Game of Thrones 6.9: ‘Battle of the Bastards’ & the dogs of war

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SPOILERS for last night’s episode of Game of Thrones 6.9, “Battle of the Bastards.”

“Battle of the Bastards” was supposed to be the most Jon Snow-intensive and action-heavy episode since “Hardhome” in Season 5. Did they deliver? I think Kit Harington does really well in action-oriented episodes, and people who say Kit is a one-note actor should start biting their tongues. Even though some around Jon Snow believe he is The Prince That Was Promised, Jon is still the same old Jon, uncomfortable with politics, riddled with insecurities and very, very sensitive. I think Kit did some of his best work in “BOTB” last night. Here are some highlights:

Dracarys. We got to see the conclusion of the action in Meereen, with Dany’s first instinct being “burn everything and everyone.” Tyrion convinced her (in a great scene) to meet face-to-face with the Masters. They were all like “surrender, bitch.” And she was all “nah.” Then she got on Drogon and as they flew by the pyramid (the catacombs of which Rhaegal & Viserion have been jailed) and Rhaegal and Viserion burned their way out and went to fly with their mom and their bro. “Dracarys,” Dany told her dragons. And they set fire to many of the masters and the masters’ ships. It was so amazing to see the three big dragons flying together!!! Oh, and Grey Worm got to kill two of the masters and Tyrion got to be Tyrion. At least he’s finally got something to do!

Dany & Yara like each other. In a later scene, Yara and Theon Greyjoy finally arrive at Meereen and after Tyrion bitches out Theon for being an arrogant little sh-t in the past, Yara and Theon lay all of their cards on the table. They’ll give their 100-ship fleet to Dany and in return they ask for her help in putting Yara on the Salt Throne of the Iron Islands. Yara and Dany seem to like each other immediately, and it really felt like they had sexual chemistry too. Anyway, the deal was struck! Dany isn’t going to wait to see what Euron Greyjoy has to say.

Ramsay & Jon’s First Meeting. The day before the battle, Jon, Ramsay and their main advisors meet in the middle of the battlefield. Jon offers to cancel the battle and they can just settle things one-on-one. Ramsay doesn’t like that idea, mostly because he’s more interested in menacing Sansa. Oh, and Ramsay provides proof of life on Rickon with Shaggydog the Direwolf. GAH! After the meeting, Sansa tries to tell Jon that he’s underestimating Ramsay, that he needs to be better prepared. She also basically tells Jon that she won’t let Ramsay take her alive.

Poor Rickon. To be fair, the kid needed to learn to zigzag. But Rickon was always going to die, wasn’t he? It sucks. It really sucks. And of course Ramsay was just toying with Jon and with Rickon. Rickon was always going to die by Ramsay’s hand. Plus, killing Rickon made Jon make a tactical error, an error of emotion.

The All-Is-Lost Moment.
It was clear even from the beginning of the battle that Jon’s forces were outnumbered. But then they got outmaneuvered and out-flanked. Jon did so well in the battle scenes and you can really tell that he’s the kind of man other men want to follow into battle. It kept getting worse and worse and I thought Tormund was going to die. And then, of course, Littlefinger arrived with the Knights of the Vale. I never thought I would be so happy to see Littlefinger! The Vale forces overpowered Ramsay’s forces quickly and Ramsay, like a f—king coward, turned tail and ran back to Winterfell.

Wun-Wun gave it all for Jon Snow. How crazy is that? Wun-Wun helped Jon so much, and Wun-Wun broke down Winterfell front gate as his last act. Wun-Wun had so many arrows in his body, and Ramsay took the killshot as soon as Wun-Wun and Jon were inside Winterfell.

Jon vs. Ramsay. Another badass scene for Jon, right? The way he grabbed the shield and kept charging towards Ramsay, the swift way he took Ramsay down, and then Jon lost it. Jon kept punching and punching Ramsay’s stupid face until Jon saw Sansa standing over them. The look he gave her was almost like, “Do you want to finish him off?” And she did.

The Dogs of War. The wolf sigil flies again at Winterfell. Jon’s forces are weak and severely limited, but they have taken back Winterfell. Sansa wants one last thing: to know where Jon is keeping Ramsay. Sansa watches from the other side as Ramsay, bound to a chair, bloody and beaten, still tries to menace. There are growls, and for a second, I thought Sansa was going to let Ghost eat Ramsay and I was like YAAASSS. But no, Sansa has put Ramsay in a cell with his own starving dogs. The dogs do their work and the episode ends as Sansa smiles, walking away as she hears Ramsay’s screams.

So, in the end, the core group survived the Battle of the Bastards. Jon, Tormund, Davos, Melisandre, Sansa, Littlefinger and Ghost all survived. I’m sad about Wun-Wun but I’m beyond pleased about Ramsay. I think most of us figured that Rickon wouldn’t survive this season and we were right. It’s a gut-punch, but we were prepared for it. And much like Arya and her kill list, I kept repeating “Jon, Sansa, Bran, Arya” to myself last night, just as a reminder that four Stark kids remain. Also: I didn’t get into it, but Episode 10 is going to get into it – Davos finally confronts Melisandre about what she did to Princess Shireen. The little stag figurine!!! GAH.

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  1. Jean Grey says:

    This episode was. Wow. Standing ovation! Both Kit Harrington and Sophie Turner did some of the best acting they’ve ever done the entire series! I rewatched it like 3 times. There was way too much anxiety the first time to really absord everything. Poor Rikon. And Wun Wun you were the real MVP last night. I’ll gather more of my thoughts later. Gotta get ready for work!

    • TG says:

      Yeah that was a phenom episode, one of the best. I had already read all the spoilers so knew to a T how it was going to play out, but I still watched it twice and was blown away. Finale is going to be so insane….I wonder if next week will be Cersei’s last huzzah, she’s just about played all her cards, minus one very fiery ace in the hole.

      • Whatwhatnot says:

        She has to watch Tommen die first, as per the prophecy she got from Maggie the Frog. I wonder if the Wildfire rumors are true and her scheme will backfire and that she’ll be responsible for Tommen’s death? We also get more Bran and hopefully we will FINALLY get the Tower of Joy reveal as well as maybe Jon finding out more info perhaps as he buried Rikon in the Winterfell Crypts….

      • TG says:

        ******ETA: SPOILERY COMMENT*****
        Yeah I think she’s going to accidentally kill Tommen, or maybe even go mad and kill Tommen herself per the prophecy…holy sh-t what if Tommen is the valonqar!!! Like they die together. Hm…ps Tower of Joy reveal confirmed for next ep.

    • sherry says:

      It was the most satisfying episode to date for me. I savored every minute of Ramsey getting served his justice and the Stark banners hanging at Winterfell again was a beautiful sight.

      • Whatwhatnot says:

        It was beautiful, wasn’t it? Even the sad parts had beauty. The scene where Rickon’s dead body is being hit by arrows, Davos finding the stag he gave Shireen, Drogo’s bro’s joining him, Grey Worm slashing the Master’s throats with such finesse. Daario leading the Dothraki charge. The tribute to Lord of The Rings, riders of Rohan aka the Vale coming from behind to save the day. Jon being trampled and suffocated and our guys literally trying to claw their way out of doom. Dany saying “Dracarys” and commanding her Dragons to light it up. I was very impressed with so much of everything that went on last night.

      • TG says:

        Sansa’s itty bitty smirk of a smile as she walked away in the final scene closed was so perfect.

    • M.A.F. says:

      Even on the second watch, I was still on edge. So good was this episode.

      • TG says:

        I know! I caught so much more watching the 2nd time. That battle scene was amazing, definitely Emmy worthy. Didn’t it take something like 6 weeks to film?

    • mary s says:

      I’m so proud of Sophie and Kit! I feared up because, not only was it an epic episode, but they nailed it, completely flawless. Honestly, I’ve got so much invested in their characters, and to see them now as compared to when they were younger, it’s amazing. It’s like the audience was trolled, and trolled hard. Both John and Sansa were such weakly portrayed characters in the first vouple of seasons. And remember everyone couldn’t stand Sansa? Last night was epic for both of them. And thank you, Kaiser, for the recap. I couldn’t watch after Ramsey made Rickon run, and Jon was never going to save him– way too emotional and frightening for me. Plus I was worried about Tormund! I fast forwarded to the part when the Vale comes riding in (was that the little wimpy boy from the castle at the front?). Of course, the Mereen scenes were awesome, last week that whole group was all bleh. My favorite scene was Worm with his awesome knife skills. Anyway, epic sh;t has gone down. Well done, GoT, well done.

      Edit: RIP Wun Wun. You did good, you made a difference, you’ll be remembered. 😔

    • Rachel says:

      Hats off to those of you who watched it multiple times. I usually watch each episode two or three times. But there have been some exceptions lately. Hold the Door and last night. I’m sure I should watch it again because like you, the anxiety was overwhelming. I was all over the place. When Jon broke and did exactly what Ramsey wanted him to do (after Sansa TOLD him not to), I ended up with my eyes clothes until the first charge was over. Watching the horses die was too much for me. My husband yelled at me to stop kicking him.

      I’m surprised no one has mentioned yet how often they focused on Jon narrowly escaping death. The director made quite a show on how many times he escaped a volley of arrows while everyone around him was cut down. Or how he narrowly missed a sword to the back when someone else charges in to take down the bearer. After Melissandre made her speech about the Lord of Light resurrecting Jon for a reason, I think they were showing that indeed, the Lord of Light is protecting him because he will serve a larger purpose.

      I know this will not be a popular opinion, but I have been very angry with Sansa for several episodes, and last night it exploded into full blown RAGE. If she had just TOLD Jon Littlefinger had 6000 troops available – that she had written to him and he would join their forces. But no. She keeps her mouth shut and Jon sacrifices his wildlings who have done so much for him. The last giant dies. DIES. And why didn’t he have a weapon? All he had to do was pull up a tree, and he could’ve knocked down Ramsey’s troops like dominoes. Thank god Tormund lived, or I would not be responsible for my actions.

      Agree that the acting was phenomenal last night, but I still don’t like Sansa.

      I also agree that Rickon needed to zig, then zag. My husband was yelling the same thing.

      • kacy says:

        Sansa didn’t want to rely on Littlefinger. She was forced to send that letter when it became apparent that John was moving forward regardless. She didn’t tell him because the help wouldn’t be definite, or he might have caused issues creating another deadly enemy.

    • Sara says:

      I agree it was one of the BEST episodes of the entire show, ever. I loved it! They really turned game of thrones around. Season five was just painful to watch but this season has so many great moments. The action makes up for the clunky dialog. That battle scene was amazing. Jon, Dany and Sansa are KILLING IT! I also loved that John was going to lose and then Sansa saves his butt at the end. The women of GOT are starting to come into their own. I also loved Dany’s line about how her rule is just beginning. So good.

  2. JustCrimmles says:

    I screamed the entire episode. Fear for Tormund, Jon, Rickon who we all already knew was a goner. Rip Wun Wun. Til the very end.

    Between this and OITNB, my emotions can’t take much more 😭

    • lilacflowers says:

      I knew Tormund would make it through. He had to for Brienne. Jon and Davos, however, not so certain.

      • JustCrimmles says:

        Haha, I threatened to stop watching if they kill Tormund. Y’all off whoever you feel, but you leave me my wildling! I mean, uh, Brienne’s wildling.

        Sansa Fierce 😂 yes indeed.

      • NotSoSocialButterfly says:

        Good grief that was anxiety provoking! I kept saying, “Not Tormund! Nooooo! He has to hook up with Brienne!” Had they killed off Tormund, I might have had to stop watching the series right. at. that. moment.

        And the near crushing of Jon was one of the many moments in which I shouted, “YOU NOW NOTHING, JON SNOW!” at my television. He was such a bumbler so many times in this episode.

    • M.A.F. says:

      If anyone but Ramsey died I was going to done with the show.

    • JustCrimmles says:

      @TG, oh yes, only until next week. And only in spirit. 😉

    • isabelle says:

      Glad Tormund lived. Truly my great joy of this episode. He lives, Brienne gave up n jamie, its happening! Also you can see why they call the “free people” the Wildings. He Rick Grimed smalljohn.

    • Lotta says:

      I watched the last to episodes of OITNB today on a train and I cried so much that I had to go into a disgusting bathroom and calm myself down twice. My soul still hurts.

      Watching GOT yesterday I totally broke down when the cute giant died, but the feeling of seeing Sansa getting back at Ramsey for the rape and everything else he did was sweet. Finally a scene in GOT when women aren’t sexual weak victim.

  3. lilacflowers says:

    *Softly, with respect*
    ShaggyDog and Shireen (yes, lost earlier but revisited)
    Rickon
    WunWun

    *Shouting and punching the air*
    DROGON!
    RHAEGAL!
    VISERION!

    DANY & YARA & SANSA FIERCE!!!

    Nice bit of possible foreshadowing for next week with Tyrion telling Dany about her father’s wildfyre below the Sept.

    Eve! Eve! OMG! You were so right about Ramsay’s dogs!

    • Eve says:

      I wrote a long comment but it didn’t make it to the thread (sh*tty internet provider) but…
      YEEEEEESSSSSSSSS!

      The episode was almost perfect.

      Jon Snow was awesome — have always had faith on him.

      Shame the scene with Ramsey being his beast’s dinner being so short. I wanted that scene to last longer, with even more gore. And with him untied so the dogs would have better access to their meal.

      FINALLY Daenarys realized she had THREE motherf*cking dragons and didn’t have to take sh*t from no one;

      Even Greyworm had his moment with a badass move that decapitated two a**holes at once!!!

      Always loved Yara. Ferocious, brave, honest and always straight to the point.

      • lilacflowers says:

        You predicted and wanted that scene with Ramsay and the dogs!

        Sansa holding the North. Dany and Yara coming in from the South. Arya and Brienne coming from their own separate paths. Cersei has no idea what is heading her way.

      • Eve says:

        @ Lilac:

        Cersei has no idea of anything. Bitch is dumber than a bag of rocks.

      • NotSoSocialButterfly says:

        I called that manner of death in my home, too. Mr. ‘Fly thought Theon would off him (???!!!!). I said that the only fitting death was by Sansa’s hand and to be fed to the hounds, as he threatened that toward others so often. Yay!

      • M.A.F. says:

        And just think, if Cersei had just an ounce of Tyrion”s know how, she could have ruled Casterly Rock when Dany came back.

  4. Talie says:

    I was living for Sansa being cold-blooded this episode — even telling Jon to basically forget Rickon. Daenerys and Yara, I loved!

    • maria says:

      I so hope Dany and Yara get’s it on! Dany is bi in the books and Yara in the tv show so hope lives! Yara got a wicked posture and ass by the way. I need to go to the gym and hit the weights!

      I loved Sansa. All grown up. But beware of Littlefinger!

      • Jackrabbit says:

        Too funny – I missed most of the dialogue during that scene because I was so focused on Yara’s perfect posture! : )

      • HyacinthBucket says:

        I, too, almost drooled over Yara’s posture. Strong, self-confident, at ease. I am 90% hetero, but she surely tickled the 10% for me.

      • mary s says:

        Her bod is inspiring!

    • Bettyrose says:

      I’m so conflicted. At what point did Sansa decide to enlist Little finger’s army? Knowing she Had LF coming for her 1. Could she have risked negotiating with Ramsey for Rickon trusting LF to arrive in time to save them both? 2. Did she need to let Jon Snow’s army get slaughtered first? Was it to weaken Ramsey’s army? Was that her strategy all along? A good one, but damn that’s cold.

      • FingerBinger says:

        She wrote him a letter 2 episodes ago iirc. A Stark heir was a threat. Sansa knew Ramsey wasn’t going to let Rickon live. Jon’s army was outnumbered it was going to get slaughtered regardless.

      • Bettyrose says:

        Right. So basically Sansa is the coldest bitch ever for sacrificing Rickon and letting Jon’s army get slaughtered (which wouldn’t have been outnumbered with the addition of LF’s army), crushing Ramsey as her only end game. IDK. I’m pissed at Sansa for sacrificing her own brother so callously. Ramsey’s a dipshit. She could have offered him negotiations, knowing LF was coming.

      • TG says:

        She didn’t know LF was coming tho. She does, however, know that Ramsay is a sadistic f-ck and there was absolutely no way Ramsay was going to let Rickon live. Zero chance.

      • megs283 says:

        She didn’t sacrifice Rickon – he was dead the second Ramsay’s soldiers caught him. She was probably already mourning Rickon…Ramsay was a sadistic whacko who lived for killing people, especially Stark heirs. Also, I believe Littlefinger showed up just in time. She sent off a raven but never received a response. I don’t think they were waiting in the wings.

      • Bettyrose says:

        TG, okay, I’ll buy that she didn’t know for certain LF was on his way, which better justifies her strategy.

      • JenniferJustice says:

        Sansa didn’t sacrifice Jon’s army. She wrote to Little Finger but she didn’t know if his army would show or not.

        I’ve learned that there seems to be a few people I’ll call the chosen ones who even when faced with the worst odds, if they fight and maintain their integrity, they will live….because they are destined so fate seems to work in their favor. Jon, Dany, Arya, Bran, Sansa and I few I haven’t figured out yet. I think there will be/are seven good people who are destined to rule the 7 realms. I don’t think any of them will die. They are meant to ALL lead – one for each of the 7 thrones. The number seven is magical in GOT – 7 septs, 7 kingdoms/thrones, the Faith of the Seven (one God with seven aspects to follow). I beleive strongly 7 good people will lead in the end.

      • TG says:

        Oh I like that 7 theory, a lot. Except between the WW and the dragons, there might not be much of a realm left. I keep thinking the story sort of parallels the Doom of Valyria, which you know, didn’t really end up good for anybody.

      • Nikki says:

        BETTYROSE, I interpreted it VERY differently. Sansa kept telling Jon they didn’t have enough men to be successful, but Jon wouldn’t listen. So she sent Littlefinger a letter or message asking for men to fight. She had no control over when they arrived!! She didn’t arrange for them to arrive almost last minute. I was SO proud of fierce, smart Sansa for not just going along with what her big brother, an experienced fighter, said. Also, she didn’t sacrifice Rikkon; she just knew that Ramsay would never let Rikkon live. She knew, sadly, there was no chance for him. She tried to explain him to Jon so he wouldn’t make a mistake – which he DID- but thanks to Sansa, Ramsay was defeated. LOVED this. Agree with all who were terrified Torveld would get killed; he’s my crush!! Glad Arya has come to herself, but I was screaming for Sansa!

      • Bettyrose says:

        Thanks, NIKKI, I like that explanation, and I need to rewatch the last few episodes.

      • TG says:

        @Bettyrose, also keep in mind, can’t remember if I posted this here already (I’ve been geeking out all over the web), but Sansa knew Jon would never collude with the man that sold her to Ramsay. So she took huge risk (thankfully) and it paid off.

      • bettyrose says:

        TG, that makes sense too. Littlefinger is disgusting, but I applaud Sansa for making use of his army, which was absolutely necessary. If Jon Snow refused to deal with him, I respect that too, but why – WHY?? – did JS storm into battle with no possible outcome other than losing? I still struggle with that part.

      • TG says:

        If you’re asking why he stormed into battle after Rickon was killed, that’s because he fell for Ramsay’s bait, just like Sansa said he would do. But other than that, they didn’t have a choice. Ramsay knew where they were, and just like Stannis’ army, Ramsay would have murdered them all where they sat. He didn’t really have any other option (watch the pre-battle scene with Sansa again).

    • Rachel says:

      That was the best scene of the episode for me. I didn’t think she was being cold-blooded, but it showed the completion of the arc in her character development. When the show started, Sansa was a girl who believed in true love and happily ever afters. Adult Sansa knows the game now. Peter said it best. In the game of thrones, you win or you die. She knew Ramsey would not let Rickon live. She also knew he would use Rickon to play with them. And I agree that she began mourning her brother the moment she learned Ramsey had him. He died for her in that moment.

  5. Pinky says:

    It was a war epic. Felt like a 90-minute war movie with nonstop blood, guts, and gore, and everything grey.

    Didn’t really like Sansa’s revenge. She’s smart and got the army Jon needed, though behind his back, but ber revenge on Ramsay left me feeling little, if not cold. She didn’t inspire me to root for her.

    –TheRealPinky

    • megs283 says:

      Mixed feelings about this. What did Ramsay say? Something like “A part of me is in you”? His death was something he would have done, and perhaps he’s right…a part of him is in Sansa now. At the same time…it was justice. He killed a BABY with his dogs. That man was evil. Ned Stark did always advocate for fairness, and justice, even when it doesn’t sit well. (Like Ollie getting the noose.)

      • Diana B says:

        Besides, he was so sure his dogs would not attack him so whatching him get nervious telling the to sit was perfection. He deserved to die that way and Sansa slayed last night.

      • Salsgal says:

        No that is not what he said.
        He said, “You can’t kill me. I am part of you.” This in in the sense that he will always be in her brain somehow because of the trauma.

      • Rachel says:

        I wondered if his words had two meanings. Yes- what he did to her changed who she is. Changed her outlook, the way she interacts with others. I also wondered if it was foreshadowing, and she’s pregnant.

    • Carrie says:

      Do you think that Sansa is pregnant with Ramsay’s baby? He could suspect as such, which is why he said that “A part of me is in you”…

      • Pinky says:

        I don’t know. I really hope not. That would be all kinds of horrible. Therefore, it’s definitely going to happen.

        –TheRealPinky

      • Andrea says:

        Oh god I hope not!

      • Carrie says:

        I also hope this is not going to happen. What a nightmare for Sansa. However, for her past several scenes, she has been wearing heavy cloaks, which could be masking a pregnancy…

      • paolanqar says:

        Even if Sansa is pregnant and considering how driven and cold blooded she has become, she would have no problems in getting rid of that baby. No reason to keep a Bolton baby alive. especially since now all the Boltons are extinct and she is back in Winterfell.

  6. Abbott says:

    WUN WUN!!!! He went out like a G.

    I have never been so happy to watch someone get their face snarfed off. Who are we supposed to direct our hate on now? Melisandre? Littlefinger?

    Did Sansa know for sure that the Vale were going to show up? Because if she did, that was a stone cold sh*t move to not tell Jon.

    • LadyMTL says:

      LOL Abbott, I was right there too with Ramsay’s end. I mean, I was almost cackling “muahaha” as Sansa walked away from his cell. Of course, then I felt odd for being so happy that someone (albeit a fictional someone) got eaten by dogs. 😛

      And RIP Wun-Wun, he will be missed.

      • lilacflowers says:

        Loved that the dog licked his face first.

      • Eve says:

        @ LadyMTL:

        Ramsey got what he deserved. If it were me, I’d resuscitate him so he could be killed AGAIN.

        And oh, how much I loved Jon Snow in this episode: honor and courage with that shield, charging at that idiot with that look in his eyes and finally punching the little coward like “one punch for every time you called me a bastard”.

        Kit Harrington was PERFECT yesterday.

        P.S.: Yes, I can’t wait for Sir Davos to confront the Red Woman.

      • paolanqar says:

        It seemed to me like Jon was protected during the whole battle. It was so evident. All the arrows and the swords avoiding him the whole time. I think he has realised that too.

    • lilacflowers says:

      I don’t think she knew for sure. She had no idea if her message got through or if they would come.

      • Eve says:

        She has to be careful with Littlefinger now. That weasel is the mastermind behind a LOT of crap since the first episode!

      • mom2two says:

        That’s what I thought. I don’t think she was 100% sure if they’d show up or not. And I don’t think, after Ramsey killed Rickon, Jon would have waited for them to arrive after that.
        And there was her line to Jon after he said “I will protect you.” She replies, “No one can protect me. No one can protect anyone.”
        Unfortunately, Sansa was spot on about Ramsey with Rickon…as a male, true born son of Ned, no way would Ramsey let him live. Sansa and Jon’s claims to Winterfell are shaky at best-Jon being a bastard and her being a woman (and previously married to a Lannister and a Bolton). I don’t think Jon and Sansa will have earned the loyalty of the Karstarks (whose father was rightfully beheaded by Robb and current Lord killed by Davos) or the Umbers, since the Smalljon was killed by a wilding Tormund. So when Jon tells Sansa they have a lot of enemies (in next weeks previews)—they do within the North and outside of the North (Lannisters, Freys, possibly Greyjoys). It will be interesting when word travels South that Jon and Sansa have retaken Winterfell.

      • mayamae says:

        I don’t think King’s Landing will be in any shape to care about who holds Winterfell.

      • Whatwhatnot says:

        But Littlefinger has also put himself at risk since the Lannisters will find out he did a turncoat move against them. I mean, Cersei may be a bit preoccupied at the moment but, she was very clear with him last season that there would be hell to pay should he try anything funny. Walder Frey and Jaime are in a position to do something about it, unless Jaime’s conscience and bond with Brienne will bring a change of heart. I wonder how that’s gonna work out for Littlefinger.

      • Goodnight says:

        That doesn’t excuse not even telling Jon it was a possibility. It was clearly done to show she’s making moves like LF and keeping secrets (and for the big reveal), but they forgot to include any in-universe motivation for not telling him.

    • Size Does Matter says:

      @Abbott – who do we direct our anger at now? I’m going with Walder Frey, Cersei and the Mountain, and the Night King/White Walkers/wights. And maybe Euron.

      Is there one season left or two? I’m afraid Dany will finally get back to Westeros and nothing will be left to care about between wildfyre and wights.

      • TG says:

        Two seasons left but only 7 eps in each, I believe. Walder is def worthy of disgust, but Euron is the certified new antagonist. Dude is creepy AF.

      • Size Does Matter says:

        @TG, Euron hasn’t done enough to make me hate him yet. Plus he looks like Joshua Jackson wrapped in driftwood so I’m kind of in lust. To me the big baddies are the ones who hurt Starks. So I guess I should hate Littlefinger and Jaime, too, but I don’t.

      • TG says:

        I’m assuming you didn’t read the books? Euron is a super villain! Lol at your description of the actor tho, he’s smoldering for sure.

      • Size Does Matter says:

        I did read the books, but everything is so different now I’m trying to keep them separate in my mind. All HBO Euron did is bump off his creepy brother, take the throne, talk about his cock, and vow to kill Yara and Theon. That’s pretty tame for GoT! Plus I think he sounds kind of cool in the books – with his one scorched arm and stuff.

    • Pamela says:

      I don’t think she knew for sure that they would show up. If she was *sure* they were coming, I feel like she would have told Jon so that he could wait and have enough soldiers. I know Jon was all “we have to do it NOW, puny numbers or not”. But the Vale showed up during the battle, so it seems like if she knew for sure, Jon would have been easily convinced to wait that amount of time.

  7. Hazel says:

    Does Rickon dying mean it’s also the end of the Stark line? I’m presuming Bran wouldn’t be able to reproduce heirs anymore unless he can do an immaculate conception with his superpowers.

    I loved that it wasn’t a glorified version of war. It’s gritty, chaotic and frankly, a lot of luck to be able to survive.

    RIP Wun Wun and Hodor. Two gentle giants of the North.

    • Pansy says:

      I mean, he’d be able to. Men with paralysis can father kids just fine. But I don’t think that’s his destiny on the show.

    • mom2two says:

      I don’t think it’s been said in the show or books if Bran can reproduce. I know that was a concern of Ned’s in the books. I am going to say that Bran can but I don’t know if that’s his destiny or not. The Stark line, I think, will go on through Jon-who I think even when he finds out his true parentage will claim himself as a Stark and continue on that way.

    • Lucrezia says:

      Sansa becomes Lady Stark and if she marries a lower-ranking male, they keep her surname. Descent in the female line is established in the GOT universe: see House Mormont,

      • Miss Melissa says:

        Anyone notice how the women are suddenly taking charge of all the houses? The men made all the mess, and now the women are there to clean it up:

        Martell, Targaryen, Mormont, Greyjoy, Tyrell, now Stark… And Lannister. I am wondering if the end game is the women end up ruling Westeros? The irony will be that Cersei will not rule house Lannister or the seven kingdoms, as she has always aspired.

        Interesting.

      • Scotchy says:

        @Miss Melissa,

        I was just thinking the same thing, this season has been all about putting the women in charge. It started off obviously with Dany, then Dorn, now Yara and Sansa. I think Margery will pull some fast moves in King’s landing and in the end we will see a battle of Queens, or perhaps a reasonable round table chat 🙂 Ha ha, more like fire and blood, but it’s interesting to see how this is slowly shaping up.

    • phlyfiremama says:

      No, because Rhaegar and Lyanna were actually secretly married~remember she wasn’t kidnapped, she ran away with Rhaegar because they were in love. Jon is a legitimate Stark heir~and also the Targaryen heir, as the male descendant of Rhaegar, who was the Heir to the Mad King~

      • TG says:

        Isn’t that all implied tho, about the marriage?

      • Original T.C. says:

        One, we have no idea if Lyanna got married-kind of weird that Rhaegaer wouldn’t have announced that since it would mean legally, the Starks starting a war to get her back would be moot. Legally she would “belong to Rhaegaer” or his house and is no longer a Stark. Ned’s hands would be tied and he is too much a man of honor to go kidnap a married woman. Once you are married and have sex, your fate is sealed.

        Also at the time, Rhegaer already had a male heir-Jon would be a second son. Rhegaer died of course probably in Lyanna’s 1st trimester of pregnancy. Back to present, Jon can rule over House Tarygaryen not House Stark. It’s Ned’s children-male first then women-who get House Stark. Jon is Ned’s nephew not his son.

        Remember in the book work, Sansa is not with Ramsey in the North and Rickon is the one kept alive for the North to rally around. GRRM says that due to events on the show, things will happen on there that won’t happen in the book. I don’t think Rickon dies in the books.

        For the TV show following Stark children: Sansa is out of inheritance because she is now a Bolton (or Lannister when Tyrion returns). So Bran, Arya are left. Bran is the sole male heir to house Stark. I’m sure if willing, he can find a way to sign it over to Arya. It’s only fitting that she becomes the matriarch and Warden of the North 🙂

      • lilacflowers says:

        Rhaegar was married to Ellia Martel

    • Rachel says:

      They just revealed that Ned’s younger brother is alive (even though no one other than Bran and Meera know that currently). So technically, Bran is the heir. However, should Bran renounce his claim, or should he die without issue, the title would pass to Uncle Benjen. Although that’s quite tricky. As a brother of the Night’s Watch, he renounced his family. But maybe his new “condition” gives him a pass like Jon?

      • M.A.F. says:

        Uncle Benjen isn’t alive alive. He is an oddball White Walker. He said so himself.

  8. Aiobhan says:

    Such an amazing episode. I was screaming ZIGZAG ZIGZAG for a full minute. Poor Rickon.

    I loved every single second of the Meereen scenes- especially the alliance between Dany and Yara. This is a relationship that I did not know that I needed in my life. The exchange between Tyrion and Theon was also well done. Is it bad that I thought Greyworm was so hot for taking out the two slave masters?

    I think (or hope) Daario was feeding info to the harpies so that he can just die so that Dara/ Yany can rise.

    My fav parts of the battle was the cinematography and the direction. Everything was so beautiful and effective. Like I felt I was being trampled along with Jon. Also, the scene when Davos finds the toy was heartbreaking and gorgeous at the same time.

    Sansa took a gamble and actually won this time. I usually find her useless but I will actually eat crow and say she did a really good job here. I hope she shanks Littlefinger next episode though. I am obviously just as blood thirsty as Dany was last night and I will not apologize for it.

    • Abbott says:

      That shot of the sun rising behind Davos when he found Shireen’s toy was amazing.

      • TG says:

        Yeah when the wind lifted his cape, that was a stunning minute of cinematography. Feel so bad for him…Buh Bye Red Witch!

      • Goodnight says:

        I agree with TG, that was a gorgeous shot. Probably my favourite moment of the episode.

    • maria says:

      Littlefinger really needs to be finished off. He is the one who put everything in motion. And betrayed Ned Stark in King’s landing. (is it Eddard Stark and Ned was his nickname? can’t remember)

      • Amberica says:

        Yes, it’s Eddard. But re: Littlefinger- bite your tongue! I know he’s bad, but he’s smart. I love smart.

    • Eve says:

      @ Aiobhan:

      No, it’s not bad that you found Greyworm hot in that scene. He decided it for himself and holy sh*t if that wasn’t an amazing move.

    • Size Does Matter says:

      I thought Littlefinger looked dead sexy on that horse next to Sansa. SHAME *rings bell*

      • TG says:

        He’s a handsome fella. Another one that’s worthy to watch in interviews, very soft spoken and intelligent and I love that as an actor he tries to bring some humanity to one of the coldest villians on the show.

      • NotSoSocialButterfly says:

        *also ringing the bell of shame*

      • Carmen says:

        No shame in that, Littlefinger is a total babe. And in that moment on his horse, with that smirk on his face as he watched the Boltons lose… man, I love that guy.

      • Carrie says:

        No shame! I also thought that Littlefinger looked very handsome last night. It’s only until he opens his mouth and words come out that the “ick” factor sets in 🙂

      • Jaana says:

        Me too! He was so sexy and hot on that horse!

    • JenniferJustice says:

      I was screaming SERPENTINE! Sad when I’m watching GOT but a Will Farell line came to mind.

  9. bela says:

    I think Kit Harington does really well in action-oriented episodes, and people who say Kit is a one-note actor should start biting their tongues.
    ——————

    So true ! Harington was AMAZING (and hot even when he’s covered in blood and sweat) !

    • Diana B says:

      So, SO hot!

    • FingerBinger says:

      He is a one-note actor but he was finally good.

    • Angelica says:

      Agreed. This episode, Hardhome and the battle at castle black before that, he’s been mesmerizing to watch. He really can pull off action. And I know this site doesn’t find him too sexy, but he looks so foooiiiiinnne in action scenes, right?

      • Cali says:

        I will agree with you, he was foooiiinnne last night. 🙂 I’m actually finding him hotter with the hair pulled back rather than all curly and wild.

  10. Louise177 says:

    I can’t believe I was sad that Wun Wun was killed. I thought he was fun but didn’t really care about him. So I thought. I’m surprised Rickon made it this far. It would have been more surprising if he lived. I thought for a second he would since he was so close to Jon. Kind of wish Ramsey had a more violent death but glad Sansa finished him off.

    • Erinn says:

      I didn’t watch – I can’t handle it so I read recaps and the husband watched without me – but my god. EVERY tv show where animals are being starved so that they’ll hunt down someone ALWAYS backfires on the person abusing them. It’s like… classic tv. And I was so excited about it.

      • mayamae says:

        The great part was Ramsay telling Sansa his dogs would never hurt him, and her reminding him he’d starved them for ten days. I really hate that they used a bully breed to kill Ramsay. Just reinforces the stereotype.

      • TG says:

        Thank you! Cane Corsos, looks like too. That bugged the f-ck out of me, I wish they would have used his blood hounds instead.

      • Rachel says:

        Yes. I was very bothered by that also. And the thing is, the dog they were using in the seen looked so sweet. Like he just looked happy, you know. Right up until they started with the graphic dog.

    • TG says:

      Getting your face beat in til you can’t breathe and then having your beloved dogs rip off said face and eaten is pretty damn violent in my book.

      • Moneypenny says:

        I agree–not really sure what could have been a more violent death!

      • Rachel says:

        Being flayed alive. That would have been fitting given their house symbol & how proud he was of it.

  11. Jenns says:

    What an episode.

    I question Dany’s ability to rule, but man, I love seeing her on those dragons. And speakingof dragons, I am still holding out hope that the White Walkers have, or will come into possession of an ice dragon. Because that is a battle I want to see.

    That battle scene was so intense, especially when they were surrounded. Miguel Sapochnik did Hardhome last year and he did not disappoint with this episode. The direction of the battle was amazing. I was so nervous! And why did Rickon run in a straight line?!?I really am surprised that the only deaths were Rickon and Wun Wun. I thought Tormund or Davos would be on the chopping block.

    Sansa is killing this season. I knwo there was some complaints about not telling Jon about Littlefinger, but as she pointed out, the men were not listening to her. So she did her own thing. The women really are killing it this season.

    A few minor points–I need more Lady Mormont. Her stink eye to Ramsay was the best.

    And I have never really found Jon Snow attractive at all. But damn if he doesn’t look hot a f**k this season. Maybe it’s the man bun. Or that fact that he isn’t wearing that ratty Night’s Watch cloak.

    And I so want to see The Wall come down next week. I can’t believe we are at the end. What the heck am I suppose to do now on Sunday nights?

    • JustCrimmles says:

      Oh yeah, a girl would have experienced a new and exciting sensation in her naughty bits, had this Jon Snow been around for her formative years. Aye Chihuahua. 😶

    • Abbott says:

      If I were Rickon I would’ve run straight for one of those wooden flayed things and hid. But Rickon is a Stark and they usually do the dumbest thing imaginable.

      I’m in the GODDAMNIT SANSA-camp. If she knew the Vale were there and she didn’t say anything, that’s just straight up spiteful and cost a lot of lives.

      • Hazel says:

        Yes, that was really bad writing. They wanted the Vale Knights as a surprise although a lot of the viewers already knew Sansa was writing to Littlefinger.

      • Jenns says:

        But she didn’t know. She sent a message, but there was no response. And how long could they have held off on the battle? Ramsay knew what they were planning, so if they just sat around, they would’ve been sitting ducks.

        And as you pointed out, the Starks do dumb sh*t. So that’s why I am ok with Sansa doing her own thing in this situation.

      • EM says:

        @Jenns – I think she knew. She was very confident in her meeting with Ramsay that he would die and that wasn’t because of Jon & forces. Personally she was beyond cold – she wrote off her brothers for the sake of revenge.

      • TG says:

        Man you guys are totally demonizing her. If she had known, she would have told Jon, which is why during their argument she told him she wished he had consulted her, as she would have told him to wait. Her telling Ramsay he was going to die is what any battle lord would say to their rival. I said it up thread, but she knew Ramsay would never let Rickon live, it just was not possible. Personally, I thought she was being a pragmatic boss bitch in this ep, FINALLY.

      • mayamae says:

        I agree Sansa wasn’t sure that LF would show up. That’s the reason she told Jon she wouldnt be taken alive.

      • NotSoSocialButterfly says:

        @TG
        I agree with the pragmatism. She was the cacique, for sure.

      • M.A.F. says:

        She said to Jon that he should have waited, that they needed more men. She was waiting to hear back from Littlefinger which is why she never said anything.

      • Jen43 says:

        I think it was crap writing that she turned down Littlefinger the first time. It seems like they needed that to set up a battle where it looked like Jon was going to lose. I wonder what LF is going to want from her now that she basically had to come back and beg for help.

      • TG says:

        Also, she couldn’t exactly tell Jon, yo I just asked for help from the dude that sold me to the sadist that took over our house and might possibly kill us all. Don’t think that would sit well with Jon.

        LF wants Sansa’s hand in marriage. Will be interesting to know if he knows Jon’s true parentage…

  12. smcollins says:

    Lastnight’s episode was incredible, and had me on the edge of my seat! That final scene was everything and a long time coming!

  13. Pansy says:

    Loved last night. Figured Rickon would die, but still sucks to see any Stark go. So glad both Jon and Sansa are growing into themselves finally.
    I think Sansa’s pregnant.
    Also, I’m kinda scared the puppet master behind this entire game, Littlefinger, got involved. I mean, they would’ve lost if he hadn’t, but Littlefinger’s going to want something. He always does.

    • Abbott says:

      I also think Sansa is pregnant. They seem to have been alluding to it all season. A part of him will always be with her.

      The Littlefinger factor has me worried, too. And I don’t think Jon has a clue what that dude is capable of.

      • Valois says:

        Ramsa wouldn’t know that she’s pregnant. Sansa being pregnant would be shit writing times ten, as it doesn’t benefit the storyline and is unrealistic (no moontea- why?)

      • QQ says:

        Right they’ve been foreshadowing this all season, she keeps saying she still feels him inside of her, he says part of him is in her etc

      • Size Does Matter says:

        If Sansa’s pregnant she needs to bone somebody quick so she can pretend it’s not Ramsay’s baby. Bet she uses Littlefinger for it. Marries him, beds him, later disposes of him.

      • TG says:

        Makes no sense to birth a bastard child of a known pyscho.

      • mayamae says:

        @TG, maybe it makes sense since Sansa has lost so much family. The baby would have part of Ned and Cat, too. I’ve suspected Sansa was pregnant from the start, but prayed the hints are a mislead.

      • TG says:

        It doesn’t serve any purpose for the story tho. #TeamMoonTea all the way. Lol

      • Salsgal says:

        Not what he said. He said, “I will always be a part of you.” Very different.

    • Erinn says:

      I was hoping beyond hope that Sansa was getting Littlefinger into a trap with Ramsay’s men to help beat down the troops so she and Jon would have a better shot. I’ve always hated Littlefinger.

      • Eve says:

        @ Erinn:

        I, too, hate Littlefinger. Let’s hope Sansa doesn’t derail into her damsel in distress syndrome from previous seasons.

    • Jenns says:

      I really hope she is not pregnant. That’s a big story line to introduce this late into the story.

      As for Littlefinger, I do think he’ll ask for Sansa to marry him. And if that does happen, the best we can hope for is that the White Walkers crash the wedding.

      • Eve says:

        @ Jenns:

        LOL at the White Walkers crashing the wedding (by the way, they’re my favorite characters — you read that right).

      • Jenns says:

        The White Walkers are totally my favorite characters too.

        When they show up, awesome sh*t goes down.

      • NotSoSocialButterfly says:

        LF will want a marriage as payment for his assistance, and he thinks it will solidify his position. I hope Sansa offs him after she has played him. That would be proper justice for LF, as well- much like Ramsay’s fate at Sansa’s hand.

      • lilacflowers says:

        It has been a while since we have had a good Westeros wedding. One in which a bunch of people die.

  14. Lucky says:

    I must be in the minority because I really thought Rickon was going to make it. I guess because I’m a dedicated book reader and I really believed he was going to end up being Lord of Winterfell. Anyway, I screamed and started sobbing really crying. I have to go back & watch the episode again because I was so distracted by his death. Agree about Kit Harington he was really really good last night. Sansa has become very un-Stark like to her credit. Littlefinger is going to want his payback now!

    • FingerBinger says:

      I thought Melisandre was going to bring Rickon back.

    • Jen43 says:

      They should have had him zig zag. I was yelling that at the screen because, even I know that would be the best way to evade the arrows. Those Starks are good but dumb.

      • Carrie says:

        I was also screaming zig zag like a lunatic last night! It was such a heart-wrenching scene… To not see your brother for years, and your first interaction is to watch him be killed…

  15. mytake says:

    ” To be fair, the kid needed to learn to zigzag.”

    LOL! Yes! I damn near lost my voice, screaming at Rickon, “ZIGZAG! WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU!? ZIGZAG!”

    • Diana B says:

      Yeah, I was like, Dude! not a stright line! Zig zag damn it!

    • TG says:

      Yeah because a scared, possible beaten and probably starved kid is gonna try to outwit not one psychopath archer, but two front lines of archers. He was toast the moment he was captured.

    • NotSoSocialButterfly says:

      I think that was a common response! I yelled it a couple of times, too. God, those Starks.

  16. Diana B says:

    Last night’s episode was EVERYTHING! Yara and Danny flirting was everything. Danny burning those masters’ asses was everyting. Davos running into battle was everything. That battle almost giving me a heart attack was everything. Tormund not dying and killing that traitor was everything. Jon punching douchebag sadistic Ramsey was everything and Sansa walking away with her bad b!tch smirk leaving behind the psycho’s screamings WAS. EVERYTHING. Best episode ever.

    I don’t like Little Finger got in there just in time to save the day like we all knew it was gonna happen but last night my only thought was, Thank the seven he showed up in time! It appears Sansa will have to marry him by the looks of the preview.

    I had never spend and hour in front of my tv yelling at it, but last night that’s all I did. So yeah, HBO, you did good.

    • mayamae says:

      I really hope the show doesn’t go there. I think Sansa’s eyes are truly open with LF. I hope if he proposes she says something like -“yeah, thanks for saving our asses, but fu*k off. I finally figured out that you started this nightmare and here’s what I think of you”, then she spits in his face. Bonus points for Ghost escorting LF off Winterfell property.

      • msd says:

        I know many people want Sansa to be a ruling Lady of Winterfell and Queen in the North but frankly, it would be better for her right now if she wasn’t. She’d have every predatory lord in Westeros after her, trying to take over. Littlefinger wants her to be the leading Stark but I suspect she’s going to turn the tables on him by backing Jon. I’m cool with that, not because he’s a boy but because he’s the older sibling and I don’t think being a bastard should matter.

  17. Jenns says:

    Here’s an extended video of Jon punching Ramsay in the face.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8LivWPrpA0

    And if you don’t watch Ozzy Man Reviews, do yourself a favor and catch-up on his GOT stuff. He is really funny, but also very insightful.

    • antipodean says:

      Ozzy Man’s GOT reviews are absolutely ACES, and have me laughing so hard my ribs ache. You can find him on You Tube with his best cobber Mozza. If you need a laugh in your day, go here.

      • Eve says:

        @ Antipodean:

        Phew! Found you!

        My dear, left you a message on that embarrassing Hiddleston wearing underwear post.

        Please read it. It must be at the end of the thread.

        :*

        P.S.: Also, my already sh*tty internet went down almost the entire morning.

      • antipodean says:

        @Eve, you are too kind to take the trouble to find me. I posted over on Hiddle’s underwear fiasco. post 105, in reply. Take care of yourself.

  18. Elizabeth says:

    The only way the episode could have been improved would be if Wun-Wun had fallen on Ramsay as he died.

  19. Grace says:

    Wow, what an elevated thread!

    GOT virgin here. You guys make me wanna start reading the books. 🙂

  20. Soprana says:

    So happy Ghost is still alive. I know they needed the budget for dragons and the battle, but I’m telling myself Jon made him stay home after he saw what they did to Shaggydog.

  21. Lbliss says:

    Jon Snow got played by every one who was smarter. What a tool, he took the bait and almost sacrificed his entire army for it. What a common dumby.

    • Whatwhatnot says:

      I mean in all fairness, that was his little brother and Jon is loyal to a fault and Ramsey knew exactly how to exploit his emotions. Sansa has become cold, too cold maybe, but I don’t blame her. She witnessed her own father’s beheading, she heard first hand accts of what happened to Robb and Catelyn, she suffered emotional and physical torture from BOTH Joffrey and Ramsey. Jon still maintains his honor and like Stannis told him, honor will get him killed. I love the purity and innocence of who Jon is and I’m torn because I think that is part of his greatness, but he needs to get a bit more savage if he wants to prevail.

    • msd says:

      He did something foolish and emotional but very human. Sansa tried to warn him but he didn’t have any experience with Ramsay. It’s okay for heroes to make mistakes.

  22. Stephanie says:

    For a second, and it’s still not fully shaken, I thought Ramsey was implying that Sansa was pregnant. **Shudders** I was screaming at the TV “Feed his @ss to the dogs!!” So i was excited when she actually did. As much as I’m excited that the sick f*ck is dead, he is an incredible actor. I’ll be revisiting Misfits.

  23. shewolf says:

    Sansa knew Ramsay and Sansa knew Jon… Jon is exactly the type of person that would fall into a Ramsay trap and that’s exactly what he did. Sansa wanted to win the war, not the battle and because of that a lot more people lived than those who died because of the information she withheld. All of those who died in that battle died because of Jon’s mistakes. It would make no difference if their army had the Knights of the Vale from the beginning because Jon would have led them all to their deaths any way. Ramsay may have been a savage but he wasn’t stupid, he got as far as he did because of his skills in being a mega strategist. He was right in what he said to Sansa, that he would always be a part of her because his brutality taught her to be a strategist like him, only better. Littlefinger is on her hit list… it’s only a matter of time.

    • TG says:

      I like that theory and that’s def true re: Jon’s battle strategy, but I still am not sure she knew the Vale was coming.

  24. mayamae says:

    I made most of my points in the other thread before I discovered this one. But I loved how Drogon unfurled his wing so Dany could climb it like stairs. They’re getting better and better at it.

    • TG says:

      IKR? Most of the time I think the dragon CGI is cheesy (fun, but still cheesy) but last night was just pure wow factor.

    • NotSoSocialButterfly says:

      When he landed next to her, I said (in the voice I use to speak for my pup), “Hi, Mom!”

      Then I complained to Mr.’Fly that I was tired of seeing her ride dragons.

    • Whatwhatnot says:

      Drogon is such a Mama’s Boy lol. Its cute.

  25. Lucy says:

    DAT EPISODE, MAN. Pure epicness. I must say I lol’ed hard (of joy, of course) at two particular moments: Tormund’s biting scene, and Sansa’s “I f*cking told you so” face while looking at Jon when the Vale forces arrive.

  26. JenniferJustice says:

    This latest episode was epic! I was on the edge of the seat (couch) through the whoel Battle of Bastards. I wrung my hands, bit my nails, and had serious anxiety. Holy Moly!

  27. babyb says:

    dany and yara: my new ship!

  28. Jenns says:

    I really hope Tormund seduces Brienne with the tale of how he helped win a battle by ripping a man’s throat apart with his teeth.

    • Salsgal says:

      Brienne likes refined, gentlemanly men. Not wildlings who don’t understand what strategy is.

      • antipodean says:

        I beg to differ, every girl, even the lovely Brienne, likes a bit of rough on occasion. Tormund would fill the bill nicely methinks.

      • LuckyZeGrand says:

        Better Tormund than Jamie Lannister,it honestly pisses me off that a certified badass like Brienne would be interested in dweeby Jamie.
        And my two cents,Sansa is calculated and has learned to finally play the game and show us like many others have that to be powerful you must lose your innocence.That makes me happy because if there is a lesson to be learnt from Game of Thrones it’s that power corrupts and absolute power to whomever it will be handed to in the end(Jon?Dany?) will corrupt absolutely.
        In lieu of recent events,it’s probably the lesson we all need to be taught.

      • isabelle says:

        Tormund though is very honorable. When he said lat night that he knew Mance wasn’t making the right leadership decisions but still stood by him till the end, says a lot about him. He is honorable which is very important to her. He may have the manners of a goat but he is a good person. This is the dude helping to raise the children of a wilding (from Hardhome battle) he barely knew, he is down deep a good man.

      • lilacflowers says:

        Brienne likes men who will stand up for her. She loved Renly not because he was a refined gentleman but because he stood up for her when the other refined, so-called gentlemen were ridiculing her.

  29. Pmnichols says:

    U N B E L I E V A B L E.

  30. Noodle says:

    ‘They are loyal beasts..’
    ‘Not the hungry ones…’

    Boom… Sansa, you did good.
    Tormund lives!!! Sad for WunWun. Dragons yay.. Yara, you hot bitch!!
    Enjoyed this one.

  31. Carrie says:

    I’m not in the military and have never been in a war zone. However, I thought last night’s battle scene was incredibly realistic. For me, it really made a medieval battle come to life – the chaos, gore, and fear. In my opinion, last night’s scene was one of the best battle scenes on the screen (large or small). The only other battle scene that rivals it is the D-Day scene from the film, “Saving Private Ryan”. It made me really appreciate what soldiers have gone through…

    • TG says:

      Me too. I’d throw the battle scenes from Braveheart in there too, but I don’t think there’s every been anything on TV that showed, from a ground view perspective, how absolutely insane hand to hand combat is.

  32. iheartgossip says:

    I LOVE YOUR RECAPS!! Sometimes I think I know, then I get self-doubt. BUT? I know I can come here the morning after and get my mind straight! What an amazing episode!

  33. Eve says:

    My internet went down the whole morning. Missed all the fun on that Hiddleston thread.

    😢

  34. isabelle says:

    Lady Mormont giving Ramsey the stankiest of stink eyes was everything!

  35. Lizzy says:

    First: Can we please appreciate Little lady Lyanna coming to the parley!! What a badass.
    Also Sansa told Jon that NOONE can save her… Arya? 🙂

    LOved the music in this episode and I cant wait for the red witch (as Davos called her earlier) to get her comeuppence…the scene with Shireen’s Stag figurine picked by Davos was heartbreaking.
    Also the Yara and Dany scene was awesome.. I am just surprised how FAST are the greyjoys traveling lol…this season everyone ad supersonic jets it seems…esp. Littlefinger.

  36. AnotherDirtyMartini says:

    AGREE!! Kit is not a one note actor. He sold it. I could feel all the emotions..and I was a trembling mess, ready to have a panic attack. Good god I do get sucked into my fav shows.

    Excellent job KH & cast. I read another review that said the BoB was “too easy”. WHAT?! How many seasons have we endured Ramsay winning at everything? And we’ve had to endure his smirky face & disgusting antics. I’m forgetting his short name at the moment but kudos to the actor for making me hate the character!

  37. Camille says:

    It was such an awesome, epic episode. Quite likely the best thing I have seen on TV ever. Brilliant stuff.

  38. Andrea says:

    I was physically nauseous when Jon Sow was gasping for air. I also was sooo happy Ramsey was eaten by his own dogs. So fitting. I , like some of you, find Baelish/Little finger sexy and despite everything else, I hope he marries Sansa especially if she is pregnant. Yelch.

  39. Nikki says:

    LOVED this episode so much, especially Sansa responsible for getting necessary soldiers, Yora &Danaerus’s parlay and smiles, and Torvald NOT getting killed. Sad about the brave giant…

  40. Goodnight says:

    I was pretty meh about the episode. Very predictable in many places, thought the battle was basically Blackwater 2.0, I’m tired of conversations between women about other men and I’m just about done with the poor writing.

    I especially hated how Sansa kept the Vale knights from Jon – that was inexcusable. Even if she wasn’t 100% sure they were coming why didn’t she tell Jon that they were a possibility? It would have completely changed their tactics and probably resulted in greatly reduced fatalities.

    There is literally zero reason for Sansa to not tell Jon in-universe. None. Obviously in real life the writers want to show how LF has effected Sansa and how she’s keeping secrets and making power moves just like him. What’s puzzling is that they’re packaging that as empowerment rather than corruption. Yes, Sansa needs to learn the value of information and power moves, but she hid crucial information from her brother and could have prevented hundreds of deaths. That’s not a positive thing.

  41. AnotherDirtyMartini says:

    I’m still stressed about the battle! And I know the outcome. Wth is wrong with me? I think we grow so invested in certain characters & have grown to love them. During the frantic crazy battle scenes, I kept inventory…okay, Jon’s alive still ✔️, Tormund ✔️, Davos✔️ and then NO!!!! Wun-Wun. 😞 I shed tears over Wun-Wun. I had a terrible feeling he would die. :(. He can do a lot of damage, but he’s so a massive target. Poor Wun Wun; poor Rickon; poor Shaggy Dog.

    So,who thinks Davos will kill Melisandre or just chase her off?