Jennifer Lawrence stars in the new Joy trailer, which dropped yesterday from 20th Century Fox. At one point in the film, JLaw plays a 40-year-old mother of two kids, and she thinks she’s not too young to do so (even though she’s 25). The film is a maudlin family saga, which spans four generations and revolves around Miracle Mop and Huggable Hanger magnate Joy Mangano. Much of Mangano’s life story has been dramatized by David O. Russell so he could craft an Oscarbaity film full of “betrayal, treachery, the loss of innocence and the scars of love.” Jennifer goes through the full gamut of emotions in only a few moments. We see her love and loathe, win and lose, shoot a gun, bond with Bradley Cooper’s serial-killer smile, and give herself a haircut. For what it’s worth Robert De Niro looks completely bored off his bum in this trailer. If you haven’t already seen the trailer, here it is:
What do you think? The part where JLaw says, “Listen to me, never speak on my behalf, about my business, again” gave me a little chill. This seems like a return to more serious endeavors for Jennifer, almost back to Winter’s Bone-type territory. She was good in Silver Linings Playbook and American Hustle, but those movies really didn’t seem Oscar worthy to me. The stories weren’t that great, yet Joy has the potential to go there. It’s a family saga that just happens to revolve around a highly successful matriarch who invented crap for the Home Shopping Network.
Overall, I enjoyed this trailer more than the first one. We’re not seeing as much dramatic flouncing from the characters. Instead, JLaw comes off as a cut-throat business leader and the centerpiece of her family. Yes, this is obvious awards bait, and yes, I’m tired of seeing JLaw paired with Bradley Cooper, but this movie looks pretty compelling. Count me in.
Photos courtesy of 20th Century Fox
Looks great. Don’t think it’s out till new year in the UK but will definitely be watching it.
you know sometimes I think they pushed The Revenant to a January release (here in the US) because they were worried the movie couldn’t make as much money going against the competition of christmas day releases….which says something about J.Law’s pull……..I mean, Leo will always be Leo but he IS 40-something, doesn’t take huge creative risks and J.Law has more traction with the under 30 crowd.
We saw the trailer at the movies last week and have no idea what it’s about.
It looks better than AH and SLP but again…JL is miscasted. An actress in her 30th could be more realistic. This doesn’t mean she’s a bad actress but I cannot buy her a widow in her 40th AGAIN.
This is what I thought too… a little more experience and age would have sold it to me more.
It’s really infuriating.
How would a 30-year-old actress be any better? It is still ten years away from 40 and closer to 25 (Jennifer’s age) than 40. It is frustrating that Lawrence gets roles that can go to older actresses, don’t get me wrong, but if the roles calls for a 40 year-old woman, let’s demand for someone who can accurately portray a woman with that type of life experience.
I don’t think Hollywood will ever change its view on this stuff. They’re all about aesthetics and youth on screen. Putting a middle aged woman in a (gasp!) middle-aged character’s role is like anathema for them. They think it will equal less people in theatre seats.
She looks 18 in that first picture with a child. Are we supposed to believe her to be a mother of a 6-7 y.o. child?
But this role mostly calls for a woman in her twenties.
This isn’t a 2 and a half hour film about Joy at the height of her success as a forty-something. In fact it looks like it might finish a few years before that. It’s primarily about the years before her first big success, which btw happened in her mid-30’s not her 40’s.
This is how biopics work. Unless you want to have a different actor playing the character at 20, 25, 30, 35, 40 etc. there’s going to be points where the actor is playing younger than they are, and older than they are. This isn’t some new phenomenon, I don’t know why it’s suddenly bothering people now.
JLaw is the ideal age for this film. She can still pass as as an older teen, and she’s the same age as Joy when most of the dramatic stuff in her personal life was happening. A lot of the film will have JLaw playing her own age or a couple of years older. She can pass as late twenties, early 30’s without any ageing make-up. She won’t be playing late 30’s for a great deal of the film.
If they’d cast a 40yr old it would have had to be a totally different film, starting where this film ends.
She looks 25 the entire trailer-I kept waiting for the ‘change’ from young woman to a woman in her 40’s and she looked the same the entire time.
A few shots she looked mid 30s. Knowing her actual age tosses in the major doubt. She looks like several 20 and 30 year olds I work with. It’s all in your perception and already knowing to sway thoughts. Because of this no one here can say they would think she looked 25 from just looking at her off the street. Knowing taints the pool.
40 though? No way.
Because she’s not meant to be playing a woman in her 40’s. She’s mostly playing the character in her twenties and early 30’s, then mid to late 30’s near the end.
When Joy was 40 she was already a success story. This film is about how she got there.
And the romantacising of guns continues.
the “Joy” of guns. O_o
The trailer looks super messy and the music gives me a headache.
UGH. No offence to JLaw, but just UGH.
I know, it looks like a mess!
Agree. The first trailer looked better( JLaw looks so young during all the trailer)
According to the 2 screen tests,she is great but the film would be messy ( the plot goes in every way)
Also starring SNOW from the Massachusetts winter that just wouldn’t quit!
THUNDERSNOW
From the snowstorm named Thor!
Yes, that’s right! I’m getting really bad flashbacks. I’m so hoping El Niño makes Boston unseasonably warm this winter.
Last winter was unseasonably warm -65 degrees on Christmas Day- until Thor brought the thundersnow and every other flake of snow ever created.
I recognize at least three locations in that trailer as local. It will drive me bonkers
lol thank you for this comment hahaha
I’m as tired of Jennifer Lawrence and the “Hunger Games” idol crap as I was of Kirsten Stewart three movies into the “Twilight” saga. I don’t think Jennifer is ‘all that’ and even though I loved “Silver Linings Playbook” I thought Bradley Cooper deserved an Oscar over Jennifer’s performance.
I´m tire too! she´s too much for me!
Good thing no one is forcing you to watch the film or trailer.. or read this stuff. 😀
Nuh.
I’ve now seen a fair number of David O. Russell films, and it would be nice to get the time back. He’s great at making movies that look and sound smart, but have no genuine humanity or emotional core to them (with the single exception of JLaw’s performance in AH; she broke my heart). I won’t bother seeing any more. Skipping Bradley Cooper’s ratty face and shark smile is an added benefit.
Yes, to all of this.
I agree. In fact, I don’t think his films even look or sound smart. SLP was shallow as hell, if you ask me. Unlike you, though, I didn’t waste too much time on these movies – I shut off a couple of his films about 20 minutes in and never went back.
I also couldn’t get through more than 15minutes of SLP… it was just people screaming at each other.
And JLaw’s constant miscasting (and mediocre acting) ALWAYS pulls me out of the movie every moment she walks on screen. I just don’t get the hype with her. At . All
“No genuine humanity or emotional core to them”
Yes! I fell asleep during AH and SLP. Jaw is a great actress, I want her to be in a movie with some real substance. I will watch Joy because the trailer got me, but, TV (walking dead, game of thrones, mad men, fear the walking dead, breaking bad, etc etc) blows movies out of the water. In fact, I can’t think of a single movie in the last five years that interested me the way TV does now. I hope I like Joy, but I doubt it 🙁
Yes, his movies do look and sound smart–and most don’t. But I disagree that Silver Linings Playbook has no heart! This line and the way De Niro delivers it after the dance competition get to me:
Pat Sr.: “Let me tell you, I know you don’t want to listen to your father, I didn’t listen to mine, and I am telling you you gotta pay attention this time. When life reaches out at a moment like this it’s a sin if you don’t reach back, I’m telling you its a sin if you don’t reach back! It’ll haunt you the rest of your days like a curse. You’re facing a big challenge in your life right now at this very moment, right here. That girl loves you she really really loves you. I don’t know if Nicki ever did, but she sure as shit doesn’t right now. So don’t f*ck this up.”
Excelsior!
I’m sorry but at which point here are we to believe she is anything than a 25 year old? Late 20’s maybe by pushing it but 40??
Yeah, i was getting angrier by the minute as I watched the trailer. 40 years old? This is what you put up,on the screen and expect a 40 year old woman to look like? Totally smooth skin, the roundness of youth in her face, a twenty-something body that comes from youth, not exercise… F@@@ you. What’s wrong or less beautiful about some lines or creases starting around the eyes, a grownup face with angles and a lean body from working out? No wonder women are so insecure. This is nothing against Jennifer herself. She looks very pretty, but forty my ass.
This keeps getting misreported, particularly on Celebitchy. She isn’t playing a 40 year old, she’s not even playing Joy Mangano, she’s playing a woman in her late 20’s whose story is inspired by that of Joy Mangano. David O Russell significantly rewrote Annie Mumolo’s original Mangano biopic script, which is why she just gets a ‘story by’ credit now.
Oh. Never mind. 🙊🙊🙊
Exactly!. Funny how some outlets continue to misreport it that way, huh?…that said, I love that Bedhead is onboard for JOY!.
Read the synopsis of the film before throwing around criticism of the casting of the lead actress, folks.
Anyway, from what I can tell, it looks to be a hit with film enthusiasts as well as Joe popcorn types…it is the type of pull yourself up by your own bootstraps type of film that people seem to love(someone the audience can root for, etc.,) and the film lovers and the buzz for Lawrence is incredibly strong.
haha whoopsie
Exactly. I have no idea WHY people keep reporting that Joy and SLP were women in their 40s. SLP was rewritten to age the character down. The bulk of the Joy story is concentrated on her mid to late 20s era. Seriously CB has reported this wrong fact over and over
Anyways Joy looks good. And I didn’t want to like it because I’m sick of DOR but I love Jen so I’ll be in the theater. BCoop has a smaller role in this movie so its not like this is another Jen/Brad vehicle.
Depending on the field Jen stands a good chance for awards season
Joy was supposed to be Joy Mangano’s biopic from the beginning but of course DOR had to cast Lawrence so he rewrote it and changed it to suit her age. They change it and wow, problem solved… SLP was meant for an older actress, the same with AH, but everybody justified the casting, saying they just changed the character’s age in the story. So technically, Lawrence is not cast in the role that supposed to go to older actress. How convenient…
Agreed with Annie. Yes, the parts are rewritten to suit Lawrence, but let’s not pretend these characters weren’t originally meant for an actress at least a decade older than her. O. Russell films end up being “inspired by real life events”, so he can play fast and loose with his characters. When audiences complained about Lawrence being too young for her role in American Hustle, a lot of them either missed or intentionally ignored a line early in the film — where we first meet her character — where Christian Bale’s character tells her she is too young and beautiful for him. Sure, that establishes her age lining up with Lawrence’s real life age, but what likely bothered audiences is that everything else about the character — from her behavior and her outlook on life — was indicative of someone older. O. Russell can shoehorn expository dialogue to establish her age all he wants, but when everything else about the character is painfully obvious it was meant for an older actress, it doesn’t negate the complaints that Lawrence is too young for these roles he writes for her.
@Alex …
What exactly in the “Silver Linings Playbook” film lead you to believe it had been rewritten to age the character down? Tiffany and Tommy had (still) been married for more than two years–long enough for him to start bugging her about having babies–before his death and the ‘assigned to the case’ police officer remembered her as ‘Tommy’s widow.’
Tommy had obviously been dead long enough for Tiffany to have acted out her grief by having a number of temper-tantrums with family members and the public in general, gotten fired for having sex with everyone at work, gone through therapy, and to have re-built her families garage using Tommy’s life insurance payment … all of that, mind you, during the ‘8-months’ Pat was in the mental hospital, because he definitely remembered ‘Tiffany and Tommy’ as a couple and was not aware of Tommy’s death.
So they didn’t really rewrite it to age the character down, they just added a line “How old are you?” But clearly the Tiffany in the film was meant to be closer to her sister Veronica’s age, which would have put her at late 20’s or very early 3o’s. Jennifer was 20 or 21 when “SLP” was filmed, though she was 22 when the film was released on November 16, 2012 (she was born in August 1990).
I think it’s highly disingenuous of commenters to wonder why people are confused at Jlaws casting. Highly. For every single DOR movie the source material has indeed been a woman in her late thirties with the parts rewritten JUST to cast Jlaw. That’s fine. But it further adds to the idea that women over 30 just don’t exist to Hollywood and they want to avoid them so much they rewrite their parts. This script was a labor of love for Annie Mumlo. It was a biopic (still is guys come on DOR didn’t come up with this script or idea Annie did). He changed it so much just like he did with American Hustle (to the point that I suspect the story will make no sense). She fought really hard to get that story by credit because he was never gonna give it to her.
Looki think the movie looks great and I do want to see it. I enjoy the fact that DOR is making a film centered around a female lead because he really wanted to. I hope it encourages other studios to make similar movies. But DOR is furthering the ageism of female actresses and yes should rightly be criticized for it.
The idea that DOR is to blame for not casting older actresses doesn’t stand up at all – in fact, he’s arguably the only leading director who does. Amy Adams in AH played a character who in real life was in her mid 20s. Furthermore, Russell has written great roles for Melissa Leo, Jackie Weaver and others, and in Joy has cast Rosselini, Ladd, Madsen and Rohm – all great and desperately under-used older actresses. Also, his casting of Lawrence in Joy didn’t cost any older actress a part – Russell made clear the only reason he directed the film was that he wanted to work with her again, so it wouldn’t even be happening without Lawrence. I know it’s fashionable to bash DOR, but it’s clear that his casting record in relation to actresses is actually one of the best out there.
Lol! Ok then she’s correctly casted. How was this not picked up on sooner?
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Amy Adams got to show herself as less disney and more hotness.
The trailor is well designed, but the film looks like a no.
When she’s on red carpet she usually looks older than her age but in DOR’s movies she always somehow looks like a highschool student. Her babyface and her accent will be really distracting. I wonder if she’ll be over the top again but it doesn’t look that way from the trailer, thank God.
Everybody knew this movie will be nominated for Oscars the moment they announced it started filming which says a lot about the condition of those “prestigious” awards. It doesn’t matter anymore if the movie is really good or not. I seriously hope it will flop hard because DOR doesn’t deserve his current position in business and all these accolades.
I hope it does well. If only at least at the box office with or without oscars. Those are the numbers that truly matter.
I’ll only watch it because of Édgar Ramírez. Because he’s just… Flawless and could possibly land an Oscar nom.
Doubt it this is clearly a JLaw Oscar movie bid.
According to the 2 screen tests,he is a minor character and the movie is about Lawrence’s character
Apparently DOR rewrote much the script since the first script .( the husband’s role was much important)
Funny how in the same year, Jennifer will portray 16 year old Katniss and 40 something year old Joy. #hollywoodlogic
She’s not portraying a 40-year-old woman.
It was fine nothing special or award winning but not bad…you know her standard performance but was she suppose to be in her 40s because yep no!
Jennifer isn’t a bad actress but she isn’t this brilliant actress either she is just fine and honestly there was nothing special about that trailer.
The film spans a lifetime and a majority of that is during Joys time as a young, single mother. The film doesn’t just start out with her at 40, that’s a small portion of it.
She looks nothing like a Hong single mother, though. She looks like a kid.
When I look at JLaw – nothing screams to me – caretaker, which a young mother would have to be.
She is not believable.
I’m still confused as to why I’m even supposed to care enough about the lady who invented Miracle Mop to want to see this. I mean, if I had to see a movie about an obnoxious spokesperson, why not Billy Mays? I think he had a drug problem, which, using someone’s real life struggles aside, seems like it would make better cinema.
This is the teaser trailer, not the full length trailer that was recently released.
No, I watched that was thought “how am I supposed to see how anyone is acting when there is no talking?” LOL, so I went and searched and found the full trailer.
She needs to stop letting DOR cast her as 40 year olds. Not only is it unrealistic, unfair to older actresses, and frankly stale, but when she is thirty five it’s going to feel to most of Hollywood like she’s 50 and she won’t get decent roles.
DOR has never cast her as a 40yr old. In SLP she was playing mid twenties, same in American Hustle (he switched the ages of JLaws character and Amy’s). In this film she’ll be mostly playing the character throughout her twenties and early thirties, ending with her success in her late thirties.
I can’t wrap my head around the fact that there’s a movie about the lady from HSN that isn’t on Lifetime. The premise just sounds corny. Sorry, I know that sounds mean or something, but seriously; it doesn’t sound like it would be all that dramatic
Still can’t stand B-coop.
Same here.
Me too – good actor but he creeps me out.
She looks so much like the old Renee Z in some of the shots. This is about who, now? I just saw SLP, so it’s weird to see another movie with practically the same cast. 40. Right.
Umm… NO. She don’t look anything near 40s at all. She may look like in her late 20s or early 30s but 40s? C’mon. It’s another miscast for her. It does look like a high end lifetime movie. I don’t see anything special about this movie but I’m sure it’ll get over hyped and will get nominations.
The film is loosely based on JOY Mangano ( who also has an EP credit in the film)…the character ages from 10 to 40, Lawrence doesn’t play a 40 year old throughout the film.
Anyway, the trailer/film is garnering a hell of a lot of Oscar buzz and good for Lawrence and all involved.
Thank you Jules! People are so quick to jump and bash the casting choice when the bulk of the film is centered around her rise. She got married young, had kids early and after leaving him she began inventing. That was while her kids were little, during her 20s.
Shedoen’t look a day over 25. How old is she then as a young mother in the movie?
She also looks nothing like a young mother, maybe an older sister.
Are there no actresses in their 40s ? How stupid does it look to have a child playing the part of a woman? Will be skipping this mess.
I’m convinced that the appeal of much of her acting is down to her voice. This trailer really brought that home – she’s got quite a deep voice that lends her acting extra gravitas. I can think of other actress whose performances match or surpass jlaw’s but they don’t seem as mature because of the way they speak.
Just my view.
The trailer (both trailers) look fantastic to me. Jennifer Lawrence is kicking ass and taking names…I love it!.
Count me in as well.
She’s not playing a 40-year old character. Fox in their publicity material have made it clear the film isn’t a biopic of Joy Mangano. It’s loosely inspired by her life, that’s all. And from the trailer, it is clear that her character is young twenties at the beginning at least – there’s a reference to her not being able to go to college. So all the chat about her playing an age-inappropriate character seems off point to me. But I agree this looks very good!
Hi there, I think there is a mistake. This is the teaser trailer, not the new full trailer. I think if you watch the full trailer you’ll see what Celebitchy is talking about. Besides, in the full one there is a part where she does look like a 40 year old thanks to make up. I think the rest of it shows her younger years.
There’s a scene in the trailer where she’s obviously aged up to 40 or so, but it’s obvious that for the bulk of the film she’s playing a character in her mid 20, ie her real age!
I can’t even start. First, I’m sick and tired to see Jlaw paired with BCoop and secondly… a 40yo mother of two children? What? I’m sorry but it’s just stupid and makes me mad. Now they’re even hiring young girls to play 40something women? Are we supposed to believe women in their 40s look like that? This is unrealistic to say the least and insane. Frankly, mostly for this reason, I won’t watch it.
Ok I’ve read that they wrote the story to make her character a 20something.. right, except why didn’t they follow up on the real story, with a 40yo woman? I’m sure there are plenty of brilliant actresses in their 40s who would have been amazing in that role. But we get stuck with the same combo and all that.. nope, still not up to it.
“You Can’t Always Get What You Want” is a great fit for the trailer. It is one of those songs that, for me, I hear, and I have to stop what I am doing and listen, even though I have heard it hundreds of times and own several versions of it. It worked well in The Big Chill as well, and as great as that soundtrack is, not having “You Can’t Always Get What You Want,” makes it less complete because the song is so important to the movie. If you can’t already tell, I am a soundtrack buff and can absolutely hate a movie but love the soundtrack enough to give the terrible movie a pass.
Wait, so what is Joy supposed to be about again? I get the matriarch part, but what else?
Sorry, for some reason the trailer lost me in what this move is supposed to be about.
+1 I saw a trailer for it in the theater and was confused. But not intrigued enough to Google it afterward.
It looks really good and Im also happy to see more female driven films, so yeah…Im in.
I’m not sure why people would assume that there can’t be a compelling story here just because it’s about a person who succeeds with a mop on the Home Shopping Network.
I think they purposely make the trailer vague to overcome this preconceived notion.
JLaw was extraordinary in Winter’s Bone. I think she is a wonderful actress. Bradley Cooper on the other hand, I just want to turn the channel. Ugh. Maybe a few more classes using the Stanislavski method will do him some good. But please, stop pairing these two together. She may be getting paid less than BC (whywhywhy), but he is riding her coattails because I find him lackluster at best.
She’s not being paid less, do some research before you get on your high horse.
Um, we learned from the very well known Sony Hack that Jennifer Lawrence and Amy Adams were paid considerably less than their male costars, including Bradley Cooper, for American Hustle. I would wager money that she was paid less for Silver Linings Playbook as well, although I am admittedly too lazy to do any “research” into it. Also, if she was paid as much as BC for this movie, it is questionable if she would have if not for the Sony Hack. Very questionable.
Mark – Back atcha, sweet cheeks. http://www.businessinsider.com/jennifer-lawrence-paid-less-than-male-co-stars-2014-12
I think she was great in Winter’s Bone too, but I am wondering if that may have simply had a lot to do with the writing – and the extraordinary John Hawkes!
I’m so glad you mentioned John Hawkes because I left Winter’s bone being really impressed by him. I found Lawrence was very good of course but his performance was the one that stayed with me.
Disagree she was really good in that movie. The whole cast was amazing. Even Patti the hooker.
Uncle Teardrop
Maybe I’m the only person not impressed with this trailer or any of the roles Jennifer Lawrence has been nominated or won an Oscar for. She’s a decent actress to be sure but seriously overrated, even more than Meryl Streep. It’s not because of her young age because when Kate Winslet was Lawrence’s age I definitely felt that Winslet deserved an Oscar. Winslet was taking on much more compelling and meatier roles in better films in her 20s than Lawrence, but she still didn’t win an Oscar until her 30s. Lawrence is being given too many accolades and roles that are meant for older women much too quickly.
Agreed 1000%
JLaw reeks of overrated.
No, definitely not overrated as Jennifer Lawrence has been receiving acclaim for her performances long before she became a household name.
It’s a lazy word that gets tossed around by those that have a problem with someone so young that has achieved so much in such a short amount of time.
It’s also Oscar season, and people (those that have their own particular favorites in the race) are afraid that the buzz Lawrence is receiving for JOY will translate to another Oscar win…and they should be because Jennifer Lawrence just might win again.
She is overrated, but not a bad actress. She’s very natural and charismatic, her problem is that she has no range whatsoever and I feel like I’m always watching the same thing over and over from her. In her defence, range doesn’t always mean great actress and Leo suffers from the same. I think she’s very good at what she does. I prefer her organic, natural and emotive acting to something Cate Blanchett puts on (I can’t stand Cate, her acting is affected, showy and looks like an actor trying hard.) But she is no Meryl Streep or ‘the greatest actress alive’. She’s great, not amazing unicorn of the century.
No range? Comedy in AH, indie intensity in Winter’s Bone, action hero in the HG movies. That’s quite a lot of range IMHO. But no one is the new Meryl.
@Jules, just because someone doesn’t find JLaw to be the second coming of the Messiah doesn’t mean they are jealous, hate young people, are jealous old hags. Maybe they just don’t think she is very good? Other people’s opinions are valid, too, not just your opinion.
@KatieOh – you’re naming movie genres. Yes, those movies were very different, but she was the same in all of them. Yes, yes I know, the characters were different – but only on paper. In delivery, she played the same variant in all of them.
Which is o-kay! She’s good at being herself and natural on camera, which isn’t easy, she’s very charismatic and girl has star power. She’s a movie star (and I mean that in the best way), but not the best actress walking this earth. But I still stand by my opinion that she has no range as an actress.
I’m more interested in seeing what Brie Larson is up to. IMO she’s a superior actress but lacks JLaw’s glam.
She was good in Winters Bone and that’s it. Weinstein paid for her outstanding PR campaign which in result, got her an undeserved Oscar and now she really doesn’t need anything more. She can just appear on the screen and people will overlook her over-the-top, lazy “acting”.
No, not just Winter’s Bone. The Poker House, The Burning Plain, SLP, The Hunger Games, American Hustle and judging from the trailer and the buzz, JOY.
This argument comes up whenever Jennifer Lawrence is a contender for an Oscar…it’s a boring argument that has been disproved many times over.
@Helo
You Jennifer Lawrence stans are priceless. You can’t disapprove something that’s subjective. Some people think she can act, others don’t. It’s all based on opinions. If someone doesn’t think she can act, well get over it.
I’m always amused by the J-Law bashers who keep insisting that she’s completely overhyped. As the awards and great reviews pile up, and directors like Richard Linklater and Darren Aronofsky line her up for projects, I admire their persistence in insisting on her limited ability despite all that expert opinion going the other way – and the fact she broke through in an indie film with a zero budget, before Weinstein or anyone else knew who she was.
I agree and disagree. I think she’s talented but I definitely think her talent is overhyped. When people say she’s the only one who can do what she can do I think they probably mean walk that line of being a blockbuster success whilst also being considered a prestige actor a la tom hanks, Matt Damon, George clponey, Leo dicaprio, etc. which I agree is absolutely fair for her age group. But they usually mean just acting. Like acting wise she’s the only One capable of putting out good performances and she’s just the best there ever was. No. Absolutely not. She’s good but she’s not in a class by herself. She has many worthy peers.
And I saw the actual first trailer. I may actually go see this because I think it looks good. It looks everything DOR has been trying as of late, finally coming together.
Out of curiosity, what roles did Kate Winslet (who I think is great) play in her 20 which were meatier than the ones that Lawrence plays in say Winter’s Bone, or this forthcoming film? Heavenly Creatures is maybe her equivalent of Winter’s Bone – but what else?
I wasn’t the initial poster so I’m not sure if that were the performances she had in mind but to me Winslet’s turns in Eternal sunshine of the spotless mind, Sense and Sensibility , Jude or Iris meet the definition of meaty roles. And done in her 20’s.
I may be the only person in the world who liked Holy smoke, so it’s better to leave out this one.
Holy Smoke was good! And those are all excellent films. But to be fair to J-Law, she’s only 25, and her role in this movie looks good.
I liked Holy Smoke, too!
Original poster here. Just take a look at her filmography from 1994 to 2004. She would have been around 19 years of age at the release of her first film to 29 years of age in 2004. Also consider at that time she was married twice and had two children. I always thought that Winslet seemed very mature and older than her age in her 20s which may have helped her seem more believable in some of her roles.
Some of her noteworthy films during that time include Heavenly Creatures, Sense and Sensibility, Jude, Hamlet, Titanic, Hideous Kinky, Holy Smoke, Quills, Iris, The Life of David Gale, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, and Finding Neverland. Winslet was working in various genres with different actors and directors. I think her range was incredible for a young woman, and most of the films I listed in my personal opinion were better than Silver Linings Playbook and American Hustle.
Kate winslet was casted age-appropriated
Again she looks like little girl in dress up, it’s just ‘David O Russell presents: ACTING’ again
Just no. David O. Russell’s films are crap. They get a lot of Oscar buzz due to politics, but they are ultimately forgettable.
It looks awesome.
I’ll enjoy it. Not a major fan of Bcoop/Jlaw team in movies, but this looks like something that can be enjoyed. The Rev on the other hand. Something tells me i’ll walk away from that film like i’ve walked away from The Grey and nearly every episode of Hell On Wheels. In a sad state wondering why I watched it knowing i’d feel not great after.
That was the teaser trailer. The full length trailer is here, for those who are interested:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uR-2TiQVY-k
It gives a way better idea of the scope of the story, plus: Isabella Rosselinni!!
Oh, boy!! I just watched the trailer.
Listen to me. Never speak about my
business on my behalf
again.
Lawd!!! Such overacting!! And she has dead eyes. I have never seen her in anything before but from that trailer, she is not a very good actress. haha!!! Oscar worthy!!
Omg. Schmazlty doesn’t even begin to cover it tbh. This looks so terrible.
It probably is, too. David O’s movies are so over-hyped for what they are. Silver Linings Playbook had the most obnoxious, whiny characters and storylines that I’ve seen in at least 10 years.
David O Russell is a hack. He makes films solely for oscar nominations.
He’s also genuinely talented – great with actors, and writes excellent dialogue.
@AJ: Yeah, right.
Well, the trailer is getting a tremendous amount of buzz AND praise for Jennifer Lawrence as well as the film itself, though I’m sure you are aware of that fact.
That doesn’t look good. And her habit . . . of taking long pauses . . . between phrases . . . to emphasize . . . her point is . . . an annoying acting choice.
Yeah. I like Jennifer as an actress but that can get very annoying.
I can’t stand Walken because of this. DeNiro does this here and there too and it’s no good.
Considering she has this habit of memorizing lines the day of filming the scene….I honestly think she just forgot halfway through and was remembering the line.
I just made fun of that above!! Her “Listen
to
me” line made me LOL!!! Oscar worthy?? Hilarious!!!
Meh. I’ll catch it on cable just like I did SLP and AH.
The wrong trailer is posted. That’s the first one.
I just can’t with O’Russell after hearing how he treats his cast and crew. His mental breakdown with Lily Tomlin was just sad to watch a grown ass man act like that. Plus, what ever happened in the case of him sexually laying hands on his niece? How did he get away with that?
Jlaw is ridiculous, she is so unconvincing as a mother and a serious business woman, it is almost comedy.
I think she looks great, and wholly convincing as an overwhelmed young woman making her way in the world – exactly what she is cast to be.
Pass. So tired of seeing DOR, Jennifer Lawrence, Bradley Cooper and Robert De Niro in a movie. Big yawn. Stop trying to make it happen! Playing it safe with the same actors/director over and over again show a lack of confidence and originality.
‘Trying to make it happen’? Two films, multiple Oscar noms, big box-office takings: you’d have to say that combo has happened, and hard.
Those movies were overrated. Didn’t deserve the hype IMO.
There’s a lot of directors out there who like to work with the same actors. David O’Russell isn’t that different.
Best part of David O’Russell films is they are simplistic working man stories about life struggles. Jennifer comes off great here. This role is a woman that goes from high school to 40s. She nails it in this trailer. Jlaw doesn’t come close to how many films we got of Nicole Kidman in the nineties.
Why does she keep playing older roles? It’s just not believable to me. I loved her in Winter Bone, that’s all.
‘At one point in the film she’s playing a 40yr old with 2 kids’. Yes, and at other points she’s playing a young woman in college, and a young mother of two in her twenties. The real Joy had her children young.
Joy was in her mid 30’s when her business started to take off, and from there her success snowballed fast. The film seems like it’s more about the journey to that success than 2 hours of recreating her shilling her product on TV. So JLaw is going to be at points playing younger than she is, and for a lot of the film playing her own age, give it take a year or two. Then near the end (assuming the film is chronological) she’ll be playing late 30’s and maybe 40 right at the conclusion.
I don’t get why that’s such a problem. That’s how biopics work. Unless you’re spanning from childhood to 80, one actor plays the person through 20-30 years. They’ll usually be on the young side, because it’s a hell of a lot easier to make a 20 or 30 something look older than it is to make a 40 something look like a teen.
Male actors are constantly playing significantly older than they are in biopics, I’m talking 30yr differences not 10. No one’s jumping all over them for not having the relevant life experience.
It made me laugh…she is the it girl and being sold to us hard, like really, really hard….all I saw was Jennifer Lawrence acting, nothing extraordinary, nothing that any other actress couldn’t play.
Um… What is this movie about? From the trailer I would guess that it is about a woman who goes to work, sews, has children, gets sad, eats, wears clothes, shoots a gun, and has feelings? And Christmas, maybe?
Joy is based on the real-life story of the woman who invented something like microfibre cleaning cloths. DOR is a really boring writer and director and once you’ve seen one, you’ve seen them all. They’re all kind of feel good, shallow as a puddle, schmaltzy and trite movies with no “ethnic” people that are not gangsters. And JLaw is so overrated. I’m open minded to her being a great actress and she was good in W Bone but seriously, she acts the same in every film.
Three Kings( my fav of DOR) and The Fighter( many hearts and authentic)
I’m waiting for the life story of Shamwow guy starring g Benicio Del Toro.
The trailer looks good and Jennifer Lawrence looks great on the role (not older than 30y but well…)
If this wouldn’t be AGAIN with Bradley Cooper I would actually watch it, but I can’t endure one more movie with both of them!
Why?? Who really decided that this guy had 1. any appeal? He’s as boring as a potato. Couldn’t they just put a potato playing his role? And 2. That he needs to be in every single movie that JLaw does?? How much machism is involved in this choice (the idea that he’s necessary for the rates)? Disgusting.
Yes. To all of this.