Elizabeth Olsen denies dating Tom Hiddleston: um, do you believe her?

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I don’t mean to set off a Dragonfly War, but it’s really cracking me up to see Tom Hiddleston’s fans in such denial about his relationship with Elizabeth Olsen. They really are together, people. They’re happily posing together all over the place at TIFF, which seems more like they’re coming out as a couple than anything else. They’ve been photographed in London several times in the previous months, and it’s pretty obvious. They’re together. I’m including a glut of photos of Hiddles and Olsen over the weekend, separately and together. Tom came out for the industry parties the night after he premiered I Saw the Light, and Olsen came out for that too (and they posed together on the carpet). He went to the InStyle party, where he spent time with Olsen and Eddie Redmayne. He also spent time at the Entertainment Weekly party and caught up with Chiwetel Ejiofor, Jessica Chastain, Emily Blunt and Brie Larson.

Hilariously, now Olsen is trying to deny that they’re a couple. O RLY? This happened during her Refinery 29 interview:

R29: There have been a lot of links between you and Tom Hiddleston, about you two dating. I don’t know if that’s something you confirm, but how do you feel —
Olsen: “I mean, we definitely are friends and we’ve known each other for about four years. And we happened to be at a restaurant at a wrong time having dinner. We all go out to dinner.”

How do you react when you see that in the press?
“Well, apparently, I’m dating Chris Evans, and apparently, I’ve dated Jeremy Renner, so I guess that… I don’t react to it.”

So you’re not dating Tom?
“No. I mean people can think what they want to think.”

[From Refinery29]

Yesterday, I complimented Tom and Elizabeth for not playing the “too cute by half” thing with their relationship. I take it back. She’s annoying me. They are dating, and if she didn’t want to confirm it, she could have just said “no comment.” It’s really not that big of a deal (except for the Dragonfly Implosion).

As for ISTL… my God, the reviews are getting worse. HitFix called it “such a disappointment” and “shockingly bad.” Most of the criticism seems focused on the script and direction, not so much Tom’s performance. The NYT even said that “though Mr. Hiddleston shone as Williams, the film left the audience palpably puzzled, and reporters disappointed. The general consensus: the performance far bested the film.” Tom told reporters that Hank Williams’ life “seemed very far away” from the way Tom had grown up but “he’s who I might have been if I had Hank’s life.” Wait, what?

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  1. CidySmiley says:

    You know, they probably aren’t dating. I have a feeling that The Dragonfly is a but of a player, and that’s what we’ve seen. No doubt in my mind they’ve bumped ugliest though.

    • Kitty says:

      There are pics of Lizzy hand-in-hand with the film’s director
      What’s wrong with the Olsen girls?? They’re all dating middle aged guys now

      • snowflake says:

        I can understand them dating older guys. They’ve been working since they were kids so theyre used to bei ng around older people. Guys their age are probably either intimidated by their wealth and fame or they’re immature. Older guys are probably more on their level, Financially, mentally, and cultured.

  2. Absolutely says:

    So because they’re posing for pics to promote a movie they’re the leads in, that definitely means they’re together? So I guess he’s been dating everyone he’s ever posed on the red carpet with…?
    I think they’re just milking a friendship for publicity and doing the coy “we”re just friends, people can think what they want” to keep up the talk. As I predicted the other day.

    • Ronda says:

      they were just promoting a movie, they were photographed arm and arm in Oxford and going on dates.

      she just wants to put it together with other rumours to make it seem silly.

      • Lilacflowers says:

        The arm and arm picture was taken in London, not Oxford. The Daily Mail combined two rumors and incorrectly put the picture as Oxford in May when it was July in London.

      • philae says:

        Actually, it wasn’t even an arm and arm, he simply had his arm on her shoulder.

      • Catherine says:

        The pic discussion again….the pic I saw his arm was around her and hers was around his waist under his jacket (unless her arm is severed at the elbow)

      • philae says:

        I don’t know about again Catherine, I have busy life, I can’t spend all my time reading all the posts and all the gossip site like you do.
        The photo I saw 2 months ago is this one
        http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/07/21/12/2AB7C80D00000578-3169389-image-m-94_1437477719962.jpg

        and to me her right hand is in her pocket. It certainly isn’t around his waist.
        Goodness what a bore has become posting here.

      • NUTBALLS says:

        The picture was reportedly taken outside of Tom’s local coffeehouse and her arm was around his waist under the jacket. It was definitely posed for someone to capture with a camera. Tom is so hyper-aware of his image when he’s in public, he’d never do something like that unless he wanted people to generate some media attention.

      • Catherine says:

        Philae, neither do I but I was getting fed up of the fans denial when that pic appeared and I looked that blurry pic again closely and the rest of her arm is missing which means it’s under his jacket – obvious to alot who saw it that they were more than friends.

        I’ll just get back to my boring day job now shall I? I’m sorry for correcting you but there’s no need to insult me.

      • Catherine says:

        NB, I doubt it was posed bc then you’d see their faces. It was taken by 1 of the cafe stalkers to prove their sightings to a certain tumblr blog who then posted it.

        Edit: a poster below thinks the pic was photoshopped. I just give up.

      • NUTBALLS says:

        philea, her right hand is not in her pocket, it’s around his waist and you can see the bulge under his jacket. What you see as her sleeve is actually the corner of his jacket.

        There are way too many “coincidences” here to assume two co-workers were out and innocently papped. From the onset chemistry reported to her broken engagement after filming to the rumors of them hooking up timed just after AoU promotion ended and she starting filming Cap3 to the July photos. They waited to address this after they say how it played out in the media and more importantly, how ISTL was going to fare at TIFF.

        Believe what you want, but as they say, nothing in Hollywood is coincidence. They both need to raise their profiles to become A-listers (she especially as she’s losing out on good parts) and this is a common way to generate it.

      • Kitty says:

        It’s hard to tell with that daily mail picture, she could either have her hand in his pocket or be in the process of moving her arm around his waist when the photo was taken.

        She could be his friend but then again how many male friends do you know who do that if they’re not gay or fooling around playfully when drunk?

        And the photo came out of nowhere too on two blogs which are known to be stalkerish and flippant

      • DT says:

        @Nutballs I agree completely with everything you say on these two and whatever their “relationship” is or was….. but her arm is not around his waist under his jacket her arm is pointing down almost to the point that her hand would be near his arse, you can see the difference in the colour of her coat sleeve compared with his black jacket, her elbow is what is by his waist, i’m not saying she wasn’t in the process of putting her arm around him but it definately wasn’t in this pic.

      • Lilacflowers says:

        Stand in front of a full length mirror with your back to the mirror, looking over your shoulder at your reflection. Hold your right foreaarm out as if you were reaching across a man’s back – a taller man’s back. Do it in such a way that your arm would be comfortable and not cramp. Look at the position of your elbow. Now look at the position of her elbow. Now, bring your forearm in front of you and grab hold of what would be the strap of your shoulder bag near your chest. Look over your shoulder and note that from behind, your forearm is not visible and your arm truncates at the elbow. Now, look at the picture again .

      • DT says:

        Unless there is a hole in the back of his jacket I dont see how her hand could be under it?? You can see the material between them, although @lilacflowers I think I was wrong about her arm pointing down because the holding the bag strap does actually look more plausible, I really can’t see how it would be underneath at all, surely that would move the front left side of his coat back and it’s pulled forward. Im not by any means denying they were a couple I just dont see the under the coat thing. Wow I have waaaayy too much time on my hands 😳

      • madly says:

        What difference does it make where her arm is?

      • philae says:

        @lilacflowers I admire your patience.

      • Lilacflowers says:

        @Madly, since I walk with my arms around people with whom I have no romantic or sexual connection at all frequently, I don’t see it making any difference, especially as he is known to hug everyone and everything. But some seem to think it indicates something monumental. Why, I don’t know

      • Catherine says:

        It makes a difference bc shes reciprocating and it’s more intimate. I know if I was intimate with a guy I’d hold his hand, get physically close to him, incl putting my arm around him under his coat. Personally I wouldn’t do that with a friend, but as Lilac says it’s different for other people.

        One last thing on this pic bc honestly I’ve given up with this now: there were loads of denials when it 1st appeared saying it wasn’t Lizzie bc shes taller, it was taken in Feb when she’s wearing flip-flops, why is she wearing a coat in July etc. Someone on this thread appears to think it’s photoshopped. People see what they want to see and if it’s not clear then that just backs that up.

  3. Easi says:

    I though it was a beard sitch?

  4. Kitty says:

    TH has become lizzies JA then according to all these reports and rumors.

    But I can see them coming out properly after ISTL has had its premieres if there is anything. I got admit it has over shadowed the film a bit because when I was looking for reviews all I got was “are they? aren’t they?” And it was very annoying.

  5. Luca76 says:

    They are totally doing it. Maybe they aren’t ready to officially be a couple with his crazy fans being crazy. And maybe they aren’t officially boyfriend/ girlfriend at the moment but they are doing it.

    • NUTBALLS says:

      I think it’s naive to assume they’re not sleeping together. They’re beautiful, unattached people who enjoy sex and who by her admission had chemistry right from the offset.

      Do people honestly think Tom is celibate between girlfriends? Who do you think he’s banging? Mostly likely, it’s going to be a good friend he knows through his work who he can trust not to betray him to the press. They can’t be too serious while they live 12 hours flying distance a part, but they can have a good sexy rumpus when they do see other.

      • erica says:

        Tom’s a grown, healthy, normal man, but people assume that all he does in his off time, is run around trying to find women to sleep with. Geeze, yes he’s not a virgin, but I doubt he’s this raving, lunitic, sex maniac. lol Maybe it’s just everyone’s fantasy to believe that about him.

      • Arya says:

        I think it’s naive to assume that he is banging someone who doesn’t even live on the same continent.

        If he wants to get laid regularly…well…there are plently of single women in London.

      • Miss Melissa says:

        @ Arya
        Because people who travel frequently for work don’t have sex with anyone who doesn’t live in their hometown?

        Uh, no.

        People who work on the road have most of their sex there, most often with people who live a similar lifestyle. And yes, I speak from experience.

      • NUTBALLS says:

        Arya, read my comment again. I said “when they see each other”. If you think Tom only sleeps with women when he’s home, then you are the one who’s naive.

        Piggybacking on Miss Melissa’s comment:

        Actors have many opportunities to get laid when they’re traveling — women on set (costars, crew), women they meet at parties and events, trusted fwbs — they are solicited everywhere they go and yes, an attractive, popular man like Tom will enjoy his sexual currency. Doesn’t make him a horndog, just a normal man who loves getting laid.

      • Arya says:

        Seriously I don’t see why would be naive to think that they are not doing it. Why would they risk their friendship and why would he go for a woman who probably still carry a lot of emotional baggage ?
        I bet there are tons of other women who are not only more accessible but won’t get him into trouble. Or maybe they did it and now he thinks it’s not worth the drama ?!
        At the end of the day we can’t know anything for sure.

        On the side note – I did a reading based on his handwriting and there is a lot of dissatisfaction which doesn’t go along with the whole “he gets laid wherever he goes” thing.

  6. Talie says:

    I feel bad about the reviews, mostly for Elizabeth. She’s been needing another breakthrough since Martha Marcy — so much potential.

    • NUTBALLS says:

      Agree, she has a lot of potential based on her performance in MMMM, but since then her roles haven’t been that great. I suspect she moved into the blockbuster genre because she had a string of sleepers. It’s not going to be as artistically satisfying as a good, nuanced indy role, but it does give her exposure and a paycheck. It was a good decision, but the downside is that Marvel owns her for a few years at least. She’s already mentioned that she had to turn down an opportunity to be in The Lobster because of Avengers so there’s a trade off.

      She’s been unemployed since June and has nothing coming up, according to her IMDB, so she has reason to be concerned. Alica V, Roona Mara, K-Stew, Carey Mulligan, Brie Larson are snagging good roles that EO is missing out on. I’m not surprised her camp would use her relationship with Tom to get her name out there, really. I do hope her performance in ISTL will be noted by directors and studios and get her out of this slump she seems to be in.

      • Kitty says:

        “Alica V, Roona Mara, K-Stew, Carey Mulligan, Brie Larson”
        One of these is not like the others and you know it

  7. Ana A. says:

    I think they have been/are sleeping with each other but aren’t dating. She just left her fiance and he is a player. Never mind that they live on different continents and at least he is very busy with his career. I think they just enjoy each other when they have time, but aren’t seriously involved. So why should she confirm that they are dating? All the pics with them together at TIFF are nothing unusual. He does the same with all his co-stars.

  8. Crocuta says:

    I doubt they’re dating (which saddens me, I was really into them as a couple), just banging (or were banging). They have to post for photos together, they’re the lead actors in a film presented there. Nothing weird in that.

  9. Balm says:

    Wasn’t it just promotion for their film? I think he’s still in love with Susannah Fielding.

    • Catherine says:

      After nearly 4 yrs? Anything to explain why he hasn’t had a serious gf since eh

      • Balm says:

        I’ve noticed a lot of gay rumours, but I seriously doubt he’s gay. I think he’s kind of gets along with a lot of women but he seems like one of those guys who finds it hard to stay IN LOVE. He did say a bit about Susannah Fielding – can’t remember what it was – but I got the impression he was dumped and was really into her. She’s gorgeous but I think it was their theater background that really bonded them, maybe? And she’s the only partner he’s ever taken to film premieres. He was dating some other industry person – a Brit I thinkk – for a millisecond but he only appeared at some tennis match (?) with her.

      • erica says:

        Concerning Tom and Susannah, Tom said in an article about their break-up , “People assumed it was about me getting well-known and leaving her behind, but she is a very talented actress and has lots of projects coming up. It’s just I am very driven right now and there isn’t really any time to have a proper girlfriend.”

      • Kitty says:

        I hear the gay rumors and read that he kinda over does it to disprove it by appearing awkwardly with a woman Ja or Eo. Of course to the normal fan it doesn’t matter if he’s single, gay, bi or got a gf but to some fans and to him who’s very public conscious of his image its best to this and say nothing about the ‘relationships’ to keep any rumors at bay.

        I think he’s straight but playing the field but what do I know?
        In this instance him or EO put it out there themselves so it would be harsh to have a go at people speculating about his private life this time.

        Anyway who’s looking forward to some naked hiddlesbutt in High Rise?

      • marylinn says:

        “I’ve noticed a lot of gay rumours”- all I see these rumors appeared after his date fiasco with EO. So I guess the things go awry between them and these rumors are making by her/her PR-team.

  10. Catherine says:

    Kaiser, has there been some pda that I’ve missed? Have they been seen together except in a professional capacity at promo events? She turned up at the HR screening (holding hands with Marc Abraham) but then it was one of the popular screenings, Eddie Redmayne was there too. I dont think they’re together, though I’ve no doubt something was going on in July, then she disappeared back to LA and there were several sightings of him alone in London. So if there was, there isn’t now. Her denial is telling though, shes lying about something IMO.

    • Nina says:

      There were pictures of them walking in London with their arms around each others backs.

      • Catherine says:

        That was before the pap outing, I was referring to the 6 weeks following that.

      • Balm says:

        He’s really affectionate with his gal friends. He held hands with Kate Dennings all the time during Thor-related promotions.

      • Catherine says:

        Balm, that’s because he was probably dating Kat during the Thor shoot, that’s when those pics were taken

      • Bususa says:

        No, they weren’t. It was a single moment that the photographer wanted us to see, as if they were a couple. The photo consisted from two photos cropped and recropped so the photographer made us see what they wanted us to see, period.

      • erica says:

        His left arm was around her shoulder and her right arm was down to her side or in her pocket.

      • NUTBALLS says:

        Lizzy is Kat 2.0.

      • Catherine says:

        Now I’m really confused as to which pic we’re talking about- the candid of Tom & Lizzie that appeared on the Toby blog? See the discussion above.

  11. SugarMalone says:

    I also posted this in yesterday’s Tom thread before I saw this go up:

    RE: HIGH-RISE – I really liked it but I like Ben Wheatley’s films which are admittedly not for everyone. I would be interested to hear from someone who hasn’t read the book about what they thought of the movie – I think I was able to fill in some blanks in the storyline because as Ben said himself in the Q&A, the screenwriter wanted to keep some things – motivations and backstories – a secret from the audience.

    Anyway, it’s delightfully weird and perverse and Tom is great at playing slightly unhinged. It’s also something I probably won’t watch again anytime soon. I can totally understand why someone wouldn’t have enjoyed it.

    The Q&A was pretty restrained except for one chick who asked Jeremy Irons to recite the alphabet because she liked his voice so much. He countered with a cute story that perfectly deflected the idiocy.

    • Lilacflowers says:

      Thanks for your review, SugarMalone. Keep up the good reporting work.

    • p'enny says:

      Ben Wheatley is an aquired taste. but i know i am going to love this film. :-) cant wait.

    • A.Key says:

      But Jeremy Irons does have the most amazing voice ever heard.
      I can’t blame the poor woman for trying.

      • SugarMalone says:

        I totally get that but I mean, he’s going to answer any question you ask using his beautiful voice so come up with a good one and then you don’t look like a dumbass in front of a theatre full of people.

        He was also wearing fabulous high boots. He really just exudes fabulousness.

      • A.Key says:

        You’re right of course, but I still empathize with the poor alphabet lady.
        In the presence of the f-ck god that is Jeremy Irons, I would’ve made a fool of myself too.

      • Lilacflowers says:

        Ask him to sing his song from the Lion King. He probably would have done it and she would have heard his voice in full glory

    • Mia4S says:

      40-50 walk outs during High Rise according to various critics! Not so surprising given the source material but the likelihood of a wide release just went to zero! A few theatres and VOD I imagine. Of course now I kind of want to see it…

      I want Ben Wheatley to break out so hopefully Free Fire is awesome!

      • NUTBALLS says:

        That’s what I’m thinking… no one’s going to put much $$ into distributing a movie that won’t be widely enjoyed.

      • p'enny says:

        it would never have been wide release, those who think Ben Wheatley would make wide release this side of the next five years are kidding.

      • Waitwhat says:

        Exactly. I’m not sure that any of Wheatley’s previous films had wide release in the US, so don’t know why this would be much different, except for the bigger names in the cast.

        I loved it! @SugarMalone is right – Tom’s great at playing slightly unhinged. I loved Luke Evans as Wilder, too. But I love weird, visual stuff like that, which isn’t everyone’s taste. And I’d read the book, so that may have helped.

        40-50 walkouts out of 1500 in the theatre? Not bad, especially for something that’s going to be devisive no matter what.

      • TotallyBiased says:

        There were walkouts at Clockwork Orange (it was panned by Pauline Kael, Stanley Kauffman, and Roger Ebert) and at the Cannes premiere of Pulp Fiction (which won the festival’s highest award.). Just for perspective. The walkouts at High Rise were evidently mostly from the Reserved seats–which begs the question, if you’re a journalist who’s been given a free seat are you obligated to stay until the end? They didn’t have to accept the seat, and –given the director and source material– what exactly were they expecting?

      • P'enny says:

        Reserved seats will include th hoity toity that demand seats and haven’t a clue what they should be watching, or can’t be bothered, like the corporate sponsors at Wimbledon who can’t wait to be aback at the bar.

  12. NUTBALLS says:

    A.Key said it best pm yesterday’s post:

    “That’s not a clear no. That’s a “we’re not committing to anything but we do mess around if we feel like it and are not above stirring the waters for some PR money” answer.”

    • Miss Melissa says:

      Yes Nutballs.

      And no, I don’t believe her.

      She is correct. People will believe what they want.

      Including what Lizzy wants us to believe… in any given moment.

      • NUTBALLS says:

        It all depends on how you define “dating”, doesn’t it? My understanding of Hollywood is that there is plenty of sexual activity happening the is outside the realm of “dating” as many of us understand it.

  13. Sixer says:

    Is that Lizzie speak for “I turned out to be nothing to write home about?”

    Best I can come up with on short notice. BRING BACK THE ARTHY!

    • p'enny says:

      thats very funny
      and it’s probably true.

    • Lilacflowers says:

      Maybe the ARTHY never left and is laughing about this while sipping breakfast in bed coffee in Tom’s hotel room.

    • Catherine says:

      Haha Sixer that crossed my mind too, it didn’t work out the way she wanted now she’s denying the whole thing. That or they’re casual, she not going to admit that is she?

    • Sixer says:

      I miss you ladies! Sorry I’m not about much for Puddletom posts but I’m honestly finding it really hard to drum up any interest in him these days. Even snarky interest! Hopefully, that might change with High Rise, cos I do love Bonkers Ben W.

      If only The Arthy could make a return. Sigh. I loved her.

    • NUTBALLS says:

      Heh heh… Welcome back to the fray, Sixer.

      Lilac, you described my dream scenario. Now, if she’d troll the fans with a snap of her in his bed giving the two-finger salute to the camera, my day would be complete.

    • seesittellsit says:

      +1,000!

    • j.eyre says:

      I would like to point out that Fiddles Puddletom has never officially commented on his status with Miss Piggy. Now that Kermit is flaunting his new side-ham around the office, I imagine Lord Dragonfly and Queen Pig will do a proper rollout and avoid all speculation of overlap with the Frog.

      • p'enny says:

        Miss Piggy and Nathan Fillion were doing it in a trailer the other week, so Tom will have to bat Nathan out of there and that is a celeb death match i would like to see.

      • Lilacflowers says:

        But they definitely began their fling during the filming of that muppet movie when Piggy was still with Kermit.

      • j.eyre says:

        I think Nate was a revenge thing for the whole Wimbledon show, Piggy doesn’t mince her messages.

        I think they rekindled their romance on set but don’t you think this all began on the red carpet at the BAFTAs? He just can’t seem to quit her (and who can blame him?)

      • Waitwhat says:

        But will it come from Piggy’s people or his?

      • Lilacflowers says:

        Well, who would ever want to quit a good piece of bacon?

  14. Hannah says:

    They can say what they want. I’m not a celeb and due to group friendship politics my fiancé and I denied we were a couple for a good 8 or so months.

    It’s nobody elses business.

    • ell says:

      this. i don’t understand what people expect celebrities to do. maybe they’re not comfortable with coming out as an official couple, or maybe they just don’t want this kind of attention. there could be many reasons.

  15. madly says:

    third post about this in a week, for the love, make it stop.

  16. embertine says:

    In my head she has a To Do list on her ‘fridge with the names of all the Marvel boys on it, and she’s checking them off one by one. Or maybe that’s just what I would do?

  17. Lilacflowers says:

    I have lots of work to get done today but Colin and Mark have assured me that the food and beverages will be kept well-stocked on the veranda and in the meadow. Mark has strengthened the security measures around the meadow as the fray seems a tad loud this morning.

    Waiting to see more full reviews of High-Rise.

  18. Ronda says:

    she cant really confirm it without the press asking questions about Elizabeth and Tom getting it on behind her fiancés back.

  19. Jamie says:

    Wow. If the photos from tiff show them being a couple, then Tom is also in a relationship with Jessica, Brie Larson, AND Eddie Redmanye. I had a friend who was at the I Saw The Light screening and they didn’t even sit together during the film. And they went to the after parties separately. They have probably did the nasty a couple times, but being seen one weekend with someone who looked like he could care less about you when the paparazzi were crawling all over you probably isn’t a relationship. Or it’s a really terrible one. Let me add, that comment sounds like a bitter one. Like someone who is playing it off because she got passed over already.

  20. Merritt says:

    I believe her. So far all that has been shown is that they hang out. If more suggestive information came out, then maybe they are together. But so far, I really don’t think they are.

  21. Nina says:

    Both Hiddleston and Olsen always seem to pick mostly flop projects. Not in terms of box office or anything, but in terms of being….actually good movies.

    • seesittellsit says:

      How can you say that?! Why, those THOR/Marvel films were the apex of intellectual and box office power! :) Isn’t EO the new Scarlet Witch in those? Actually, I thought Only Lovers Left Alive was delightful, but it wasn’t a huge box office hit – I suspect it’s raking it in on the DVD front, though, what we call a “cult hit”. And TH did play F. Scott Fitzgerald in “Midnight in Paris” which I also thought was good . . .

    • p'enny says:

      well, he’s taking risks and not settling for supporting roles in higher expensively made films, at the moment. Kudos to that. Marvel & Skull Island will now doubt keep him in the money, so he can have fun with the smaller films and show people his range.

    • Leah says:

      “Being good movies” according to…you? Up until ISTL he had a perfect record for “fresh” on Rotten Tomatoes. He is doing fine for critical reception.

      • et alors says:

        Agreed, Leah. It’s disappointing that his perfect record was broken by a film in which, by almost all accounts, he gave a great performance.

  22. Pandy says:

    Didn’t read the article and just wanted to post that I don’t care about either of them.

  23. seesittellsit says:

    Totally believe her. It was a pretty direct answer and why on earth would she lie about it if they are?! Even at Woleseys he was so unprotective – he never even took her hand in the cab leaving. Maybe they took a few turns around the park, remain comfy with each other, gave one half-hearted try at some pap PR, then let it go. With TH’s appetites and life right now, at only 34, I’d guess this boy has quite a few fish to fry yet. Yeah, I believe her.

    • NUTBALLS says:

      Yeah, because celebrities never lie to protect their image and privacy.

      And two good looking celebrities who are single don’t ever have casual sex — especially in Hollywood.

      Really, what do you expect her to say? “Yea, we’ve been hitting it for awhile but it’s nothing serious at this point.” Of course she’s going to deny being a couple.

      Unfortunately, after seeking media attention in July, they have to address the rumors and this is exactly what I’d expect from them. Perhaps down the road, she’ll move to London and they will start “officially” dating, but for now, it can’t be anything but casual messing around when they get together.

      • seesittellsit says:

        Ummm, I did say maybe they took a few turns around the park, did I not? And while everyone lies once in awhile, it’s kinda not great PR in the long run for a celeb like this to say NO when the real answer is YES. It can piss fans off. It’s just not a great idea. But I never said that I thought they weren’t doing the nasty . . . my perception of people in this business is that indulgence is a religion . . .

  24. p'enny says:

    They are doing it, but Tom is also doing it with Josh Horowitz today.

    Seriously, they made an error going to the restaurant and do the pap run. They shouldnt have done it, i think they got their hands slapped by the fans and they have gone back into the closet. I respect more that they kept calm at the showing and concetrated on the business at hand.

    Time will tell if they get serious or not, but considering Tom is in the Jungle from Oct to New Year, he has a 7 week promo of Crimson Peak, and at least three other film fesitvals which are set for High Rise and one other ISTL. There next hook up is going to be Nov release of ISTL. they might get a quickie in LA and NY.

    Now thats all i am going to say on the matter, because i have no intention of going down the fake-baby, mad-erdam, crazy relationship chatter route. but, i have no problems of others doing so, as it can be amusing.

    i shall be on Lilacflowers veranda waiting Tom;s return with his fluffy tie for extra fun in the sun.

    • NUTBALLS says:

      P’enny, their next hookup would be LFF, I think.

      I think this is damage control we’re seeing. The pap walk in July backfired on them and people started speculating as to when their affair started and whether or not she was engaged at the time. Their images took a hit as a result. As much as both of them want and need media attention, they need to shake the homewrecker/cheater labels.

      And you know, there are ladies on a mission to burn every one of those knitted ties. You might want to stock up so you’ve got some extras on hand the next time you and Tom get together.

      • NUTBALLS says:

        Upon further thought, I think the PR for the romance just ran its course. They only used the hooking up rumor and July pap walks to get some media attention prior to this weekend. Now that the film is panned, there’s no real reason to let anyone keep speculating “are they or aren’t they”.

        So whether anyone believes they’ve been shagging or not, it was useful for raising their profiles and it’s not needed anymore, hence the denials. I for one am happy not to see anything more on it, regardless of what’s really going on.

  25. H says:

    I get the feeling they WERE hitting it, but the vibe seems not to be there anymore. Maybe just a casual fling and now it’s over? Hiddleston and Fassy seem to like to keep their flings on the down low and don’t seem interested in settling down yet. But what do I know? Lesbian here, I haven’t dated a guy since college! :)

    Good luck to them if they are together and want to keep it private.

    • Leah says:

      Fassy and tom are not similar at all. Fassy has girlfriends, usually a sort of semi serious gf every year he is not particularly private about them. Google it and you will find lots of pda photos with him and various love interests; zoe nicole, alicia and a whole bunch of others.
      Tom on the other hand has not been known to have had a girlfriend since he became famous. For someone as thirsty as him i find it hard to believe he would be so private if there was someone. I simply think he hasn’t had anyone serious since he got famous.

      • NUTBALLS says:

        Yes to all of this. He’s seeing women, having lots of hot monkey love, but he’s not parading his lovers around in public. That’s why so many of us called him out on both of the papped “events” with Lizzy. It’s way out of character for Tom to strut around with a woman who he’s rumored to be sleeping with, so both of those walks were meant to generate chatter on the interwebs and raise their profiles. That was the only reason either of these B-list actors were being talked about in mainstream media. Unfortunately, their pap walk happened the same week as the Afflect-Garner frenzy started so it pretty much got buried and only those that follow their careers even noticed.

    • erica says:

      It’s okay to keep their relationship private if indeed there is a relationship. No celebrity wants the press following them all over the place. I can understand that. But can’t they just admit they’re dating? Then when she says they’re not, still no one believes her and I really don’t think she gives a damn about it.

    • EN says:

      That is what I feel like too. They both moved on, because they are both very busy and ambitious. Olsen is coming into her prime as an actress, she has to take full advantage of this time.
      While on the set it was probably very tempting but far away from each other, “out of sight out of mind” it fizzled out.

  26. A.Key says:

    Is dating the new euphemism for “if-you-seek-amy”-ing?

  27. j says:

    So, to stop some of the silly fan girl fantasy lies before they start. Elizabeth Olsen did not arrive at the High-Rise premiere with Tom. She actually arrived hand in hand with Marc Abraham – the director of ISTL. High-Rise is the hot ticket and many celebrities are there. Sorry THEO shippers

    http://wthanon4u.tumblr.com/post/129054588225/so-to-stop-some-of-the-silly-fan-girl-fantasy

    • erica says:

      She was already there at TIFF, why not go the the High Rise premiere and all the parties? Just makes sense.

    • NUTBALLS says:

      Damage control. Tom also said he worked 38 days without down time for anything else, the same weekend she’s denying that they’re dating. Ok, sure.

      I’m surprised at how quickly people assume that she’s telling the God’s honest truth when she a) has every reason to lie and b) people have casual sex without “dating”.

      • TotallyBiased says:

        Without disagreeing with your other points re them dating, I meant to comment yesterday when that other poster made the point about ‘timing’—considering this is TIFF weekend and they are each doing umpty-jillion interviews, calling the timing suspicious is a stretch.

      • NUTBALLS says:

        Of course, TB. I meant that the comment would be a way of making it sound like he had no time to engage in any affair with Lizzy, which helps to downplay the homewrecker charge that was leveled at him.

      • Portia says:

        @Nutballs – Wait, what reason does Elizabeth Olsen have to lie about dating Tom? From all that I’ve read so far, neither have any reason to go so deep underground with their romance if there is one. If Tom’s crazy fangirls are the reason, then that doesn’t work because no one would let a small minority have such a monumental say in their private life. Because those crazy fangirls are a minority, a very vocal one but a small minority nonetheless. Most of Tom’s fans seem to be either happy that he’s dating or indifferent because they don’t really care about his private life.

        If it’s about being in the spotlight, Elizabeth has seen worse as an Olsen sister. She got hounded worse by paps when she was in NY. You can see all her pap shots on her fansites and a lot of them are more invasive than the ones with Tom in London. She’s mature enough to handle the paps but she refuses to indulge them now and has only recently begun hiding her face when the paps come at her during her private time. Sounds more like a principle thing than a bratty princess one people keep accusing her of, and honestly that’s her choice to make as a celebrity.

        Even Boyd Holbrook has begun dating after his and Elizabeth’s breakup. Why can’t she? No one cares if she had an affair. Look at Hugh Dancy and Claire Danes. Their entire relationship started when they were both with other people. They cheated with each other then broke it off with their SO’s then began full blown dating and are now happily together. I really don’t see Tom or Elizabeth as the type of people to hide if they are dating someone.

        It is funny though that people wanted a statement from either Elizabeth or Tom and now when Elizabeth gives a clear resounding “no”, there’s still doubt. Why on earth would these two hide that they’re dating?

    • Miss Jupitero says:

      If she is banging the director that would be so….. *barf* Olsen sister of her.

  28. browniecakes says:

    Who would deny dating Tom? [Plenty of time has past since the ended engagement. Don't with that.]

    Are we going to talk about High – Rise? Doesn’t sound like your average movie to be shown in a theater near you does it? NC17 or just an R? DVD or Blueray for this blue movie with a gag reel, extras please?

    • Lilacflowers says:

      I wondered about the rating too and fear of a NC-17 rating may explain why there is no US distributor yet.

    • Mia4S says:

      As I wrote above, mainstream critics were tweeting about the high number of walkouts from High Rise. The odds of US distribution are slim and a wide release is nil. The reactions make me think it could get “cult movie” status…or it’s just terrible?

    • Gingerly says:

      The official twitter of the High-Rise once said that the film got 15 in UK. Cronenberg’s Crash (1996) got nc-17 (US) and 18/banned (UK). We will see. Yet I do think this film is not for everyone and it will be a bit difficult to find a distributor.

    • NUTBALLS says:

      Who would deny dating Tom? The same woman who childishly hid her face from the expected paps like he was her shamef*ck. She should have gone in close to one of the videocams and said, “Yeah, I’m doing your man tonight, b*tches!” with all the smugness she could muster.

      Or perhaps, I’m projecting what I would have done in her position. :-)

    • Miss Jupitero says:

      Oh please, please let this come to the Kendall or to Coolidge Corner!

      Sigh. I do not feel much hope for a wide release, never did really, but I am also thinking that maybe they knew this was going to happen all along. As long as it shows up *somewhere* where I can see it….

      • Lilacflowers says:

        At this point, I would be happy if it came to the Brattle, Emerson, ICA, or MFA (which is where I saw Exhibition. The Brattle has also shown Exhibition but months later). I really, really want to see this film

      • Miss Jupitero says:

        I am so there, LF…..

  29. Kathy says:

    I really don’t get why people can’t let this go. There’s zero reason to believe that they were ever more than friends, their behaviour has been no friendlier towards each other than towards anyone else. People do go to dinner with friends!

    I actually have friends who went to the restaurant they had dinner at the other day. No celebs were spotted, but they enjoyed the food.

  30. meme says:

    Meh…don’t care. I knew ISTL was going to be bad … ditto for The Danish Girl with Redmayne (please god don’t give him another Oscar just for playing trans)

    • Miss Jupitero says:

      Real trans folk are very unhappy about how this film was cast and handled– as in could they really not find an actual trans actress?– so I am fine with watching it sink.

    • byland says:

      Yes, but I can’t help but think Eddie and Alicia are a better cast than the two originally attached to the projects (ages ago, but still), Nicole Kidman and Gwyneth Paltrow.

      Also, having a cis-gender man in the role is/was probably a way to try and ease mainstream audiences into seeing the movie, considering the subject matter. That’s what’s been suggested as to why the film is structured the way it is – to present a story that (undeservedly) still makes many people uncomfortable in a way that is familiar. All the seasons of Rupaul’s Drag Race and I am Cait TV exec’s can produce aren’t going to erase deeply held biais overnight, no matter how much you and I might wish differently.

      Also, yes, they could have found a actual trans actress, but would the film have secured funding? I’m not saying it’s okay – it’s not – but sadly that’s the way our society still (barely) functions.

  31. Veronica says:

    Old and cynical party of one here to propose a theory:
    Someone’s PR team leaked the dating stories ahead of the film festivals to garner some press. The same PR person likely tipped off the paps re: the posh dinner “date”, and probably planted the stories on the gossip sites that they’ve been an item since filming.
    Jump ahead to the film festival, where the only good things being said about ISTL are the reviews of Hiddleston’s performance.
    So, this film isn’t going to be a contender, neither actor is likely to be nominated for a major award. (Or a leg lamp, for that matter.) Therefore, no more reason to play the “are they or aren’t they” game, hence the flat out denials about dating. If the film were getting better reviews, I have no doubt that this would’ve played out differently.

    • M says:

      Exactly my thought since the beginning. No one was talking about I Saw The Light before the rumors start.

    • madly says:

      You have to add into it all the major gossip/ pr friendly sites had stories of their rumored romance. That wasn’t by accident. Neither is a new posting on a certain website that is a friend to this one. Trust.

    • Miss Melissa says:

      Yup.

  32. Bususa says:

    God people bow can you ALL BE so stupid and delusional. Get over the fact that they are just good friends, stop being such dumbasses. Thirsty too much huh? Well, sorry, but it’s OVER. SO APPARENTLY according to your one dimensional logic Daily Mail articles and all gossip trash mags are true, and the words that came out from Olsen’s own mouth are lie. Seriously people grow up. Your idiotic ideas are getting annoying.

    • Phoebe says:

      Whoa- no need for name calling here Bususa- people are allowed to speculate whatever they want- it’s a gossip website. It doesn’t make them stupid or idiotic. None of us know the real truth, including you (unless, Lizzie, is that you?). The one true thing that EO said that we can all agree on was that people will believe what they want to believe.

  33. erica says:

    Depends on which side of the fence you’re on. If you don’t like them as a couple, you’re going to believe EO’s answer in the interview. If you do, then she’s lying. I don’t know… Why would she say it if it’s not true? She could have easily asked before the interview not to be asked personal questions. That would have ended it. Just saying.

    They’ve been friends for 4 years. Doesn’t anyone have a good friend you visit, go to dinner and movies with? I know I do. And he puts his arm around me and we’re just close friends. Maybe that’s how they are. Maybe it’s more. You just can’t tell.

    And you can’t really tell by his behavior to her at TIFF. Tom is always very loving to his female co-stars. You’d have thought he and Tilda were newlyweds the way they acted at Cannes and the all the promotions for OLLA, and the same with Jessica, Natalie, Rachel, Mia etc. He looks at them all as if they were the love of his life. He looks at his male co-stars that way too. So no, you can’t tell by his behavior.

    EO said at the end of the interview that people can think what they want. And we will.

  34. linda moore says:

    She’s with the director she was holding hands walking into the building with him so shut up

  35. Leah says:

    I am not Hiddleston fan and i couldn’t care less who he is dating but why on earth are people saying he is dating Olsen when she herself says that isn’t the case. Why can’t they just be friends who went out for dinner? Why does it have to be some conspiracy. They are both single they have nothing to hide and if anything them dating would give the movie more publicity.

    • erica says:

      Because as much as some people passionately DON’T want them to be together, some people passionately DO. And they won’t take no for an answer.

      • NUTBALLS says:

        Some of us don’t care if they are or they aren’t, but see PR driving the leaks and photos ahead of ISTL’s premier.

  36. Phoebe says:

    If they are dating, and wanted to use it for PR, then WHY would she deny it? She could have said- “I don’t comment on my personal life”, or been more coy or banned the question full stop – but she answered it. I didn’t see pics of them together that weren’t related to the film they are co-stars in, of course they will be photographed together promoting their film. Of course they might look each other in the eyes while they converse and put their arms around each other for pics. Like everyone said- if that’s the basis for dating- then Tom is dating everyone at TIFF, including Redmayne, Luke Evans and Jeremy Irons!

    I think they are just friends and until I see real affection between them- not just standing next to each other and posing for pics or one dinner- that’s what I’ll believe.

  37. koko says:

    Well this was sure to be head spinning week and so far I’m not disappointed.
    I agree with her last sentence.
    “I mean people will think what they want to think”.

  38. Grace says:

    I’ve only seen Ms. Olsen in Kill Your Darlings, in which she played a forgettable girlfriend whose fellow helped disposing a dead body. She seems pleasant enough, pretty. I mean, I try to find something to say but I struggle to come up with anything other than – her clothes game on red carpet is not exactly strong. There, I tried.

    Now, ladies, who else is looking forward to High Rise trailer? :)

    • Hannah says:

      She’s very good in that Martha, marcy etc movie,also very good in Liberal Arts. I like her indie work. I am not into marvel movies so I don’t get the whole Hiddleston/Loki thing. I hardly payed attention to him in Thor.I know everyone here think he is the second coming, but I have not been incredibly impressed with anything I have seen him in. He’s good, but not remarkably so like ejiofor or hardy. Seems a nice guy though.

  39. Freshmeat says:

    This post is doing exactly what their movie outing weekend didn’t do. That’s try to create insane break the internet buzz. She said no they’re not, so okay then. Do I fully buy that nothing EVER happened? Of course not. It is what they want us to see. I wonder if her answer to that question would have been different if the movie was better critiqued?

  40. Alice says:

    Wow… I mean I totally get shipping two people together, I do. But if they are denying it, if there are pictures of her holding hands with Marc Abraham at the HR premiere (look above), and the only reasoning for people saying they are together is because they went to dinner once, like normal people sometimes do, and Tom always cuddles to his co-stars (he kissed Natalie Portman’s forehead at one of the Thor 2 premieres, held her so close he almost picked her off the ground, he often holds Jessica Chastain close, etc.) then I honestly think nothing will convince Kaiser or anyone who ships them of the opposite. They’ll probably marry other people and have children, and the people here will still say they are secretly together. And they complain about the ‘Dragonflies’? Hypocrite much? Whenever Tom dates someone we’ll know, it doesn’t matter if people love it or hate it, it will happen regardless. But this whole conspiracy is just too much. I already stay away from his Tumblr tag for a reason. Elizabeth said it best, since she knew wackos will still talk no matter what: People will think what they want to think.

  41. Hannah says:

    He looks like Shirley temple in that first photo.

  42. Corrie says:

    I haven’t dated in a decade… but I definitely don’t ever remember confirming my boyfriend (now husband) as my boyfriend til a year or more in. Its not that different. Maybe they are seeing each other, hanging out as friends/testing waters. Having fun but i think we all use the “boyfriend/girlfriend” term too easily these days ESP with grown people. They aren’t teens. Let them live. lol

  43. lunchcoma says:

    I suspect there at least WAS something going on, whether it was serious or just casual. I think it might be more up in the air whether it’s still happening. It doesn’t sound like I Saw the Light is going to get an Oscar dance given the reviews, and I wouldn’t be shocked if they both quietly decided to call off whatever was going on now that they’re unlikely to be seeing each other any time soon. She was on the rebound and he hasn’t been with anyone seriously and publicly in years, so I’m not surprised it ended up being more of a fling.

  44. Miss Jupitero says:

    I get the desire to ship as well, but I just don;t see it here. I don’t think EO was being coy, just honest, and nothing from the photos say “couple” to me. But hey, surprise me.

    As time goes on, I am wondering if TH is the relationship “type.” He seems to be all about his career only.

    • madly says:

      I don’t see the coy in her denial either. I think her no was pretty definitive. I don’t get why people want these two together if it is true from what someone on this board is saying and she’s an entitled diva. That an how immature she acted on that date night….

  45. et alors says:

    Someone brought a whole new wardrobe to Toronto. This slightly cable-knit sweater is lovely, and (surprise, surprise) it’s dark blue.

    https://twitter.com/jenelleriley/status/643447938572677120

    • erica says:

      Wow, gorgeous!

    • Kitty says:

      Someone is splashing out the dollars to impress

      *note it doesn’t have to be a love interest but Film suits, directors, casting agents etc*

    • et alors says:

      Yes, I’d expect him to have a new wardrobe for this promotional swing.

      I wonder if Ralph Lauren gave him some suits for promotional purposes. The one he wore to the ISTL screening was a Polo RL, and they tweeted a picture of him in it. The double-breasted suit Eddie is wearing above is RL as well.

    • tigerlily says:

      Love it. much better than the blue suits

    • Lilacflowers says:

      Lovely, isn’t he? And we must maintain the color scheme

    • NUTBALLS says:

      Damn, I like that fella in a sweater. I want to put my hands all over that thing, then under, then take it off…

      *splashes cold water on head to cool down*

  46. Fanny says:

    There was definitely something going on back in July. She was in England for no apparent reason except to visit him. He took her to his hometown (Oxford) and the way they were strolling arm in arm was more than just colleagues. (It was her arm under his coat that did it for me.) And this was all after there had been rumors for months about them dating, so the pictures were just corroborating evidence.

    Either it’s still going on but it’s not serious enough to admit to publicly, or it fizzled. I tend to think the latter. He’s been seen all around London by himself and she’s been seen in LA doing inconsequential stuff. I think they decided what they had wasn’t worth the effort of a long distance relationship.

    I didn’t see any of the red carpet affection at the ISTL premiere that some people saw though. In fact, to me it looked like they were being very careful to look friendly and professional but not like a couple and they looked kind of stiff, like they were trying not to look directly at each other if possible.

    • erica says:

      EO was in England in July after the Paris Fashion week. She was seen at a hotel with Aaron Taylor Johnson and his wife and British actor Joe Dempsie the day Tom was at Wimledon. (July 9)

      I still don’t think her arm is around Tom in that pic. It seems to be down at her side or in her pocket. People have been getting that shot of them wrong. The person who took the photo of Tom at the table and the one of them walking away was at Ginger And White, the cafe in Tom’s neighborhood NW3.

    • Lilacflowers says:

      She was in England while he was at SDCC.

      @Erica, her forearm is going up to the front of her own body, holding her bag strap, not down into a pocket, not out across his body.

    • P'enny says:

      He didn’t take her to Oxford the pic was London the daily mail were wrong. However, if he did it’s a great city to visit. She might be an inspector morse fan.

  47. Della Moore says:

    …and now you’re a Real People Fanfic blog. Awesome.

    If she says they’re not dating, I’m going to assume she’s telling the truth. This blog is cute and all, but if you’re going to go down the same route as the crazy Cumberbatch fans it’s going to get embarrassing really damned fast.

    There’s probably an Elizabeth Olsen/Tom Hiddleston tag over on Archive Of Our Own, if you want to write RPF about two people you think should be dating. That’s a much better idea than deciding you don’t like Olsen for refusing to admit she’s dating Hiddleston just because you KNNNOOOOOOOOWWWWWW OMG THEY MUST BE.

  48. Heather says:

    Some journalist finally asked the question and she finally answered. THEO’s ship has sailed (sunk?) and it’s time to let it go.

    Do I think if the ISTL reviews had been different it would be a different story? Yes, she probably wouldn’t have said a thing and let the tabloids continue with the are they/arent they game. But the reviews are bad, the trades are praising the performances while the tabloids only care about what she was wearing and how cute they look standing next to each other. That’s got to be a bit disappointing..

    They might have had a fling, he could have charmed his way into her pants and she felt so guilty she broke off her engagement, who knows, but I certainly don’t see anything more than friend/acquaintance between them now. Certainly not if these photos are anything to go by.

    And yes I am glad about it. Her other comments in that article did not exactly endear me to the girl. She is still bland and doesn’t interest me as an actor at all. On to the next one, Tom! (I hear Brie has a boyfriend…*cough*)

    • Catherine says:

      Heather, good theory but the journo said the interview was on Sat and all the reviews came out on Sun. I saw a mention if it on Hollywood Elsewhere but that wasn’t a proper review. Personally I don’t think there’s a strategy to her denial, just the whole we went to dinner at the wrong time comment.

      • NUTBALLS says:

        The reviews started coming in Friday night after the premier, via twitter. Look at the CB post on the 11th to see a bunch of us commenting on it Friday night and all day Saturday. They knew right away that it was getting panned due to a weak script.

  49. Kitty says:

    Where’s that new thread of Hiddles about him looking hot at TFF? I wanted to submit a link to someone really nice photos of him wearing the new white shirt of sex

    • Lilacflowers says:

      It has moved to the second page. I’ve seen those pictures and they are truly delicious

    • TotallyBiased says:

      Kitty!!! I’m just going to lurk on the other thread until you post the white shirt links, because that’s where they belong and I don’t want to miss them.

  50. Kate says:

    I am so sick of this frigging story.
    But I can’t stop talking about it.
    I think they were together during filming. I think the summer outing was total PR.
    I also think Hiddleston is either hiding something personally (closeted) or that he is a serial cheater who is incapable of sustaining a relationship.

    I need to take my tinfoil hat off and go take a nap.

    • Catherine says:

      Kate, I’m sick of it too. Im here bc Im trying to understand it. There’s the shipping on one side, even when she makes a denial, the pr conspiracy theorists who are in denial anything happened at all (like those who think the candid pic is shopped) and those like me who are in between who see some sort of fling with pr involved.

      • Kate says:

        I think I hate it because I have a serious crush on TH and want him to not be the serial-dater/FWBer/womanizer (?) I’m thinking he might be. Lol.

        I need to get a life.

      • madly says:

        Kate, I think a lot of people on this thread are too. I actually made an attempt to go all day yesterday and not look things up. I worry that the debate will just continue even though, to me, it looks like whatever it was is over. Kinda like JArthy, that discussion went on for so long where there was very little to even go by.

  51. Beach girl says:

    Honestly I’m exhausted from all of this. I feel played and angry at myself for being so overly invested in his personal life. PR was part of the game at some point in all of this and I fed into it. Never again. Still a big fan but I’m not going down that rabbit hole anymore. Hollywood culture and pr not my thing. Let’s talk suit porn and wait for CP!

    • Kate says:

      +1, Beach girl.

      I’m a somewhat over-invested fan. I don’t want to meet the guy and in actuality don’t REEEEALLLY want to know what he does with his personal life, but on a superficial level I do get jealous when he’s rumored to be with/with someone. Unless that person is Hayley Atwell because I want that to happen. Or me. Ha!

      I’ve realized that it’s a waste of time and it’s really disheartening when one tries to break down celebs’ actions into semantics. There’s no point. We never really know what’s going on. Like Tom has said, it’s probably best if we all just “enjoy the work”. (And how sexy he looks in his suits.)

      Lainey over at Lainey Gossip has always said she believes that famous people seek out fame (even when they deny doing so) because there is some part of themselves that is missing/there is a need to fill/there are humongous issues. In my eyes, TH may very well be no different. Yes, he’s good at his job, and yes, he’s always claimed it’s “about the work”…but why does this guy want it so bad (fame with a capital F)? And before I get yelled at for saying that, it’s been well documented in years past that Tom used to do anything to be seen out/on social media, etc.

      I’m pleased he’s gotten all these roles of late, but I wonder if the panning of ISTL and the fact that HR isn’t everyone’s cup of tea will affect his offers down the line. (Probably won’t. It’s good that he takes risks.)

      Anyway, sorry to write a book, here. But Tom seems, on so many levels, like a wonderful guy (if I ignore the possibilities that he could be a cheating, non-monogamous asshole like a good portion of the world). I think that’s why part of me wants to see him in a long-term relationship. I want to know that a lovely lady (who doesn’t dress like a gothic hobo) gets to reap the benefits of being with TH – physical and otherwise.

      • madly says:

        Or at least someone who is as mature and intelligent as he is.

        Lainey’s latest post is funny. It doesn’t take much to please her, does it?

      • EN says:

        > But Tom seems, on so many levels, like a wonderful guy (if I ignore the possibilities that he could be a cheating, non-monogamous asshole like a good portion of the world). I think that’s why part of me wants to see him in a long-term relationship. I want to know that a lovely lady (who doesn’t dress like a gothic hobo) gets to reap the benefits of being with TH – physical and otherwise

        I feel the same. I used to say “it is time for him to get married” but I really mean is – I want him to be in a meaningful relationship that enriches his life, and not in this endless “friends with benefits” liasons. I feel like they cheapen him.

        And I don’t even care what the woman dresses like as long she is intelligent and mature like madly said.
        Olsen isn’t really a bad choice in my eyes. But it looks like they are done and over.

    • madly says:

      Most definitely. I’m cynical but I think despite her denials, she was behind pushing this story out there in the first place. Maybe at one point it was true, but I don’t think it is anymore. Besides, who does this story benefit the most? He’s getting the lion’s share of the praise, has other movies coming out and more to film. Who benefits from this pairing. That tells you the most about where it is coming from.

      • Kate says:

        madly,

        I just read Lainey’s post. I’m kind of happy that she said they didn’t have much interaction at the ISTL party. I’m fickle that way (and I trust Lainey’s instincts because she’s usually got good sources and her stuff checks out).

        It’s also funny to me that a few years ago Lainey “quit” her Tom “like” because his Twitter feed turned her off. The way she’s talking she fell back into crush territory very quickly…damn, but that man is potent. Yum.

      • madly says:

        I just don’t see anything different between them and he with other costars. It’s funny how people automatically think the denial is a confirmation. Could she be lying or stretching the truth, sure. But I tend to think that something did happen, but it passed. Their behavior between the July pics and now supports that. Whatever was going on with them or is going on with them isn’t an engagement in the works.

  52. TotallyBiased says:

    Oh, Kaiser–with all the rave reviews for his ‘towering, indelible’ performance, you choose that rather tepid NY Times quote?

    • erica says:

      Just watched the press conference. Poor Tom. You could tell he wanted to go on talking but of course everyone else had to have a chance. Maybe that’s why he hasn’t had a girlfriend. He won’t stop talking long enough to let them get a word in. lmao

      He was also talking about how much he researches every role he plays. You can’t do all that, then play the part, and have a full time girlfriend. He’s a workacholic. He’ll be like George Clooney. Married at 53.

  53. Lavender says:

    That picture of his arm around her shoulders:

    The only way for her arm to be around his waist would be that his jacket has a hole for her arm to go into.
    There’s no clearly discernible “bulge” from her arm, and you can see the rest of Tom’s jacket in front of her crooked elbow!
    Why would that be there, unless there’s a hole in it? If she had her arm around him like that, his jacket would be bunched up. But it isn’t. Seriously, have none of you ever walked like that? It’s quite a struggle with jackets etc in the way.

    • Catherine says:

      This is like The Dress meme a few months ago.

      Let me help you out here, I thought that too when I 1st saw the pic which is blurred so I looked at it again, her arm is around his waist under the jacket which has slits at the back (I don’t know what the feature is called). He was wearing the same jacket at the Letterslive event, and yes I can see that Juliet Stevenson’s arm is over the top in this pic:
      https://instagram.com/p/1Fx9sTo6i7/

      • DT says:

        still don’t see it under the coat unless she has really weird short T-rex like arms, coz there is no shape of an arm across his back and he doesn’t have a broad back. I think she is leaning into him holding onto the top of her bag strap, not pointing her arm down like I said before.

  54. DT says:

    Why aren’t we talking more about the creepy photo of her holding hands with Marc?? Is that a normal thing to do for actors? I don’t hold hands with my 50+ male colleagues or bosses when out on work parties…….. not trying to start a rumour about those two coz I don’t believe she’s with the director but why are they holding hands? That’s weird right??

    • NUTBALLS says:

      Yes, it’s weird, creepy and very OLSEN of her.

    • Portia says:

      That’s what I was wondering. I came on here to see what the CB posters were making of Elizabeth Olsen and Marc Abrahams holding hands but everyone’s ignoring it.

      I think it’s interesting that Abrahans had a wedding ring on while he shot ISTL and now at TIFF, I can’t find it on his hand. It’s very plausible that Elizabeth and Marc were the ones hooking up while Tom was staying with Rodney C. Directors hook up with their female leads a lot and that very well could be why Elizabeth and Boyd broke up.

      It’s definitely something to note that Elizabeth denies dating Tom but then shows up with Marc, hand in hand. She was also at all the after parties where Marc was, and not necessarily Tom. Also, when with Boyd, Elizabeth and him always held hands whenever out and about. And she isn’t like Tom who is known for holding hands casually and platonically with his co-stars. Elizabeth and Marc came to the High Rise showing together and left together. I don’t think Tom nor Elizabeth is the type to play such convoluted games to hide that they’re dating. I don’t think any celebrity takes it this far to hide a romance.

      • Fanny says:

        Tom alluded to Marc’s divorce in the introduction of ISTL in Toronto. He said something about how Marc is very sensitive about relationships for reasons he won’t mention and then Marc said, “It cost me a lot of money!”

        Lizzie could have something going on with the director but if she did, I really doubt she’d be showing up at events with him holding hands at this stage. That holding hands stuff is what actors do when it’s clear there is nothing going on – like Tilda holding hands with everybody (Tom’s not the only one).

      • DT says:

        I made a joke about it on the previous thread, but now I’m really wondering about it, surely it can’t be true with her and Marc…… what about all the THEO sightings not reported by the paps, the ones just by normal people, was she seeing them both? Did she dump Tom for Marc or did Tom dump her and she’s gone running to Marc to make Tom jealous? What in the name of Thors hammer is going on here?????

      • Catherine says:

        Yeah when I saw that pic I thought it was…weird. I saw a tumblr post with Tom on the RC and Lizzie could be seen behind him, then someone posted that pic of her and Marc. Some friends do hold hands though so I’m not going to jump to any conclusions.

      • Dara says:

        Thanks a lot everyone – thanks to you I’ve had to fish my tinfoil hat out of the rubbish bin, and I’m contemplating yet more repairs to the Conspiracy Theory gazebo. What if all those rumors about EO hooking up with costars was to deflect from the director being the one she actually did hook up with? If his ex was out for blood (and alimony) they could have been actively trying to hide why his marriage broke up and her engagement fell apart.

        Then again, holding hands going through a crowd is a good way to keep from getting separated – and I’d imagine they know each other well enough by now for it not to be weird or romantic. Until someone sees them canoodling at a TIFF party, I remain unconvinced.

      • Ana A. says:

        First I really just wanted to laugh that this is stupid. It makes as much sense as a whole lot of other stuff though. No one pays attention to them. The stunning young co-stars make for a better story and she was randomly hooked up with every male costar by tabloids the last months.

      • TotallyBiased says:

        @Dara — I think you’re in luck, Lilacflowers was bringing in a Hot Contractor to rush repairs on the Gazebo. ;)

      • NUTBALLS says:

        Is the hot contractor Tom Hardy, perchance?? I’m kinda in love with him after that Legend press conference. I love a man who can set boundaries with idiot journos.

      • Lilacflowers says:

        No, the Bloke and his dogs are currently with Sixer. The hot contractor is Matthias Schoenaerts. You’re welcome.

      • Dara says:

        Wait – what happened to Handyman Hunnam? I will admit that his carpentry skills weren’t quite up to the task of repairing the gazebo, but I’m all for giving the lad a second (or third, or fourth) chance to get it right. I’d hate to hurt his feelings by bringing in an outside guy at this point in the festivities.

      • Lilacflowers says:

        @Dara, Handyman Hunnam needed some help as he kept moping about, whining over 50 Shades and kept dropping tools on his feet. So, I brought in Matthias to supervise. Based on his role in Far from the Madding Crowd, Matthias has the handyman thing down.

      • TotallyBiased says:

        In the Hollywood Reporter video, Tom flat out says your ex-wife (or former wife) to Marc. Dum da dum dum!

  55. JANE says:

    Some of you are quite embarassing… the emotional reactions to him having a girlfriend is genuinely scary and some of the commentators like Beach Girl and Nutballs need to log off the internet quickly

    • DT says:

      This is a gossip thread where people can talk about whatever the hell they want, if you find it embarrassing stop reading it and log off the internet yourself!

    • NUTBALLS says:

      Bugger off. If you feel so strongly about people who are commenting on a GOSSIP SITE, then perhaps you shouldn’t click on any more Celebitchy posts. Your emotional reaction to the commentators is genuinely scary.

    • Catherine says:

      And yet you’re here, have read through the comments and felt the need to make that comment, projecting much?

    • Kate says:

      Hey JANE..

      Your last name wouldn’t happen to be Arthy, would it?
      ;)

    • TotallyBiased says:

      Hey now! I may vastly disagree on a number of things with my pal Nut balls, but will defend tooth, nail, and paint can their right to spout whatever nonsense they want about it. (Odd choice, too, as Nutty is not in fact a particularly over-the top emotionally poster by the standards of this site.)

    • Lilacflowers says:

      And this was the calmer thread. Does Jane not understand she is on a gossip site

      • madly says:

        Right? She should have been to a BC thread last year. Much, much worse.

      • f says:

        I honestly understand gossip but I have to agree. Tom Hiddleston and that cross breed Benedict Cumcumcakes bring out so much crazy that I can’t believe its the same women in other threads

  56. Miss Melissa says:

    Are people seriously debating the “truth” of celebrity public statements about their personal lives?

    Then I give you “there is nothing to write home about”… until I take her to Bora Bora 8 months from now.

    Accept it, you will never know what the truth is unless/until they want you to know.

    What Lizzy’s words and Tom’s silence are telling you, is that they don’t want you to know.

    • NUTBALLS says:

      Miss Melissa, bless you for your insight as an industry insider. I almost wrote that if they are “caught” vacationing in Bora Bora sometime in the next year, I will laugh my friggin’ ass off.

      Posters here were so quick to write off JA when Tom unfollowed her on Twitter the day after Wimbledon, but then the questionable pictures surfaced at the gift shop and after Coriolanus and voilà! he brings her to BB a year later.

      Some demand proof that neither of them are going to give unless they want people to know or get caught. Doesn’t mean nothing’s going on.

    • madly says:

      Oh, I’m sure she’s stretching the truth a bit. But that doesn’t mean that there is a meaningful relationship here. FWB or something like that, more likely.

      Or she is telling the truth, at the end of the day, we don’t know if those planted stories were actually true, just that someone had planted them.

    • Heather says:

      Tom has now also denied it. They have chosen the ‘let’s laugh this off’ route. Because it is one big joke,.. I see what you did there, Hiddleston! ;)

      • NUTBALLS says:

        These statements signal that they no longer need to keep the speculation going on their off-screen relationship. The pap walk served its purpose of getting people/media talking about them. Now that the buzz is killed for ISTL, that particular PR strategy isn’t going to serve any purpose. Best to shut it down.

  57. Portia says:

    If Elizabeth Olsen and Tom Hiddleston are dating, I don’t understand why Elizabeth would deny dating Tom and keep her distance from him yet show up hand in hand with Marc Abraham? Just because he’s older than her, no one wants to entertain the possibility of her dating Abraham? If anything, dating Abraham fits with the Olsen tradition more than dating Hiddleston. Tom’s too young for her if she’s the same mindset as her sisters haha lol

  58. Dara says:

    On to more important matters – Rodney will be in Toronto on Thursday for a concert with Emmylou. Do you suppose there’s a chance they might have a few surprise guests drop in for a song or two? Anyone know when THEO are leaving Toronto?

    Despite the reviews, I’m still really looking forward to ISTL – and I’m buying the soundtrack the second it hits iTunes or Amazon.

    • Lilacflowers says:

      I’ll be buying that soundtrack as well. I love Rodney’s work. When is Tom due at the next festival? I would love to see him perform with Emmylou, although the combined radiating beauty of those two on stage together might blot out the sun and stars.

      • Dara says:

        I think Tom is on the attendee list for San Sebastian, High-Rise screens there early next week. Also read he’s skipping Zurich later that same week, but that is unconfirmed. When is BFI in London -early October?

        There’s enough at TIFF to keep him occupied for a few more days. Jeremy Thomas is doing a Q&A tomorrow and there’s a big dinner honoring Jeremy Irons on Wednesday, and one more press screening of ISTL on Thursday (I think that one is still on the schedule, I’ll have to check). It’s probably wishful thinking on my part but it would be cool if Rodney and Tom could do a few interviews together.

      • TotallyBiased says:

        I’m basking in the reflected glow of just the IDEA!

      • NUTBALLS says:

        It would also be cool if Rodney and Tom would perform together. An Emmylou adds a little something to the alt-country sandwich, I’m ALL OVER THAT.

        We need Moar PuddleTom. I haven’t had my fill yet this week. More V-necks, more sweaters, more tight oxfords, more sexy brown shoes, more spectacles, more verbosity.

        I will be downloading the soundtrack when it’s released. Our fav Hank tunes are on our “going to school” mix. I don’t think my kids will have a problem upgrading to Tom’s voice. I know I won’t.

      • TotallyBiased says:

        Nutty, have you SEEN the Hollywood Reporter shoot? OMFL!

      • Dara says:

        I’m feeling a little hung-over from all the goodies this weekend tbh. I need time to recover before all the Crimson Peak stuff starts up. It’s going to be a riot to see Tom and Jessica blow the doors off the press tour.

        I love the caption on Josh Horowitz’s latest Instagram photo with Tom – “This is a photo of Tom Hiddleston explaining how @chastainiac doesn’t understand the bond we share.”

      • waitwhat says:

        Dara & Nutty – it’s well worth it. The opening Cold, Cold Heart is worth it on its own.

      • NUTBALLS says:

        TB, YEEEESSS!!! That one of him alone, looks like he’s totally checking you out. It gave me dirty thoughts.

    • Mary-Alice says:

      Not happening as things are now. If Rodney or Abraham get personal, may be but not as it is now. And with these ratings, I don’tt think even Abraham is so delusional to believe in joined performance wonder. P.S. High Rise is cancelled, not the most welcoming action but telling.

      On a second thought, Abraham is indeed delusional since he thought he would pull this off, so who knows what he has in his pocketses.

  59. Beach girl says:

    Collider.com just posted interview with Tom on SI and Thor 3. Haven’t read it yet

  60. Beach girl says:

    Yeah. He’s about interviewed out I think, although he still adds enthusiasm when he discusses a new project.

  61. erica says:

    First I’ve seen Tom talking about this……
    “We went out to dinner in London, and everybody [assumed],” says Hiddleston with a laugh. Mustn’t do that,”

    https://www.cineplex.com/News/Tom-Hiddleston-and-Elizabeth-Olsen-only-involved-on-screen?cmpid=TIFF_featured

    • Heather says:

      Someone get me smelling salts, he actually spoke up about it!

      So with two for two in denials, it’s time for US Weekly to plan something else for their girl. TH ain’t having any more of these shenanigans, and they’re running out of Avengers to pair EO up with.

      • Lilacflowers says:

        But they’re adding new Avengers almost monthly. She still hasn’t been linked with: RDJ; Mark Ruffalo; Don Cheadle; Paul Bettany: Chris Hemsworth or Aaron Taylor-Johnson; the supporting casts: Jon Favreau; Clark Gregg; Samuel L. Jackson; Idris Elba; Stanley Tucci; Toby Jones; newly divorced Zack Levi; Stellan Skaarsgaard; Tommy Lee Jones; William Hurt; Anthony Hopkins; Benecio del Toro; Chris Pratt; the new Avengers: Paul Rudd; Michael Douglas; Chadwick Boseman; Benedict Cumberbatch; or the other villians: Sam Rockwell; Mickey Rourke; Ben Kingsley; Guy Pierce; Jeff Bridges; Corey Stoll; Lee Pace. There’s just so much untapped opportunity for her.

      • Heather says:

        lol, oh my, that is quite an impressive list!

      • Lilacflowers says:

        @Heather, yes, the MCU has some serious talent some of whom are quite delectable.

    • NUTBALLS says:

      Oh Thomas. So much innocence in a industry of few coincidences.

      PS: You’d better keep any future dalliances with Lizzy under the radar from now on — no Bora Bora restaurant photos — or some of us will call you out on your PR SHENANIGANS.

    • Dara says:

      Does anyone remember the movie they did the chemistry read for? Tom says it was Unspoken, but the only one I found with that title doesn’t look like it’s the right one.

      @lilac – may I politely point out you’ve left Scarlett Johansson off you list. 😜 If we’re going after the craziest rumor possible, we may as well swing for the fences.

      • Lilacflowers says:

        I actually did consider adding her and Cobie Smulders and Evangeline Lily and Gwyneth and Natalie and Kat and Rene and Jamie (why are most of the Marvel women in the Thor franchise?) and Zoe and Karen and Ming Na Wen and Hayley but the list was getting really long.

      • P'enny says:

        a winters tale

  62. Maria A. says:

    Perhaps a re-edit might save the film?

  63. et alors says:

    My one regret over these denials from THEO is that Tom’s crazy “neighbor” has unprotected her Twitter account and is back to harassing and name-calling random people who dare to tweet benign comments about what a cute couple THEO make. I had taken her name off my Twitter search filter when she went underground after the July outings, but she’s back and raring to go.

    • Heather says:

      If you are referring to who i think you are referring to, she is no more his neighbour than I am Luke Windsor. Her twitter feed is horrendous. What a spiteful unhinged individual..

      Interestingly though, she can predict the future. We can expect “bigger gossips” in January! I wonder what it could be!

      *rolls eyes*

    • Catherine says:

      That applepie girl? Seriously unhinged, but this is going to happen, all those fans who couldn’t deal with this coupling now have their confirmation the whole pap/dinner evening was for pr, as far as they’re concerned.

  64. Roshan1000 says:

    Both OE and TH have said during TIFF that they are not dating

  65. Roshan1000 says:

    Both EO and TH have said they are not dating in an interview this weekend.

  66. erica says:

    Tom and Rodney Crowell in New York. September 15, 2015
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CPBzkmXVEAA_-Ww.jpg