesting a different victim. And Anna lived with her grandmother a lot of the time, it’s not real clear how much contact there was between her and June.
If June wasn’t acting so stupid about it now, those 2 facts would give her a tiny bit of wriggle room … you could almost believe she was in denial rather than bald-faced lying. But she’s clearly lying about how much contact she’s had with McDaniel, even in the face of photographic evidence, so I can only assume she’s a compulsive liar. If she’s a compulsive liar, the lies aren’t necessarily going to make sense.
Ahh, the fact that he was incarcerated as punishment for another victim makes sense. I could see the compulsive liar bit. I think she’s definitely mentally ill, that level of denial does not come from a happy and orderly mind.
She DID know. She’s lying. But mark went to jail for another abuse. Anna’s case was dropped, which I’m certain june had everything to do with that. She didn’t want to look at the documents because she would be further challenged.
You know what came through the most? The contempt she has for Anna. She spends almost no time in this whole interview talking about how Anna must feel, or Anna breaking down on the same show or anything like that. She genuinely hates Anna, I really believe that. She probably thought she had a good thing going and Anna screwed it up by going and getting molested. Notice her word choice – “something happened.” You know what I think she believes? I think she really believes that Anna somehow “lured” this guy into something (never mind that an 8-year old cannot lure anyone into anything). That is sadly a common idea among some people, and I think June believes it.
As for not reading the court documents, I get why that might be painful, but I also feel like, as a mom myself, you have a duty to know what happened to your child so you can better help them heal. June had no interest in helping Anna. Her contempt for her own child just seethes through. It’s days like this I’m pleased to be a Christian, because it allows me to believe that June will at some point have to answer to a far higher authority that anything here, and I don’t believe it will treat her too kindly. Remember, the Bible was brutal on those who betray their own kin.
Well said, Sam. Took the words right out of my mouth. She despises Anna and that’s clear. I too take comfort in the fact that one day she will have to answer to a higher power for her actions.
“I don’t think that my sexual experiences at a young age makes it anything different than what Anna went through.”
So June thinks her 8 year old daughter & McDaniel were just having an affair and it wasn’t rape?
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“At first because I knew nothing about the situation up until almost two and a half years ago. I knew nothing. Nothing.”
Guy’s been in jail for 10 years. What’s this about 2 1/2 years? Sergeant Schultz much?
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“Yes, but. No I’m not holding hands.”
But never mind the photo of them in bed together, right? And Uncle Poodle having evidence that they all went on a trip together back in September.
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About the alleged leukemia, until I see this guy in the hospital getting leukemia treatments, I wouldn’t believe it outright. This guy lies. June lies. They got Pumpkin to lie for them. They both think they’re the real and only victims.
It doesn’t seem like she cares at ALL and this is all just an inconvenience to her. And who gives a f*ck if that assface is sick why would you even care, he molested her daughter and she is too busy feeling sorry for him. I hope Anna finds good support elsewhere and that nothing happens to her other kids.
Anna was eight years old when this happened. EIGHT YEARS OLD. It is not that I think any of this would be any less horrific if she was twelve. But I mean,8 is just a tiny, little, silly kid.
June says she wasn’t abused, but she clearly admits she was. She just doesn’t categorize it as such. If at 14 she was dating 20/30 year olds–that means she was *repeatedly* molested and her mother did nothing to stop it. If Anna had been 14 when all this happened, I would still be horrified by all of it–but then I might think “Well June thinks she herself was having a consensual relationship with adult men at 14–so maybe that is why she has such a skewed view of this.” But Anna was 8. There is a world of differece between an 8 year old and a 14 year old. Please understand that I in no way am saying molesting 14 year olds is any better than molesting 8 year olds. I absolutely do not feel that way. I just think in THIS instance, given June’s history, if Anna had been 14, it might be easier to understand how June is so dismissive, because to her that is “normal” for a 14 year old. She is still vile no matter what. But I think a lot of us are trying to understand how she could possibly do this to Anna…and while that would be a really shitty reason, it would at leastshed light on her (limited) thought process.
What is most shocking to me is how the law works. We KNOW June is not protective of her children. We KNOW he is a CONVICTED perdophile. And yet there is no way for the law to protect those kids? The authorities found that no one was being harmed by him currently. Ok–but the key word is CURRENTLY. It is only a matter of time, the girls already know their mother won’t care, and the Pedo also knows she won’t care. It is just a matter of time.
Also–the author said that it was terrible to be glad that he may not be long for this world. #$%^ that. I have known many amazing, beautiful people that have lost their battle with cancer. If that is how HE dies? It is too good a death for him.
So, I’m thinking decades into the future. The girls are middle-aged adults with families of their own and June is dead. The girls will never pick up the phone to wish each other Happy Birthday, will not hear news of their nieces and nephews, nor share any part of any holiday with each other. They will not seek out therapy.
June destroyed this family. She taught the younger girls to STFU or lose mama’s “love”.
How do I know? This is how it is for my husband’s family and for much the same reasons.
I only skimmed the article and thread because June Shannon makes me nauseous. But I am compelled to point out that she really really bears resemblance to Jabba the Hutt. Now I must run away…
Holy crap. I almost choked on my Frosted Flakes. LOL
I feel dirty watching the drama play out but I can’t look away from this car accident. If anything it’s an interesting case study for psych students.
Have you noticed how so many of these child molesters have that same wide-eyed, innocent, child-like stare? And if they don’t have that, then there’s something else that comes across as juvenile… Or am I just imagining this? It’s almost like June is attracted to that and doesn’t realize it. Maybe her own molester (she doesn’t categorize it as that but that’s what we all know it was) had the same look…
June’s been warped by her own experiences. And to see reality – being taken advantage of as a child herself, seeing her daughter as a victim instead of a temptress, seeing the men she is attracted to as manipulative predators – is not something she’s willing to do. I don’t think she’ll be ready anytime soon, at least not while she’s getting attention and money from the network. I’m sure she sees the outcome of her life’s decisions and the way things play out for her as confirmation that she’s doing just fine in the way she handles herself.
Maybe the public blow back will be enough to wake her up? But, there were/are critics of the whole Booboo franchise and it never seemed to slow June down then – so probably not now…
Unfortunately abuse runs in cycles like this. I do art therapy with children and many families the grandmother, mother and child are all victims of abuse. Those poor children. I hope Anna can break the cycle. Many times the victims are not believed or told “didn’t that happen a long time ago” Mothers protect your children. This is also why in training we are told to look out for other people’s children as well. I feel so bad for Anna. I hope she can get help and peace. Perhaps her not being around this family is best.
Absolutely. I was a victim, my mother, my sister…MY DAUGHTER WAS NOT. I must also add if I was EVER around the sicko who was my daughter’s abuser, I might be in prison, for lopping off his junk.
I’ve never seen an episode of HCHBB, but from the very beginning I thought this woman looked hard, scary, angry and, frankly, sociopathic. Those dead, cold eyes and slack expression were enough for me. She first became “famous” for dressing up her daughter like a 30-year old showgirl and jacking her up on “Go-Go Juice”. What the hell did THAT say?
This won’t end when the pedo’s dead, she’ll march another right in to fill his place. This will end when June is dead, assuming of course it doesn’t carry on with the next generation. This pigspawn scum and her pedo beau can die screaming.
Is June paying for this guy’s house? How does a convict fresh out of a 10 year prison term have the means to buy a house? Are they moving in together? Does the ex-hubby have anything to say about where these girls live… ???? It’s all so messed up to me…. how can someone who has done this to their daughters be allowed to continue to have custody, and spend an interview defending herself and her “friendship” with this creep?
Has June said who Anna’s dad is?
Anna’s dad is a man who has done time for stealing and such, but not for any kind of sexual crimes. Then there’s Jessica, whose dad is a sex offender who got busted on To Catch a Predator (but not the same man who molested Anna, another sex offender). Then there’s Lauryn, whose father has never been known, but people have speculated that McDaniel, the current sex offender BF is her dad, or the other sex offender who is Jessica’s dad might also be Lauryn’s dad. And then there’s Alanna, whose dad is Sugar Bear (who has also done time for robbery and arson).
I know, right? Out of 4 kids, at least two of them have pervert daddies. June effectively used Megan’s List as a dating app!
So June was in some form of “consenting” relationship with Anna’s dad?
No, she was legally too young to be capable of providing consent. She was 14. He was a pedophile.
I have never been able to find out the age of Anna’s dad – presumably, since Anna is 20, we’d be able to count back and figure out how old he was when she was born (June was 14-15, IIRC). If he was under 18 at the time, there is no crime, legally speaking. Most states will say that if both parties are under the age of consent, there can be no crime because doing so would create a “mutual rape” situation – if he molested her, she molested him, and generally the law won’t touch that. June makes reference to having a 30 year-old boyfriend when she was 14, but I’m not sure if that 30 year old is Anna’s dad. So I am not sure what that exact situation is.
Yeah, I think Anna’s dad was young as well. He looks like it today anyway.
I was talking about this situation with my sixteen year old son. I have daughters who are 21 and 26. He asked me what I would have done if someone had abused any one of them. (he knows I would have believed them, no question about it.)
My answer was simple : “It’s a good thing we don’t have guns in the house.”
This story makes me feel sick and angry on so many levels. That there are people like this in our world…I guess it shouldn’t surprise me- I am a lawyer and have seen a lot of disturbing things. But I am still upset and a bit shocked. It is funny that you can believe you have reached the limits of cynicism- and still be surprised and sickened by these behaviors.
Please consider going back to talk to your son to A) apologize and B) clarify that he wasn’t trying to tell you something important. I was molested by my grandfather as a child. One day I asked my mom what would happen if a man touched me and made me touch him. Her answer kept me from telling her about my grandfather, because she said “I would go to prison for murder because I’d kill anyone who did that!” Most children are molested by someone in their family or someone well known to the family and already have enough confusion and guilt. Claiming you’d kill such a person can actually prevent someone from wanting to share what is happening.
I don’t care what she says, I still 100% believe that McDaniel is Pumpkins father. And that the reason she never revealed his paternity before was because he probably had a history with other young girls when they first got together. She knew it would cause problems having a second daughter fathered by another child molester, so she just kept quiet and never said a word.
And I just CAN’T understand how a mother wouldn’t/couldn’t be concerned about a 30 something man dating her teenage daughter! June had two kids by 17 – obviously her mother wasn’t protecting her daughter after she had the first baby at 15. I really, really hope that Anna’s husband is the support and rock that she needs and will be there for her. Not just now, but for many years in the future. As her daughter grows up and reaches the age Anna was when she was molested, I can only imagine how difficult it will be for her. But she seems like she is committed to stopping the cycle with her and raising her daughter in a loving home, and being a real mom to her, something that sadly she never experienced.
I wouldn’t put much emphasis of blame on Junes mother. She raised anna who seems to be a bright and strong woman now despite what happened to her. Also the grandmother was a primary supporter of trying to get justice for anna. June seems to have been a difficult to manage girl, and her mother was there at least to clean up her messes, so to speak. And she is still backing her up today.
June’s mother knew she was “dating” 30 year olds when June was 14 and was “okay with it”. So basically her mother KNEW she was being abused and allowed it!!! Sick! June may be worse, but her mother is no prize person herself!
we have no way of knowing how old june’s “dates” were then as she is telling a lot of lies in this interview. it may be true. but i wouldnt accept anything she says as gospel.
anna’s grandmother was the one who alerted the authorities about anna when june wouldnt so i am no sure i want to take june’s word on it.
This woman isn’t just in denial about her daughter. She says she was never molested or abused, but describes her first sexual experience at AGE TWELVE as a situation where she didn’t understand what was happening. Then she says she was dating 30 year old men at age 14. That is called statutory rape June.
Things are starting to make a little more sense here. If you can’t admit you were sexually violated as a minor yourself, well, you probably can’t identify it elsewhere either.
Yuck.
“I don’t think that my sexual experiences at a young age makes it anything different than what Anna went through.”
Which means she doesn’t think her daughter was molested, instead, that her daughter was fooling around with HER boyfriend and thus trying to steal him away.
YUCK
These people here are why I feel you should need a licence to have kids. If you have to prove you’re not going to kill or cripple people on the roads why should you be able to foster generation after generation of dysfunction just because you want to?
Or how about (less extreme) all pregnant women and the men that got them pregnant, MUST take a parenting course and if they fail the course, they just have to keep taking it over and over. The course could be things like “What is abuse” “Don’t abuse your kids” “How to feed your kids” “what to do if you see abuse happen”. For most people it would be a joke course but maybe it could REALLY help out some families.
If you have to be reminded not to abuse or neglect your kids you shouldn’t have kids. End of story. Just like if you can’t care for a pet.
Do we have any evidence that this wretched hosebeast can actually read? Why else would she refuse to see the court documents of what this creep did her kid?
I hated this crunked out manatee before all of this, and now it’s at a whole new level. What a disgusting human being.
“crunked out manatee”
/dead
She’s dated multiple sexual predators and had children while doing so. Many sexual predators seek out women with kids who are ignorant and lonely do they can prey on their children. I wonder if that’s what has happened here.
Anyone having their first sexual experience prior to the age of 18 is legally seen as statutory rape. June admitted she didn’t even know what sex was at that age. She even admitted that she wasn’t interested in sex, but attention instead of physical enjoyment and wanting to be with someone she felt strongly for. This sounds abusive-like she was being used. She thinks that because she did it willingly for attention that the boy using her for something she didn’t want-sex-that it wasn’t abuse. I see it as abuse still. Without therapy to heal this experience I imagine it would negatively affect your future romantic and sexual experiences.
12 is extremely young, most girls haven’t even had their first period at that age.
“Since then he was caught on To Catch a Predator.” What would this family do without TV shows that directly impact their lives?