On October 9th, Seth Rogen tweeted “f—k you Ben Carson.” The tweet seemed tied to a series of comments Carson had made about Nazis, the Holocaust, gun control, etc. Rogen said as much in his Daily Beast interview a week later, describing how aghast he felt when Carson said the Holocaust would never have happened if the Jews had been armed, plus some other stuff. Well, The Hollywood Reporter did an interview with a film critic named John Nolte, and it’s just precious. Nolte is a film critic for Brietbart.com, the ultra-conservative political site. And Nolte has a theory about why Steve Jobs “bombed” at the box office last weekend: it was all because of Seth Rogen’s tweet and how that tweet alienated all of the conservative film-goers who would have loved to see Steve Jobs if not for Rogen’s Ben-Carson-hating-ways. Anyway, Nolte had so many opinions and they were all rather amazing, so I would definitely suggest you read the full interview here. Some highlights:
Whether conservatives shunned ‘Steve Jobs’ because of Rogen’s tweet: “Hollywood is the only business I know of that doesn’t worry about what the face of their product says. If Mr. Whipple or Ronald McDonald said Christians are Nazis and people who oppose gay marriage are evil and f— Ben Carson, the people in those industries would worry about selling less toilet paper and hamburgers. But in Hollywood, Mr. Whipple — in this case Seth Rogen — can attack 50 percent of the customers, and it’s believed it doesn’t affect the bottom line.”
On the science of box office predictions: “It’s just anti-science to think [Rogen’s tweet] didn’t hurt the movie… I’ll tell you what happened — Seth Rogen told one of the most popular men in the country to f— off. That’s relevant.”
The media is a part of the ‘thought plantation’: “Because [media outlets are] part of the system where the correct-thinking stars are protected… If you guys say that Rogen hurt the movie, his people would come at you hard. You’d be stepping off the thought plantation. There are things you can say in Hollywood and things you can’t.”
Seth Rogen is provincial: “It’s the Pauline Kael thing — “Nobody I know voted for Nixon.” People in Hollywood are smart, but they’re bubble-dumb. They’re never challenged, and they don’t know anyone who disagrees with them, and so they saw Carson as this black apostate and figured everyone feels the same way. Rogen thought everyone in Hollywood will love his tweet because it’s so ballsy. Of course, doing something everyone loves isn’t ballsy at all, but that’s another topic. What he didn’t think, because he’s bubble-dumb, is that there’s a whole world out there, and Ben Carson is more popular than Hillary Clinton, and he’s been a folk hero in the black community for 20 years. Rogen is a provincial. He doesn’t understand the rest of the world.”
On Quentin Tarantino: “He’s also bubble-dumb. He thought Black Lives Matter was cool and mainstream. He doesn’t know that, in the rest of the country, it’s considered a fringe group. To accuse these cops of murder is just nasty. He’s lucky The Hateful Eight release is two months away; that’s a long time in politics.”
Another example of how personal politics hurt a movie: “Tomorrowland. Clooney is in it. He’s a polarizing figure. He’s a movie star in Hollywood, but not bankable in the rest of the country. Then, the news comes out that it’s a global warming film, so it didn’t even get off the ground.”
Nolte also says that Jane Fonda is a “horrible person” but “she’s so talented that I don’t think about that when I see her in a movie. I wish I felt that way about everyone, but, frankly, George Clooney isn’t that talented.” Which I guess means that if Rogen was more talented as an actor, maybe people wouldn’t care that Rogen tweeted “f—k you” to Ben Carson? Anyway, if this guy thinks that Hollywood is a bubble – and he’s actually right about that, Hollywood totally IS a bubble – then what does he think of the lunatic bubble of conservative media?
As for the central argument that he makes that Rogen was the reason why people didn’t want to see the movie… Rogen barely promoted it. Rogen did a few interviews and one film festival premiere and that was it. He was discussed a lot in the reviews, but that’s because most critics thought he gave an award-worthy supporting performance as Steve Wozniak. Considering the sheltered bubble that so many conservatives live within, I have a hard time believing that the average right-leaning person even knew Seth Rogen was in the movie.
Photos courtesy of WENN.
Lol, but honestly…..how many of these conservative republicans are following Seth Rogen on twitter ?? (The movie is great, btw)
^^ This! A ridiculous theory. And I agree that the movie is great.
I think it bombed because people don’t care about seeing a Steve Jobs movie.
Agreed. And Fassy isn’t well-known enough to carry a movie in the US.
You mean another Steve Jobs movie.
Like I said on another post. The movie bomb not because of Fassy but because the movie going audience was just not interested in seeing that particular film. You could put Cruise in it and people still wouldn’t have flocked to see it.
> You could put Cruise in it and people still wouldn’t have flocked to see it.
They would actually. Majority of people don’t know who Fassebnder is and what to expect from him. So, he needed to get them excited about the movie and he didn’t.
People know him as Magneto and Magneto is not that exciting. And further, I don’t think they know Magneto’s name is Fassbender.
Also, this is a dialogue heavy movie ~ so already that will turn off a segment of the people that pay to go see a movie the weekend it opens. It’s a shame, but some people feel like they have to be wowed when they are paying 10.00 + a pop.
@EN
I disagree as I said on Fassy’s post a few days ago. Though Jobs had a very bad weekend opener with a 30 million dollar budget I don’t think Cruise would have faired that much better. Cruise is a major movie star but Rock of Ages made a bit over 14 million opening weekend. Edge of tomorrow about 28 mill opening weekend (definitely not good for a budget that was over 170 million. Oblivion faired better with 37 million for their opener but it definitely wasn’t a slam dunk for it’s 120 million budget. Jack Reacher 15 million dollar opener wasn’t that great. Good thing the budget was only about 57 million. Rogue Nation made 55 million on it’s opening weekend which was pretty good. It doesn’t matter the name behind it; if the audience isn’t interested in a particular film they are not going to see it no matter who they cast. Cruise is still bankable but his major star power lies within the MI movies. He defiantly would have pulled in more ticket sales than Fassy but it still wouldn’t have been a slam dunk. Plus if Cruise was in that movie the budget would have been a bit higher to pay his salary.
I say this as one that saw the film opening day and enjoyed it… most people in the US know enough about Jobs not to be interested in another movie about him — 7 years after he died. Most Americans don’t know who Fassy is, so they won’t see it for him either. It’ll have a small segment of the population that will be interested in the subject matter / Fassy that will see it, but in the crowded fall movie releases, most of that money will likely be made when it’s on DVD or streaming online.
I’ll reiterate this for the many Hollywood big bosses who frequent this forum and will take note of my opinion: It’s not Fassbender’s or Rogen’s or Winslet’s fault the movie doesn’t fare well, it’s just that no one gives a beep about Steve Jobs. The story isn’t that exciting, it has been told before. Be creative for once, find new stories to tell, hire the same actors and you’ll see that people will be interested.
(Is Fassbender really this little known in the US? I definitely would have pegged him a minor A lister, but I’m from Europe. Maybe George Clooney should have made more pee pee jokes.)
It bombed because word got out that the movie didn’t even portray SJ as he truly was. Who wants to go see a movie about a man that isn’t even really about him in the first place?
I am an independent, no party affiliation, fiscally conservative, socially liberal American. My husband, however, is a far, far right conservative. He’s further to the right than Rush Limbaugh. He doesn’t go to movies because he doesn’t want to support “liberal Hollywood.” He has many followers on Facebook and Twitter and they don’t go to the movies either unless it’s a pro-conservative movie (like American Sniper). I could not tell you the last time my husband went to the movies. He’s a Star Wars fan and I’m not even sure I’ll be able to get him to that in December.
The kids and I go to the movies all the time. I saw 2 last week. But my husband and his far right friends will not support someone who insults them.
The far right likes to think they are half the country. They are not. Just like the far, far left is not half the country. Most people are like me, centrists and we don’t let politics rule our day-to-day lives.
For this writer to think this movie bombed because of a tweet insulting Ben Carson is in itself a bubble mentality.
You and your husband and literally me and my husband!!!!! Welcome to my world!!!!! I tend to refer to myself as a social liberal and fiscal conservative!
I could never be married to someone that didn’t share my values, philosophies, or world views. It amazes me that people do especially since that person has a huge impact on the ideals your children would grow up believing.
@Me Too – There is more to life than political beliefs. My husband is a good man, we are the same faith, he is a good husband, a good father, he enjoys traveling. I don’t think he would ever cheat on me (and I say that after being married for 20 years).
As for my children, the three of them seem to follow my lead on things as they view me as the more reasonable and balanced parent.
I have good friends that are as far to the left as my husband is to the right. We don’t agree on everything, but I choose to find common ground with everyone and focus on those aspects of our relationships instead of what we don’t have in common.
I choose not to live in a bubble and enjoy everyone’s personalities and perspective.
@Me too I couldn’t agree more. It’s sherry’s life of course, but I could NEVER live with someone I don’t share at least the fundamental political beliefs with. Never mind raise children with. It’s not about living in a bubble, I see political beliefs as a part of a personality – I could never separate that, probably like you sherry couldn’t separate religion from a personality – and someone that conservative or right-wing has an ugly personality to me.
And there we go … the tolerant left! @ichsi – if you aren’t friends with conservatives, sorry to tell you but YOU are in a bubble. We are out there and we are lovely friends and neighbors. I have many liberal friends and I LOVE it b/c guess what? Knowing people who love their families and community but feel differently politically than you do is a good thing. It humanizes the other side. The sooner we all realize that those that don’t agree with us politically aren’t EVIL or awful or corrupt, the sooner our country can actually fix problems by working together.
@Christina Did I just say that I don’t spend time with conservative people? Or did I say that I wouldn’t want to spend my LIFE with one?
Spending time with conservatives/right wing nutters actually can lead to some very good discussions/fights. But what this Nolte guy is saying is straight out sexually repulsive to me and I could never be attracted to a guy like that. Imagine being attracted to someone who doesn’t share you family values and says marriage should be limited to 3 years, or whatever. It’s like that for me.
Politically I’m in the lucky position of living in a country where the are more options than “we” and “the others”, so we do mix, overlap and have more of an dialogue to begin with. I still couldn’t sleep with someone who says that immigrants are the root to all evil thoigh.
I think it tanked because no one knows who the hell Fassy is and if they are going to see a Jobs film, it has to be with a true box office star who will bring in big bucks. IMO
Leonardo played Howard Hughes… Leo did a great job, the film made some money.
Oh god, did a republican conservative just REALLY say “its anti-science to believe…” because HAHAHAHAHA! How about the fact that nobody gives a dang about Steve Jobs (deceased, even) himself, just his products, and that ONE crappy movie telling his story was MORE than plenty?
Seth Rogan’s comment went viral on all conservative FB pages, and all agreed to boycott the movie. As a Canadian, his comments are not well received. he is not a news commentator. He is an actor in America and had no right to use vulgarity towards a intelligent, well meaning,Black man.
The idea that one cannot have and display an opinion about politics is the type of hogwash that gave us Bush for 8 years.
Furthermore I always find myself suspicious of people more concerned with their feelings being hurt than someone uttering phrases that would encourage the death and decline of hundreds of thousands of others. If those are your priorities then how can they be respected?
Carson’s race is now a badge for conservatives to trot out as their ‘black friend’ they can call on for defense after 8 years of them being exposed for their seething racial tension and cultural ignorance surrounding Obama.
He actually does have a right under the 1st amendment to say whatever he wants about anything he wants.
As a Jewish man he had every right to be offended, react and tell off the man that put partial blame the holocost on Jews. Ben Carsons race has nothing to do with it.
Having Michael Fassbender as the star. Seth Rogen tweeting. It being another Steve Jobs movie. All these had nothing to do with this movie not scoring big numbers during it’s wide release.
The Descendants didn’t even get to 5 million during it’s wide release weekend and it had George Clooney… So yeah there’s that.
I’m not saying Steve Jobs is going to have the type of numbers when it’s run is complete that The Descendants had but opening weekend is not an indication of success.
To borrow a phrase from Seth Rogen
“f–k you John Nolte”
Came here to post the exact same thing you beat me to it… but it warrants repeating in caps…
F–K YOU JOHN NOLTE
Oh and I saw the movie, and the best part in this movie was…
Seth Rogan, he was flawless.
I went to the movie not knowing any background on Steve Jobs. I literally dozed off in the movie for like a minute…a first for me. My petty critique is that Fassbender’s hair in the first part of the movie looked nothing like Jobs’ did in the mid 80’s, it was early 90’s hair that I know well bec. that’s how the guys looked when I was young. As for the movie overall…dialogue too clever, people don’t talk that way irl (especially the line, “I play the orchestra”, I just want to roll my eyes at that type of dialogue) and often times it was soap opera level melodramatic.
I came here to say the same F you to Nolte. And had I known that Rogen had told Ben Carson to F off on Twitter…..well, I would have spent more time on twitter, definitely.
Ben Carson is not a folk hero in the black community.
LMAO, he’s barely a folk.
He is willfullyignorant and apparently a liar as well. He claimed during the GOP debate recently not to be involved with the company referenced in the included link which is a lie. He has been involved with Mannatech since 2004, promoting them via infomercials and live events. The company also helped fund his endowed chair at Johns Hopkins. A company accused of dubious product claims and deceptive sales practices.
http://gizmodo.com/ben-carsons-long-history-with-a-fart-pill-sales-scheme-1739404018
@Cran
That’s not fair. I think he’s “problematic” for a lot of his beliefs, but I watched the debate, and he explained his involvement with the company as having done commercials and live events for them. He just said he wasn’t on their board and wasn’t involved in decisions about their sales practices.
“He’s barely a folk.” 😂
LOL @ “he’s barely a folk”.
Apparently, he is a bit less than truthful about many things. He has talked in the past about his patients on Medicare. He’s a PEDIATRIC neurosurgeon. Kids can get Medicaid but they cannot get Medicare. He has made claims that as a child living in Boston, he saw frequent stabbings and shootings in his neighborhood, which was full of burned out tenement and drug dens . Well, the Boston Globe just did an article about that and, well, no. Just no. His densely-populated neighborhood had been predominantly Jewish but was changing to predominately black, working class, with many small storefront businesses and not a high crime area.
Well, maybe he’s a folk hero with the five very conservative blacks who don’t think it’s a big deal that their ancestors were enslaved and treated like crap for hundreds of years.
Perhaps Dr. Carson is more concerned about creating a better future for future generations than he is about wallowing in the past. We all know that there were terrible atrocities. Unfortunately nothing we can do will change that. But the best way to honor those who were enslaved in the past is to ensure their descendants have a better life than they did.
And I live in the deep south where about 50% of the people in my community are black. Many of them DO support carson, so don’t try to speak for them. Just because YOU don’t like him doesn’t mean no one else does.
This! I don’t understand his reasoning of comparing abortion and slavery. What’s most infuriating is that slave owners DID do whatever they wanted with their slaves and he acts as if they were well paid servants.
So the best way to ensure their descendants have a better life is by stripping away the same government programs that helped Carson achieve his success from others? Who knew. Apparently hupocrisy saves lives.
@samhami, ‘many’ is a weasel word. Are there blacks who support Carson? Of course there are. But overall, he’s not that popular among blacks:
http://www.gallup.com/poll/184547/clinton-favorability-strong-among-black-americans.aspx
@SamiHami
Re ” wallowing in the past’ Funny how that phrase is never used to describe Jews and the Holocaust or Americans and 9/11, Pear Harbor etc.
And for the record Black people aren’t going around saying woes is me my ancestors were slaves,Slavery is mainly relevant in present Day America because it laid the foundation for many of mainstreams beliefs, attitudes and treatment of blacks today
Some people act like slavery was abolished and everyone had a big ole party and all was merry .Nope next there was Share cropping and Jim Crow,.plus housing & Job discrimination , school to prison pipeline , stop and frisk, police profiling and brutality which are PRESENT day happenings that black people do not have to ” wallow in the past’ to experience
SamiHami,
sounds like you shouldn’t speak for black people either…seeing as how you’re NOT ONE OF THEM.
@ Elizabeth:
I know, right? He’s an absolute horror show, as is Alan West while we’re at it. Alan West might even be crazier than Carson.
@GoodNamesAllTaken
I’m okay that he is not on the board and not responsible for their sales practices. Yet it remains that he is a Doctor and I believe respected in his field. Mannatech became involved with him because that relationship trades on his credibility and he in turn has benefitted from the relationship. The consumers taking in the infomercials and live events are looking at Dr. Ben Carson as a respected, knowledgable professional. He is a face of the company.
Perhaps the best you and I can do is respect each other’s views and agree to disagree. I always enjoy your comments and the manner in which you word them.
Seriously. Nor is he “one of the most popular men in the country.” Bubble indeed.
So what this film critic is saying that the Ben Carson supporters and other conservatives are so easily offended by the tweet of an actor that they would not see a movie? WTH
The delusion is strong in this one. I don’t even know where to start. Talk about living in a bubble.
Exactly!!! He’s the one in a bubble!!
I think there’s a point to be made about the studio being in a bubble concerning the wider box office prospects of this movie. But at least that bubble had some basis in reality, as the movie did have great reviews and excellent box office in limited release.
But Nolte isn’t just living in a bubble, he’s living in a delusional alternative universe.
Exactly.
And Matt Damon is hardly beloved by Conservatives yet The Martian is cleaning up!
Right? I’m trying to keep up with his thought process, but in the end I’m just like… Whut?
It’s clear to me that all of you are just “anti-Science”.
It’s anti-science to assume that I’m anti-science, Kitten. And now I’ve typed science too many times and it sounds weird in my head.
John Nolte seems to not have a functioning brain.
Obviously they all just feel emasculated by Seth’s beauty and power.
Ha!
Haha, classic
Thank you. THANK YOU! I needed that.
Zing!
Wasn’t this the same guy who said something ridiculous like Ben Affleck supports ISIS because after twisting Ben’s words around like crazy? Disappointed that the THR even gave this guy a minute’s notice. I’m all for trolling Ben Carson, but I do have to say Seth Rogen can be kind of an ass on twitter. That said I don’t think a single person cares or is going to let that keep them from seeing a movie he is in.
As someone living with the long-term effects of cancer and cancer treatment, who has read Ben Carson’s views on denying me access to health care, I stand firmly beside Seth Rogen, whom I really don’t like, in saying “f–k you, Ben Carson!” And I’ve seen the movie.
*joins Lilacflowers in chanting “F**k you, Ben Carson!”*
I’m with you. How was the film?
Good performance from Fassy but overall, I found it boring. I just don’t care about the Apple 2.
The movie bombed because no one was really interested.
With the cost of movie tickets people don’t go to movies to explore different kinds of cinema like they used to. No matter how well reviewed or acted it was a pipe dream to think audiences would come out in droves to watch a movie about a man who’s already had 1-2 major films focus on his life and work.
As for Carson, he’s not a folk hero and his views are disastrous but he’s a token so his status is elevated to some mythic figure.
I don’t think people care about Steve Jobs as much as Hollywood thinks people do because it keeps making movies about him and no one goes. In any event, no one even knew that Seth Rogen was in Sorkin’s latest peripatetic drone session, so nuts to his theory.
I can explain what popularity Carson has, which on the whole isn’t coming from black people. He does what a segment of white America effectively wants black people the world over to do: apologize for existing and try to make amends for the transgression. That’s the kind of black they like and he finally gives them a black ‘friend’, so racism is over and they can be as racist as they want.
Has Nolte ever said anything to a black person that wasn’t ‘waiter’? He clearly shows he nothing dick-all about ‘the black community’, whatever that is.
STANDING F’KING OVATION.
This exactly describes my in-laws. oh my god, how they are congratulating themselves that they’ve “finally” found a “relatable” black person…it’s sickening.
@anon
Blech, that’s gotta suck to have that kind of self-congratulatory ignorance around you. Sadly I’ve seen that tone a lot in those who commend Carson, he’s an acceptable black and suddenly his blackness is a boon where Obama’s was offensive.
I don’t envy you, anon and I think both of you are right, the last thing we need is people patting themselves on the back for allowing a tap dancer in their presence. I know that’s kind of an ugly term, but it’s fitting.
Yeah, I didn’t realize that he was even in this. No interest in seeing it either. It just doesn’t seem like that great of a story, plus that other one with Kutcher bombed, why risk it?
I had to no idea he was even in the movie!
Right? I vaguely knew about the tweet, but it didn’t really register with me and it would have made absolutely zero difference to whether or not I saw the movie.
I didn’t either TBH.
Me neither.
Thsee arguments hurt my head.
Might be because yours is screwed on the right way. I couldn’t find the logic in his thought process for the life of me, either…
Right! Briefart!
Guess what, conservative film critic, the Tea Party is a fringe group who lives in a bubble also.
My thoughts exactly.
Seth Rogan is from Vancouver. He’s not part of the American political machine. Canadian politics are to the left of American ones, so naturally he would take offense to the extreme Right. But I’m so sick of these idiot commentators acting like everyone in the world gets behind US political platforms.
Half of American citizens couldn’t tell you who our Vice President is, so… Yeah.
I like to ask people how many justices are on the Supreme Court and then name them. Names of reindeers and dwarves often enter the mix.
I was not plannjng on watching a Strve Jobs movie. But i ended up going and i really liked it. I highly recommend it.
This guy is so insulated in his own bubble he thinks “half the population” is conservative AND paying attention to Rogen’s tweets AND making their movie-going decisions based on those tweets. Just awesome, all around!
What a stupid argument to tie to a very basic tweet.
I read headline and clicked on post thinking that perhaps Seth Rogan had written a long, nuanced tweet which tied Ben Carson to the film.
Seth Rogan may be bubble dumb, but this critic is just plain dumb.
Is Ben Carson really one of the most popular people in America? Because he has modest numbers among republicans and they haven’t even asked the general population yet our opinions. He has insulted women, Muslims, Jews, and victims of gun violence so is he really? I know he is liked by the tea party but normal Americans?
Much like with around Johns Hopkins the more you hear Ben Carson speak and get to know him better the crazier you realize he is.
He’s one of those people who should simply stand quietly with a noble expression on his face because as soon as he starts volunteering his opinions they’re so entrenched in ignorance and delusion that you can’t help but feel disappointed and confused.
No, he is not popular at all. He is very much a fringe personality. I think most Americans don’t know who he is.
Trevor Noah on The Daily Show said something about Ben Carson being for people who like Trump’s ideas but don’t care for Trump’s charm and charisma….
Carson really does come across as an odd duck, though. I doubt he would have broad appeal in a campaign.
I think the movie bombed because it wasn’t sold to the audiences.
Nobody was sure what it was, and I didn’t see Fassbender promoting it.
I saw no articles, no interviews, no late night shows with him.
If the lead is not passionate about a movie, who is going to sell it?
I read the Guardian review and it said “iWorship is required”. I was – oooook, what is that supposed to mean?
There was just no strategy in promoting movie, no consistent narrative.
A complete marketing fail on everybody’s part.
I agree, I didn’t see much beyond a few commercials here and there. I saw more press about it when Bale dropped out and Fassbender got the role.
> Tomorrowland. Clooney is in it. He’s a polarizing figure. He’s a movie star in Hollywood, but not bankable in the rest of the country. Then, the news comes out that it’s a global warming film, so it didn’t even get off the ground.”
People don’t mind watching movies with political messages in them. “Avatar”, anyone?
Even the “Hunger Games” has some sort of confused oppression fighting political story line.
“Tomorrowland”‘s crime was that it was unbearably boring and Clooney himself is unbearably boring as an actor.
I didn’t see Steve Jobs because movies are expensive and I only see kids’ movies in the theater. And Ben Carson is dangerous, he’s a monster, and I’d swallow a bag of hair before I even considered voting for him.
1 – why does an ultra-conservative political site have a film critic? Shouldn’t it be focusing on politics?
2 – Mr. Whipple hasn’t been around in over 15 years. Timely example there, dude. Talk about bubble-dumb.
3 – No one who thinks of Carson as a “folk hero” (vomiting) follows Seth Rogen on twitter or probably even were aware he’s in this movie.
Because the people who read such sites and actually give them any serious credence are generally unable to form opinions of their own. They can only parrot back what sources such as Faux News and Rush Limbaugh told them was true.
Thank goodness he’s wrong about offending 50% of movie goers. Like here in Canada, right wing only accounts for about 1/3 of the population, most likely not enough of them to elect a moron like Trump or Ben Carson.
Folks such as John Nolte don’t know, or care to know, that anything exists outside of ‘Murica. I’m sure he wasn’t even considering the rest of the world.
I must have missed the part where Seth Rogen “attacked” anyone. As several people have already pointed out, Seth Rogen isn’t even American, so I really doubt that “attacking 50 percent of the customers” was the intent. He merely expressed an opinion, which he is welcome to.
Also, I do believe that Ben Carson removed his own brain at some point during his career as a neurosurgeon.
I had ZERO idea Seth Rogen was in this movie. I still don’t want to see it.
I know someone who saw it and thought he was the most believable character (but didn’t like the film much)..go figure. This critic may sound crazy, but I have to admit I love the term bubble-dumb
Non American here. And I’m seriously asking, what’s the deal with Ben Carson? I’ve listened to him air his views and I just . . . I don’t have words. Between Trump and Carson and some of the other candidates I’ve seen it’s hard to believe America’s not being pranked.
Agree…another non-American her and it’s puzzling to me as well how this is happening. As you said, it’s like they are being punked. Makes me wonder if Kanye West does have a shot at being President in 4 years. What are Americans thinking??!!
Nope, we, Americans, are really that ignorant. It is scary . We are also very good at ignoring what we don’t want to see or know .
And being the world’s superpower nobody can force us face the music for the consequences of our actions.
And to any criticism we simply say – they are jealous of us.
I think the most basic answer is that there’s a large segment of the US’s population that would elect anybody regardless of how offensive, ignorant or unqualified so long as they a. Kiss the Kim Davis (have fun googling her) type religious right’s ass or b. Kiss the ultra patriotic kick out all those brown people and make our country great again conservative’s ass.
That’s it. Say or do anything you want but so long as you can do THAT you have a built in ultra loyal audience. Enter Carson (B) and Trump (A).
LOL! We are being pranked. By karma.
I have a conservative audiologist aunt who is supporting him based off his medical history, thinks he’s smart, and the fact he is anti-abortion. She is rabidly anti-abortion. That is her ONLY political issue. It’s so sad that, like EN said, Americans ignore what they don’t want to hear. I don’t want to believe that she would still support Carson if she actually heard what all he has said. But all she hears is “shut down planned parenthood” “life begins at conception” blah blah barf.
Look the first time they tried to make a Steve Jobs movie it bombed. So then they go and try to make another one and guess what, it bombed too. People already know his story. No one wants to pay to watch a movie when they already know exactly what is going to happen. Especially when the story is so well-known and there is nothing new to add to it. It’s not like it was a kid’s movie about Cinderella re-made for the 100th time…that will always do well because Kids don’t care and love to watch the same sh*t over and over. Adults are different.
exactly, only the people who worship Jobs are going to want to see it opening weekend.
I would maybe watch it one day, but this is not a “see it in the theaters” type movie.
“It’s just anti-science to think [Rogen’s tweet] didn’t hurt the movie…”
Anti-science? Seriously?
How quickly they co-op the terms used to criticize them. “No, I’m not a bully, YOU’RE a bully. No, I’m not a bigot, YOU’RE a bigot. No, I’m not anti-science, YOU’RE anti-science.”
LOL. Conservatives be like “I’m rubber and you’re glue…” HAHAHA idiots.
anti-science like teaching creationism in schools?
Lol conservatives who think they are intelligent critical thinkers.
Carson’s a complete nut who compared Obamacare to the Holocaust. he’s even worse than Trump
Was scrolling down and saw your cool name! Naked Gun movies are the best! 😀
It was nice watching Dr. Carson on those surgical medical shows from the discovery health channel back in the day. I used to be so taken by his brilliance and calm demeanor in treating his patients.
He seemed so noble, until he decided to run for office and his dark-age mentality and questionable ethics started coming to light.
The only reason I dislike Dr Carson is because he’s a social conservative which is reprehensible as far as I’m concerned.
And s&”& the rest of you are no better worse in fact “a closed mind can learn nothing”
And you all seem very happy to tote your party lines and talking points.
Just like the author and Rogan and hundreds of you who refuse to call him Dr Carson.
Sad, just really sad. If he were a dem…..
I call him by his last name, just as I call all the other candidates by their last names. Shall we discuss those who refuse to address Obama as “President Obama?” My mind is fairly open but I live with cancer and DOCTOR Carson openly supports ending legislation that prohibits insurance companies from denying me coverage. So, I have, in my mind, adequate reason to oppose him as a presidential candidate and as a physician.