George Clooney describes his proposal, was on his knee ‘for about 28 minutes’


Here are some assorted photos of George Clooney flying solo as he promoted Tomorrowland that past few days. Some photos are from the London premiere, which was interesting for the fact that Amal Clooney was actually IN London on the day of the premiere, but she did not attend the UK premiere. There are also some photos of George looking old as dirt in Spain too. Again, it doesn’t seem like Amal came with him to Spain. George did say that Amal would come to Tokyo with him to promote the film, so we’ll see.

I only realized this recently, but Tomorrowland was co-written by Damon Lindelof, who created and wrote Lost and was responsible for the script and story catastrophe of Prometheus. Lindelof’s involvement in Tomorrowland does not inspire hope, to say the least. In fact, I’m now less likely to show any interest. In any case, Clooney, Lindelof and director Brad Bird sat down for a conversation with Vulture, and Clooney ended up giving some interesting quotes. Some highlights:

Why Clooney doesn’t do a lot of summer blockbusters: “Well, I got a good taste of it in my mouth doing Batman and Robin. “Gosh, I’m so good at this, why don’t I keep doing them?” You know, it’s never really been my thing. Even something like Gravity was a very different kind of film, where I wasn’t carrying the bulk of the weight, and that wasn’t even a summer film… But other than that, it hasn’t really been in my wheelhouse, quite honestly. I’ve been offered a few of them, but I didn’t think I was the right guy for those jobs. But I have to say that Tomorrowland didn’t feel like a summer movie.”

On social media & online commenters: “Listen, we’re at sort of a cynical time in society. Don’t ever read comments on anything! People can live anonymously, and I honestly think that when they were talking about freedom of speech in 1787, the theory was that you had to own your speech. It had to belong to you, and you actually had to take some responsibility for it. Now you can just sit alone and say horrible things, and it becomes fashionable to be shi–ty to people. Now people will come up to me, thinking they’re keeping it real, and they say, “I hated you in that last movie!” And I’ll look at them and go, “Well, I think those extra 20 pounds look good on you.” It’s become a much more cynical time, a time when people think it’s fun to only be negative…. And that’s not gonna be how I function. I’m not gonna function in that world, where negativity is going to be the centerpiece. I’m going to look to the better angels and have a better life because of it.

[From Vulture]

The social media part of the conversation happens as Lindelof talks about leaving Twitter in a fit because he didn’t like the comments he was getting. To which I say… there’s a fine line between trolling someone and airing some legitimate grievances about Lindelof’s lack of storytelling talent. But sure, I understand the point that Clooney is trying to make, which is that you should own your own “free speech,” etc. Clooney also slapped the Daily Mail again, calling them “evil” for claiming that Amal is Druze (that happened last year), even though we really have no idea what religion Amal practices, or if she believes in anything.

George also gave an interview to CBS This Morning and wouldn’t you know? He described his proposal to Amal in detail. He told Charlie Rose that he “dropped” the proposal on her by surprise, although he planned it out and even cued up a playlist (made of songs by Rosemary Clooney). He got down on one knee too. Clooney said: “I asked her, and she just kept saying, ‘Oh my, God,’ and ‘Wow,’ and we just sat there. And finally, I just said, ‘Listen, I’m 53 at the time, or 52 at the time, I think. I said, ‘I’ve been on my knee for about 28 minutes so I gotta get an answer out of this because I’m gonna throw a hip out! I might not be able to stand back up.’” Poor guy. I bet getting down on one knee killed his back too.

But here’s a good rule of thumb for the gossip world: if someone is trying this hard to convince you of something, the opposite is probably true. George is really trying to convince us of something. Now we just need to figure out why he’s trying to divert our attention.


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  1. V4Real says:

    That’s because he couldn’t get back up off his knee. He does have a bad back you know. He was like “help, I’m proposing and I can’t get up.”

  2. Anastasia says:

    I’ve mostly ignored him, but now I want to tell him ENOUGH with all the Amal stories. No one cares. And I agree, it’s fishy.

    • AG-UK says:

      +2 ENOUGH

    • Vava says:

      Even I’ve come around to this conclusion, and I have enjoyed Amal’s fashion parade. George needs to stop talking about her and his marriage. We’ve heard enough, already!

    • OhDear says:

      He doth protest too much, it seems, like the person who has to tell you how smart/well-liked/talented/etc. they are.

      • Quincy7 says:

        Except that he is probably constantly getting questions about her too. What is he supposed to do? Also, if there is so much Amal/Clooney fatigue, why the constant articles? I genuinely don’t care about Benedict Cumberbatch and Sophie and don’t read nor would I write anything about them.

    • WhyWhatWhen says:

      @Quincy7 If Clooney doesn’t have the leverage to set the terms for interview will discuss and will not discuss points then he has a lot bigger dents to his A-list ego to deal with than sounding off about a bit of negative online stuff. If he has lost that much star control over press junket q&a then he needs to hand his “A” lanyard into Hollywood security now and exit the “I’m a credentialed – do you know who I am” building.

      Cumberbatch barely has had a blast of whirring air from THAT revolving door into/out of THAT building. There’s no relative to be made.

      The only bizarre is Clooney breaking the glass himself and rushing for the fire gathering point in panic.

  3. Nayru says:

    He’s jumped the shark while it reclined on the couch

    • tigerlily says:

      SMH…..George pleasepleaseplease just STFU. Enough of the hard sell. You the man! Sooo manly and sooo hetero….we GET it. Now go away.

      • Snappyfish says:

        Thank you Tigerlily!! My sentiments exactly. Well said!!

      • Sea Dragon says:

        Yup. He’s so, so, so straight that he has us listening to all the ways he’s completely and totally straight. Btw, he’s straight.
        I doubt I’d want the world to know I had to spend a half hour on one knee. I might assume he had to do a lot of convincing.

      • celine says:


    • jen2 says:

      Hopefully we won’t have to hear about the first time they had sex, but who knows with him.

      Why would he need to be on his knee for nearly half an hour? Most women say yes pretty fast, but it took her 30 minutes?!?! I think something has been “slightly” embellished.

      • Christin says:

        Nearly a half hour is a very long time to just say ‘wow’ or whatever few words he claims she was repeating. Did they just stare at each other while 10 of his aunt’s songs played?

      • Miss M says:

        Whaaaat?! There are so many questions to be answered. Was their first time before or after their wedding? Were they nervous? How long did he take to ___?What color of lingerie she was wearing (eccentric and fun?!)? Do they have a favorite position? Does he take viagra? *So many questions* *eye-roll*

      • Ethelreda says:

        ”Hopefully we won’t have to hear about the first time they had sex,”

        I doubt it, if only because they haven’t actually had sex. At least not with each other.

      • I Choose Me says:

        Pretty sure he was employing a bit of hyperbole.

      • Ange says:

        It took so long because she was hardballing him on the contract while he was weak.

  4. snusnu says:

    ENOUGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH *throws George off a cliff*

  5. Mispronounced Name Dropper says:

    That’s because she cut him off at the 28 minute mark by saying yes just to shut him up. Old men tend to waffle on a bit.

  6. Mrs. Wellen Melon says:

    The Jolie-Pitts talk about their kids when they’re promoting a project. Cloney doesn’t have kids so he talks about his wife.

    Neither strategy persuades me to see a film.

    • meme says:

      it kind of dissuades me from wanting to see their films. they’re really not actors anymore, it’s George, Brad and Angie up there on the big screen. they all overshare.

      • Kara says:

        i had this feeling when i saw the trailer of the last movie with Jennifer Lawrence and Bradley Cooper. i never had the feeling that those were people in love in a differen time. it was Jen and Bradley.

        i think Justin Theroux once bashed Tom Hanks about showing his house in People Mag, i have to say he had a point.
        the Hollywood Legends are called Legends because we know pretty little about them.

      • meme says:

        @Kara….I agree 100%. A lot of stars overshare these days and there is no mystery left to them. Jennifer Lawrence is so overexposed and has turned into a franchise star. I don’t know or hear much about Bradley Cooper and thought he was excellent in American Sniper.

      • Virgilia Coriolanus says:

        I actually don’t think JLaw or Bradley Cooper sells their private life–by that I mean they don’t talk about girlfriends/boyfriends, etc. Everyone has their public topics that they stick to, when they’re not talking about their movie….for some people it’s their family/partner, other’s it’s hair/makeup, and for others its feminism/dieting (or lackthereof)…….Jlaw constantly talks about how she’s “real” in terms of body image, eating, upbringing…that’s her thing.

        Bradley Cooper is the same–but I think his dating life overshadows him a little because of the mess that is his personal life. First with his VERY short marriage–which I’ve been led to believe that either he’s gay or a total sociopath–, dating someone younger than his costar (who he said he wouldn’t date because she was too young)….and partying on with the Pussy Posse……

        And agree that the only good movie he’s ever put out is “American Sniper”…like I was shocked that he was THAT good…..because he’s usual awful to me.

    • BNA FN says:

      @Mrs wellen Melon, what has the Jolie Pitts told us about their children? When was the last time they talked about their children? I want to know because I’m a big fan of theirs and I want to read this. The only thing I know about their kids is when I see photos of them going through an airport or at the playground.

      Btw, now I know why Amal is getting so thin. I guess George complements wife with “Well, I think those extra 20 pounds looks good on you”. I guess in GC eyes, two negatives makes a positive. If a fan is negative to GC he could not be the bigger man by saying something positive to the rude fan.

      • Mrs. Wellen Melon says:

        Google “Brad Pitt talks about his children” or “Brad Pitt talks about parenting” etc. if you have time.

      • meme says:

        @Mrs. Wellen Melon…oh no you done stepped into now.

      • I Choose Me says:

        Oh come on. I’m a Brangelina fan too. But they do talk about their kids a lot. Esp. Brad.

      • Virgilia Coriolanus says:

        I think they’ve talked a lot less about their kids in the past few years, but I haven’t read everything……I think people were SO interested that they talked a lot more (especially in 2008/2009 right after the twins were born, etc), but the last thing I’ve ever heard them talk about was when Angelina had a interview (I’m thinking for Vanity Fair, maybe?), and Shiloh? was there (the interview was in Angelina’s hotel room, if I’m remembering), and asked AJP something, and then ran off, and then Angelina talked a little bit about Shiloh going to Louis Zamperini’s funeral, because she knew, also whether or not she’d let any of her kids watch “Unbroken”……

        I can’t remember anything noteworthy from Brad, from the past few years…except for maybe a few things from WWZ, when he talked about Maddox? being in the movie as a zombie who gets his head blown off……other than that, I can’t really think of anything.

        But I also think that Brad and Angelina are good at repeating the same things differently, when it comes to their kids. But I do think they talked a lot about their kids/personal life–which I don’t mind because a) I’m nosey as hell, and b) they’ve both said that they wanted to use their personal lives to bring attention on their work. Like when Angelina adopted Zahara and had a cover on PEOPLE, along with quotes, etc… the bottom of the article was some info about how to adopt from Ethiopia, and some of the problems that the orphans/people go through. PEOPLE didn’t just include that out of the bottom of their heart. Plus, all publicity is good publicity (for Brad and Angie–people like hearing about babies, etc)…

    • Virgilia Coriolanus says:

      The bad thing is that I haven’t heard one word about the movie from George’s mouth. I still don’t know what it’s about. Has he talked about his character AT ALL? At least you know B&A will talk about the movie, their costars, and they know when to not make it about them (Oscar campaign for 12YAS comes to mind)……this movie looks terrible, and George is doing nothing for it.

      • Christin says:

        If he is talking about the movie plot, I don’t think it is being picked up. And he of all people should know that his personal life details will overshadow what he does say about the film. It might not in a couple of years, but now it absolutely will.

        If he wants to truly shill for this movie, he should keep the personal details at a minimum.

      • SuePerb says:

        But does he ever talk about his movies? Whenever I see any interview all he seemed to do was name drop Brad, Angie, Matt Damon, & his friend Barack. If he wasn’t name dropping he would tell people how he was the son of a newsman, he was sexiest man alive twice, how wonderful his house is in Italy and how he nearly sunk the Batman franchise. Amal is the new *insert name/Italy/sexiest/nipple batsuit.

    • Fa says:

      U wrong brad never over share life have heard him talking how he proposed to Angie no one know until now how he proposed to her they never told abt that, even when brad was promoting his last movie he only said that his marriage to Angie was different now they married that’s it he didn’t go into details & everyone know that brad doesn’t like to talk when he promote his movies. Angie something talked abt her kids but she never over share as well. Clooney go over board they asking him a simple question & he go into details TMI that’s the difference between them.

      • BNA FN says:

        @fa, you are so right, I have never heard anything about How Brad proposed to Angelina. The way fans found out was when they saw a ring on Angelina’s finger. Brad was asked about his wedding, he says it was a “lovely day”. I remember in April last year Angie mentioned in a interview that Brad was a great husband. No one has ever followed up on that. Then after the wedding in August, they mentioned they was married before August, no one knows when. That’s how private those two are.

      • meme says:

        Oh please, Brangelina sold their wedding pictures to 2 magazines and had it videotaped. They shared every freaking detail. You can like them all you want but they shill themselves ad nauseum when they have a movie coming out.

      • jen2 says:

        @meme–wow, I have not seen the video tape. Where can I find it!! And the details, (story and photos) in the two magazines are the same, so if there are other details and other magazines with different stories, I would love to see them, you know, like the guest list, gifts, pre parties, all the clothes, photos of Angelina’s dress fitting, what happened during and after they got married, with photos of course, etc. etc. Thanks as I missed it last year.

        There was a story in the NYT about the editor from People who was upset that they did not give more details and photos, unlike Clooney, so if the are more out there, they must be special.

      • Beep says:

        He definitely over shares. like that time he told the world that Shiloh Jolie Pitt wants to be called John. Then there’s those many interviews where he’s trying to explain why his marriage didn’t work- those got him in trouble and he had to apologize. Lol People seem to forget when he over shares or they just blame it on Angelina. Lol

      • noway says:

        I don’t think Brad and Angie are entirely quiet about their family life or marriage, but sorry George is way over the top compared to them. Plus Brad and Angie have been together for a long time now, and George and Amal just a few months and the coverage is ten times greater in such a short span. We are probably averaging one or two stories a week with pap walks. Seriously, people are delusional if they think it is the same. In order for George to get more personal he is going to have to tell us about the wedding night. This is beyond TMI. I too wonder why such a hard sell.

    • BNA FN says:

      @Mrs Wellen Melon, It appears you are not a fan of Brad or Angelina, why would you take the time to google Brad Pitt talking about his children? I’m. Fan and I have never google this. It’s strange how the non fans always know so much about the Jolie Pitts in order to throw shades on them.

      • jen2 says:

        What I find amusing is that Brad and Angelina are sometimes treated like they are the ONLY other couple in Hollywood. No matter the subject, they are frequently pulled into something they have no relation to. This is not the first time and probably won’t be the last.

      • Catelina says:

        for the record, I don’t have a problem with George talking about his wife sometimes. But he has hardly mentioned the movie he is promoting for the duration of his promotional run. The JPs (since someone had to insist on dragging them into it as usual) sell themselves, as all celebrities do, but they also talk at length about their movies (and overall careers) the process of them, the message of the movie. Furthermore, usually their personal talk isn’t nearly this detailed, it’s just about how wonderful family is, how fulfilling, that they love each other and the kids, etc. George is working harder to sell his marriage than he is to sell his movie, coupled with my opinion that he and Amal don’t make sense as a couple to me, don’t appear to have anything in common, that makes this whole thing come off suspiciously.

      • Fa says:

        He’s selling this like a TV reality person sell their life every single day

    • Beep says:

      Oh I agree. Back in the day even though she was totally open to talking about whatever -Angelina had a mysterious-ness about her and now that’s gone because of Brangelina. Like George She talks about Brad like she’s trying to convince us of something. Google that too, it’d be pretty hard to find an Angelina interview where she isn’t praising the ground Pitt walks on. it’s bizarre.
      They do use their children to promote movies… It all started when Shiloh was in one of his movies and of course there’s maleficent. Angelina also announced her mastectomy right before Pitt needed wwz to be a hit- it worked. He ended up looking like the “best partner evvvva” because he did what he was supposed to do.


      • Fa says:

        Angie is more open than brad but she never go into length to describe their marriage, but u have to admit that Clooney is sharing too much information, Clooney is telling people when they moving to their new house in England & what pub they frequent while there that’s TMI

      • sage says:

        I didn’t realise Angelina’s mastectomy made people all over the world watch WWZ. The power of Angelina, making Brad’s movie a hit.

      • noway says:

        Angelina’s mastectomy didn’t make WWZ a hit that is ridiculous. First I dispute the hit part production budget of 190 mill and made 202 mill domestic. It probably just made a bit of money with the International box office. Second, WWZ is zombies predominantly a male oriented crowd, and I am thinking the standing beside Angelina really had nothing to do with selling that.

  7. Virgilia Coriolanus says:

    And the sad thing is that he’s doing all this for a freaking Disney movie/summer blockbuster……not like there’s an Oscar in contention *coughcumberbatchcough*…….

  8. MooHoo says:

    c’mon with the cynicism – surely it’s because this is his first time on the road, promoting something and being interviewed heaps since they got married. so it is the first chance people have to really ask him about his wife. I think they will work. They both have strong family backgrounds.

  9. LetItB! says:

    Yawnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn! STFU already!

  10. Lilacflowers says:

    Just. Stop. Talking.

    And Tomorrowland totally looks like a summer blockbuster film, George.

  11. Kara says:

    its like people who constantly talk about their steamy love life. maybe we should get George a beer, tap him on the shoulder and he will break down and tell us whats really up.

    • tigerlily says:

      haha….do you think he’s as happpyyy as leann rhimes?

      • Sea Dragon says:

        NO ONE is as happpppeeeeeeeeeeee as Leann. Rumor has it she was on her knees for a half hour after he proposed. It was the first time she hadn’t said a word in months.

      • Greta says:

        Sea dragon omg!

  12. Christin says:

    This really is a mystery (his personal production, not whatever movie he is actually promoting). Instead of protesting too much, this is just detail overload. He timed the 28 minutes, or did he judge it by the playlist?

  13. PunkyMomma says:

    Upon examination, I believe I spy a Life Alert around George’s neck.

  14. boredblond says:

    By linking what he calls haters cloaked in anonymity with someone he (obviously) knows criticizing his film sort of negates his point. His childish response to them seems very Clooney, and her half hour omg seems so Kardashian-in-training. Free speech be damned..if you can’t fawn over these two and swallow the ongoing rhetoric they feed you via People and pap outings, then he thinks you’ve lost the right to say anything. He and his never-ending selling of this most conspicuous coupling is at this point tiresome and desperate. Go away.

  15. Miss M says:

    So… When George boy gets upset with people, he throws shade at their weight?! That phrase alone explains so many things about him … No wonder all his girls lost weight when they became official.

    ps: You know, some people gain weight for medical reasons, George…

  16. Veronica says:

    Normally, I could care less about celebrity romance details, but after the GoT mess this week, hearing Clooney talk about his wife with admiration and fondness is making me feel better about life. So go ahead, Cloones. Shill it for all it’s worth.

  17. Eleonor says:

    We should all be thanking his messy back otherwise he will be jumping on a damn couch.

  18. TippyToes says:

    No one cares, he has reached Tom Cruise levels of trying to convince the public that this is a real relationship. I’m just going to start calling her Katie Holmes.

  19. Ethelreda says:

    “I asked her, and she just kept saying, ‘Oh my, God,’ and ‘Wow,’ and we just sat there. And finally, I just said, ‘Listen, I’m 53 at the time, or 52 at the time, I think. I said, ‘I’ve been on my knee for about 28 minutes so I gotta get an answer out of this because I’m gonna throw a hip out! I might not be able to stand back up.’”

    Hang on a sec. First he says ‘we just sat there’ and then he says he was on his knees for half an hour? Which is it George? It can’t be both.

    Of course we all know it’s neither. This story is SO made up. It’s obvious. He just saw in films that getting down on one knee is what romantic STRAIGHT men do to propose, just as having an ott wedding in Venice is what STRAIGHT men do, and kissing your wife’s hand in public is a nice gesture that STRAIGHT men do.

    Of course it is, George.

    • Ange says:

      Or it might be true and he’s spinning it positively because he proposed to a woman after only a few months and she wasn’t sure she wanted in?

  20. Heathering says:

    Interesting he got his age at the time wrong. Granted, could just be a slip but, with so much other fulsome ‘DETAIL’ to his anecdoting this unforgettable (28 min moment), odd? When relating a ‘fiction’ as true (no matter how well rehearsed) it is often the little things, which should naturally trip off the tongue (if truthful), a tale teller fluffs on. Too busy trying to remember the fancier false embellishments to keep the easy factual on straightforward track.

    I don’t believe this relationship to be real in the sense of a REAL marriage at all. I do, however, believe them both to be totally invested in the promotion and furtherance of it (along with an enlarging cast of others) indefinitely. I’m with Kaiser, “why”?

    There’s not even any apparent attempt at subtlety on this misdirection now. OR, is that its real slight of hand? Ayeyaya?!? This is a compact made but who is running it?

    Oh, and I know the Rosemary Clooney music was meant to sound sweet. But, a REAL couple would have, by proposal stage, found their own shared music for a better playlist surely?

    I respect he was close to his aunt but, were he on bended knee in front of me (for 28 min OR 28 secs), I’d not want our proposal moment to be wrapped up as a corny tribute to a late relative. (No shade to RC).

    BUT then I suppose for a fake proposal story the playlist can be anything. Wonder what the playlist (on shuffle for sure) was for the sweet & real marriage brokering by third parties moment?

    • DogMom says:

      Someone somewhere (Disney, his agents, contract PR people) is running sentiment analysis on every GC story on the top 10 – 20 celebrity blogs (which Celebitchy is definitely one) and laughing. Or crying. Or looking for a new job.

      Sorry but I’ve ran corp social media too long to dismiss online comments as ‘haters gonna hate’. People who self-select to comment on blogs and websites are (statistically speaking) a more engaged audience than the just the viewers (or worse -those that don’t view!). In short, pissing off an engaged audience is not how one builds a brand worthy of continued investment.

      Just another uninformed moronic internet troll

      • Heathering says:

        I tried to post a comment re: the mechanisms in play and the influence of PR messaging and re messaging; plus “a treat an increasingly more sophisticated (like CB) audience with ‘take for granted as dumb’ disdain, at your peril” type angle but it couldn’t make it to the Board for some reason.

        Whilst still curious as to why it was Mod’ed out, I’m just glad you posted to touch upon it. Anyhow, such is life as an, apparently, “uninformed, moronic troll”.

      • Heathering says:

        Out of interest: how do they factor out their own ‘PR people usernames/accounts’, pushing their message, in analysis?

        NB – NOT NOT on CB because there appears little to no trace of that here! CB seems one of the least on that re Clooney. But elsewhere I have noticed some as obvious and with a pattern.

        Abstract curiosity? Which, tbh, was the prompt (now root) of my interest in Amal/George mania.

        I dislike the sense of such obviously playing people for fools when appearing to espouse quite the opposite values. Too much misdirection and misrepresentation has me dug in for the long haul. It may say something negative about me that that has been my response, but that doesn’t automatically preclude any validity I may have when expressing a response in the “negative” (according to George). I’m just thinking and ‘speaking’ my thoughts and won’t apologise (or accept the lame “haters” or “just jealous”) for not conforming to accepting the Clooney’s preferred take on things. Especially when their PR reach has very actively chosen to go beyond simply promoting or furthering interests in solely the entertainment sphere.

      • DogMom says:

        Typically if there are shills engaged the way the reporting happens is…

        day 1: measure sentiment = horrible / negative
        day 2: engagement begins using x,y,z talking points
        day 10: engagement ends
        day 11: measure sentiment = not so horrible / negative

        In my experience, the change in brand sentiment is measured over a period of time with notes of engagement (offline ex: gc interview w/dailymail and online: shill engaging in communities) and the delta is what is reported back to the client, not a day in time snapshot.

        An individual (or group) of shills won’t drown the overall sentiment unless said brand is paying tons for community mgmt see: China’s 50cent Army.

        BTW: I believe the Kardiashians do a fabulous job understanding the connection between online sentiment and brand value. Honestly, they could teach gc and aa a thing or two on how to manage a celebrity brand in 2015. (And I can’t stand the Kardashians.)

      • Heathering says:

        @Dogmom +1 but I’m not sure his current PR are “shouting” as such. I reckon the ‘marriage’ brought a team change. A team more invested in Amal, at all costs.

        Perhaps it’s more Baria isn’t as good a Kris as had been hoped.

        Anyhow, it is gonna keep on keeping on, whatever. Amal’s next ‘legal’ play/grab rumoured to be “worth watching out for” ;-)

        And yep “put on” just ask the supposed Microsoft IT Dept ‘operator’ who phish called me to have explained to him my understanding of the pitfalls in granting remote access. He took so much exception to my calling him a “con artist” he ACTUALLY called me back (after I’d disengaged) to protest his ‘innocence’ from his ‘boiler room’.

        /this may have been misplaced re thread flow. My fault! Multitasking.

      • cleo says:

        very well said dogmom.

    • Heathering says:

      @Dogmom bloomin’ heck. NOW this is why CB and its ilk is worth some time in the day (other reasons too, obviously).

      It has been interesting to glean much of the process in play from just reading/observing but your post really informs it. And helps me not feel too much of a numpty for being unsure, but sensing it being strategised – if that makes sense.

      I have long equated the Clooneys with the Kardashians. Posted to that effect. Similar base moves, substantially greater to gain (motives?), but less ‘honesty’. Which makes me feel even more squirrely about it all. The Kardashians are obvious in their horridness and reasons for famewh*. The Clooneys appeared to offer up something different (a veil of credible) yet, it now seems to come from the same style of manufacturer – just a better seemingly rated model.

      Ultimately, the Kardashians know what they are selling is bs for their own ends. So they’re not concerned in wrapping in an extra layer of credibility. It is what it is. Clooney PR need that extra layer to distinguish/disguise themselves. But being too quick to weave that extra layer… holes happened?

      • DogMom says:

        Not to be overly cheeky but ‘authenticity’ is the secret sauce on social media or anywhere user created content occurs. People can smell fake like a bloodhound even across the internet. Think: swarmy emails vs genuniue ones. You, as a reasonable individual, know when you’re being put on and not based on a host of textual clues. Actually not picking up on language cues can be construed as a warning sign for greater problems in one’s life.

        And, in my professional opinion, Kris Jenner is a bloody pro at running her brand. She really is. Might be a horrible person but an amazing brand manager.

        George (as has been pointed out by Siri at the bottom of this tread) is trying to run his PR with a playbook from about 2 decades ago. And it’s showing. Why he doesn’t take advice or (listen to the advice that is undoubtedly being shouted at him) is really the main story as far as I’m concerned.

        I don’t care if he’s gay, madly in love, moving to the UK or running for office. I want to know why he’s ignoring his advisers. Because ignoring your hired guns says alot more about you as a professional and your *real* objective than whatever prattle is being blasted across the airwaves.

      • noway says:

        @Dogmom I too would like to know why he is ignoring his advisors, and I have a stinking idea that he is taking cues from the Mother-in-law. The funny thing is he could go with not caring about the social media aspect as he is an accomplished actor and director and really doesn’t need to be that out there, but then you really should keep your life private. If he had stuck with his former message, and just occasionally answered a few questions, not tons of personal interviews, designer dud wardrobe layouts for Amal and lets not forget the pap walks, he really wouldn’t have this issue of oversell and he would have looked far more consistent in his brand & image, now he looks like Tom Cruise meltdown. Another case where an actor let his PR people go away.

      • Christin says:

        This is very interesting, because I have noticed the rather obvious shills on some comment boards. Like you say, it is just a bit too obvious.

        I am truly getting a Cruise vibe here. To have one’s PR veer so suddenly and arguably poorly is reminiscent of when he changed his PR person (and it showed almost immediately).

      • siri says:

        All your comments confirm to me why CB is worth the time spent on it. Thank you!! And I agree with @noway- it’s not about Clooney the person, but rather the selling of his image that’s so interesting, and controversial. I have a simple (perhaps overly so) idea about it: Baria has taken over, albeit not officially so. And I also believe that was part of the deal. Only it’s an old-fashioned, and not overly smart way of marketing. I wouldn’t be surprised if we soon get to see a full editorial on her wardrobe, or a ” At home in GB with the Clooneys”. Did anybody notice there is a “Mr.&Mrs.Clooney” tumblr site?
        Who started that?
        I wonder why they do not notice that the public already is oversaturated with personal details. Because I DO think they read tabloid outlets, and are trying to adjust at times.

  21. Ana says:

    Couch jumping in 3, 2, 1….

  22. Tough Cookie says:

    “Don’t ever read comments on anything! People can live anonymously,….”

    Seriously, George. Try than anonymity thing for awhile. Please.

    • sofia says:

      If he read the comments maybe he would learn something. We are not all stupid and offensive just because we like to hide behind a screen, people around here actually bring up some valid points. But he probably thinks we are like 50 year old women living in a basement or something.

  23. sofia says:

    George, I know you say you don’t read this but you know you do. Advice: “SHOW, DON’T TELL”. OK? Was this too negative for you? UGH.

    • Tough Cookie says:

      or better yet…..”Don’t Show OR Tell.”

      • Sofia says:

        I didn’t want to be too harsh on him, you know, he is the kind of person who can’t handle well having someone saying to him that his last film sucks.

  24. Beep says:

    Maybe he’s sick? He looks horrible without his premiere makeup. Pale and like he drinks too much – or just ill.

    • Ethelreda says:

      He’s aged about 1O years since his wedding – there’s a message there somewhere!

      George has always looked mature for his age but now he actually looks elderly. And still thinks he’s a heartthrob.

  25. Lorenzo says:

    He’s such a stubborn old mule, when everybody is telling him to shut up, he’s going on and on.

    My goodness, he must be a real challenge as a friend.

    SHUT UP, George!

  26. Dr.Funkenstein says:

    LOL Sure, George. I mean, everything you Hollywood folk do is so much more spectacular and meaningful than the things we ordinary mortals do in the real world. Married 32 years here. Come back and tell me about your great romance when you get there. It’s not about flash and ritual. It’s about love and commitment. We’ll see.

    • Christin says:

      Seriously. Genuine love and commitment are what matter.

      Does anyone remember the specific number of minutes it took for proposal and answer? I know the age I was when I was engaged, yet I would have to guess at the rest.

  27. Montréalaise says:

    When I saw the headline, my first reaction was “Yes, arthritis is a b*tch”.

  28. BasicsGonna says:

    He’s trying to divert your attention from the fact that Amal is a contract bride. A beard. Clooney has political aspirations and Amal is smart, politically active, beautiful, etc.

  29. Jayna says:

    For the Love of God, can we all use some common sense and understand he was saying tongue-in-cheek that he was on his knee for “28 minutes”? Has anyone every seen him talk in interviews? A lot is making fun of himself, like in this story with exaggerating about being on his knees for 28 minutes. Other than that, he is carrying on too much about his beloved Amal. But I always like hearing about stars’ proposals. People only hate it when they dislike the celeb and rip it apart. At least it’s better than Howard Stern’s story of being nude in bed and proposing. Yuck.

    Carry on.

  30. kai says:

    I’ve been re-watching “Lost” and it’s true, when you take away the mystery, the writing is mediocre at best. It actually shocked me, because I didn’t notice the first time. The first time was SO.MUCH.FUN. and you can never get that back. that’s the real issue here, George.

  31. Fa says:

    Also Clooney is lying when he said it a surprise proposition & they never talked abt it before, well her family confirmed to people magazine while back that he asked her father her hand everyone know PM do not reported false sources, I think they talk abt the subject before the proposition, Clooney talking like he’s writing a romance book where everything is perfect, it is like fiction book & expect us to buy it the story

  32. Jag says:

    I only clicked on this story because it was causing me rage every time I loaded the page to see what else to read.

    George, I don’t care!

    • elle says:

      hahaha… me, too! Someone else commented that he has aged rapidly since getting married, and I agree. Somebody must have pictures of him with a goat and he’s dancing like a puppet on a string to keep them hidden. Judging by these daily updates on his great love for Amal, they must flash a picture at him every time he relaxes, so up he jumps again. He looks worn out and desperate.

  33. Tough Cookie says:

    I’ve learned more about George Clooney in the past 6 months than I had in the past 30 years.

    That is NOT necessarily a good thing.

  34. jane16 says:

    I think when he talks about the “social media” trolls, he’s talking about the comment threads on sites like just jare d, which is unmoderated, and has some of the craziest, and vilest things about George and especially Amal. Seriously, if you have a few minutes, take a look.

    • noway says:

      You might be right, Direct Mail is pretty bad too. Still I think he looks at this stuff definitely a lot more than he probably should, and it bothers him a lot more than it should.

      • Heathering says:

        Weirdly, very weirdly, factoring out the standard DM “duh, she’s so fugly” OR “he’s so past it” responses to be expected on any article (and give sideeyes to), DM comments (for pages of the most part) have made for interesting reading on Clooney.

        There are a lot more enquiring posts than usual. On many articles now, the, albeit ‘negatively’ framed, “why”, “this is too much, I’m not buying it for all the talk”, “but if that, why this, not computing” are really beginning to noise out the typical ill-*insert suitable ‘DM type’ response. And that seems to be coming from everywhere. Plus, there’s a fair bit of detailing of contradictions and countering of holes in the Clooney script too. With receipts and citations.

        Clooney support is largely playing “just jealous” or gush. Which seems to be often reinforcing the fence sitters rather than persuading them.

        And the OVER-PR is knocking more over to the ‘yep, it’s a crock’ than it is convincing doubters of the Clooney authenticity.

        So, weirdly, DM Comment has upped it’s game a bit. NOW that’s either a sign the apocalypse is coming OR that Clooney PR need a real reframe/rethink.

        Can’t believe that’s my take on DM of late (in the Clooney specific) but it is.

        People just seem to sense something is off. It may be intangible but it’s hard to counteract in PR terms.

    • lisa2 says:

      @ jane
      Actually JJ is moderated. If there is an offensive post then people can flag it. thing is people aren’t doing that. And there are many sites that are much more vial. Dlisted being one. That site is not moderated.

  35. Fa says:

    Since the accident with DM abt religion. The DM posted positive headline abt him & he still call them evil

  36. Ana says:

    This is just sad now. Talk about the movie, your character, what attracted you to the role, George. It can’t be so bad that you need to distract with this nonsense.

  37. wow says:

    He is really still trying to push this marriage. Like didn’t they include the whole marriage proposal in the wedding issue People Mag did on them? He needs to chill on that because “we’re good on that spiel”. We get it. A lot of us still aren’t buying it, but we get it.

  38. Nimbolicious says:

    Ok, between the proposal story and the how-we-met story, it’s obvious that at this point he’s just makin’ s$&t up as he goes.

    And another thing, Georgie. If you don’t like how all the haters are throwing shade at you and your stories, then just friggin’ stop with all the sharing. Really, it isn’t that hard…..

  39. siri says:

    He’s right about one thing: anonymity CAN bring out the worst in people. The rest is whining. We all know he doesn’t take criticism very well, but he sets himself up for it at the same time. Doesn’t make sense. Then he should refrain from pushing us through this PR circus, and just live happily ever after with his working spouse (Joseph Gordon Levitt comes to mind). IF you don’t want to be seen, you won’t be, and quite a few of his collegues prove this. But he was, and still IS, too eager to convince everybody of his fairytale marriage&relationship that he simply has to live with people taking a good look. And they react with revulsion when something is shoved so aggressively down their throats. Also, George still doesn’t get that PR by now has a different quality than decades ago, he obviously can’t change his ways accordingly. And definitely not everyone airing some ‘negative’ opinion is a “hater”. Usually, as someone else posted in an earlier comment, people posting on boards like this are, for whatever reason, the more engaged part of the public, not just idiots who have too much time on their hands. And his fat shaming response to someone critical, or, in his understanding, negative, is plain offensive. And immature. I seem to remember George talking in the 90s about never wanting to complain because he’s got a good life…so, what changed? And WHY did he start putting stories out of the proposal on knees, the pub they go to in GB, the dog they’ve got etc. HE is the one who should control HIS PR- or who’s doing it for him in the meantime? It looks to me as if he’s not only immensely insecure, and VERY concerned about his image, noticing that the public doesn’t really buy into his new one, but that he doesn’t have much influence on his PR anymore. Within the past couple of days there have been plenty of meaningless non-stories about him in every big celebrity outlet, just to keep him relevant, and to promote Tomorrowland- why that kind of overload? HE is his own biggest enemy, he just doesn’t understand it.

    • DogMom says:

      Actually if he promoted Tomorrowland and not GC, alot of the negativity might go by the wayside.

      • Heathering says:

        For “not GC” I’d replace “just NOT Always Amal (either as a beneficiary of OR giver of reflected glory)”. Because in the context of Hollywood and Star of a movie promo – in isolation, blanking out the last few months of PR – GC promoting GC (the actor, HW mainstay with a wee touch of personal), that’d be fine. Few would’ve argued against a Star being a bit starry when they’re being paid to promote BECAUSE they have the earned Star cache.

        It’s all the marriage related promo side tracks and quick change the junction points which are the derail.

    • boredblond says:

      Siri..if disguising one’s identity is the culprit, his latest tale told to some brit talk show host takes the cake..he says he’s been sending people letters on Pitt letterhead, as Pitt, for a year. Then of course talked about his world famous wife. His maturity seems to have peaked around age 13..anyone who takes him seriously should rethink that choice.

      • siri says:

        Speechless…how irresponsibly dumb is that? We’ve all heard about his love for ‘practical’ jokes, but you are right, you might do those kind of things when in puberty…and yes, that’s what it is, a VERY prolonged adolescence. Pitt must be delighted…no wonder they just meet when doing a film together.

  40. S says:

    What a ham.

    • Livealot says:

      LOL. After reading everyone’s diatribe this comment was the best. Short and sweet

  41. as says:

    How many actors married this year, did they gave that much talk about their partner???

  42. Wheeze says:

    He can’t stop talking about her precisely because he DOES pay attention to online trolls. Some of the stuff that’s been said about her online has been head shaking stuff. Stuff about her looks etc. I think George has been trying too hard with this since the beginning. No one’s ever going to like her, probably, except for the gossip rags who love a good headline, so live with it.

    • aga says:

      At the beginning of their relationship general conclusion was completely different than today – people like her because she was supposed to be “normal”, smart woman with substance, not some entertainer.

  43. Thinker says:

    Actually in 1787 plenty of people aired their opinions anonymously. Smear campaigns originated with the founding fathers. Aaron Burr killed Alexander Hamilton over an anonymous pamphlet that circulated New York suggesting Burr had an incestuous relationship with his daughter Theodosia.

    But hey, George. Don’t let the internet stop you from your pseudo-intellectualism. Phony.

  44. George is trollin us, and I’m gonna spank him.

  45. golden retriever says:

    I have no understanding of PR, yet Id like to offer advice on whatever stage we are up to in the Clooney PR strat for 2015…. Shut up and go directly to your nearest mansion and stay there indefinitely.

  46. serena says:

    Why is he not couch-jumping yet? I’m just waiting for it to happen.

    By the way, about the trolling comments.. I think there’s a difference between taking a critic and NOT wanting to hear it. I think it’s the latter , in George’s case.

  47. nicole king says:

    He really is starting to act like Tom Cruise, I never thought he would go that way. He really is starting to become a joke.