Hillary Clinton is going to be a grandmother for the second time, right on schedule

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For some reason, this news made me imagine Hillary Clinton standing over her sleeping daughter, cackling quietly as she wielded a turkey baster. Hillary Clinton is a grandmother! Grandmothers = relatable to human voters. And Hillary was beyond happy when her first grandchild, Charlotte “Iowa Caucus” Mezvinsky was born in September 2014. Chelsea Clinton seemed to be on a schedule too – they weren’t going to leave anything to chance. Hillary Clinton had to increase her relatability numbers quickly, thus we got photos of Hillary and Bill looking adoringly at their newly produced granddaughter. And what could be even better than one grandchild on the campaign trail? Two grandchildren!

I’m actually a little bit surprised that Chelsea got pregnant again so quickly. She’s upped her involvement with the Clinton Foundation, and she’s been working on her mom’s campaign too, and I would imagine her campaign involvement will be increasing in the coming months. So… is it a weird time to have another baby? Or is Chelsea just trying to help her mom out by reminding everyone again that Hillary Clinton is a grandmother? Honestly, I bet it’s more about Chelsea wanting two kids close in age. She’s famously an only child (an adored only child), so I bet she wanted Charlotte to have the experience of a sibling close in age. Anyway, congrats to Chelsea and Marc! Maybe they’ll name this one New Hampshire Primary Mezvinksy.

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  1. Saphana says:

    well played, Mrs Manhattan Project.

    Unfortunately stuff like this works.

    • GoodNamesAllTaken says:

      Yeah, she’s probably whispering the lyrics to Stand By Your Man to her innocent grandchild. 🎶no matter how he cheats on you, then you’ll be president, too!🎶

      The people who support Hillary will buy anything, so I’m sure this will be a huge hit. But I have nothing against Chelsea, so congrats to her.

      • Lama Bean says:

        Well that’s not a fair generalization GNAT!

      • GoodNamesAllTaken says:

        In my opinion, if you believe all the lies that woman has told, and still think she’s a decent human being, you are capable of believing anything. Sorry. Maybe that’s not true, maybe it’s not fair, but I can’t understand how anyone can fall for her.

      • Loulou says:

        +100 GNAT! Hear, hear. Wish we had more to choose from in the Democrat race.

      • Saphana says:

        I dont think all the Hillary supporters fall for her lies, they simply dont care. which is worse in my opinion.

      • Ughhhhhh says:

        Don’t you know that Hillary is the only politician who’s ever told lies?

      • Betsy says:

        Name a politician who is honest. Other than Paul Wellstone, who?

      • lisa says:

        plus this clinton foundation is shady as hell

      • GoodNamesAllTaken says:

        I hate the argument that all politicians lie. So that makes it alright? Why do we accept that?

      • Birdix says:

        it would be a refreshing change if during the next 9 months, the tenor of this conversation changed from easy hits like if you support Clinton you are ignorant or gullible to something like I can’t get past Benghazi (or whatever your main problem or top 5 problems are). Same is true for the other side: “Trump’s proposed ban on Muslim immigrants terrifies me” carries more weight than “Trump supporters are uneducated idiots.”

      • Hawkeye says:

        I would say Bernie Sanders is about as honest as you can get!

      • GoodNamesAllTaken says:

        @Birdix
        First, I never said Hillary supporters are uneducated idiots. I think many of her supporters are well meaning and well educated. I just think that in order to support someone who has been proven, not rumored, but been proven to be an unethical, dishonest, two-faced hypocrite, over and over, who has been indicted or nearly indicted as often as she has, who stole things from the White House when she left there for God’s sake, her supporters must be of the mindset that they will believe whatever she says. I have listed the reasons that I don’t like Hillary several times, and all I get is right wing conspiracy, people trying to bring her down because she’s a woman, and all politicians lie. So what’s the point? Why try to name them again – Whitewater, the illegal use of enemies’ personnel records, the firing of long time employees to hire cronies, the shady deals for quid pro quo, the stealing of $500,000 worth of antiques from the White House, the hiding of documents under subpoena until the day after the statute of limitations ran out, twice, Benghazi, all the lies, “what difference does it make?”, the lies about how none of her emails were classified…oh, ok, it’s actually fun to list them. You’re right, I should list them. From now on, I’ll list them. Is that better?

      • CK says:

        @Hawkeye I wouldn’t say that Bernie has ever outright lied, but he does sells his supporters a bill of goods that he, as someone who has been in the senate for a while, knows will never become law. Barack Obama couldn’t get a medicare buy-in passed with a democratic majority in the house and a veto proof majority in the Senate. There’s no way Bernie can anything close to Universal healthcare or universal college tuition passed with a republican house. Anything that raises the specter of socialism, will be dead on arrival and he knows that.

      • Birdix says:

        Yes, it is better to list them GNAT and I do appreciate it, even if it is accompanied by your fury. People (including me) can ignore/dismiss so much because the rhetoric in politics is so ridiculous and there’s such a mentality of each side out to “get” the other that separating the sport of it from the substance and, frankly, the essential truth can be challenging. I do think, like many politicians, she has been a target, more so because she’s had so many who loathed her from the time she was first lady. But that is a compelling list, that in it’s totality paints a disturbing picture. And though I’m here a lot, and have tangled with you one other time about Clinton (should have known better after that experience!) I don’t see all your posts.

      • Alyce says:

        It’s not that I completely disagree with you it’s just that, in my opinion, she’s the best out of a truly terrible bunch. Can you think of any better candidate right now? Trump and Carson are frightening. Bernie is talking about things that aren’t possible right now. If you tell me someone better, I’ll check them out. Otherwise, I vote Hillary.

      • LAK says:

        What GNAT said.

        Also, she’s only listed some of the things Hilary has done. There is more. All the way from Arkansas to these emails.

        As Christopher Hitchens once said, her default position is to lie even when she doesn’t have to.

        The argument that all politicians lie doesn’t make sense when you are given convincing proof of the lies. It’s one thing to form an opinion based on rumours and quite another based on facts. We truly get the leaders we deserve if we are so complacent as to vote in proven liars based on a conceptual notion that all politicians lie.

      • GoodNamesAllTaken says:

        @Birdix, all of my loathing is aimed at Hillary, absolutely none at you, my friend. I know I am over the top on her. She just pushes some button in me and I forget myself sometimes. I’m sorry.

        @Alyce, I hear you. No, I can’t think of an alternative. I like Bernie S., but he won’t win. I may actually end up voting for Hillary. I was certain that Biden would run, but I guess he just didn’t have the heart. I don’t know of a Republican that I could vote for. I have a good friend who knows and respects Christy, but I don’t think he could win, either. So yeah, I have no idea what to do.

      • Tiffany :) says:

        “I never said Hillary supporters are uneducated idiots”

        Well, you wrote, “The people who support Hillary will buy anything”, which is essentially the same thing.

        Hillary haters are as bias as devoted Hillary followers.

      • GoodNamesAllTaken says:

        @Tiffany:)
        I don’t see it as the same thing at all. I am talking about facts – undeniable, proven facts about Hillary that her supporters choose to rationalize or excuse. My feelings about Hillary are not based on bias. Her supporters’ excuses are.

      • Kelly says:

        I am with GNAT. Hilary is one scary woman. Her “I’m not some stand by your man little woman” speech is just the tip of the iceberg. It makes me sick when I think how she stuck by Bill Clinton after that statement when he has proved to be such a horn dog.

        I told my husband if it’s Trump or Clinton, I’m leaving the country.

      • Betsy says:

        That’s a mighty long list of disproven claims from right wing media and not the convincing evidence you might think.

    • sherry says:

      I texted my husband yesterday and said, “Am I too cynical about Hillary to think this baby was planned to help her campaign?” He responded, “No. Everything with the Clintons is calculated.”

      Regardless, congratulations to Chelsea and wishes for a happy, healthy pregnancy and baby.

      RE: the only child – I was an only child and decided to have 3 for that very reason (I would have had 4 if I were younger when I started). When I lost both of my parents in the same year, it was very hard and I knew I did not want that for my daughter. I always tell the three of them, no matter what happens, you have each other. Always remember that and don’t ever let anything or anyone come between you.

      • Sabrine says:

        I doubt there was any plot involved in this pregnancy. Chelsea is 35 and she doesn’t want to be pushing 40 before she has her second child. I’m sure she is her own person and the size and timing of her family is her and her husband’s business alone, nothing to do with politics and whether or not her mother gets elected.

      • FingerBinger says:

        @Sherry I’m with your husband. The Clintons are very calculating ,I wouldn’t put anything past them. However Chelsea has been a surrogate for her mother’s campaign. I don’t think she’d want to be out on the campaign trail pregnant. That would be a lot of traveling for a pregnant woman.

      • sherry says:

        I think it’s because I’ve heard too many stories from my husband. He used to be a prosecutor in Memphis years ago and heard all kinds of “horror stories” about the Clintons when they were in Arkansas. As I said, I wish nothing but the best for Chelsea and her family. I had my first child at 34, my second at 39 and my last at 41 and understand her wanting to have another baby so soon.

      • Esmom says:

        Yes the Clintons are calculating but I don’t think Chelsea would be complicit in a “plot” like this. I think they want kids close in age. And you never know how long it might take to get pregnant.

      • Susan says:

        IIRC tRumps daughter is pregnant too.

  2. ImJustMe says:

    I’d imagine it may be more that Chelsea is 35. As fertility begins to decline and pregnancy becomes more risky with advanced maternal age, she may have just decided waiting several more years wasn’t worth the risk. I’m certainly not saying that anyone over 35 is old or can’t have children, but from a reproductive standpoint, there are certain realities that exist whether 40 is the new 25 or what have you.

    • V4Real says:

      Wow she 35. She grew up right in front of our eyes. And why 35 is no where near over the hill, it is considered old for childbearing. 35 is right at the gestational age for women. Most doctors have women 35 and older have an amniocentesis done.

      • Susan says:

        FYI amniocentesis is a little outdated, for lack of a better term. There are great advances in maternal and fetal testing that don’t require that somewhat dangerous and painful process. Fortunately for me, I had one at 37 and one at 40 (I’m 42 now) and amnios were not a consideration for my ob (and clearly, I was “high risk” and the oh so charming title “advanced maternal age.”)

      • Sayrah says:

        Not true anymore. They have noninvasive blood tests that can tell the same thing as amino these days. I got mine at 10 weeks.

    • cannibell says:

      That was my first thought too, IJM. That stuff is real, even though not’s not talked about.
      There’s a fascinating book on the topic, “The Big Lie,” by Tanya Selveratnam. (http://nymag.com/thecut/2013/12/taking-on-the-big-lie-about-fertility.html#)

    • PrincessMe says:

      My thought as well. If she wants to have more children, this is the best time to do it , but… there are conspiracy theories for/about everything.

      I hope all goes well with her pregnancy and she has a healthy baby.

  3. Emma - The JP Lover says:

    I don’t know … Chelsea Clinton is 35-years-old and her daughter is 1-years-old and busy women have kids all the time. Should she really wait until after her mother’s run for President to have another child? Her daughter will be nearly 2-years-old when her sister or brother is born and that seems to be how most people plan their families.

    I didn’t realize Chelsea was so tall. She’s 5’9″ tall. I just thought that Hillary was really short. :)

  4. Nancy says:

    Please….I think this is quite the stretch. Another grandchild will get votes, doubt it. Chelsea doesn’t have much of personality and looks like a ginger Hillary, she can’t help it, it’s the way genetics work. I still predict Hillary as our next and first women President, grandkids or not. Haters don’t jump on me about Chelsea, she went through a lot during her father’s presidency and the pundits were relentless about her awkward looks. She’s a tough chick and needs no ones approval, not even mine. Team Hillary…..Donald Trump is an alien

    • suze says:

      People who have met her say Chelsea is a charming and attractive woman. She does not photograph well – and I can relate, having that same issue ; ).

      I think the pregnancy timing is one of age, too, not campaign votes. One grandkid would be enough to generate the “aw” factor, which, unfortunately, works.

      But congrats to Chelsea and her growing family.

      • Shaunna says:

        When Chelsea was in college she arrived at the same airport gate where I was leaving. She is so much better looking in person, just not photogenic in pictures.

    • GoodNamesAllTaken says:

      I think Chelsea went through an awkward stage as a teenager, but I find her an attractive woman.

      And you don’t have to like Donald Trump to dislike Hillary. He doesn’t have the nomination yet, and you can dislike both of them.

      • Nancy says:

        To me Hillary is the pick of the litter. I intensely dislike Trump as a tv personality and he frightens me as the possible President of our country. He did well in real estate, albeit his bankruptcy, but president, OMG please no. Chelsea is average looking, they did a few enhancements but they can afford it. I’m sure she’s a great person, who knows? She lived through a nightmare as a child and who knows how that would affect her through her adulthood. She had to be mortified by her father and Monica. I don’t think I could forgive him for doing that to my mother in front of the world. Oddly enough though, I thought he was a great prez. People tend to remember the good and bury the ugly under the carpet, unless, of course, you’re a republican candidate.

      • kcarp says:

        GNAT: some people equate disliking Hillary with being a Trump supporter. It is not either/or in my opinion.

        Personally I think Hillary has a slime on her that no shower could ever wash off.

      • GoodNamesAllTaken says:

        Yes, as I said above, I hate everybody. Lol. I have no idea what I’m going to do. Merry Christmas!

      • Nancy says:

        GNAT: LOL……put me in as a write in candidate. I would make this a happy world in which to live. MERRY CHRISTMAS GIRLFRIEND :)

  5. lilacflowers says:

    Babies happen.

    And Romney pushed his army of grandchildren in front of cameras throughout both of his campaigns. Being a grandfather did nothing to disguise the fact that he was out of touch with the average person.

    • Robin says:

      Well, the same needs to be said of the Clintons. All of them. COMPLETELY out of touch with the average person.

      • lilacflowers says:

        But they weren’t always. They had to work to support themselves. I worked for Romney very briefly (couldn’t get out of that job fast enough once he took over) and have met both Hillary and the trust fund baby that is Ann Romney. I found Hillary engaging and she came across as if she were actually listening to the people she was talking with (yes, I know it can be an act). Romney acted like an emperor, both in the workplace and out. And Ann was one of the most clueless, rudest people I ever met and expected people to jump to her bidding. She gave an interview to the Boston Globe back in the 90s when Mitt ran against Ted Kennedy. It came to be known as The Stepford Wife Interview (they ran parallel interview with Vicki Kennedy; the women got to choose who would interview them and where the interviews were conducted and they were asked basically the same questions so the set-up was fair) and she never gave an interview to the Globe, the Massachusetts paper of record again, not even while her husband was governor, and his people made very sure that for all his campaigns, Ann was handled very carefully with very limited press access.

  6. Syko says:

    Maybe they just thought it was time to have another baby? There’ll be about two years between them, and many people prefer to have their kids close together. Let’s just congratulate the expectant parents and grandparents, and hope for a comfortable pregnancy, easy birth, and healthy child.

    • PinaColada says:

      Everyone keeps saying that and I agree, but I’ll end up with about 3.7 years between this baby and the last. Is that too far/is it screwed in terms of sibling bond? *sniff sniff* I have 2 years between my daughters, but this one was a giant OOPS so it was somewhat out of my control (I was told I couldn’t get pregnant without fertility meds! I have PCOS).

      • suze says:

        It will be fine. There is no one right way to do things. They will all be siblings together and have that bond !

        There is no “two years between sibs is optimal” rule and never has been.

      • Syko says:

        I didn’t mean to infer that two years is optimal – I only said that some people want their kids close together. I had 18 months between my two girls, then 7 years until the third (a few miscarriages in there). No particular reason, it just happened like that. It was nice that the two girls had each other to play with – but they also had each other to fight with, so one canceled out the other. :) Whatever happens with your family will work out fine, there are benefits to kids being close in age, and other benefits when they’re further apart.

      • Sue Ellen says:

        My sis and I are 5 years apart and thick as thieves. My sis and bro are 6 years apart and best friends. Her husband said he feels like their side kick ;)

    • PinaColada says:

      Thank you I much Syko, Sue Ellen and others for your reassurance. I’m glad to know that 5 years can be BFFs, too. I’ve been genuinely worried. And I have also had 3 losses, which is how I found out I have issues and thought I was finished, so I am sorry for your losses as well. Thank you, ladies!!

  7. The Original Mia says:

    Yes, this pregnancy is totally going to garner another million votes for Hill! Even more if it’s a boy and they name it Clinton. Totally! /snark

    Congrats to Chelsea and Marc! Here’s to a healthy pregnancy!

    • PrincessMe says:

      Maybe they should just put the babies on the ballot, because they totally get votes. /sarcasm

      • The Original Mia says:

        Exactly! Just list the kids and we can vote. Can we compare Charlotte M with any of Ivanka’s kids? List them on the ballot and then we can decide whose family will run the government. It’s totes the only way to decide these things.

  8. Jaana says:

    It has always been puzzling to me hpw Chelsea Clinton got none of her father’s good looks.

    • mayamae says:

      I think she looks a bit like Bill’s mother. It’s hard to see it because she favored heavy makeup and exaggerated eyebrows.

  9. lkaye says:

    Bill Clinton is charming and charismatic which tricks you into thinking he is attractive, but he is NOT attractive. Flat face, bulbous nose, he has no features one would consider attractive besides his sleazy personality.

  10. Tig says:

    Congrats on the new grandchild. As others have commented, 35 and older fertility really takes a hit, so if she wanted another, she needed to get pregnant sooner than later.

  11. Betsy says:

    I LIKE Hillary and find the suggestion that she made Chelsea get pregnant for votes deeply offensive. Congrats to the happy couple!

    • Triple Cardinal says:

      I’m not crazy about Hillary–I, too, wish the Dems would offer more and better candidates–but I will hold my nose and vote for her.

      But the idea that Chelsea’s pregnancy was planned to hit Mom’s specific political timetable is uncalled for. 

      Consider the possibility that Hillary just enjoys the idea of having a second grandchild. 

      • Say Whaa? says:

        Glad to see I’m not the only one who will have to hold her nose and vote for Hillary…because Trump, Cruz or Rubio? Seriously Dems, this is the best we can do for candidates? The struggle is real people, when I can only tell my Mom that I’m not a Hillary fan and that’s because she has to love me anyway. Ha!

    • jc126 says:

      Yeah, lots of nasty comments here. Congrats to Chelsea and her family.

  12. Renae says: says:

    While Chelsea probably didn’t get pregnant for the campaign, I’m sure it will influence some who don’t study candidates histories.

  13. Gala says:

    I was hoping the title of this article was a joke. Oh my God, what an idiotic, hostile and offensive thing to say. You should be ashamed. Her daughter is 35 and likely wanted more than one kid.

    It’s really tragic that the first female president is getting so much vitriol, especially from other women. She’s not perfect by any stretch but the way people talk about her you would think she was Dick Cheney, rather than someone who has actually always tried to find a balance between realism and idealism.

    We clearly have a long way to go. Shame on you all, you just lost a reader. If I wanted to see this kind of crap I’d head over to Breitbart.

    • Ravensdaughter says:

      Whatever. Hillary is not my choice (Bernie is), but I am still impressed by how on top of almost every conceivable issue she is. Also, I am sure she could take down the blabby orange faced man in a heartbeat.
      I did notice she wore the exact same jacket on Late Night with Seth Meyers because I wanted one of my own:
      https://youtu.be/YPndj6ulN3c
      …in this clip she weaves a compelling yarn about Bill Clinton’s not so voluntary trip to N. Korea…

    • Goo says:

      Gala, she is NOT the President and God willing, won’t be. You might want want to do a little research on Hillary. Preferably at Breibart! Know who and WHAT you are voting for.

      • Kelly says:

        I don’t think people are talking about Hilary because she’s a woman, but because of the kind of woman she is. I’ve watched her in interviews since the 80s and 90s, and she’s no lightweight when it comes to Machiavellian politics.

      • Betsy says:

        @goo – is that a joke? Breitbart? Sure, if you do all your research at Media Matters and Daily Kos…

  14. Relli says:

    WOW, that is surprising! Charlotte and my kid were born on the same day …. I just cant imagine doing it again at this time. But I get the siblings thing. My were so much older I didn’t have that experience so getting to mine grow up together makes me happy, I am constantly peeking around corners to snap their precious shared moments.

    • PinaColada says:

      @Relli how much older were your siblings? My dads brother was 17 when he was born!

      • JRenee says:

        My dad is 22 years older than his youngest brother. Grannies was 23 when she had my dad, 45 when she had my uncle. Life happens. .

      • Relli says:

        13 & 11 years. My oldest sister’s first year of college was the year I started kindergarten.

  15. Melody says:

    Chelsea’s 35 – if she wants more kids, she needs to have them quick. I think it’s a coincidence. I don’t trust Hillary for anything but ambition, but I think this is just life happening.

  16. Ifusayso says:

    Feel the Bern guys! I don’t really like Hilz mainly because WHY do we have to pick from the same trees constantly? Do we have so few qualified politicians? Are Americans so dumb? Do we need 3 Bush’s or a husband and wife duo?! It’s bizarre to me. I don’t think Chelsea actually planned this for her moms campaign. Many people want kids 2 years apart. It’s normal.

    • Kelly says:

      I don’t think we pick from the same trees so much as no one else is willing to put themselves and their families through the crap.

      And like many others, I think it’s an age issue not mom’s campaign.

  17. Luvmyyorkie says:

    I’m going to be completely snarky with this but WHY ARE THEIR TEETH ALWAYS SO YELLOW??! Whitening strips would do so much.

  18. Sarah01 says:

    All politicians lie. Period.
    Chelsea is quite weird looking, I don’t like it when she smiles it actually scares me a little.
    Hope she has a healthy baby.
    US politics is a gong/side show.

  19. CK says:

    Congrats to Chelsea and her hubby/fam! I for one can’t wait for this primary to be over and for Bernie Sanders to either head back to the senate or to become a professor at a liberal arts college in Vermont.

  20. Morgan says:

    I was at Stanford with Chelsea and I think she’s like the rest of the class… focused on career for a long time, married late, and now trying to have a family quickly as she reaches advanced maternal age. End of story.

  21. maggie says:

    I’m not from the states but find myself very interested in the political debates. Scary to think anyone of the candidates democrats or republican could possibly be the next president. Bernie Sanders is the only one who comes off as sane. He’s too old though. Frickin scary scene.

  22. Evyn says:

    I don’t recall reading any of these conspiracy theories when Ivanka announced her pregnancy a few months ago.

  23. OrangeCrush says:

    Hillary *terrifies* me. Moving beyond the “all politicians lie” debate, it’s not that she lies, it’s that she comes across so smug about it – she seems (to me) as though she thinks she’s untouchable. That attitude scares me to death because the person who displays it typically never considers consequences because they don’t suffer from them. It’s bad enough to have a boss like that (I would know!), but someone running the country with that mindset? Yikes. And I WANT to like her.

    However – congratulations to Chelsea on her exciting announcement.

  24. Miran says:

    That header, oof. That is a really unflattering photo of chelsea.

  25. Ryan says:

    I’m more likely to vote for the person who doesn’t parade their family in front of the cameras on the campaign trail. Are people still so gullible that they don’t see family exploitation as a ploy?

  26. i literally thought the same thing…. like WOW Hillary WELL PLAYED

    And Chelsea what a way to take it for the team…. baby = NUMBERS

    honestly….. if I was in chelsea’s place, for my mom, I would do the same…. and also she’s married and having her daughter have a sibling close in age like you said celebitchy…. its just pretty damn coincidental…. llolololol

  27. Holmes says:

    Dang, Bubba looks OLD.

    American politics are a farce. The very kindest descriptor I’ve heard from non-American friends is “a sideshow.”

  28. Mary says:

    yes, because everyone can get pregnant on QUE. I could only do it once, but Chelsea can do it whenever …for convienience of her parents. What fools that would believe such a thing. Get a life.

    • jc126 says:

      Seriously – the Clintons send some people into lunacy.
      Trump’s daughter is pregnant, too, but I don’t see anyone accusing her of being calculating with the timing.

  29. Llamas says:

    Ugh. The whole thing scares me. Hillary is the scariest option to me (trump is too stupid to get that far so not worried, Bernie is a socialist and I see through all his golden promises, I digress.) Hillary is just not a good person. She continually rip republicans for being out of touch yet she refuses to drive. That’s only one of her many demands. Takes from the WH of her time there do not paint her well. I’m still fuming over Benghazi. I come from an active military family and to see men who served our country so we may live the way we do just left to die hits so many nerves. She just does not care about the American people. She cares about the title and the power. Now I’m all worked up.

  30. Pondering thoughts says:

    Both Clintons have been in politics for very long and they both have hold high offices.
    Truth is that politicians form alliances and get involved in networks which influence them and which organise money and other things like good press for them. Those networks own the media and sometimes make the media report more nice about certain politicians. These relationships of politicians aren’t necessarily resulting in policies which are in the interest of the public (= the bottom 70%).
    In short: the longer a politician is in politics the more likely it is that he is corrupt or influenced by “some powers behind the throne”.
    The Clintons have been in politics for a very very very long time.
    The Clintons do certainly look a lot better than a lot of the republicans’ candidates.
    But do the Clintons look better than some democratic candidates?