Wendy Williams thinks Ariana Grande ‘will forever look 12,’ Ariana’s fans revolt


I know I’m probably going to get crap for this, but I kind of hate-respect Wendy Williams. Like, she’s brash, she’s a conspiracy theorist, she loves really dirty gossip and she’s rude as hell. I guess I can take her in small doses, but then again, I never watch her show other than a few clips here and there if she’s taking on some controversial gossip story. Like, I still think people should give props to Wendy for how she analyzed the Beyonce-Solange-Jay-Z story last year following the video of Solange attempting to give her brother-in-law a beatdown. Wendy’s analysis became what is generally regarded to be the most all-encompassing theory of “why” it happened.

So I guess I sort of hate-respect the fact that Wendy is taking on Ariana Grande and Grande’s cadre of super-fans. Wendy has had sh-t to say about Grande before, stuff about Grande’s relationship with Big Sean and stuff about the donut-shop fiasco from last month. What’s weird is that – as I go back and look at those older clips – Wendy spent a lot of time defending Ariana and humanizing her. But during a show late last week, Wendy threw some shade… sort of… on Ariana. I hesitate to call this “body shaming” because I’m not really sure?

Safe to say Wendy Williams has landed herself in hot water with a number of Ariana Grande’s fans. The 51-year-old talk show host found herself on the receiving end of rampant criticism after she made a few controversial comments about Ariana Grande and seemingly body-shamed the 22-year-old pop star on The Wendy Williams Show.

“She’s 21. She’ll forever look 12,” Williams said as the audience laughed. “And I don’t mean that in a good way. It’s nice to look younger than you are, but when you look too young and then you’re short—she’s only like 4’11”. I don’t look at her as, like, a woman.”

Her comments prompted the hashtag #CancelWendyWilliams to trend on Twitter on Thursday evening as fans of Grande banned together to try and get the show taken off air.

[From E! News]

Is this body-shaming though? It seems like it’s its own special thing, like YoungFace-shaming. And while Ariana can’t help the way she looks and she can’t help having a very young-looking face, it doesn’t feel like saying that out loud is “shaming.” Here’s the thing: Wendy’s not wrong. Since I do a lot of the writing about Ariana around here, I’m always looking through photos and editing photos of Ariana from casual settings, red carpets, her social media and stage performances. And let me tell you… she DOES look 12 years old. I always feel like I have to be careful about which photos to post because in some pics, she looks like a heavily-sexualized tween. We used to have a similar problem with Selena Gomez too, because she’s another baby-faced young woman and it feels gross to post photos of her with her business hanging out.

But it’s good to know that Ariana’s super-fans are losing their minds. Seriously, who chooses Angsty Baby over all the other divas these days?



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  1. Greata says:

    Not a fan of Wendy, but she is spot on about the bobble-headed smug troll, Ariana Grande. Anybody else see the irony of the troll having the name Grande?

    • BeBeA says:

      If I’m correct that’s an old clip, where Wendy was making a case why Ariana should get breast implants if she wants them. ( there was a rumor that she was getting them for her boyfriend at the time and to feel more like an adult woman.) Nothing wrong was said in my opinion. She basically said I get why she would want them, but let it be for your confidence, not a guys approval.

  2. lassie says:

    I feel like this is some kind of controversy drummed up by their 2 publicists to create positive buzz for both of them.

    Perhaps I’m a bit of a conspiracy theorist myself…

  3. Franca says:

    Of all he things you can shade Ariana for, this is not one of them. She can’t help how she looks like.

    • Izzy says:

      Disagree. Ariana Smugface doesn’t help matters by dressing like a 12 year old, and wearing stupid kitten ears or hair styles (see photos above). She also acts like a toddler, not a young woman. Combine that with a youthful face, and it’s easy to see how aduits don’t take her seriously – she practically demands not to be taken seriously.

      • Franca says:

        I think her outfits are very grown up. Toddlers don’t exactly wear bras and sky high heels. What makes her seem so young, other than her looks is how immature and juvenile she acts. Have you ever seen her talk?
        But Wendy didn’t say that. She just said she looks like a child, and she can’t help that.

      • doofus says:

        I agree with you, Izzy. look at what she’s wearing in those pics…the “ears”/hair, and a FREAKIN’ PAJAMA ONESIE.

        she is absolutely cultivating the “prostitot” look.

        “Toddlers don’t exactly wear bras and sky high heels.”

        true, but 22 year-old women shouldn’t wear PJ onesies. she wants to walk that fine line between sexy and jailbait.

      • Chichi says:

        Thanks Doofus 🙂 Ariana styles her hair like a hello kitty obsessed 10 year old and you should see footage of her posing on the red carpet. She goes into insta-puppy face, it makes her look younger and she knows it. She exploits it and shes gross for doing so.

      • Shambles says:

        Completely agree with Izzy, Doofus, and ChiChi. She used to wear school-girl skirts in concert, FFS. She can’t help what her face looks like, but she’s definitely capitalizing on how young she looks by purposefully going for the Lolita vibe. She can do whatever she wants, but her fans can’t get upset about this. It’s a creepy-ass marketing strategy.

      • Kitten says:

        Oh man..”prosti-tot”! Never heard that one before. I agree with Izzy, Shambles, Doofus et al.

      • Algernon says:

        yeah, look up “prostitot,” Ariana Grande is cultivating a very specific look. The cat ears, the pigtails, the baby doll clothes, the pajamas, it’s all calculated. Maybe she can’t help her face (debatable, as she seems to have had some plastic surgery), but the way she dresses and the persona she projects is all about the prostitot image.

      • Sarah says:

        Exactly. Kitten ears? Pigtails? Footie pajamas? She knows what she’s doing.

      • kimbers says:

        Cat ears? They’re kinda not cute anymore. Her stylist sucks and should be fired. Just bc someone has money doesnt make them have good taste or dress flattering…so fire the stylist!

  4. NewWester says:

    Ariana’s hairstyle in those photos looks like her hairdresser was on acid and confused ” Princess Leia’s” hairdo with “Mickey Mouse” ears

    • Lauren II says:

      Ariana ‘ s hairline looks like it’s receding-probably from her hair extensions.
      I don’t get why she is a big deal – she is nasty. Anorexic + unhealthy looking. Mmm.

    • Reeely?? says:

      Her styling can be dismissed, but not her -height – that’s where Wendy is wrong. That’s “petite shaming”.

  5. embertine says:

    She poses and markets herself like a creepy little doll, so I think in this case it’s valid. She could look older if she wanted to. I mean look at her, she’s wearing a fluffy pink onesie and has her hair in Mickey Mouse ears. Her audience is pre-teen girls so it does make sense.

    • Lucy2 says:


    • doofus says:

      agree, said almost the same thing above.

    • QQ says:

      THANKS !! This Embertine, Scott Braun & co are ACTIVELY banking on her petite look and dressing her like a lolita quinceañera cake on Purpose to get that teen/Nickelodeon/creepy men fanbase going ….since about last year started added “sexy Teen Poses” to the whole thing when it seemed like her Bitchy grown up that she is-antics were coming out left and right an uptick in Tooting the butt up in pics/videos ensued

  6. ldub says:

    they’re both annoying as hell.
    that’s all got.

  7. tx_ava says:

    she chooses to play up the fact that she looks so young, from the way she dresses to the way she sometimes puts on that baby voice. I don’t think Wendy was being rude or that she was really shaming, it just seems like she’s stating a fact, though I see how it could be taken as rude.

  8. SypherMomma says:

    I think her styling has a lot to do with it, all those high ponytails and school girl skirts.
    Her attitude is definitely that of a bratty 12 year old.

  9. Jane says:

    I have to somewhat agree with Wendy. Grande does look incredibly young. It also doesn’t help that she wears those cat ears and dresses like a sex-kitten. However, I think my greatest beef with this chick is I cannot understand a bloody thing she sings. She doesn’t enunciate to save her soul. Now before I get the beat-down on this…I have been in the educational field for 30 yeas with speech training. If I had a student with “talked” the way Grande sings, we’d have a lot of speech therapy to contend with over a couple years.

    • Izzy says:

      You’re not alone in this – I’ve heard people say it sounds like she sings with a mouth full of peanut butter. An apt description.

      • Jane says:

        I can seriously agree with this. However, in my school we would put a flat-heavy tongue label on her. I’d have to see her up close in order to determine if she pushes her tongue forward a couple centimeters. It could cause a form of intentional lisping.

        At the same time she doesn’t open up her mouth enough to form proper vowels and consonant blends. It’s almost as if she thinks her cheeks are going to break if she move too much.

        BTW: Sorry that I am a bit of a hypocrite here. Here I am ragging on her enunciation and my above post has more spelling errors than I would allow. WTF???!!! Sorry about that!!!!

    • MonicaQ says:

      All I ever hear is “Bweak Fwee” every time that song comes on.

    • Tate says:

      I can’t understand her either.

      • Evie says:

        Me either! She can’t enunciate and it’s so frustrating. I really like that song ‘the one who takes you home’, or whatever it’s called but cannot understand one other word she sings in the whole bloody song.

    • claire says:

      Ha! You’re not alone. I can’t understand her either. Seems to be the case with people that opt for showing off runs and belting – it’s less about the lyrics, the song and more look at me.

    • Shambles says:

      This thread makes me so happy. I was in choir forever and a day, and her lack of enunciation fkin KILLS ME. It’s so bad. And I’m so glad I’m not the only one who gets that nails-on-a-chalk-board feeling when she mumbles through all of her songs. Let’s get t-shirts.
      “I can’t understand what you’re singing, Donut-Spitter”

    • Otaku Fairy says:

      Yeah, she’s a good singer (not great, but good) but I don’t understand why she has trouble enunciating on some of her songs. There are singers both more talented and less talented than her who don’t have that problem.

  10. Shelley says:

    Haha Wendy. She is something. I respect the way she goes for everyone regardless of how popular/powerful you think you are. I started to like Wendy when she made fun of how Beyonce speaks like a 4th grader (so true).
    In this case it really wasn’t body shaming. I know it’s not Ariana’s fault she looks the way she does but she does play on looking like a sexualised 12 year old. She goes out of her way to dress sexy but with child-like elements to her outfits and behaviour. Selena is better because she tries the grown up sexy look.

    • Katydid20 says:

      I love that Wendy sometimes has no filter…..she just says what she thinks, and doesn’t pander to anyone.

    • Mintessence (the original Minty) says:

      Wendy sure does express how she feels and she often says things in a funny way. I usually get her point of view. Also, I appreciate that she’s honest about her own life: her boob job, her past drug addiction, all those wigs she wears…

      The thing is, Wendy will criticize celebs on her show, but then when they appear as guests on said show, she often turns into an asskisser. She even does this with reality show twits, who, of course show up to extend their 15 minutes.

    • MCraw says:

      Yes to everything

    • meme says:

      I love Wendy. She cracks me up and says what she thinks. Girlfriend don’t care. And Little Miss Grande does look 12 years old.

  11. masy says:

    She does look like 12 year old.

    • Nancy says:

      Hope Ariana isn’t offended because I like she, resembled a teen until I reached about the third decade. I suppose in this youth adoring society, this can only be a plus in her career. But fear not wee one, time stands still for no one and one day you’ll be shopping in the woman’s department like the rest of us.

  12. BNA FN says:

    A Grande looks much younger than 12 yo. I’ve seen 12 yo and cannot believe they are not 16-19 yo. Btw, Wendy is not a nice person she always brings up others fault but never mentioned her scandal with her husband having an affair with one of her staff or her former drug use, she’s an hypocrite.

    • Mintessence (the original Minty) says:

      I wasn’t aware of her husband’s cheating – where did you hear about it? I’m not surprised she’s never discussed it on her show because how could she try to act superior after admitting that?

      I used to watch her show regularly, mainly for the gossip she dishes at the beginning of each broadcast. She HAS talked about her long battle with cocaine. She’s often referenced it when she talks about other celebs with addiction problems.

  13. Nancy says:

    Oh how Wendy loves to expound on the appearance of others. Her reflection in the mirror would reflect an ex druggie resembling a tranny stuffed in an ill-fitted dress detailing her unfit body and the constant lick smacking, mouth watering woman who would grab your taco at a street fair. Other than that, she is a fair and balance “journalist.”

    • embertine says:

      “Tranny”, really? *sigh*

      • Nancy says:

        Oh come on, being PC is killing me here. I am not going after any sector of the society. But Lord, have you seen Wendy Williams. It’s too early to debate, but I come in peace. Shaming a young girl’s appearance is just as wrong as the mean spirited comment I made. Sorry.

      • CK says:

        Yes, yes you are, Nancy. At no point in history, has “Tranny” ever been complimentary. It has always been an insult and still using it is… *surprise*.. still insulting. It’s not PC to expect you to refer to people using…gasp.. words that aren’t insults, is it?

      • TrustMOnThis says:

        Actually “tranny” used to be no more of an insult than “drag queen” – it indicated someone who lived as a woman all the time as opposed to just dressing up for a night out. There was a very popular club in SF called Trannyshack which went on for many years. They only recently changed it because the connotation has come to be insulting in recent times.

    • Cynthia says:

      Exactly this, Nancy. This is body shaming. Fat people can’t help how they look either and its called shaming too, so yeah.
      Its very rich of Wendy to comment on anybody’s looks because look at her. She doesn’t look like a woman either. I doubt if she would be able to take it if we all tell her how we think she looks

      • Nancy says:

        I suppose it’s a question of her own self-loathing. She may have succeeded on the radio, but television is not her genre. The only way she gets any ink in the press is by making her outrageous comments mainly on the appearance of others. And by the way, wasn’t it Joey on Friends who coined the whole How You Doing thing. She can’t even bring originality to the table.

      • meme says:

        Fat people most certainly can help the way they look. Most fat people just eat too damn much.

    • Tifygodess24 says:

      @nancy Your comment is rude and unnecessary. So because she said Ariana looks like a 12 year old and SHE doesn’t think she looks like a woman ( which of all thing she could have said is tame ) so you decide it was appropriate to come back with an insult 10 times worse and a slur and that’s your way of debate? Yeah ok. Not to mention Ariana is pretty much the soul reason why she is perceived the way she is – she purposely acts and dresses like a young teen and her nasty childish attitude isn’t doing her any favors.

    • Otaku Fairy says:

      Your ‘tranny’ comment is definitely worse than Wendy’s comment about Ariana looking like a 12-year-old.

      People, we don’t need to use ‘trannies and prostitutes’ to get our point across when giving criticism.

      • Nancy says:

        I have once apologized for my crude and insensitive comment. I am not a fan of Wendy Williams as she seems to take delight in hurting people on a daily basis to the glee of her studio audience. By my stooping to her level, it makes me no better than she…..and I promise I get no delight by hurting anyone. Again, to those I offended by my 7:19 am comment, I am sorry.

      • AcidRock says:

        Wow, I always thought “tranny” was a slur for “transvestite”? I mean, I guess a slur in general isn’t very nice, but I thought it was more about someone’s unkempt/confusing looks (as someone who chooses to dress up as the opposite gender but doesn’t do a very good job, like with the dress and makeup but also a 5 o’clock shadow, not someone who identifies as the opposite gender). Huh, guess you learn something new every day.

  14. cynthia says:

    I wouldn’t take her account of Jay-Solo elevator beatdown if I were you (yes, it was just between jay and solange and had mostly nothing to do with beyonce) because according to this woman, she’s 100% sure Kim k is faking her pregnancy, kanye has about 3 sex tapes with other chicks that should have been releases if she were right despite the fact that she said she’s 200% suRe. There’s nothing to respect here. Wendy Williams goes after everybody yet there’s this log in her eyes she constantly ignores (her husband continuously cheating on her with every thing in sight including her crew members). Called blue ivy ugly several times and she’s incredibly racist even for a black person. And yes her show needs to be canceled but not because she insulted Ariana Grande
    Meanwhile, isn’t it crazy that mainstream news sites are running this story cos this time the victim is a “precious white girl” ?

    • AcidRock says:

      Not everyone who spouts unpopular (according to you) opinions needs to wear a muzzle so as not to offend those around them. You don’t like her conspiracies or comments about the celebrity sphere, there’s a button on your remote that enables you to turn the channel.

  15. GoodNamesAllTaken says:

    I don’t think that remark was necessary. Ariana is a twit, but she can’t help it if she’s short. She does look 12, but when you’re Wendy’s age, many 22 year olds look 12. She doesn’t think of her as a woman. Hmm. Not very nice.

    • Mimz says:

      I totally agree GNAT, I know Ariana maybe capitalizes on her look but I happen to think she tries to dress more her age, but when she tried wearing what everyone else her age was wearing she looked like she was playing dress up.
      YES it is shaming, yes it is insulting for Wendy to say that she will never look like an adult, this is probably something that torments her (Ariana), and saying this is not helping. I hope she finds a way to dress appropriately, much like Selena did, and is comfortable with her body type and looks (which seem to be a big issue with her, starting with the MASSIVE hair piece and all that)…

      i know people are super apologetic of Wendy because SOMETIMES she has a point, but this is the same woman who was trash-talking and shaming Whitney one week, and the next she was crying her eyes out when Whitney died, saying she loved her so much and she was SO sad. I can’t take this woman seriously.

      • Otaku Fairy says:

        “I happen to think she tries to dress more her age, but when she tried wearing what everyone else her age was wearing she looked like she was playing dress up.”

        I kind of agree with you. I think that on top of going for a light sexy anime girl + pop princess image, it seems like Ariana more often seems to try hard to look sexy and grown up. This animal costume would be an exception to that, but this is far from the lingerie-type outfits, make-up, lace, laytex, pleather, and sexy shoes she wears most of the time.

  16. LAK says:

    Wendy says a lot of things about celebrities with superfans, but it’s funny that someone as harmless as Ariana Grande has fans motivated enough to attempt to cancel the show. I’m surprised the beehive hasn’t tried that yet.

  17. Norman Bates' Mother says:

    I have a baby-face and it hurts to be called out on that and it hurts to read all those negative comments. Ariana Grande is a rich, spoiled diva – she won’t care, but all the regular people, who have a similar problem and read it – will. The overweight people take the fat jokes personally and thin people take the skinny jokes personally, because if you insult a person for having a certain body-type, you automatically insult all people with similar body-type and it feels the same with a baby-face. I’m 26, people disrespect me constantly thinking I’m 16 at best, call me kid, child, honey. I didn’t get the job I was qualified for looking too young (more than once), I’m single because no one my age will date me – they think I’m a minor or are afraid other people will think they date a minor, and when someone even a little older tries to ask me out I’m immediately afraid they are creeps. The list goes on and on. And when I read stuff like that, I only feel worse about it, because there’s nothing I can do. I can try to cheer myself up that at least I’m not short, and I have an adult body, but it doesn’t matter. I won’t go out with a bag over my head. So yes – from my perspective it’s shaming.

    • Franca says:

      I’ve been looking 30 since I was 13, so I know how you feel.

      However, no way in hell can you equate this with the way society treats fat people. And why do fat people need to be dragged in every conversation about shaming ever?

      • Ronda says:

        because its the most common shaming i guess. we can play olympics and look how gets the worse deal or we could do something else and listen and work together. all this “i have it worse” does not lead to anything.

        If you have disadvantages in your love life and your professional life because of how you look its comparable to being fat.

      • Franca says:

        We could and should all work together, but that still doesn’t mean we all have it equally hard.

        If Ariana Grande had the best voice out there, was the nicest person on the planet, but she was overweight, she wouldn’t have a career.

      • Norman Bates' Mother says:

        Nowhere did I equate the levels of bad treatment – I heard all the fat jokes in the book when I was a child, and then in my early 20’s I was called skeleton, anorexic, sickly looking every single day (I have a condition which used to make my weight yo-yo all over the place), so I should know all of this. I won a genetic jackpot like that. Kaiser wrote about body-shaming in the article – so I mentioned the fat/skinny jokes in relation to that and added that people with baby-face take this kinds of comments personally as well and that makes it feel like shaming. Not that the comments are as frequent – only that they also feel personal. But accuse me of all you want. I should know better than to share my personal problems like that.

      • Franca says:

        I’m sorry I overreacted, I’m sure you had it hard.
        It just bugs me that every time someone mentions shaming of any kind, someone will say “just as you can’t fat shame”. And tends to sound like everyone has it equally bad, but just those fat people complain all the time.

    • Ronda says:

      Thanks for sharing, it will give people a better perspective. Ariana certainly overdoes with her kiddy styling but other than that its a real problem. it is not ok to make someone feel bad about themselves based on how they look like and you have some direct consequences of that, in your personal and professional life.

    • We Are All Made of Stars says:

      Wow dude that’s really rough! I feel like you could go to a Sephora or an image consultant or something and they could show you how to look older. Contouring, darker hair, older clothing choices, a heavier brow….. there have to be things that you could do. Just think of all the things that ppl accidentally do that them look older!

      • Norman Bates' Mother says:

        I’ve tried many things – I never leave the house without make-up, I love comfy clothes but I wear dresses, skirts and blouses just to look older but it doesn’t work. Other women wear certain clothes and look like old aunts, I wear the same exact clothes and look like a teenage hipster. I know I’m being dramatic about it and other people have it worse,, but I’m sad about those lost job opportunities (plus in my home-country every job application has to include an official picture from your ID or other document, so I feel like it’s happening more times than I’m aware of), being permanently single and at the same time – constantly being asked out by super young boys. I was never popular, when I was an actual teenager – bad acne, weight-problems, so I was always single back then, and now I’m always single, because I’m popular, but only with teenage boys.

    • Kiki says:

      @NoramBatesmother. I too agree, I am 32 years old and I get dates now because I look a little more mitre for my age, but not 32 more like 18/19 years, old. I look at these older men as pervets but these men are my age or close to 40, and that is the correct age for me. But still no self respect men with class and dignified manner is not going to date me because of the way Of my baby face looks. Which is sad for me. I do however love my baby face but at least I make myself a little to y age as possible, that even though I am 32 at least my mental maturity will be saying 26/27. But somehow I still look like an 18 year old, never though I feel like21.

      With that being said, it is kinda shaming a bit, but I still do feel like 21, when I want to.

      • Ronda says:

        “But still no self respect men with class and dignified manner is not going to date me because of the way Of my baby face looks. Which is sad for me.”

        im sorry but in that context i dont understand the sentence. are those men not going to date you because of how you look? shouldnt a man with class look over it when he gets to know you better?

      • morc says:

        Her point is she looks young and the men who are into that are predators basically.

    • GoodNamesAllTaken says:

      I agree that it was unnecessary and mean. She doesn’t think of Ariana as a woman because she’s short and has a young looking face? Why criticize her for things she can’t help? I’m sorry you had to go through all of that and then here this drivel.

      • Kiki says:

        Thanks, even if it is not my post, but thanks anyway.

      • Isa says:

        I don’t think that a man wanting to date a woman that looks young is necessarily a creep. If a man consistently looks for that type of woman, yes, he’s probably a creep. But maybe he just likes you for you.

      • Norman Bates' Mother says:

        Thank you GNAT. I’m trying to be less sensitive, believe in myself, but when I read things like this it just feels like step-back and a confirmation that I should be insecure.

    • jwoolman says:

      My mother and I had the same problem. We always looked much younger than our years in our twenties and thirties especially and really also after that. I found out how badly some staff treated the college students when they didn’t recognize me as faculty and gave me the same treatment. Stores likewise. I had trouble explaining to security why I was in the department at 11pm preparing lab demonstrations for the next day, and I’m sure my male colleagues with beards did not have the same problem. My students assumed I was barely a college graduate, even though I put in increasingly larger print on the first day handouts that I was DR. xxxxx (we didn’t use titles at that school). It was really aggravating and did have an impact on how I was perceived and respected (or more precisely, not respected). Students had enough trouble accepting women as scientists in my field, but I would have have a better chance if I looked older. Maybe they should sell wrinkle stickers… I know people think it must be great looking so young naturally, but it actually is an obstacle.

      The pastor at the church in our new neighborhood was always glaring at my mom when she had my older brother with her (he was about six). Turned out the guy assumed she was one of those (oh, the horror!) “teenage mothers”. Mom was over 30 by then, she hadn’t married until she was 26 and my brother was born a year later.

      Well, I suppose we are in the category of secret shoppers. We can find out how young people are really treated and report back. And we could get jobs as undercover cops in high school. 🙂

  18. lamamu says:

    Ariana Grande can’t help her genetics, but she can help her styling. She’s a grown woman who styles herself to look like a highly sexualized 12 year old. That’s on her. It’s calculated and it’s gross.

  19. BNA FN says:

    Btw, Wendy fell off the stage in Los Vegas last week, let’s see if she mentions it on her show. I would be shocked if she did. Also, after Angelina had her last operation she mentioned it and said something so rude and vile I will not repeat it here. She is really a vicious person.

  20. Naddie says:

    I don’t think it fits in the “shame” category, but if I was Ariana, I’d be angry. It’s not shaming but it’s offensive anyway.

  21. MonicaQ says:

    Well if she didn’t dress like Lolita Bratz doll then maybe it wouldn’t be so creepy. but that’s what she is going food.

  22. We Are All Made of Stars says:

    I can also never decide whether or not Iike Wendy. I was repulsed by the fact that she admitted to using her pregnancy as an excuse to gain 100 pounds and her daughter has a medical condition because of it. She will also defend any stupid white woman from Ariana to Iggy to Rachel Dolezal and her fave excuse is ”there are just so many jelli haters out there that would really like to be this cute, rich, young, successful girl, so everyone needs to shut up n stop judging all the problematic behavior.” But then three days later she turns around and says something nasty. She’s two-faced and flighty, methinks.

    • Mintessence (the original Minty) says:

      What daughter? Wendy only has a son. She was lucky because she had fertility issues and 3 miscarriages before he was conceived.

    • MonicaQ says:

      Yeeeeah, she doesn’t have a daughter from the looks of it.

    • Tifygodess24 says:

      She has a son, who as far as I know doesn’t have a medical condition because she got too fat- (seriously? Lol) so not sure where you are getting this info from but it’s Incorrect. Also it took years and a few miscarriages to have her child and spent most of her pregnancy in bed because she was high risk.

  23. Ronda says:

    I guess its to give Ariana some sympathy which she needs after she showed her real colors.

    Its still not ok to say something like that. it is bodyshaming. she cant help it. Yes she looks like a kid, same as Emma Watson or Selena Gomez but what should those women do? Date 15 year old boys? still play with dolls when they are 42? Never be seen as a woman?

    How is it ever ok to call someone “not a woman” in public? What if she called Caitlyn Jenner that? Is Ariana less of a woman? Is a 5’6 guy not a man?

    • Franca says:

      I think Emma Watson looks older than she is. Selena looked really young for a while, but she looks her age now.

      • Ronda says:

        really? Emma is 25 i dont think she looks older and from what i read most people think she looks younger ( her role in HP could be partly to blame, too)

  24. Talie says:

    I live for Hot Topics!

    • Regina Phelange says:

      Wendy is my guilty pleasure. Arianna does look 12. Another day, another ridiculous internet outrage.

  25. platypus says:

    Sorry, but the only thing that is offensive here is her actively trying to look like a 13 year old prostitute. She plays up her youthfulness and combines it with porn’y outfits, like when when she struts around on stage wearing cat ears and see-through lingerie. This is the image she’s chosen to promote herself with, she actually used to look more mature before she reached this level of fame. She chose to get rid of her curves and portray herself like a sexualized child, if she wanted to change how she is perceived, she could.

    • Lexie says:

      No, the most offensive thing here is the phrase “banned together.” I miss editors.

      • jwoolman says:

        Lexie – I noticed the “banned together”, too, and immediately got the image of all the young teens banning Wendy all together… But it’s the kind of mistake that would never be caught by a computer spell check, so people without the spellcheck gene might not pick it up.

        Possibly the writer thought the phrase was “banned together”, that can happen when someone knows a word as spoken but hasn’t seen it in print. I wonder sometimes if the problem comes from dictation, mistyped by the computer software. “Banned together” and “banded together” sound enough alike (present tense “band together” would sound.almost identical) but would be an odd typo to make if typing directly (although my phone’s autocorrect could do that). Dictation software was the precursor of phone autocorrect in coming up with baffling substitutions. Long ago, I was using dictation software that decided my cough was spelled “Kiev”. It was very consistent.

    • Daria Morgendorffer says:

      @platypus, good point. Ariana looked older and more mature before her singing career launched. I agree that her weight loss has contributed to her looking much younger. I’ve seen pictures of her when she had a bit more weight on and had red hair and I would’ve believed she was 21 or 22 back then, but she looks much younger now.

  26. Daria Morgendorffer says:

    On one hand, I understand why these comments are offensive. One would figure that Wendy, a woman who has regularly been accused of actually being a man, wouldn’t go after another woman for not being womanly enough….but then I see pictures of Ariana intentionally looking like a toddler and I have to agree that it’s hard to take her seriously as an adult, not just as a woman.

    There is a plethora of pictures of her being carried around like a damsel in distress by her bodyguards, she wears kitten ears when she performs on stage (why?!), and here she is in pictures up above wearing a pink onesie and her hair in little mini buns. She plays up the childish thing and maybe that’s what Wendy meant, that as long as Ariana insists on dressing like an overgrown baby, no one is going to take her very seriously as an adult.

    • GoodNamesAllTaken says:

      But that’s not what Wendy said. If she said what you said, I’d agree with you both. But she made fun of the fact that Ariana is short – which is hardly her fault, and that her face looks young. If she meant what you said, she certainly didn’t articulate it as well as you did.

      • FingerBinger says:

        Wendy makes fun of herself for being tall and big. Something she can’t help. She made fun of Ariana’s height ,big deal.

      • Daria Morgendorffer says:

        @GoodNamesAllTaken, you’re absolutely right, point noted. I don’t personally like Wendy, I find her to be a lot harsher than necessary. More often than not, she just comes off as hateful.

      • GoodNamesAllTaken says:

        FingerBinger, I am on your last nerve today, I can see that. Did I do something to upset you? I hope not.

  27. My Two Cents says:

    The industry promotes all these talentless people to appeal to a segment of society so they can get fans $. Very few have the real talent it takes to sustain a career so they jump in and get what they can while they can. It’s obscene how they do it. While I think Wendy Williams is obnoxious, I think we are bordering on losing freedom of speech with all this politically correct stuff.

    • GoodNamesAllTaken says:

      Ugh, I’m so tired of this argument. I don’t understand how this falls into the “politically correct” category. Was being rude and mean ever ok? No one is threatening anyone’s freedom of speech. You can say all the mean things you want without being arrested for it. But people have a right to notice and comment if what you say is controversial. Freedom of speech doesn’t protect you from consequences of your speech. Never has, never will.

    • MonicaQ says:

      *sigh, same teacher voice I use with my 10th graders*

      The First Amendment of the United States Constitution only protects Freedom of Speech of criticizing the United States government. Not Freedom of Speech of Calling Someone A Twat. You could and can always do that and inso someone can call you anything back minus Hate Speech which this does not qualify as.

      Freedom of Speech != Freedom of Criticism.

  28. kri says:

    Omg, Arianna and her nutter fans frighten me. But the fact that she is very petite is not the problem. It’s that she sells that Baby Hooker look. It’s gross. Also, she seems to be horrible to work for/be around, and after what she did in Donutgate, I completely eschew her as a person, not just as Underage Barbie, but as herself. And don’t even get me started on her shrieking, clanking brother. That family is a disaster.

  29. Cs says:

    Hm, I guess I can see why people might think this is offensive, but as someone who’s in her twenties and is constantly being told I look like I’m 16 (and you KNOW they’re being polite and not saying 14), I don’t really feel the offense. Ariana Grande DOES look (and act) like she’s trying to alternately attract a tween audience and old lechers who can legally indulge in underage fantasies. People like Kirsten Bell could tie up her hair in ponytails dress up like Grande to appeal to the same crowd, but she obviously doesn’t and no one would think of accusing her of looking like she’s 12. Honestly, if she looks like one and acts like one, I don’t see the problem with people calling her out… But then again I’ve never followed the commenter, so I’m viewing this as a standalone comment.

  30. M.A.F. says:

    Grande is a 22 year young woman pretending to be a teen who’s pretending to be a grown up. She will never be able to do anything about how young her face is but she can have a more grown up attitude and appearance.

    • Otaku Fairy says:

      Yeah, her brattiness isn’t helping her come across as an adult. Same with Bieber- looks younger than he is and acts younger than he is. Sometimes I forget he’s 20 years old.

  31. serena says:

    I don’t like Ariana Grande, but this IS bodyshaming. It’s not her fault she’s really short and petite, and nobody should call her out for that. Shame on Wendy!

  32. justagirl says:

    Yes, she CAN help the way she looks. If you look at older “before” pics….back when she was younger, heavier, hadn’t had facial surgery….THAT version of Ariana actually looked older than she does now.

    She made significant alterations to her “look” and then with her makeup/clothes/accessories plus voice & posturing she constantly plays up the baby/Lolita/jailbait UGH factor. That is her thing. Why anyone would want to play that up is just a bit icky.

  33. Chelly says:

    This is pretty ridiculous. I just turned 34 & I constantly get carded. When people see my birthdate they do double takes and even ask me to confirm. As a matter of fact, when I picked my stepson up from school for his dentist appt, a student there asked if I was new there & needed help finding a class. She actually thought i was a hs student! I chuckle at it. I dont intentionally TRY to look younger, i just naturally do, and im ok with that. But these tweens that are flooding Wendy’s twitter and IG are so out of control and disrespectful, i cant even handle it

  34. Skins says:

    Considering the way Wendy looks in that picture, she shouldn’t be badmouthing the way somebody else looks

  35. funcakes says:

    Wendy should never judge other people’s lives since her own is very interesting.


  36. word says:

    Ok it’s not Ariana’s fault she looks young and is short. Come on. Looking younger is way better than looking older !

  37. FingerBinger says:

    This is so silly. Wendy Williams wasn’t body shaming Ariana. It was a throwaway comment not meant to be taken seriously.

  38. Ctkat1 says:

    Agree with most posters that she can’t help the way she looks, but she leans heavily into the “sexy baby” look in a way that seems really creepy.
    On a side note, did anyone read that Hollywood Reporter article about celebrities whose Q scores have fallen the farthest in the last 2 years (Q scores measure awareness and likability by the public)? Ariana is second after Bill Cosby- ha! Guess people finally caught on that she’s an entitled little brat.

    • Otaku Fairy says:

      “Ariana is second after Bill Cosby- ha! Guess people finally caught on that she’s an entitled little brat.”

      I agree that she’s an entitled brat, but people being so butthurt over her America-hating comment (On youtube and other sites she got WAAAY more pissed off comments about what she said than the actual wrong thing she did, the donut-licking, which is silly.) is what has her second to someone who raped several women, and in one of the comments sections about those Q scores someone was like “She should have been number 1!”

      I hope Donald Trump was on that list, and if so, I would have put him at number 2.

  39. Otaku Fairy says:

    Some of the same clothing choices that Ariana makes don’t seem to get called out as ‘trying to look like a child’ when other celebrities wear them, (Taylor Swift’s cat ears, the same high ponytail that Katy Perry, J-Lo, and Christina Aguilera have worn during different times in their careers, the same bustiers, hotpants, thigh highs, minis, and corset dresses that several pop stars have been photographed in). So I do think her looking young partially influences the way people are feeling about what she wears. It seems like she tries to go for a pop princess + sexy real life anime girl look. The cat ears combined with the lingerie are a dead-give-away to the whole neko/sexy cat/animal woman trend popular in anime, and on a poster for a foreign release of her greatest hits album, the design was of her as an anime girl with cat ears. Which is not the same as wanting to look like a child, (because how many children run around in red lipstick, black laytex bralettes, and body-suits) but I have to say she does look childish in that animal costume up there. Just not in a sexualized way.

    She and Selena do both look younger than they are- although I’d say Ariana looks 15 or 16, not 12, and Selena also looks 17. Sometimes even I forget that these two are my age. To me both of them seem to try to compensate for their childlike looks with sexier clothes and make-up, but Selena does it in a more sophisticated way. Wendy’s comment may have been a little rude, but I think Ariana’s crazy fans (I’m a fan of her music, but I’m not one of the loonies, I swear! 🙂 ) are overreacting to it by insulting Wendy and calling for her job. I don’t think she was really going out of her way to be mean, I think she was just giving her honest opinion.

    Imagine if Kylie Jenner and Ariana Grande swapped looks. Ariana would look her age, and Kylie would look hers. That would be kind of funny.

  40. Elisha says:

    Um, yea, Ariana *can* help how she looks and it IS her fault she looks 12 because she’s already had a ruh-DIC-ulous amount of plastic surgery. I suppose that makes what Wendy’s saying true and fair game, since Ariana chose to look like a 12 year old on purpose.

  41. Deniz says:

    Wow that is so rude! Unbelievable! I get that all the time since I look extremely young for my age, since I’m petite and only 5’1. It’s very insulting. I deal with it on a daily basis because people automatically don’t think I’m the manager since I “look too young.” It’s a daily struggle in my life to be taken seriously. Anyway, I hope she realizes what she said is hurtful and apologizes.

    • JT says:

      Agreed. People need to get their head out of their asses. Wendy wasn’t talking about how she dresses, she was talking about her body.” I don’t look at her as, like, a woman.” Just because she doesn’t have giant fake tits does not mean she is not a woman. There is no one body type or look that qualifies you as being a woman.

  42. morc says:

    She looks old because of all the makeup. It’s weird.
    She looks like a 12 year old version of that woman on “Revenge” (Madeleine Stowe?)

  43. HK9 says:

    If you’re a big popstar and this is the worst thing someone has to say, you know what, life is beyond good for you. Call off the rabid fans and get on with it. There are people in the world with real problems mkay?

  44. Grant says:

    How is this NOT body shaming? There are plenty of people who look anorexic and probably are anorexic, but that doesn’t mean it’s ok to publicly shame them. And saying that she doesn’t view AG as a woman because of how she looks? So rude!

  45. Isa says:

    She looked like a normal teen on the Sam and cat show.
    I don’t think it’s her face that looks young. It’s thin, not round like Selena’s. I think her problem is her derpy expression and the fact that her head looks out of proportion to her body.
    I was going to say that even short people age, but then I remembered she is a celebrity and Is no stranger to plastic surgery.

  46. kimbers says:

    She has a child body and it is weird watching her try to be sexy, but if she likes it then oh well. People cant help it if they dont grow, but I do have the same opinion as Wendy. She is kinda like kelly ripa-child body/beautful woman such a weird combo…

  47. Chris says:

    Um- Ariana’s fans are a bit late. Wendy’s show is on summer break, so they got mad watching a wendy rerun.