Mark Zuckerberg posts a photo of his daughter at the doctors, angers anti-vaxxers

Mark Zuckerberg, the billionaire founder of Facebook, and his wife, Dr. Priscilla Chan, had daughter, Max Chan Zuckerberg, in Nov 2015. Since Max’s birth, Mark has been like every other parent on Facebook and posting as many pics and proud parental moments of Max as his company’s bandwidth will allow. They have ranged from a sweet shot introducing Max to the world to Max’s side-eye in her Jedi outfit. Last Friday, Mark posted a picture of a darling Max seated on his lap as they waited for the doctor. His captioned it, “Doctor’s visit — time for vaccines!” and the post went viral (pun possibly intended.) Seen as an official statement from an influential businessman in the debate about vaccines, the post has sparked outrage and garnered adamant support, to the tune of 78,000 comments and counting.

“It is of course another milestone, complete with an “aww”-inducing photo of Max. But this one set the Internet aflame in a way a gingerbread house never could, because this post is not really about Max at all — many see it as her billionaire father showing his hand in the vaccine debate.
Many of Zuckerberg’s 47 million-some followers saw the post as a not-so-subtle expression of support for vaccinations, the public health matter at the center of an ongoing debate on modern science and civil liberties.
“Thanks for protecting your child, and other children who can’t be vaccinated, and for supporting science!” wrote user Allison Hagood. “Adorable baby.”
(A major element of vaccine advocacy is “herd immunity,” which protects an entire community, including those who are not immune, when a critical portion of the population has been immunized.)
Another user, Elsa Sakz, countered: “Vaccine is poison for human kind. It kills more people than it helps. I wish people don’t take it as an example here.”
Yet, many Americans, including Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump, doubt the medical efficacy of vaccines and have pointed to their potential dangers. During a September 2015 GOP debate, Trump recounted that the 2-year-old child of one of his employees “got a tremendous fever” and “now is autistic” after getting vaccinated.
The notion that vaccines cause autism was disseminated in 1998, when a paper published by researcher Andrew Wakefield speculated that there was a causal link between the neurobehavioral disorder and the standard measles, mumps and rubella (MMRS) vaccine. The movement against vaccines was then taken up by a number of celebrities, including Jenny McCarthy and Jim Carrey.
In 2010, Wakefield’s article was retracted after it was discovered that his work had been funded by parents suing vaccine companies. What’s more, some parts of the paper were found to be fabricated, labeling children without autism as having the disorder.”

[From the Washington Post]

Mark and Priscilla were open with the world about their hard road to having a healthy baby; Priscilla suffered a few miscarriages before she was able to carry Max to term. Since Max’s birth, both Mark and Priscilla have pledged a part of their fortune to improve the world for the children of today and tomorrow. Priscilla is a pediatrician who would have studied all scientific evidence supporting vaccines to advise her patients – this decision was not made lightly.

After 147 people suffered from a measles outbreak linked to Disneyland in Anaheim, California Governor Jerry Brown signed SB77 into law, which eliminates personal belief from the decision to vaccinate children who plan to attend school, giving California one of the strictest immunization policies in the country. SB77 went into effect on January 1 of this year. All this post is legitimately saying is that the Chan Zuckerbergs may be considering having Max attend a non-home based school in California. However, I doubt all of Mark’s 47+ million followers are aware of a California law that went into effect two weeks ago. So is Mark making a political statement or just finding another opportunity to show the world how adorable Max is?



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  1. Krista says:

    I can’t believe I live in a time when vaccination has become a political statement.

    • Kat says:

      Totally agree. Utterly ridiculous.

    • Shambles says:

      Yep. This is proposterous.

      To me, “Time for vaccines!” sounds as perfectly normal as “Time for breakfast!”
      And people are outraged? Good heavens. What a time to be alive, indeed, Drake.

      On another note BABY PATAGONIA, ERMAGERD that child is precious.

      • vauvert says:

        I know, Patagonia right? I just love them both right now, dad and baby. I love that instead of stupid Chanel something, Max is wearing that adorable suit. We are huge fans of the brand (it is what I get my husband for Xmas) and… we vaccinate our kid. I have to shake my head over the madness of it all. I am fairly sure that he meant it simply as “pic of the day” and the day happened to be vaccine day, but at the same time he is obviously a parent who understands the science behind vaccines and provides his kid with proper medical care. And that is controversial??? Crazy world.

      • melodycalder says:

        She is a month old, what was she getting? My dr didn’t want to give my kid anything at 1 month old. It’s a political statement, not a parent following the vaccine schedule

      • Falula says:

        @melody, if she was born in November it might be a 2mo check which has a couple of vaccines on the schedule.

      • cr says:

        Could be HepB shot, since the 2nd dose is recommended at 1-2 months.

      • paranormalgirl says:

        She was born in November, making her near 2 months old. A typical vaccination schedule would be hepB between 1 and 2 months, as mentioned above, as well as DTaP, IPV, PCV13, and Rotavirus at the 2 month mark.

        Priscilla Chan is a pediatrician. I’m sure she is well versed on vaccination schedules.

    • Pinky says:

      Also, it is not a “debate.” Neither is evolution…or math or science.

      When “belief” gets the same footing as “fact,” we’re f*cked.

      • Duchess of Corolla says:

        +infinity to this…

        Nothing to debate regarding these things. Germs are a reality…a deadly one. Why is someone being chastised for protecting their child? What a world…what a world.

      • here or there says:

        +10000000 YES!

      • paleokifaru says:

        Thank you. Does it really just take one generation of not dealing with this illnesses on a regular basis to pretend they’re not devastating? Ugh.

      • Betsy says:

        @paleokifaru – it’s taken just about forty years since Roe v. Wade for people to forget the horrors of what happened to women before legal abortion was widely available (sepsis, sterility, maiming, death), so I guess I’ll say yes – one generation is all it takes to forget the before.

      • Alyce says:

        @Pinky – Your comment sums up my feelings perfectly. There is nothing bad about having a differing opinion, but when it goes against almost all evidence… Your opinion simply isn’t as valid as facts. You can yell that vaccinations cause autism or that climate change isn’t real all day long and I will respect your right to do so, but I’m not going to respect your opinion. It’s crazy talk.

      • lucy2 says:

        I know!
        Including the comment about not believing the effectiveness of the vaccines – people stopped getting the terrible diseases in areas where people were vaccinated, didn’t they???

      • nikko says:

        The thing that gets me is majority of adults who are against vaccines were vaccinated when they were kids.

      • Alarmjaguar says:

        Well said

    • Esmom says:

      Sigh, I know.

    • Insomniac says:

      Sad, but true. On a happier note, Zuckerbaby is adorable.

    • Duchess of Corolla says:


    • lilacflowers says:

      Vaccines and immunization programs ARE a political issue and have been for decades. Currently, the CDC distributes and regulates vaccines, including setting allowable fees for administration of the shots (how much the doctor can charge you for sticking a needle in your kid). Most of the vaccines themselves are distributed for free, you pay for the doctor visit.The Carter administration established programs to get every US child immunized for a list of diseases by age 2, which seriously cut down on outbreaks of and deaths due to those diseases. Reagan came along and eliminated the program – hundreds of kids died over the next few years. Clinton re-established it, including setting up outreach programs to educate communities on the need for immunization. Since then, Congress and the White House have gone back on forth on funding, with some in congress wanting to slash immunization programs completely. Individual states also have their own laws about immunization with some, like California, regulating it through school admission.

    • Brittney B. says:

      It’s amazing that the whole of human history has evolved to this point, when we can immunize a body against dozens of specific diseases, measure the exact environmental impact of our energy sources, and predict weather and climate patterns early… and yet, because so many people have decided not to “believe” in science, children are still dying and companies are still polluting and climate change is getting worse by the day.

      I have a feeling the human race will eventually receive a collective Darwin Award for dying of its own stupidity… too bad we’re taking the rest of the planet down with us.

      • I Choose Me says:

        Girl, preach! Sigh.

        Brings to mind a quote that purported to be an ancient Chinese curse: May you live in interesting times.

        These are interesting times indeed.

      • Tania says:

        You are so right. And that makes me so sad.

    • Alex says:

      Same. I can’t believe that my doctor had to stop taking certain patients because they weren’t vaccinated by choice because of the outbreak. Completely ridiculous.
      When someone comes with up to date, scientific FACT to support their anti-vax (by choice not necessity) stance I’ll listen. Until then I’ll call you an idiot

    • Pandy says:

      Seriously! The world isn’t flat either people … get with the program.

    • BooBooLaRue says:

      This. Not a Zuckerberg fan, but that baby is everything cute.

    • FLORC says:

      I’m not shocked. on one side we do have documentation our goverment has distributed horrible things to citizens/military under claims of vaccines. For purposes of this specific topic it holds very little ground if any at all.

      And it all began with someone who fudged the hell out of a report and their negligent procedures. Ugh.

  2. GoodNamesAllTaken says:

    Good for him. And that baby is so cute.

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    • Erinn says:

      I’m so happy he did this.

      As someone who’s brother is autistic – every asshat who DARES breathe the words ‘but vaccines cause aut-” is immediately dead to me. The studies were falsified – the guy that did them was up on child abuse charges – and yet people parade him around as some sort of beacon of truth. It makes me sick. You don’t ‘catch’ autism. More and more studies are pointing to in utero development. The kind of people who can just sit there and look at a beautiful autistic child and think ‘oh if only they hadn’t vaccinated’ are some of the worst kind of humans.

      • Brittney B. says:

        Thanks for sharing your perspective. I’m sorry you have to hear this tripe so often… it’s infuriating to me too, and I don’t even have a family connection.

        Even IF autism were linked to a tiny fraction of vaccines — so basically, I’m trying to put myself in the shoes of people who already believe this — it’s not fatal like polio and so many other diseases for which we now have vaccines. Autism isn’t some plague that separates some people from the rest of humanity; it is just one aspect of a person’s identity, and the more we learn about it, the more we can embrace the positive aspects and guide all kids to lead productive and fulfilling lives.

        Worst kind of humans, indeed. Just because YOU can’t accept and love and understand a child with autism (let alone bother to learn any facts about autism at all), doesn’t mean other parents should have to accept that their kids might die of a completely preventable disease.

      • Esmom says:

        I’m with you. My son is on the spectrum and I know vaccines didn’t contribute to his development, which is not a tragedy because it was atypical. The signs were there from Day One. People terrified of autism are just looking to place “blame,” and imo vaccines are a convenient scapegoat.

      • Alex says:

        I’m sorry you EVER have to here these things.
        And I feel sorry for anyone who would rather risk a painful death by measles than to have an autistic child

      • ab says:

        same here. I try to be mindful of the fact that people have different beliefs, but I have no time for anti-vaxxers. my daughter has autism, and she was and will continue to be fully immunized on schedule, as will any possible future children of mine. I don’t understand how people can disregard decades of straight up science and common sense. you can’t catch autism but you sure as hell can catch measles, or whooping cough.

      • woodstock_schulz says:

        My son is also autistic, and fully vaccinated for his age. I can’t believe that people are so ignorant that they weigh the (non-existent, because, science) possibility of “getting” autism from a vaccine as WORSE than the VERY REAL possibility of getting polio, pertussis, measles, mumps, rubella, etc, etc…

        and p.s. the Zuckerbaby is soooo cute!!

      • GoodNamesAllTaken says:

        I think it’s so important for all of you who have autistic loved ones to speak out against this non-science. Good for you!

      • TristansMommu says:

        As the mother to an autistic 7 year old who is fully vaccinated I take this issue very personally. I love my son so much and wouldn’t not change a thing about him, for a parent to risk not only their child’s life but the other children’s lives they come into contact with not vaccinating because they buy into Jenny McCarthy’s logic and are worried their kid “might” get autism is asinine. I would rather have an autistic child than one that died from something completely preventable. I will take my science from real scientists with real research not playboy bunnies when it comes to my child’s life.

      • FLORC says:

        I can’t, but I want to just lose my mind when people say they’ll refuse vaccines for their babies. And chances are greater they will risk them getting an illness that was easily avoided with a shot. An illness that could land them in the ER or CCU.

      • Lucky says:

        Another autism parent here. My son is 18 and fully vaccinated. Vaccines did not cause his autism, looking back he actually had signs in utero! It truly is just people looking to blame someone or something for it. I know a woman who has a 45 year old autistic son who insists that anesthesia from a minor operation her son had at the age of 2 caused his developmental disability.

      • MrsClincy says:

        My 3 year old nephew is high functioning autistic and we found out he was autistic before he was even born, my 25 year sister (his mother) is high functioning autistic and we found out when she was a couple months old, my 1 year niece is being tested for autism (different sister) we’ve suspected autism since she was a month old. So knowing what I know from personal experience I have to say as well that the people saying vaccines cause autism are jackasses.

      • Lady D says:

        I had some questions once when my baby was getting a shot. The nurse relayed a story about a baby dying from whooping cough. It was a horrible, heartbreaking, and totally preventable death. I get so angry listening to anti-vaccers.
        I just realized, I don’t have a single friend who doesn’t vaccinate. What is the percentage of population that isn’t vaccinating, does anyone know?

  3. Sara says:

    Vaccines are poison??? Tell that to the millions of victims of polio and other diseases. No patience with ignorant conspiracy nuts. I just hope their innocent children don’t suffer from their parents’ decisions.

    • Sandy123 says:

      I don’t remember a time when vaccines were uncommon in the west, but my mother sure does. She’s an RN and recalls clearly what life was like before they were the norm. I’m talking about 40 years ago, not that long ago. Why anyone would want to return to that kind of age boggles her mind. It’s privilege and ignorance that have brought this ‘debate’ to life and as history shows, that’s a recipe for only wonderful things…riiiight. Even though there is no evidence to support the link, the message that the anti-vaccers are spreading is that a dear kid is better than an autistic kid?? Am I getting that right?? I’d gladly roll the dice again for my living and immunized son, thanks.

    • Mimz says:

      Tell me about it I live in Africa, millions of people in this continent suffer through these diseases and the vaccines helped us all to , if not erradicate, slow the most dangerous ones down…

    • BRE says:

      THIS!!! My mom who is in her 70s says that part of the problem with anti-vaxxers is that they have never seen the effects of the terrible diseases first hand.

      • Brittney B. says:

        That’s a really good point. Sadly, the only effective wake-up call would be the worst case scenario… you know, since historical records and scientific facts don’t matter.

        Same thing with climate change, actually.

        I would suggest creating a separate state for people who want to shun science… they can live without any of its restrictions OR innovations. They won’t have light bulbs or aspirin or lead-free paint or antibiotics, but they also won’t have autism, right?! The kids are innocent in this, though.

      • GoodNamesAllTaken says:

        I think your mother is very right.

      • lucy2 says:

        I think that’s it exactly. They have no idea.

      • Nic919 says:

        My mom got two different kinds of measles as a kid and in one case the fever was so bad she lost her hair temporarily. My dad got whooping cough as a baby and was treated with radiation as treatment. They got us vaccinated in the 70s with whatever was available in Canada because they weren’t going to risk their kids’ lives like that.

        The anti vaxxers should move to countries where these diseases are still happening and not take advantage of what North American countries have done in the last 40 years. I bet they wouldn’t be so anti vaccine if they saw first hand the devastating effects of polio.

      • scone says:

        She is completely correct. I caught whooping cough this Autumn, proper full on pertussis. Even though I am in my forties and in normally good health there were times when I was desperately gasping for a breath that wouldn’t come and feeling panicky that I was actually going to die. I cracked three ribs coughing.

        Both my own children had been vaccinated, thank god. If my ds, who has type 1 diabetes, had caught it I am convinced that he would still be in hospital.

        Please vaccinate your children anyone who is reading this. I know that the doubt can be scary but it is a lot less scary than watching them turn blue.

      • Mltpsych says:

        I got whooping cough also and coughed daily for almost 3 months. It was really scary. My kids are fully vaccinated and did not get it. My oldest goes to a school where 50% of the kids are not vaccinated due to this ridiculous thinking. Thank God we are in CA and this will change now. Although we had a bunch of parents trying to get petitions signed to stop the law and when I said I believed in vaccinating the woman said “but how can you be against choice?” Umm because this is not an abortion this is keeping an entire nation healthy. I just can’t with these anti vaxxers.

    • Amelia says:

      Edward Jenner would probably be spinning in his grave if he caught wind of this ridiculous anti-vaxxer bullshit.

    • littlemissnaughty says:

      Being anti-vaccine is one of the greatest luxuries imaginable. My father is in his 70s and was born in 1940s Greece. He didn’t know that this movement was a thing and when I told him, he started yelling and cursing like I’ve never seen him do. I’m really curious as to what these idiots would do if everyone listened to them and stopped vaccinating. Or if their child got polio. These nutjobs.

      • Algernon says:

        My father, though not from Greece, is also in his 70s. He remembers family members and friends who had polio, and one of his school friends died of a fever (scarlet, maybe?) when they were children. He told me the day he went to get his vaccine, he cried.

      • FLORC says:

        It was a miracle to get a shot and not get sick.

        Those old enough to remember the illnesses many of us were never exposed to because of vaccinations understand this. It’s a shot to helps you and those around you.

      • Persephone says:

        My grandmother uses words she usually never says when the topic comes up too.

    • Jib says:

      I’m 54, born in 1961, a few years after the polio vaccine became commonplace. My parents tell me horrible stories about kids and adults who caught, got paralyzed and died from polio. Is an iron lung better than a slight tiny chance of autism, even if you believe the vaccination nonsense, which I don’t. There is no sense of proportion in these crazies – sorry, but to risk even one disease like polio when you don’t have to is crazy.

  4. Lindy79 says:

    I think he could have done it and not posted the picture so I do think it was a conscious decision to state she was getting vaccinated.

    I also knew from the second he posted it, it would ignite something, which it did. Its a complicated issue and obviously opinions are going to get heated on it, but as you’ve stated Priscilla is a pediatrician ffs but no, of course the internet loonies were going to post about their second cousin twice removed kid who was never the same after vaccinations. You know what else they wouldn’t be the same after? A bout of Measles or Polio.

    • Luca76 says:

      It’s not a complicated issue in the least vaccines save lives. People who are paranoid about the government and scientists (some of whom are otherwise kindhearted people on my Facebook feed) get taken in by pseudoscience and think they know better than doctors.

      • Lindy79 says:

        I’m not saying I personally think it’s a complicated issue, more so that it’s one that the complication arises from the disagreements and seems to create a lot of arguments and unfortunately I can’t see it getting any better especially when one side refuses to listen to anything.

      • Luca76 says:

        I get it Lindy

      • Belle Epoch says:

        I have a FB friend who is funny, brilliant, and a former teacher – and she posts anti-vaccine sh*t! I don’t want to start a war over it but I CANNOT BELIEVE she bought into the paranoia. She doesn’t think much of Western medicine, so maybe her distrust spreads from there. So, so foolish. And Trump should stick to what he knows – cheating at golf.

      • Who ARE these people? says:

        This business about “Western medicine” is itself a problem, isn’t it? What’s wrong with Western medicine? It has saved millions of lives and aspiring medical students from the East flock to Western medical schools to learn its ways. If it’s not perfect, it’s not due to problems with the scientific method; it’s due to problems with inadequate social funding, the infiltration of money from vested interests, insufficient health and science education, and the challenges of nature itself, which doesn’t always want to be understood.

        There’s a quote floating out in the quotosphere by a doctor or medical researcher:

        “There’s no such thing as alternative medicine. There’s only medicine that works and medicine that doesn’t work.”

        Vaccines are medicines that work.

      • GreenieWeenie says:

        ^^Well. In keeping with the tone of your comment…there is medicine that treats symptoms, and medicine that treats causes. A good deal of the practice of Western medicine involves treating symptoms only. There are holistic medicine systems (i.e. Traditional Chinese Medicine) that have successfully treated causes for thousands of years.

        But you have to know what each system of medicine does well. You don’t treat a cancerous tumor with TCM. You treat it with surgery/chemo. But many people have successfully treated chronic pain with TCM, and this is not a particular area of triumph for Western medicine.

        That said, no holistic medicine will ward off disease. Get your vaccines, kids. I just caution against dismissal of systems of holistic medicine (I’m talking about useful aspects of Indian and Chinese systems that were developed over millennia, not amber stones or magical rhino horns) as that in itself is a form of ignorance.

      • Who ARE these people? says:

        Thx GreenieWeenie. I wasn’t meaning to dismiss systems that are more holistic and preventive in nature, only looking to support so-called “Western” medicine for the things it has done that are effective in dealing in particular with infectious disease. Science as a whole, where ever conducted, continues to inform us that the ‘best prevention’ comes in the form of good nutrition, plenty of exercise, sleep, social support, stress management, avoiding smoking and other hazardous chemicals, vaccination, and so on and so on.

        Policy and payment structures come into play in terms of developing better-integrated health care. Today’s system was designed for acute care so it gives the impression of being less effective in some ways as the population ages. If some day (in my dreams) the systems manage to orient themselves around coordinated care and prevention, “Western medicine” — if that means based on the scientific method — will work again with today’s ever-growing cases of chronic (and often preventable) disease.

      • GreenieWeenie says:

        I wish there were more real study of Chinese/Indian systems because they do have empirical data collected over virtually hundreds of years. But it predates modern medicine, obviously, and isn’t really studied seriously. Maybe as the two countries modernize, they’ll start doing that more rigorously. If so, good chance you’d see some of those practices become part of GP care in the West. Or like you say, better preventive medicine will serve the same function.

      • Jib says:

        @greenieWeenie, and what I didn’t realize until recently is that even earlier cultures had antibiotics: garlic, oregano. We used to treat my son’s sinus infections with garlic water after months of antibiotics didn’t work. After three weeks of acupunture, his long term asthma went away. So I really do believe in alternative/holistic medicine.

        BUT – when it comes to vaccines and preventing serious, deadly illnesses, the best we have are vaccines – not acupunture or garlic. So I’ll keep the garlic for sinus infections and make darn sure my grandkids are fully vaccinated when my children have kids.

    • Kat says:

      I agree mostly, except that vaccines are a complicated issue. It is quite simple and people who are uneducated and ignorant attempt to complicate it.

    • GreenieWeenie says:

      I am one of 8 children (6 bio, 2 adopted). The oldest and youngest bio children had bad rxns to MMR ten years apart. I feel like this is good fodder for a case study.

      My mom knew my youngest sibling would react badly. She delayed his MMR for months and he still reacted–because he was always different, and she knew this because she’d had five children before him to compare him to. With my oldest sibling’s reaction, it wasn’t the vaccine itself that posed a serious threat. It was the seizures he suffered in ice baths during high fevers as he almost drowned several times.

      Anyway, it might not be clear so my points are: something in your genetic makeup causes the bad reaction. And if that is your genetic makeup, you will likely already have some long-term issues on your plate–the relatively mild effects of the majority of bad reactions are not the cause of those issues. Instead, most of the risk comes from associated accidents (accidental drownings or head trauma from seizures, say). (And yes, I am pro-vaccine).

      • mp says:

        Thanks for this perspective GreenieWeenie. Have you seen this vox article on polio vaccines:

        I thought the risk of a reaction was interesting. 1 in 1.5 million.

      • GreenieWeenie says:

        ^^wow, that’s crazy. I wonder how this compares to smallpox, as I think that was eradicated and countries stopped giving smallpox vaccines?

        My own experience suggests it is just some specific and unusual genetic makeup that makes you susceptible (the 1 person/1.5 million getting paralyzed). My two siblings who reacted are both different from the rest of us, bio or not–and were different from birth. The last one in particular went on to have some pretty serious issues, to the surprise of no one. I do kind of wonder how many parents who think the MMR vaccine caused their child’s Autism would’ve even been able to recognize early signs prior to vaccination?

      • Esmom says:

        “I do kind of wonder how many parents who think the MMR vaccine caused their child’s Autism would’ve even been able to recognize early signs prior to vaccination?”

        Good question. I’d guess not many. I remember seeing a video years ago shot by a parent to “prove” her son was developing normally prior to his MMR and in the video he actually does display signs of autism, like echolalic speech, and she had no idea. In my case, I did sense something was atypical about the way my son reacted to things and engaged with the world as a baby and young toddler but it was hard to describe to the doctor and he kept dismissing me until the signs became too obvious to dismiss.

      • Easypeasy123 says:

        It’s recommended not to put children with high fevers in an ice bath because it can cause seizures. Just an fyi

      • GreenieWeenie says:

        Honestly, I am blown away by how much you learn from experience. If you grow up with/raise a lot of kids close in age, you absorb a lot of knowledge without even being aware of it. You just have so many points of comparison. But if the parent has only one or two siblings or they were the youngest, they really don’t get that exposure. How could you know? Either you’re attuned enough to have an instinctive sense st is wrong, or you aren’t and you can miss it completely.

        I totally get what you mean about sensing something atypical but having trouble putting your finger on it. Sometimes it takes years for these things to really reveal themselves completely, too. My youngest brother had various communication/learning disorder diagnoses as a child but it wasn’t until adolescence that it became clear the real issue was mental illness. That wasn’t caused by a vaccine.

      • GreenieWeenie says:

        @easypeasy, yeah this was like 1980. 🙂

    • CTgirl says:

      The fact that the anti-vaccine folks are obviously emotionally invested in the decision by the guy that founded FB to vaccinate his own child just screams crazy. What do they care? They have Jenny McCarthy as their poster girl for their brand of insanity.

    • AG-UK says:

      Exactly. My son got the measles before his jab after a happy clappy music thing for kids. He still got the jab when he was well enough. Was awful under his fat feet and hands 😞

    • Betti says:

      I had measles as a child, bizarrely enough 2 weeks before i was due to be vaccinated; they STILL vaccinated me as they told my mum I could get it again and it could be worse than i had it before.

  5. Izzy says:

    If this was just about following the law for schooling purposes, why say anything at all? I do think it was at least taking their own personal stand on the issue in a public forum.

    Good for them. And imagine that, a doctor who believes in SCIENCE!

  6. Falula says:

    I’m sure it’s politically motivated. It’s important to vaccinate so I don’t mind the message, and I’m sure if I had 47 million followers I would use it as a platform, too.

    • Erinn says:

      I’m hoping that because he has this kind of platform, and this kind of positive sway with people, more young people will jump onto the vaccination train.

    • BRE says:

      Considering how anti-vaxxers use FB to push their unfounded ideas, I don’t see the problem with him showing his support. Plus, his wife probably has to deal with these crazies all time.

  7. Scal says:

    Mom is a pediatrician. Of COURSE baby was going to be vaccinated.

    It’s a sad day when routine health care is a political statement. The anti-vax people are really putting others at risk with spreading terrible misinformation and not vaccinating their children.

    • Eleonor says:

      They put other children at risk too…

      • Who ARE these people? says:

        And old people, and people with compromised immune systems (such as carriers of HIV). So inconsiderate.

      • BRE says:

        I’ve wondered if eventually we are going to see a lawsuit against a parent for causing a child that can’t be vaccinated to get sick or die. I’m not a lawyer so I’m not sure how likely such a case would be considered but it does bring up an interesting point of human beings responsibility to each other.

      • Veronica says:

        BRE- We’ve actually discussed this in one of pre-med classes regarding any case precedent that exists – and to some extent it does. There have been cases where HIV positive individuals who lied or intentionally obfuscated their status to partners were found legally responsible for their medical bills, now classified as criminal HIV transmission. I suspect that it’s a matter of time before that extends to vaccine preventable illness. One of the worse cases I heard involved a post-transplant patient who was asked by a relative to watch their children – failing to disclose that the kids were not vaccinated, leading to a long term ICU stay due to immune suppression as a result of the transplant drug regimens. How careless can you be?

        The problem with most anti-vaxxers is that they’re missing the broader implications of their decision. You don’t want to get vaccinated – that’s one thing, but it means you have to take responsibility for that decision. Every parent or adult your kid hangs out with has to be alerted of their status. The school needs to know. You shouldn’t be taking them to large events or amusement parks, hospitals, elderly homes, etc. Everywhere you go, somebody is at risk.that’s what is really missing from the conversation – empathy and responsibility.

      • Algernon says:

        @ Veronica

        My experience with anti-vax parents has been that they know full well the larger implications of their decision and they don’t care. Their precious little Vanity or Grover is more important than public health and safety. Part of combating anti-vaxxers is also addressing the specialness of children. Kids aren’t special, there are billions of them. You love your kid, great, but your kid has no more right to be alive *and healthy* than any other kid.

      • littlemissnaughty says:

        Veronica, I agree that most of the people who refuse vaccinations for themselves or their kids don’t think further than their own doorstep and that’s awful. But there is a difference between being infected/ill and knowingly putting people at risk or simply having a higher chance of getting ill and infecting others unknowingly. If you have to disclose to everyone that you’re not vaccinated, that really only punishes the kids of these nutters. It’s different for public schools or kindergartens. They should be allowed to ask and tell other parents. But I don’t think anything more would be practical. You can, after all, catch a virus even if you’re vaccinated. To put it bluntly, life is risky. I’m not talking about the transplant patient. That’s just an a-hole move.

        To me the problem is that most people don’t realize that this anti-vaccine movement is a thing. Most of us assume that kids are vaccinated. It’s hard enough being a parent and now everyone has to be on the lookout for cute little time bombs because you never know who’s anti-vaccine. Educated people lose their minds. It’s ridiculous.

  8. suze says:

    Yes, I think so, and I agree with the message.

  9. Goats on the Roof says:

    Most of the anti-vaxxers I’ve had the misfortune of listening to have no background in science and are educated strictly from the University of Google. Priscilla is a pediatrician. She’s not getting her information from Jenny McCarthy or Kristin Cavallari. I’m not surprised at ALL that they’ve chosen to vaccinate little Max (so cute, btw), and I’m happy they’re using their fame as a platform.

    • Beatrice says:

      University of Google–So true and tragic. I find anti-vaxxers can quote fact after fact but they never look at the credentials of their sources, many of whom have been discredited by the medical profession.

    • BRE says:

      So true. Everyone I know that is anti-vaxxers didn’t even go to college and get any advance science or chemistry.

      • Who ARE these people? says:

        And sadly, you don’t even need advanced bio or chemistry to understand how vaccination works. It is easy enough to grasp at a much younger age — if it’s taught. And that’s the big “if.”

    • Lucy2 says:

      I don’t know if some of them even google. I just had a high school friend on FB share a story about a girl who died from the HPV vaccine. Except if you actually google the story, you see the medical examiner determined the poor girl actually died from an accidental overdose of ITC cold medication she was taking because she was sick. People are so quick to believe and share stuff they have no idea about, without taking a moment to see if it’s true before they spread it further.

  10. lilacflowers says:

    We do not need a repeat of Reagan’s vaccine debacle, which killed hundreds. Another reason to consider this election seriously, especially as many members of the controlling congressional party want to slash CDC funding.

    Max’s little outfit is everything.

    • Who ARE these people? says:

      Vaccination programs should not be subject to political whim. But as someone who finally, finally read up on the Reagan administration (lack of) response to the unfolding HIV/AIDS epidemic, I feel sick about how much public health is left in the hands of the ignorant and spiteful.

    • Solanacaea (Nighty) says:

      In my country, vaccination is regulated by the Ministry of Health, and usually, when changes to the program occur, it’s only to increase the number of vaccinations available … And they’re free, even the ones like flu shots, etc… I always take the flu shot since I work in a school, as my own protection and that of the kids, colleagues, etc..

  11. Nancy says:

    Good for them. This is a brilliant man who has achieved more than most will in a lifetime. Hopefully with his youth and access to young people will at least make those against vaccinations take notice. Their baby is just adorable. Max…

  12. Who ARE these people? says:

    Of course he’s making a statement – and a good one!

    “Yet, many Americans, including Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump, doubt the medical efficacy of vaccines and have pointed to their potential dangers.”

    What stupid reporting. “Many Americans” = how many exactly? And since when was DT representative of “many Americans?” And, ahem, “their potential dangers” would be? In that case, the correct word would be “so-called.” This kind of so-called journalism only underscores the problem.

    Betcha 100 to 1 Trump’s kids got their shots. But did any reporter check it out?

    • cr says:

      ‘Many’ is very much a weasel word.
      Though considering DT’s popularity he’s representing quite a few Americans, though not necessarily on vaccinations.

      Just FYI, here are some numbers from back in 2011:

      • Who ARE these people? says:

        Thanks, cr. Fascinating, especially the maps showing regional and state variations. The darned thing is that low vaccination rates aren’t necessarily associated with poverty … the epicenters can often be areas with people who are ostensibly better educated, but still think they “know better.”

        Quoting Trump, a hotel developer born into wealth and hate-mongering Johnny-come-lately to populist politics, on his “beliefs” about vaccinations is just a way to insert his name into a story.

        If they’re going to drag candidates into the story, cite as well DT’s counterpoint:

        “Further, Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders, (an independent socialist who caucuses with the Democrats) said, “I think obviously vaccinations work. Vaccination has worked for many, many years.” He went on to note, “I am sensitive to the fact that there are some families who disagree but the difficulty is if I have a kid who is suffering from an illness who is subjected to a kid who walks into a room without vaccines that could kill that child and that’s wrong.”

        Get me rewrite!

  13. ali.hanlon says:

    Sad that so many people consider vaccinations so wrong.

    • Nancy says:

      So true. I still have friends who won’t get flu shots because they insist they will get the flu. I’ve given up trying to educate them. Once someone gets something in their head, it’s hard to persuade them otherwise. And this is why those dreaded diseases from the past will resurface. They make a mockery of Dr. Salk and others like him who eradicated polio and other life threatening diseases. The ignorance of the small factor of fear mongers is beyond reproach.

      • Who ARE these people? says:

        I have a hard time with people in middle age — “old enough to know better” — who visit their elderly relatives in assisted living and nursing homes…but refuse to get the flu shot because “it doesn’t work.” I think they’re just scared weenies avoiding a little jab.

      • Nancy says:

        WATP: So true. My sister is an administrator for a nursing home and all personnel are strongly encouraged to get flu shots. The elderly are more vulnerable to the flu and visitors walk in the door with it. Same thing with hospitals and schools. I don’t get it. Todays generation is full of people with sleeves of tattoos and yet they’re afraid of a pin prick. Funny thing is that if they get the flu and it turns into pneumonia or worse, they’re going to suffer more than a shot. Geez, I literally didn’t feel it. Dumb arses.

      • Who ARE these people? says:

        Nancy must be so frustrating for your sister to be aware of this. It’s just so pathetic to see grown people avoiding the flu shot. Even if they think “it doesn’t work” (which is not true; it’s just not 100% and varies by year’s best guess, but it’s more than good enough to justify widespread vaccination every single time), they should take one for the team.

        Every few years I react a bit to the flu shot but my thinking is, “If I had the flu it would be 100 times worse.” I remember the last time I had flu — before there were easily available annual shots — might as well have lain down in the road and let an 18-wheeler roll over my legs.

      • SloaneY says:

        Just as a personal anecdote: never had the flu vaccine. Maybe had flu once my entire first 28 years. Got a flu shot at 28, had the flu twice that year. Haven’t had one since, haven’t had the flu since, in almost 10 years.
        It may not be scientific, but for me, personally, that’s all I need to know for making my own decisions about the flut shot.
        Also, my kid had a terrible months-long reaction to his vaccinations. It does happen. And way more often than you think because doctors wave you off and say it has nothing to do with it and don’t report.
        Look up studies regarding vaccines and anaphylactic food allergies. Vaccines aren’t perfect. I’m not anti-vax, but I think way more research needs to be done into adverse reactions and long term complications.

      • Solanacaea (Nighty) says:

        @SloaneY I’m a teacher and I get the flu shot every year because of the students, colleagues and myself. Before doing so, I used to have sinusitis crisis every single year (always had to take antibiotics). After starting taking the flu shot, bye bye sinusitis, no colds, no flu, nothing…

  14. Talie says:

    God, that measles outbreak is just like American Horror Story!

  15. Tiffany says:

    The real message is not vaccine, that is just a red herring. It is all about the onesie. All about the onesie.

  16. OSTONE says:

    Someone posted this and credited John Cleese with it, and I repeat: “I would like for 2016 to be the year when people remembered that science is a method of investigation, and NOT a belief system”. Kudos to the Zuckerbergs for vaccinating Max!

  17. mytwocents says:

    Literally first world problems!
    If these people were living in a different part of the world they wouldn’t even imagine raising these arguments against! it’s because we’ve come such a long a tremendous way in overcoming what once were major life risking illness and the they are living in what I guess is the “western” world that they can even raise these ridiculous arguments.
    Don’t know if it’s a statement but good for him!

    • Who ARE these people? says:

      Where I live, the public health people says that immigrants are the first people to line up for vaccinations — they understand their value and have seen firsthand what happens without them.

      • The Eternal Side-Eye says:

        You’re damn right they are, in many other countries vaccines are distrubuted freely or begged for by the population. Those who don’t have the luxury know how sacred they are and how quickly life can end without them.

      • mytwocents says:

        Exactly! It’s infuriating that these privileged uneducated (or miseducated) individuals treat it as though it’s a lifestyle choice- it’s not! It’s a lifesaving choice!
        Of course they can only do so because previous generations did actually have the common sense to get vaccinated.

      • Who ARE these people? says:

        What’s sad is without effective vaccination programs, we basically have first-world areas turning into third-world areas from the child’s point of view. No vaccinations, unpasteurized (“natural”) milk … what next, go play in open sewers?
        People should be more concerned about heavy metals (lead) in water pipes and air, not vaccines, and about pesticides in milk instead. The focus is all wrong.

        Lifestyle choices are, like, “Ice cream or frozen yogurt?” not “Live or die?”

  18. Spaniard says:

    I can’t believe they are saying vaccines kill more people than it helps…
    How do they explain that since medicine evolved and we got more vaccines and medicines illnesess that would spread like crazy and kill people have been controlled and almost completly erradicated?

    • Who ARE these people? says:

      Shhh! You’re thinking and being logical again! : )

    • littlemissnaughty says:

      It’s a conspiracy between governments, big pharma, and viruses. They all work together to fool us by killing fewer people. Sneaky bastards.

      • Who ARE these people? says:

        Ha Little Miss. To be fair to viruses, they’re not part of any conspiracy – they’re just so happy to be set free by the anti-vaxxers, and go about their work honestly and with great passion.

  19. DavidBowie says:

    Good for them!

  20. Syko says:

    At the time I was first married, the only vaccines available were smallpox, diptheria, tetanus, whooping cough, and polio. My husband and I had very good friends who had a four year old daughter. Little Theresa died of measles. It was such a shock to me (by then I was pregnant with my first) and I’ve been on a soapbox about vaccinating ever since. Thankfully, the measles vaccine came out when my children were small. They got every vaccine, except the youngest did not get the smallpox vaccine, because by the time he was born, it was no longer being given. My kids had to have chicken pox, and mumps, but kids today don’t have to.

    Now I understand all the anti-vaxxers are refusing the Vitamin K shot given to newborns.

    It’s a sad world when people are more willing to listen to the rants of a celebrity than to the advice of their own doctors.

    • TheOtherViv says:

      Totally. I was born before measle vaccination was common or mandatory and both my brother and I had them before we were vaccinated- I pretty much was on the brink. My mother, a physician, always talks about how ill we were and how elated she was when we recovered- a child in my kindergarden didn’t. Many kids and adults have died from this. And no, I am not 80, I am 43. This is not so long ago. And a virus can be with us for millions of years. Let’s be grateful for scientific advancement.
      And this is the first Zuckerberg thing that I genuinely like.

    • Who ARE these people? says:

      Oh my.

      1. Vaccines can and do cause permanent damage for a portion of the population.

      They do not. Where are all these damaged people? Oh, right, they’re actually healthy – free of smallpox, polio, measles, mumps, rubella, chicken pox…

      2. Quite often the vaccines cause the very diseases they are meant to prevent.

      Almost but not quite. Vaccines stimulate an immune system response to the “very diseases they are meant to prevent.” They’re supposed to! That’s how they work. But the generation of antibodies is not the same as the instillation of disease.

      3. Vaccines go through a shedding period where the recently vaccinated person can infect others.

      See Answer 2: No. Vaccines do not cause disease. Some people were already infected before they were vaccinated/the vaccine develops full power, and so they seem to “get sick from” the vaccine when it’s really just bad timing. A coincidence. Conclusion: Get the flu shot a few weeks ahead of the start of flu season.

      4. Vaccine induced herd immunity is a myth.

      No it’s not. Vaccines causing autism is a myth and what’s more, the origins of that myth (Andrew Wakefield’s falsified data published in Lancet) are well documented.

      5. Outbreaks happen in heavily vaccinated communities.

      Outbreaks of something other than what was vaccinated for, perhaps? Many of us would like to see citations about this and any of the above.

  21. SusanneToo says:

    That is one cute baby. And I hope that is an overt political statement to the anti-vax flatearthers who probably also still believe that fluoride is a commie plot.

  22. Flounder says:

    I’m in the medical field. Vaccines save lives and anyone who says otherwise is ignorant. They do not cause autism. Read a medical journal, not some baseless statement made by Jenny McCarthy.

  23. Lucy says:

    I can’t believe this debate is an actual thing that’s happening. I can’t wrap my head around it.

  24. spidey says:

    I can remember the last outbreak of polio in Britain in the 50s – there was a mass vaccination programme. Someone above me at school finished with a permanently damaged leg and the mother of three others has spent the rest of her life in a wheelchair. Adn they were ones who survived.

    There is no polio in the UK now, nor smallpox. I got measles before the vaccine came in, not a pleasant disease.

  25. Mimz says:

    It’s strange to me that people would be against vaccines, even if I can see where they come from. I live in a continent riddled with poverty and disease, and where a LOT of people decide to let the sick die rather than try the “western medicine”.

    This type of stance (on this post) comes from a place of privilege, yes, IMO. People will drink water from 30 different roots because and aunt said so, rather than take an aspirine or a painkiller. Or the meds to cure a serious disease. People would rather die.
    I, for one, am admittedly a privileged african woman, was born here, spent the first 6 years of my life in a country in Europe and whatever I got vaccinated with, it worked. I kid you not, I am 30 years old, and never had: chicken pox, measles, or any of those diseases. My sisters did get chicken pox but that’s because they didn’t get the same vaccine i did (they are older than me and we only moved to europe when I was born), but they got the standard vaccines we get here in Mozambique.
    People are often surprised to hear I have yet to get any of those diseases (believe me, my parents TRIED when I was a kid to get it over with but I just didn’t get sick… yet).

    So, yes I am PRO vaccines. My continent, my country, we need it. The world needs it. It saves lives. I am thankful for my good health because I got a vaccine at the time that most people my age here didn’t get the chance to get, because I was in Europe. We should all have access to them.
    And I wish this whole “western medicine is poison” mindset would go away. Too many people are dying because of unfounded beliefs.

    • Snowflake says:

      Agree! It’s amazing to me how people can be antivaccine

    • Who ARE these people? says:

      Thanks for your contribution and so glad you were vaccinated.

      Thought of something else. Many of the anti-vaxxer mothers are wealthy. They can afford to stay home and nurse their kids if (when) they get sick.

      My mother nursed 3 children through measles, mumps, rubella, chicken pox. One after another, bam bam bam.

      What are the odds a working woman gets time off today to deal with this? Vaccination saves lives and, by preventing the spread of costly, time-consuming disease, also saves parental time, doctor time, hospital beds…and all the costs and consequences that come with disease as it spreads and worsens.

    • Jaded says:

      Thank you Mimz for your words. Sometimes it’s like trying to talk to 2 year olds when you’re dealing with an anti-vaxxer.

  26. My Two Cents says:

    I do not understand why there is even a debate on vaccination. Those who oppose them should visit any one of the third world countries where they do not have access to vaccinations and see how well not vaccinating the masses works. Why are so many people so controversial these days?

    • word says:

      You don’t need to go to a third world country to see that. You can visit states like Michigan where the vaccination rate is extremely low. They have really high rates of diseases that are preventable with vaccines ! I don’t understand people.

    • TheOtherViv says:

      Good call. But actually: Please DON’T go to those poor countries because your unvaccinated behind (or your child) may actually infect those people who don’t have access to vaccine OR medical treatment.

  27. MattyLove says:

    I seriously commend him for doing this. And, yes, I believe that he and his wife made this post thoughtfully and intentionally. It is important that people such as himself speak out in support of vaccination. We need to counter the very loud and misinformed anti-vax movement with examples such as this. Someone with enormous privelege, wealth, and education saying “we vaccinate.” It will take people in positions such as this to counter the almost-criminal influence of Jenny McCarthy.

    • Who ARE these people? says:

      Me too, and I think they picked the cutest little onesie to help.

    • word says:

      Jenny McCarthy makes me angry. She was so against vaccines but has no issue injecting all that botox into her face. We’ll see years from now the harm botox is going to do to all these women.

  28. Snowflake says:

    I didn’t know that info about the study, good to know.

  29. nic says:

    Mark Zuckerberg and Dr. Pricilla Chan are awesome.

  30. noway says:

    OMG people are really stupid!!!!!! The mother is a pediatrician. Aside from the fact that scientific and statistical evidence indicates that it is safer to vaccinate than not, she is a doctor who would most likely favor where the medical community is on this subject. News flash the majority of the medical community believes in vaccines. Yes there are a few outliers, but hardly the majority, and I believe the anti-vaccine movement would know that. Why would this be a story. Of course a pediatrician is going to vaccinate their child!!!! She’s cute though and they look happy, love the coat.

    • Who ARE these people? says:

      She’s also a pediatrician working in/near the epicenter of the anti-vaxx movement, the Bay area and its wealthier enclaves. She’s in a position to make a bigger difference than a pediatrician working in, say, the middle of Indiana and not married to Zuckerberg.

  31. AlmondJoy says:

    That baby is soooo cute 😍😍😍

    I seriously can’t believe that people get mad at other people for vaccinating their child. Let people choose what’s best for their own family! I’m pro-vaccine but I don’t disrespect those who are anti. It’s not my place to judge their decisions.

    • Algernon says:

      It is when their decisions put the most vulnerable in our society at risk. Anti-vaxxers put people at risk. They are no different from drunk drivers.

    • noway says:

      I really don’t understand why the anti-vaccine people would be against another parent expressing their ideas, especially when they want the rest of the world to listen to their no empirical facts point of view. According to them they can spew their ideas, but Mark and Patricia can’t have a differing point of view. If I have to listen to them, then guess what I get to listen to the other side too, just the way it works. Sorry the more intelligent point of view owns Facebook, oh well funny how that works.

  32. Chelly says:

    Its personal choice & up to the parent(s) to decide whats in the best interest of THEIR child. These anti-vaxxers sound just as preposterous as anti-abortion & extreme animal activists. People just love having a public forum to spew their venom & word vomit

  33. The Eternal Side-Eye says:

    I just don’t have time to address anti-vaxxers, like how much energy do you waste on a person who thinks the sky is purple and can’t be convinced no matter what evidence you show them?

  34. thaisajs says:

    His wife is a doctor. Was there any thought that they weren’t going to vaccinate their kid on the schedule? This seems totally unremarkable to me. But Max is a cutie and it’s always nice to get a new photo of baby, especially one in such a fun jacket.

  35. nicegirl says:

    Good work, Zuck & family.

  36. TheOtherViv says:

    Can I say how WONDERFUL I find it that all you Celebitchy commenters (and writers) are a bunch of caring, educated and interested people? It is a delight to read comments that show enlightment, not hate.
    Not a small thing when it comes to social media. BRAVO

    • Elle says:

      I totally agree. This is the only site I like coming to because it is honest. And can I just say omg, seriously!!?? to these vulgar, delusional ppl who think they know more than history and the health care system combined!

    • Who ARE these people? says:

      I know, all this + pretty (or pretty ugly) dresses!

  37. Nic says:

    Given that she’s a doctor, I would have been shocked if they had opted not to vaccinate or to delay vaccination.

    And while it seems stupid that this is now a political statement (rather than just a standard childhood milestone), I’m glad someone famous is being open about how they ARE vaccinating (on schedule) rather than how they aren’t or how they are delaying vaccines. I have a friend who I always thought was fairly intelligent if a little kooky, until she started having kids and has refused to vaccinate any of them (oldest is now five), and she brags about it like this makes them super healthy. Granted, her kids have not actually caught any awful childhood diseases, but that’s more down to them coasting along on general herd immunity and being mostly kept at home (she is a SAHM and is now “unschooling”, so they’ve never been in a situation where there’s extended close proximity to other kids.

    Mark Zuckerberg has always struck me as kind of a prick but the more and more he exposes himself as a parent the more I like him.

    • Who ARE these people? says:

      Those sheltered kids are in for it once they’re out in the world.

      Kids raised around lots of other kids & in less than immaculate settings have stronger immune systems.

      Unschooling, eh? I wonder if she’ll unschool them in basic science.

      • Nic says:

        She and her husband are both college educated, and like I said, they always struck me as fairly intelligent until they started spouting the anti-vaccination stuff. I don’t get how they can fall for it to the extent that they have. At first I thought maybe they were just for delaying/spacing vaccinations (which I can kind of, maybe, sort of sympathize with), but at this point I’m pretty sure they are planning to just not vaccinate until the issue is forced in some way.

        She has recently signed the older one up for some team sports so I’m guessing their sheltered from disease time period is going to come to an end sometime soon. Will be interesting to see what they contract then.

    • noway says:

      I know a lot of people think of Zuckerberg as a prick, but it always bothers me because I think it has a lot to do with his image and the movie. I think Sorkin went to the extreme and that just solidified what some thought. I always felt he was just a bit young, immature, extremely brilliant kind of nerdy kid, and although I wasn’t that who really wants to be labeled with their teenage and young adult personality. With I feel like he is definitely growing into his own, and you are right as a parent he does seem to be growing on me.

  38. Doodle says:

    It turns out that I had missed my rubella shot as a child. When this was discovered right after my wedding by a doctor at a walk in clinic, she proceeded to tell me the horrible things that could happen to my unborn child should I catch the measles. I wasn’t pregnant yet and she pleaded with me to stay on birth control until I got the vaccination and that if I did get pregnant before that then to terminate the pregnancy. She was dead serious, you could see her honest concern for both me and this imaginary child. A week later I got the shot – and guess what, i did not become autistic, I did not become deathly ill with poison, and when I gave birth to my kids a few years later they were fine. I am so thankful this doctor caught this hole in my vaccination chart when no other Doctor did.

    • Who ARE these people? says:

      Rubella was the one I missed one young and, similarly, was vaccinated when I reached the child-bearing years. Good for you. When a doctor reviews a vaccination chart with care, I feel like she is doing one of the most important parts of her job.

  39. mia says:

    Last summer in Spain a 6 year old kid died from diphteria. The first case in almost 25 years in the country just because his parents decide not to vaccinate. The Spanish government ask a lot of countries even the states for a antitox serum, finally the russians give us some but he was already in a bad condition. Many doctors didn’t think about the disease during diagnosis because it’s almost erradicated in Europe (thanks to the vax).
    The parents claim that they were trickt but antivaxxers and hurry vaccinate their younger daughter.

  40. word says:

    This all started because of ONE study that said there was a link between Vaccines and Autism. That study has been debunked time and time again…but because of stupid celebs spreading false info, the public became scared. People need to read up on studies. You NEED to vaccinate your kids. The potential harm you are causing your child and OTHER people should be your main reason to GET the damn shots !

  41. anne_000 says:

    I seriously doubt that Trump didn’t have all his kids vaccinated. I’m thinking he’s vaxxed too, same with all the other adults who are anti-vaxx for their kids. Which is ironic since they themselves don’t seem to have been harmed from being vaxxed, and possibly avoided major illnesses because they were. Anyhoo….

    I’m sure Trump would love a nation full of unvaxxed people during his reign of terror, if he wins, which I hope he doesn’t. How quickly would he change his tune then after it’s so easy to bandwagon a cause just to get votes? Will he blame an outbreak on the Mexicans? Or Syrian refugees? Or Muslims?

    As if none of his wives or kids or himself ever got a vaccination for traveling to certain foreign countries. Sure. Let’s see a record of his family never getting vaxxed for even the flu. Let’s see the smallpox vaxx mark on his arm or wherever his parents had the doctor inject it.

  42. hogtowngooner says:

    Anti-vaxxers are monsters of the highest order. I imagine they have such a stunning inferiority complex that they will use junk science and confirmation bias (googling “vaccines are bad,” sharing anything that ‘confirms’ it without vetting the source one bit) so they can feel smart and superior. What’s worse, they are more than happy to sacrifice public health to do it. They are the embodiment of Isaac Asimov’s quote about anti-intellectualism: ‘my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.’

  43. Wentworth Miller says:

    It’s his baby. Who the hell are any of these people to tell him how he and his wife should raise their child.
    She sure as hell won’t be going to school with any of their kids, anyway and if they did, I bet none of those people would have anything to say, to him, face to face.

  44. Aries-Mira says:

    I am SO sick of this stupid, stupid argument! One side is based on science, research and facts. The other is based upon personal belief and lies. Vaccines save lives! Ask ANY parent who has ever had to watch their child die of a disease that could’ve been prevented: if they had the option of getting their children immunized, would they? Do you really have to guess what their answer would have been? Yes, there are reactions to having immunizations, and some are severe, but to those anti-vaxxers, I ask you this: have you, personally, seen infants/children suffer from Measles? From Polio? From Whooping Cough? Have you witnessed the anguish, the terror, and the absolute helplessness of parents who cannot do anything but watch their precious, beloved child gasping and struggling for breath in their arms, knowing that this breath could be their last? It is an example of the horrific reality of contracting such diseases, yet there are still idiots out there who claim this it’s poison, it’s big pharma conspiracy, it causes autism, etc.

    Unless you have a medical reason why you and your children cannot be vaccinated, don’t be a moron and go do it! Or do the rest of us a favor and stay isolated, locked in your home for the rest of your days. Your uneducated, unfounded, unresearched, celebrity-based opinions are not helping – they’re destroying lives.

  45. Jaded says:

    Once again, here is Jimmy Kimmel on anti-vaxxers:

  46. Bread and Circuses says:

    I’m pretty sure this was a case of parents saying, “OMG, our precious perfect exquisite adorable baby looks especially adorable in this photo! See, world? See what we made?!”

    I’m pretty sure a pediatrician and a computer programmer didn’t think for even half a second that they were being ‘political’ getting their child basic, important health care.

    • Magpie says:

      I had an anti vaccers tell me “polio wasn’t that bad”. Um, ok. Like you said the antis relay on others being “the heard”. Yeah, vacs are not fun, I’m not gonna lie, my child reacted (mildly) every time. But they’re done and she’s super, super healthy.

      I don’t believe in over vaxxing. I’m a very healthy person and am not going to get a flu shot for example. Chicken pox wasn’t pleasent for my child, but she got it for real and it’s done. For someone with an impaired immune system I’d say get it, but in europe all the kids get chickenpox (like i did as a kid ) and they are fine. But let’s not go backwards on the other stuff (polio) that kills.

  47. Pumpkin Pie says:

    She is cuteness impersonated !!!!!!!

  48. Lucky says:

    When my oldest son was a year old (in 1996) the chicken pox vaccine became available and was voluntary at the time. I was unsure about it so I called my mom & asked if I should have my son get it. She told me about having 4 little kids (aged 6 to 2) with chicken pox at the same time while being 9 months pregnant. We were all so sick, it was the worst 2 weeks of her life. I went back to the dr & got my son the shot!

    • Pondering thoughts says:

      When I was a child there was no chicken pox vaccine yet. I didn’t get chicken pox as a child but I got it as an adult. The worst 4 weeks of my life and quite some scars.

      The sad thing is that the trained nurse who collected my data wasn’t sure about vaccinating her own family’s children. Now that shocked me.

  49. Kori says:

    These are the things which make me absolutely crazy–and I’m pretty even-keeled. But the anti-vaxxers definitely do it. They do their own ‘research’ and since everything you read on the internet MUST be true, obviously all of the anecdotal information has to mean vaccines are dangerous. I mean, is there a risk in vaccinations? Of course. You’re told that at the time. There’s also a risk of dying to have the child you’re vaccinating in the first place. A child could have a bad reaction to just about anything. People die from aspirin and other ‘harmless’ medications because nothing in life is 100% risk free. Do some children wind up with fevers, rashes and other conditions after vaccinations? I’m sure they do since that’s a listed risk. But, as regards Trump, a SINGLE employee had this happen? What about the 1000s of children of your other employees? Or is it 1 child out of 10,000 or 30,000 or 100,000? Because if so, that’s probably actually lower than the average. This is what drives me nuts. I had a coworker who didn’t want to vaccinate her as-yet-unborn child when the time came. She knew of someone who knew someone whose child ‘developed’ autism after vaccinations. So what about every other person you’ve ever met in your life? Chances are they have been vaccinated and, unless you know differently, aren’t autistic. So you’ve met how many thousands of people compared to the ONE, again anecdotal, case. And that’s all this is–anecdotal evidence which proves nothing. And yet it is actually taken seriously and given credence unstead of being faced with the scorn it deserves. There is NO LINK between vaccines and autism. Vaccines are given at the age when autism symptoms start to present. Period. I understand if there’s concern about too many vaccines at one time–you can space them out without any risk to your child if it eases your mind. But to not vaccinate is tantamount to child neglect in my opinion–and I rarely make such definitive statements. So good for MK–I hope he WAS making a statement. A statement about what people should actually do for their children to keep them safe.

  50. livan says:

    I do not know if he meant for his post to be a political statement, good for him if he did! I have posted several times about my two boys getting vaccines and that was really the equivalent of updating about our breakfast or playtime in park!

  51. suzysunshine says:

    I respect the right of anyone to hold a certain belief and to articulate that belief however they choose. But when that belief affects the health, safety and security of the general public it’s game over. She’s a Pediatrician for goodness sake. I’m assuming DR. CHAN is familiar with the latest science on vaccinations, scheduled, risks, side-effects etc. and as a MOM has decided to vaccinate Max. The anti-vaxxer movement is a dangerous and scientifically uninformed one.

  52. Kath says:

    My brother is a hard-core Anti-Vaxxer and neither of his toddlers are vaccinated, despite him regularly taking them to developing countries. He relies on herd immunity and on OTHER people vaccinating their kids, and then turns around and says vaccines aren’t needed because his kids haven’t gotten sick (yet).

    All this is courtesy of the University of Google and conspiracy theory websites.

    Meanwhile, I have a Masters in Public Health. Drives. Me. Effing. Nuts.

    Oh, and he’s also one of those who thinks that Bill Gates’ drive to vaccinate in Sub-Saharan Africa is a form of ‘eugenics’. I kid you not.

    • Jaded says:

      Oh Kath you’re kidding….what a horribly selfish and uneducated stance to take. I truly hope and pray your little family members stay healthy. Why do people believe the nonsense on fatuous blogs instead of actual scientific proof….????

    • Kath says:

      Thanks Jared. Yeah, it worries me greatly.

      The anti-vaccine stance reminds me of the food-narcissism stance (‘I only eat macrobiotic, gluten-free organic paleo food hand-picked by virgins in Bhutan) – it represents the height of first-world cluelessness.

      I guess not having seen a polio, measles or tuberculosis epidemic first-hand means that this generation can live in blissful ignorance and think that immunisation is simply a con by Big Pharma.

  53. Magpie says:

    Like a poster said above i’m so happy to see such rational intelligent thought on celebitchy! We can argue about who/wore/what/best/why, but this is serious. I understand the distrust against big pharma, so all the reason more to monitor what is being injected into our kids… but to go back 50 years is insane!

    People were scared as all heck of Polio and I know many who were crippled and could have died. Like said upthread, anti-vaccers are living in their own white privileged world, heard immunity exsists!

    Oddly this is an issue where the far left and right unite. I know lots of lefty anti-vaccers and tell them they sound like Christian home-schoolers. They hate that 🙂

    Kudos to Priscilla and Mark for using their platform to advocate what they think is right. Everyone else does, so why shouldn’t they too? And yes, it’s political. Bravo, good for them *claps*.

  54. Korra says:

    I’m so f*cking done with this. I want to kick every anti vaxxer in the crotch for their stupidity. First world issue if there ever was one. “Oh we have a CHOICE to get vaccines! Of course we wouldn’t take them!”

  55. jmho says:

    I was talking with a colleague about this when we first met. We were both on a business trip and had dinner and somehow the topic came up. She said she didn’t vaccinate her kids because of all the stuff that’s already been mentioned. She then looked at me (my face was probably showing my disbelief) and said ‘What? We can’t be friends now?’ and my response was ‘No, we can be friends — I just don’t want your kids anywhere around mine!’

  56. Pondering thoughts says:

    Another user, Elsa Sakz, countered: “Vaccine is poison for human kind. It kills more people than it helps. I wish people don’t take it as an example here.”

    Oh seriously. Nope. Just Nope.
    Vaccines have saved many many lives of people who would have otherwise died of mumps or measles or …. or gotten infertile or developed severe problems.
    Yep, you can die from many things. And if you get a vaccination shot while you have some infection then you can develop some serious problems. But the thing is you shouldn’t get a vaccination shot when you have some other acute illness.

    Do your research and don’t believe everything people tell you. Check up on big pharma as well as on wingnuts of every kind.

    Yet, many Americans, including Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump, doubt the medical efficacy of vaccines and have pointed to their potential dangers. During a September 2015 GOP debate, Trump recounted that the 2-year-old child of one of his employees “got a tremendous fever” and “now is autistic” after getting vaccinated.

    1. How comes he is a presidential candidate?
    2. Yep, after a vaccination you can get a bit of a fever which is why the doctor tells you to lie down and take it easy on that day you get the shot.

  57. Anu says:

    Gosh – I am not a fan of Marc Zuckerberg nor of vaccines but I would never go off on someone about this. Isn’t anyone allowed to act how he likes it???

  58. yep says:

    I am one of the last for smallpox vaccine. You are welcome.
    As for parents who decided that vaccinating their children is not up for discussion, they should be brought up on human violation charges.
    Back in the day, my neighbor friend Natalie, had a beautiful baby girl. Barely a month old, that sweet baby got whooping cough. She didnt have her first vacs yet. Ever see a baby with whooping cough? It is freaking horrible. Spent two months in NICU.

    My mother, caught measles at 55! She didnt even think about booster shots. And you know what she worried about? She prayed she didnt expose it to anyone pregnant. And sick? Omg was she sick. She was down for over a month. She couldnt move.
    I understand the anti vax peeps are hoping for herd protection. But what if their child had gotten ill from a preventable disease? What if their child died or the quality of life diminished because of the disease? Would they change their minds then?
    What about the ones who cannot be vaccinated ( new infants) or are vulnerable with their health, and they exposed those people and those people unnecessarily died?
    Have they no shame in that knowledge?
    Im joyous that Max’s father put that out there.
    It put it up for discussion and also the refuted absolute bullshit paper against vaccines. So those who are against it dont have a leg to stand on. Because people forget.