Bill Cosby admitted drugging women with quaaludes in a 2005 interview

Bill Cosby

A new bomb dropped in the ongoing Bill Cosby allegations of sexual abuse. Vulture still keeps a highly detailed running timeline of everything that happens with this story. We’ve discussed how many women, including Beverly Johnson and Janice Dickinson, have come forward with very similar tales of how Cosby drugged and raped them. The total number of women has passed 40 now, and there must be many more victims out there.

All along, Cosby tried to bury the truth. He tried to strongarm an AP journalist into burying an interview video. He had the audacity to ask “the black media to remain neutral. Cosby also paid six-figure fees to private investigators to dig up information on his accusers. Most recently, he rambled like a fool on GMA while dodging questions about assault allegations.

Yesterday, damning court testimony became public. Cosby previously tried to keep the records sealed. He argued that he wasn’t a public figure in order to maintain “confidentiality.” This is a shameless claim. Cosby has lived most of his life in the spotlight and profited nicely. He used his fame to coerce women into compromising situations, but he doesn’t want his fame to work against him in court. Well, the court ruled that Cosby “voluntarily narrowed the zone of privacy that he is entitled to claim,” and the AP obtained the documents. Cosby reportedly revealed that, yes, he did drug women for sex:

Bill Cosby admitted in 2005 that he secured quaaludes with the intent of giving them to young women he wanted to have sex with and that he gave the sedative to at least one woman and “other people,” according to documents obtained Monday by The Associated Press.

Cosby’s lawyers insisted that two of the accusers knew they were taking quaaludes from the comedian, according to the unsealed documents.

Nevertheless, attorneys for some of the numerous women suing Cosby seized on the testimony as powerful corroboration of what they have been saying all along: that he drugged and raped women.

The AP had gone to court to compel the release of a deposition in a sexual-abuse case filed by former Temple University employee Andrea Constand, the first of a cascade of lawsuits against him that have severely damaged his good-guy image.

Cosby, 77, has been accused by more than two dozen women of sexual misconduct in episodes dating back more than four decades. Cosby has never been charged with a crime, and the statute of limitations on most of the accusations has expired.

“If today’s report is true, Mr. Cosby admitted under oath 10 years ago sedating women for sexual purposes,” said Lisa Bloom, attorney for model Janice Dickinson, who says she was drugged and raped. “Given that, how dare he publicly vilify Ms. Dickinson and accuse her of lying when she tells a very similar story?”

Celebrity attorney Gloria Allred, who is representing several women, said she hopes to use the admission in court cases against the comedian.

Cosby, giving sworn testimony in the lawsuit accusing him of sexual assaulting Constand at his home in Pennsylvania in 2004, said he obtained seven quaalude prescriptions in the 1970s. Constand’s lawyer asked if he had kept the sedatives through the 1990s, after they were banned, but was frustrated by objections from Cosby’s attorney.

“When you got the quaaludes, was it in your mind that you were going to use these quaaludes for young women that you wanted to have sex with?” Troiani asked.

“Yes,” Cosby answered.

[From Associated Press]

The story grows more disturbing, but the public needs to hear this news. Deadspin gathered all the documents that Cosby and his lawyers don’t want you to read. Details include how Cosby allegedly offered money to women for their “education.” At one point, Cosby insisted that he only offered “Benadryl” to Andrea Constand. Then he admits having several prescriptions for Quaaludes at once and giving them to other people. Cosby admits to an encounter with a 19-year-old victim: “She meets me back stage. I give her Quaaludes. We then have sex.

The documents at Deadspin are extensive, and there are many mentions of “educational trusts” that Cosby set up for these women. What a sick, sick man. Once again, thank goodness for Hannibal Buress for reopening the public interest in the Cosby matter.

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  1. tracking says:

    It’s a shame he isn’t behind bars, but I hope this can be used as evidence in loads of civil suits.

    • doofus says:

      agree on both points. what a sick F he is, and now all the people who defended him better eat their words.

      I want this man’s legacy to be NOTHING but ruined when he eventually dies.

      ETA: not wishing death on him, just justice for these women.

      • Sasha says:

        From what I’ve read (on the Hollywood reporter, for example) , people who were defending his ugly ass still defend him screaming, “we need the whole transcript”, and, “he admitted to have given a woman Benadryl”, when he clearly said that the quaaludes were for the purpose of giving them to women he wanted to have sex with.
        I really love the comments where all the women were whores and drugs were everywhere back then, yadda yadda.
        I wonder if Whoopi will be on The View today and if she is, will she be saying much of the same? She was a self-admitted drug fueled ho in her day so to her it’s all really not a big deal anyway.
        Doubt we’ll hear anything from Phylicia Rashad and Camille.

        Didn’t he get all his pills from Dr. Mark Saginor, aka Dr. Feelgood, who was Hefner’s good buddy? I don’t understand how that man still has a medical license.

      • Colleen says:

        Yeah, because 46 women coming forward with the same horrid story is not enough for some people.

        Cosby is long beyond the point of “damn, I screwed up and I’m sorry” (not that he ever would say that), but I feel petty when I see this man or his hear his name. I find myself wishing the worst on him and his wife. Their warped senses of self have been placed way above everyone else, including their helpless victims. I want to see them leveled in the most degrading way possible.

      • mary simon says:

        “I want this man’s legacy to be NOTHING but ruined when he eventually dies.” This.

      • joan says:

        What doesn’t get mentioned is that he hung around the Playboy mansion and there have got to be lots of people, plus Cosby’s agents, mgrs., lawyers, gofers, etc., who know LOTS about this and just haven’t said anything.

        He’s the biggest hypocrite but surely he’s not the only guy who did stuff like this. Plus all the cheating and drugs that was voluntary rather than rape.

        Maybe that’s why the lid’s on so tight — there are so many.

        But HIS kink was the secret drugging, and secretly doing what he wanted. Who knows what THAT was.

    • Kiki04 says:

      Ugh agreed. Its times like this that the whole “statute of limitations” sickens me for keeping someone like this out from behind bars.

    • Shambles says:

      Agree with everyone. He’s a twisted f*ck who should have been sent to prison a long time ago. The fact that he a still thinks he deserves any type of leeway makes me so ill. He used his status to prey on women when it was convenient, but now he’s “not a public figure” because it doesn’t suit him. He’s a narcissistic sociopath and he makes me want to vomit.

      • Kitten says:

        Yeah his sheer arrogance and lack of remorse is what makes it so much worse. He does not deserve forgiveness.

      • GoodNamesAllTaken says:

        It’s like he doesn’t even see, still, that he did anything wrong. Even though he has been lying through his teeth since this came out. I wonder why he told the truth in the deposition – I bet they had proof of the prescriptions.

      • Kiddo says:

        I was wondering about that GNAT; WHY he admitted this. Supposedly, the US stopped making them a long time ago and I can’t imagine a doctor from the 70s or a pharmacy STILL keeping those records. Most of the pharmacies these days are chains, not mom and pop operations that have operated continuously. And the government didn’t follow controlled substances then, at least electronically. So long story short, I question whether there was proof. I’m thinking he is just so arrogant that he admitted it, like it wasn’t a big deal. I don’t know, though.

      • Lucrezia says:

        I think it was a case of admitting something he’d sound believable when denying something else. The most believable lies are the ones that are 2/3rds truth.

        The quaaludes he admitted to were in the 70’s. Since he admitted that/those instances, he sounded much more believable when he said that the pills in the 2005 case were just Benadryl.

      • littlestar says:

        GNAT, Kiddo – he probably didn’t think it would ever affect him, that he would continue to get away with it. He wasn’t really “telling the truth” as we see it (not sure how to articulate myself correctly there). He was probably ambivalent about it all, like he is now. He’s not normal (whether he’s a narcissist, sociopath…). He still acts like we’re all the crazy ones for accusing him of raping women and he’s innocent (like he honestly believes he was justified in what he did).

      • FLORC says:

        littlestar and all. Yes! He’s a monster.

      • Megan says:

        How can his wife stand by him?

    • Ellen says:

      I want Janice’s original manuscript from the early 2000s published.

    • Santia says:

      Even those defending him for putting benadryl in someone’s drink are nuts. He still drugged them!

      • embertine says:

        Doesn’t American Benedryl make people kind of loopy (it’s a different drug here in the UK, so for years I was baffled by all the people saying that they were off their tits on the stuff)? How is that better?!

      • doofus says:

        Benedryl’s active ingredient (the antihistamine) can cause drowsiness…and I will tell you that HALF of one pill knocks me out within about a half hour. not “loopy” at all…straight up passed out. it’s why I don’t take it anymore unless it’s right before bed.

      • JenniferJustice says:

        Yes re Benadryl. That’s why it’s prescribed for dogs with anxiety. It doesn’t just calm them – it knocks them out – like sprawled on the floor drooling – out!

  2. Tiffany27 says:

    I hope his disgusting defenders read these documents. He’s a POS and needs to be in prison.

    • Erinn says:

      Oh they have. I saw people STILL defending him on Buzzfeed last night. There’s a fb group called ‘we stand by cosby’ or something of that nature. Slut shaming, claiming gold digging, saying ‘why would someone who got raped go on vacation two years later with the rapist’ and things of that nature. The documents, to them, prove nothing.

    • Pinky says:

      I think it’s time people ignore his defenders. Who cares what they think? Why work yourself up or get upset because of the inane trolling/ramblings of irrational pig-headed attention seekers with serious issues of their own? It makes no sense trying to convince others anonymously on the Internet of the “right” point of view–on any topic. Just stick to your own line of thinking, one that hopefully involves rational thought, exploration, question-asking, and logical conclusions.

      You will never win an argument with a fanatic of any kind (or a zealot, or a sociopath, or a racist, or a big…ot, or a misogynist, or an extremist, or pretty much any kind of “ist” there is–online or off).

      • I Choose Me says:

        Sound advice Pinky. I recently had to de-friend my own brother on Facebook for his homophobic rants after SCOTUS voted to legalize gay marriage. My blood pressure’s a lot better for it.

      • Tiffany27 says:

        You’re right Pinky, it’s just infuriating. Like, what the hell do we have to do prove we don’t deserve acts of sexual violence??? Or any violence for that matter.

      • ZombieRick says:

        You are so so so right pinky.

  3. GingerCrunch says:

    GET HIM!

  4. Liz says:

    He’s scum.

  5. Aussie girl says:

    He is a sexual predator that taken advantage of and abused far too many women. He needs to be locked up for his crimes and spend the rest of his life behind bars. How he continues to be able to live in society is beyond me.

  6. cannibell says:

    Somebody just got pulled over by the karma police…..

  7. Kiddo says:

    Methaqualone, brand name Quaalude (sometimes stylized Quāālude[1]) /ˈkweɪluːd/ in the US and Mandrax in the UK, is a central nervous system (CNS) depressant of the quinazolinone class that acts as a sedative and hypnotic.

    The drug was often used by hippies and by people who went dancing at glam rock clubs in the early 1970s and at discos in the late 1970s. (One slang term for Quaalude was disco biscuits.) In the mid-1970s there were bars in Manhattan called juice bars that only served non-alcoholic drinks that catered to people who liked to dance on methaqualone.[15….Effects
    Effects can include drowsiness, dizziness, reduced heart rate, reduced respiration, increased sexual arousal (aphrodisia), erectile dysfunction, and paresthesias (numbness of the fingers and toes). Larger doses can bring about respiratory depression, slurred speech, headache, and photophobia (a symptom of excessive sensitivity to light)….Overdose An overdose can cause delirium, convulsions, hypertonia, hyperreflexia, vomiting, kidney failure, coma, and death through cardiac or respiratory arrest. It resembles barbiturate poisoning, but with increased motor difficulties and a lower incidence of cardiac or respiratory depression. The standard one tablet adult dosage of Quaalude was 75 mg; a dose of 8000 mg is lethal. However, a dose as little as 2000 mg could also be lethal, especially if taken with an alcoholic beverage.[3]

    Posted this ^ since I wasn’t really familiar with them, thought others might be interested.

    • Esmom says:

      Thank you. I wasn’t really familiar with them either. The fact that he went out of his way to get numerous prescriptions for them to have on hand makes my skin crawl.

    • Kitten says:

      Come on man, you never read Less Than Zero?

    • Sixer says:

      I know about Quaaludes from Armistead Maupin’s Tales of the City series! Not a trade name we use in the UK much, so if it wasn’t for Michael Tolliver et al, I’d be none the wiser either!

      • Kiddo says:

        You guys, I heard of them, I just wasn’t fully familiar with them.

      • Sixer says:

        Same here, Kiddo. I wasn’t sniggering; more saying thanks for posting by sharing my own ignorance!

      • Esmom says:

        I’d heard of them too, lol, primarily through pop culture references (Loved Tales of the City!)…but still I appreciated Kiddo’s more detailed tutorial on their effects.

    • Lucrezia says:

      They had a different name in Australia, so I only knew the word via Dennis Leary. (Ludes man, f***ing Ludes!)

      They work on GABA receptors, like alcohol, ambien, xanax or valium.

    • Pinky says:

      WTH were they invented for? Were the created as a party drug or did they had a medicinal application, at least initially? (Since one needed a doctor to prescribe them?) Obviously I could look that up myself, but I thought I’d add to the conversation. : )

    • michelle says:

      He is lucky none of these girls died while with him. I’m sure he would have concocted a story or somehow got rid of the body.

      • Neonscream says:

        Not really, to make someone drowsy enough for date rape using methaqualone is a very much lower dose than that you would need to cause a fatal OD. It wasn’t banned because of the overdose risk (75mg was plenty to induce the drowsiness – a fatal dose was in the thousands of mg) but because of its popularity as a recreational drug. Years before being officially banned though, the rights to it were sold because it had become a PR nightmare, partly because it was a perfect date rape drug (although there are still plenty others still available).

    • TeaAndSympathy says:

      Thanks for the info, Kiddo. I’d heard of Quaaludes, too, from “Tales of the City”, and I think they were mentioned quite a bit when Presley died. I don’t remember them being available in Australia.

      Lucrezia, having read Kiddo’s post, I think these things were marketed here in Australia as Mandrax. I remember lots of people who frequented various notorious venues in Sydney talking about (how they and others used) them.

      I’m glad I’ve ,never been a Cosby fan – it makes it so much easier to despise him.

  8. NewWester says:

    I wonder what his defenders will have to say now? My son made a comment about how he wonders if Bill Cosby was making some sick joke to the world during the Cosby Show. He pointed out that Cliff Huxtable was a OB/GYN on the show. Gross

    • Kiddo says:

      Not that I agree, I DO NOT, but I know what the defenders are going to say, that the women KNOWINGLY took drugs, because they were slutty drug users, it was the 70s, things were different blah blah, and Bill was only giving them what they wanted. I fully expect his wife to say something similar, if she remains a supporter.

      Even IF you wanted to go THAT route in defense, what was Mr Squeaky Clean Popsicle Breath Smugness doing getting PRESCRIPTION DRUGS fraudulently to serve them to people he wanted to have sex with? Isn’t this the type of thing he’d chastise the black community for? Using recreational drugs, or PROVIDING recreational drugs ILLEGALLY?

      • NewWester says:

        Oh I hope you did not think that any of these women were not victims or Bill Cosby is not guilty as sin. I was pointing out this man portrayed a decent family man to the world but was actually a sick predator. He is a very sick and terrible excuse for a human being.

      • embertine says:

        I’m afraid you’re right, Kiddo. Time and again, we have seen that abusers and harassers are very good at playing the plausible poor-me card to those closest to them, until those people have invested so much time and energy in defending them that they feel they can’t back down even as the lies start to unravel.

        And in the case of his wife, how much easier to keep flying the flag than admit you wasted your life on a monster.

      • blue marie says:

        Gah, this just turns my stomach.. And I would say to defenders, even if the women knowingly took the pills it still doesn’t give him the right to force himself on anyone.

      • Kiddo says:

        Jill Scott:

        Commenters are taking her statements/tweets to task, under the article.

      • Amy Tennant says:

        I empathize with Scott. I didn’t agree with her on Cosby, but I’ve been in the same situation. My mentor told me he was innocent, and I stayed loyal longer than I should. When something like this happens suddenly your world doesn’t make sense anymore. I couldn’t trust myself as a judge of character anymore. I veered back and forth as to whether I hated him or myself more. Now Jill may not have a problem there as she’s not sorry she stood by Cosby and I’m terribly sorry I fell for my boss’s act. Still, it was a traumatic experience for me, and I’m still dealing with it three years later.

      • embertine says:

        Hmmm. I’m glad that Jill Scott has admitted that she was wrong and I admire her for doing so, but I can’t agree that all she was looking for was “proof”. What she was looking for was for Cosby to be indicted by his own confession, because the testimony of the 40+ women who spoke out about his abuse apparently wasn’t enough.

        Firstly, it’s a creepy example of a man’s word being taken as so much more valuable and reliable than a woman’s. And secondly, the standard that a rapist is only a rapist if he explicitly admits it is just incredibly convenient for those Nice Guys™ whose legal defence generally consists of “Bitches be cray-cray, amirite?”. Sad thing is, they get away with it precisely because of attitudes like Jill Scott’s.

      • GoodNamesAllTaken says:

        @Kiddo, I’m sure you are right that his defenders will say the women knowingly took the drugs, which I don’t believe, but even if they did, the fact that they were incapacitated makes it legally impossible for them to consent to sex. So his defenders won’t really have a point. But they will still try to say that, I’m sure.

      • Kiddo says:

        @GoodNamesAllTaken, Jill Scott admitted she was wrong. At least that’s one person. Playing devil’s advocate, I guess as a defense lawyer, you could say they took those drugs ahead for the aphrodisiac effects, as listed by Wiki above. YOU know I DO NOT BELIEVE THIS, as I have said before. Also, isn’t it unbelievable hubris that his attorneys argued this info would “EMBARRASS” him? EMBARRASS, really? Mr Cosby is EMBARRASSED that he raped people…mmkay.
        Let’s turn to Whoopie and see what she has to say.

      • Kitten says:

        I agree, Embertine.
        And I’m a HUGE Jill Scott fan, but I was incredibly disappointed in her.

        She played into the “Bill Cosby is being targeted because he’s a successful black man” narrative that was floating around. She blindly supported him instead of validating the 40 plus women who were trying to be heard.

        The thing is, she’s hardly the only one who felt disillusioned. A lot of people both black and white looked up to Cosby. Most of us didn’t want this to be true.

      • Izzy says:

        Considering some of these incidents took place much more recently, that argument will fall down quickly. It’ll be easy to push back at his (blind) defenders.

      • michelle says:

        @Kiddo- As the judge said when ruling the deposition was to be unsealed, “Why should Cosby be embarrassed by HIS OWN WORDS?”

      • belle de jour says:

        @embertine, kitten: I couldn’t agree more. And I can’t stomach Scott trying to hide behind ‘proof’ only provided via the rapist – and that she seems just as unwilling as Cosby to either truly examine herself, her real motives, or apologize without equivocation.

        Whether she likes it or not, she is exactly another part of the problem for those brave women who came forward, as well as for the ones who haven’t yet. I don’t buy any of her rationalizations – or her ‘race-alizations’ – either. She needs to ask herself some serious questions, and get real regarding what the answers say about her priorities.

      • Neonscream says:

        That’s exactly what they’ll say and it should be pointed out to them that even if a person DOES knowingly take an intoxicant (or even do something really slutty like fall asleep after a long day) if they are rendered unable to CONSENT, it’s still rape.

        Some of these women were so out of it as to be virtually or actually unconscious. It doesn’t matter if they willingly took drugs, willingly took way too many drugs. ITS STILL RAPE IF YOU DONT HAVE CONSENT. (Not shouting at posters here – just the voices of misogynist apologists worldwide)

      • doofus says:


        Here’s what Whoopi had to say…

        (hope the link is OK)

        still defending him. I guess she doesn’t realize, as so many have pointed out, that if the woman is intoxicated, whether willing or not, SHE IS NOT ABLE TO GIVE CONSENT.

    • Ellen says:

      His defenders will never stop reaching for ways to blame the victims but at least now they look (more) ridiculous. I still remember seeing some months back on another site someone who asked, “How do you rape Janice Dickinson?” Just disgusting.

      • michelle says:

        She is suing him now civilly isn’t she? I hope many, many more join in. Heck ALL of them.

  9. Kiki says:

    This is why I beleive the women. I think this is disturbing and just downright disgusting on His part. I can’t watch the bill Cosby show anymore. I AM HURT and I am so sorry for the women involved.

  10. Mia4S says:

    Sadly he will never see jail but given his clear narcissism I am glad he lived to see his reputation and legacy destroyed.

  11. Ellen says:

    What his victims have endured – the violation, the blaming (particularly Janice Dickinson) is unimaginable. Justice for them, please.

  12. Ellen says:

    Bedhead, please don’t take this the wrong way but no: Thank goodness for Andrea Constand. As Moskovitz at Deadspin wrote last year, without Constand none of this happens.

    • Crumpet says:

      Thanks for that.

    • Falula says:

      It’s a parallel of our world yet again that people know this story because a male comedian mentioned it rather than because a woman pursued charges and told her story.

      I don’t think the writers here would intentionally ignore her story, obviously, but it didn’t become mainstream gossip news again until hannibal brought it up.

      • Ellen says:

        @Falula, I know and I genuinely did not mean to sound bitchy. But without Andrea – none of this happens.

      • Pinky says:

        I don’t actually fully agree with this. The problem was also that Cosby was about to get a new show on NBC. There were grumblings around that and they were getting louder. Hannibal’s comedy routine about Cosby was not new. He’d been doing it for years, I think. The video that was posted of him calling out the Cos was almost a month old before it was posted somewhere, if I’m not mistaken.

        It was a confluence of events. Even had Constand not sued Cosby before, the Internet makes it such that people feel freer to state their experiences online anonymously, and the worst-kept secret about America’s Favorite Dad was bound to come out eventually. (Check out what Patton Oswalt said–he’s know about it for decades as well!

        I’d heard stories about Cosby in the early ’90s (and that’s why I was also well aware of the rape charges and outcome in the Temple case as they happened). And that’s why I also kept a close eye out for when, if ever in the last 2-3 decades Lisa Bonet was going to do a Cosby reunion or ever speak about her time on the show. But nope. And I was keenly aware of the “chatter” online about Cos after NBC’s decision to resurrect the dead. The stories have always been out there and now social media makes it possible for gossip to turn into investigations into fact.

  13. Kiki04 says:

    He’s a scumbag, and now hopefully everyone knows it.

  14. NGBoston says:

    Both Camille Cosby and Phylicia Rashad need to come out publicly and address all the victims they threw under the bus.

    Camille knew all along, and this woman needs some severe Mental Health Counseling, that somehow, she has turned a blind eye to all of this for years.

    More importantly, Bill Cosby should be making financial restitution to each and every one of his victims he has emotionally and physically abused and called liars after all these years—many of these women have suffered.

    Since the Statue of Limitation for any legal action has expired—I hope they all nail him in a huge civil suit and clean the man out of his millions,

    Every time I think of his smug face in those sweat pants and “Hello Friend” Sweatshirt, I want to vomit. Gross.

    • Kiddo says:

      Someone on Salon wrote “Hello Fiend“.

    • Amy Tennant says:

      Me too. I feel betrayed.

    • MinnFinn says:

      Camille’s denial reminds me of Dottie, the wife of Jerry Sandusky. Jerry befriended and groomed boys through his charitable foundation. He brought many of his victims home for sleepovers where he would rape them. Dottie is adamant that Jerry, who is now serving several consecutive life sentences, was not a pedophile and he never harmed any child.

      I suspect what partially motivates such women to remain loyal to their husbands is they don’t want to anything to disrupt their cushe lives.

      • belle de jour says:

        Exactly. I find Camille’s repeated denials one of the most disturbing and infuriating aspects of this entire mess. I do not believe that she was some purely befuddled & duped victim-wife-enabler for decades, nor do I believe her denial didn’t involve a considerable amount of ego and lifestyle-preservation.

        What really gets my goat is also, admittedly, about my ego as well: her sort of insidious ‘cover’ for him over the years makes me so apoplectic that I can’t drum up much compassion for her at all – which makes me mad with myself, to boot.

        I’d like to think the better focus can be kept for the victims vs. the perps & the apologists, and I hope there’s some way, somehow this development can help them in a positive manner. (But man, do I want their civil cases to get a lot of useful mileage out of this; would love to see the vast bulk of his earnings and activities be all tied up in litigation – and rapidly dissipating in settlements & judgements – for years.)

  15. lucy2 says:

    He’ll never face prison time, but I’m so glad all of this has truly come to light, and everything he built on lies is being destroyed. I hope his victims can take some small amount of comfort from that, and sue the crap out of him.
    I also hope at least some of his defenders will realize they were wrong.

  16. Crumpet says:

    This is what evil looks like. It masquerades as everything we think of as ‘good’. The proverbial wolf in sheep’s clothing.

    • Kiddo says:

      Yeah. Well that’s why it’s dangerous to believe that you (not YOU, in general) can spot a predator by appearance only.

      • Ellen says:

        +1 Kiddo and Crumpet.

      • I Choose Me says:

        So very true.

        Whenever there’s a report on someone who’s done sick, vile things there’s always a neighbor, acquaintance or family member stating their disbelief because he/she was so nice, polite, charming, friendly, charitable etc., amen.

        Evil wears many faces.

      • Kori says:

        Hannah Arendt wrote of this decades in The Banality of Evil. It was based on her interviews of convicted nazis. She was amazed at how normal they seemed–pleasant and well spoken–while perpetrating such evil.

      • belle de jour says:

        @Kori: Thank you for bringing up Arendt in this discussion; whenever I read opinions about recognizing ‘the *face* of evil’ I think of her work and impressions.

    • GoodNamesAllTaken says:

      So true, both.

    • Aren says:

      Absolutely. One of our teachers told us: Working in the prison system you don’t fear the person who yells, who threatens, who wants to punch you; you fear the charming one, the one who is friendly and claims to be a victim.

  17. Vampi says:

    Hey Cosby! You evil, lying predator. Your past is coming back to haunt you. GOOD! You are a filthy piece of slime that got away with raping women across decades. No matter what..your legacy will ALWAYS have these facts attached now. Perhaps that’s all the justice we will see…but again, GOOD! Think about that while you sleep at night Billy Bill…You make me sick.

  18. ashley says:

    So this is what it took jill scott to believe those women?! Sad,real sad. I had to delete all of her songs from my iPod,it was hard to do,but i had to do it. I can’t look at her the same way for believing cosby over the victims. I wonder what felicia and her sis has to say. This man has just ruined my childhood memories of the cosby show:(

    • Lady D says:

      I know how you feel, ashley. I so badly wanted to belong to the Cosby family as a kid. I feel completely betrayed and I feel like a fool. I can’t even imagine the staggering amount of pain and rage his victims feel. Especially the ones that even now aren’t coming forward. I hope there is a little bit of joy in their tears.

  19. Giddy says:

    I keep thinking about the way he handled his live shows after the most recent allegations were made. When hecklers yelled he played the role of the patient wise man, who was having to deal with crazy people. He counseled his audiences to ignore the hecklers, who were then moved by security. But the protesters were correct: he is a lying, conniving, corrupt, rapist. He tried to make the world see him as a victim of women who wanted his money or a connection to fame. Now his accusers are vindicated, his pattern of abuse is clear, and his legacy is ruined. Good.

  20. embertine says:

    This whole story makes me sick at heart. As a tiny kid, my granddad would play me vinyl of Cosby’s stand-up; I still have one of his records that I inherited. I’ve been a fan of Cosby since before I can remember. But I still believed the victims when they came forward, because in every case where this has been alleged, the abuse turned out not only to be true but actually so much WORSE than initially reported. And now we’re at, what, forty-something individual women?

    I absolutely understand not wanting it to be true, and I can imagine that as a black kid growing up in the 70s and 80s (I am 36 and white), seeing a successful entertainer who was black would have meant even more. But enough is enough.

  21. Christin says:

    He tried to argue he wasn’t a public figure? How convenient.

  22. Elfie says:

    I used to love the Cosby show as a kid. The real Bill Cosby is such a disappointment. I suppose we all have our weaknesses but his are just so jaw droppingly horrific, I can’t get my head around the fact that this man who was so publicly adamant about correct behaviour and taking responsibility was a serial drugger/rapist for decades. Given his position in society and the inspiration he was to many this is so sad.

    I feel terrible for his wife because he’s very charming and she’s been under his spell for 50+ years and had five children with him. There’s no way she’d ever be able to believe it, even if she knows she will still deny it to herself because this is a man she’s loved and adored for most of her life. It’s impossible to let go of that at her age and given their long history.

    • doofus says:

      “this man who was so publicly adamant about correct behaviour and taking responsibility”

      it’s almost ALWAYS the ones who are preaching morality that are the dirtiest of all. it’s the old “look over there!” strategy.

    • JenniferJustice says:

      Why would you feel sorry for his wife? She helped hide his true self and what he was doing. One of the victims said she was there until he drugged her (victim) and then when it started taking affect and she was passing out, sympathetic Mrs. Cosby left the room and CLOSED THE DOOR!! Are you kidding me? She is just as much a predator as he is. She willingly allowed him to victimize young women over and over so could continue to enjoy the highlife. Save your sympathy for the real victims – the ones who were drugged and raped. His wife is no more than another monster in fancy dresses she was unwilling to give up at the expense of young women being drugged and sexually assaulted. She was very much a part of it not only by remaining silent, but she HELPED HIM DO IT. She needs to rot in Hell just like him.

  23. Tara says:

    Let’s call him what he is: an evil serial rapist. It is sickening that he has been able to get away with hiding behind his image with his money and power for 50 years. His victims go all the way back to the 1960’s!

    This is also the same man who would not keep his mouth shut about the black community doing this and that. He was sitting on his high horse criticizing the black community for being negative all the while he’s a creepy serial rapist!

    Shame on all those people who wanted to be so quick to attack the women who were victims. Then you wonder why it took so long for them to speak out? There is this disturbing need some people feel to find fault or criticize the women who are sexual victims.

  24. AQ35 says:

    I never loved The Cosby Show.. for many reasons. But I love Good Times.. the early shows.. James was a great father.. and that was reminded me more of my Father.. just a working man

    this is very disappointing more than sad. Disappointing because Mr. Cosby build a legacy but it was built on lies and a something dishonest. So we never knew who Mr. Cosby was; and that being the case..

    • Christin says:

      I preferred Good Times over CS as well. Someone else commented on his choice of OB/GYN as his character’s profession, which seemed odd to me as well. Why not a pediatrician or other specialty?

      I watched Fat Albert many a Saturday morning, though. Just amazing how many times a wolf hides in sheep’s clothing.

  25. Michelle says:

    Sung to the tune of the 70’s Fat Albert cartoon theme song:

    Hey Hy Hey!
    It’s Bill Cosby
    And I’m gonna slip a drug to you
    And then I’ll show ya
    A thing or two…
    You’ll have somefun now
    With me and my pills
    Learningfrom each othr
    While I get my thrills….

  26. shi_gatsu says:

    I’m sick of him! He should be in jail!

  27. Vampi says:

    There’s an article at Deadspin that posts bits of the court transcripts with his sick admissions and twisted logic. Not to mention his slimy lawyers efforts to quash testimony…. Bye bye Puding Pop man.. You are a Pariah now…and anyone with any sense at all knows you were a bad, bad, BAD man! All the while you preached about black family values, and looked your nose down on folks. Have a slice of POUND CAKE Bill! Hahahahaha! He is NOTHING now…and knowing that he knows that, and he does…makes me feel GOOD! And Whoppi needs to say something. At least Jill Scoot admitted she was wrong, but I STILL side eye her for needing “proof”….gah!

    • doofus says:

      Whoopi HAS said something…she’s still defending him, that vile POS.

      (I linked up above.)

      • Vampi says:

        Ugh…I just saw that. I’m disgusted with her. What will it take for her? I’m just….I don’t…can’t…understand. Shame on her. *sigh*

  28. Original T.C. says:

    I do give Jill Scott credit for coming out and changing her mind because believe or not many older African American women that I know (not reflective of the entire community or the 30 and younger crowd who believed the women) are still defending him today. I thought when Beverly Johnson came forward they would change their tune but they called her a slut and druggie whose is unreliable. They questioned why these women didn’t go to the police then and now instead of suing Cosby for money. I brought up fear in the earlier times and statute of limitations now. The pushed aside the concept that Cosby had a lot of power saying “he’s a Black man, no amount of power can shield him from rape charges”. Then of course I couldn’t find any legal site with a consistent statement about the statute of limitations for rape. If anyone has a link please post it.

  29. JenniferJustice says:

    And there is his disgusting wife with that stupid f–ing smile again. I hate her as much as I hate him. I will never understand how a woman stands by a man who does this. No need to explain the co-dependency, denial, lifestyle, etc. None of those excuses even remotely justifies aiding and abetting that kind of monster and she did aid and abet by keeping her mouth shut when she knew exactly what he was doing. Nobody can convince me different. Women who stay with these men are fully aware of what’s going on. They just compartmentalize it.

  30. Thomas Bush says:

    It’s over. He signed his own death warrant. What’s he going to do now?

  31. Vampi says:

    watching “The Talk”. Bill be… done, done done done, DONE!
    *prayers for all the victims*

  32. cab224 says:

    Long-time lurker; first-time commenter. The great irony for The Cos is that the only reason the AP was able to seek the unsealing of this transcript is because he and his defense lawyer were such a$$holes during that deposition. Deposition transcripts are not public and normally are not filed in federal court, particularly where a case is settled. The only reason the AP was able to seek this transcript is because Cosby’s lawyer (Patrick J. O’Connor, a very well-known Philly attorney) acted outrageously, instructing Cosby not to answer perfectly allowable questions, giving his client obvious hints about how to answer in the guise of objections, and trying to bully the plaintiff’s lawyer, among other things. Cosby went along with it, to the point of changing his answers to questions when his lawyer signaled unhappiness with the original.

    Their shenanigans were so outrageous and egregious that the plaintiff’s lawyer filed a motion seeking to compel Cosby to sit for another deposition and for sanctions. Under court rules, in order to substantiate that motion, she had to attach a copy of the transcript. That landed the transcript in the court file, and is why the transcript was even available to be a subject of the AP’s motion to unseal. Had Cosby and his lawyer acted appropriately, the transcript would have remained private.

    I am a lawyer (in case that wasn’t obvious) and have taken lots of depositions where the witness’s lawyer tried these kinds of tactics. It’s infuriating and exhausting. The scuttlebutt is that it’s particularly awful where a younger woman is taking the dep and an older man is defending. That was the situation here, and it certainly comports with my own experiences. It is quite refreshing to see that tactic backfiring in a giant way.

    TL;DR: Karma’s a bitch.

    • cab224 says:

      P.S. I’m the younger woman, not the older man. Just to clear that up.

    • Vampi says:

      Welcome CAB!…and I totally agree! Not only that, but the judge cited Bill’s famous “Pound Cake” speech as to why Mr. Cosby was not a private individual subject to confidentiality, but a public speaker on morals and such…so it was deemed to be of benefit of the public for the records to be released. (paraphrasing here…and forgive typos) *smile*

    • Korra says:

      Ugh. Good. He deserves every bit of criticism and disgust thrown his way. Built his entire image on such a shaky foundation. I’ll never understand men like this.

    • Kiddo says:

      Thanks for sharing, cab, interesting perspective and knowledge.

  33. Donnie says:

    Don’t care. He’s STILL RIGHT about black american and it’s problems, about the need for blacks to take a look at themselves and their culture of baby mamas, gangs and ciminality. THAT’S what people need to focus on and what all of you here and on other libral sites are trying so hard to ignore.

    • Shelly says:

      Re Donnie:
      Just because he said some things that need looking at by the black community, Does not change the fact that he is a evil creepy serial rapist.
      I think both things can be focused on just fine.