Benedict Cumberbatch: If my fans like me, they’ll like Sophie Hunter too


Yes, it’s not a day of the week until we cover something to do with Benedict Cumberbatch. In my defense… I’ve got nothing. Yep. This is how it is! No, in truth, I think the oversaturation of the past three weeks is slowing down significantly. Just in time for Benedict to start promoting The Hobbit movie, right? Anyway, Benedict does have a new interview with The NY Daily News where he seems to brush off the idea that his rabid fanbase are overwhelmingly upset with the fact that he proposed to a strumpet! Hm. Some highlights:

He doesn’t mind the attention from the Cumberpeople: “I think most of it is good-natured and like anyone who’s ever been in the public eye and kind of revered in a way that I’ve been by these fans, the possession only takes on a sinister quality if the [fan] is really not very secure. And since the woman I’m engaged to is as much a part of me as anything else in my life, if they like me, by extension they like her.”

The surreal moment of the TIG premiere in London: “That was extraordinary and surreal, just as it was turning up at the airport with 1,000 Japanese fans waiting when I went to promote ‘Star Trek Into Darkness’ there. Photo-bombing U2 (at the Oscars) was also surreal, but something that felt right at the time. And then only afterwards, I’d think, ‘Oh God, I’ve done that in front of the whole world,’ when I actually did it for one friend who kept on haranguing me for a photo with U2.”

He did an old-fashioned wedding announcement because he’s an “old soul”: “There are other operations in newspapers that find things out or try to publicize rumor and gossip. I wanted to take control over the facts of it and announce it in a way that I would’ve done if I wasn’t famous.”

Fame: “Fame is a projection of self beyond the work, which can be toxic. It can make you neurotic about your appearance, the perception people have of you, the lack of control you have over that perception. But fame is kind of what I’m paid for now, I fear.”

[From the NYDN]

“If they like me, by extension they like her…” Um, I don’t see the logic of that. I mean, I guess he doesn’t want to acknowledge the craziness head on (acknowledging it might be even worse, honestly), but it does seem Pollyanna of Benedict to claim that his fans will just see Sophie as an extension of him. It’s sort of insulting to Sophie too – she’s her own person, doing her own thing and not everything is about Benedict.

Also – Benedict did NPR’s All Things Considered last Friday – you can hear the interview here.

Meanwhile, Benedict recently met Jennifer Aniston, Jason Bateman, Jason Sudeikis and Charlie Day on a plane. Aniston claimed that they were all talking and the boys tried to convince Benedict to come onboard at the “boss” for a potential Horrible Bosses 3. I think Benedict was probably just trying to be polite.



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  1. Anony says:

    S’bout time for our daily Cumberdose…

  2. Abbott says:

    These two better get hitched soon cuz I’m running otter jokes

  3. Kiddo says:

    LIKE HER, Kaiser. It’s a turn on the phrase, ‘Love me, love my dog’. If you don’t like Sophie, you are a terrible, terrible fan and I will revoke your standing in presidency of the Cumberbatchesrollypollyfishehead Club immediately.

  4. Lucifer says:

    @kaiser again those pics. That’s freaking tiring!!

  5. Green Eyes says:

    If this relationship is real, then I feel very, very sorry for Sophie – because with Benedict, it’s ALL about him.


    Edit: Forgot to add that in most of these pictures taken at the NY premiere it looks like Benedict is alone up in front of the cameras and that there is a hologram of SH next to him. Because he doesn’t even react with her. At. All.

  6. Soothy says:

    As I said on the other thread, why does anyone even care about her anyway? If you’re a fan of HIS, then you’re a fan of his. Surely it’s his work, face etc that you like..
    I know nothing about her except an air of snootiness, questionable acting and appalling ‘performance art’. I’m not about to start showing an interest in her due to any sort of connection she has with him.

    • aly says:

      ITA with you.

    • MissMary says:


      My SO thinks it’s an attempt to get her some fans but I think it’s just…crappy ego and PR posturing. I haven’t seen any other actors who are engaged, married, or otherwise in a relationship say “Well, if you like me, you have to like my partner.” Even ones with amazing partners.

      • Chamy says:

        Most actors don’t have such cray-cray fans like Cumberbatch’s Cumberb**ches.
        I kind of feel sorry for them that they considered it necessary to sort of “blackmail” Cumberbatch’s fans into liking Sophie.
        I get it. It is a PR stunt that they deem necessary.

      • FLORC says:

        I’m leaning towards he’s trying to be supportive of her. Maybe she was hurt by such negative feelings or someone told BC his fiance isn’t well liked by his fans.

        There are many actors that have SOs with poor acting skill or lesser careers. And to a certain extent they tried to launch their own careers with the weight of their husbands name. Michael J. Fox’s wife and Ben Stiller’s wife off the top of my head. Both had ok careers, but married up. Not for fame, but didn’t give up their careers. Which without their husbands would remain nothing great.

      • Fanmail says:

        I think sometimes these girlfriends/wives get alot of flak from fans who are in love with their idol and fantasize romantically. The girlfriend/fiance is an intruder. Women throw themselves at these guys all the time. Cumby is a kind of rock star and somehow he has to integrate her into his life. She’s got alot of adjusting to do and she’ll have alot to put up with alot to be with him. But yeah this is kinda awkward for them, and that dress — WHAT WAS SHE THINKING??? LOL

  7. Lucifer says:

    Benedict to claim that his fans will just see Sophie as an extension of him. It’s sort of insulting to Sophie too – she’s her own person, doing her own thing and not everything is about Benedict.

    i liked ur POV kaiser

    • Onthefly says:

      I actually didn’t get her point of view. I read Cumberbatch’s statement as saying that if you like me you would want what is best for me i.e my happiness. Maybe what he is saying is as simple as “she makes me happy and my fans should like/support that”…?

      • Janet says:

        That’s how I took it. He seems like a lovely man and I wish them well.

      • FLORC says:

        Also the way I took it.
        I think the Cumbie fans are viewing this from a tainted angle. Nothing is objective.
        Sophie has been frowned upon from the start and now people are viewing BC’s defense as he must be just as bad.

        For whatever reason people are unsure of BC and how he hustles. Or how his taste in women is not what they’d expect.

      • Soothy says:

        You really think he looks happy right now?

        Oh, come on now. Please don’t turn this into a poor Sophie is hated on because he’s engaged to her.
        These comments come around about every couple of threads and it’s so facile and infuriating.
        If you know anything about him at all and have indeed read the threads on here properly, you’ll see that’s it not a question of that whatsoever. The insinuation that everyone raising their eyebrows over all his is just a jelly hater is really pretty offensive.
        And if you honestly think that all of this is any way normal and his odd statements are in any way natural for him, then I think you need to sit down and ask yourself some questions.
        And if you truly believe that her feelings are hurt because someone told her some fans don’t like her very much and this his response? I mean..c’mon now.
        For a start, you’ll actually see again if you read the comments that it’s not so much about her, more the whole situation. Her ‘work’ gets criticised and rightly so, that’s what it’s there for but there is huge puzzlement at the bizarre events.
        And I also don’t understand how people think that a few fan opinions are in any way relevant or important. Of course they’re not.

      • J says:

        IDk on here specifically but yes it does go both ways, some fans will turn if they dont like a new partner

  8. Anony says:

    Just want to say. I’ve never really found him that attractive or been much of a fan. However I have been intrigued by him and have enjoyed Sherlock.

    I too am enjoying watching this nonsense. I was wondering what sizes the tin foil hats come in and if there were still tickets left for the conspiracy train ;-)

  9. Lilacflowers says:

    Revered? He thinks he is revered?

    • Zapp Brannigan says:

      What? You don’t have an altar with his photos and loaded up with bivalves for him? Its not just me is it.

      • Lilacflowers says:

        No, the only altars I have are for Alan Rickman and Bill Nighy and Sam Neal. I feel so unworthy now and will go cleanse my sins with vodka. Please forgive me

      • Jaderu says:

        You have a Sam Neal altar?
        Crap, now I have to get rid of the “Owner of the only Sam Neal altar in existence” line from my business cards.

      • Lilacflowers says:

        Yes, Jaderu, with the pillow fight sequence from “My Brilliant Career” running continuously. I give offerings of wine, bacon, and velociraptors twice daily..

      • j says:

        ‘sort of kind of’

        better than saying worship imo hes not wrong though, hes got some out there fans lol

      • icerose says:

        do you think he realises other actors have even larger l fan bases have got married and survived the process.
        My favourite article of the week on the marriage of BC. Brought a smile to my face but I a not sure everybody saw it in the same way,

        “Don’t know about you, but things that can still make me feel like my ovaries are in mortal agony: 1 One mug, pink, reads “The Future Mrs Benedict Cumberbatch”. 2 One life-size cardboard cutout, tear-stained, original cost £35. (No, Mother, it wouldn’t work with a different face.) 3 One set of Benedict Cumberbatch edible cupcake toppers. Even before he was engaged, I respected his talent too much to stick his head on some frosting and eat it – now, it will never happen. The media always had it totally wrong about weird, obsessed, etc Cumberbatch fandom. 4 The 2015 official Benedict Cumberbatch calendar, still shrink-wrapped. Thanks, Benedict and Sophie, it arrived literally the day you put your announcement in the Times, just saying. I know we all wish you every possible happiness. If it lasts. 5 Twelve front row tickets for Hamlet, one for every Saturday of the run, soon to be available on eBay. Btw, somebody tell me, does Hamlet ever make it out of Elsinore? 6 Finally, but only because I already threw away the Sherlock thongs, one Barbican red membership card (price £100) bought to guarantee Hamlet tickets, not that I’m bearing a grudge, but WTF use is that

        ” Note to Tom Hiddleston: if you’re reading this and can promise to stay single until after you’ve done Hamlet, or at least before booking opens (and that’s one entire day some of us will never get back), I would consider transferring right across.
        Because other than becoming a Hiddlestoner, the only worthy BC replacements have to be Eddie Redmayne and Matt Smith, or do I hear a voice saying RPatz? Bear in mind their significant others. No, let’s not be hurt like that again. Ever. So my next post will be on Tom *faints with longing* Hiddleston.

    • Zapp Brannigan says:

      No forgiveness required if you are willing to share Rickman and Nighy. And why the eff is Alan Rickman not the People mag sexiest man of the year, every year. I mean damn he would get it.

  10. Algernon says:

    I think he means that if they genuinely like him, then they’ll like her in the sense that she’s the person he’s chosen to be with, and if he’s happy then they’re happy that he’s happy. I think he’s aware of the “backlash” (I think all these people have someone who tells them what’s going on online), and he doesn’t want to acknowledge it directly, because as you say, that would be worse. So he’s saying, “If you like me, then you should like her, because I like her.” Not to demean her or take away her individuality, but because as far as his fans are concerned, that’s all that should matter to them.

    • Soothy says:

      I haven’t seen a backlash, I’ve just seen a completely understandable bunch of sideeye.

    • Lucifer says:

      we r just a fan of his work. But, recently his douchy behavior has opened more mouths thn his acting did. It is like saying if u like me u hav to like my drunk uncle coz he’s my family. where is the logic, why suddenly is he all Victorian?

      • EscapedConvent says:


        Actually “If you like me you have to like my drunk Uncle” is a line that Cumby’s niece and assistant, Emily, has to say on quite a regular basis.

      • Just me says:

        Yes. LMFAO. Thank you! Yes, let’s have a moment of pity for poor Emily.

    • aly says:

      Makes sense, but I choose indifference to SH. :)

    • Anony says:

      Generally speaking I tend to be friendly with my friends significant others. The things the couple have in common are frequently common with me too.

      However, we are not best friends with him we do not really know him so this seems a tad silly.

      • Algernon says:

        I honestly think it’s a tad silly for anyone to think they have any right to an opinion about a relationship involving two people they don’t know, and yes I know this is a gossip site and having opinions on people we don’t know is the whole point. I just see a lot of people talking about this relationship, on this site and others, in definite terms, like we 100% know what’s going on, when we don’t have a clue, really. I like Bendybink Cumblybuns, I love Sherlock, I enjoy his otter realness. I don’t care who he marries. It’s not me, so it doesn’t matter to me.

        I think that’s what he’s responding to. All this talk of conspiracy and everything, I think he’s aware of it and he’s saying, “All that should matter to you is that this person makes me happy.” Believe him or not, but I think this is his roundabout, British, polite way of saying people should mind their own business.

      • Floribunda says:

        I do get what you’re saying Algernon, but it presupposes that this relationship is genuine, and that both of the parties involved are indeed happy. ITA that we should all butt out of his affairs if that does ultimately turn out to be the case.

        If, however, this relationship is a sham, then I think we have every right to an opinion on it. Genuine or not, the engagement is clearly being used as fuel for BC’s Oscar campaign. The Oscars themselves, and the factors that contribute to whoever wins, are fair game for public debate, even if the relationship itself isn’t.

        And I’m British myself, so I get BC’s roundabout way of doing things, but I do think there’s a bit more going on here than someone politely admonishing their nosey fans.

      • Soothy says:

        Honestly, we british are not the bumbling, polite roundabout way of saying things kind of people that that the rest of the world seems to think we are.

        And I’ve never seen anyone wear a bowler hat.

      • Algernon says:


        I agree he’s leveraging the attention for his Oscar campaign. I remain unconvinced that that = sham relationship, but he is benefitting from it.

      • Just me says:

        It’s not the relationship itself that’s the talking point, or at least not the sole focus. That’s not really what we’re discussing. It’s the weirdness around the relationship. It’s the idiocy that’s been pouring from his mouth lately that has everyone talking.

  11. Lilacflowers says:

    Sophie is an extension of him? Well, now we know where all the absinthe went!

  12. Etheldreda says:

    And he STILL cant’ bring himself to say her name!

    ”The woman I’m engaged to”? Charming!

    • Lucifer says:


    • aly says:

      The more he talks the less this mess makes sense.

    • Ingrid says:

      I do get that he doesn’t use “Sophie” when he’s talking to strangers. I never refer to my SO by first name if the person I’m talking to doesn’t know him.

      But these weird terms, TWILTWIPT-TWIET and so on, are very passive aggressive. He should use “my fiancee” as a normal person would, but I think he’s unconsciously trying to distance himself from her.

      • Zapp Brannigan says:

        Yep to distancing himself from her, like Bill Clinton and “I did not have relations with THAT woman”.

        Edit to add: Maybe BC should have a cigar he might lighten up.

      • Lindy79 says:

        Even “my partner” would be better than all these flouncy fake sounding phrases, I know I hated saying fiance when I was engaged.

      • Felice says:

        I saw fireworks when someone made the Bill Clinton connection. It was so gorgeous and mind blowing.

      • Lucifer says:

        Clinton :D low blow..
        atleast lewinsky was pretty :P

      • Etheldreda says:

        But Sophie’s name was included in the engagement announcement and she’s been on the red carpet with him. So if he said ‘Sophie’ everyone would know who he meant.

        But yeah, even ‘my fiancee’ would have been better. ”The woman I’m engaged to”…. so cold and impersonal. Why use 5 words to say what you could say in 1 or 2 words?

      • j says:

        because he’s running on almost all PR script

      • Claire says:

        Dude even Clinton capped that famous sentence off with “Ms Lewinsky”.

        Damn. I just realized a US president described his jump off with more intimacy than BC refers to his…whatever she is.

        Also let us never forget TLIMLATM

    • Janet says:

      I’m waiting for him to refer to her as “What’s-her-face”.

      • Fanmail says:

        There is definitely something weird about how he talks about her devotion to him. He does seem to have morphed into a victorian. She directs theatre and is very well educated. She’s not the matronly housefrau type (even though her dress here looks like it. I hate that dress!). Anyway, I hope he recovers his charm very quickly, this is quite disturbing!

  13. Green Eyes says:

    Does anyone else think this guy needs a good swift kick in the pants?


  14. Lindy79 says:

    Tie his “like me, like her” thought process in with the whole bigging up of her CV as if to seem worthy of him. It’s all so….odd.

    I lolled at his “There are other operations in newspapers that find things out or try to publicize rumor and gossip. I wanted to take control over the facts of it and announce it in a way that I would’ve done if I wasn’t famous.”

    WOW slow down there Romeo you old romantic!!
    “I, I, I..” “the facts of it”

    The only reason people think it’s odd because you went out of your way not to be seen together, or make any mention of her in interviews up until 3 weeks before you announced it so that’s it’s in direct contradiction to your claim of wanting to “normalise it”. Not one thing about their relationship OR behaviour seems normal.

    • Lucifer says:

      yes lindy now it seems the washing up of CV was all his doing. He seems to OWN her

      • Felice says:

        I really hope that’s not true because I really wanted him to be a good guy with women.

      • aly says:

        Good thing I’m 99% sure this shit is just PR…did he talk about his previous gfs like that?

      • Lindy79 says:

        No, he mentioned Olivia in several tv interviews (Graham Norton was on major one) and print and it was always with a bit of warmth and good humour.

      • aly says:

        I thought so…

      • MissMary says:

        He also mentioned Anna James, even after they broke up, and they were uber private (and *gasp* still dated openly and were seen being loved up–not gross PDA, but actually looking like they were into each other). So he’s not above using the names of SOs or dates… Just TWILTWIPT.

    • Platospopcorn says:

      I liked what you said before the edit, Lindy. “It’s all so…ugly.”

      This woman is either incredibly desperate or a saint. NO WAY would I play this man’s games for him. Pffft.

      ETA: Up to this point, I have been solidly anti-conspiracy, neutral on Sophie, and ambivalent about BC himself. Now? I’m increasingly apathetic about possible conspiracies, tired beyond description of this promotional campaign, pro-Sophie Hunter, and ANTI-BC. Good work, PR team!!!!

      • Lindy79 says:

        I was looking for a gif of Glenn Close saying it in Stepford Wives. It went perfectly with what I was feeling but couldnt find one :(

        There are so many other ways he could have said “she’s my fiance so…I hope my fans treat her with respect” or something. I mean…I dunno…I have no clue.
        His reactions and comments about his fans have bounced between surly, cranky, smug, annoyed, superior, and generally knobbish.

      • Floribunda says:

        I’m with you on this Platospopcorn. I’m not finding the engagement debacle remotely interesting or amusing any more. If anything, the whole thing just makes me sad.

        First off, I’m sad about all the venom that’s been directed at Sophie Hunter. As you say, there are two possible scenarios here: either A) she’s so consumed with love for BC that she’s prepared to overlook all the arrogant, patronising and manipulative cr*p that he’s been spouting in recent weeks, as well as (in public, at least) forgoing all of the mutual warmth and support that usually accompanies a burgeoning relationship. Or B) she is so utterly desperate for exposure/money/whatever crumbs HW is prepared to throw her way that she is prepared to sign up to six months’ worth of lies and public vitriol. If they do remain together she is likely to remain forever in his shadow; if this is a sham and they split up she will forever be associated with a (not terribly convincing) act of Hollywood duplicity. Either way, I don’t envy the woman.

        I’m also saddened by the complete transformation we’ve seen in BC’s own public persona. Again, there seem to be several alternatives here: A) He’s always been an arrogant, entitled knob, and is now merely showing his true colours B) He’s pretending to be an arrogant entitled knob in some misguided effort to woo the Academy – in which case he’s every bit as unprincipled and fame-hungry as SH or C) He is currently HW’s puppet, the powers that be are coercing him into acting like an arrogant, entitled knob and he resents this, hence all the recent contradictory and passive-aggressive behaviour. Personally, I tend to favour C), but that’s because BC has come across as such a genuinely lovely person in the past. Whether his previous more sympathetic incarnation was also purely for PR purposes remains to be seen.

        Lastly, call me a hopeless idealist but the thing that saddens me most is that what’s essentially at stake here – the basis for all the PR shenanigans and media manipulation – is essentially an acting prize. This campaign so far has only highlighted to me the fact that, far from chasing a meritocratic award for Best Actor, BC is selling his soul for a dubious prize that is doled out to the biggest media whore/best schmoozer of elderly Academy members/most effective exploiter of Machiavellian tactics. Just hope he finds it all worth his while, and at least some of his fans last the course.

        Phew – sorry guys, that ended up being a bit longer than I’d intended – meant to be getting some other (work-related) writing done, and am procrastinating!

      • EscapedConvent says:

        @Floribunda, I vote for “arrogant, entitled knob.”

        Also, I like your posts.

      • j says:

        i also favor C, he had his previous incarnation before he had real pr or anything and being yourself doesnt cause stress and anger and robot-like talking. plus id be shocked if weinstein was letting a relatively small beans actor run the show

        dont have an issue with Hunter either

        i dont think it’s all about the oscar for him, believe it or not. oscar campaigns bring marketing to smaller movies like this that otherwise maybe wouldnt get it, and also bring an audience that otherwise wouldn’t see it.

      • Ingrid says:

        @Floribunda I agree with you for most parts, but I have to point out that it isn’t just “an acting prize”. We are talking about his entire career. Oscar means better roles, more money, a say in projects, respect and career longevity.

        So faking 6 months for the sake of better, long term career? I would probably do the same.

      • aly says:

        Floribunda: it’s not the acting prize, it’s the power and the career boost that comes with it, the access to better roles and the increase in salary. Even the nomination opens doors that would be otherwise closed to him.
        I think he’s HW’s puppet right now, he’s playing the game, but I roll my eyes at 99% of what he says right now…I dismiss it as bullshit and carry on.
        I don’t feel pity or sympathy for SH in any case, she’s not a victim, she has nothing to lose in this, unlike Ben.

      • j says:

        @ingrid: i KNOW i would. but i’m a better liar than he is I think so I’d pull it off :)

      • Floribunda says:

        @Ingrid @aly Yes, totally get what you’re saying about the power boost and long-term career thing – I guess it’s really that I don’t see the appeal of Hollywood stardom in general tbh. I’d make a lousy celebrity, and the idea of having to engage in deception in order to further my career (rather than getting by on my own merits) makes me shudder! I can see that playing the game is inevitable for those who *do* want to succeed in Hollywood, though, and I know BC wants career longevity, so I suppose I’ll just have to continue with the eye-rolling for the foreseeable future!

        As for SH – yes she certainly has less to lose in this than BC (in career terms, at least) but the one big thing I’d feel I’d be losing if I were in her position is my own self-respect. That’s the part I do pity her for.

        @EscapedConvent Thank you – only discovered CB a couple of weeks ago, but it’s already proving addictive!

      • Floribunda says:

        @j Yes, I think most of us are clinging on to C! :-)

      • j says:

        @Floribunda: honestly I am one of those people who don’t care what a celeb does along as it’s not like mel gibson/cosby awful lol

        c just makes the most sense. covers his anger/misery, obvious pr scripted quotes, the bouncing around answers, and coincides with the entry of weinstein. harvey is spending millions here, hes not going to let an actor dictate things

      • MtnRunner says:

        @Floribunda, well put.

        @Aly, I would argue that an Oscar is no guarantee that better scripts will come an actor’s way. Look at Cuba Gooding, Halle Berry, Charlize Theron, Adrian Brody and Marissa Tomei. Ben has already gotten the acclaim needed to get great scripts; I doubt that an Oscar is going to make that much of a difference. Also, he’s more likely to be given similar roles; that’s the last thing he needs since he’s played enough geniuses at this point.

        Conversely, others have made solid, steady careers and garnered critical acclaim without an Oscar, such as Ed Harris, Bill Murray, Gary Olman, Julianne Moore, John Malcovich and Johnny Depp to name a few. When winning an Oscar is more about politics than anything else, it’s better for him to simply let his work speak for itself.

        It’s sad to see Ben compromise himself at a time when he’s already doing well as an actor and had respect for his work and as a person. I wonder if he’ll think that an Oscar nom will be worth it in the end.

      • OhHey says:

        Clinging on to C myself, the optimist and “I can see through anyone’s bullshit” gut instinct says this isn’t his real persona. One that’s affected for the sake of a movie, even more disappointing but more plausible too.

      • Janet says:

        Sorry, ignant American here… what’s a “knob”?

      • MissMary says:

        @Janet: Knob=d*ck head. So does “bell end”. It refers to, literally, the, er, head or knob end of a penis.

      • Floribunda says:

        Lol, sorry Janet – British slang word for penis. Pretty much interchangeable with wanker/douche/a**hole and all the other expressions used to describe BC’s behaviour on this thread!

      • Alice says:

        To the British posters here a question. – how is all this playing in the UK. To the tabloid press in the USA, BC is exotic, an unknown quantity and they’ll print whatever pr is handed to them. Are cracks appearing in the UK press? I read the latest DM article(the love me, love my …)and there were a lot of negative comments along the lines of “it’s a pr fauxmance”.

        Plus, any sightings of the delicate flower who was seen for a few hours last Monday night, then disappeared?

      • Fanmail says:

        If he wins an Oscar that will be a boon and source of credibility for his career for the rest of his life. It may not mean always great roles, and his career will go up and down most likely, but the Oscar will be mentioned in any piece that will ever be written about him and it will buy him perks and credibility for the rest of his life. In the short term he will make alot more money in Hollywood. It is definitely worth it, if he takes his Hollywood career seriously. I don’t see this as a compromise of himself at all. He’s maybe just playing the game (not playing it very convincingly to us yet), or he really loves SH and is just extremely awkward in public.

      • Floribunda says:

        @Alice I’m in London. BC is obviously better known here than in the US, because of Sherlock’s huge success. I’d say that most people at least know his name (if only because it’s so distinctive!)

        Judging by my own social circle, though, plenty of people have no interest in him beyond knowing him as ‘that odd-looking bloke with the posh name’. Those who are casual fans are either sick of the sight of him (you can’t travel on the Tube at the moment without seeing his face everywhere) or side-eyeing the whole engagement thing (not in an obsessive way – just commenting that it’s all a bit sudden and odd). At the moment, I’d say he still broadly has public sympathy, but there’s a growing mood of ennui and ‘Oh, not him again’ because he’s getting overexposed.

        As far as press goes, the Daily Fail (as it’s widely known here) doesn’t seem to like him much – they’ll print pretty much any fluff about him because it’s click-bait, but I sense they’re waiting for a whiff of scandal so they can properly get their claws into him. The DM has a slightly schizophrenic relationship with ‘posh’ and ‘elite’ people in general, obsessing over them one minute while knocking them down the next, so they’re probably salivating at the thought of an ‘old Harrovian actor falls from grace’ type narrative.

        The Guardian ran an article last week about the historical inaccuracies in TIG, which was quite critical of the film itself but not specifically of BC. A fair few negative comments underneath, some of which were more personally critical towards BC (but re professional integrity rather than engagement stuff).

        Oh, and no confirmed sightings of the Delicate Flower that I’m aware of, but I haven’t exactly been checking!

  15. Felice says:

    I told my friends about this and they said his quote is very similar to what parents say to their kids to guilt trip them into liking their step parent.

  16. gracada says:

    I need to make more popcorn…this keeps getting more and more interesting.

    Really I am going to like her because she’s an “extension” of him?

    No, Benedict. No.

    Just shut up.

    • Etheldreda says:

      I agree. It’s so much fun!

      I used to never be much interested in Cumberbatch and didn’t bother to click on stories about him, except maybe to ogle his gorgeous hands. But ever since this weird ‘engagement’, I find him fascinating. And it just keeps getting better and better!

  17. Sixer says:

    I think he should issue an advisory note. He can explain to his fans what they must wear if they want a selfie. Then, when they get annoyed about it, he can buy Sophie a puppy and offer to look after it when she is working, and that will mollify his fans.

    If it works for one posh Brit, why shouldn’t it work for another?

    (I thought it was all over already. Bugger.)

    • Lilacflowers says:

      What should we wear if we want him to avoid us? He has sent mixed messages about florals.

      • Felice says:

        I think it’s a Regina George situation where florals are Sophie’s thing and we aren’t allowed to wear them :’(

      • Just me says:

        Someone has actually made “lustful cock monster” T-Shirts. That should do the trick.

    • Lindy79 says:

      I’m guessing a Sherlock or Smaug t-shirt will make him eye roll, look bored and bothered and avoid you like the plague in that order.

      • Lilacflowers says:

        But then he’ll think I revere him, which is the opposite of what I would like to convey.

      • Lindy79 says:

        Yeah that’s true. After the Flaunt magazine thing I’d be offended if he even *thought* I wanted to approach him

      • solanaceae (Nighty) says:

        @Lindy79 Flaunt magazine thing?? What happened… I get lost at so many stories…

      • gg says:

        It was Out magazine interview that had the unfortunate floral comment from BC. The Flaunt interview was horribly pretentious but had stunning photos and an even better video

    • Sixer says:

      You must not wear anything chavvy, as this would be unsuitable in the presence of those who announce their engagements in The Times.

      Burberry cap? Out.
      Air Max? Out.
      Anything made by Kappa? Out.
      Furry boots? Out.

      I could go on?

      • lindy79 says:

        No smiling
        Those who normalise their engagement by announcing it in the Times do not smile.

      • Lilacflowers says:

        Trying to remember what I was wearing when I saw him on the Black Mass set. He paid no attention to me whatsoever, thank God. Although that could have been because I wasn’t reverential, just walking by the set in my way to something else instead of watching him film.

        Was definitely wearing silver flipflops.

    • EscapedConvent says:


      Because Sophie won’t be working?

  18. Madly says:

    Been distancing myself from this pr clusterf$&k. No bendy, we don’t have to like her if we like you. That is the line of reasoning from the sycophants on imdb, please stop getting your pr copy from there.

    Meanwhile, I am going to be watching Hiddles dancing videos because he is adorable and know how to promote his ass off.

  19. Platospopcorn says:


    That’s all.

  20. GeeMoney says:

    And the this train wreck just keeps on rolling…

    And how can his fans like someone that he clearly doesn’t even like HIMSELF?!? Is he taking crazy pills (this link explains my feelings on the matter… LOL)?

    I just can’t with this anymore. This terrible road that he is traveling down is breaking my heart.

    • Lucifer says:

      ohhh no. Huge popcornworthy drama. Pls bear with all the episodes.

      • GeeMoney says:

        Oh, I can’t Lucifer. My heart is breaking for him.

        Please let her go, Ben. For the love of God…

      • Lucifer says:

        a few more months. Fortune favours the bravest Geemoney. Lets be brave and hold our hands in this trying time.

      • GeeMoney says:


      • gg says:

        @Lucifer: I’m going to be drinking as much as possible and re-reading “Performance in a Leading Role” (famous Oscar-themed Johnlock fanfic) as much as possible, until spring comes and hopefully things return somewhat to normal in Cumberland

      • aly says:

        gg: I’m going to reread it too…

      • Lu says:

        You guys should read “Northwest Passage,” too, if you haven’t before. It’s a long-form FF set in the wilds of Canada, where John lives in seclusion after leaving the army, and Sherlock is sent there by Mycroft to cool off and keep away fom drugs after he’s bounced out of his latest rehab. It’s very snowy and romantic, so it’s perfect for winter.

      • Claire says:

        Agree with geemoney. This may be a spectacle but this is very sad to watch and I want to give him a huge hug. It is wrong to see this as entertaining.

    • Lindy79 says:

      I genuinely think we’re in the minority in seeing that this situation is a little…odd.
      People either don’t give a fig as they dont know who he is (the majority), are insanely happy (a lot of his sycophantic fans who think he poops unicorns) or us, who sit here scratching our heads and laughing at the absurdity of it.

      • GeeMoney says:

        It only takes a few people to point out things to get the majority talking… trust me. If his PR is aware of this and sane fans are starting to clue others in on his behavior… it’s just a matter of time before others put 2 and 2 together.

      • Lindy79 says:

        True, the only place I chat about it is on here really.
        I’ve given up on IMDB

      • MissMary says:

        Oh, some folks on IMDB are going “wait, what?” SHGO has a screen cap up right now that’s not the usual “omg he’s perf” b.s.

      • Ingrid says:

        @MissMary – I LOVE the irony of IMDB.

        “You shan’t question the engagement! No, he’s definitely not cranky! He’s sooo happy!” and at the same time “He’s cranky because he’s stopped smoking!!!!”

        To conclude: He’s not cranky, but he’s definitely cranky. LOL. :D

        And these people call us crazy?

      • Claire says:

        I think that’s typical of celeb gossip, lindy. Most people only see the surface and don’t question anything. Same goes for politics, social issues and…everything in life. gee is right too, it just takes a few…

    • gg says:

      @GeeMoney: Thank you sooooo much for that!!!!

      For me the all time WTF of this will have to be the “I will be having a very private wedding…..” as in even TWILTWIPT is not invited

    • Claire says:

      Be careful geemoney, suggesting he may be mentally ill will get you accused of being crazy yourself (even though we were all wondering the same at the start)!!

      • GeeMoney says:

        Ha ha ha. I don’t think he’s crazy… and I sure hope people don’t think I am! *worried look on face*

        I guess maybe he’s hoping that his fans will accept whomever ends up becoming the future Ms. Cumberbatch? He does have some rather “aggressive” fans out there. Maybe that’s what he meant.

        But honestly… he needs to like whomever he marries before the public can like her. That’s most important.

  21. tasha_nat says:

    “…if they like me, by extension they like her.” Oh honey. That’s not how it works.

    “…revered in a way that I’ve been by these fans” Ummm, revered? HAHAHAHA.

    I don’t even know what it is that I want him to do for me to start liking him again as a person anymore.

    • Lindy79 says:

      He could invent fat free chocolate and I would still side eye the hell out of him for his carry on this last few months.

    • Madly says:

      True that.

      I was able to look past the odd face because of his personality.

      Take away that, and all I have is the odd face.

    • aly says:

      To be fair, yes the ego is strong with this one, but he’s indeed revered, I mean…have you seen the crowds during Sherlock shooting, at TIFF and LFF? That’s not normal, IMO.

  22. koko says:

    I love my bff, but her husband is a world class as*. And yet she’s still my bff, she still loves me and I her. If you all don’t want to like her, then don’t, if you do then good for you. Why does he care????

    • Lucifer says:

      because he is a control freak

    • MissMary says:

      That is a very manipulative and shaming statement he made. I’ve heard so many a**holes in my life use that. “Well, if you like me, you have to like *other person/thing*.” Implication being, if you don’t, then you’re not really liking them/a fan/a good person/whatever. And BC has enough “ardent” fans who are ready to drink that Kool Aid and make it happen. You can see it on tumblr without any effort. Those “Welcome to the family” posts, the “omg people don’t be mean to Sophie! It hurts ben’s feelings!” posts… If HW is wanting to shake off his “ardent” fans, then this is a crappy statement to make. It’s making those of us with critical thinking skills and, you know, two brain cells, go “Uh, no…” Just because you like someone’s work, or like that person, that doesn’t mean you have like everything about them or everyone they know. Not unless you live in Fantasy Land.

      • j says:

        that seems a bit far imo

        sounds to me like he’s explaining the common thing with celebs when they have a kid or get married and all of sudden their fans like that person too.

      • Victoria says:

        @MissMary (applause) Thank you! You deserve a class of champagne for that post.

      • MissMary says:

        @J: WHat’s he’s saying and what he means may be two different things but we can only go on what he’s saying or is reported to say in print (since we have no idea if those words came out of his mouth or a PR shill’s mouth. I can only relay what it reads like to me. Maybe he meant something much kinder, but I read it as shamey and manipulative.

        @Victoria: Ooooh, champagne! Well, sun’s over the yardarm somewhere! Cheers!

      • Felice says:

        I mean David Tennant’s fans were kinda “eeehhhhh” with his wife when they first started dating. Mostly because they have a 10+ age difference but she showed that she is very sweet and David loves her so his fans like her now too. I just wish that BC would let people think what they want and not say things like this.

      • j says:

        @MissMary, not necessarily kinder (although i guess it goes against the intro paras) but drier? LOL. Like i know what he means, i guess, ive seen that before.

      • lindy79 says:

        Ive never been such a fan of someone
        That i consider them beyond judgement or reproach. No one is infallible. Whether its celebs, or politicians we should always question things.

        I get what you’re saying but hes supposed to be a reasonably intelligent man who has done a fair bit of PR in the last few years so hes not a novice and you’d think when he worded that he had a thought that maybe it would sound a bit off? Especially since hes always been uncomfortable with the whole Cumberbitches thing because he sees it as anti feminist.

        Id rather he’d either not told us we needed to like her or at the most, said he hopes shes treated respectfully. . Like you would anyone else.

      • Lucifer says:

        ^^^^^ THIS @missmary

      • Victoria says:

        @MissMary Well it is Monday (1st day back at work for me) so I’m setting the right tone this week since Thanksgiving is a few days away.

        But yeah, his comments are all I need to know about him. You can really tell what a person is like IRL from their actions, the opposite of what is said, and their tastes. Especially in their taste of a SO. From what I remember about Lupita, what I’ve seen with Keira, and TWIL-TWIPT…it’s been a high level of “???” Makes me wonder if he’s looking for a combination of the former two?

        What do you guys think?

      • j says:

        @lindy79: i think he’s always kinda sucked at press, like he doesnt learn or forgets. doesnt think before he speaks and talks too long, which is a foolish thing to do in print

      • Sunflower says:

        I still think the whole fan-shaming thing is part of the PR plot. It makes it easier to convince people that the ones who are side-eying his engagement are doing it because they’re in love with him and a little on the nutty side. Plus, if things don’t happen to work out between them, it provides a nice out. “It was all too much for the noble, delicate beauty.”

      • lola says:

        Maybe he is looking for that. Who knows, he was very clear about what kind of a woman he’d like to be a mother of his children (god this is so f**ked up) and look who he got engaged to. If he is indeed looking for a combination of the two, the TWILTWIPT is not the one.

        When I read things he says about this messy relationship and his extension reminds me of this sentence: “Most people look for the right person to be with instead becoming the right person to be with.” It seems he has no idea what a relationship, sharing, loving someone more than yourself, devotion … are about. And it seems he has no idea what you have to be like to have a successful fulfilling love life because in his opinion relationship is him and him and him and then if lucky (at least in his opinion) someone else. If he knew any of this, comments on the topic wouldn’t be so absurd. He seems to be absurdly immature and egotistical.

        God knows whom he’s been looking for … I only hope he grows up before he hurts to many hearts.

      • Victoria says:

        @lola I have an idea of who he’s looking for. Just wish the dude was more patient and lived a little more. I’d have to say, the more info that comes out, what he says and all that, it’s really reinforcing what someone else on the past couple threads has been telling us

        Let’s see if she’s right. Oh, and did anyone else see that BI on CDAN? Part of me thinks its usual B.S. but the part had me say “hm?”

      • lola says:

        ” … it’s really reinforcing what someone else on the past couple threads has been telling us.” What is that? That sh is not right for him or sth else?

        The blind item is discussed in comments below and on SoGo.

      • Victoria says:

        @lola Both. I keep thinking about V.L.719′s posts. And I watched that 92Y BC interview, and yeah, I think she’s right. There were a few times where he wasn’t so like how he is now, but when I checked out that book series he mentioned, yeah, it’s likely that situation is in the cards.

        Just check ‘em out for yourself if you haven’t. Some people may call it silly, but I’ve lived long enough to know the world works in the weirdest of ways.

      • lola says:

        Could you just tell me which ones he mentioned? I need to study I shouldn’t spend any more time on this. Thanks in advance.

        And I really wish him to find someone who would sweep him off his feet and help him find stability he needs (before he messes this sh*t even more than it is).

      • lola says:

        :-) Thanks for these but I’ve already read them (crawls under the bush and hide).

        I actually meant which book series did he mention in that 92Y thing? Thanks again.

  23. scout says:

    Not necessary to like Sophie too just because ppl like you, Cumberman but I will definitely like/love your pets if you have any! Seriously!!! Do ya?

  24. Ingrid says:

    OK people, let’s get serious. One thing is very clear at this point:

    1. The enGAGment is used for PR.
    The timing + he talks about it in every interview. Every. Interview. Real or not, it’s used very heavily in the campaign. He doesn’t need to talk about, but he’s constantly talking. He could easily dodge personal questions. He’s very capable of dodging Dr. Strange questions, for example, so it’s not just that reporters ask him about the enGAGment.

    I would have believed the theory that they wanted to publicize the engagement before the press tour as a way for him not having to lie in interviews when they ask if he’s dating someone. Like ripping off a band-aid. But in that case, he would have explained that and said something in the lines of “Thank you. We want to keep it private so I won’t comment any further.” But he hasn’t said that. Instead he keeps talking and talking and talking.

    The conclusion:
    ———>>> If it’s used this much for PR, it’s exactly that. PR.

    Does anyone really believe Harvey & Co doesn’t plan these campaigns? No. It was timed and planned as to maximize BC’s publicity.

    +His Mood
    +Their lack of chemistry
    +Body language
    +His weird terminology
    +Conflicting stories
    +Short relantionship

    • aly says:

      *frames comment*


    • GeeMoney says:

      Conspiracy theory time!

      Or… what if he proposed, things went south (like they do in all dysfunctional relationships) and they broke up? And now he’s stuck “faking” being happily engaged? It would explain his snarky, smug and downtrodden behavior, and the use of “I” instead of “we” all of the time….

      Hmmm. Anyone think I’m on to something?

      • MissMary says:

        I’ve heard it mentioned on some sites that might be the case… I’d buy it, ngl.

      • Ingrid says:

        If that was the case, GeeMoney, I really think he wouldn’t talk about it this much -or at all. He would dodge the questions instead of deliberately giving it more focus and publicity.

      • GeeMoney says:

        How can he dodge the questions when it’s the focus of his Oscar campaign?!? He can’t. He has to talk about it. And he can’t just announce that crap and back out of it like, two days later. That would REALLY make him look like a nut job.

        Think about it. I think they broke up, and now he’s stuck. And b/c he’s not fake and a bad liar… he’s all over the place emotionally.

        Makes sense to me.

      • Ingrid says:

        @GeeMoney -Oh, you meant it is/was half PR, half real? And that the real half went south very quickly?

        Yes, that could be the case.

        I think I misunderstood you earlier and though you meant it was pure real love relationship and engagement.

      • Lucifer says:

        that makes sense.. they were dating no doubt aftr paris pics(still cnt picture those to smiling /kissing)

      • GeeMoney says:

        It’s def not true love. Honestly, I don’t know what it is btw them, but whatever it is, it’s straight up dysfunctional.

        I think since he proposed that he agreed with HW to use it for PR. Then they broke up, and now he’s stuck lying about it. He made an impulsive decision with the wrong person, and now he’s paying for it publicly.

        We all make mistakes. And he has my sympathy. I just hope he can come out of this with his career (and dignity) intact.

      • Green Eyes says:

        @GeeMoney, but why would Sophie stay in it if they’d broken up? There’s absolutely nothing in it for her to stay (unless she’s getting some HW Big Favors).

      • GeeMoney says:

        A few reasons why possibly:

        1) WTF else is she going to do? She has NO JOB.
        2) HW is holding a gun to her head, so she has no choice.
        3) She’s just as much of an emotional mess like he is. Misery loves company. Plus… they could always get back together.

        And lastly…

        4) Hmmm… if I had the opportunity to marry a rich white actor that will take care of me for the rest of my life and allow me to be a housewife while he goes off and works… I might just put up with some crap for a few months or years for that! Note to self… work it out with him…

        There are a lot of women out there who would GLADLY do number 4… and she strikes me as the type.

      • Claire says:

        Geemoney I wondered just that in the days leading up to the ny premiere. Maybe. Maybe.

        I also wondered if her and or her family cottoned on to the strangeness of the timing given how long they dated and her family began voicing concerns. Unless they’re as fame hungry as they appear

    • Linz says:

      @Ingrid. All of that!!!

      • Milly T says:

        GeeMoney– You may be on to something. I think it is absolutely possible. I guess what bothers me the most is the comment about only needing the support of the woman he loved. I thought about his friends and family . They have loved and supported him for many years and have no doubt that what ever is going on in his life they will continue to do so. In the end, the people that love us the most will be there. Who knows, maybe this will be a learning experience for him. But in the meantime he is acting like a jerk.

      • GeeMoney says:

        @Milly T
        Maybe he means her support is the one that truly matters? Helps him get through the day? Friends and family are always there to support, no doubt.

        But there are different types of support. And the support of a spouse I’d like to think goes a long way. This is the person who’s supposed to be by your side through thick and thin, more so than a family member or a friend. And gives the type of loving, emotional support that only can be fulfilled by the person you truly share your life with.

        So maybe that’s what he means. Just a guess.

    • gracada says:

      And I am finding in some of the interviews….the enGAGment comes up before talking about the movie.

      Yeah, he wanted to be private and such…ask for privacy put your foot down and mouth shut. The press for the most part will respect it.

      HOWEVER….if you ask for privacy and then start talking about it…all bets are off.

      And I don’t like her. I’ve had a bad vibe about her since FO.

      • Lucifer says:

        same pinch

      • Maria says:

        I don’t have a dog in this fight, but I do wonder if she isn’t trying to Yoko Ono her career off of his much more successful one?
        I’m hoping though that it’s a meeting and matching of similar minds, because who needs to be in a dysfunctional relationship or to watch one, even from a polite distance as it goes through its contortions.
        Ah well.
        At least she’s safely from his sort of social class. Birds of a feather, ya know.

    • Alice says:

      @GeeMoney. Is this a multiple choice test? I go with answer #4.

  25. ellesbelles says:

    I don’t KNOW her, so how the #^%$ am I supposed to like her? All I’ve got is awkward premiere photos and the constant pounding of how busy she is. If you want your fans to like her, stop telling them to, and tell us WHY she makes your heart sing.

    I have no F***ks to give about how talented she is, or what she does in the theater. Congrats, you have a job. So do I. I draft metal buildings. Its not overly exciting, but I don’t shine up my CV to say I built the statue of liberty. Where is my engagement announcement in the times, hmm?

    ETA, I’ve written my own.

    Mr. T.B.C Hiddle-batch-blue (I like a few english gents) and Miss E. Belles are thrilled to announce their engagement. Mr Hiddle-batch-blue is from a few places in England and Ms Belles is from somewhere in the USA. They all plan on being massively happy together and promise to not look awkward at premieres because they actually like eachother. They will split their time between England and the USA and not act like pretentious twats that hate eachother

    • Grace says:

      Hehehehehehe! Your comment made me laugh so hard I have tears in my eyes.

      Though I would like to say, whoever PR person, if you are reading, please don’t get BC to talk about their romance history or his tender feelings towards her any more than he has already done. If the fanfics he told about Irene and Sherlock, or Sherlock being a beast between sheets are anything to go by, he sucks at making this kind of stuff up. We don’t want anything like that ever again. No. Just no.

      • ellesbelles says:

        I’d fancy getting to know any of the three gents I mentioned in my “announcement” better, thats for sure. Right now Tom is leading the pack, hence top billing :D

      • Grace says:

        @Miss E. Belles, may I congratulate you on your very fine taste?

  26. MtnRunner says:

    If Ben wants us to like the woman he loves/the woman he proposed to as much as *he appears to* in their photos, then he should be pleased the Celebitches response.

  27. Lilacflowers says:

    I was really impressed with Jake Gyllenhall’s performance in Nightcrawler. The movie itself is quite mixed but his performance is totally off-the-wall edgy and AMPAS voters do like him.

    • aly says:

      Err…God, I wish, but they totally snubbed him for Prisoners last year, and he was amazing in it, I hold out hope he’ll make it.

    • Felice says:

      He was so great in that. The reviews for the film itself are lukewarm though and I think it’s because of the ending.

    • Lilacflowers says:

      Other performances that impressed me this year were: Philip Seymour Hoffman in “A Most Wanted Man”, Ralph Fiennes in GBH; Tom Hardy in “Locke; John Lithgow in “Love is Strange”; Jeremy Renner in “Kill the Messenger”; and, Redmayne, Keaton, and Murray. I was looking forward to seeing TIG on Thanksgiving but they moved it so I’ll see Steve Carrell’s Foxcatcher instead. Don’t know when I’ll see TIG now. Bad move, Harvey!

      • MtnRunner says:

        Foxcatcher and ToE for me this week. Let’s compare notes. I’m most excited for Mr. Turner on Dec 19th, however.

        TIG can wait… not rushing to see that one before Christmas.

      • Lilacflowers says:

        Independent Spirit nominations are out and “Nightcrawler”, “Birdman,” “Boyhood,” and “Love is Strange” are getting lots of love. Plus OLLA got a nod for screenplay and Tilda for lead actress.

    • icerose says:

      that one interests me as well.

    • Grace says:

      That’s the movie I wanna see.

    • Coco says:

      He is really amazing in it, but sadly he won’t be nominated, academy voters love biopics and Nightcrawler is too dark.

  28. Cate says:

    So Benedict likes all the significant others of his friends and family? Good for him. I’m not that lucky apparently as just this weekend I had a bf of one of my friends spewing racist and homophobic remarks and I had to tell him off. Quite upsetting. But I should just like him because I like my friend? Well, thanks Benedict, great advice!

    • Ingrid says:

      Apparently BC thinks that being a fan equals to unconditional love.

      Dear Benedict, it doesn’t. It’s actually quite the opposite, if you think about it.

      • Cate says:

        Indeed, indeed, although some nannies seem to agree with him. Apparently he’s made of candy floss and marshmallows. ;-)

      • OhHey says:

        Oh god, you cannot MAKE a negative comment on Twitter to a nanny-fan-ass-smoochy poster, they make excuses, won’t hear of anything negative, poor Benny, so misunderstood, he just can’t win, blah blah blah, and I’m now like “I’m calling BS on this whole thing”. I’m sure I am about to be unfollowed en masse by those whom I have not already unfolllowed for their blind gushing. Dammit, he disappointed me. I want an apology, a sincere one.

    • Maria says:

      Actually the last time I remember reading this sort of vehement skirmishing was when Damian Lewis and Helen McCrory became a couple. His die hard fans were totally loving it all up and snarling at anyone who wasn’t enthusiastic about them.
      A number of fans bailed from his fan site after that.

  29. Linz says:

    Interesting and f**cking strange.. lol

    ( Copied and pasted quotes. Some stuff added/some of the wording is different. And some ass kissing..

    “It’s an amazing thing to find somebody you love. It’s amazing to find somebody you love at all, let alone somebody who loves you back in the same way and to the same degree,” he told British magazine Hello! “And if that is amazing, well, considering how busy both Sophie and I are, it’s a minor miracle that we met each other at all in the way we did.” (“It’s a minor miracle, considering how busy we BOTH are (laughs), that we met in this way.” —

    “To have Sophie in my life is something I am incredibly grateful for and very excited about. It’s a bit of a golden moment for me right now and I am loving it. I think I’ll be having a very private wedding,” he said.” (So, Sophie is someone I am incredibly grateful for and very excited about.”

    “I wish people wouldn’t call them that. My fans are incredibly smart and expressive people and Cumberb***hes was a name that some of them thought to call themselves early and it just caught on,” he said. “But what they really are is a bunch of self-regulating, intelligent, witty, creative, inspiring and determined young people – or if they’re not young, they’re young in spirit. And by the way, they come from both sexes too. I’m sure they’ll get over my being engaged – they’re smart, they’ll get used to the idea.”

    • EleanorRigby says:

      I’ve gotten used to you being engaged, Benedict. What I haven’t gotten used to is you being a huge douche canoe.

      • **sighs** says:

        He is the biggest douche canoe they currently make. He is the blueprint of *the* douche canoe. I could paddle across the Atlantic in that douche canoe.

      • Floribunda says:

        Ha – that’s awesome EleanorRigby – douche canoe pretty much sums it up!

        That’s exactly it, though; as much as we’d like to, no one’s being *allowed* to forget about the engagement thing, because he keeps mouthing off about it in an increasingly cringe-worthy fashion. As much as the tabloids keep obsessing over the flailing among his fans, the person who seems to be doing most of the flailing is BC himself.

      • OhHey says:

        EleanorRigby, LOL……

    • **sighs** says:

      We don’t have anything to get over you gigantic egomaniac!!!

      I am, however, completely over your total pr sham engagement and all the backhanded compliments/digs at your fanbase!

    • Sunflower says:

      Notice how in the second story they’ve taken a direct quote and made it look like he actually used her name?

    • EscapedConvent says:

      @ Linz,

      Well, these are some odd quotes. How is it a miracle that they met in the way that they did? They met five years ago when they were both in “Burlesque Fairytales.” Was that a miracle?

      2. He’s having a golden moment, but then told another reporter who asked about his Golden Moment that he didn’t believe in having “moments.” That’s not what this is, he said.

      3. Quite a 180° on the use of the word “Cumberbitches.” It used to upset him so much. Now, I guess it’s okay. Glad I wasn’t depending on him to tell me what I shouldn’t call myself.

      I also think it’s very, very odd and thoughtless as hell for a newly engaged person to tell the world about the huge crush he has on someone else. In this case, Naomi Watts. I don’t know what you would be thinking, to talk publicly about having a crush under these circumstances. Quote: “I have such a crush on her. She’s gorgeous. I know she’s married….”

      To sum up, I am still a Cumberbitch, but my head is spinning.

      • ellesbelles says:

        I just watched the trailer for Burlesque Fairytales. I dont care how good he looks, that movie looked like crap

      • Cate says:

        That Naomi Watts quote was some weird timing to me as well. He never really mentioned any celebrity and/or actress crushes before and now when he’s engaged he comes up with this. Maybe it’s his way to rebel, haha.

      • Just me says:

        I have seen Burlesque Fairytales and yeah god awful.

      • Emily says:

        1) He’s not engaged and can’t help himself from letting it slip in his behavior.
        2) He’s trying to hurt her feelings. Or is railing against the hw machine for some reason. Maybe both.
        3) He’s gay and overcompensating with not only the engagement but all the talk of his sexual prowess and attempt at a macho man image. His oscar makeover is complete overkill with no logical reason as to why it’s been that aggressive.
        4) He’s simply a jerk that isn’t interested in being faithful.
        5) He’s a man. A man who for the first thirty some odd years of his life saw himself as unattractive in a shallow field. He realized plenty of people actually do want him. He’s a kid in a candy store. Getting everything he can while the getting is good. (my money is on 5)

        Sidenote: He once told an 18 year old olympian swimmer that he was, “getting stiff just listening to her.” Make what you will of that.

      • Soothy says:

        Oh come on, the stiff comment to the swimmer was clearly completely innocent and just ended up sounding like innuendo.

    • maria says:

      Did he really say those things or are someone mocking him? I really (really) can’t tell.

  30. Miss M says:

    Obey, cumber(uncollective), obey your master! Hahahah

  31. blended says:

    I just think he doesn’t know how to handle the weird situation he’s in right now, so he ends up making awkward sentences and sounding like a jerk. He really doesn’t want to talk about the engagement but he’s being forced to by PR (and if by now there are those of you who still don’t believe it’s for PR, I’m not sure we’ll ever agree on anything).
    Just think back to his past behaviour. This is very unlike him. He is normally a gentleman. He even still refers to Olivia by name if it comes up. This whole deception is making him not be himself.

  32. Lucifer says:

    i thought i shall be a graceful woman and not laugh when this ends. but NOW ohh i will laugh my a$$ off

  33. Katie says:

    Oh Cumbie, you underestimate the crazy. Never underestimate the crazy. Your women fans will hate Sophie because she’s “the other woman”. Never. Never. Underestimate that level of insanity.

  34. 'P'enny says:

    And, no one has commented that Tom Hiddleston has gone one step further and been caught wearing a wedding ring in a coffee shop. Yes, he’s got married!!!!!!! [cough, forgot to take off prop]

    to moi! yes lilacflowers, he’s now my secret husband.

    • Felice says:

      Congratulations! I take it you were invited to your own wedding

    • Ingrid says:

      I acknowledge that if TH actually is married, 2014 would be known as The. Worst. Year. For. Women. Everywhere (think about it: Clooney, Gosling, Cumberbatch, Hiddleston. Ouch).

      But I sort of hope it’s true because it would show Otter A$$hat how to do “private”.

      But it’s a prop. 99% sure.

    • **sighs** says:

      Lilac is going to be none too happy at this news ‘p’enny. You best watch yourself.

      • 'P'enny says:

        well, it will teach Lilac to trust me with him while i took him for a fitting at alexander mcqueens…. ‘evil laugh’

      • Lilacflowers says:

        @’s'ighs, please just humor her. I’ve had a guardianship placed over him so nothing he says or signs is valid unless I approve it.

      • **sighs** says:

        You’re so smart, Lilac. That’s why he’s with you ;)

    • ellesbelles says:

      not going to lie, I had a mini heart attack just now , because I totally forgot about ISTL.

      I’ll see myself over to the Hiddles first aid tent

    • Ellen says:

      But isn’t that a prop ring he’s forgotten to take off though? When’s he had time to get married? Not that this mrs fassy cares. ;-)

      • 'P'enny says:

        i took him to that pink Elvis themed Chapel on the way home and sat on him – he couldn’t move for 48 hours.

    • Grace says:

      One question, are you as sharing as Lilac?

    • InvaderTak says:

      Oh you. Trying to drive as many fandom lemmings off a cliff as possible. lol He was there with Elizabeth Olsen right?

    • Ellen says:

      I so have popcorn for when Liliac arrives. Unless Hiddles hoodwinked both of you and is embracing bigamy

    • koko says:

      Perhaps a little “net” neglect has affected his memory. I mean he’s been fairly quiet while others are consuming our time.
      Feeling a bit left out of all this marriage talk.

    • Lilacflowers says:

      Ah, welcome, sister wife ‘p’enny. Please do bear in mind that as First Wife, I have more special privileges. Now, is there any particular reason you chose a ring that is too large for our dear husband’s lovely, tapered finger? That one is in danger of falling off whenever he straightens his finger in a downward facing position. Or did you intend it for Hugh Laurie?

      • 'P'enny says:

        The ONE ring is a bit big on Tom, I bought it when he was in his full on Coriolanus broad lovely physique and now he’s lost to much weight so it’s slipping off him. I am feeding him up with loads chocolate – eating by proxy [im still dieting]. I was a bit mean there, we did agree to share Tom, so I shall return for him Christmas. After all Tom is for life, not just for Christmas.

        Now, Hugh Laurie got dumped at the weekend, well he dumped me. His singing the blues all the time was driving me nuts. He has an awful singing voice, and well I told him so, and we had a massive row and microwaved his record collection.

        And, sadly, [NOT] i am now banned from the Hugh and Tom duet in concert, which is probably a good thing for my ears.

      • **sighs** says:

        Ha! I’m imagining the microwaved records. It isn’t pretty.

    • OhHey says:

      Uh, no ladies, he’s now secretly married to me, I told him to take that ring off or it would cause trouble but he forgot, now the secret’s out. We’re expecting triplets so he’s going to be far too busy to be with his ‘other’ wives. Some things you just can’t juggle, y’know?

    • Camil says:

      ‘P’enny, you could be his secod wife but I am his queen!!!


  35. jammypants says:

    I find it weird he never says her name. Ever.

    • 'P'enny says:

      that gets me too, totally confuses me. It’s not a difficult name, it’s not like penguin? he can’t get it wrong. Can he?

      maybe has a pet name for her, and calls her babe all the time, save him slipping up in bed and calling her someone else, like…

    • Ellen says:

      Because Sophie is his hostage and she’s beneath him in his warped mind. Sophie doesn’t look happy yet we’ve seen her look happy in other photos with other people.

      As for the dress 4k is a lot of money so she’d want to get her money’s worth

      • GeeMoney says:

        Yeah, 4K pounds for a dress that’s HIDEOUS. I’m pretty sure she could have found one a whole hell of a lot cheaper that was just as ugly.

        Sorry to be so snarky… but damn.

      • OhHey says:

        Those appliques nicely disguise a baby bump though, just sayin’.

      • Dara says:

        I guess I’m one of the few that doesn’t mind the dress – I thought it was rather pretty, and the workmanship and tailoring are spot on. My issue is that it’s so distinctive you can’t really wear it twice – especially in quick succession – but since she didn’t formally pose for photos the first time in London I can give it a pass.

        You can’t really go super cheap for things that are being photographed – the quality (or lack thereof) of the fabric really shows in HD photographs, especially at night with the camera flashes. Personal taste not withstanding, I thought the dress photographed very well.

      • Green Eyes says:

        I think Lady Sophie is in a competition with Princess Charlene as to who can look the most miserable in a relationship.

      • OhHey says:

        Green Eyes, ROFL, Princess Charlene always looks like she’s about to collapse in agony…

      • Ingrid says:

        Green Eyes & OhHey -The true winner of The Face of Misery In A Relationship is the man of the hour himself: Benedict Cumberbitch.

      • Claire says:

        Greeneyes, you’re not implying Princess Charlene is in a fake relationship now are you?????? ;)

      • Ellen says:

        Sophie isn’t quite Hostage Charlene yet but at least her husband looks and sounds happier with her. Charlene has always been miserable so hopefully when the babies arrive she’d look more happier.

  36. **sighs** says:

    I will direct you all to blind item #3 at c-dan. Yes, I know they pull most things out of their butt, but still. It’s funny. Or not funny.

    • 'P'enny says:

      she had a panic attack because someone offered her a job and she panicked at the thought of earning a living. Has she actually returned back to london yet, she has some packing to do, i would have thought, needs to move into his flat at some point?

    • Claire says:

      A few have mentioned it, copy please? (I can’t navigate that site on my phone bc of the layout)

      • gg says:

        There are short marriages and this could be a very short engagement. This foreign born A- list mostly television actor who does do some movies and everyone seems to find attractive rushed the whole engagement thing and his betrothed had no idea what she was getting into or the secrets she would have to keep and it is all getting too much for her. Apparently she had a panic attack the other night while having dinner with friends and had to be helped out of the restaurant.

  37. Nursedarry says:

    *brain fizzled to slow and then stalled abruptly at HB3 suggestion* For me, the salient point of this entire piece was the (however spuriously proposed) Pine-Cumberbatch combination.

    What?! At least there was some chemistry there…

  38. Just me says:

    “And since the woman I’m engaged to is as much a part of me as anything else in my life, if they like me, by extension they like her”

    Awww! He’s so romantic. He makes her sound like a suspicious wart that’s popped up and needs to be removed. “If you love me, love my wart!”

    And saying his fans are “smart, they’ll get used to the idea.”

    Does he have any idea how patronizing that sounds? He might as well have said “I know I’m hot stuff. I know you want me, but tough. You’re out of luck. Now run along, be good little girls and cry yourself to sleep at night.”

    No, just no. We don’t care that you’re engaged. We’re annoyed because your acting like a d**k.

    Although tbh, I can’t even get angry anymore. And that’s really telling. If you’re going through a break-up and you’re still fighting it means you’re still emotionally invested. That fact the I just shrug now and think “Yeah, whatever dumba$$” means the actor/fan relationship really is ending.

    And from what I’ve read here and on other boards, I don’t think I’m the only one. At the rate that his fan base is eroding it may not be long before there’s nothing left.

    • Grace says:

      Whoever is writing the script for him, it’s not working. Please stop. I used to think he’s this dorky, likeable guy who’s become this accidental sex symbol but has enough self-awareness to be embarrassed and gracious about the whole thing. I know he has the tendency to say awkward and problematic things. But lately it’s all too much. He’s worked very hard for a long time to get where he is now. Please stop making him the laughing stock across the pacific. He doesn’t deserve this. His fans don’t deserve this. Is it so hard to understand?

    • OhHey says:

      Oddly, the fannies and cray crays they were trying to shed with this PR campaign and sham engagement are the only ones who will be left, the sensible fans who see him acting like a disingenuous prick will have moved on and left him in the dust. Maybe in about five years he can have a comeback…as a new single person or someone who married for love quietly out of the public eye.

  39. Lightbulb596 says:

    I presume most of you have noticed the second strange anomaly in the enGAGment ad in the Times? I am not talking about the missing initial but something else. I noticed it straight away and it seemed odd, but I just dismissed it. But having read one of ben’s interviews in the last seven days he mentions something relevant and it came back to me. Don’t want to say anymore in case ‘PR’ are reading this but intrigued to know if anyone else has noticed?

    • Felice says:

      That Wanda wasn’t called Wanda Ventham?

      • Soothy says:

        Cumberbatch is Wanda’s official name. Ventham’s her ‘stage’ name. Same as Tim being credited as ‘Carlton’.

    • ellesbelles says:

      I’m looking at it and only noticing the missing initial… now you have me intrigued!

      ETA, I see her mom kept her married name, but so did mine when my parents split.

      • Lightbulb596 says:

        I like your thinking but it’s nothing to do with her parents. It’s the link between something in the ad and something ben actively chose to comment on this week in an interview

      • Lucifer says:

        is it wanda cumberbatch?

    • anon says:

      I hate when people play these games.

    • Floribunda says:

      Not sure what you’re getting at, though – something to do with how the names are used, perhaps?

      I did notice they left out some of the usual ‘social niceties’ from the announcement – e.g. using Mr and Mrs instead of just parents’ names, and putting ‘only son’/'eldest daughter’ or whatever, but assumed they just wanted it to read in a slightly less formal way.

    • KatC says:

      Do you mean that his father’s not called “Carlton?” Where he was talking about his father’s name being Timothy Carlton?

    • Lunar says:

      Does it have to do with Edinburgh?

      Hello, I’m new, not a nanny. Been (ha) a fan of Cumberbatch for about a little over a year. Fell for him because of Sherlock. 3rd season wasn’t all that great to me. I liked him as a person because of his goofiness. Now, I’m one foot out the door. Not liking his arrogance lately. I don’t really follow his magazine interviews, but I read the insert about Sherlock from Elle magazine and became iffy when the reporter said something along the lines of women falling in love with Sherlock and his response was “not my problem”. Yeah, that kind of made me side eye him. This whole situation is side eye worthy. Anyway. Just wanted to pop in and say hello, maybe I’ll join in more but I’m enjoying you ladies commentary more.

    • Victoria says:

      I think I know what your talking about but for the life of me I’m having that “tip of the tongue” moment….was it an interview from later in the week or early last week?

    • Claire says:

      Aah good to see my idea of keeping one’s deductions to oneself so PR doesn’t get a hold of it and drag this farce on even further is working :)

      I haven’t noticed anything else will have a look though unless it’s the groom’s name first (brought up previously).

  40. Lucifer says:

    check out imdb even they r sounding suspicious

    • Floribunda says:

      Don’t normally bother with imdb, so just had a quick look – all I’m saying is the ‘Engagement Truthers’ thread does have a helluva lot of posts for somewhere that’s usually so uncritical…

    • angela says:

      It’s surely because of gems like this:
      The year is 2025. Benedict Cumberbatch and Sophie Hunter welcome their third child into the world. Benedict has recently won his second Oscar.

      A blogger’s fingers fly over their keyboard. “I’m telling you, it’s fake. They named the baby Oliver for god’s sake. After Olivia. His one true, fan approved love. They’re just holding out until he wins the Jean Hersholt Humanitarian Award. You’ll see.”

      • Felice says:

        That’s preposterous, why would he still have any fans by then?

      • Ingrid says:

        @Felice -LMFAO

      • angela says:

        If you guys are over him, why are you not relenting? Why are you still over here? How come you haven’t fixated yet on another poor schmuck from poor Britannia?

      • aly says:

        I’m still a fan, I’m just o.O at the stupid soundbytes.

      • Felice says:

        Yeah I think he’s absolutely amazing as an actor but if he continues this train wreck I may peace out.

      • aly says:

        I think I might stop reading articles and interviews, the second hand embarrassment is becoming too much…and I want to keep enjoying his work.

      • Just me says:

        I saw his old Graham Norton appearance over the weekend (for Fifth Estate). He was totally fan-boying over Harrison Ford and I thought “There. See that’s why I like him. He’s a goofy dork.” I felt that soft spot I used to have for him. And every time I start to relent and feel bad for the guy he comes up with nonsense and I feel myself harden towards him again.

        Why can’t he just stop? I really would like to be his fan again. If he would just stop with the fan digs and back-handed complements. All that just ends up sounding like he’s patting us on the head going “Nice doggie, good doggie. Sit. Roll-over”

        At this point, I don’t think he could say anything that I would believe. It all sounds so patronizing. That’s why I keep hoping he’ll just stop but I don’t think he can help himself, the poor bastard. He just needs to go away for awhile. How can we miss him, if he never goes away.

      • Cate says:

        Hmmmm, how about this:

        “The year is 2025 and Benedict is nearing his midlife crisis. He dusts off his motor bike and hooks up with a cool 25 year-old that he calls his ‘the love of his life’. He hangs out a lot with his ‘friend’ Johnny Depp while their second marriage kids play together.”

        Or let’s just be nice:

        “The year is 2025 and Benedict stares at the beautiful sunset. He feels right at home in beautiful NZ, in a cottage near the sea. He at least spends 6 months a year here nowadays. Sometimes he still wakes up in a cold sweat, remembering the ’14/’15 Oscar campaign and how he had to go along with that PR circus. He had to throw away two containers full of cupcake toppers and scrapbook albums, but he made it trough it. He now casually dated a nice local woman and adopted 3 kids by himself.” THE END.

        Choose your own adventure I’d say… ;-)

      • Claire says:

        In 2025….when she’s 47.

        Someone needs to tell them how babies are made.

        Also, I first talked about comparing it favourably to truthers in the days following, I want royalties for that! Lol

  41. noneyadambus says:

    Someone mention Ben not being able to say Sophie. He does have a lissspp… *PR team are you listening?* But I know people that call their SO’s things like dear, sweetheart, darling, love, etc. Also the first thing the teach you in debate class, if your opponent is winning, change the narrative! Watch a politician. If they are talking greenhouse gas and losing the audience the next question NO MATTER what it is, is answered about something else. Like “Mr. Senator, how do you plan to save the planet? I’m glad you asked about my policies, let me tell you how I plan to move forward on the tax incentives.” LOL I know that’s not an exact quote or perfect example but you get the drift. THIS is what Ben’s PR needs to be doing. Changing the narrative to how a small movie is making against the big name pictures. TIG is an independent movie, right. All the other movies started out as studio films. I’d use that. Underdog stories always work.

    • anon says:

      @noneyadambus You stole my thoughts! I was thinking the exact same thing during his 2 week press tour. If you don’t like the talking points of the interviewer, change the narrative. “How do you feel about being engaged?” Answer: It feels great, just as great of the feeling of making this movie because Alan Turing is and the message of is profound and will resonate with anyone that has ever been an outcast in society.

      The above may not be my best, but celebrities should take tips from good politicians on how to change narratives. I strongly feel that good interviews (with no so great interviewers) are those in which the interviewee controls the conservation. If you don’t like a subject, find a way to redirect the subject without being pissy. Take note, PR.

    • Dara says:

      Or – “My own recent success and personal happiness emphasizes for me the tragedy of Turing’s life and all that was denied him. Not only recognition and acclaim for his profound achievements but the freedom to find someone to love and share his life without the fear of persecution and personal ruin.”

      Add a few platitudes about what an honor and privilege it is to portray such an important figure, etc. etc. and you’re good to go.

  42. Ingrid says:

    From People via Daily Fail: “She’s just really cool”
    Cool as in icy? I would agree with you, Benedict.

    So, so loving statements again…
    *Caaan you feeel the loooove tonight*

    • ellesbelles says:

      You know who else is really cool? The guy at starbucks who adds an extra shot to my frappe and doesnt charge me. But I’m not going to get engaged to him am I??

    • gracada says:

      Cold as Ice is now playing in my head…..wonder why?

    • MissMary says:

      My fourth grade bf told people I was really cool.

      That’s the last time that was an acceptable way to describe your SO.

  43. Andrea says:

    I don’t care that he is engaged, in fact I was quite happy for him, but now, I just don’t know. He doesn’t appear happy in the least, he is acting like a jerk, or at least is coming off that way and is not presenting himself in any way that he has the past several years. Is this the real him because if so, I am definitely off of his train or is this the bumblings of PR? I really would be surprised if he actually marries her/appears happy in any way with her.

    • Linz says:

      Please!! Make him STOP! When will he shut the f**k up about it? He STILL can’t say her name……

      “And in the Monday issue of People, Benedict Cumberbatch talked about why he likes his 36-year-old soon-to-be-wife so much.

      ‘She’s just really cool,’ the 38-year-old actor, who is promoting his new movie The Imitation Game, offered.
      Benedict shared that, despite developing a worldwide fandom, he wants to keep his private life as normal as possible.

      ‘I want to normalize this part of our lives,’ the Sherlock star shared.

      However, that doesn’t mean that the meme-inspiring British star isn’t head over heels for his new fiancée who he met on the set of 2009′s Burlesque Fairytale.

      He explained to the magazine that she flawlessly handles the abundance of adoration from Benedict’s many adoring fans.

      ‘She’s proud of my work, she’s proud of me, and she loves me,’ he said. ‘That’s the bottom line, isn’t it? That’s one of the reasons it’s a good fit. It could be a really difficult thing, but she’s just so in command of it.’

      However, while the star was open about his admiration for his future wife, he was mum on whether or not they’ll be quick to start a family, saying: ‘I’ve got to be very coy on that one. Very silent.’”

      • Soothy says:

        Is this the people in the US again? Jebus, they’re running articles on this every single day aren’t they?
        This is ridiculous.

      • Ingrid says:

        That’s just pure comedy gold :D

      • ellesbelles says:

        She handles it so flawlessly that she just stays home most of the time

      • anon says:

        Although it’s a word, I hate hearing it. “Normalize”. I have never heard anyone use normal as a verb throughout secondary school or college.

      • Grace says:

        *waving a white flag* *face-palming*

        All I got from that article was he must be sneering while he talked because he sounded like a smug arsehole.

        Just. Stop. Talking. You’re not normalising anything! If you want it to be normal, stop talking.

      • Laetitia says:

        ‘She’s proud of my work, she’s proud of me, and she loves me,’ he said. ‘That’s the bottom line, isn’t it? That’s one of the reasons it’s a good fit. It could be a really difficult thing, but she’s just so in command of it.’

        I am sorry, I read the above as: She tells me how great I am and how great my work is hence why we’re a good fit. This is what makes her great.

      • Ingrid says:

        @Laetitia -Yes, he sure is a catch :D

        I cannot take anything this man says seriously any more. I’m beyond being angry, confused or trying to explain anything. This is just pure amusement at this point.

        To be fair, this is The Daily Fail paraphrasing People paraphrasing BC. But still, hilarity.

      • lindy79 says:

        I sincerely hope now that all the silly bints who banged on about how the Times was classy and “not like People” kindly shut their cake holes because hes now sold his soul to them three times talking about his private engagement.

        This one is the worst of the lot as hes now stoking baby rumours. He can f*ck right off.

        ‘I want to normalize this part of our lives,’
        By speaking to every publication about it and now I’m being coy about starting a family. How utterly normal!

        However, that doesn’t mean that the meme-inspiring British star isn’t head over heels for his new fiancée
        Now watch him say hundreds of great things about how great she is….. oh….

        He explained to the magazine that she flawlessly handles the abundance of adoration from Benedict’s many adoring fans.
        *sicks in own mouth*

        ‘She’s proud of my work, she’s proud of me, and she loves me,’ he said. ‘That’s the bottom line, isn’t it? That’s one of the reasons it’s a good fit. It could be a really difficult thing, but she’s just so in command of it.’

        “She thinks I’m the dogs balls” i have nothing positive to say other than how fab she thinks I am. Its all centric to me and my life that she just accepts…so thats why i love her. She shuts up and puts up. (Seriously folks he just said that in a fancy way)
        “a good fit”…how romantic.

        “He was mum on whether or not they’ll be quick to start a family, saying: ‘I’ve got to be very coy on that one. Very silent.’

        Urgh. Shut up!! Urgh!! Well you’ve already sold your soul. May as well go the whole hog and stir up baby rumours.
        Benedict Kumberdashian lives!

      • Grace says:

        I intend to read poetry, have a huge night cup with lots of whisky in it, and listen to Gotan project for the rest of the evening. Really I need to unsee that article. Enough, you 38 year old man-child!

      • Felice says:

        @lindy this honestly sealed the deal for me that he needs to be coddled by whomever he marries. Sham or not.

      • lindy79 says:

        The only positive things he says are relating to him, to his career. Not one word about her as a person, independent of what she does for him or even just “we’re happy, we make each other happy, we’re a great team”
        I’m just…wow… god…

      • Felice says:

        But at least she’s a Cool Girl

      • **sighs** says:

        Me, me, me, me oh and more of me!

        What a wanker. Yuck. I never thought in a million years I would actually be disgusted by him.

        Lindy & Laetitia- ITA with you both.

      • Platospopcorn says:



        ETA: At this point, I honestly think I’ll wait until TIG comes out on DVD to watch it. Never in a million years did I imagine myself saying such a thing, but there it is. I do want to see the film, but I went to see The Theory of Everything a couple of nights ago, and I think I’ll just leave my ticket purchase “vote” with that film. Pretty sure my personal choices won’t matter, but that’s my conviction at present.

        Thanks, again, PR. >:(

      • aly says:

        Christ…I’ve facepalmed in real life reading this.
        Shit, son…shut up, please…this is SO awkward. *shakes head*

      • Ingrid says:

        I don’t think he’s a wanker or d*ck.

        It’s just that he’s not in love with her. That’s why he keeps talking about himself.

        If a person is in love with someone, he talks about that person. CONSTANTLY. He isn’t. He doesn’t give a rat’s a$$ about her so it’s “I-I-me-myself-I-me”

        PR Train

      • Floribunda says:

        ‘She’s proud of my work, she’s proud of me, and she loves me,’ he said. ‘That’s the bottom line, isn’t it? That’s one of the reasons it’s a good fit. It could be a really difficult thing, but she’s just so in command of it.’

        Umm… well, no, actually, Benedict dear, generally the ‘bottom line’ in a successful relationship is that you LOVE EACH OTHER. And what the f**k does ‘she’s just so in command of it’ mean? His quotes are beginning to sound like they’ve been through Google translate.

        That’s it – I’m off in search of wine and a good book to avoid any more of this tw*ttery. Poor Sophie.

      • aly says:

        Ingrid, I don’t think he’s a dick or a wanker either… but…
        “she’s proud of my work” Gee…Ben, ’cause that’s the basis of a lasting relationship? Man, if I thought they were really together I’d say they’re screwed.
        If they are really together: Sophie, hun, run the fuck away…he’s in love with his work, then himself…then, maybe, you.

      • **sighs** says:

        See, I’ve always thought he was slightly arrogant, but before it was kind of endearing. A personality quirk, if you will.
        Now it’s amplified. I guess I’m leaning towards the, he’s always been an arrogant prat and now he’s just showing it train.
        I really don’t want to be on that train. Pr, can he please rectify this complete mess and get me off this train?

      • Soothy says:

        The poor Sophie stuff doesn’t really wash for me. Nobody knows anything about her.

        I think he’s saying some weird stuff but I don’t think he deserves to be demonised.

      • aly says:

        “”I really don’t want to be on that train. Pr, can he please rectify this complete mess and get me off this train”"

        co signed.
        It feels all so false, so hollow. *shakes head*
        Whatever…it’s his life…

      • OhHey says:

        I’m not reading any new articles on purpose because he’s just talking bullshit every time he opens his mouth. ‘She’s proud of my work, she’s proud of me, and she loves me,’ he said. ‘That’s the bottom line, isn’t it? That’s one of the reasons it’s a good fit. It could be a really difficult thing, but she’s just so in command of it.’ Well, A.), way to be “all about ME”, and B.) In command of it, in the way of “I’m marrying a dick so I’m swallowing hard and making believe I am enjoying it”.
        And then ‘I’ve got to be very coy on that one. Very silent.’ Why is that? Oh, right, she’s already knocked up, hence her being very cool and so into YOU. I am starting to loathe him, I didn’t think that would ever happen.

      • Renee says:

        After reading the People mag thing, I’m off to make myself a large vodka tonic. Yeesh…he needs to stop.

        “See, I’ve always thought he was slightly arrogant, but before it was kind of endearing. A personality quirk, if you will.
        Now it’s amplified. I guess I’m leaning towards the, he’s always been an arrogant prat and now he’s just showing it train.
        I really don’t want to be on that train. Pr, can he please rectify this complete mess and get me off this train?”

        @**sighs** I’m with you…please get me off this train.

        Where’s my drink??

        And WTAF does “She’s in command of it,” mean? Never mind, I really don’t want to know.

      • aly says:

        @Lindy79: at least if she were pregnant I would be genuinely happy for him.
        So, announcement in December?

      • j says:

        @soothy, same, lol

        it also sounds like they were asking him about her reaction to his fans, its not a general statement

      • Silly goose says:

        So Sophie is proud of him. Is she his mummy? He really sounds like a spoilt child in this article.
        Good lord, Sophie get out of this relationship before it is too late. And knock his pedestal over on your way out!

      • Claire says:

        Felice: “at least she’s a cool girl”

        Didn’t ben affleck say that about his wife in gone girl?

        Also I mentioned one of the things that stood out to me as a tell tale this was a sham but wouldn’t say for several reasons. He hit on one of them now, if those were his words. And it’s telling…-n favour of my theory :)

    • **sighs** says:


      • aly says:


        Speaking of: There are short marriages and this could be a very short engagement. This foreign born A- list mostly television actor who does do some movies and everyone seems to find attractive rushed the whole engagement thing and his betrothed had no idea what she was getting into or the secrets she would have to keep and it is all getting too much for her. Apparently she had a panic attack the other night while having dinner with friends and had to be helped out of the restaurant.
        I think this is a mixture of truth and BS – like a lot of blind items
        From CDAN

      • **sighs** says:

        I saw this. They make up a lot of stuff, but it’s still interesting.

      • aly says:

        @sighs: I didn’t think this mess could shock me…and here I am, laughing at the most awkward interview in the history of ever.
        basically he’s marrying a groupie

      • Soothy says:

        Oh what a load of tosh. As if they’d know if she ever had a panic attack in front of friends. CDAN is quite famously BS which constructs itself around current entertainment news.

      • MissMary says:

        @Aly: I think maybe a grain of truth but buried in CDAN hyperbole?

      • Sunflower says:

        Guys, you just don’t get how *delicate* she is. And with Keira going on about how intense his fans are, can you imagine how much more intense it must be for TWILTWIPT? How can their relationship survive this level of scrutiny?

        I’m calling this. What do I win if I’m right?

    • Claire says:

      Welcome to the dark side. We have cookies. A cumberbatch of…oh never mind

  44. gracada says:

    Oh God. Still can’t say her name. I need another barf bag.

    From People Magazine (with commentary)

    In the Monday issue of People, Benedict Cumberbatch talked about why he likes his 36-year-old soon-to-be-wife so much.

    LIKES?! Um what about loves…..

    ‘She’s just really cool,’ the 38-year-old actor, who is promoting his new movie The Imitation Game, offered.

    And he still can’t say her name….

    Benedict shared that, despite developing a worldwide fandom, he wants to keep his private life as normal as possible.


    ‘I want to normalize this part of our lives,’ the Sherlock star shared.


    However, that doesn’t mean that the meme-inspiring British star isn’t head over heels for his new fiancée who he met on the set of 2009’s Burlesque Fairytale.


    He explained to the magazine that she flawlessly handles the abundance of adoration from Benedict’s many adoring fans.


    ‘She’s proud of my work, she’s proud of me, and she loves me,’ he said. ‘That’s the bottom line, isn’t it? That’s one of the reasons it’s a good fit. It could be a really difficult thing, but she’s just so in command of it.’

    …and he still can’t say her NAME!

    The last sentence though….um…awkward….

    However, while the star was open about his admiration for his future wife, he was mum on whether or not they’ll be quick to start a family, saying: ‘I’ve got to be very coy on that one. Very silent.’


    • GeeMoney says:

      Why do I get the feeling that these would be the things that he would be saying if he was actually in love?

      Maybe he means them… It’s just that Sophie is not the person that they are meant to be said for. Just a thought.

    • 'P'enny says:

      Normalise??? I want to normalise – not the best word use. Sounds like wiping down a computer program. Why couldnt he say – settling down. I mean what’s normal? I hate that word anyway. Nothing is normal 2pt 4 children normal ? 😡

    • MissMary says:

      UGH BARF *ahem*

      First of all, you “normalize” something abnormal. Not a relationship, not unless there’s something *abnormal* about it.

      Second, his “got to be coy on it”–P-to-the-mother-effin’-R. Because now he has a new talking point in interviews. “So you just got engaged, and we read that you and your fiancee may be thinking of starting a family now? *cue audience awwww/whooooo noises*” “Oh, I’ve got to keep mum on that! *smile*” “*audience/interviewer” Awwwwww!”

      If you think *any* celeb gives an honest statement to People (“Kneepads”) or InStyle, or Hello, or any of the supermarket tabs, you are a bit off the mark.

      • aly says:


        @MissMary: I laughed irl, A+++….and I agree completely

      • Lucrezia says:

        Honestly, I think “normalise” is perfectly fine in this context. He’s a celebrity, so his life IS abnormal. A normal relationship wouldn’t be scrutinised by so many onlookers. Dating/marrying a celeb (or as a celeb) must be hard, so I would never judge anyone for wanting to normalise it.

        However, I do think he went about it in the completely wrong way. Gradually introducing her to the fans would’ve worked much better than the sudden-fiancee trick. But it seems like he’s simply not very good at spin. (Trying to be charitable: I guess it’s possible he hates the very concept of media-manipulation, so refuses to try.)

    • Wait I'm Typing says:

      “She loves MY work, proud of ME, loves ME”

      “I think I’LL be having a private wedding”

      I’m sensing a pattern here. I wonder if he’ll be able to keep it together when he eventually has to say he’s proud of HER work?

      Okay, that was betchy. But still. I never realized how full of himself he was until he got engaged… but you know what? In hindsight, I was totally blind to it. Now? Not so much.

      • j says:

        its pretty obvious hes giving supplied answers at this point. wonder why they dont want him to say her name though

      • Beth says:

        LOL! I’d actually pay money to watch him launch into a 10-minute verbal diarrhea of how proud he is of her “cool” work. Like, gushing over her octopus music video and how it is an “embarrassment of riches”.

        ETA: (Sorry, posted something similar downthread, but longer).

    • Just me says:

      He wants to “normalize” his life so he’s playing coy about starting a family to getting those bidding wars going for the next big exclusive. He can’t just give that up for free. Daddy needs to buy a new dress for SH. STFU

    • Cate says:

      *Screams into the abyss* WHHHHHHHHHHYYYYYYYYYYYYYY?

  45. Lucifer says:

    “However, while the star was open about his admiration for his future wife, he was mum on whether or not they’ll be quick to start a family, saying: ‘I’ve got to be very coy on that one. Very silent.’

    so silent that even he would not hear a whisper about hos wedding(just like his engagement)

    • Kazlock 1307 says:

      Do you think he’s hinting that she’s already up the duff?
      Or just giving an opening for future interviews?

      • MissMary says:

        It sounds like an opening for future interviews. Something to raise speculation and keep him in the public eye every appearance now. “Is SH at home because she’s got a cumberbun in the oven?” *gag* “Ben seems tired! Is new daddyhood on the radar for Sherlock?” That sort of mess.

        Anything in People is tripe. It’s a supermarket tabloid.

      • Linz says:

        I am going with giving an opening for future interviews.

    • lola says:

      He meant they have neighbors who are paying a bit to much attention during the night. With all the chemistry they have I bet it has to be hard.

      On the serious note: God I hope they do not bring a child into this loveless thing. You just can’t do that to your own kid. What a shitty thing if this is actually for real.

      • Emily says:

        If he’s the good guy he seemed to be that won’t happen.

        Guessing this is why he had to be put into a pr arrangement, because he’s playing the field and is too decent to commit to a genuine serious relationship when he’d rather work and have fun.

      • tsmiv says:

        That’s exactly what I’ve been thinking. He goes from not saying a word about girlfriends/dating for more than 2 years and now he’s talking to crap mags like People and Hello?? Plus, I’ve gotten the vibe from him that he was enjoying his freedom the last few years. Everything he says and does right now is so out of character.

    • Silly goose says:

      Can he have children? I’m sure he said in the past he had problems with his testosterone level and was even tested for cancer. Are men fertile with low testosterone levels? And would that explain why he is such a douchebag?

      • aly says:

        When did he say that?

      • MissMary says:

        He said he’d been tested for cancer and estrogen issues due to the line on his upper lip that came on after filming To The Ends of the Earth in South Africa, but he was cleared and told the line was just sun damage. No cancer, no testosterone issues.

      • lola says:

        @MissMary I never believed that explanation. Sun damage has nothing to do with the level of sex hormones.

        @silly goose
        Low testosterone levels in men are easily treated.

      • MissMary says:

        @Lola: It was an old interview, either right as S1 of Sherlock started, or just before. He wasn’t nearly so famous and was still with OP.

      • lola says:

        That doesn’t matter. It is still weird or just a piece of info got lost along the way (not that I am saying he should explain any kind of personal issues in detail … oh, wait:-))

      • Just me says:

        excerpt from The Sunday Times – The Fabulous Baker Street Boy

        Ben “has exotic cheekbones, slanting blue-green eyes (“mum’s”), retroussé nose (“my aunt’s”), thick hair (“dad’s”), and the most lavishly accentuated upper lip since Clara Bow. Look closer and its outline seems to have been tattooed, making his cupid’s bow visible from halfway back in the stalls. The marking first appeared when he was working in South Africa, skin damage, he was told by a dermatologist, and an indication of high oestrogen levels normally seen in men with cancer. He was tested and cleared. He laughs: “Then I was just worried that people would think I wore make-up every day.”

      • MissMary says:

        Never mind, lol, Just Me posted the info!

      • lola says:

        Yes, I read it and now this has to be stopped. Female sex hormones have many and very visible effects on male body (and are obvious even when not naked). BC doesn’t display any of those now and didn’t display any for example when naked in the scene on the ship. This kind of tumors are so extremely rare (so rare that you write a medical article when you find it). My conclusion about this is that BC visited a dermatologist who didn’t know what to do with the upper lip hyperpigmentation (and blabbed that possibility to him).

        I hope all this speculation about BC’s appropriate levels of any kind if hormones can die now. He’s been a PR idiot lately and he can be laughed at for that but health issues or better supposed health issues should not be tossed around that easily.

      • Lucrezia says:

        @ Lola: Melasma is triggered by sun exposure, but far more common in women, and often related to the level of oestrogen: pregnancy, HRT and the pill can all bring it on. It’s also more common in those with darker skin (Indian/Mediterranean tones), so given that Cumby is a lily-white male, testing his hormone levels wasn’t a bad idea.

        But do I agree that speculating about someone’s health is troublesome at the best of times, and Silly goose completely misinterpreted anyway … the article says his hormone levels were fine. (It was poorly worded, so I can see how it’d be misread.) Given that he ended up with marks from the Frankenstein glue, I’d bet the melasma around his lip was triggered by whatever cosmetic he was using on set.

    • moodgirl says:

      Admiration? That is the word they are using?

  46. Laetitia says:

    For someone who is “private”, he sure talks a lot about his engagement. Interestingly enough, he’s doing a lot talking to gossip mags such as People.

  47. Lucifer says:

    does he really propose everyone after 5-6 months?
    pls tell me it is not true


  48. Lulu says:

    Why does he always want people to be proud of him? I heard that so often, he wants his parents to be proud, his friends, and now his fiancée – is that an other symptom of him being insecure and needy?

  49. Renee says:

    Okay, I’m sorry but I just got done laughing at this damn fool. This is a joke, right? Someone tell me this is all a joke and BC did not say all these things to People, etc about his engagement.

    He needs to stop talking about it immediately. He sounds like an immature, needy douche. Seriously, I can’t think of anything nice to say about all his comments regarding this subject anymore. I’m wondering why I was ever a fan of this guy in the first place. Who replaced the actor I used to admire with this weirdo?

    He wants to keep his private life private?? STFU already. Please be quiet. Because I don’t think I can stand to read any more of this weirdness. I know I’m repeating so much of what you all already said but I just had to add my 2 cents just in case the PR are reading. BTW, I’m really not fooled by this sham…I mean, engagement. Oh hell, whatever this is, I don’t even want to know at this point.

    Please stop talking about your engagement, Benedict. Because I’m not really sure you believe all the crap you say. (In fact, you don’t even sound like a normal person. You sound like you’re reading from a bad script.) The pictures and video of you and Sophie tell a different story. And no, Ben, I don’t have to like her. But you might want to try looking like you actually like her. Scratch that. Don’t schedule a fake paparazzi photo shoot with the two of you. Spare us from any more of your odd, rushed, forced relationship and keep your private life where it belongs. In private.

    • Ingrid says:


    • MissMary says:

      If his PR is really trawling social media to get some ideas how things are working out, they need to know NOW to get him to stfu, whether this is a real enGAGment or not. Just…stop talking. you’re making yourself look like a massive tool, Benedict.

    • Linz says:


      All of that!!!!!!

    • Alice says:

      Praying this was not a face to face interview, but a written one some flak supplied the answers to. This is just so alien to the persona he has presented the last 10+ years. I don’t want to believe this one is real.

      • Ingrid says:

        Sorry to disappoint you…
        (editor of People)

        As soon as I saw that tweet, I knew this was going to get a lot worse…

      • gracada says:

        Oh God….that looks like an interview from hell waiting to happen

        For him…us……or both?

      • Felice says:

        More chemistry with the pretty blonde lady :p

      • lola says:

        This is such a mess. The only thing he has to say to f**k it up even more is:”While I will be the pregnant one, she will be the one to give birth. She is that cool, you know.”

      • Cate says:

        I have to say that he at least looks in love with that reporter, he never had that look around his eternal beloved. Some good ol’ fashioned beaming right there. But of course he’s in love with another most incredible woman and so he’s blind for the charms of other ladies. Foolish me, I just don’t understand.

      • Soothy says:

        After posting that pic, the reporter posted a real zinger. It was something like ‘here’s a picture of a woman worthy of him’ or something.. And then followed SH.

      • Felice says:

        I’m glad to see him smile for real for once

      • Alice says:

        @soothy. Why do they think she’s “worthy”? Somebody needs to send links to her true cv, i.e. her ludicrous videos.

  50. may23 says:

    Awww, what a gentleman – he could’ve not talk about his engagement at all, but he wants to share his joy with everyone. Sophie is so lucky to marry Benedict. She must be an exceptional woman!

  51. EscapedConvent says:

    I would look askance at a fiance who said I was “just really cool” when asked what he loved about me. This sounds more like a high school boy talking about his date for the Prom than a grown-up talking about the woman he loves.

    By the way, I notice his use of the Duke of Windsor’s line: “…..the help and support of the woman I love.” Somehow, it sounded more romantic when the Duke said it.

  52. Beth says:

    “She is proud of me, she is proud of my work…”

    But are you proud of her work Ben? Cmon, love (oops, “liking”) is a two-way street! I will actually pay money to watch him say how proud he is of her “cool” work. Like, launching into a 10-minute verbal treatise gushing about SH’s octopus music video, and how it is “an embarrassment of riches.” He’s famous for his windbaggery right?

    If he can pull that off without gagging on his vomit, I’ll personally send a tape of that interview to all the Academy members with “FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION” emblazoned in neon on the letterhead. Forget TIG, THIS will be the definitive Oscar-winning performance! :)

    • Cate says:

      He’s not THAT good of an actor…

    • may23 says:

      I’m sure she has many great projects on the way. Maybe one with Benedict himself? He wouldn’t marry just anybody, some pretty model who has nothing to show but her blonde hair. I’m sure we’ll see some amazing work coming from Sophie very soon.

    • lola says:

      Yes, of course. I will be such a shame that only very, very, very few will be able to understand that artistic profoundness.

      You should ask for a raise.

      • Just me says:

        I don’t care what she does as long as she doesn’t end up on Sherlock. I know the nepotism is pretty ripe over there but I hope that at least Mofftiss have some integrity. God knows Ben doesn’t

      • lola says:

        What not even as a corps?:-)
        If she is in it I would never see it with exception if Sherlock faked another engagement. Now, that would be so awkward that I’d have to see.

  53. May says:

    This is getting more and more ridiculous. I’ll tell you a secret, Ben: “private” means you keep it for yourself and few other trusted ones. You don’t keep talking about it. If you do, and I understand if you get costantly asked, even if it IS your fault, you deal with it better than you are doing: “Thank you we are very happy and we hope to be for a very, very long time.” There. No need for awkward sentences. And by the way, what’s up with her name, Ben? Did she put a Taboo on it? You say it and it will summon calamari and fish heads wherever you are?

    • may23 says:

      Well, he’s clearly found the One. People when they fall in love they just act like this – openly want to share the joy. He can’t help himself.

      • Renee says:

        Actually he sounds like my 12-year-old nephew going to the Jr high dance. “She’s really cool.” Like, totally.

      • MissMary says:

        Can’t tell if poster is trolling or serious… *Fry face from Futurama*

      • Cate says:

        If so – why doesn’t he simply call her ‘the love of his life’? But maybe you know something poor Benedict doesn’t. He may not even believe in the concept of ‘The One’. But you should know dear may23, as you seem to be quite close…

  54. tasha_nat says:

    From that DM/People article: …He broke the hearts of millions of fans earlier this month when he announced his engagement to his girlfriend of one year, Sophie Hunter.

    ONE YEAR?!? When did that happen? Hahaha.

    • Linz says:


      Lmao! I just saw that. One year? Where did that come from? Benedict said 4-5 months.. Weird!! lol

      • tasha_nat says:

        It’s so silly! The New York Daily News also calls Sophie his “longtime girlfriend”. WTF? Is this shoddy journalism or a subtle PR push? Either way, tsk tsk to those involved.

    • MissMary says:

      Give it another week and they’ll have been high school sweethearts.

      • Alice says:

        I have it on good authority that they’ve actually been dating for 15 years. He only lived with Olivia the first 12 in order to protect the delicate flower from prying eyes of the press. Check it out.

      • moodgirl says:


  55. noneyadambus says:

    Hey I’ve got an idea, since it’s obvious that someone from PR is watching👀👀 or being reported back to through a minions hands (May23?). Hows about releasing some clips from Burlesque Fairytales since you keep harping on it? It might make us like the darling SHAM-WOW and Octotroll better. Unless there is something there you don’t want us to see? LOL What happened to Vanity Fair? Remembered her part was about five seconds? Or is she studying a new language? Cause she suddenly speaks three. Where she was bilingual before. I’m just curious which story I’m suppose to believe. Also which girl is the right one? The shy, stay at home one who is unsure on the red carpet? Or the one who has a movie, singing career and dances around nude in front of a camera in movies about incest? These are two different women IMHO, and one of them has to go away. She can’t be shy and have a movie career. Those two things DO NOT go together. PR, get your story straight! LOL

  56. Milly T says:

    Have there been many comments from his family or friends? You would think there would be some. Especially his parents.

    • MissMary says:

      JR posted something, Adam Ackland reposted a link about the engagement then deleted it a few minutes later, Caitlin Moran reblogged the same link but didn’t delete it. Ackland apparently has “favorited” several iterations of “awww look at how BC announced it!” articles but… nothing in the way of congrats from anyone on his “side”. And more wtf if you count in the convo with Simon Pegg and Amanda Abbington where they seem to be joking about BC then go to private text soon as one of them says engagement.

  57. Soothy says:

    God it’s actually on the front cover of HELLO as an exclusive. What the hell… Who are these beasts he has controlling all this and why is he going along with it?

    • Alice says:

      I think it’s spun out of control and he’s in too deep. The script keeps changing at the last minute to cover any inconsistencies pointed out on social media. I still don’t understand the timing of the announcement – if he did it, WHY just before a big pr push. If it was forced on him then I understand the barely concealed anger. He’ll have to play it out at this point, otherwise what does he do, say “It was all a ruse. Harvey made me do it.” I hope to god it’s not real because he just appears miserable next to her and I like him too much to wish that on him.

      • OhHey says:

        What I don’t get is why no one seems to think it’s odd that he’s appearing and talking by himself all the time about their engagment, wouldn’t you think they’d appear together for an interview if they’re such a cool couple all in love and stuff? I think it’s weird that he’s doing all the talking and she’s being treated like she doesn’t speak English.

      • moodgirl says:

        I think it’s odd, however, I think the whole darn thing is odd.

  58. Just here says:

    LOL. The PR angle continues! Now KK is commenting on ‘crazy’ Cumberbitches. I think she was only half kidding in this interview:

    Good ol’ Harvey. Gotta get rid of the nut-job fans!

    *wobbles on her fence*

    • MtnRunner says:

      Gives weight to the theory that he’s trying to distance himself from nutters on Tumblr.

      • OhHey says:

        Yabbut, given that he’s acting like such an arsehole, real, intelligent fans are jumping the ship like it’s on fire. The nutters are all he’s going to have left, and they will never hear a word against him. A stroll through twitter is vomit inducing, everyone’s all proud of him that he’s “being very coy” about starting a family, keeping it secret. Jayzuz, he could have started that secrecy last week as far as I’m concerned, I wouldn’t have minded.

      • MtnRunner says:

        Yep. I think we already called that one on an earlier thread. The nutters won’t be able to see it when he takes a piss on ‘em and the thinkers/analyzers think he’s a D-bag. P-to-the-mother-effin’-R FAIL.

        *Thanks for that fab phrase, Miss Mary!*

      • MissMary says:

        MtnRunner: LOL quite welcome! And you’re right–the people who are slavering over their woobified Benny are howling about how mean we are, but the fans who aren’t sending scrapbooks and knitting baby blankets are wondering wtf he’s smoking and why he can’t afford better.

      • J says:

        i dont buy knightley serving an agenda here tbh, wow @ some of them telling her they didn’t want her auto

        they are cute together i gotta admit:

        tbh i know this will sound rude but his fanbase is too small to support a career anyway, as we ve already seen. the other actors i like are just fine w/o a fanbase like his

        i kinda just realized hw’s peeps must have told him nothing about him was good enough to get a oscar nom or have this movie be successful


      • Lindy79 says:

        Every fanbase has it, I remember checking Instagram the night of the Globes to see arrivals and everyone’s pictures were spammed with “where is JLAW!!” “We don’t care about these people!!”

        It made every cell in my body cringe.

  59. Majicou says:

    Wow, he sounds just like every other guy who has a girlfriend and expects everyone else to like her. No, his appeal does not extend to someone just because he likes them. He sounds so naive about his fan interactions, even when he was talking about cumberbitches.

  60. Platospopcorn says:

    New theory (less conspiracy, more believable ineptitude and cluelessness) —

    Ben and Sophie were casually dating. He had feelings for her, but it’s very clear now that his greatest love is himself, so I don’t know how deep they ran. The cloak and dagger and self-importance were all him, him, him. “We must think of the millions of fans and the paparazzi waiting for us on every corner, darling.” Who? Where?

    She got pregnant. “Just what I’ve always wanted!!! Marry me!!!” She agrees, but the foundation was missing (hence the apparent lack of ease around each other that has been analyzed to death). In his usual daft, clueless fashion, he makes the engagement announcement like a good posh boy (I mean, Eddie did it…) as soon as it was a go, but then Harvey finds out and…wait…we can use this!

    But you think Harvey is a control freak? No doubt, but I think BC is far more invested in what people think of him than even Harvey is, so he demands she be made to seem worthy of him…no doubt in response to the scoffing online, because I don’t care how many times this a-hole denies it, he is on social media and googling himself like mad. There’s NO OTHER EXPLANATION. Harvey has his own motives for blowing this thing up — Hey, now we can get people interested, and maybe they won’t notice his very obvious foot-in-mouth disease. We’ve got a fuzzy angle on him…

    So you’ve got BC working an angle, Harvey working an angle, and apparently a very disconnected group of PR lackies trying like mad to patch the holes…not because it’s some grand PR conspiracy, but because BC’s fans ARE NOT STUPID. Sure, you’ve got all the apologists who have convinced themselves that BC is doing and saying all these idiotic things under duress. REALLY??? He’s been doing and saying idiotic things for years…and I say that as a long-time fan!!! But his burgeoning self-regard, and his newfound elation (my guess) that he’s finally going to have a child (never mind there’s a woman involved…minor detail), have amplified the gross sense of entitlement that was always lurking — sometimes not so far — beneath the surface.

    I mean, really, people.


    (Disclaimer — Obviously all MHO, but, you know…everyone else has a theory. :) )

    • J says:

      his pr team/harvey’s team check social media and give him the jist. that’s standard. also don’t think she’s pregnant

      under your theory i have to accept he has more control than i know he has, as i have followed other weinstein campaigns. harvey’s team > bc’s team. no way he ran any of this w/o harvey’s knowledge, and it would have started back in late feb/early march.

      plus you can spot scripted responses, but thats not relative to bc, i can usually spot ‘em with other actors too, speech patterns change

      • MissMary says:

        All this. I think any hinting at pregnancy is a game to keep him a step ahead of ER now that he’s getting married for sure next month–keep things “interesting” in the gossip rags. And also Karon et all being the ones doing PR and trying to run a plan (even one condoned by HW/outlined by his team) makes some sense since so much of this is coming off as unprepared and amateurish. Karon and her group do have years of experience in PR but they’ve never done an Oscar campaign, and jumping in for one under Weinstein is like going from never seeing the ocean to being shoved off the Titanic as it’s going down if you don’t know how to play the game right.

      • Lindy79 says:

        Whatever about using the relationship/rushing the engagement for PR, hinting about babies and not flat out saying “not at the moment, maybe in the future” is a new low for me.
        IF she is pregnant and you don’t want to say it, then just deflect and keep quiet. If she isn’t then just say she isn’t as above. Don’t do all this bull.
        I know he’s not above PR but this is something else, especially from someone who bangs on about normalising and keeping his private life private.

      • Claire says:

        I agree, it’s very obvious but lets keep level headed about this: he is playing the game and playing it ridiculously well. Whether it’s to exasperate fans or gain as much mileage as possible, he’s winning. We are talking about him and that’s the point.

      • Platospopcorn says:

        All good points, J…I guess it’s just soooooo hard for me to imagine anyone doing all this just for show or the sake of a PR game. I’m more inclined to think that they’re trying to use something that already exists (and doing it poorly), rather than full-out make something up. But maybe I’m being too generous.

        I’m with Lindy, though. If what you say is true…it’s a new low in the game, and I think Benedict’s true colors are showing either way. He gets no passes from me in all of this. :(

      • Floribunda says:

        @ Claire ITA with you there – as much as we’re all complaining that he’s coming over as a total a**hole at the moment, and as distasteful as all the engagement/pregnancy PR stuff is, there’s no denying that it’s keeping him at the forefront of the public consciousness. Far worse, at least as far as the Oscars campaign goes, would be a ‘meh’ response, or total apathy. No such thing as bad publicity and all that.

        Not quite so confident about what it all means for his post-Oscars career, though – not that HW et al care a jot about that.

      • j says:

        @MissMary: No way is Karon running point, but there would definitely be use of her and her staff along with the Miramax team.

  61. tsmiv says:

    In the people interview, he sounds like a teenage kid trying to convince his parents he’s ready to get married. “She’s cool! It’s a good fit.” See mum, it’ll work out! Makes me think he’s trying to convince himself.
    Also, in the first picture above, she looks a little bit , shall I say, curvy.

    • MissMary says:

      No more curves than usual… the dress fits the same as it did a month before.

    • lola says:

      She took a beep breath and forgot to exhale.

      (I think the dress had to be dry cleaned due to dirt she drag it though at LFF and it shrunk:-))

    • Soothy says:

      ‘Also, in the first picture above, she looks a little bit , shall I say, curvy.’

      Aah, looks like his ‘coy’ comment is already having an effect, I see.

      And no, I don’t see that she looks any different at all.

  62. L says:

    A man, pushing 40 and who has repeatedly talked about his desire for family/ children, becomes engaged to a woman his own age that he’s known for years, after an indeterminate length of dating (only publicly for 5 months or so, but who knows for how long in private), and people think it’s… unusual in some way?

    And when said man looks tired, annoyed, or bored during press events for three different films in multiple countries people assume he’s unhappy in his relationship?

    What the !@#$%&* is everyone on this thread smoking? I’m an avid Tumblr user and everyone there is being really chill and normal about this. All y’all grown a$$ women need to grow the f*ck up.

    • Soothy says:

      Erm, no.

      Seriously, if you’re going to comment, at least try to know what you’re talking about.
      It’s nowhere near as simple as a man ‘just gets engaged to a woman he’s known for years’, as you’d realise if you’d bother to actually read what people are saying and also open your eyes.

      Honestly, I’m getting pretty sick of ignorant superfans playing the ‘omgz, get over the jealousy’ when it comes to all this shadiness, I really am. If people are so easily swayed by the media or desperately obsessed by him, fine. But don’t tell everyone else they have to lose the power of independent thought.
      But I guess ‘I’m an avid tumblr user’ should’ve given a clue here.
      Two things..
      1. ‘Chill’ and ‘normal’ aren’t really two things to describe tumblr. ‘Obsessed’ and ‘rabid’ maybe, yes.
      2. Don’t call people ‘grown ass women’, it’s intensely annoying.

    • Lindy79 says:

      Its more confusion about a man who bangs on about press intrusion and his private life being private and his own, suddenly announcing, very publicly, his engagement 2 days before a US press tour and at the start of his Oscar nomination campaign. Who looks pissy and bothered when asked about it on a red carpet (unless it’s a pre-arranged interview like People above) and insisting it’s private but talking to every publication about it and her in the weirdest way, instead of deflecting and turning focus back onto the film as many many other actors have done in the past.
      He’s now stoking the baby rumours.

      • Curioser says:

        @Lindy ^^ This, all if this. The timing alone makes this whole thing suspicious. Throw in his weird ass behaviour, his refusal to talk to the ‘wrong’ reporters but willing to open up to the ‘right’ ones PLUS his complete inability to say Sophie’s name (disassociating much there, Ben?) no wonder people are side-eyeing.

        He needs to STFU about the relationship and turn all of the talk back to the movie.

        Oops, but that wouldn’t get him in People and US Weekly, now would it?!

  63. Just here says:

    Out of curiosity, where might I find this video of BC and SH on the photocall red carpet? I see these photos of them together, and, well… I don’t think they look *that* miserable. I know photos can tell lies, though, so I thought I’d ask to see them in motion?

  64. Wait I'm Typing says:

    Here’s a thought, perhaps his comment about why he likes her was unsavory because he wasn’t asked what he liked about her? Maybe it went something like

    “There’s been a lot of attention from the fans/papers/people regarding the engagement, how is your fiance handling all of it?”
    “These past few weeks have been intense, all of the attention must seem strange to your new fiance…”

    “She’s just really cool. she’s proud of my work, she’s proud of me and she loves me. That’s the bottom line, isn’t it? That’s one of the reasons it’s a good fit. It could be really difficult but she is just so in command of it.”

    That’s the only way I can see his response making any sense. Naturally, they would make it seem like he’s gushing about her for the clicks which is also why I think people are so put off by what he said. Because the ladt sentence “it could be really difficult but she is just so in command of it” sounds like a direct response to someone asking about all of the attention surrounding the announcement. That’s how I’m reading it, atleast.

    However, this whole situation still gives me the heebie jeebies. Because regardless of whether or not it’s genuine, he is definitely, without question, using his relationship to push his film and himself. That in itself is enough to make me second guess my admiration for him (it’s been on the decline for a little while, to be frank).

    • J says:

      I thought it was obvious that’s what they asked him, it’s the only way the ‘control’ part makes sense

    • Laetitia says:

      What you’ve written makes a lot of sense. I think that is exactly what happened here.

      I think many people are jumping the gun but what you’ve explained makes sense. I think it’s important to keep in mind that interviewers are taking quotes and twisting them to fit whatever they are trying to sell.

      I think Benedict is in love (I go back and forth). I think Benedict will marry Sophie. That is all.

      • Soothy says:

        I don’t think anyone’s jumping the gun. That seems an odd choice of phrase. He’s saying a ton of weird shit right now. And what is it about his words which makes you so sure he’s in love?

    • Soothy says:

      Yes, you can see the preceding question but that’s far from the weirdest thing about all of this. I don’t know why people are purely focusing on that.

      • Wait I'm Typing says:

        I agree that it isn’t the weirdest thing. I just think that’s what happened in this instance and it doesn’t account for everything else but I’m trying to be objective.

        I also think -like many here- that everytime he opens his mouth to talk about her he ends up telling us way more about himself. I can’t claim to know everything about relationships but that is so bizarre to me.

        Truthfully, I don’t think the engagement is fake but I also don’t get the impression either of them are as happy as he keeps saying they are.
        But yes, I agree with you that there are far weirder things here.

    • Lindy79 says:

      I get what you’re saying but I think there were a million other ways he could have worded it without sounding like a patronising arse, and making it all about him.

      “Sophie is amazing, my life is pretty insane especially at the moment given we’ve just gotten engaged but she doesn’t have a problem with it, she has her own life and accepts and understands that it’s a part of mine. We’re a team, and will be long after all the madness has died down…” anything is better than “she loves me, she loves my work, me me me me me me” and “it’s a good fit”

      Who talks that way about their fiance of 3 weeks? Like he’s talking about a merger or an acquisition. It matches exactly what his sister said about him, which at the time I thought was a horrible article. Now it sounds like she was writing a personal ad for his future wife.

      • Claire says:

        I can’t seem to get an answer to this question: WHY did his sister give that interview to the daily fail? It was so awkward and uncomfortable esp given his privacy. It made him look like a loser and the only things I could think of is it was PR somehow or like you said, throwing the net out there, maybe in case a future date googled him. It was SO odd.

        But strangely enough I read it and thought…Hmmm we MIGHT be a good match if we dated. And perhaps that was the intention….to make women think that.

      • Lindy79 says:

        It was certainly odd, and given that Emily (her daughter) works for him, it seemed odd she’d just volunteer that information to the Daily Mail.
        I think the intention was to paint him as some poor unlucky in love fool because he’s so dedicated to his work that he just can’t make love happen but also painting him as so intelligent and smart, witty that he’s been unable to find someone who can keep up with him.A victim of his own success.
        Also maybe telling prospective partners, don’t expect to leave him at home holding the baby. He want’s kids but you’ll be the one minding them while he works.

      • Floribunda says:

        @Lindy79 Think you’re right there. My take on the interview was that it was well-intentioned, but that there ended up being a disconnect between what was meant and what came across.

        Think she was going for the ‘poor misunderstood genius’, or ‘tortured artistic soul’ angle – depicting BC as some kind of romantic, Byronic figure, flawed but with an essentially good heart. What came over, though, was the arrogance of someone who wanted a strong, intelligent woman, but would then expect her to play second fiddle to his career (or, more than likely, third fiddle to his career and their kids).

    • OhHey says:

      Is it possible he is just utterly clueless about how to have a relationship? Because there’s so much “ME” and no “US”. Does he just not get how a partnership works? I would think that it would be just simpler to say “we’re madly in love and very happy”. Except they’re not, so he has to make shit up and try to justify this weird clusterf*ck. Still say she’s pregnant…that’s what prompted all of this.

      • Green Eyes says:

        Everything with BC is “I, me, mine” because I don’t think anyone in his circle ever push back with his bad/selfish behavior. They’re probably like, “Oh, that’s Benedict being Benedict” or “that’s what creative souls are like,” etc. Plus, he’s basically an only child (sister was probably never around when he was growing up) who has never had to share anything. Add all this together and you have a very selfish, self-absorbed person who has never been called out for it.

        This is why he cannot have a normal, healthy relationship. A sane woman would RUN from such a person, no matter who he is. I think that Sophie probably “fits” because she could be the type of woman who gets her self-esteem from the guy she dates as well as being co-dependent, to boot (all IMO).

      • OhHey says:

        Green Eyes, are you saying she actually IS odious? Shocking.

        She fits in the square peg/round hole way. He can jam that thing as much as he wants (and please stop with the articles in every damn magazine) and it just ain’t never gonna go.

        He has made several references to him looking outside himself (at last ) and wondering what people need of him. Maybe someone gave him a big wakeup call, although it doesn’t seem to have done much good, because he’s still faking a relationship all by himself.

  65. tasha_nat says:

    ‘I’ve got to be very coy on that one. Very silent.’”

    - [koi], adjective
    - making a pretense of shyness or modesty that is intended to be alluring

    HAHAHAHA! Nah, I understand what he means (that he doesn’t want to give details) but I just found his choice of words hilarious, given the circumstances. Look at me, don’t look at meeee!

    • Soothy says:

      It’s so baity, it’s ridiculous.

    • gg says:

      Maybe he meant he’s getting a koi pond to go along with her octopus?

    • moodgirl says:

      Don’t you feel sad for him? He is supposed to be supporting a film that he feels is so important that history books should be changed and ALL of his time is spent talking about his engagement. In People and Hello. A person who is supposedly so private now gives details about his personal life to shit magazines. And the movie is left by the wayside. I don’t think HW intended for this to happen.

  66. Ellen says:

    Message for Benny; if your hearts not in it for Sophie just call it off. Call it off to her to be fair and let her find someone new and who really is proud enough to show her what she’s worth.

    Nobody is believing this PR stunt no matter what you or your people say

    • Soothy says:

      I’m a little perplexed at the ‘poor sophie’ stance some people are taking here. What’s that all about?

      • Green Eyes says:

        For me, at least, the pity I feel for Sophie comes from these things:

        1. The insanity that comes with being the SO (even “pretend” SO) of a popular celebrity with a crazy fandom that knows no boundaries. Add on to that, everything you do, say (or don’t say) and wear being scrutinized down to the very core.
        2. Having a selfish, self-absorbed twat like BC being your SO. He’s coming off (at least to me) as Prince Charles did with Lady Diana in their relationship- no patience, no empathy for someone you supposedly love. Though, I have to say, I think that Prince Charles was at least a little sympathetic to Diana in the beginning.

        Yes, Sophie is an adult, but still, from just the two things I listed above, it is hard not to feel a little sympathy towards her.

      • Soothy says:

        What insanity though? Every fandom has crazy elements but why would she be aware of any of it? The only things I’ve seen is very OTT gushy congrats and overfamiliarity. Is that what you mean by boundaries?
        I’ve seen her work criticised but quite right too. It’s shocking.

        I think people are being way too harsh on BC. Nobody knows the details of his relationship with her or anything about her. I don’t think it’s fair to take what he’s said and turn it into something despicable because it truly isn’t at all.

      • moodgirl says:

        You don’t think that Sophie is getting something out of this? I feel badly for her as a woman because she is being disrespected but that is me projecting my needs onto her. I would have kicked his a@@ so far and so long he would wake up in another galaxy. But that’s me.

        It is more than possible that, as long as she gets what she wants out of this situation, she is fine with whatever BC throws out there. I bet you good money that they haven’t seen hide nor hare of each other since he left NY.

        She knew the details when she went in, none of this is a surprise to her. Except having to make an appearance at the NY opening. That sent her for a loop because she isn’t supposed to be seen or heard from – that’s part of the deal. She will let him do all the talking because it’s his thing, not hers.

    • Lucifer says:

      No. The “engagement” won’t be indefinite. It will be over after all of the press conferences and voting. They’ve already got the out. Sophie’s crumbling under the pressure. (in the off chance it is real – I hope she and BC come out of this OK – I’d hate to see them really hurt.)

      and you know who will be blamed of course? Those dastardly Cumberbitches……

      • Soothy says:


        Sorry, where’s the idea she’s ‘crumbling under pressure’ come from? What pressure?

        And ‘cumberbitches’ to blame for what exactly?

      • Ingrid says:

        @Soothy -Her busy career, of course! Oh wait…

      • moodgirl says:

        A CDAN (?) that hinted that she or someone fitting her profile (a rush proposal that will lead to a short engagement) had a panic attack in a restaurant and had to be taken out of the building by friends.

        Maybe real, maybe made up. Maybe put out by the same people who put out the SGF rumor that set them up in the first place is now setting them up for the get out of jail free card.

  67. Lucifer says:

    she’s proud of my work, she’s proud of me and she loves me. That’s the bottom line, isn’t it?” Come on. There are so many reasons to be awesome and loveable, like being kind, honest, generous, creative, authentic, witty, funny, clever… But for BC it’s about him

  68. zazie says:

    l´ll watch TIG next year on DVD, maybe. I´m all fed up with this Cumberstuff, I don´t even like him anymore. And I don´t want to know if this engagement is real or not and why he keeps telling all these stupid bainless things.

    All I found charming and interesting is gone. His antics are disgusting, like on one side trying so hard to be Mr. Sexy and on the other side pretending to live holy, happy and healthy. I liked the old Cumberbatch so much, the funny, dorky, drinking, smoking and weird one. The new one is not at all attractive.

  69. Curioser says:


    “It’s always a joy when you’re working with a friend and Keira’s fantastic, she’s such a smart, brilliant, mature, and wise actress. And also when it’s a mate whose supporting you, whose being encouraging, and who you know has really got your back not just as a brilliant actress but as a friend watching your work and encouraging it that’s a real gift.” —BC on working with Keira again


    “‘She’s just really cool,’…’She’s proud of my work, she’s proud of me, and she loves me,’ he said. ‘That’s the bottom line, isn’t it? That’s one of the reasons it’s a good fit. It could be a really difficult thing, but she’s just so in command of it.’” —BC on his fiancée, Sophie

    Yeah, not selling that engagement thing real well, are you Ben?

    • Lindy79 says:

      He needs to start picturing Keira when he’s asked about his fiancée.
      It might help him sound less like a knobcheese.

    • Lucifer says:

      wow.. look at this. as i posted upthread. he could have said good things about her like he said about KK. but NO. why??? oh wait , we know why :D

    • moodgirl says:

      Maybe he can put a paper photo of KK on SH’s face, like the Halloween ones that have an elastic string across the back.

  70. Ingrid says:

    Even the IMDB nannies are starting to side eye him and his People interview. Oh joy :D

    Hello interview was much the same. I think he did Hollywood Foreign Press Association conference, hence the same quotes in the international press.

    It was right before he flew to NY after the two-week grumpy pants and the whole interview reads like PR crisis management.

    • Pinky says:

      Not even that.. Even CB on tumblr, who I have never seen criticise Ben, tagged it with “stay true to yourself Benedict please.”

      So it’s gettinf ridiculous..

  71. Claire says:

    So I’m wondering though I should wait until the next days thread begins, who thinks he’ll walk down the aisle and have kids with this lady just to keep up PR appearances? Is he that far gone?

    • Curioser says:

      I would sincerely hope not, Claire. If this whole thing is PR, I would hope that they both come to their senses before bringing a child into it. If it’s real, then fine, but for gods sake, if they have as little chemistry in private as they do in public…

      Sorry, I couldn’t even finish that thought. :/

    • Lucifer says:

      i sincerely hope not but i cnt tell a thing about this NEW benny. so he might walk and have babies and adjust for the next 20 years. thn find some 20s chick and get married again *depp* ;)
      He failed me.

    • moodgirl says:

      I can’t see him not marrying her. He has put too much work into it and would look like a fool if things fall through.

      • Claire says:

        @moodgirl I’m not understanding how you think they haven’t seen one another since ny (implying you think this relationship is mostly for pr if note wholly?) but think he can’t back out of marrying her? I don’t know anyone, no matter how big a star they are, who’d go through with a marriage their heart wasn’t into

      • Soothy says:

        He really won’t look like a fool, whatever he chooses to do. Vast majority don’t really know or care what he does and whatever he does or doesn’t do, nobody can know why.

  72. maudfricker says:

    I’m predicting a Christmas wedding and baby news in the new year. It will be a quiet classy private affair (so private that James Rhodes will tweet a picture of the groom in his fab suit, but no pic of TWILTWIET 😉)