Hillary Clinton, like her beloved Beyonce, carries hot sauce in her bag, #swag


I don’t normally think of Hillary Clinton as a “cute” person. I don’t need to find her cute to vote for her, you know? And I like that she’s serious and she’s not into telling perfect little PR stories and everything. But, with all that being said, this is a pretty cute interview with Hillary. She appeared on 105.1’s The Breakfast Club with Charlamagne Tha God, DJ Envy and Angela Yee. And while some of the stories go on too long and some of the time she comes across as pandering, it’s actually a charming, cute interview. She talks about how Bill proposed to her – he bought her a house in Arkansas when all she had told him was that she would “think” about marrying him – and she talks about her love of Beyonce. And yes, Hillary does carry hot sauce in her bag, #swag.

Ahead of Tuesday’s New York primary, Clinton appeared on 105.1’s The Breakfast Club Monday morning. In addition to talking politics, the presidential hopeful also recalled seeing Beyoncé perform at First Lady Michelle Obama’s 50th birthday party in 2014. “It was so amazing. We were in the East Room of the White house, and they had a stage set up and everything, and she had some of her backup dancers. I sat there and I was just amazed,” Clinton, 68, said. “Look, I’ve seen her on TV a million times, but to see her that close and in person [was incredible]. So, afterwards I was talking to President [Barack] Obama and he said, ‘Yeah, I saw you over there. Your mouth dropped open.’ I said, ‘Yeah! It was unbelievable! What an incredible performer.’ He goes, ‘Yeah, everybody in this audience who had never seen her before was all saying the same thing,'” Clinton continued. “I can’t believe it. It’s like a natural phenomenon.”

Clinton joked that she “totally” practices Beyoncé’s dance moves when she’s home alone. “I’m always in trouble when I try to dance in public. Have you noticed that? I have no coordination.”

Later in the interview, Angela Yee asked Clinton to reveal something she “always” carries with her on the road. “Hot sauce,” the politician replied. “Really?” Charlamagne Tha God and DJ Envy asked in unison. “Are you getting in formation right now? Hot sauce in my bag, swag!” Charlamagne Tha God asked, referring to lyrics from Beyoncé’s latest hit single, “Formation.”
“Hot sauce,” Clinton reiterated. “Yes!”

Charlamagne Tha God warned Clinton that some people who listened to her interview might think she was “pandering to black people.” Clinton anticipated that very criticism. In fact, she welcomed it. “OK!” she said with a laugh. “Is it working? No, seriously, I’ve been eating a lot of hot sauce—a lot of raw peppers and hot sauce. Because I think it keeps my immune system strong. I really do. I think hot sauce is good for you—in moderation. Let’s not go overboard.”

[From E! News]

Yes, she’ll say anything to win. So will every other politician out there. I’m not sure if I believe she’s always carrying hot sauce, but I’ll believe that at least one of her staffers has an emergency supply of hot sauce for Hillary. #HotSauceForHillary could actually be a good campaign moment?


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  1. MousyB says:

    Ughhh first black girls rock, then bill’s comments, now this?? Stoppp you dont need to do all this :/

    • ladysussex says:

      Yeah.. I don’t even believe she carries hot sauce in her purse, either. She’ll lie about anything to seem “relatable”.

      • tealily says:

        You know what, though? I swear I’ve heard her use this talking point before, long before “Formation.” I think she might actually carry hot sauce in her bag.

      • ol cranky says:

        She has mentioned her love of hot peppers and carrying hot sauce with her in the past – when she was not running for office but, ya know, some people will look for any reason to say something derogatory about someone they don’t like

    • Eden75 says:

      I posted it below, but here it is again. The article from 2008 in which she talks about this and has been doing since about 1992.


      • AngelaH says:

        Thank you! I’m a Bernie supporter, but this hot sauce thing is not new. She didn’t just make it up to seem cool. She likes it.

        And I had chicken and hot sauce last night in solidarity!

      • tealily says:

        Thanks, Eden75! I knew it!

      • annaloo. says:

        So does this mean Beyoncé ripped off Hillary too?


      • raincoaster says:

        Yeah, I followed the first Clinton campaign really closely and she said at the time that she carried Tabasco with her at all times. Anybody who claims she’s pandering hasn’t done the first bit of research.

  2. mimif says:

    Oh you mean #WhichHillary? Google Hillary transcripts or Hillary same-sex marriage, Keystone, TPP, financial reform… Charlemagne should have called her a Super Predator and laughed her off his show. #swag

    ETA: this was for GNAT

    • Lama Bean says:

      He actually did confront her about the superpredator comment. He started out (and probably still is) skeptical.

      Apparently it’s well known that she loves hot stuff. Jalapeños straight up like chips, etc.

      She’s pandering. Bernie is pandering. Everybody is pandering.

      • PunkyMomma says:

        She’s been touting the virtues of jalapeño peppers and hot sauce as an immune system booster since the 2008 campaign.

      • Esther says:

        Bernie has got the record to back him up. With Clinton you get a moderate republican who uses democratic voters to get elected.

      • mimif says:

        Yeah she’s a real Arkansas bama.

      • Naya says:

        Just watched this interview and it has to be said, urban radio stations are doing by far the best political interviews. No punches pulled. Theres no way Trump would ever show his face at one.

        And everybody is pandering. Bernie was on Ebros show a few weeks ago. He was asked whether he thinks that he gets an easier ride because he is a white male in contrast to Hillary. He swiftly diverted with a story about how his father was born in Eastern Europe but nobody is challenging his Amricanhood like they did with Obama. In other words, he was happy to acknowledge the race based privilege but not the gender based privilege. Why? He was speaking to a predominantly black and latino audience. Pandering squared.

      • Wren says:

        Of course they all pander. It’s how the system works. How successful you are depends on who you pander to and how much they think you’re authentic and not actually pandering.

        I’m so burned out on this nonsense. I think I’ve been burned out as soon as I started to pay attention to politics.

      • The Original Mia says:

        @Esther, Bernie wants to use Democratic voters to get elected. He’s not a Dem. He’s an independent/socialist. Which is why his constant attacks against the established party makes me scratch my head. He’s talking out both sides of his mouth, but voters are supposed to ignore all of that to get him elected as a Democrat. I don’t think so.

      • antipodean says:

        Hurrah, mimif is here, all is well with the world! Doffs my cap in M’s general direction.

      • Tiffany :) says:

        I am sorry, but how anyone can look at her record and call her a “moderate republican” is mind boggling. She has been very consistent on democratic issues (women’s rights, voting rights, gun control, pro-environment, education, infrastructure, etc.).

        Democrats nationally have evolved over the years. It is not surprising that someone who represents them has evolved in similar ways at a similar pace.

      • Dangles says:

        Evolved? Or moved further to the right?

    • doofus says:

      mimif!!!!!! WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN, GIRL?! xxoo to you!

    • The Eternal Side-Eye says:

      But the majority of the country was against gay marriage as recently as the early 2000’s. If put to a vote (and it was in one part of the country) it’d have failed with a resounding no. Gay marriage was something that had to be acknowledged as a legal right before it could be accepted and has now come into national acceptance.

      • Tiffany :) says:


      • Jess says:

        Not buying that weak excuse at all. Why should the LGBT community support Hillary Clinton when she only became a public ally in 2013? When Dick Cheney has you beat on marriage equality by supporting it 9 years earlier in 2004, I’d say that makes you a horrible and pathetic candidate. For christ sakes, Laura Bush even came out in support before Hillary Clinton. For someone who claims to be so progressive and ahead of the curve, she sure took her sweet ass time to declare her public support for marriage equality.

        I’d rather vote for someone who was publicly supportive of gay marriage YEARS before it became nationally acceptable by the majority.

      • The Eternal Side-Eye says:


        And you can 100% do that, but there’s logic that goes into understanding why there was no political growth in terms of the gay rights movement till the mid 2000’s.

        What Cheney or Bush personally believe means as much as what the average person on the street believes, however politicians have the burden of balancing their opinions with what the majority of Americans actually want. The majority of Americans were not in support of gay rights and in fact ‘Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell’ was considered being too gentle with the topic of homosexuals in public service for the govt. Many others simply wanted anyone homosexual to be expelled outright.

        Gay rights went to the vote on a state level in California and was quite publicly defeated. Polling during the time period set the majority of Ameficans against granting gay rights to legal marriage. It wasn’t till the majority of Americans finally started to view the LGBT community as fellow normal healthy Americans that laws were able to progress. It is only because of that majority shift that we’re able to see backlash against states that are trying to circumvent marriage equality today. Because of that we have continued societal pressure in the form of boycotts and companies refusing to do business which is the only thing that will PREVENT discrimination from happening.

        There was no flip of the switch. Some progress has to be created by a consensus of the majority. Otherwise you’re throwing spaghetti and praying it sticks (and it never does).

      • Original T.C. says:

        “Why should the LGBT community support Hillary Clinton when she only became a public ally in 2013? When Dick Cheney has you beat on marriage equality by supporting it 9 years earlier in 2004, ”

        Oh really? You mean the same Dick Cheney and Laura Bush whose husband got elected TWICE using the ‘Southern strategy to demonized gays and minorities? Same people who used the threat of gay marriage to mobilize their homophobic base for even elections for congress?

        The same Cheney and George Bush who were in office for eight years and did absolutely nothing to help the gay community? Both of them coming out of the blue to say they support marriage equality changed the lives of LGBT community how without action?

        The Clinton degragement syndrome is so extreme that you would use THIS example as being better? How many gay teens committed suicide when Cheney and Bush were telling their parents that gays do not deserve any rights and they shod pray the gay away.

      • Jess says:

        @Original T.C.

        lmfao thanks for proving my point. Did you even understand what I was trying to say in the first place? When Dick Cheney and Laura Bush come out in support of gay marriage years before Hillary Clinton EVEN AFTER THEY PULLED ALL OF THAT HORRIBLE SHIT AGAINST THE LGBTQ COMMUNITY, that makes Hillary a PATHETIC FAILURE.

        When two horrible republicans come out in support for gay marriage years earlier than a supposedly super liberal candidate, that makes her a FAILURE on LGBTQ issues. Maybe she should stop acting like she’s a champion of progressive causes when she’s already proven that she will not support something until it politically benefits HER.

        And please don’t f-king preach to me about “The Clinton degragement syndrome” when you’re proudly defending a candidate who took decades to publicly support marriage equality.

        @The Eternal Side-Eye

        I get that the public support was lacking before the mid 2000′s but I would honestly much rather support a candidate who’s isn’t afraid of alienating their base and actually fight for progressive causes.

        A lot of her record is pretty shady (especially that iraq war vote which is just inexcusable tbh).

  3. missmerry says:

    really, you think she even carries a fu*king bag?

    she lies through her teeth to these peoples faces, they laugh in her face, and she thinks shes doing good.


    i would have appreciated an honest answer besides a practiced Beyonce quote: “well, I’m running for president so I don’t usually carry my own bag around, but I always have _____ with me wherever I am”

    she could have said chapstick and made herself look more like a human to try and fool us.

    • Merritt says:

      And was she lying in all the interviews where she has said this over the years? This is not new information. Just because you want to pretend not know how to Google, doesn’t make it new.

      • doofus says:

        yeah, THIS.

        I am by NO means her biggest fan, but she’s been talking hot sauce/hot peppers for years now.

      • V4Real says:

        A lot of us know that Hilary has ben a fan of hot sauce for years; before Formation was even a thought.

        I like hot sauce but when I go to the movies I carry salt in my bag; for the popcorn of course. Though hot sauce taste pretty good on popcorn as well.

      • doofus says:

        soy sauce on popcorn is pretty good, too.

      • Kitten says:

        Parmesan is also awesome on popcorn. I like cinnamon and sugar on it too.

      • ladysussex says:

        I’m with you Kitten. Parmesan is da bomb on popcorn. Especially with a little chili powder. Mmmm.

      • paleokifaru says:

        I’m a Tabasco gal for popcorn but I use Tapatio or Chilua for everything else. Oh man I’m probably pandering.

      • Who ARE these people? says:

        Curry powder on popcorn. MMMMM.

      • DarkSparkle says:

        Just recently found some truffle salt at a discount store, and I bring it to the movies and feel FANCY. It’s sooooo good. Really good on eggs too.

      • paleokifaru says:

        Darksparkle that sounds absolutely divine. Where did you find it?

      • Otaku Fairy says:

        She could mean that she keeps hot sauce in whatever purse somebody carries for her. Still wouldn’t call that a lie.
        By the way, hot sauce goes good with Goya’s red rice.

      • DarkSparkle says:

        paleo – I found it at TJ Maxx of all places!

    • Murphy says:

      Of course she doesn’t, one of Huma’s people carries her bag.

    • Eden75 says:

      You know that NO female politician carries her own bag, right? I live in a province with a female Premier, as well as a country that did have a female Prime Minister for a brief time, and you will never see them carrying their own bags. (My local MLA is female and I have known her for years and I have NEVER seen her with a bag, even at a social event.) The same with Angela Merkel, German Chancellor, Beata Szydło, Polish Prime Minister, etc. There is a reason for it. Women in politics are seem as less qualified and experienced the moment that they are too “feminine” Carrying a bag is a major no no. People perceive women as less able to do the job once clothes, hair, bags, shoes or make up is mentioned. It’s a sad sad fact of reality that they are not able to carry their own bags because they are then perceived as less than their male counterparts.

      Pick a million other reasons to not like someone but the fact that the women are not able to carry their bags because of the optics to the general public should not be one of them. I have seen so many people on this site complain about the questions asked to the ladies on the red carpet about their clothes and it is frustrating to see the bag comment here.

      As for the lying bit, here’s a link to a 2008 NY Times article about it where she mentions she has been eating spicy foods since at least 1992.


    • Dirty Marini says:

      Can’t stand Hillary and yes because I too think she’s a liar
      , liar, pants on fire hypocrite. But truthfully she has been extolling the virtues of hot sauce for a while. Too many things that truly matter to bust her chops on rather than this fodder.

      The political threads on here defy logic. Apparently all republicans are the same, lumped together, and demonized…….while the Bernie and Hillary supporters square off denouncing how different their respective candidates are and fighting each other over daring to suggest crossing party lines.

      Wish we could really shed the stereotypical knee jerk reactions to everyone on one side of the aisle on the simple basis of party …..and shed the “we all fit into one party or the other till death ” mindset.

      More Americans than not just don’t affiliate solely with one party, That’s why we swing to and fro with the presidential elections between republicans and democrats,

      Wish we looked at politics as individuals. And for the record, I have no idea who I’ll vote for because I hate HC, hate DT, and hell no I’m not voting for a socialist either,

  4. Nancy says:

    I’m still trying to wrap my head around the fact that Hillary Clinton was interviewed by Charlamagne! He doesn’t hold back, it had to be funny. This lady really wants to win….

  5. Rhiley says:

    Mark Halperin has seen the hot sauce and stated on Morning Joe this morning that this is a true story.

    • Santia says:

      I see how it sounds like pandering, but I understand she has an interview from 2011 and she was asked the same question and she said she carried hot sauce. Also, is Beyonce the only person who is allowed to carry hot sauce now? I know a lot of women who do (odd, I know, but true).

      • Luca76 says:

        I know right???!!!

      • Esmom says:

        Especially when you’re traveling as much as Hillary is, it makes sense that you’d carry favorite things to make your endless road meals and hotel stays feel less impersonal.

      • K says:

        Thank you! I’m not a big Hilary fan, I will vote for her but this isn’t new and not one ethnic group or pop singer has the market cornered for loving hot sauce.

        A lot of people love spicy food. And she has been talking about this for a long time. If you want to criticize her focus on her policy not when she started liking hot sauce or if she can use a metro card. I swear people/media can turn the election into such petty insignificant bull that nothing important gets discussed.

      • doofus says:

        my bro also carries hot sauce with him at all times. to add, I know people who have upwards of 20 different kinds in their cabinets. Like, an entire shelf dedicated to JUST hot sauce.

      • It's like you know says:

        I remember there was a “what’s in your bag” thread on Reddit last year, and a serious number of people carried condiments like hot sauce, ketchup, mustard, etc. Like, way more than I ever would have thought.

        Since I never carry food items, I found it fascinating (and practical!).

      • Mean Hannah says:

        I always associate carrying hot sauce in one’s purse with Naomi Campbell. It was late 80s or early 90s when she said it in an interview with and I was like: why didn’t I think of it? It’s common now, but back then, if you wanted hot sauce at a restaurant, you had to carry it.

  6. Luxe says:

    Hillary, stop. Stop. Every time I think she couldn’t possibly get cringier she proves me wrong.

    • ohdear says:

      I think she is one of those people who don’t do well in groups, which is a super disadvantage for someone that needs millions of people to like her. People say she is funny and likeable in person, but comes across as condescending and cold in public. I relate to that. I am a university professor and I have learned that I need to connect with as many students as I can in personal conversations to show my warm personality. You get me in front of a group and I turn robotic and very wordy. It’s a conscious effort on my part to connect with others in small groups. My husband and youngest daughter on the other hand can hold the attention of a room in their hand and exude confidence and warmth in all settings. I envy that, and I don’t know that the authenticity can be learned.

    • Naya says:

      You should watch the whole interview. She comes across very well actually. This extract taken out of its context is very misleading..

  7. Insomniac says:

    Hope she kicks ass in New York today.

    • Maya says:

      Me too – I have no dog in this fight but I really wish Hillary kicks some butts in NY today.

    • Rhiley says:

      Me three Insomniac!!! I get that she is like the Democrat’s Mitt Romney. She flip flops like a fish out of water, but she is the best shot we have to ensure a racist, misogynistic, homophobic pig does not end up in the Oval Office. Could Bernie Sanders beat Ted Cruz or Trump in the general election? Perhaps, but then what? This country hates Socialism and will fight it tooth and nail. We will have the same crazy Congress we have now and a president whose ideas not only cost a staggering amount of money but also require the support of Congress to pass. I truly believe that if Hillary Clinton is elected, this Congress will shift and no right winged wing nut can be elected to the Supreme Court.

      • macey says:

        actually polls show Sanders beats Trump by landslide but not Clinton, thats a toss up b/c I know most Sanders supporters won’t be voting for her, myself included.

        Im not sure how you can say this country hates socialism considering we already have tons of social programs like your schools, police, military, social security..etc.
        I think most ppl just don’t realize how many of those programs are actually considered ‘social programs’. Not to mention the ones who don’t know the difference btwn Socialism and Democratic Socialism..BIG Difference.

      • Grant says:

        Macey, I think that’s reprehensible. The fact that you would allow Republicans a chance at the White House, control of the legislature, and the opportunity to drastically shift the power on the Supreme Court, all because your boy doesn’t win just shows that you really don’t care about issues or the fate of this nation. Shame on you.

      • Kitten says:

        @Macey-That’s a shame and I have to agree with Grant here.
        Myself and my other friends who are Sanders supporters will all be voting for Hillary if Bernie doesn’t get the nom.

      • Rhiley says:

        @Macey- to clarify I realize that the country is built on many principles of Socialism and Socialism is evident every where in our country, not just Obama Care but also our wonderful National Parks System which is really a crowning jewel for our country. But the Republican House and Senate do not want those principles to spread in this country and will fight it and fight it and fight it. Also, you must be very privileged if you can opt to not vote Democrat this election.

      • Wren says:

        I think a lot of people forget what the president actually does, or at least is supposed to do. Whoever is elected will not control the legislature, if you’re worried about the Republicans controlling the legislature you need to make sure you vote for your preferred congress members. There’s a lot of seats up for election right now, and it’s my opinion we can do with a change there too.

        The president is the cheif executive officer, in charge of the military and ensuring laws are obeyed. It is not the president’s job to make the law. That’s what congress does (or is supposed to do, lately it seems like a pissing match and little else). They can veto laws, but they cannot make them. Worried about new laws impinging on your freedom? Make sure you vote for congress members. The president has influence, yes, but they do not make the law, no matter what they tell you during campaign time.

      • Merritt says:


        Polls only show that because Bernie was virtually unknown until last year. If he were the nominee, the GOP attack machine would change those polls.

      • mimif says:

        I’m a delegate for Bernie in Washington state, and I can tell you that in a packed house at the caucus in March, there was not a single person who shared macey’s views. If Hillary gets the nom, we will vote for Hillary. End of.

      • K says:

        @macy I liked Bernie not going to lie his recent behavior and the actions and sexist redoric of many of his supporters has put me squarely off him.

        That being said- he can’t answer a question of how he is going to break up the banks, he can’t get to how he is going to make any policy work without a massive resolution which isn’t going to happen. Another thing Bernie hasn’t been tested! No one has gone after him; no one has challenged him in a real way Clinton has played nice and Republicans don’t take him seriously.

      • Esmom says:

        mimif, the voice of reason, thank you. And nice to “see” you!

        I cannot for he life of me understanding why people are saying they won’t vote if their candidate doesn’t get the nom. To take an important, dare I say sacred, privilege and just toss it away like it’s nothing, it’s frightening to me.

      • It's like you know says:

        I will vote for whoever wins the Dem nomination. I just think Hillary has a much better chance of getting things done, particularly reaching across the aisle, than Bernie Sanders.

        Still. All Dems need to unite. The Repubs are an incredible disaster.

      • The Eternal Side-Eye says:


        Some have said that perhaps Bernie didn’t have the intention of making it this far and that his campaign was run more as a way to try and force the discussion on more social and societal changes. In some ways I see that because I do think his greatest strengths were in major topics and general ideas but as things get closer to crunch time and he’s asked for more specifics he does seem to struggle producing them or even with his accusation against Hilary he can’t really point to any specific action even though he’s been leveling the charge at her for months.

        I also agree one of the major problems I have with supporting him is that when it comes down to it I have to be realistic about this country. The term socialism doesn’t scare me and many of Bernie’s ideas are good, but the second the Republican machine starts turning airing ads about the SOCIALIST things are going to get a lot more hairy for Bernie. I’ve seen the comments from people who say they’ll never vote a socialist. Bernie’s been treated with kid gloves for the most part (Republicans are fighting themselves, Hilary’s fighting everybody) but when the commercials start up laughing about Bernie’s ‘socialist’ ideas those ratings will drop hard and fast.

      • K says:

        @eternal side eye

        I can totally see that being true, I also think there are valid issues he has brought up and forced a discussion on which is great but I also think people need to be practical and think about our country and sadly the ONLY candidate who is is Hilary.

        Also yeah no one has gone after him on being a socialist (which he isn’t a real one) no one has really attacked his he’ll raise taxes but trust me in the general they will and his numbers will plummet hard. I’m a big believer in social programs, I am proud to pay taxes and have zero issues with 40% but I won’t vote for someone who wants to raise above that especially when I see wasteful spending and I know the taxes won’t go to food stamps, head start and infurstructure like I believe it should it will go to building more tanks we don’t use.

      • Tiffany :) says:

        I agree, Eternal Side Eye. I will vote for either of them in the general, but I am supporting Hillary now because I think she can get things done. First, she is showing that she understands and values Congress’s role in the formation of our laws and policies. There can be no change without the actions of congress. Bernie seems to ignore how much he will need a congress that will work with him. Secondly, I wish he had more details about how he will get things done. Several of his policy ideas are already happening, and so it seems that he isn’t quite as up on the fine details, and those details really matter.

    • LB says:

      I don’t vote usually (I didn’t even realize I registered as a Democrat) but I will be today.

    • Luca76 says:

      As a NYer I really think she will.Sanders fans are incredibly loud but I don’t think the majority of them are even actually registered Democrats the majority of people I know (I’m in my late 30s I have a diverse group of friends in age, and racially) are voting Hillary.

    • Susan says:

      Hillary is a warrior. It’s OUR time and no one deserves it more to represent us then Hillary.

  8. spittair says:

    LOOOL, no she didn’t.

  9. Cola Cola says:

    She actually said this like a year ago! http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/12/21/hillary_clinton_jalape_o_and_hot_sauce_fiend.html

    I wish people weren’t so hard on her.

    • Merritt says:

      Because apparently people want to pretend Google is hard. The are several interviews going back over several years where she has said the same thing.

    • Santia says:

      I’m not a Hillary apologist (or even a fan), but I wish people would google, instead of just jumping on the “she lies!” bandwagon. It’s been known for years that she eats a lot of hot sauce.

  10. Maya says:

    I am getting sick and tired of people (Sanders supporters and republicans) to accuse Hillary of lying without backing up their claims.

    Sanders just released a statement accusing Hillary of breaking the campaign rules without any evidence. Has Bernie forgotten how he used campaign money to hire a private jet and fly 200 people to Rome for a personal issue?

    Bernie also claimed he had a private meeting with the Pope but Pope himself said how Bernie “ambushed” him 4 in the morning and that they only shock hands and nothing else. And if someone (Bernie) thinks that means he is endorsing Bernie then they are out of their minds.

    Hillary has released 8 years of tax return while Bernie has only released a few pages from last year.

    Hillary is accused of being in bank’s pockets because she earned money for her speeches which were given when she was a private individual and not a politician. Bernie hasn’t been able to provide a single instance as to when Hillary’s decisions have been to the gain of the banks.

    Bernie was sponsored by NRA and has voted against the Brady Bill 5 times – he is beholden to NRA and its quit obvious.

    As an outsider (live in UK) it’s really sad to see the double standard in this election.

    For the record – Hillary said in an interview back in 2012 about hot sauce, before Beyonce even wrote her song.


    • Luca76 says:

      And this is why I’m so happy to be voting for Hillary today. I cannot wait for this election to be over.

    • Cola Cola says:

      I am really convinced that it’s sexist thing. I think for a woman, you not only have to be perfect, you have to be better than perfect. Male politicians (who are not people of color) get a LOT more slack in terms of missteps. Heck, even David Vitter in Louisana was wrapped up in the DC Madam thing and STILL got reelected.

      • LB says:

        An added factor with Hillary is her husband was also in public office. Watching the debates I was appalled at how much she had to talk about and defend his decisions as if they were her own. Male politicians don’t often have to deal with that because their spouses rarely hold public office as well.

      • Maya says:

        Yes it is a sexiest thing and I cannot understand why women who are Bernie supporters cannot see it.

        Bernie also wrote those rape essays which were against women in every way.

    • Cynthia says:

      The Bernie in Rome thing was such a fiasco, but I’m glad people saw through this publicity stunt.

    • K says:

      Yeah the liar thing doesn’t really wash and truly it is a sexist thing with her. I am not a fan or an apologist but she is hardly this evil being that the media and critics make her out to be. And I’ve yet to see one instance where she has been proven to be this horrible liar. Is she the most honest person no but she isn’t what people claim either.

      Also when we have have racist, sexist, xenophobic people running guess who has gotten the most negative coverage- Hilary! How is that? Oh because she raises her voice and doesn’t smile. Yep that’s the same as calling all Mexicans rapists rme.

    • Kitten says:

      These threads get so bad, Maya.
      I really hate seeing Sanders and Clinton fans going at each other’s throats when I feel like we should all be uniting against the GOP.

      • Maya says:

        I know – I usually stay out of them but the double standard is just plain pathetic.

        I have read a lot of interviews and people comments and it is clear how immature Bernie’s supporters are.

        They think he is some kind of Saint even though he has continuously attacked Hillary and called her a liar without evidence. He even stooped so low that he uses the Pope as a campaign tool.

        Bernie supporters simply cannot see how if Bernie doesn’t win the nomination and Hillary does, they have to stand behind her in the general election.

        Hillary is nothing compared to the evil GOP, they will ruin America and Bernie supporters will regret not voting for Hillary. These supporters will then have ruined their lives and the next generations with their immature stand.

      • Kitten says:

        @Maya-I posted down-thread about my observations of the two different types of Sanders-supporters.
        Anyway, I agree with you and it’s really embarrassing to see the bad behavior because I don’t want to be associated with that. Sigh.

      • The Eternal Side-Eye says:

        Same, I’m tiptoeing through this thread but so far it all seems fairly reasonable.

      • THE OG BB says:

        Agreed. Most of my friends are Bernie supporters (all in their 30s and early 40s) and nothing like the people I see on Twitter. It’s so disheartening to see democratic infighting when we should be way more worried about Trump or Cruz!

      • Jess says:


        You seem to really love disparaging Bernie supporters in every single thread when he’s mentioned.

    • Wren says:

      They’re all liars. I don’t get why people always think their preferred candidate is above that. I don’t care who it is, they lie and have lied. Not about everything or all the time, of course, but they all do it. Just start there and then begin evaluating the merits of each candidate. It’s a cliche for a reason.

      • Magnoliarose says:

        This is my view too. I vote on issues and not the game of politics. You don’t get that far without mud on your hands.

    • The Eternal Side-Eye says:

      The pope thing was so weird to me and is why I wonder about those campaign staffers closes to him. The man is an atheist and hardly far enough in the campaign process to be meeting with a major religious figure.

      What was the point? I doubt many of Bernie’s supporters are staunchly religious. It just seems like they jerk him around trying to put him everywhere.

      • Giddy says:

        Yes.This is what I don’t understand. He was asked point blank in an interview if he believed in God and he said no. So to try to use the Pope for political gain seems especially hypocritical.

  11. Elizabeth says:

    I will vouch for Clinton’s love of hot food. My partner is an executive chef at a hotel, the Clinton’s stayed here recently and he did a private banquet for them and their staff. He was able to design their menu but there were requests – 3 sandwiches , 2 soups (1spicy) and different sauces for sides. She does like spicy food and Bill loves a bbq vegetarian sandwich. Everything went over so well that the hotel was calling J in the middle of the night because the party was requesting leftovers for the road. It’s now our family joke that Hillary likes J’s chicken soup.

    • Betsy says:

      What’d your husband put in the vegetarian bbq sandwich? I’m usually pretty disappointed by veg offerings, but that sounds intriguing.

  12. Dangles says:

    Team Bernie.

    Any of you read that story about the fundraiser George Clooney’s neighbor held for Bernie: http://www.truthdig.com/avbooth/item/99_party_sanders_supporters_shower_20160417

    • Maya says:

      Bernie supporters are as usual acting like children when they want to raise a point.

      According to Bernie and his supports, apparently people of colour, rich people and women are not that intelligent because they support Hillary.

      • Santia says:

        Not to mention that Bernie has been in the “system” himself for decades and has yet to effectuate a revolution. Me thinks Bernie is riding the wave of anger against Washington and the “establishment” in much the same way Trump is.

      • V4Real says:

        Like some have said up thread it is sexist. Clooney held a couple of fundraisers for Obama as well but none of this crap happened.

        I’m not a fan of Bernie but I know Mark Ruffalo is a huge fan. It seems like everyday he is tweeting about Bernie. I had to stop following him because he was getting on my nerves with his love of Bernie and disgust for Hillary.

      • Jess says:


        Your ridiculous comments are what’s childish here. Did you really just say that Bernie supporters think POC, women and rich people are dumb? Seriously? And you have the nerve to say Bernie supporters are the ones being childish.

        Tell me again Maya, which side had their biggest supporter come out and declare” a special place in hell” for women who don’t support Hillary? Where’s the famous bernie supporter telling women that they’re only with Hillary cause “that’s where the boys are”?

    • Tiffany :) says:

      George explained the reason behind the fundraiser. The money wasn’t just going to Clinton’s campaign, it was also going to fund democrats in CONGRESSIONAL races…something Bernie has not been supporting. If the president is a Democrat, in order to enact any kind of positive change, they will need the support and votes of Congress.

      I know Bernie is fighting for his campaign’s life right now, but some of these tactics, like throwing one dollar bills at people, really miss the point. I wish they had thrown those $1 bills at Congressional races instead of tossing it on the ground.

    • Magnoliarose says:

      Me too Dangles. I’ve done my volunteer part for his campaign and we will see.

  13. Lambda says:

    Just an apolitical shout here to spice and hot sauce.
    The only food item in my purse will be mints, but I eat a good dozen of Thai chili every day. They’re good and good for you.

  14. Gg says:

    Hot sauce is the new IT accessory. I wish I was kidding.

  15. Tallia says:

    Angela Yee totally saw through that comment. I am disappointed in Charlemagne for not calling her (Hillary) out.

    • mimif says:

      Yeah, I don’t care if she drinks habañero smoothies for breakfast with a ghost pepper chaser. “Is it working?” She must have been on CP time that day too. /s

    • V4Real says:

      But why would he call her out? Hilary has talked about her love of hot sauce years before Beyoncé released Formation. For all we know Bey could have gotten that idea from Hillary.

  16. mp says:

    I have some ppl on my fb feed who act like Bernie is a saint, and Hilary is the devil and I feel sad that there is no subtlety to these arguments. 🙁 Also, what’s your favorite hot sauce? I like cholula and Crystal.

    • Kitten says:

      From observing my social media pages, I’ve noticed that there are two kinds of Sanders supporters: the ones like myself and my close friends, who are quietly voting for Sanders, no spamming with divisive memes, no outrageous attacks on Hillary, no angry rants about “politics as usual”, people who follow politics closely and are ready for a true liberal (or at least what we hope to be a true liberal) in the White House.

      And then the other type of Sanders supporters: people who have never shown any interest in politics until now, who spend more energy attacking Hillary than they do the GOP, who don’t seem to have any great political insight, they just want anti-establishment and Bernie fits their criteria.
      It’s odd how it seems so divided in that way.

      • Luca76 says:

        Yeah the latter really ruin it for the former. I’m fairly familiar with Sanders and I actually admire him eventhough I’m voting Hillary. But there are more than one people on my Facebook that I’ve lost a ton of respect for with their sexist attacks on Hillary and paternalisticly racist comments about any Hillary voters of color.

      • Betsy says:

        According to an op-ed in Medium, Bernie’s Revolution Messaging has literal paid trolls on staff. If true, no wonder things get ugly. I’ve been called a paid shill, a Hillarybot, been told I’m voting with my vagina (not here, different site)… It’s nuts.

      • The Eternal Side-Eye says:

        I’ve heard it said that we’re seeing a resurgence of the liberal version of the tea party in some of Bernie’s supporters. Very passionate but low information, prone to paranoia (everyone’s out to get Bernie even if something can be explained logically), grandiose fantasies and of course #BernieorBust.

        I’ve seen way too many people online casually say how they’ll vote Trump or welcome a revolution that wipes the slate clean for me to doubt it anymore. There’s something to be questioned about the comfort and luxury (and yes I do think we’re looking at a specific perhaps well intentioned but very safe liberal) who thinks we’re just one Bernie away from Mecca.

        This isn’t all his supporters but it’s a vocal minority who’s hurting his public image. Tbh, I’m even starting to see it from his campaign staff and representatives who do interviews. They’ll misrepresent something said to launch an attack on Hilary (Claiming she said he wasn’t qualified, saying she’s too ambitious, the pope silliness) and Bernie ends up with the smear.

      • independent voter says:


        some of us bernie supporters are not young, are not party-affiliated, and have voted in 100% of elections ever contested in our area. we are not naive. how can you ask an independent to vote for hillary clinton when they disagree with her principles? you people demanding unity and party loyalty are the ones who put off bernie supporters. i am not a democrat, and the only democrats i will support are bernie as the nominee and down-ticket dems, only if he is the nominee.

      • Who ARE these people? says:

        Kitten, I’m in your group. But then so is my elderly aunt who says, “Sanders is the only one who is telling the truth.” American campaigns are always too long, too expensive, too ridiculous, too loud. This year seems like some kind of pivot point. The Republicans have zero establishment candidates (you wanna racist bully or a religious bully?) and the Democrats have a totally establishment candidate whose best fit with the times was probably 12-16 years ago and an Independent whose ideas were well accepted by liberal Democrats of bygone eras but for some reason are covered as “impractical ideals” today (strong unions, free public college, health care, aid to veterans … these totally pragmatic innovations built the formerly robust American middle class; they are not radical ideas). So we have outsiders running on the inside in order to avoid the 3rd-party split, and they’re splitting the major parties instead. That said, these splits have been coming a long time. The fault lines were there. We have more independent voters up for grabs than ever before. And I wish someone would talk about this more.

      • Kitten says:

        @independent voter-“you people demanding unity and party loyalty are the ones who put off bernie supporters”

        Did you even read my comment at all?
        Did you miss the part where I said I myself am a BERNIE SUPPORTER? I am also an Independent. I voted for Sanders in the Mass primary, but don’t let that stop your knee-jerk reaction and outrage because you’re proving my point for me. It’s ok to stay angry but please don’t speak for myself and others who support Bernie but remain fair and level-headed (see ESE’s second paragraph for details).

        @WATP-You’re spot-on about these splits being a long time coming. It’s frustrating for me to watch. I want Sanders to win so badly, but I see a certain faction of his supporters who aren’t representing his followers in a positive light at all. Sigh.

      • Who ARE these people? says:

        Kitten I know.

        Anytime anyone opens a comment, verbal or written, with “you people…” it’s time to step back.

        There’s so much frustration all around and any political candidate will have followers range along the spectrum of passion and intensity. Sanders and Clinton both have followers who might in other places seem overly aggressive and unfair.

        Clinton will win NY and it’s just a matter of how many delegates Sanders can take away. The older I get, the more I remember how smart and committed young people can be, and they have more burdens to carry than I do. I do worry about where they will go if he’s not nominated, but it’s not a reason not to support him. You can’t quit before you even try. It troubles me to hear both Clintons patronize younger votes. They were happy to take them in their own political salad days.

      • Kitten says:

        @WATP-ITA with everything you said. Sanders barely lost in Mass a couple months ago but it foreshadows a win for Hillary next year, which isn’t very heartening.

        I actually saw a pick-up truck on Saturday that had “Trump 16” written on the covering on the back of the truck. On the other side it said “This b*tch”. I have no idea what it meant, but it was scary to see that in Massachusetts. Then again, Trump won the Repub primary here so…sigh 🙁

    • Tiffany :) says:

      Cholula is the best!

      • independent voter says:

        @kitten -read them all. your snide derision and your assumptions are the issue. because i intend to vote my values, i am not level-headed? brilliant logic…

      • Kitten says:

        @independent voter-Um yeah dude–you’re taking my comment WAY too personally. It was a general observation and you make it sound like it was a personal attack.
        Again, have fun wasting your time arguing with Hillary supporters AND Bernie supporters who don’t think exactly like you while I save my anger for the people who deserve it *side-eyes GOP*.

      • THE OG BB says:

        I love Cholula, Tiffany :), and I do truly carry it around in my bag #swag. I’m not down with the sriracha people, I don’t get the love for it.

      • Dangles says:

        Clinton might as well be in the GOP.

  17. chioma says:

    I’m not American but if I were, I would totally vote Hillary JUST BECAUSE SHE’S A WOMAN.
    In a country where some people will vote Trump cos he says it like it is and Bernie cos he’s not Trump and not a woman or Ted Cruz because he’s not Trump and he’s republican, Hillary is the safest.
    I don’t believe she’s this big fat liar people make her out to be and I want to see Bill be the first gentleman too and stand around in the background while she does her thang. Voting her cos she’s a woman is not a bad idea. At all

    • Huh? says:

      So you don’t have a problem with like voting for like even though the candidate should be nowhere near a political office? A lot of black people voted for Obama only because he is black and we will defend until the day we die although many of us know nothing about him beyond the surface.

      Blacks voting for black, whites for white, women for women. When do we get to the issues and start to solve our mountains of problems?

      • The Eternal Side-Eye says:

        Realistically though we have a record of 99% white men running and winning. Voter apathy stems partly from people who feel like it doesn’t really matter if they vote because nothing changes. I’m not surprised that people when given the choice are going to vote for options that seem drastically different than what we’ve had in the past.

        Saying some blacks only voted for Obama because he’s black missed the target. Some blacks voted for I and because they felt s black man would be more empathetic to black issues and understand their needs on a personal level in a way a white person could not.

      • ohdear says:

        I’m going to give most people who say this the benefit of doubt. They would vote Hillary because she is a viable candidate for them, as well as a woman – so out of the candidates they would consider, supporting a woman weighs in for them. If it were Michelle Bachman, the sentiment would (hopefully!) not be the same.

        And I think there is some validity to that perspective, assuming the candidate is viable (ie. not Sarah Palin-esque). Voting for a woman (substitute child of immigrant parents, a person of colour, etc) because she is a woman benefits the conversation and law making, perspectives and experiences that under-represented go through that others not of that demographic cannot anticipate or relate to. I think it is important to ensure there is diverse representation, with qualified people in place, of course.

    • Bobo says:

      I am not American and I would vote for Bernie because HE’S NOT BEING INVESTIGATED BY THE FBI. As an Asian woman, a man that will be honest with me is much more appealing than a woman that will lie to me.

      • The Eternal Side-Eye says:

        And has anything come of the investigation?



      • Farrah says:

        “And has anything come of the investigation?”

        Nothing is going to come of an ongoing investigation, because it’s, ya know, ongoing.

      • Kitten says:

        Right. As if the FBI isn’t rife with corruption of its own…

        This email “scandal” is just another Benghazi, just another distraction, just another opportunity for conspiracy theorists to let their imaginations run wild.

      • Who ARE these people? says:

        The FBI almost certainly has a thick file on Bernie Sanders too, just because that’s what they’ve long done to anyone protesting anything. If he got involved with the Civil Rights movement young = file. Throw in the self-proclaimed Democratic Socialism = file. But no particular lines of investigation as far as has been made public, I guess. They just make files.

      • Santia says:

        Hillary has testified countless times; the FBI has reviewed thousands of documents. If there was something there – anything – they’d have flung it at her already. They have nothing.

      • The Eternal Side-Eye says:

        Yup and it will be ongoing till the FBI has searched through enough that they’re tired of devoting their time to it. Multiple inquiries, multiple hearings, multiple times before a panel to investigate this issue and they’ve produced all of nothing.

        I’m chalking this up to the same drama that was the uproar and discovery of Obama’s ‘secret’ birth certificate. The rest of us can’t wait forever for conspiracies to finally be made truth. If they do eventually find anything then fine, it needs to be addressed, but at this point I’m going to go by the words of one of the Republicans on the task force who admitted it was simply a way to hurt Hilary’s chances at the presidency.

      • Farrah says:

        “This email “scandal” is just another Benghazi, just another distraction, just another opportunity for conspiracy theorists to let their imaginations run wild.”

        I’m not sure the FBI would go through the trouble of conducting an intensive, months-long investigation just for the sake of placating some conspiracy theorists, but it’s totally cool if you think so.

        It’s anyone’s guess what the result of the FBI’s investigation will be (they’re not tipping their pitch at all), but this much is certain: they’re taking this shit very seriously.

      • Farrah says:

        “Multiple inquiries, multiple hearings, multiple times before a panel to investigate this issue and they’ve produced all of nothing.”

        You have no earthly idea what they have or haven’t produced.

      • Kitten says:

        @Farrah-Reading comprehension is fun.

        I said nothing about the FBI fabricating the investigation to “placate conspiracy theorists”.
        I thought it was obvious that my point was about the media’s unrelenting coverage of a non-story that has had ZERO new developments thus far. And yeah, it gets covered ad nauseam because it’s click-bait for people with active imaginations who like to create stories without any real substantive proof.

        “You have no earthly idea what they have or haven’t produced.”

        …and you do, Farrah?

      • The Eternal Side-Eye says:


        Nor do I care to speculate and guess and wonder for another couple of months to years until conclusive evidence and a report is produced. If there’s anything to be had then it should be dealt with, but so far all we have is a party that refused to provide extra security to officials overseas, saw a way to blame it on someone else, and is now riding the non-issue till the horse dropped dead.

        Now in bits and pieces they’ve admitted clinging to the issue long after they couldn’t produce the smoking gun has hurt their party and that they were mostly trying to hurt Hilary’s presidential chances. Shockingly logical.

      • Farrah says:

        “…and you do, Farrah?”

        Nobody does, honey, it’s an ongoing FBI investigation. Got it?

      • Farrah says:

        “…so far all we have is a party that refused to provide extra security to officials overseas, saw a way to blame it on someone else, and is now riding the non-issue till the horse dropped dead.”

        I get that you’re a partisan type of gal, but this is just plain nutty.

      • Jess says:


        Totally agree.
        & If the roles were reversed and Bernie was the one being investigated by the FBI, you just know they would criticize the sh-t out of Bernie and call him “unelectable” and smear him to no end.

      • The Eternal Side-Eye says:


        Agree to disagree, while we wait for the umpteenth investigation to produce something the world keeps turning. The smart move would have been not to engage in hearing after hearing until they had their a-ha piece of evidence, as a result the significance has faded.


        Campaign smearing is as old as time. I’m not particularly impressed by whoever does it since its a tool to manipulate the simple.

    • Who ARE these people? says:

      Would you have voted for Sarah Palin because she was a woman?

  18. Eden75 says:

    Wow. I thought our political crap was bad for the few weeks every 4 years we had to deal with it, but the States takes the cake.

    Hillary has been talking about her hot sauce forever. I don’t even live in the States and I knew that. Actually, it’s safe to say that I wouldn’t have thought twice about the comments as I had no idea about the Beyonce song. It amazes me that this is considered pandering. I guess up here anyone who likes to eat bannock should be considered to be pandering too as only the First Nations are allowed to eat it? Of all the issues to pick out, hot sauce makes the news? Really?

    • Luca76 says:

      I’m not sure what bannock is but I have to say as a black person it’s incredibly disturbing that somehow hot sauce has been assigned as a uniquely black food because of a Beyoncé song.

      • Eden75 says:

        Bannock is a First Nations bread. It’s freaking awesome, I highly recommend it 🙂

        It is disturbing. It speaks to the power of celebrity I suppose.

      • The Original Mia says:

        Thank you! As if other cultures don’t enjoy and like spicy foods. Sriracha is just some stuff they have at the sushi joint. Habanero is just a pepper that no one in Hispanic/Latino countries use. They just sell it to the US for exclusive use in hot sauce/pepper sauce.

      • Lama Bean says:

        +1 Luca!

      • Luca76 says:

        Thanks Eden I’ll have to find some 😄

  19. Susan says:

    The Hillary pepper story is a true thing. We read about her regime of peppers and hot sauce way back in 2009, Google it. Since then it’s five Greek pepperincinos a day for me. It does jump start your day.

    • The Eternal Side-Eye says:

      How does that feel/work? I’ve heard the benefits of hot/spicy food in the past and have dabbled but it sounds like you’ve got a good routine on.

      • Magnoliarose says:

        Cayenne helps liver function, circulation and boosts immunity. I use it instead of black pepper sometimes. It actually works. Some claim anti fungal and that it helps with digestion.

      • The Eternal Side-Eye says:

        Thanks Magnolia!

        I’m going to try adding it instead of black pepper a few times like you. This sounds really interesting.

      • Magnoliarose says:

        🙂 Give it a try. I like it and if you ever sauté greens like Chard, spinach or something I use red pepper flakes in the oil first and then put the greens. It’s yummy.

  20. The Eternal Side-Eye says:

    Just happy to see this comment section not totally devolve into chaos and ugliness.

    I think a lot of the accusations against Hilary stem from going back in time and looking with a corrective eye. While that’s good and allows us to examine injustices in an effort not to repeat them it can also make it seem like the world would have been just perfect if people didn’t do certain things.

    The problem with the ‘super predator’ comment is it wasn’t an invention of Hilary’s. It actually came from a study that was done about black youths and crime. This was the 90’s, drugs were hitting black neighborhoods hard, guns and gangs were in prominence and it was literally a battle to keep your neighborhood from succumbing to violence. Worst of all the police were of no help, the problem wasn’t effecting white neighborhoods much so they felt no need to intervene. So someone theorized how the problem in minority communities would continue to expand until we had ‘super-predators’. Kids trained in violence, lacking education and seeing the only way to survive by joining gangs and the police were doing barely anything to stop it. Black community leaders actually approached the Clintons begging for assistance and that was one of the ways it began.

    Yes it spiraled, but it also helped clean up a lot of neighborhoods and allowed them to function so that good kids could actually go to school without being shot and make something of themselves. Unfortunately we all clearly know now that many police districts and groups have tendencies toward racism and discrimination and the law quickly became a way to harass and mistreat AA’s. Sad but true but also a reality that needs to be addressed on a national level by police groups. The war on drugs didn’t make them racist and plenty of them continued their practices long after drug use was no longer a factor.

    Same with stop and frisk or even profiling. Police officers are walking into situations thinking their criminal looks a certain way and those are the majority they’re going after. That needs to stop but it doesn’t do any good to try and rewrite history and make super predators refer to all black people of the time period, nor to pretend a lot of those arrested were not truly destroying their neighborhoods. The crime is in those that could have been rehabilitated and given a chance that were not, but overall we have a long way to go to fix our unbalanced Justice System.

    • Sam says:

      That’s an excellent point. A lot of people have been railing against the Clintons for their tough-on-minorities crime laws, when they forget that most of those laws, when they passed, were actually backed by many black civil rights groups and organizations. The crime levels had basically gotten so bad, spurned on by gang violence, that the communities basically broke down and asked measures like those. A lot of the BLM protestors I see going after Clinton are YOUNG – too young to remember the stuff that actually led to those laws in the first place and why their parents’ generation backed that stuff in the first place. Of course, now we know that those laws didn’t work so well and they had a lot of unintended consequences, and Hillary has owned up to a lot of that. It’s the old Hindsight is 20/20 thing.

      • The Eternal Side-Eye says:


        The young BLM are well intentioned but it’s true. They’re looking at this issue in hindsight when at the time crime and gang violence was such a part of daily life it was shocking. The world was a lot more conservative and the focus of minority groups wasnt a part of the national conversation. For the Clintons with the help of minority leaders to try and address the problem was huge and one reason they have and continue to have such sway with black communities.

        They’re not perfect, but the demonization of them always feels particularly offensive to me, don’t suddenly pretend that the world was just perfect and it was the Clinton’s directing police to abuse the law.

      • Magnoliarose says:

        It’s such a difficult subject. I do get annoyed with other Bernie supporters when they forget the political climate during those times. I also don’t hold her accountable for her husband’s politics.
        Mass incarceration is a painful subject I think for so many people and they want to blame someone when there is so much blame to go around.
        This election is exhausting and November can’t arrive soon enough.

      • The Eternal Side-Eye says:


        Agreed on ALL counts. This whole process is just too much, I hope this doesn’t become the new trend in political campaigning.

  21. Saks says:

    OT but I’ve never taste a really hot sauce (which is not Mexican) in the US. Even in places when they’ve told me “oh this one is really hot” it is simply like a normal salsa roja.

    I wonder what is Hillary favourite hot sauce, and if she likes Mexican food (real Mexican food not Chipotle or those)?

    • Kitten says:

      The difference between American Mexican (Tex Mex?) and real Mexican food is like the difference between American Chinese and authentic Chinese food for me.

      My cousins in Cali are half-Mexican and they made me a traditional Mexican feast for my birthday when I was out there 5 years ago or so. It was AMAZING. Prior to that experience, I always thought I disliked Mexican food.

      • KB says:

        Tex-Mex outside of Texas is terrible. I’ve tried it in several different states and it’s just God awful. It gets a bad name because of that. Go to Houston or San Antonio, that’s where it’s at.

      • Betsy says:

        There’s a Yucatan style restaurant near-ish me; I can’t vouch for authenticity, but it is SO good. The sauces for the enchiladas? Eyes-rolling-back-in-your-head good.

      • Kitten says:

        @KB-Yeah I’ve been told that my view of Tex Mex is garbage by many Texans lol–that’s why I was hesitant to throw it under the bus. We only have a couple places around here that have authentic Mexican and it’s funny to read online reviews: basically locals love them but anyone who grew up near the border thinks they’re crap. In other words, most New Englander don’t know sh*t about real Mexican food OR Tex Mex 😉

        @Betsy-…and now I want enchiladas..

      • Tiffany :) says:

        I have an amazing hole-in-the-wall Mexican place in LA that I go to. The restaurant owner is so sweet and kind. His sister cooks the food and he runs the front. His nephews work there on weekends. The food is soooooo good! You can really taste the care they put into the food. He always tells me “have a beautiful day”, when I leave. I love them like family and they give me free tamales around the holidays.

  22. me says:

    I’m not really a fan of Hilary, but she is not lying about the hot sauce. On the news last night they showed old pics from years ago of her with her hot sauce. Liking spicy food has nothing to do with the color of one’s skin. I don’t think she’s being fake about this ONE thing.

    • Who ARE these people? says:

      My only question is do people carry around little glass bottles or little plastic bottles? Isn’t glass heavy and can’t it break? What if the lid opens? What do you do with red sauce all over your bag? OMG it’s bad enough when chocolate melts.

      • Eden75 says:

        Mine is a small glass one with a screw lid that I always end up putting on too tight and need help getting off. I also put it in a ziplock baggy to prevent leaks.

      • Who ARE these people? says:

        Wow. That’s commitment.

      • Eden75 says:

        LOL, yep. That and I am not supposed to have soy. There are lots of brands with it so I just pack my own. Also, 90% of the restaurants up here have Tabasco, which is fine, but I prefer my Death Sauce which I have yet to see in a restaurant as it is too hot for a lot of people.

      • Kitten says:

        Yeah that would end up all over my bag. I have a history of spilling condiments and beverages on very nice handbags.

        @Eden-Are you allergic to soy? I’m surprised at how much stuff soy is in..my mom has a soy allergy and it’s been a real eye-opener for me.

      • THE OG BB says:

        Eden, I do the same thing. A small bottle of hot sauce in a ziplock bag inside my purse.

    • Eden75 says:

      @Kitten – Not allergic but as I have a huge hormonal imbalance, soy is off the list as it is a phytoestrogen. It is a huge eye opener all right. The amount of stuff that it is in as a cheap filler is insane. I can eat something if it is on the bottom of the list of ingredients or says “may contain” but even then I try to avoid it just to be on the safe side.

      I have yet to have a sauce accident but when I do, you know it will happen with the most expensive bag I own.

      @OG BB – Works well. People use to look at me weird but from what I am gathering from today, I am just a Beyonce follower now, haha!

  23. JenB says:

    I’m not a Hillary fan, I prefer Bernie. But if Hillary wins the nomination and is going up against Trump or Cruz she’s got my vote on lock. I don’t understand the Bernie supporters that hate Hillary so hard they wouldn’t vote for her over Cruz or Trump. If someone could explain that perspective without rant I would appreciate it because I can’t see how Trump or Cruz is better than Hillary. I personally think Cruz is a special kind of awful. When dang near everyone you’ve ever worked with throughout your entire life hates you…that’s saying something people. All politicians have haters but they usually have strong support from some colleagues too. They all hate Cruz. Cruz has proved himself to be the “nightmare of human being” his college roommate called him out as. Also, his stance on abortion is crazy.

  24. Magnoliarose says:

    I am a Bernie supporter and was an Obama supporter. I wish the first woman to sit in the Oval Office would be Elizabeth Warren. I will vote for HRC but I won’t work for her campaign or donate. I’ll save that for the down ticket races.

    • Magnoliarose says:

      Hot sauce:Louisiana hot sauce. Crystal hot sauce. Siracha and Cholula. I don’t blame her for carrying it.

    • Jess says:

      100 percent agree. I wish Elizabeth Warren was the front runner instead of war-hawk Hillary.

    • lucy2 says:

      I would love to see Warren run. But until then, I’m glad we have her in the Senate, she seems to be one of the few acting on common sense.
      I’m not thrilled with any of the candidates this election, but I will gladly vote for Clinton or Sanders against Trump or Cruz.

  25. Dangles says:

    “Bernie supporters should be directing their anger at Republicans”

    We are. That’s why we’re directing our anger at Wall Street Hillary.

  26. Mary says:

    I carry salt and pepper and splenda with me. some people will jump on anything wont they.