Duchess Kate repeats a Tory Burch, ‘feels energized’ about mental health issues


Prince William and Duchess Kate were out and about on Saturday. First, they stopped by the charity event they scheduled several weeks ago. The charity is MIND’s Time to Change program, and their appearance was on behalf of World Mental Health Day. Since Kate’s maternity leave was completed (?), she and William have both been doing a little bit more work with mental-health-related charities. It’s their new thing. Are you wondering how long it lasts? Have no worries, because “sources” tell People Magazine that William and Kate are going to do SO MUCH MORE with this issue:

“There will be plenty more from both of them through the autumn over this issue,” a royal source tells PEOPLE. “The couple feel there is a real momentum building and people are ready to talk about it. They are feeling energized about it.”

[From People]

I’m tired of Poor Jason’s promises. Seriously, they’re going to be doing so much, you guys. You don’t even know. They promise to do more. They feel really energized about this issue right now, unlike the handful of half-hearted appearances they put in on other issues. This time is different, promise.

For the MIND appearance, Kate wore a repeat – we first saw this Tory Burch dress during one of their first events in New Zealand last year. She wore it when she and George did that playgroup event with New Zealand moms and babies. It was what she was wearing when George punched another baby in the face (LMAO). I don’t really have much to say about her look here – I thought this was a kind of boring dress last year and it’s a boring dress to repeat.

Oh, and in case you think all work and no fun makes the Cambridges so deliciously normal and middle class, of course they stepped out on Saturday night for a rugby game. Will and Kate cheered on Wales as they played Australia.





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  1. Lama Bean says:

    I’m amazed at how Kate and Pippa look a decade older than their actual age. They are both pretty women, but good gracious how much do you smoke?!?!?!?

    • InvaderTak says:

      I think a lot of Kate’s issue is her hair. That hair is awful.

      • imo says:

        How can you tell when she’s always wearing a wig or extensions? Her own has probably fallen out due to malnutrition.

      • Shambles says:

        The wiglet is reeeeeaaal

      • LAK says:

        What IMO said.

        The wiglet/extensions in the above pics is awesome.

      • Emily says:

        Not being contrary (because I have no idea either way), but I’ve never seen pictures of her smoking and I can’t tell that there’s a wig. How can you tell? Yes, I’m an amateur. 🙂

      • bluhare says:

        Whatever is on her head, I agree with the original poster. And I think malnutrition is a huge stretch.

      • Olenna says:

        Over-dieting can cause under-nutrition, which is a form of malnutrition. It can result in hair loss, low mood and ability to concentrate, and weak or decreased muscle mass. It can also affect one’s ability to breast feed. I’ve said before that I think Kate over-dieted after each pregnancy and did not allow her body a chance to recover after and between each child. Sooner or later, this quest to stay thin is going to take its toll on her physical well being and she may become the perfect candidate for the early onset of osteoporosis .

      • OhDear says:

        Or it could be post-partum hair loss.

      • M.A.F. says:

        What OhDear said. Postpartum hair loss can last for more than a year (and don’t compare post-pregnancy, everyone is different).

      • bluhare says:

        I still think malnutrition (or under nutrition) is a real stretch. She has muscle tone; there’s no muscle wasting. I personally think she looks better with some more weight on her, but I won’t go as far as some as it pertains to her diet.

      • candice says:

        olenna – well said and especially for pointing out the risk of osteoporosis. she is skin and bones and to the poster who said she’s got muscle – what little muscle is visible because there is virtually no fat on top of it as there is with most (healthy) people.

      • bluhare says:

        I’m the poster who said that, and say what you will about Kate, she is fit. Her mother in law is patron of the osteoporosis society, so I suspect she knows all about the risks. Which are lower in fit people.

        What do you guys think about Letizia’s body shape, seeing as we’re on that topic. Do you think she’s a healthy weight? I think she works out too; she’s got muscle tone, but many of the same people who can see no wrong with Letizia get all over Kate. My personal opinion is both of them could stand to put some weight on, but I would call neither malnourished.

      • Citresse says:

        I thought Kate really looked her best on the hospital steps with newborn Charlotte. Her face was fuller, softer. Her make up was lighter. Beautiful.

      • candice says:

        I guess different eyes see different things. Countless people have pointed out on this site and others how thin she is and I’m sure if we saw her in person it would be even more startling. When other aspects of her health become affected, maybe she’ll change her ways, who knows. Let’s leave it at that.

      • notasugarhere says:

        bluhare, they have different body types. Letizia is basically bird-boned, KM is medium to large boned. Letizia has always been this little. Her mother and two sisters (one unfortunately no longer with us) are built the same way. L also attended ballet school for years, which contributes to the wiry muscles.

        When you look at earlier pictures of KM, she clearly weighs much less now than when she was in college. The dramatic weight losses have occurred several times, often at times to gain or regain attention. Some of the photos of her at the rugby match the other night show legs like twigs, which is not how she is built naturally.

      • bluhare says:

        Big or small boned doesn’t have anything to do with how much fat is over them. I guess I don’t understand why everyone’s all over Kate yet not Letizia because she too is really thin. She had a media career before this; they’re all about weight onscreen. Ballet is all about your body type and your weight (with fabulous exception to the rule Misty Copeland notwithstanding!). So I think Letizia has been around that her entire adult life. Kate discovered it when she started seeing her photos splashed across the front page of the papers.

    • Iknowwhatboyslike says:

      Right!!!!! OMG, I they look as if they are hot 40 somethings. It could possibly be that Kate really needs at least 10 pounds on her body. The skinniness looks so unhealthy on her. Her present weight isn’t natural for her body.

    • mary says:

      I don’t know what makes her look older than she is, I’m not going to go there. She looks as if she’s in her 40s, though. She just looks old. Dunno why. Maybe it’s just her look.

  2. Natalie says:

    Lol, the third picture is Kate’s *learning* face.

    • Nic919 says:

      And sadly it looks pretty distracted and vacant. No spark there.
      I just can’t deal with how much she plays with her hair in public. Stop wearing it down and over your shoulders if you are going to play with it and push it back. This is something a 10 year old does.
      She really needs to cut about 4 to 6 inches from it, give up the extensions and start wearing it up because she doesn’t act professional with it down.

      • mary says:

        She probably plays with it because it’s fake. So pulling at it is an interesting sensation for her. When I had to get a veneer on a chipped tooth, I could not resist the urge to mess with it. I can’t have fake nails because I pick at them until they’re ruined. It’s an unfortunate nervous habit. She probably has social anxiety. She should really practice doing events, it’ll make it easier on her.

    • zinjojo says:

      Hahaha. Must look very serious, must look like I”m paying attention.

      As opposed to the maniacally grinning face that she seems to have adopted over the past several months. What’s that one, the “I’ll frenetically grin because I don’t know how to do anything else”?

    • Camilla L-M says:

      She looks like Sue Ellen in the 3rd pic.

    • Feeshalori says:

      I’m curious if now there will be a concerted effort to increase their appearances, but once again I’m withholding judgment until they do this on a consistent and steady level. It would be good to see them feeling energized in putting their noses to the grindstone and work.

      And that Sue Ellen link is really funny. I remember watching “Dallas” religiously as well.

    • antipodean says:

      Again with the Cambridge Clutch Pose. This is getting beyond ridiculous.

  3. Iknowwhatboyslike says:

    Is Kate wearing the wiglet? The sides of her hair looks extra poofy.

  4. imo says:

    Her grinning and laughing (at the Mental Health visit – not the game) are way ott and inappropriate and – if this is possible – she looks even scrawnier than her last outing. She’s going to waste away if she keeps this up. I just don’t her minders and the rest of the royals can let this go on without some kind of an intervention – isn’t that what most families would do?

    Oh yeah, we’re talking about the Windsors…

    • Pipa says:

      Spot on

      This is suppose to be a very serious illness /charity meet greet ‘focus’, yet both workless (secret hidden royals) seem unable to give proper royal representation.

      A royal with no respect for his position or the charity/professionals appear without a jacket (in his causal wear uniform); she- dress/attire cost hundreds and the security clutch.

      Both look better dressed, more interested, happier away from the kids for hours (hands on parents they are), at the rugby games than a few minutes attention to the people/ Charities meet greet.

      Princess Sofia, Sweden (commoner until a few months ago) is a much better royal representing/with her people.

    • GoodNamesAllTaken says:

      I don’t really think it’s fair to criticize someone for smiling and laughing while attending a serious event without knowing the context. Someone probably made a joke. People laugh at funerals.

      As for his family intervening to help her if she has an eating issue, I agree don’t hold your breath.

      • Suze says:

        I think the photos that the media chooses/releases tend to those of her smiling and laughing, due to several factors. She does look “prettier” when she smiles, to the general public that is her signature, and also, there is a general trend these days to very smiley photos of anyone in the public eye – for some reason a solemn photo doesn’t sell well.

        So not knowing the context it’s hard to criticize her here.

        I sound like a Kate apologist – hehe.

      • FLORC says:

        I’m there with you. Its all in context.

        She’s working. Lets just wait and see if they putter outpost vacations.

      • Maia says:

        “Working” ? 2 engagements in October and how many, – 3 or 4 rugby games? But I guess this classifies as “working” for the dear ducchess. Such is what we have been reduced to.

      • M.A.F. says:

        Don’t apologize Suze. Every time I read the comments here when there is a post about her, sometimes I feel just like to make a mountain out of mole hill.

        That being said, I looked at that photo. Why does one side of her hair look green/grey?

      • Citresse says:

        It could be just the lighting. It may also be the fact she’s bringing George to the BP swimming pool or the result of using their own pool at Amner. Chlorine can do a real number on coloured hair.

      • GoodNamesAllTaken says:

        Agree Suze, and I’m not a Kate apologist either.

    • antipodean says:

      Is that a canoe in his trousers? Talk about ill-fitting!

      • mary says:

        antipodean, because of you, I now know waaaay more than I thought possible about Prince William’s stick and stones. Thank you for that. Thank you very much. 😉

        ETA: no, I would NOT bother to hit it…

  5. Olenna says:

    All. That. Hair. I’m sorry, but It just can’t be all hers. With her being thin as a rail, its volume is giving her a bobble head effect.

  6. aussie says:

    the reason why they where doing “so” much is because it was mental health awareness week, so of course they had to show to something.

  7. Sixer says:

    I’m feeling particularly snippy today. I also keep thinking that we all on this site pick apart language way too much. So I’m going to pick apart language way too much because I’m a hypocrite.

    What is it that is making me feel uncomfortable with painting a picture of Katie Bucket and the Heir to the Heir feeling “energised” about this topic? There’s something wrong with that. But I can’t put my finger on it. Is it me being my usual negative Nelly self? Or not?

    • MinnFinn says:

      That use of energise/energize (in American) bothered me too. Jason needs to put away his Thesaurus and go back to their standby “The Duchess is very keen_____”….. you know fill in the blank.

    • Zapp Brannigan says:

      The use of “energised” implies motion and activity something neither Will or Kate are familiar with. I think it also unwittingly reveals everything about this duo, they are only interested in what showing up at the charity events can do for them.

      So when is the next holiday?
      (obviously I am in grump mode today)

      • Pondering thoughts says:

        I found the use of the word “energised” a bit odd. I would understand “concerned” or “interested” or “inspired”. But “energised”?
        Is it energising to talk about mental health issues? I find light conversations and jokes “energising”. Serious medical issues aren’t “energising”.

        Oh dear.

    • Lucrezia says:

      I was also giving “energized” the side-eye. I think it’s fair game since it’s a PR “source”.

      The dictionary is telling me motivated is a synonym for “energised”, but I’ve usually heard it used to mean excited/re-vitalised. Compare “there was a tragedy and I was excited to help out” and “there was a tragedy and I was motivated to help out”. The first version kind of sounds like you’re happy about the tragedy.

      Motivated, driven or inspired would’ve worked better.

      • Citresse says:

        Energised in that it indirectly keeps the memory of Diana alive. You see, this focus on mental health issues reminds us of Diana’s struggles. Energised is linked to the word excitement I suppose. And remember William informed us he wanted to give Kate his mother’s engagement ring as a way to keep Diana close to all the excitement.

      • Sixer says:

        Exactly. You don’t expect to come out of a visit to a mental health charity feeling energised, FFS. Motivated? Yes. Energised? Jebus.

    • kath says:

      Energised…..by other people’s problems? That’s a bit warped, although Kate certainly looks like she is being entertained in several shots where she is showing her trademark maniacal grin.

      Energised in anticipation about getting to work and actually doing something about Mental Health? These 2? Fat chance. (sorry, Kate, poor choice of words).

      Sorry Sixer, I can’t come up with a logical reason why the word energised would be used here.

    • Shambles says:

      “Energized” seemed like the wrong word for mental health issues to me too, Sixer. It feels off. I think it’s because one of the first mental illnesses that comes to my mind when discussing such things is depression, and apathy/severe lack of energy is a trademark of depression. I’m over-analyzing the hell out of this, I know, but reads like… “We’re feelings so ENERGIZED as we deign to interact with the peasants and their silly lack of energy.” Snobby assholes are snobby assholes.

      ETA: Kath said it perfectly above. It seems gross to be energized by other people’s problems.

    • Sixer says:

      It gave me a flood of “jolly hockey sticks” and “fresh air and exercise” vibes, you know?

      Just the wrong feel when we’re talking about mental ill health. Not that I think we should all be sonorous and sombre on this topic or that advocating for it should be all about darkness – but to declare yourself all jolly and bouncy because you’re going to do five minutes-worth of work raising awareness about tackling the misery and stigma brought by mental ill health? It just doesn’t strike a good note for me.

      Either that, or I’m just a STABBY person!

      • ArtHistorian says:

        “Energized” is just the wrong word in this context. As someone whose mother suffers from severe mentall illness and who has battled depression for most of my adult life, this choice of word REALLY rubs me the wrong way – to the point that I almost find it actively offensive!!!!

        “Energized” doesn’t really connote a serious interest in the issue. IMO, this is not nit-picking. The choice of words matter when it comes to communication, maybe doubly so when it comes to PR. This is a PR fail – the message simply comes off “wrong” in relation to the issue at hand. Context matters!

      • Sixer says:

        Thank you. (And everyone else). It’s not just me, then!

        ArtHistorian, I’ve been waiting for you to show up. Simon Schama’s just done a new documentary series for the BBC on portraiture. The first episode was on power and I think it would interest you. Lots of royal stuff in there.


      • FLORC says:

        Completely with you all. Energised is the wrong word to use in this.
        Also, I’ll believe it when I see it. Time after time it’s the same routine. If they keep it up OK. I’m not counting these chickens just yet.

        And another point where their PR digs them into an unnecessary hole their actions can’t climb out of.

      • ArtHistorian says:


        Thanks for the link! I quite liked his program series about the history of Britain and he has, if I remember correctly, written an acclaimed book about Dutch 17th century art.

        The art of portraiture is fascinating – art and power have been inextricably linked since Roman empire – especially when it comes to portraiture. I’m looking forward to seeing it. Love that type of TV. Saw a program on women in space recently. it was fascinating!

      • Sixer says:

        ArtHistorian – Oh, watch the whole thing, then! I will be. You’ll love it! First one was all about power, so there was plenty of royal stuff in there. But the second one featured commoners and was super. Early photographs, moving portraits of soldiers from WWI who underwent some of the first plastic surgery and… the SINGH TWINS. I love them!

    • Nic919 says:

      They shouldn’t have to feel energized to attend a mental health event. It is their job to energize others about supporting this issue. But of course as is usual with these two, it is all about how they feel and not about raising awareness.

      Also a bad choice because it implies they aren’t as enthused about their other issues. Whatever those may be.

    • zinjojo says:

      This word struck me as odd too when I read the post, especially in context with mental health. And from the number of replies to you Sixer, I think it hit a number of us as incorrect usage. The right word is motivated. But these two and poor Jason (perhaps more like “in over his head Jason”) just can’t get it right.

      They’re on a perpetual learning curve because they don’t stick with anything long enough to become proficient in the subject matter, so they have to keep telling us that this time it’s different, this time we’re really into it. I guess time will tell, but I’m certainly not holding my breath.

      And I’m definitely grumpy this morning. Broke my elbow on a business trip this past week, stuck it out through Thursday and so glad to be home, but still kinda cranky.

    • Suze says:

      Personally, I am waiting on Step Two.

      If there is a Step Two, then I will tackle the “energy” issue.

      I have yet to see Step Two from this duo.

      • zinjojo says:

        Suze, you’re right. There’s never anything beyond “learning about it” whatever the “it” may be at that particular time.

    • Betti says:

      I agree with everyone else that ‘energised’ is the wrong word not only to describe these 2 but the issue of mental health – i was particularly offended by this comment “The couple feel there is a real momentum building and people are ready to talk about it.’ – people have been ‘ready’ to talk about it for a long time. Stop making it look like they are single handly bringing it into the spotlight with their half arsed attempts.

      PS the looked more ‘energised’ at the rugby event than bringing the spotlight onto mental health.

      These 2 have a LOOOOOONG way to go to turn their terrible image around.

    • Cricket says:

      Totally agree on word choice. I immediately thought it sounded a bit condescending and considering Kate is nothing more than her appearance a very poor choice indeed. Energized in that Kate is learning from this and identifying her own issues?

      • mary says:

        Let’s hope she’s learning about her own issues (I believe she has some). Many mental illnesses can be moderated with appropriate care.

    • Who ARE these people? says:

      Me too. It’s like a Freudian slip, like #poorJason has been scrambling to find anything that would motivate her/them to show up and seem interested. And, as if it’s the responsibility of any given charity or cause to make her/them “energized” (happy, motivated, WORTH CARING ABOUT). Thanks, Mentally Ill People for helping Duchess Kate get psyched!

    • anne_000 says:

      Is “energised” playing to the gossip that it’s hard for Kate to end her maternity leave within a year after her alleged HG, rumored PPD, and the harsh consequences of giving birth, and how strenuous it is for Normal Bill to do extra work on top of his copter one? Does it relate to the recent PR story that they have to travel so much to do work? That it’s been a strain traveling from Norfolk to London to the airport that the EAAA uses and with two kids on top of all of this just to do ‘royal’ work?

      That they’ve always been “motivated, driven. and inspired” to work, but it was just a matter of getting physically and mentally ‘energised?’ Because living their lives already take so much energy from them that it takes that much more energy to do any noblesse oblige? We should all be appreciative of their dedication which is obviously more (sarcasm) than what normal, middle class folk have?

      • Dena says:

        Being energized implies that they are not only doing something about the issue but that the issue also fuels their passion but their passion too do more . . . about this issue as well as others. As they give, it gives to them. It’s a full circle (and closed circuit) of action & reciprocity.

      • Dena says:

        Although we know that for W & K their energy is spent avoiding & dodging & doing run-ups like this so that they can cruise I to vaca mode w/o having to suffer the criticism of being lazy over-privileged underachievers.

    • Vava says:

      I wasn’t quite sure what it was about their participation in this event that rubbed me the wrong way, but I think you found it, or at least part of it. Being ‘energized’ about this topic is offensive.

      There’s also something about these two that just doesn’t work with this issue of mental health. I guess I don’t picture either of them being appropriate ambassadors for such a subject – unless they would truly speak from the heart and somehow connect with people with sincerity. That’s not going to happen! They are just playing lip service, doing a pap stroll, and nothing else. They are just getting their statistics up so they can go on vacation.

      I know the photos may be misleading, but really Kate needs to get a grip with all these over-the-top facial expressions, and William needs to do something too. Like get a new pair of pants that don’t give him a wedgie. The two of them are making a visual impact, and it isn’t a good one.

      Kate’s quotes that day, didn’t help either. She said nothing at all meaningful. I really don’t think William did either. They just aren’t well suited to this issue, someone more compassionate and open would be better. (Harry comes to mind.) It is an important issue, but these two are not the ones to trot out. I really don’t know why, but I think they are quite patronizing and they offend me.

  8. Citresse says:

    Is that some grey hair I see on William?

  9. Sunsetsnow says:

    I need a Max, Sofia, Mary, Letizia, or Victoria palate cleanse. The Duchess could care less about mental health. You are fooling no one.

    • ArtHistorian says:

      Princess Madeleine’s little boy was christened yesterday – to loud wailing! He most definitely didn’t appreciate getting water on his forehead.

      Pics can be seen here: http://katemiddletonreview.com/2015/10/11/prince-nicolas-of-swedens-christening/

      Looks like Leonore is still a squirmy little toddler + Estelle is just totally adorbs beside her pregnant mother, CP Victoria, whose channeling the 60s in a smart purple day dress and pillbox hat.

      The new princess Sofia also wears a lovely dress but ruins the look with a weird bow-fascinator on loose hair. I really don’t like fascinators but if you wear one, your hair should be up – otherwise it just looks sloppy. And bows should not be worn in the hair but grown women, period!

      • Cricket says:

        has it been announced when CP Victoria’s due date is? It will be fun to have another baby watch. Estelle is totally adorable!

      • notasugarhere says:

        Madeleine’s Valentino was lovely, and I was very glad she had it lengthened. The gold color went well with the vestments for the ministers. I couldn’t figure out why she had that color fascinator on until I finally saw the hem of the dress.

        Victoria was great in purple but IMO it was a little short once she sat down. Sofia’s dress just didn’t fit very well. Too tight in some places, bunching up in others, solid corset line showing, and I agree the bow was bad. Estelle’s Marie Chantal coat was very cute and she did a good job trying to keep Leonore under control.

        Cricket, I think they said she was due in March.

  10. sally says:

    I like the dress. It’s the least boring dress I’ve seen in a while. I’m so over her mundane coat dresses.

  11. Citresse says:

    If you review the engagement interview you’ll see how Kate has aged. The hair hasn’t aged well either.
    As for the big smiles, I hope Kate delayed them until the end of the charity engagement. I mean, how strange would it be to sit there with a huge grin while listening to stories of young individuals attempting to end their lives.

    • wolfie says:

      To see some really silly faces of the duchess at this charity engagement see the DK site – http://hrhduchesskate.blogspot.com/

      • Feeshalori says:

        You know, I have such an expressive face myself so don’t mind Kate’s expressions at a sports function when you’re relaxed and can really get caught up in the moment. I could just see me pulling these faces. It’s only questionable when this occurs at inappropriate times such as Remembrance Day and other solemn events.

  12. RH says:

    I guess I’m in the minority, I really like her and think she’s pretty. I also believe she tries her best and is a good person. It has to be a lot of pressure being in that kind of spotlight.

    • Nic919 says:

      How can you know if she is a good person? Unless you know her personally you are simply projecting prettiness and a few smiles for the camera into meaning she is a good person.

      • kat says:

        I find this an interesting comment. I’m not particularly pro or anti, but have been surprised at the descent of the comments section into anti this year.

        Isn’t the argument reversable? i.e. How can you know if she is not a good person? Unless you know her personally you are simply projecting {insert perceived negative attribute #1} and {#2} into meaning she is not a good person.

        And on a separate note, what’s with all the complexion shaming? Sheesh, so she has some wrinkles and you don’t like her skin tone. She doesn’t look as she should in your book. I’d hate for you all to see my 40+ acne and wrinkles?

      • FLORC says:


        Stories have circulated for some time Kate isn’t too nice, but no further than the context of most girls. The mean quality coming from maybe low self confidence? Stories of her being friendly to shopkeepers, yes. Being friendly in a friend sense or social setting? Less so. Lieading a cousin to attempt a defense that she isn’t “mean”, but has a tough time caring about what someone else has to say when it doesn’t concern her.

        And the wrinkle talk comes in less to attack and more to point out she has them. For years her wrinkles were airbrushed out and her forehead is motionless. Leading the portrait and several less edited pictures of her to be seen in large contrast to that altered image.

        Personally, Her wrinkles are fine. We all get them. I don’t think it’s an issue, but i’m not blind to the fact she has wrinkles in some photos and a smooth, iced over look in another.

      • M.A.F. says:

        Lately there has been a lot of people attacking her for the way she looks. So the f**k what if she has hair extensions or is skinnier than normal. People hate the Diana compassion but that woman too was dragged through the media for the way she looks and she was always being photograph at the gym and the talk of this and that diet. It is the same way with actresses- have baby then is expected to be back in tip-top shape. If the Kate was over weight or even if she gain 15 pounds people would be calling her fat. She can’t win and yet everyone wants to compare her & the British monarchy to the other monarchies. Could she do more work (whatever work is for royals)? Sure but what the hell does her body have to do with anything?

        I have no horse in this race (even if it does come across that way) and it’s one thing to talk about her clothes but the body shaming (yes, I’m using that phrase) is ridiculous.

    • Suze says:

      I am glad Kate supporters still show up here. It takes some courage, I think.

      FWIW, I think Kate is probably decent on a personal level. I don’t know why I think that, but it’s my gut. She is probably polite and congenial.

      I don’t think that translates into an energetic public service role.

      • Maia says:

        I agree with you Suze. I think that she is nice, sweet, personable but probably not a very thoughtful person, in the sense – I don’t think that she wakes up each day and spends the first half hour poring over the Guardian or the Telegraph. I don’t that William does either. I think that they enjoy life, are happy but live in a bubble. They watch soaps and other evening shows on TV (by their own admission), but how many of you want to bet that the news is rarely on in their household ?

      • FLORC says:

        lol Suze!
        Sometimes they just outnumber us all. Same for the other side. Recently balance has come back which is nice.

    • MrsB says:

      I don’t think her personality is well suited for her role and I wonder if she suffers from anxiety. She seems uncomfortable in front of the camera.

      But, I actually do think she is probably a nice person. A lot of the criticism of her is so OTT and mean.

      • notasugarhere says:

        She doesn’t show anxiety when she’s meeting Ben Ainslie or hanging out in Hollywood. IMO the “anxiety” is made up and used as an excuse by some for her awkward behavior at serious events.

      • Suze says:

        I agree with you, although there are those who would argue strenuously against it, pointing to her confident carefree girlfriend days. At one time she had her share of get and go, and didn’t seem particularly fazed by paps and cameras.

        I do think something has changed. I chalk it up to the lack of homework she did on the role of consort. Sounds absurd, given the amount of time she spent as the royal girlfriend, but I really don’t think she thought through past getting the ring – or miscalculated what it all meant. My gut (again!) is telling me that Carole is propping up Kate constantly.

      • Susan says:

        I’ve always been a Kate fan…but honestly lately she’s seemed quite “off.” Weird smiles, reclusive behavior, curious hair issues….I don’t understand. When I look back at the wedding, engagement, Canadian tour, etc., it was only a few short years ago but it might as well be a different person. I too have two small children similar in age (and age gap) and while it does tire me…I definitely don’t have the help she does either. I like to think I still have my core personality and for lack of a better term soul. To me she looks dead in the eyes.

      • Citresse says:

        I don’t know. Sometimes a smile can hide a lot of anxiety.
        And Princess Charlotte is only five months old. It can take a full year for some to really recover from pregnancy and childbirth. If Kate has a history of anxiety, it may have worsened post pregnancy.

      • notasugarhere says:

        The new housekeeper and groundsman left after 5 months. That was a BIG career move for those two, and after 5 months they went back to working for HM? I don’t think that indicates that these two are easy to live with or work for. Stories through the years indicate they’re both tetchy, not even-keel types.

        I don’t remember reading anything about anxiety for her for over a decade. Not until complaints about her lack of work got louder and suddenly some people think she has anxiety or PPD.

      • OhDear says:

        I feel bad for her even though I think she should be doing more in her role/position. It seems like she’s always been the tool for someone else’s interests (e.g. her parents in social climbing, WIlliam’s man-childing); the people closest to her seem to only care about their own interests, usually at the expense of hers. My guess is that to some extent she’s aware of this.

      • Betti says:

        @Suze – yes its pretty obvs that Carole is propping her up as I don’t think any of them planned past getting the ring. I think in their arrogance they thought she’d coast by on the Diana goodwill as she married his son – but they have squandered that and I think they are still arrogant in that they can’t see how much of an issue their image has become.

        Kate may not have prepared for the role she spent 10 years chasing but she’s had 4 years of marriage to learn on the job and shadow The Queen , none of which she is doing. She’s not learning from the people she needs to – instead she would rather do whatever her husband tell her to.

      • Mitchie says:

        I can certainly understand why she’s uncomfortable in front of cameras. It seems every picture, any event she attends, she picked apart. She can do no right. If it were me, I certainly wouldn’t want to leave the house. Diana had an eating disorder due to similar reasons. Would it be shocking if Kate developed an eating disorder as well. It’s a coping mechanism. It’s a way of her having some control over life. And I know from experience that with an eating disorder, causes more emotional weakness. You can’t win…either you’re too skinny or fat, your complexion is bad and your hair is brittle. In my case it was falling out. I won’t even get into the depression that comes with it.

        I remember those heart breaking moments when Diana was visibly crying at events. Is this what we want for Kate?

      • Maia says:

        She may be confident in general but not confident at engagements. So to elucidate: I work in a profession where I spend a great deal of time thinking and speaking in front of people about my thoughts. That’s pretty much all I do. I am considered to be an expert on a few things. I speak well and am very confident in job. I exude authority in what I do.
        If someone put me in an environment where I am not the expert, I would probably not appear as confident. For example, if someone took me and put me in an advisory role for the government today where I meet senior people of the state, you can bet that it might take me a few months to appear as confident and authoritative as I normally do at my job.
        I think that it’s the same thing for Kate. Kate is nice, beautiful, was raised with high self-esteem. She thrived as a child and teenager. She dated one of the world’s most eligible bachelors in her twenties. She is utterly at ease in her role *within her narrow little circle*. However, when she is going to meet with people who actually DO stuff, or LEARN or READ or THINK for a living.. such as the Women in Hedge Funds, obviously she understands that she is lacking. All her life her identity has been sport, prettiness, niceness .. and intangibles like that. She has not actually ever been asked to DO anything. Or write anything. Or research anything. Or make an informed opinion on anything.
        She is smart enough to know that she would be out of her depth in many many scenarios in this world. That shows in her engagements. I think that not letting her work in her twenties was a *huge* disservice her parents did her. They should have *insisted* that she work in an art gallery or something.

      • bluhare says:

        I couldn’t agree with you more, Maia.

      • Suze says:

        @Maia – that is a nuanced analysis and I think it might hit close to the mark.

        Like I said, rightly or wrongly, my gut says Kate is perfectly pleasant and polite, and I don’t think she’s stupid. She’s certainly attractive and remains a popular figure for the most part. She should be a stellar royal.

        But – she doesn’t do well at her official duties, and actually seems to be regressing. For example, Princess Sofia over in Sweden has already traveled on her own and delivered a serious speech, and you hear such royal “Lightweights*” as Mette-Marit and Letizia give articulate speeches all the time.

        You never hear Kate speak any more. Not at all. Ever. No official speeches, no quick sound bites, nothing. She gave a few speeches early on, wasn’t great, and seems to have given up. It’s odd and leads me to believe she is experiencing some kind of severe anxiety, or that someone has put the breaks on that type of activity.

        And you can’t keep trotting out the “she’s new, she’s learning” response. Or say that everyone else has so much more experience of course they are better. She’s going on five years of royal life. At any other job she’d be fired by now.

        *Lightweights – in some people’s eyes. I personally don’t agree.

      • Cricket says:

        From what I’ve read about Diana, her eating disorder was blamed in part of her never feeling good enough in her role from feedback from the RF and not feeling loved by Charles. Diana was aware of Charles’s relationship with Camilla before the wedding and tried to back out before the wedding – she even searched the crowd to see Camilla there in the pews. Diana also was said to have been crying because of her relationship with Charles and the RF and feeling isolated. In an interview she gave herself, Diana said that she was treated very well as a guest but once she became part of the RF that changed and they treated her differently – poorly.

        I don’t think anyone on this board wishes Kate any harm nor wants to see her suffer in any capacity. What they are speaking of in criticizing her is that – unlike Diana – she was not a naive 19 yr old nor was her relationship with her now husband based on a dozen ‘dates’ and no alone time to know the character well before she said ‘I do’. Kate went in with her eyes open – as William stated in the engagement interview, he wanted to give her plenty of time to back out if she saw fit. She wanted this role and all that entailed. Based on the history of Diana, she knew marrying her son, she would be center of media attention and be compared, etc.. Her chosen way of handling this by being idle and hidden away in her palaces is what drives her criticism. She shows no attempt of even trying to do anything that does not interest her.

      • FLORC says:

        Lot of assumption here. We can only go off of what we see. Not what we think we can relate to or assume.

        If her smiles look weird imo it’s the botox. And her hideaway nature has been a constant. Just not called out in the press as “relusive”.
        She only ever seems to step out when it’s fun or casual. When it is her having to absorb information or speak about something she’s possibly unfamiliar with we see her get flustered. Outside of that there’s minimal anxiety if anything at all.
        and based on what we can know from history and information that has come out from that Maia’s post seems perfectly stated.

      • Nic919 says:

        Maia: the key word in your argument is that you work. Kate has never really held a job and had to deal with people other than her family or her boyfriend. When you have to take orders from people who aren’t your family and are not going to give you breaks because of it, you either step up or change jobs. It is a normal part of the maturing process in any modern adult. Kate has never developed as a normal adult and so she can’t really understand women who have worked. She can’t even claim being involved in a long term hobby, like being a musician or being an athlete. Her stunted emotional development is probably why she can’t really interact with people and she has no intellectual curiosity to try to prove herself.

    • bluhare says:

      I agree with you to a point. She is pretty, no question about that, and I bet she’s a nice person. Most of us are.

      But I don’t really care about those things. She could be the loveliest person in the world, but for my taste if this is her best, it’s lacking. Going out for 90 minutes once or twice a month, waving, taking flowers from small children, entering a building and then leaving doesn’t hit my “best”. That’s why I criticise her, although I admit I have way too much fun in the Wiglet Wagon with FLORC!

      • Maia says:

        I agree with you bluhare. The main problem I have with her is her lack of interest and what I perceive to be her lack of seriousness about her role. She is just a shallow little rich girl. Well, why should a shallow little rich girl get to have the platform she has, when many people have been slaving in the background to be able to have an impact in their field? It disappoints me.

        I have also been watching with great interest the Ducchess Kate blog and how they are all fawning over her again, now that she has shown her beautiful face to them all of *twice* in a month for engagements (and several times for rugby). Public opinion is finicky and people don’t always think very analytically. Now they are all about how she is working and bringing attention to a great “issue”… and so everything is alright again in their world. Very funny. It’s ultimately about showing her face. If she appeared even on pap shots a few times a month I bet most of her critics would just shut up. They don’t *really* care about what she does.

      • Suze says:

        @Maia – yes, I am agreeing with you all over the place today!

        Kate doesn’t have to be a hard worker or wildly intuitive at her role. She only has to maintain a moderate working schedule and say one or two on point things and the world would once again shriek and swoon at her feet.

        It’s not hard and the fact she doesn’t do it is fascinating.

      • bluhare says:

        Maia, I totally agree with you again! If I were her, I actually *would* be energized over that I could accomplish. Lord, it blows my mind.

        Look at Sophie the other day. She was out at a new patronage because of Louise’s eye condition. She didn’t just go in, take flowers, and wave at people — although she did do all those things — she actually said something about it. Granted, she’s probably very well read on it as a result of Louise’s condition. And I actually learnt one reason which would have caused my amblyopia!

        Why Kate doesn’t involve herself in an organization that works with HG is beyond me. You’d think she’d be able to speak very personally and eloquently about it, and do such a service for women who have that — who are told to get on with it it’s just morning sickness!

      • Maia says:

        Well, the three of us (Suze and bluhare) should make our own Mutual Agreement Corner here on CB. lol !
        I think that she does not involve herself in HG is because I suspect that she did not actually *have* HG. From what I have seen the actual condition is 1000 times more vicious than what she seemed to have gone through. Many women have severe morning sickness and have to take Zofran. I think that is what she ended up having.
        About speaking in public: the things she says are simply not very well-thought out at all. Here is an example that made me want to faceplant my keyboard:
        “I keep thinking about what else we can do and how we can raise awareness. Keep the ideas coming. We think it’s so important, so really well done for being ambassadors. Talking about mental health is so important.”

        I mean, seriously. She is asking patients to come up with ideas. As if she does not have *scores* of people the RF employ to do precisely that. She need not look further than the Prince’s Trust that has been successful in raising awareness and funds for myriads of issues.
        On top of that the little blurb on “We think it’s so important, so really well done for being ambassadors. Talking about mental health is so important.” sounds a bit patronising to me. Not to mention so bloody completely unimaginative. So all we get are quotes like this, and some banter between her and William.

        My point is: if this is what she comes up with on these engagements then I can see why her spin-doctor may want to clamp her up. She does not add *anything* to any conversation from what I can see. For years now she has been “learning”. I think that is her comfort zone. She can’t progress beyond that. That is why she has regressed – as Suze said.

      • FLORC says:

        The Wiglet Wagon is outragous FUN!

        And add me to the agreement corner. You 3 are saying it all today.

      • Mitchie says:

        @ Cricket
        Diana’s eating disorder started before she married Charles. Comments about her weight pretty much started when they became engaged. Diana never felt good enough, since feeling abandoned by her mother. Charles only exasperated those feelings.
        None of us can know what it’s like. I feel like her mother fed her a bunch of dreams without anyone drumming into her head about the cons. We don’t know. It’s very easy to get caught up in the whirlwind. I know that no one on this board wants her harmed. I was giving my perspective. I’m sorry if it’s the wrong one.

        To any Canadians who may be celebrating today…Happy Thanksgiving!

      • M.A.F. says:

        I’ve never understood why she doesn’t do more with sports. She is athletic and there so much more she could be doing with sports education especially now that she has a daughter. And the military. Both her husband and brother-in-law were/are in the military, she could be doing stuff with the families of service men/women.

  13. The Original Mia says:

    The wiglet was strong at this event. Like a small motorcycle helmet. I love the phrasing “they were energized about mental health issues”. Please. They are energized about sports, celebrity outings, and vacations. They are just playing at caring until they can safely escape to the beach.

    • zinjojo says:

      “Like a small motorcycle helmet”. That’s perfect.

      And agree with the rest of your statement too.

  14. Krishan says:

    That hair is out to ruin anything she wears. It just looks so badly cut and poorly styled. The dress would’ve been ok if she had a simple chignon or her hair was half-up and off her face. The dress is more on the staid, business casual side so big, loose hair doesn’t go well with it.

    But she’s hopeless and has zero gravitas and is almost always drowned out by her clothes and hair, so…this is a normal outing for her.

    • kath says:

      LOL – it’s a wig.

    • Cricket says:

      I think her hair has just progressively gotten worse since she changed stylists and left the guy in Chelsea for the lady who used to cut Diana’s and the boys hair. Is there nothing of uniqueness of Kate? Everything she does is related back to Diana, if this is bc of William than William needs some serious mental health help himself.

      • LAK says:

        In one of the recent articles criticising them, there was a throwaway sentence that Kate is finding it increasingly hard to acquiesce to William’s Diana obsession. There was a lot to comment absorb from all those articles, but that one sentence explained all the Diana coincidences and efforts to invoke her memory. It isn’t just the public making associations, Kate is actively playing the Diana card for William.

      • Betti says:

        Not just for William but for her own image – she’s tried (and failing) to set herself up as the next ‘People’s Princess’ as she married the first one’s son. Part of the PR campaign that she’s been running for years. Cashing in on the Diana goodwill.

      • Cricket says:

        LAK, it’s almost as if William is in an arrested development from when he lost his mom.. at least seems reasonable.

        I know from losing someone close to me tragically from a car accident related to drunk driving and on Christmas Eve no less, it really still haunts me 20 years later. It’s hard to move past things. I used to dread Christmas and having any fun and looking forward to celebrating it bc I was always waiting for a tragedy to arrive. I’ve read that William was arguing and not speaking with his mom at the time of the accident bc of her behavior with Dodi. If there is any truth to that, I can completely understand William’s issues with his paranoia and his relationship with is family now. Like he’s trying to fix what happened to his mom by recreating her in Kate. God, if that’s the case, I truly feel sorry for all four of them!

      • bluhare says:

        I agree with you, Cricket. I’ve thought that about William for a long time.

      • FLORC says:

        That’s awful. And I agree. It takes a lot for some people to pull themselves out of such a crushing blow of losing a loved one or parent as a child, but you have to climb back out.
        If you’re extra insulated why even bother? It seems reasonable this would be the case.

      • LAK says:

        Cricket: it’s funny you should say that vis a vis WK because whilst watching the engagement conference, and later leafing through the commemoration booklet, and even later during the wedding, I had such a strong sense of William’s Diana obsession. I remember feeling pity for Kate because everything seemed to be a celebration of Diana and William. Kate was an afterthought.

        The wedding had so many Diana touches, much like the christening, but I guess people were focusing so much on Kate that they didn’t pick up on the myriad Diana references.

        I remember thinking during the first year of their marriage that William’s attitude towards Kate seemed to be a do-over or unfinished business with Diana and that Kate used that to get him to pay attention to her.

        And yes, the last conversation he had with Diana was an argument about her behaviour with Dodi and their teasing the paps thus creating a circus.

      • Vava says:

        My impression is that William indeed needs some counseling. That’s just one reason why I get this vibe that the Cambridges are patronizing us with their fluff involvement in this topic. William shows all sorts of strange behaviors and it’s not getting better, it’s getting worse.

    • bluhare says:

      The fringe/bangs are horrible. They look like a wad on the side of her head and have just given her one more thing to play with,

  15. bellebottomblues says:

    I guess everybody ages differently..some people look young forever and then overnight they age 20 years. My mom referrred to it as
    “_your face falling in the sink” lmao.
    She is a pretty woman but guess her main priority is her figure. To the detriment of her looks. The weight loss sharpens her features and ages her. We all lose fat under our skin as we get older, but she’s doing it purposefully.
    I read somewhere that we have a picture in our mind of how we want to look and maybe that’s hers. Possibly Will told her at some point that he liked skinny women. Its getting to the point where she has that popsicle head thing going on. Maybe its all the hair poof.

    • LAK says:

      Looking at William’s ex GFs, they are all on the skinny/scrawny side. Kate may be hyper aware of this and as a result she dieted herself down to skinny/scrawny. Don’t forget, that she’s also received lots of positive reinforcement either via her personal relationship with William and via the media every time she’s lost MORE weight.

    • Suze says:

      I am transfixed by the change in her face. It’s due to more than diet, although that plays a role. She has definitely had work done on her eyes – if you look at her during the girlfriend years her lids were much heavier and she had bags. She also had a fuller face. Which all sounds unattractive, I suppose, but it wasn’t – personally I thought she was extremely pretty then.

      Yes, that’s shallow.

      I await the energy that will be applied to mental health issues. God knows those issues need destigmatizing. So let’s go.

  16. Citresse says:

    The bangs/gringe/fringe, (and I’ve commented on this before), looks a different colour in some photos which is why I wondered as to it being a fake fringe. The colour looks to have a red shade compared to the rest of her hair.
    The dress IMO is kind of meh but it’s appropriate for this charity engagement.
    And I’ve always noted William is much less formal in many ways than his father. I can’t picture Charles dressing that casually unless he was visiting farmland.

    • Hazel says:

      And what’s up with the fit of William’s trousers? They’re all bunched up. When he gets out of the car he seems to be adjusting them.

  17. lainey says:

    ‘Energized’ just like they were committed to conservation and bullying and the arts and children’s hospices. This will last till after the hols and then it’ll stop like it does every year

  18. My two cents says:

    Who fixed her hair? It does not look good. I know they are supposed to work for the good of people but I think at this point no matter what they do it will be perceived in a negative manner. Everybody talking about her weight how do you know she isn’t anorexic or bulimic? Makes sense to me as it would be the one thing in her life she can control.

    • Pipa says:

      …but it was not genuine , sincere nor ‘for the good…’ (more attention paid to their lack of work ethics/hiding from tax payers/ not giving back from the millions they received for family of four and their unroyal behavior. This was PR to the follow up rugby game.

      People are smart! The workless Willnot* cannot, carol and the medddletons are very transparent! Sad for the BRF.

  19. Sharon Lea says:

    There is another piece to this I’m curious if anyone else had read. I think it was in Katie Nicholl’s biography of Kate, but the story goes:

    Kate was enrolled in the University of Edinborough to study psychology, and was set to go there with her 2 best friends from Marlborough College? Then she switched her whole life around, and reapplied to go to St. Andrews so she could go to college with William and major in…art history. And interestingly, her dorm room was precisely below’s William’s. Hmmm…wonder who Carole knew there.

    Anyhoo – is this topic maybe an actual interest for Kate? We know very little personal information about her, especially since William had paranoia about any info about himself getting out during his school years.

    • Pipa says:

      …PW was protected from the media during his school years – POW and the media had an agreement to give Willnot privacy until after… POW was respected and the agreement held.

      Cannot may have wanted to study psy to learn about ma carol (there is now a pap of carol wearing cannot pant shopping or similar to the pant limpet wore to the previous rugby game!).

    • neutral says:

      So how would the Middletons know where Pw was going and what he was studying. And how did they get her dorm near William’s?

      • bluhare says:

        She knew people in his circle. As to the dorm room, no clue.

      • Suze says:

        William’s choice of university was common knowledge during his gap year.

        The dorm may have been luck. I’m not sure how that info would have been public.

      • LAK says:

        I doubt very much that his choice of halls was left to chance, plus Kate had already met him at club H during high school, so her placement in his halls would have been an easy decision for his security team vetting prospective fellow students.

      • notasugarhere says:

        She admitted at one point that they met before university, at parties of the group she was a fringe member of. I’m sure among that group, where he would be living was known. I wouldn’t be surprised if a lot of those people ended up in the dorm with William, for security if nothing else.

    • Sharon Lea says:

      Maybe I gave a too long winded back story ha, but I was trying to see if anyone had heard she had actually wanted to study psychology in college, but chucked it all for William and his choice of art his Freshman year. Does this tie into as to why she chose mental health as a topic to support?

      And yes, this book claims her friend, Emilia Jardine-Paterson (and Godparent to George) had introduced Kate to William one time prior to University, a party out at Highgrove.

  20. Meg says:

    Those bangs really do age her in the picture of her at the rugy game

  21. realitycheck says:

    Not buying any of this PR crap. She can make all the dumb faces she wants. We can see right through all her dumb faces she makes.

  22. Betti says:

    On other royal news – there’s an article in the Fail of Sophie talking about Lady Louise’s eye condition, Strabismus. Love the Wessex’s and they both do a lot for visually impaired causes, they’re just not reported in the mainstream media. Pity- i’d rather read about them and their causes than ‘What Kate Wore’.

    And in Sweden – i think young Prince Nicolas has pushed his Uncle Carl Philip from my heart. He is one cute baby.

    • antipodean says:

      Sophie and Toddler Ted have had their share of bad press, going back all the way to before and immediately after they were married. They have managed to rehabilitate their image somewhat since then. Maybe Katie Bucket and Bill can do the same in time. We waity with bated breath!

      • Betti says:

        LOL – yes i recall some of it but they worked at it, the magic word being ‘worked’, something these 2 don’t know the meaning of.

  23. lila fowler says:

    Her hair is one big mop.

  24. boredblond says:

    Hmmm..Sunday posts could only mean some royal person had a baby/ got married/got a haircut…guess I should’ve read the article 😉

  25. duchesschicana says:

    They always scramble to do some more events during autumn/winter, to make it seem like that are hardworking royals- typical cambridges. I don’t know about the cambridges being champions of mental health issues; they once said they were dedicated to their patronages,anti bulling, etc- Yet some patronages may be lucky to get a visit once a year, but then again the could surprise us I wouldn’t hold my breath.

  26. Zozo says:

    I’m surprised that no one here is talking more about the game/gala/celebrity events scheme. It seems to becoming a pattern. They visit a charity but, just if they have some kind of fun event at the end of the day (or next day). It is like a compensation for all the time they have to spend at the charity. This is bad imo. They are using people who work for those charities for their own personal gain. It is so transparent.

  27. Miss M says:

    Off topic: no coverage of Don Cheadle closing night at NYFF53 with Miles ahead?! Sacrilege!

  28. Kath says:

    English women have historically had the advantage of having nice skin due to the lack of sun damage. It’s funny is that – with the rise of cheap ‘sun-lover’ holidays abroad and tanning beds – many of them now have worse skin than people who live in hot areas.

    Growing up in Australia, it gets drummed into you to protect your skin from the sun. Many don’t, so it’s not surprising that we’re still the skin cancer capital of the world, but it’s funny to see all these ‘English roses’ bake the crap out of themselves whenever they see a bit of sun.

  29. mary says:

    I’m posting before I read all the comments, so this may be a repeat. In that photo at the match, did anybody else notice the men with HUGE heads behind will and Kate? What gives?