John Goodman sat down with Howard Stern this week to promote his new movie, 10 Cloverfield Lane. We rarely talk about Goodman, not because we dislike him or anything, but because he usually isn’t much of a newsmaker. He works all the time, people love him, he seems like a really normal person. There’s no real scandal, you know? Even Rosanne Barr loves him, and she hates almost everyone. While chatting with Stern, Goodman talked about New Orleans, drinking, SNL, weight loss (he’s lost a lot of weight in the past year, after he gained weight back from his 2010 weight loss) and more. The biggest headline is probably the Kristen Wiig story though, and I still don’t know how to feel. Some highlights:
He was so excited to meet Kristen Wiig, he interrupted her conversation: “She was talking to somebody else, and I was just – I think she’s so great, and the social barriers broke down and I interrupted the conversation. And I would just hate for somebody to do that to me. And she goes, ‘yeah, I’ll talk to you in a minute.’ [makes sound of bomb dropping] It was like the Atom. I shrunk down to Atom size. …I really like her, and it was embarrassing, so I’ll never speak to her again.”
He’s sober now, but he used to drink at work: “I was drunk a couple of times during ‘[The Big] Lebowski,’ but that was way too many for me. That was something I swore to myself I would never do – drink at work. And then that – on Roseanne I started doing that.”
Whether he avoided the Vietnam draft: “I got a lottery number of 30,” Goodman revealed, but said they didn’t ask him to serve because when he went into for his physical they marked him down as being too heavy for his height after recording his height incorrectly. “I would have been the big baby of the Army,” he admitted though.
He loves Brie Larson, his ‘Kong: Skull Island’ costar: “She was so charismatic. She was like the only girl on set and every weekend she would organize stuff to do. We would look at kangaroos. She would organize a trip to an amusement park after it closed … Just stuff for people to do, because she’s nervous about people getting angry or getting on each other’s nerves.”
On politics: “I keep it to myself and it will, you know, give me the cancer… I hate political ads. I hate seeing people … getting swept up into a mob mentality.”
On Obama: “I just feel bad for Obama. As soon as he got into office they started kicking the s–t out of him. For no reason. … He could have a cancer cure and it’s like, ‘No, it’s not good enough.'”
The Kristen Wiig thing… I mean, I get it, she was in the middle of a conversation and God knows I hate it when people interrupt me or talk over me or anything like that. But still… it was John Goodman! The man is a national treasure! When John Goodman comes over and wants to fan-boy all over you, you hit pause on your conversation and talk to him, you know? It’s like… being interrupted by Tom Hanks or Jeff Bridges. You just let it happen because they’re awesome people.
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I get that interrupting is rude, and he even admits it in the interview, but that doesn’t excuse her being rude back. I don’t find her funny at all, so I can’t believe he wanted to fan girl that hard!
Or, she was in the middle of a conversation with somebody and didn’t want to be rude to that person by immediately dropping the conversation to talk to a celebrity who wanted to fangirl over her.
I didn’t say I expected her to stop her previous conversation? There’s a polite way of telling him that she’s in the middle of something. Plus, I’m sure the other person can see what’s going on and can cut both of them (Kristin and John) some slack.
Exactly. Women are expected to stfu when a man starts talking in the middle of their sentence, always for some very important reason of course. NO.
I agree. The way he tells it, he doesn’t think she was being rude (at least that’s not how I read what he was saying). We weren’t there, we don’t know her body language, facial expressions, etc., so why automatically jump to the conclusion she was rude?
Right? It was brusque but not rude. He was the rude one.
I agree with Lex. She handled it very poorly. She should have said to the person she was talking to, “excuse me for a second,” then turned to John Goodman and said, “How nice to meet you! I’d love to talk to you as soon as I finish up with my friend. Could I come find you in a few minutes?” There was no reason for her to be rude. Good manners are about making people comfortable. She shouldn’t drop the person she was talking to just because someone else came over, and she shouldn’t make him feel like a jerk for interrupting.
GNAT – I hear what you are saying. I’m not sure we can really say she handled it poorly though because we don’t really know what she actually said to him.
He was telling a story and used that phrase, but he didn’t say he was quoting her or say in any way she was rude. He was telling the story in the context of his own social awkwardness.
“I remember walking up to Kristen Wiig at a Saturday Night Live thing. And I actually interrupted a conversation she was having and I thought, What the f— is wrong with you? You don’t know this woman,” Goodman said. “But it’s that kind of a thing.”
I agree wholeheartedly with this! “Good manners are about making people feel comfortable.” – I love that. And yes, when someone interrupts my conversation, this is exactly what I do.
GNAT- You just gave me a great nugget for my boys! I love that “good manners are about making people comfortable”. I am going to use that & think it’s a great lesson. xoxo
I may be “impolite” but I’m not going out of my way to make comfortable people who are rude to me. And interrupting someone having a conversation is rude.
Perfect! I know John committed a faux pas but he’s such a teddy bear, I don’t like that she hurt his feelings even if he did let his fanboy get the better of him.
I get what you’re saying, but cmon, we don’t even know what the other person was saying to Kristen: “I have terminal cancer,” “My husband left me for my best friend,” “My mother died yesterday,” or “My nine year old is going blind.” Or maybe the person was saying, “You hurt my feelings when you ignored me at the last party.” Whenever we interrupt someone in the middle of a one-on-one conversation, we take a big chance that we are breaking in on a sensitive moment.
And honestly, Kristen wasn’t rude to him – she just told him she’d be right with him as soon as she’d finished talking with the other person. I think Goodman was wrong to tell this tale to the media. And the implication in his telling is: No matter WHAT she was talking about or whom she was talking to, she should have been so grateful and honored to have a National Treasure complimenting her that she ought to have been rude to the nobody she was talking to.
I agree & we shouldn’t make assumptions based on this story without all the details. She did acknowledge him & said she’d be with him in a minute (and might have said more in a better way but he was embarrassed & is re-telling the story). She has always struck me as a nice person so I think this story is off & should be more about his cute embarrassment, that he can be a fan boy then her being rude. He didn’t seem to be putting her down in his story. Also- kuddos to women pointing out that we shouldn’t be expected to react different when a male national treasure interrupts us. Would a man be expected to “be so polite”?! Or be torn down if he wasn’t?!
That’s not at all what he said. He never said she was rude. That may be the implication YOU have from his story, but it’s certainly not the one I have.
And yes, a man SHOULD be expected to be polite in social situations, just as a woman should.
Paranormal Girl, of course he said or implied that she was terribly rude and dismissed him in a mortifying way – that’s why he has announced to the world that he “will never speak to her again.” I stand by my opinion, above.
Feel free. And I stand by my opinion.
Exactly Kaiser, the man is a national treasure. I would be a blubbering idiot if I ever ran into him. Who doesn’t love Dan Connor???!?
He’s from my city and co-owns a restaurant near me. I haven’t run into him but others have.
I’m pretty sure no one will remember her in five years but he’s John Goodman.
Because she sucks as an actress and comedian or because she didn’t react to John Goodman the way people think she should have?
Because she sucks as an actress.
Because she’s not a good actress and she’s not even terribly funny.
When did John Goodman become a “National Treasure”? I don’t think so- he was self admittedly rude to interrupt her conversation. Did he think it was O.K., and she should be thrilled because he’s a national treasure?
Goodman IS a national treasure, END OF. National treasures can make mistakes too, and he’s all the more lovable because he admits that he was fangirling and admits he rudely interrupted her conversation and feels embarrassed about it.
Sometimes you just don’t think before you speak. I would have broken off my current conversation with a “Oh hey!” to John Goodman and included them both in the next exchange of words. It can be done so nobody feels slighted. The conversation with the first person can always be completed later.
lol, i had no idea he was a national treasure
he’s been in a couple of great movies but i dont care about him either way. i wouldn’t stop a conversation because he interrupted me.
So people are going to jump on her for this, when the only known fact is that he (self admittedly) was the rude one? Okay, then.
I really like him too, but we don’t know her tone or context here. Or the conversation she was having. I have off days too.
Yeah seriously? National treasure and this story was SO endearing but no, screw that. Rude is rude, not going to find a way to flip it on the woman and make it her fault somehow.
I agree. I keep reading the comments but thinking, if he had told the same story about interrupting a man would we even be commenting on this? Women are expected to be nice and polite at all times and always make everyone feel good. I don’t think John is upset with her, he’s just embarrassed.
No one is trying to flip it because she’s a woman. If the tables were turned and he dismissed her in that manner, we’d be calling him a jerk. It wasn’t a business meeting or anything. They were at a party. It’s not rude to go up to someone at a party to say hello, but it is pretty rude to say “yeah, I’ll get to you in a minute”.
Come on, haven’t you ever been to a restaurant and run into a table with someone you knew who was having a conversation, but you were surprised so you said Emily! or somehow interrupted? People have to adapt to the situation. There’s no reason for her to be rude.
Oh but his rudeness is excused right?
But GNAT how do you know she was rude? His phrasing might make it seem like she was dismissive but we don’t know what she actually said.
Interesting that this is being made into a bigger deal than it is when I’m sure that was not Goodman’s intention. Love him btw.
@qwerty
There’s never an excuse for being rude, but in this case, I don’t think it was deliberate. I think he was excited. But the fact that someone is accidentally rude to you is no excuse to be rude back. That’s what’s wrong with our crass, graceless world. People just love to be insulted and slap back, when there’s no need. She could have conveyed the exact same message in a polite way, but she is like most people these days, and had no idea how to do that. So she made him feel like a jerk for trying to talk to her.
@I Choose Me
I don’t know what she actually said, but we do know that she made him feel bad. He wasn’t complaining about it. He seems to think she was justified because he interrupted her. I’m just saying a person with better manners could have handled the situation in a way that made him feel less awkward.
Dismissive isn’t’ rude? Hmmm…..
Again though, GNAT, we don’t know if she said it in a rude way. Or what he was interrupting.
If I’m in the middle of a conversation and my toddlers butt in, I tell them I’ll talk to them in a minute. Not rudely, just letting them know I see them and will get to them. I’d absolutely expect a full grown adult to understand that concept.
Exactly, people are jumping all over her for saying she’ll talk to him in a minute. I mean, really? She’s in the middle of a conversation and she should drop it because he’s a “national treasure”? This is what I hate… there are different rules based on who the person is and that makes no sense to me. If it’s rude for Kim Kardashian to do X, then it’s rude for John Goodman to do X.
As soon as I read this, I knew people would jump on her too. First of all, we’re hearing it all as he’s retelling it, he may be paraphrasing what she said. Second, even if that’s exactly what she said, we don’t know the tone of voice, or if she seemed annoyed or happy. He didn’t share any of that, only that he felt really embarrassed for interrupting her, because he did the thing he hates people doing to him, and he did it to someone he obviously likes and respects. That’s it. Anything beyond that is reading into it.
Exactly! Sheesh.
Yes, you summarized this very well. I feel like people don’t read actual stories anymore sometimes and get riled up by the headlines! 🙂
That was how I took it. He’s embarrassed by his own behavior. He never said she was rude.
I don’t like it when interrupted but I equally don’t like it when I’m waiting to talk to someone. You can finish your sentence and turn and say hello to the other person rather than carry on your conversation and the other person wait. If the you dont acknowledge me within a reasonable amount of time then I just walk off. And never approach that person again. They have the social cue that I’m standing there they should invite me in. I do the same, let the sentence finish, make eye contact and acknowledge the third person.
Love him he’s truly a gem.
I agree. If you’re at a party, for example, there is an understanding that people will mingle and join different conversational groups. That’s the point of a party! It is really awkward to be standing there waiting and have no one acknowledge you — just not nice.
Even if it wasn’t at a party, suppose it was in the lobby of a hotel, or wherever, it would have been polite to say a quick hello to a fellow actor who just wants to meet you and is obviously not a creepy stalker. I think the fact that these are two famous people who obviously recognize each other is a factor. If a total stranger comes up to her on the street, of course the rules change, but obviously John Goodman means no harm.
Why is it rude to tell someone you will talk to them in a minute when you are in the middle of another conversation??
I. Mean. Seriously! If I’m in the middle of a conversation, unless you’re coming to tell me that the building is on fire, don’t interrupt me. Don’t walk over and stand there, expecting to be invited into the conversation. Don’t do that.
It wouldn’t take anything for you to wait until I’m finished.
None of the people who think she was rude should live in Canada, because where I live (Ontario), people will focus on the person they are speaking with 100% as if no one else is waiting. So you have to be patient, excitement or no. The plus is that once they turn to you, you have their undivided attention. We don’t know Wiig’s tone or expression in this situation, and for all we know a friend was telling her about her mother’s death the night before. He blurted out his excitement, which is understandable; she asked him to wait a minute, which is also understandable. This is not a problem on either side. I feel like this should be on John Oliver’s show: “Why is this a thing?”
+1 to what you said and how you said it.
If your at a party, what JG did is called mingling, not interrupting. It’s not rude to go up to someone and say hello. Given the context, yeah, she was being rude.
I think it’s more in how you say it. Admittedly, it doesn’t come across in print at all. So she might have been snippy or she might have been really nice about. You can’t tell with out being there.
Total non-story. The thing that kept coming up in the interview is how shy and insecure and socially awkward Goodman is. As a fellow shy, insecure and socially awkward person, I’ve had a lot of interactions like this in my life, and intellectually I know they really weren’t as big of a deal as I made them. A regular person wouldn’t even register the kind of things I obsess over.
That story wasn’t about him calling out Wiig, it was about how bad he is at social interactions and how much things like that affect him.
This^
Exactly. And I could relate to him. I did not take his story as calling her out, just relating a socially awkward interaction that she probably may not remember but he’s so embarrassed about, he probably won’t seek her out unless she speaks first.
Yeah, I think that’s what clicked with hearing his story. I understood his reactions and flaws to trying to show respect to someone be likes and not knowing how not to muddle it.
agreed. I totally felt for him because after something like that I’d be too embarrassed to speak to the person again.
Exactly! This is the story of my life. It takes so much for me to pluck up the courage to speak to people in certain situations, and because I’m so anxious, I may not handle it smoothly, just like he sort of bungled it with Kristen Wiig. And then you get shut down (and I’m not saying she was in the wrong! I get it; she was talking to someone else) and you shrivel up like a raisin in the sun hahahaha
That’s how I read it too.
🙂
+1,000,000
I like Wiig but I LOVE Goodman.
Well said. I’m the same way and got where he was coming from too.
I have a shy child so get what you are saying and read it similarly.
Yeah, Team John Goodman. I will admit, John Goodman has always been, and will always be, one of my celebrity crushes in part because Dan Conner is one of the greatest TV husbands of all time. Plus, he is just a damn fine actor. Kristin Wiig should have given him a HUGE hug and told the other person, to “hold on a sec. I have to speak to John Freakin’ Goodman.”
I’ve never even heard of him and I bet most people my age haven’t either. But because you happen to have a crush on him, the entire world should revolve around him? Maybe she didn’t know who he was. He’s hardly an A list celebrity.
You, sit down.
And don’t get up until you know who John g#ddamn Goodman is.
And get off my lawn.
I don’t know your age but I’m 30.
Love John Goodman from watching Roseanne.
I think most people have heard of him.
What Wiffie said.
“John Goodman” – Google him. We are waiting….
My kids even know who he is, from a little Pixar movie called “Monsters Inc.” Maybe you’ve heard of it? 😉
I am thinking Kristin Wiig will be a little mortified when she hears this story…he has a long history with SNL and is one of their most frequent hosts.
John Goodman is such a gem that stupid lists don’t even apply to him. He is so cool that even the Cloons takes a step back in his presence. Seriously.
Ok, well let’s put it this way, he’s Sully from Monsters inc. .Now do you know who he is?
Mid-20s and I LOVE John Goodman. I get what he’s saying he was embarrassed that he interrupted her. I mean she could’ve told him to just hold on but again he’s not blaming Wiig
@Wiffie Laughing hard! 🙂 “get off my lawn” indeed!
Ok so whippersnappers may not have seen Roseanne, but aren’t these millenials into The Big Lebowski?! The Cohen Brothers find time for John to shine in so many projects, he was priceless in Inside Llewyn Davis recently. I also love him in the Amazon show Alpha House playing a Southern Republican senator.
@Mrs. Darcy funny story I went to meet up with some friends at a bar, to drink & watch a baseball game I think. One of them was wearing a “the dude abides” t-shirt so I go so excitedly & say “the dude”! He had no idea what I was talking about, not watched the movie & said he only liked the shirt so he bought it. I had to explain to them that it was from the big lebowski which was a cult hit & played by Jeff Bridges. You’ll be surprised by the lack of movie watching that my generation does. I’ve met several who’ve never watched Star Wars (originals), Pulp Fiction, etc.
I’m sorry but I don’t watch much TV, rarely watch movies despite working in the industry, and just don’t pay all that much attention to celebrity culture. I only read CB articles on the actors I’ve personally worked with or the ones involved in the equality/feminism debate since that’s directly related to my job. I neither know nor care who this guy is. Frankly I find this “how dare you not worship celebrities!1!” pretty pathetic. The people I worship are NHS staff and teachers. Not celebs. I don’t worship the Kardashians either, and couldn’t name any of them except Kim, I guess you’ll find that equally perturbing.
Point is, there shouldn’t be one law for the famous and one for the rest of us. If you really don’t see what’s so disturbing about the flood of comments bashing a woman solely because she didn’t worship a celeb you admire, but rather treated him like she would anyone else, I don’t know what to say. Personally I don’t care who someone is, they could be the Queen or Meryl Streep, I make it a point of principle to treat everyone I meet exactly the same.
@Lizzie McGuire…(facepalm, millenials, etc!) It doesn’t surprise me, some (not all) twenty-somethings I meet are just not that into anything that’s not of the moment. There is a decisiveness, a knowing-ness and weird dismissive-ness about things that don’t grab them. I guess that’s youth, but I genuinely don’t remember being so….uninterested in everything that came before me at that age. I grew up watching everything from Bogart and Bacall to Hitchcock to Woody Allen, alongside modern stuff. I guess t.v. and film were my generation’s internet. This generation would rather watch Youtube “celebs” and snapchat or catfish each other or whatever, I don’t really know, I am old!
@Spiderpig I agree, there shouldn’t be a different law for the famous, for me anyway this did sound like a simple case of a person (yes a Woman, women can be rude too), being standoffish and rude to someone who, being her age, I know without a doubt she grew up with him in her living room /she knows exactly who he is, and whether or not you care about him, most people would care enough to say hello/not give him the cold shoulder. It’s not about sexism or ganging up on a woman.
I will say that this is a celebrity gossip site, and Kristen has had stories about her in the past that maybe give people a predisposition to not give her the benefit of the doubt here. And John Goodman, not being a young hot “A lister”, doesn’t often make it onto sites like this, so long time fans of his are obviously taking the opportunity to sing his praises, because whatever, that’s what people do.
Obviously none of us know what really went down, maybe Kristen will come out with her own spin on it and we’ll be like like “Ok that changes things”. I very much doubt anyone here would take issue with you not knowing the Kardashians, btw, and your final point is exactly what the underlying issue is here. The perception is, she did not treat him with the respect which he deserved, because he wasn’t perhaps special enough in her estimation to merit her attention. Not that he is better than anyone else, but he is most certainly her comedy peer and if she did dismiss him to talk to more “important” types, she herself is being superficial and not very cool.
spiderpig, you not having heard of him is not a reflection on his level of fame. If you don’t like celebrity culture, rarely watch TV and don’t go to movies despite working in the business (?) , there’s probably quite a lot of well-known people you haven’t heard of. The other Kardashians BTW are Karesse, Karaoke and Kabriolet.
Meh, we’re only getting one side to this.
I love this story because it does show how humble and normal he still is, that being said.
He was rude period. Even he admitted his social cues were off and he might have been barging into a private conversation without it being as adorable as he made it sound. She wasn’t wrong to not just give in. Let this not become the next idiotic celebrity feud.
Still, I did love his story and how he described Brie Larson. She sounds like she’ll be another pleasant workhorse in Hollywood.
I feel like this has been taken out of context and is one of those occasions where “tone” is key. Having heard the interview, I thought he was implying that he felt like he embarrassed himself so much, even if he knows he is being over-dramatic, that he could never get the nerve to talk to her again. Like this was his “star-struck” moment and he knows he acted the fool so he feels like he can’t ever approach her in the future.
How is she the bad guy? He was rude for interrupting. We don’t know who she was talking to or what she was talking about. She acknowledged him, which was the polite thing to do. She shouldn’t have to stop her conversation because he wants her time.
Sounds like they were in a room of people and the conversation groups were loose. Not a huge deal on his part, maybe a slight overreaction on hers-it would have been a polite kindness to diffuse his intrusion and not embarrass him further-, but ultimately not a big deal he probably just felt like it was. I’m more interested in the fact that Goodman can be humbled. He sounds awesome.
I know right. I thought it was sort of cute. Haven’t we all had moments when we unitentionally embarrassed ourselves? There was nothing deeper to it than a fanboy moment.
I heard the audio (love John Goodman!) and he was not expressing how rude she was, he was saying how mortified he was of being rude to her. He was talking about his social awkwardness in public places.
Meh, I’m not going to slam her for this. We don’t know who she was talking to, what she was talking about. She might have said it kindly to him to diffuse the interruption.
I heard it, too, and I agree with you completely. He was mortified by his own lapse in judgment, not calling her out for her behavior. He came across as a humble, self-effacing guy throughout.
That said, I think KW is so highly overrated that I am inclined to dislike her for her behavior anyway.
I have no idea who John Goodman is (Google says he starred in some sitcom decades ago?) but in no way is it rude to ask somehow who rudely interrupts a conversation to wait a minute. If I interrupted someone and they asked me to wait till they were done in their current conversation I wouldn’t even think about it, much less hold a grudge for months after!
Even if this Goodman person was really famous, so what? I dislike the idea that just because someone’s a celebrity, the rules of basic politeness don’t apply to them and everyone should just kiss their ass all the time. That’s an awful attitude.
It is if you do it rudely.
Ummm you might want to do some more research. He has an extensive body of work and that sitcom really is a cultural touchstone for redefining family on television. Someone who is irrelevant would not have been the host of SNL 13 times.
Ike? So dismissive of someone who has his impressive body of work because of age.
Exactly.
I’d be curious to see what the reaction here would be if an F-list reality tv star or a random non-famous fan had told this story – would people still be calling Wiig rude & even insisting that she should have dropped her conversation and given the interloper her full attention?
I doubt it, because the response here isn’t really about good manners. If it was, John Goodman having a great filmography would have no bearing on this conversation. If “I’ll talk to you in a minute” is rude, then it’s rude regardless of who it was said to, no matter how ordinary and unaccomplished that person might be. Nor does it suddenly become more rude because it was said to a “national treasure”.
“How dare you, he’s JOHN GOODMAN” isn’t outrage over lack of good manners – it’s about fans feeling like one of their fave celebrities is owed a certain amount of deference/obsequiousness (especially from “inferior” celebrities) and taking it as an affront someone doesn’t provide it.
LOL, I wonder people would react if she was talking to national treasure Tom Hanks and national treasure John Goodman interrupted them. What a dilemma!
I guess he never hosted SNL while she was a cast member? Seems odd to me they’ve never met. The story reads to me like she did NOTHING wrong in his eyes, and he just felt like such a goof, he’s embarrassed to talk to her now.
I got the same read. It was his embarrassing story. He didn’t try to spin it any other way. The headlines are out of context.
Shhh. Stop making sense. There’s no bad guy in this situation. I don’t get how this is a thing.
I’ll just hang out here with my like-minded pals.
I love being in good company! Nice to see you guys again. 🙂 I especially feel like I’m always agreeing with Kitten on threads.
I love Kristen Wiig but I LOVE John Goodman. I must have missed this in the interview. It was John’s perspective of his awkwardness and probably wasn’t as bad as it sounded. Or she had no idea who he was. I mean, he does look very different than he used to.
Personally, I have to go to events and parties and networking things a lot for work. I would NEVER say “I’ll get to you in a minute” to someone waiting to speak to me. Even if you say it in a polite way, its just clunky and poorly phrased. That said, I think after listening to the interview its possible those weren’t her exact words, and he built it up in his head because hes a fan and was so excited to meet her and then immediately mortified by how he had behaved.
It did make me so sad when he talked about filming Monuments Men. Did anyone else catch the stuff about Clooney and Damon? It made me want to cry that John FREAKING Goodman thinks he had nothing to bring to “that A list.” YOU’RE JOHN GOODMAN, YOU ARE A TREASURE!!
The part about Clooney and Damon jumped out at me way more than the stuff about Wiig, for sure. I couldn’t tell if they were excluding him on purpose or if he just didn’t feel worthy of hanging with them. Pretty sad, either way.
It didn’t sound like they excluded him, but like he was included, got intimidated and retreated.
Jesus Christ, he’s such an amazing actor and it’s ridiculous (but I get why) how he could think he’s not comparable to Clooney or Damon.
Oh John, you’re amazing. Never change.
Right?? The way he SAID it he just sounded like the kid picked last in gym class. Made me SO sad. I wish he would spill about Argo though, he was great in it!
Yeah but he was hanging with Bill Murrayon the set and going on bike rides together. Clooney and Damon were probably off crying because THEY weren’t in the cool group. 🙂
Thank you! Everytime I’m in New Orleans I keep my eyes peeled for him. I don’t know what I would do if I actually saw him. Probably just whisper to my husband “there goes John Goodman” because I would be so aftaid of bothering him.
Thx for the clarification. Context is everything, isn’t it? He doesn’t seem the type to slam other celebs, so I thought this was probably how the interview went, but then of course it gets twisted in the media.
However, I will jump at any chance to express my absolute adoration of John Goodman.
Reading that disappointed me as well. To tease me, my kids jokingly refer to John Goodman as “the fat guy from Speed Racer (movie).” It makes me crazy, because I think he’s amazing in everything I’ve seen him in, especially Raising Arizona, and O Brother Where Art Thou. My opinions were redeemed last weekend when my son watched Trumbo, and declared John Goodman the very best part of the film. In my mind, Goodman is absolutely an A-lister;wish he felt the same.
Yeah, I don’t get how this story is being spun. It sounds like he was rude to her and completely admits he was being rude and was so mortified by his own dorky behavior that he’s too embarrassed to talk to her again, but still thinks she’s great. Why am I not surprised that other sites are spinning this into “Kristen was a bitch to John Goodman”, though?
John vs. Kristen – manufactured controversy. The rest of the interview, very nice.
Goodman just seems socially awkward. i dont think you should let people interrupt you based on their status, i dont care who it is you shouldnt do it unless its very urgent.
Sometimes the only way to speak to someone is to attempt to join in an ongoing conversation, especially at a party. This was a Hollywood ‘do, not heads of state discussing World Peace. I think he’s being gracious by describing himself as in any way the awkward one here.
I’m really surprised by all of these delicate flowers who have never in their life been interrupted or interrupted someone else.
The day will come when Kristen wishes someone was so excited to see her, they interrupted her conversation. Was that conversation that important that JOHN GOODMAN couldn’t get caught up in the moment. I totally agree with his view on politics. He seems like a cool guy, is well liked and made it happen after starring in a sitcom. Works for me
I know, who could she possibly have been talking to that couldn’t hold on a sec? Did John Belushi rise from the grave?
I absolutely adore John Goodman. My mother met him decades ago when he first got to LA. She said he was an absolute sweetheart. He told her and her friends that he was an actor and that he had to make it. Something about not being able to go home until he was a success. When she saw him on the Roseanne show – mom was thrilled. She was like – he did it! He made it big! =D
*shrugs* I don’t think she was rude, just blunt. He admits he was the one who committed the social faux pas, and this story strikes me as more of a poke at his own embarrassment.
I’ve always got a bitch vibe from her, and now it’s confirmed. Sure, being interrupted in the middle of a conversation isn’t really polite (doesn’t bother me, though), but it doesn’t warrant being rude, either.
+1. Love John Goodman. I think Wiig gives off a highly arrogant vibe. Not casting aspersions on her obvious talent, but it is what it is.
Team John, all the way. He is not a gossip monger and would not have mentioned this unless she was rude/made him feel inferior in that moment. There are a million other ways she could have treated him. She could have welcomed him into her conversation (I don’t care what it was). She could have paused her conversation for a minute or two to be gracious and accept his attention. I do not like a lot of things I have heard about her, this kind of cements it. She thinks she is more important than you, whoever you are. Which is a shame, because she is funny and talented.
I should fess up and say I saw him in a play in London last year (American Buffalo) and he played what must have been hard for him, the straight man of the piece. He still managed to get one of the biggest laughs of the play by allowing himself one moment of sublime hamminess, when the intermission ended and the scene picked up where it left off in a freeze frame of him holding a telephone, he held it just few seconds longer than necessary and brought the house down. It was effortless, he is a comedy king, and that is all.
He is not a gossip monger and would not have mentioned this unless she was rude/made him feel inferior in that moment.
Sigh. While it’s true he wasn’t gossiping, just telling a story about his social awkwardness, there’s way too much projection going on here. Look I think the man is peachy with a side of keen but I think people’s love and respect of Goodman is clouding the issue. If you read the article, he’s still a fan of Kristen. I can therefore infer that if she was as rude as some people seem to think she was, then he would not still be a fan.
Ooh, boldface, how do we even do that here? ;-0
I gossip, therefore I (may) project in attempting to analyse the gossip. In this case I do project, because it’s a situation I can see myself in: speaking to some people at a a party, and John Goodman taps me on the shoulder, and my instinct, is it to tell him to….wait a hot minute? No, no it is not. Because that is rude, in my opinion, and yes, particularly because John is peachy keen.
He may still “be a fan”, of her work, but he says he would never try to speak to her again. Whether that is because he is embarrassed (something tells me she did not even remember this incident if she acted the way she did), it still exhibits to me that she made him feel embarrassed or inferior, and even if John accidentally busted into a convo about her latest pap smear, I could not give a darn. If she made him walk away in that moment, any nice person worth their salt would have chased him up afterwards. Yes, because he is John freaking Goodman, but also, you know, manners.
If you read more excerpts, you’ll see that the purpose of the story was that John is still insecure about his fame. The anecdote wasn’t meant to illustrate rudeness at all.
Thank you. It’s driving me nuts how this has turned into ‘Kristen Wiig is a bitch.’ Gosh, why we are all so eager with the pitchfork these days? Seems like there’s a lot of confirmation bias going on.
Kristen Wiig wasn’t rude or a bitch.
Listening to how he says it is far different to reading what he said. So many are commenting on the written word when it comes across differently on tape. He wasn’t saying Kristen was rude.
+10000
This should be the obligatory disclaimer on every story posted on these gossip sites. “Reading a quote is not the same as hearing and understanding what someone said.” That would eliminate 99% of the commenting though, so I assume no gossip site is going to adopt that policy any time soon …. 😉
This confirms what I ‘ve always suspected…..Kristen Wiig is a snot.
This non-story is really making me mad. There is no bad guy here. He was relating how he felt embarrassed because of his own behavior and not calling her out at all.
Holy h*ll, I should know by now people don’t read the whole story before reacting. *face palm*
Exactly !! This drives me nuts. I should be used to it by now, but this practice of taking a quote out of the original context and posting it as a click-bait headline is so annoying. It just plays into the fact that most people just see a headline and don’t even read the whole article, let alone listen to the interview that it originally came from, and jump straight to posting their ill-informed opinions.
Oh, and I heard this interview live on Howard yesterday. Wiig said to John Goodman, “I’ll be with you in a minute.”
Essentially, dismissing him.
Rude.
If anything, Goodman downplayed this exchange. He is extremely low key.
I bet she didn’t recognize him b/c of the weight loss.
If John Goodman wants to meet you, you drop everything you are doing and entertain him. You can ignore Clooney, Di Caprio and even Bill Murray but not John Goodman.
Ummm…if I was talking to Kristen Wiig and John walked up to us, I would interrupt her and start talking to him.
Me too :))
This story was posted on several websites yesterday. It was interesting to read through the comments on the various message boards and learn that 1.) Many people don’t find Kristen Wiig funny at all, and 2.) More than a few people had first-hand stories about what a snot she is in “real life.” I tend to believe she’s a snot, and only likes being “fan-girlled” by Jon Hamm types.
Why are we people assuming that Kristen Wiig was rude back? We weren’t there, we didnt hear HOW she sounded. Theres no indication from this story that she rolled her eyes or did a rude gesture. So why are we assuming that because she said “I’ll talk to you in a minute” that she was being rude? Wouldnt it have been rude to the person she was talking to if she stopped and started a conversatiion with someone else? What if the conversation she was having someone else was important? Seems kind of silly on his end to never talk to her again because she didnt drop what she was doing and talk to him back….when he admits that he interrupted her.
I love that he is talking about his drinking & being honest about it. Big hugs to him for that! It’s not fun to drink at work & I’m glad he is talking about breaking his own rules, not being comfortable about it & making a change. I love him more now then ever! Let’s focus on that nugget of the story 🙂
I appreciate someone publicly owning their embarrassment. Never speaking to her again seems a bit extreme though. I wonder what exactly was said.
Maybe he said “….and therefore I’m never speaking to her again!” in a joking or self-deprecating manner? You can’t hear the tone when you read it quoted here. He was probably making fun of his own awkwardness more than anything else, even with the part about never speaking to her again.
Ahh, that makes way more sense! He’s a funny guy. All in all, I feel like this is a nonevent that’s getting blown all out of proportion.
BITCH! LOL
This is the problem with these stories being posted from excerpts of a longer interview. It gets taken out of context and blown out of proportion. If you listen to the actual interview that he did with Howard, you can understand the way he meant it (and that he wasn’t saying KW was rude either). But when a short sentence or two is taken from the full interview and posted online where you can’t hear the tone, it comes across as something else. People think he was calling out Wiig, and he wasn’t. Neither of them are really at fault here, that wasn’t the point. He was just sharing an anecdote about social awkwardness.
Honestly I wish this practice of making a story out of a tiny excerpt from a longer interview (where nobody bothers to listen to or read the long interview, just the short tabloid story) would just die already. It’s nothing more than an attempt to feed the gossip machine and make one celebrity or another look like they did something wrong when they probably didn’t.
The headlines about this on many sites read “John Goodman Will Never Speak to Kristen Wiig Again After Party Interaction.” Man, talk about twisting things. Interrupting someone who is in a conversation with someone else can put that person in a rough spot. They most likely don’t want to blow you off or be rude (even if you were) but they don’t want to be rude to the person they were speaking to. John pretty much admitted this and said he was embarrassed by his social awkwardness in that situation. No need to attack either of them. I’ve never heard anything about Kristen being rude or mean to anyone before.
If the roles were reversed and Kristen interrupted John, people would be jumping all over her calling her rude and arrogant for cutting him off.
She was definitely rude. On par with January Jones and Zach Galifianakis.
I’m watching John on Entertainment Tonight right now.John reiterated he was rude and is socially awkward.His publicist agreed.This has nothing to with Kristen.He also said he is still a fan of hers.
I find this quote the more important one:
“She was like the only girl on set”
Jesus Hollywood, when will this improve???? A movie set is typically huge and there was only ONE female there?? Does that mean one female in the whole cast? And crew of course too. Women are shockingly underrepresented in film. Even extras are predominantly men. This needs to change!!!
I’ve interacted with John Goodman in business several times, and always found him to he extremely polite and respectful. I think he was merely expressing his embarrassment and awkwardness at his fan-boying in this story.
That said, nobody puts John Goodman in the corner!