Us Weekly: Brad Pitt caused damage to a plane, but Angelina’s still an icy bitch

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As we discussed yesterday, Us Weekly’s cover story this week is all about The Villainess Jolie’s “plot” to “destroy” Brad Pitt by… calmly filing for divorce and cooperating with an ongoing investigation into Brad’s conduct on a private plane. The first excerpt released yesterday did not include much new information. Thankfully, Us Weekly teased a bit more online throughout the day, plus LaineyGossip had the most interesting part from the print edition. Some highlights:

Old-school Mean Girl: Us Weekly says that in 2012, Angelina mean girl’d Stacy Keibler, who was then dating George Clooney. Brangelina and Clooney and Keibler shared a brief flight together from LA to Palm Springs and “Angelina refused to acknowledge that Stacy was even on the plane. Angelina went out of her way to ignore her, from takeoff to landing. She would not even look Stacy’s way. She was not having it!”

Jolie has a long history of being an icy bitch: “Angie can be cold,” the source said of Jolie. Her attitude towards her husband’s social circle was just one of the things that took a toll on their relationship after 12 years together. Jolie never meshed with Pitt’s A-list pals and was icy towards them throughout the years. “Angelina was not engaging with Brad’s friends or their wives … particularly in the last couple of years,” a third source told Us.

Living in separate wings: When they were in the same home – their Hollywood Hills compound – they would live separately. “Angelina basically had her own wing and he had his. They began living these separate lives.”

Brad and Angelina fought a lot this year: Brad allegedly ‘didn’t want to be alone’ and turned to friends while working on his latest movie Allied to discuss his problems. ‘He said he was just worn out and fed up with problems at home. He said they’ve had rocky moments before, but this is the roughest patch they’d ever been through.’ A source close to Angelina alleged that she wasn’t happy with Brad airing their dirty laundry, telling Us Weekly: ‘She cannot deal with anyone talking about their business.’

What went down on the plane? Per LaineyGossip: When Jolie and Pitt boarded the private VistaJet plane from Nice, France, en route to L.A. September 14, their marriage was already beyond repair. “Their arguments,” says the Pitt friend, “progressively became more frequent.” They had another blowout during the 14-hour flight. At some point, Pitt, who had been drinking, allegedly became enraged and began yelling at Jolie. “When Maddox intervened to protect Angelina,” says a Jolie source, “Brad got up in his face and screamed at him to mind his own business.” Another insider claims closed-circuit footage exists of Pitt getting “physical” and causing “damage to the plane itself.” (According to TMZ, when the plane stopped in International Falls, Minnesota, to refuel, Pitt disembarked and tried to drive off in a fuel truck.)

[From Us Weekly, The Daily Mail & Us Weekly]

So on one side you have a guy who screams bloody murder into his teenage son’s face and possibly caused physical damage to a private plane. On the other side you have a woman who might be a bit cold and bitchy to Brad’s friends’ rent-a-dates. TOTALLY EQUAL! Such plotting. Much destruction. Icy Bitch Realness.

E! News also has another pro-Brad story about how all he ever wanted was stability for their kids and “When she would travel, which was a lot, he would stay with them. Any time he wasn’t working, he was with the kids.” And…? Anytime HE was working, she was with the kids too. Guess who worked more during their marriage? Yep.

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  1. Livethelifeaquatic says:

    Drives away in a fuel truck – see ya!

    • Aussie girl says:

      Beep beep!!

    • katlaps says:

      Do drive off in a fuel tankm you have to be pretty drunk. Kids should never witness these things.
      What I do find odd, last Nov, they gave a joint interview, holding hands, being them, even their wedding and outings its been them vs the world, how do you go from “deep love” to bye bye?

      • Livethelifeaquatic says:

        I think it’s completely possible going from deeply in love to au revoir.

        Especially if he isn’t a present dad or a good dad. Life is too short to have to deal with a big baby

      • doofus says:

        “how do you go from “deep love” to bye bye?”

        there’s an old saying…there’s a thin line between love and hate. for some couples, that passion can turn 180 degrees from crazy about each other to driving the other crazy, not in a good way. (not trying to be snarky here, this is one break up that threw a LOT of people for a loop.)

        the other thing is that this break up really shows us celeb gossip fans that NO ONE knows what goes on behind closed doors. Fan or not, nobody had a clue about what was going on.

      • Esmom says:

        I’d also add that having kids can make or break a couple, too. And six is a large number — I would imagine that the stress involved would cool down the passion phase of their romance pretty quickly. Even with nannies and staff, the emotional energy required for kids is huge. And as they get older, the stakes are even higher, I think. As the saying goes “Bigger kids, bigger problems.”

        Side note: I thought the fuel truck story was confirmed to be BS? I can’t keep the details straight on this breakup! :)

      • Kitten says:

        I can answer this question: EASILY.

        I was with my boyfriend for two years and the last night when we broke up started off with us talking about a trip to California, making plans for the future etc. Two days and several unresolved arguments later, it was done.

        It happens.

        When your relationship is already hanging by a thread, it doesn’t take much to break it.

      • Who ARE These People? says:

        Latest on the fuel truck may be that he tried to drive away in it but didn’t succeed. Thank goodness.

      • Carmen says:

        I had been thinking, wouldn’t it be very irresponsible for the previous driver to have just gone off and left the keys in the ignition?

      • Esmom says:

        Yeah, I don’t know about the fuel truck thing. Not sure why I’m fixating on it but it’s bugging me that people act as if it’s the absolute truth when in reality we have no idea what really happened — with it or with much of anything, really. I think I’m going to have to make it a policy to assume just about everything “reported” on or speculated about is BS until we hear from Angelina and Brad themselves.

      • Kate says:

        re: “how do you go from deep love to bye bye” — Please remember, they are actors. Pretty good ones too.

      • SilverUnicorn says:

        @Kitten
        You’re absolutely right.
        I still remember Goop’s quote (I know Goop, ugh!) about her parents’ secret to a lasting marriage ‘we never wanted to divorce at the same time’ and it’s probably true. The boundary between staying and going is very thin sometimes and all people outside of the couple cannot fathom what’s going on most of the time.

      • Rebecca says:

        It was all an act. You could tell from their body language that they were having serious problems before they decided to get married. Maybe they both thought getting married would fix things.

        I agree. Icy bitch does not somehow equal physical abuse or even damaging property in the midst of a temper tantrum.

    • Anguishedcorn says:

      The only way that would have been better is if it had been a Zamboni… if they’d landed in International Falls a month or two later, it could have happened.

    • zan says:

      hahaha!!

    • PimmsCupInAPimpCup says:

      And I haven’t found out if it was a fuel truck sans the driver, or if he leapt into the shotgun seat and told the driver to haul it, or my personal choice, yanking the driver out of his seat like Jonathon Winters in a Stanley Kramer film and commandeering the fuel truck as he tucked tucked away into the distance.

  2. LuluPolly says:

    So, I just need to say that teengers can enrage you and make you behave in ways you normally wouldn’t and that you are ashamed of. This is something you truly cannot know unless you are raising one in your home, daily. No one really knows what happened or who did/said what. I hate to see him raked over the coals for this when it’s clearly a LOT of things that caused her to file for divorce.

    • Carla says:

      I disagree.

      • BritAfrica says:

        Thank you! I disagree too.

        Women spend far more time with children and we do not resort to violence when they misbehave. If we did, social services will not be able to cope!

        If it is true that “teenagers can enrage you and make you behave in ways you normally wouldn’t and that you are ashamed of”- you don’t ‘lunge’ to punch them, you don’t attack them. You get help. You do not resort to violence.

      • FingerBinger says:

        @BritAfrica Fyi women can abusive as well. I’m not saying this is the case with Jolie. However women not resorting to violence when kids misbehave is false.

      • BritAfrica says:

        @FingerBinger

        Read my post again. I never said women can’t be abusive. I said women generally do not resort to violence even though they spend more time with children. Which is true, if it wasn’t the case, social services will be overrun.

      • Samtha says:

        Me too. I have teenagers in the house. I’ve never gotten so mad that I’ve screamed in their faces. Nor has my husband. And my husband has never attacked me (verbally or otherwise) so that the children felt they needed to intervene.

        That is NOT normal behavior, and it’s concerning to me that so many people want to pretend it is.

      • Noname says:

        Most people on this site are assuming quite a few things about Brad Pitt, Angelina Jolie, even Maddox and the incident on the plane. We only know what we have been reading.

        That being said, yelling at a teenager does not make Brad Pitt abusive. What has bothered me about this about this from the start, other than how the filing was worded, is how sources say Angelina would never leave Brad Pitt for having a substance abuse problem.. as if that is not that big of an issue when raising kids. As an adult kid of an addict.. it’s a huge, freaking issue and Jolie is an idiot if she really thinks that. You cannot raise children with someone who has a substance abuse problem.. either they get help or you leave.

        Another problem I have is that the fights have been occurring between these two for years and it was previously described as them having a passionate relationship.. uh, what? That’s a red flag.. anyone who has spent years in therapy knows this.

        6 kids are involved here.. 6. This is becoming disturbing. If both parents were truly concerned about the welfare of the kids.. both would shut these sources down.

      • Artemis says:

        A lot of men and women are abusive to their kids for different reasons. In fact, men who are abusive have a high chance to become MORE abusive when a child comes into the relationship. Men who weren’t abusive before, can turn abusive when a child comes into the relationship.

        So many women abuse their children and leave scars but because women are still and will always be the primary caretaker of children, it will be unlikely that their authority on childrearing will be questioned when there is clearly something wrong. So many abuse cases (that resulted in death) in the UK show a pattern in abuse with many professionals unwilling to step in when the evidence is on the kids’ bodies. Family is still considered ‘private’. A lot of parents who are also middle-class will have the advantage of people’s opinion of their capability to be morally corrupt.

        Too many kids’ issues are ignored when there is a dysfunctional or abusive family situation and people need to open their eyes and mouth to combat this.

        Forums are full of people still affected by a narcissistic parent (emotional abuse) yet never went into the system, therapy or any other professional help because they didn’t go look for it and they weren’t offered. So many invisible kids who grew up to be damaged human beings.

        Personally, I don’t want kids because the burden on women is constant and high and most men can’t seem to hack it and unravel at some point or are considerably less involved even when they are ‘great’ fathers. As long as ‘great fathers’ are still doing even 10% less than ‘great mothers’, I don’t see the point of having a child with a man.

      • sanders says:

        Noname, I’ve had the same thoughts as you about the kids and this marital dynamic. It’s very difficult to have healthy relationships between adults when addiction is involved. Parenting while having addictions issues most often results in abuse. It’s hard enough to parent teenagers when sober. Teens are living out a very complex stage of their lives. I cannot imagine what a hot mess I would be if I tried to resolve tension/discipline/comfort etc., my teens while I was drunk.
        And 100% yes to the glorification of passionate marriages. I too view it as a huge red flag.

        Artemis, I share your views on men and parenting. My husband is pretty good and is involved almost as much as I am. I have only one other friend whose husband is similar. He is purposeful and conscious about this and has made professional choices that allow him more time with his daughters. The majority of my female friends are stuck doing mostly all the work of parenting. I don’t know how they do it. It’s one thing to be a single mom but I would be so resentful if I had a husband and still had to carry most of the parenting work. Some of these guys can’t even cook or do household chores so essentially these women have an additional child to take care of. These women experience high levels of stress and are often over-extended and will sometimes co-opt me into helping with their parenting chores while their husbands are enjoying leisure time. So, here I am now still paying a price for sexism even though I carefully and consciously chose a husband who is more of a full partner.

      • Lady D says:

        @noname, “6 kids are involved here.. 6. This is becoming disturbing. If both parents were truly concerned about the welfare of the kids.. both would shut these sources down. ”
        I don’t think they have a lot of control over what ITW, Us Weekly, Radar Online, etc. are printing about them. This is gossip manna for the sleaze tabloids.

      • it was julie says:

        BritAfrica, your facts are wrong, children are most likely to be abused by their mother. Mitigating factors are age, money and relationship with a non related male. Children are most likely to be killed by a male, without biological relation to the victim.

        My best friend is a Director of Forensic Pathology who was often a keynote speaker on child homicide. The statistics on a mother being #1 abuser shocked me. Males just inflict more damage when they abuse.

      • Nicole says:

        BritAfrica, I do not know how you can make such a generalized statement that most women do not resort to violence. You really need to do further research. I’m gonna have to say as someone whom has generations maternal familial abuse experience, and having read multiple research sources and data, women actually tend to be more abusive to children. And that is not limited to them being the actual abuser, but as someone whom lets it happen. How many stories have you seen in the news, where a mother allows her child to be abused at the hands of a new boyfriend or husband? Hell, one 6 year old just died yesterday, because his mom let him be systematically abused by her deranged boyfriend. Sometimes, just standing by and allowing it to happen, is just as abusive as doing it yourself. Some of the stories I can tell you that my mom did to me, would probably shock you. That doesn’t mean she is that same person now. But the level of depravity a women can subject on a child can be obscene. And they are more common than you can even imagine. I think you should look into further statistics about the subject. It helped me to understand it more, and to also break a cycle of abuse that happened for 2 generations before me.

      • Ennie says:

        My father in the first half of the XX century was one of many children. His mom was ver abusive, verbally and physically. They’d run out of the house while their sisters fed them scraps because they were in fear of their mom. Sadly, some of them learned that way of rearing children, and it was not an option to get therapy back in the day. It breeds a whole generation of abuse.

      • virginfangirl says:

        I have seen some verbally abusive and physically violent teenagers that most parents don’t ever experience. No one knows how they would truly react when faced with that.

    • Soror Bro says:

      Don’t think you’ll get much support around here for rage driven, shame inducing, behaviour.

    • Heat says:

      I have two teens of my own in the house. Yes, teenagers can be major pains in the butt…however:
      I have never lost control of myself, as an adult person, and become physical with them, nor get up in their faces in anger. That has nothing to do with their behavior and everything to do with mine. It is my job, as their parent, to teach them how to handle situations. That means leading by example.
      Excusing verbal and physical abuse by calling out typical teenaged behavior sounds an awful lot like victim-shaming to me.
      It’s doubtless that the Jolie-Pitts were on the rocks, but this must have been the final straw. If my husband ever pulled that with any of our kids, he’d be out the door.

      • tback says:

        Preach Heat! You nailed it…as a parent you are the adult & you model acceptable behavior. I’m a mother but also a high school teacher and I interact with teenagers all day every day and the same rule applies….I’m the adult so I model appropriate behavior for the students. I can’t expect teenagers to behave properly if i can’t control myself. You’re an ADULT Brad. Get your sh-t together.

    • Cookiejar says:

      That’s BS. A person in control never stoops so low.

    • als says:

      Why do you think he is ‘raked over the coals’? This article and other articles speak in his favor. The media and the majority of people are offering him the same understanding you do.

      It is true that some people here on CB are asking questions and processing the logic of the headlines and use reason when taking in all this info, but we are few.
      But the overwhelming majority is compassionate toward Brad Pitt. So, where is this defensiveness coming from?

    • minx says:

      I’ve had two teenagers, a boy and girl, and I disagree.

    • teacakes says:

      ‘MAKE’ a 50something man go ‘nose to nose’ with his son who hasn’t even reached full height?

      It’s deeply unfair that the kids are being commented on in this manner, even though I’m sure you don’t intend to suggest that Maddox of all people bore any responsibility for Brad’s behaviour on that plane. Can we just not?

    • Seraphina says:

      Lulupolly, my kids are almost there and I can see where they may bring you to the brink. There are times where I have told them to go to their rooms so I can cool down.

      We can all speculate and say think it’s all black and white but there is a lot of gray and only those two can speak that.

      Thant said I can’t weigh in in this because I thought Amber was to blame with Depp but then there was no denying the truth.

      The good thing is that if Brad and AJ were becoming toxic best to get out and that is what she did.

      • virginfangirl says:

        Agree. I work in a school and some kids behave in ways that most parents can’t even imagine. Yes, keeping cool is always best, as kids only feed off your rage. But that being said, people have their breaking point. Let’s not assume just because we raised teens that seemed quite awful at times that we know how abusive a teen can be to a parent.

    • Lucy says:

      In a way I do agree with you , because I was that teen you are talking about… I made my mothers life hell from the age of 14-16 when she finally kicked me out the house, and there were moments where she did react back, in ways that are completely out of character for her, and she has apologiesed profousley for, as have I … However, I was an extreme case and there in no evidence Maddox did anything more than step in in an attempt to protect his mum so it’s wrong to put any kind of blame on him …

    • G says:

      Um….no.
      I am 22. I was a teenager pretty recently, meaning in this very decade. I was a pretty awful teenager. My parents and I fought constantly.
      My parents NEVER hit me. My parents NEVER got physical with me. My parents did yell, did ground me, and did get heated with me. But never physical.
      The fact that you are trying to justify that skeeves me out. I would not want to be your teenager if you think that’s okay or can be justified. YOU are the adult. Not your teenager…YOU. If you think you can blow off that behavior as “something I would not normally do” and chalk it up to that, you have a problem, not your child.

      • Rain says:

        I don’t believe it was the OP’s intention to justify abuse in any form. I think she was just acknowledging that the stress of highly charged emotion is understandable to her.

    • Tiny Martian says:

      I have a 16 year old daughter. I’ve never yelled at her once. What would be the point? How would that teach her how to be a better adult? How would it foster a positive relationship with her? Sure, she can be frustrating, but I can’t even begin to imagine striking her.

    • Esmom says:

      Wow, everyone is piling on here when I don’t think LuluPolly is trying to justify any sort of abuse.

      I’ll say that my teens have gotten me angry and highly emotional. I have yelled. Every single parent I know has yelled at times, are we all rage monsters? I don’t think so. I’ll also add that I have felt ashamed, not because I abused my teens but because they behaved or responded in a way that’s had me question my parenting skills. I have found parenting to be the hardest and most stressful thing I’ve ever undertaken. That’s not to say it hasn’t also been my greatest joy.

      • Minxx says:

        Esmom, of course you’re not. I’m really amused reading all those self-righteous comments from parents who “never this” and “never that”. I don’t believe one word. Everyone loses temper once in a while. Not pretty but that’s reality. The important thing is to apologize and talk about what happened and why.

      • Kitten says:

        Jesus…yeah I agree with you, Esmom. I’m not a parent but…yikes the comments here are kind of crazy.

      • paranormalgirl says:

        I’m a psychiatrist and damned strait I’ve yelled at my kids. It’s not often, and it takes a lot to get me to raise my voice, but I’ve done it and will do it again. My spawn are 14 and 16. I’ve never gone “nose to nose” with them, I’ve never “gotten in their face.” I’ve never hit them or pushed them or raised a hand to them, but I absolutely have raised my voice and yelled at them.

      • JESS82 says:

        yes esmom! a parent saying they “never yell” is either infinitely patient or lying. it happens. admitting to the low moments of parenting is is not the same as justifying child abuse.

      • Nicole says:

        110% what you just said, YES. Yelling, and losing your cool for a moment in time, does not equate to abuse. My demon (and I say this in the most profoundly loving way. He inherited my stubborn nature) is 11, and is already testing my patience. Have there been times I have yelled at him? Yes, Matter of fact, I yelled at him 5 days ago, when I heard him tell his Noni that “he hoped she died” when he thought I was out of earshot. I yelled, he cried. Does that make me an abuser? No. Does that make me an unfit parent? No. It makes me fallible human.

      • Jellybean says:

        Good grief! people commenting who admit to being fallible. I remember the day my dad walked through the door just as my sister told our mum to f**k off. She hid in the bathroom and locked the door. He kicked the door in and told her never to do that again. He didn’t raise his voice and he didn’t touch her. She was utterly terrified and never swore at mum again. Dad did lose his temper to the extent that he had to replace the lock, but he kept a level of control and she learned a lesson. I don’t have a problem with what he did, she really was a nightmare to live with.

      • Soror Bro says:

        @Esmom: What if a man said:

        “So, I just need to say that women can enrage you and make you behave in ways you normally wouldn’t and that you are ashamed of. This is something you truly cannot know unless you are living with one in your home, daily. No one really knows what happened or who did/said what. I hate to see him raked over the coals for this when it’s clearly a LOT of things that caused her to file for divorce.”

      • Heat says:

        Yeah…I can’t say that I’ve never yelled or gotten pissed off.

        To me, that’s a far cry from getting in their faces/getting physical with them.

    • idontknowyouyoudontknowme says:

      I would add that at this point we are only hearing “sources” leaking out this info, we have no proof of anything yet, its basically a he said-she said situation so far.
      In regards to the fine line between discipline and abuse… well, its a matter of personal values/parenting approaches. I do remember being spanked/slapped as a kid however I didnt really consider it to be abuse. Since it happened 2x in my entire life, it was definitely a lesson for me to not forget how wrong I acted in the situation. These episodes did not make me emotionally crippled or feel hurt in any way.
      I know some parents cant even imagine raising their voice, and already consider spanking a form of abuse, however tbh I have never witnessed any family where stronger words/yelling NEVER occurs..I think almost every parent in my country could be arrested for abuse if that’s the case! Of course in every country, generation etc the perception might be different, however at this point in the story I do not agree to label anyone as a malicious child abuser especially when for 10+ years we were all fawning over them as the perfect couple and Mom/Dad to their child army. I feel very sorry for the kids in this, I hope they will be able to coparent, even if their romantic relationship is over.

    • cindy says:

      I’m not sure. I have a challenging head strong teenager and she has never been hit or close to it. It just goes without saying. *sighs* This whole brangelena split has reached a level of sad I hate to read about anymore. I may need to be skipping these posts.

      • virginfangirl says:

        How about a kid that takes your drink and spills it over your head? Calls you filthy names? I am not saying Maddox did this, but there are situations that are worse than others, situations that we’ve never personally experienced just because we have a teen of our own.

    • ravensdaughter says:

      To begin, I do feel sorry for Brad-he was way over his head with Angelina overall and the kids probably didn’t help-and I hope they work out a custody arrangement that the kids feel comfortable with.
      I also hope he goes to rehab. I am surprised he hasn’t gone already. That should be part of the deal.
      As for teenagers engaging/enraging you, I am a single mom with two teenage sons, 15 and 16. My ex and I co-parent. I do not drink because I had some serious issues in the past. The last year with my ex-husband we drank and fought viciously. Even when I was separated I drank pretty heavily when the kids weren’t with me ( I never drank around them) and I realized how irresponsible-even dangerous that was. Drinking totally screws with your impulse control and I didn’t want to lose my s–t around my kids, who were 6 and 7 years old at the time of the divorce.
      It was absolutely the right decision for me. No screaming matches in this house. Perhaps Brad will come to the same conclusion.
      I think Angelina is a fierce woman. I say that as a complement, although there are obvious downsides, as Brad found out. If she eventually repartners-it must be the Man Moratorium now-it needs to be with her intellectual equal. She is obviously very bright and very determined and she needs a man who can handle that.

    • dana says:

      completely agree. Its not fair for their children and if the mother or father cared about them like they say, they’d not divorce so nastily in front of the children.

    • Nicole says:

      I agree that it is not normal, but I do not know how it feels to be a 15 year old male and wanting to protect mom. I know that at 15, a hormonal young man probably thinks he can take his dad and will assert themselves if they feel mom is in danger. I inserted myself when I thought my drunk as hell dad was going to possibly strike my mom. You get scared and it is fight or flight.

    • Rosalind says:

      Disagree also. I have raised 2 teenage girls and while they could be extremely frustrating I never have screamed in their faces, busted up the inside of anything, or tried to drive off in a fuel truck.

    • siri says:

      I agree with you. There’s too much rumor, so little facts, but most people already jump to conclusions. As for raising teenagers, raising your voice at times doesn’t equal abuse.

    • Louise177 says:

      @Lulupolly: I don’t understand why people keep blaming Maddox. All of the reports even from Brad’s side said that he and Angelina were arguing and Maddox stepped in. I mean if Brad was drunk and causing damage to the plane can you blame him? I just can’t justify Brad’s behavior as being caused by Maddox.

      • Jellybean says:

        No guarantees it is right, but I read that Brad and Angelina were arguing, when Maddox got involved. Brad told him to sit down and Maddox told him to ‘shut the f**k up’, which is when Brad lost his temper with him and it seems took it out on the plane. Of course damaging the plane could mean could mean cracking a cup holder, it doesn’t have to involve anything major. That is the problem with all these reports, a tiny grain of truth can be blown up out of all proportion. That is why only the official investigation matters.

  3. MrsBPitt says:

    Has Stacy Keibler ever confirmed this story? I’m not buying it!

    I don’t believe that AJ is an icy bitch…but, my first , jerk, of a husband, would freeze me out totally when he felt I had said/done something wrong. It really is a form of abuse…sorry, brought back some terrible memories…

    • Christianna says:

      How is Stacy doing these days?

    • Looty says:

      Obviously I don’t know her private manner, but in interviews she seems very serene and focused. If someone is insecure they might read that as cold, but it’s not Angelina’s fault if she isn’t a chirpy sugar-slopper.

    • Lisa says:

      Point 1 – Ever seen SK’s wrestling videos – they’re like naked heinz bean wrestling. One doesn’t want to judge but AJ would probably prefer to spend her free time with Marianne Pearl. SK is someone who was never going to be a permanent fixture anyway (why do you think George married a Human Rights lawyer?)

      Plus there were always rumors her and George didn’t get on – so now she has to be nice to the girlfriend of that brief acquaintance of her current partner? George and Brad aren’t besties either but we aren’t angry at them.

      Point 2 – You may not get physical with your teenagers or let them provoke you but you aren’t high or drunk either.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Amal Clooney is not a human rights lawyer. She is a lawyer working in international law and her pre-George client list is nothing to be proud of. His PR is working hard to convince everyone otherwise.

      • Lindsay says:

        Nope. Sorry. You may not love the people on her client list but they have right to competent legal counsel. It’s easy to defend the innocent and beloved. It is an adversarial system that makes justice work. Holding the prosecution accountable to their responsibility and burden. Without someone defending the villains the system doesn’t work. Plus, you don’t get placed on the legal team of a high profile international case because they picked your name out of the phone book.

      • notasugarhere says:

        I’m not saying they do not have the right to a lawyer. I am pointing out that she isn’t an international humanitarian fighting for the little guy, as George’s PR machine would have us believe. Her client list is full of people with whom I’d be ashamed to be associated.

      • Lindsay says:

        You are shaming her because you don’t like some of her clients. Defending someone and ensuring their rights does not mean you agree with them, condone their actions, or even believe they are innocent. She IS a human rights attorney. Even if George’s people oversold her, human rights is her focus and she is very accomplished.

        She gave up a promising career in entertainment law and left a lucrative, high power job in a large prominent practice defending large companies and wealthy high profile people to focus on international law and human rights which is more complex, dangerous, and profitable.

        Not all her cases have been her representing the little guy but she has represented them such as journalists, the wrongly imprisoned, ISIS victims, and prosecuting genocide as well as advising the UN.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Yes, I am shaming her for her client list. Her turnaround to a slightly better list came after Clooney and the PR push. That tells me what I need to know about the type of person she is. Being a court appointed public defender where you have no choice of your clients is one thing. Choosing the type of clients she chose for years is something else entirely.

      • Trashaddict says:

        Fill me in, just who did this woman pick to represent?

      • Robin says:

        Oh, please. Amal was an obscure junior barrister before Clooney married her. Barristers can choose their clients and she’s chosen some doozies. She wouldn’t have anywhere NEAR the publicity she has if it weren’t for who her husband is.

    • Granger says:

      I would buy that she can probably be aloof, but that’s not surprising given how famous she is. It can’t be easy to warm to people immediately, especially when you’re not sure what their motives are. I don’t believe she’s an icy bitch, though.

      • Samtha says:

        This hits the nail on the head. When you have her level of fame, you don’t know people’s intentions. I actually like SK, but her relationship with George didn’t really make it seem like she’s not fame hungry and willing to do whatever it takes. I can see why Angelina would distance herself.

      • NotSoSocialButterfly says:

        I don’t know that it has to do with being famous, it’s probably just a personality trait. For myself, I would often rather keep to myself than to interact superficially with someone for social convention, because it feels like I am not being myself/representing a false self, and honestly is too much/not worth the effort. I get it completely.

      • Antigone says:

        I have no idea whether or not Angelina was “icy” to Stacy Keibler or anyone else (and no one else here knows either) but I will say in a general sense that people deserve respect and to be interacted with in a polite manner. It bothers me that some posters feel that because SK was a wrestler, was just one of George’s many GF’s etc it would somehow make it okay for Angelina (or anyone) to ignore her. Again, I have no idea if that happened or not-just saying that not interacting with someone/being cold to someone because you feel superior to them intellectually or otherwise is just plain rude and mean.

      • Samtha says:

        Antigone, for my part, I didn’t mean it would be okay to ignore her because she was “inferior” in some way. What I meant is that if SK was in a relationship with Clooney for fame and a career boost (as many people assume), Angelina might have distanced herself because she couldn’t be sure if SK was the type of person to use her for fame too. If that makes sense.

        As I said, I actually like SK a lot.

    • Bettyrose says:

      A *flight* from LA to Palm Springs?! That takes, what, 10 minutes? They literally didn’t have time for a conversation.

    • Kitten says:

      My ex did that to me, MrsBPitt–the grudges and ghosting for weeks on end. It’s a power play, an attempt to make you feel hurt because they feel hurt. It’s a way to regain control of the situation.

      And it is 100% emotional abuse. For someone like me (a compulsive planner who always needs to know what’s going on), it’s a special kind of torture to have to spend a week wondering about the status of my relationship, wondering where we stand, wondering what he’s thinking, wondering when I’ll have a chance to express my feelings. It is SO detrimental to a relationship. Really just toxic. I told my ex that this was the last time I would let him do that to me and I’m so happy I stuck to my guns because no relationship is sustainable if you can’t get through conflict in a timely manner, if you can’t work through the bad times in a healthy, productive way.

      • Nancy says:

        Kitten sorry this one didn’t work out. You did have two years together and I’m sure you took a lot out of that time. You have such a strong positive spirit, you will have full life with someone else or on your own. We don’t need men to complete us……you are a GODDESS and I know good things are in your future. You’re just too nice and smart of a lady not to have something special right around the corner. I’m rooting for you!

      • nicegirl says:

        Kitten, my man is like this, and I hate it.

      • Kitten says:

        @Nancy-You are so sweet ♥ Seriously, thank you so much for the kind words. Been feeling like ass lately about everything (up and down y’ know?) so your words are especially comforting.

        @Nicegirl- Does he have issues with emotional intimacy? Mine did and that’s why he used conflict to create distance, instead of making us stronger. I hope you can help him break that habit because I could never get mine to stop and it was a plague on our relationship. Good luck, sweetie ♥

      • SilverUnicorn says:

        My ex fiance was like that too. I spent nearly a decade in the relationship and then gave up, because I had lost all self-respect and self-confidence. It felt like being erased.

      • Nicole says:

        Kitten-
        I wish my best friend was as strong as you. I’m so glad you stuck to your guns because you kick ass and deserve the very best. You are a prize, I can simply tell from your posts!

  4. roses says:

    LOL at the US Weekly source, ‘She cannot deal with anyone talking about their business.’ Well I guess she is fit to be tied now because everybody is in their business now. Along with Brad allegedly ‘didn’t want to be alone’. Well heck go home you have 6 kids to keep you company:) I’m starting to think after reading all of this that none of theses sources know what the heck went on to cause this implosion.

    • Lisa says:

      Everybody talks about them! But I can see her being annoyed at Brad telling tales out of school, especially if it was to her dad.

    • Kitten says:

      She’s a private person who doesn’t want her husband blabbing about their relationship to anyone and everyone. Gee, what a monster.

      • Lady D says:

        Truthfully, blabbing, bragging or bitching to your friends about our relationship is a deal breaker for me. I just couldn’t consider him mature.

      • Kitten says:

        Me too. HUGE deal-breaker.

      • Rosalind says:

        I agree, I think it’s embarrassing and immature. It allows them to paint themselves as the victim without you being able to defend yourself. I found my boyfriend (now ex) was doing this behind my back, to his family and our neighbor. I understand the need to vent but not the way he did it. He painted me as this horrible person who treated him terribly (not at all true, actually the other way around.). Then when we’d see his family or I’d see the neighbor I’d wander why they acted so strangely when previously they were so friendly. When I found out what was going on it was a slap in the face, especially since he was so emotionally abusive and none of what he was saying was true. They found that out later because the truth usually comes out in the end, but it’s just a crappy way to treat someone.

  5. Northern_Girl20 says:

    I can do is *eyeroll* about Brad “having” to stay with the kids. Biggest pet peeve is father’s “babysitting” their own kids ugh!

    • Goats on the Roof says:

      YES! My best friend says she’ll get her husband to babysit every time we make plans to go out and I just wanna say, ‘You mean parent?’

      • Scootypuffjr says:

        Goats, thank you!! If your partner can’t be trusted to take an equal hand in parenting, why in the world would you make children with them in the first place?

    • Lisa says:

      Poor baby

    • Lindsay says:

      The word “having” is not in there . He has never been accused of viewing his kids as a burden or obligation. They had tons of help. He didn’t have to be there, he wanted to.

      • Carmen says:

        On his own terms. For the past year he’s been gallivanting all over Europe solo concentrating on his own pleasures and acting as if he didn’t have a wife and kids. I think he figured he could act like that indefinitely and whenever he got tired of running around and came back home, she would always be there waiting for him, no matter how long he stayed away. I’m surprised she put up with it as long as she did.

      • Trashaddict says:

        Hmm, gallivanting all over Europe. Wasn’t he making movies? 6 kids living a high profile lifestyle and if you want to provide for them longterm, you do have to do some work- I realize they have a lot of money but they also must have big expenses.

    • susiecue says:

      TOTALLY agree. Um it’s your kid too!!!

    • Rosalind says:

      So true. When I was married and my kids were little my husband used to say he was babysitting when he was with the kids so I could go to work. It used to drive me crazy. How can you babysit your own kids?

  6. Livethelifeaquatic says:

    As an adult you are responsible for your own actions. The end.

  7. Christianna says:

    Oh, Brad. Just stop. You’re never going to win. Go home, you’re drunk.

  8. SM says:

    I would believe that she is icy and I for one – I have no problem with that. Everyone’s different. She does come off like someone who thinks that she is above all the shallow Hollywood life and it’s ok, because I also have no patients for women who over-stress their looks, the only thing they read is trash magazines (I read only this blog for my dose of gossip) and feel content while gossiping about the their friends behind their backs especially expressing glee over someone else’s failings and are not interested in anything about the real world around them, such as politics. And when I know I have nothing to talk about with women I meat in social circles, I usually do not bother to pretend like I am interested in chatting about nothing with them. I do not think that makes me a bad person, it makes me honest, while it may come off as icy. AND it does not come close to actually hurting your own family member.

    • Louisa says:

      SM, I totally agree. I have been called “cold” and “stuck up” many times over the years and I am totally at ease with that now (used to hurt me). I don’t believe that I am, but put me in a group of people I have nothing in common with, or I find superficial then I do clam up and look for the closest exit. But put me with my friends, family or warm genuine people looking for a good conversation, and I’m your best and most loyal friend. I think she is the same and I totally understand it.

    • Tanya says:

      I’m pretty icy. My parents were abusive and I never learned as a child how to interact normally with people. Plus not being able to trust your own parents can make you very guarded. I’ve worked on it in therapy, and I’m getting better, but I’m never going to be the life of the party.

      • Rosalind says:

        I’m also considered “icy” by some people, especially when I’m meeting someone for the first time. Also raised by a narcissistic, abusive, emotionally distant parent. Something I still deal with all these years later. Not everyone is outgoing and that’s ok.

    • Luca76 says:

      I’m actually a chatty person, I’m pretty social but I don’t really care or judge people that aren’t like me. I also think if I was in Hollywood I would probably be a lot more standoffish because they don’t seem like the deepest, nicest, most genuine people even the celebrities everyone gushes over how nice they are. And everyone goes on about how she doesn’t have friends I think it’s more she doesn’t have a lot of Hollywood friends and socializes more with people in humanitarian, political world.

    • DiamondGirl says:

      One does not have to be best friends with everyone but it’s common courtesy and good manners to share greetings and small talk when you meet.

  9. iliketorun says:

    I like where you are going with this. I can’t stand that women are held to totally different standard than men. The more he gets his surrogates to verbal diarrhea, the more he looks like the asshole all indicators point to. I really don’t have a vested interest in their relationship but with the conversation about misogyny coming forward in the face of the first presidential debate, it strikes a damn chord.
    Just a quick note, I have three teenagers, two of them boys, and teens are not usually confrontational in that way unless they perceive a threat. Arguing is part in parcel, alcohol and aggressive confrontation are not. It takes two to mess up a relationship that doesn’t mean she did anything wrong except maybe make the wrong choice of life partner and enabled his behaviour by arguing and staying “for the kids”. Many are guilty of this, men and women. Sad

  10. Jenni says:

    Team nobody. They deserve each other and that’s not a compliment.

    • Goats on the Roof says:

      This is where I am unless something really earthquaking is revealed and confirmed to be true. I’ve mainly avoided commenting on these stories because there are six kids involved, but I’m not getting a good impression on either Angie or Brad right now.

      • Lahdidahbaby says:

        That’s where I am too, Goats. It’s a huge relief to hear somebody else say it. I feel awful for the kids, who never asked to be thrown into the public eye this way, or to be the objects of a fierce public custody struggle.

      • Amadea says:

        I said that yesterday, but what if that was the only option for Angelina after the plane incident? If she knew the story could be leaked, and she didn’t say anything before that, can you imagine those headlines: “Brad and Angelina drug and alcohol trip with six kids” , “Crazy drug den above the Atlantic”, etc. Do you know who would be blamed first? I think we all know the answer to this. She stepped up, preampted the situation, and avoided, what in worst scenario would be: their kids in temporary foster care.

      • Lindsay says:

        Stop saying she avoided her kids being placed in temporary foster care. It is not true. That is not how CPS works. No one is charging him with a crime. He voluntarily took a drugs test.

      • Esmom says:

        Lindsay, Agreed. I mentioned this in another thread but only 5% of kids involved in CPS investigations are ever taken from their homes. In a million years I don’t think there was a chance Angelina would lose them based on this single incident. It’s just another example of something that’s being thrown out as factual when in reality we have no idea.

      • C'est la Vie says:

        ITA and the drug test Pitt voluntarily took was on Sep. 17. He wasn’t charged with drug use, so he obviously hasn’t used drugs for quite a while, if at all. And the manager of the airport at Intl. Falls said no incident was reported either. Including the fuel truck or anything else. Period. The Sheriff said so as well.

        So it’s just many allegations unproven as of yet, and DCFS is going to be looking at both of them as parents. I guess the FBI has taken a pass on this. DCFS would be the best agency to sort this out. And the court system.

      • notasugarhere says:

        An incident could have happened and not been formally reported. If there is film, and if it is ever released, we’d seen for ourselves what did or didn’t happen.

    • wha-huh says:

      @ Jenni: Yup.

      @Amadea: this nonsense about the kids being taken away needs to stop. Every one of these posts has had someone bringing out that canard, and every time someone who actually works in the system has said that the chances of that happening range from zero to less than zero. It’s not her fault the kids have become a part of this – I suspect TMZ found that info on their own, without help – but to say she had to do this to avoid losing the kids is absurd.

    • dana says:

      Its exactly why my biggest issue is filing for Full Custody. Its not over a fight on a plane. That fight between two parents is not worthy of losing custody of your kids so this is about how nasty can AB be towards one another. Its sad and gross. Jamie Lee Curtis said it best on The View, when her parents divorced they hated each other and it played out all over the press and it was the worst experience as a kid in her life. Why a mom and dad like AB would decide to be this cruel in public over their marriage ending when they have just seemingly grown apart… only hurts their 6 kids.

      • The Other Katherine says:

        If Brad does actually have a substance abuse problem that is getting worse, one reason to request full custody would be to exert leverage to get him to go to rehab (and perhaps agree to ongoing drug testing of some sort, AA meetings, etc.) as a condition of agreeing to joint custody, or to set up some type of sobriety testing as a condition of visitation. What is requested in the initial filing isn’t necessarily the full expected outcome. It’s also very difficult with joint physical custody (rather than one parent having full physical custody and the other parent having an agreed visitation schedule, which can include the kids staying overnight with the non-custodial parent) to make decisions about where the kids will live and how to ship them back and forth, when both parents have careers that take them to different places. It’s very doubtful a CA court wouldn’t grant joint custody if Brad fights for it, but there are certainly good reasons why AJ might make a play for sole physical custody other than simply being mean to Brad.

    • holly hobby says:

      Yup. I’m not siding with anyone but the kids, until I see a court document. Usually testimony is give under oath and for the record. I’ll believe it then.

      I did read Brad submitted to a drug test for the CPS investigation. So we’ll know if he’s a strung out addict like the press has been bandying about?

    • Kate says:

      I’m with you on this one.

  11. Ramy says:

    I know angie doesn’t care about what people think of her. But I think this time she needs to speak and say it all and defence herself. Cuz Brad’s team are playing dirty .shame on him

  12. QueenEllisabet says:

    I think they are both awful

  13. HH says:

    Her being icy towards his friends actually adds context to the Angie not liking Amal storyline. However, instead of making it I to a typical girl fight, it was just Angie getting frustrated and exasperated with her marriage and husband.

  14. Adorable says:

    If Angelina,is this “media manipulator”as “They”say..Wouldn’t there be a string of slightly positive coverage of her during this time…Crazy how Angelina basically gave a “Mature”comment as to why she filed for divorce..yet you would swear she’s the one who was having a “melt-down”on that plane…

    • Sansa says:

      Where did the initial leaks sources come from when this story broke, with sources claiming an affair with his co-star, Russian hookers, hard drugs, and anger issues? Was that supposed to be coming from Brad. Angelina has to do what she feels necessary to be safe and protected with her family but it’s difficult for me to be 100 percent Angelina here, sorry. Think they both are equally at fault and have serious issues.

      • LittleTeaPot says:

        I agree with you. They both had a hand in what this relationship has spiraled into. They need to work this out privately, because…kids.

      • Colette says:

        There have been rumors about him banging co stars,escorts,production assistants,nannies for years.Are you saying she is responsible for all those tabloid rumors too?Is he responsible for the rumors about her been a drug addict,having Hepatitis,being an unfit mother,cheater,etc over the years as well? None of this stuff is new.There have been tabloid rumors of him being drunk before.
        The only thing that’s new is him having a confrontation with Maddox and her filing for divorce.Everything else has already been in the tabloids.

  15. teacakes says:

    I love US Weekly. And I love that we’re actually being presented with a story where side-eyeing your husband’s friend’s SO is totally the same thing as laying hands on your teenage son and causing damage to a plane.

    • Embee says:

      Right? This is an excellent example of the false equivalents prevalent when comparing the behaviors of men and women. <>

    • lucy2 says:

      Excellent point. One party gets drunk, abusive in some form, damages property and tries to drive off in an airport fuel truck (can you imagine what would have happened had he been a regular guy, not BP???), and that’s equal to the other party snubbing someone on a short flight.

  16. TeamAwesome says:

    Much of the past few years for everyone in the family has been, to me, full of stress. Health issues, constant travel, working together, having a house full of kids that need varying degrees of your attention day and night. I don’t care how much money they have, those are all huge stressors. I wonder if they have been in therapy of any kind, separate or joint. I mean, drunken bouts of screaming says no, probably, but these are not things many people can survive without some help.

    • roses says:

      well People mag mentioned in one the articles that he was in counseling but who knows if its the truth with all these so-called sources.

  17. Adorable says:

    Lol..What did Stacy say for Angelina to supposedly “ignore”her?lol Angelina is basically the famous one of the two,in that why should she be all chatty to someone she barely knows???..

    • KB says:

      Pretty sure she said it never happened

    • Sarah says:

      Because that’s what decent human beings do. They don’t measure someone else’s success as a measure of their worth and then decide if they are worthy enough to be polite to. That’s being a dick.

  18. Lucretia says:

    Well, well, well. Guess what? The patriarchy is alive, well, and PISSED. How dare we come this close to a woman president? How dare AJ stand up to an all American good and golden boy and imply he’s less than that?

    He’s shouting and abusive. She’s cold and calculating. Despite the facts that speak to his poor behavior, it’s clearly her fault and he’s not responsible for his own actions/words. US Weekly, or a replay of Monday night’s debate?

    Can’t we see the pattern? I don’t think it’s a coincidence. Time to double down on sisterhood.

    • Belle Epoch says:

      Interesting angle – you definitely have a point.

      My husband once got angry and threatened to pop a balloon in my daughter’s face. I went ballistic, furious, irate, Mama Bear and insisted he get therapy IMMEDIATELY. He was incredibly hostile and threatening to a three year old – and I was pregnant! What was he capable of? So I am Team Angie if indeed Brad got drunk and unruly in an enclosed space where nobody could leave, yelled at AJ, and then physically shoved a teenager who was clearly distressed. I respect her for protecting the kids and kicking his ass to the curb. Maybe he’ll sober up; maybe he’ll just whine and complain about HER.

    • Embee says:

      Amen! Said similar just above. This is nonsense writ large.

      I also find i hilarious/horrifying that a woman’c iciness (how dare she not nurture!) is one of the worst things you can say about her. Even being a hysterical mess is preferred because it’s soft. An icy woman is a woman may very well be a woman who is in an impossible situation without ready recourse. See also Amber Heard.

    • Carmen says:

      When has he ever been held responsible for his actions? Everything that happens to him is someone else’s fault. He never takes any responsibility for any of his problems. It must be wonderful being Brad Pitt and getting away scot free with everything.

    • merlot says:

      This article from the Irish Times is the only sane opinion I have read from sources outside Celebitchy

      http://www.irishtimes.com/culture/film/the-trouble-with-strong-sexy-altruistic-angelina-jolie-1.2801964

      Add this gossip coverage to how Hillaru is veing treated, just very shocking to see how misogynistic the worlf still is…

  19. molly says:

    I remember when tabloids first came up with the angelina stacey story & stacey at the time said that it was not true. They are just rehashing a story from years ago to make angelina look as bad as they want.

  20. Tris says:

    “‘When she would travel, which was a lot, he would stay with them. Any time he wasn’t working, he was with the kids.’ And…? Anytime HE was working, she was with the kids too.”

    A+++++

    • doofus says:

      I am reminded of a Chris Rock bit.

      “some people want credit for sh*t they’re SUPPOSED to do.”

      like it’s such an accomplishment to be with your kids when you’re not working?!

    • Colette says:

      Most of the time when Angie took trips she would take at least one child with her.A few months ago she traveled to NY with Knox and Pax.I rarely saw Brad take any of the kids with him on his business trips.There are dozens of pics of AJ at airports with Shiloh and Zahara ,with Maddox,etc.Brad generally was only with the kids when Angie was also there.
      So either US Weekly made this up or his sources are delusional if they think it’s going to fly that he spent more time with the kids.I hope this US Weekly fiction.Also I don’t believe Brad damaged a plane.I believe US Weekly is repeating rumors.

      • DiamondGirl says:

        That’s just not true. There were plenty of pics with Brad and some of the kids in England when he was filming while Angie had the others elsewhere. Also pics of him taking one or both of the older boys to car racing or something.

      • Colette says:

        I said he rarely took the kids when he would take business trips like to Croatia,Germany,France.I wasn’t talking about having the kids on location.I know they each took some of the kids when he was filming in England and she was filming in Australia.

  21. Nancy says:

    I don’t think either of them are terrible people at all. The media portrayed them as the King and Queen of Hollywood. It’s hard to live up to that image. They are struggling through a hard time and have to do it in front of the world. If only people listened, when celebs going through times such as this asked for privacy. The only issue here is those six children. I hope B&A find a way to make it as easy as possible on them, because it seems in the beginning that was their common goal…to keep the family together.

  22. Obsidian says:

    US Weekly is spouting BS. They’ve said worse things about Angelina in the past. They’ve obviously taken a side but they’ll probably switch side next week once they’ve exhausted all the evil things about Angelina that they can think of. How are they gonna sell their mags otherwise?

  23. Fa says:

    Funny all these sources talking now where were they when they married secretly for 5 days no one knew they tied the knot and when she had double mastectomy, out of the blue sources are chatty

    • KB says:

      This. No one knows jacks*** until they put it out there. I’m fairly certain both camps went quiet after day two or so and everything since then has just been made up. Portraying Jolie as the villain is just the tabloid narrative that works and is most sellable.

    • sunshine gold says:

      Yeah, it makes no sense – she “cannot deal with anyone talking about their business” and yet this is SORDID and EVERYWHERE.

  24. Luca76 says:

    Ugh the blatant mysogony is so gross. And although the press and public at large enables men like Brad to behave this way at the end of the day he’s still losing his family due directly to his poor decisions even by his spin machines admission . If he just for one minute stopped and took responsibility for his actions maybe things would work out differently

  25. Ignatius J. Reilly says:

    Coming to a Lifetime channel soon…
    “Pitt-ed on a Plane”

  26. shewolf says:

    I can see myself in how Angelina is portrayed. I do come off very icy in regular social settings and yet on the other hand my humanitarian concerns and efforts suggest otherwise. I think sometimes it’s just hard to relate to people when they excel at being the social butterfly kind of mom at the school function and I can’t be arsed with anything to do with that world. I don’t judge it as less than my world, I just can’t present myself in a way that’s a bit more diplomatic and crowd pleasing. I think that this is why there’s such a dichotomy in how people perceive Angelina, some see her as saint, some see her as evil. Couple her personality with the fact that she is insanely beautiful and I think the effect is this air of superiority that really isn’t there.

    • Kitten says:

      Some people feel rejected by introverts, which is silly because it’s not personal: we just like doing our own thing. *shrugs*

  27. Sassback says:

    Idk screaming in a teenager’s face? Both my dad and my mom were made enraged enough by me and my sister to go zero to 100. I don’t blame them, my sister and I are stubborn, headstrong and very rebellious-and also very spoiled. My mom once threw a cereal bowl against the wall, splattering milk and Cinnamon Toast Crunch everywhere, because I told her to mind her own ‘f***ing’ business. I’m totally ashamed that I used to push them to that point when they are very loving people. And if they fought, you bet my sister and I would get involved and take sides. I think people relate to Brad Pitt’s dilemma here and that’s why he’s getting support. Meanwhile, one incident of this is not enough to suddenly divorce so the marriage was obviously dead for awhile. Obviously, Brad and Angelina are not compatible people. He’s just a movie star who likes to live a movie star lifestyle, traveling, filming, hanging out, and she’s interested in becoming more involved in humanitarian affairs. I’m sure he’s a great dad but they obviously have crazy different parenting styles.

    • Lahdidahbaby says:

      You make good points here, Sassback. Thanks.

    • LittleTeaPot says:

      Sassback…you make total sense here. It does seem that the one thing in common that brought them together was children & now it appears to be the thing that drives them apart. In there lustful days their differences were not that apparent. But now??

    • Snowflake says:

      Yeah, I don’t think it’s fair to judge him off of one incident. We’ve never heard a word about him being a bad parent. And we don’t really know what actually happened. I’ve had heated arguments where there was lots of yelling. I know he supposedly put his hands on Maddox, but it could have been an accident, we weren’t there. I’m not trying to make excuses butt we don’t know enough to come to a conclusion, IMO

  28. Icantremember says:

    Personally, I loathe the obligatory “girl talk” I am expected to engage in around my husbands single guy, drunko friends girlfriends/dates/hookups. I can’t pull off phony with people I am basically set up with and forced to “entertain “. Just because your guys bro brings a female, why do I have to babysit her? Grrrrr. I would never be mean but find it taxing, and why are females thusly obliged?

    • Snowflake says:

      This^^
      The guys want to hang out so they bring some chick to keep you company. Then it’s awkward cause you don’t know this person.

  29. NeoCleo says:

    I think, based upon years of observation, that A. Jolie is a highly intelligent person who does not suffer fools gladly. Somehow, I just don’t have a problem with that.

  30. Moon says:

    Guess that explains clooney’s barely repressed smirk when he heard the news.

  31. Who ARE These People? says:

    Damage to the plane? That’s not an insignificant detail. It’s not like damage to a house sitting safely on the ground. He was really out of control.

    • Jerry says:

      IF things were that bad and Brad did actually cause damage to the plane and was that out of control, why wasn’t he detained at the airport in MN? Angelina is a wonderful mother and yes, she’d do anything to protect their kids. IF it was that bad, then why did she then allow him to fly back the final rest of the way? I’m not excusing Brad for what happened, etc. I have always thought if he was that out of control when they landed in MN, she’d have left him in MN with one of their security to find his way home. That’s always been my sticking point. Not that an incident/argument occurred, etc.

      The only people that know what happened are Angelina, Brad, their kids and whomever was on that flight and the agencies that have an open investigation going on.

  32. Diane says:

    I don’t think AJ would have started this path unless she had a plan. She is an excellent strategist apparently. She initially subtly alluded to something bad, but no facts. Brad comes out swinging because the facts will come out and he will look bad, quite legitimately. His campaign seems to be to sMear AJ so his facts don’t look so bad.
    I think she has more. If I were her, I would wait until he built it up into a fury and then quietly let the more slip out there without fanfare. The contrast would be extremely impacting.
    This would be interesting if there weren’t kids IRL….

  33. noway says:

    If I had to make a guess, and let’s be honest we are all making guesses, because if either Brad or Angie is everything they are described to be in the media, both would be in an insane asylum, I would say the celebitchy headline is closer to the truth, just turn down the drama a few notches. As opposed to the US magazine headline which is negative or mean girling Angie, I think the truth lies somewhere in the middle and both probably have issues with the marriage. I doubt there was any physical abuse toward Angie or the kids. I just don’t see Brad as being that type, and or Angie of staying with him for 12 years. Although, not impossible, I just can’t see it with the way they have presented themselves over the years, but again I don’t know the real Brad and Angie so who knows. Keep in mind Angie isn’t even claiming abuse now. I would say a couple growing apart and anger ensuing is kind of the age old divorce story, and does seem likely. Now asking for physical custody of the kids may just be because Angie wants the right to have all the kids in London where she is supposedly working. It could just be a divorce filing ploy. If there weren’t kids involved, I would love this gossip, but with the kids it seems a bit smarmy to speculate and trash either their mother or father. I feel bad for them.

  34. Ginger says:

    Having grown up in a chaotic household with parents in an unhappy marriage and a father who was physically and verbally abusive. Angie did the right thing, if the stories are true. I can’t tell you how many arguments and confrontations with my father, some even in public where he was inches from mine or my brothers face. I was thankful when my parents finally split for good. It’s not healthy for the children to be in that environment. I’m sure she knows better than others since she also came from a broken home. When my own marriage came to an end, the well being of our child played a huge role in the divorce. The press can paint her however they please but I feel this seemingly sudden split was to protect the kids. I just hope for their sake it doesn’t get any uglier.

  35. SouthWest says:

    Maybe this is an overshare, but….
    yelling at a teenager is not normal. Yelling at anyone is assault, plain and simple.

    I was in an abusive relationship for two years and it escalated so badly that the police had to get deeply involved.
    I remember talking to the DA about pressing charges, and he asked me why the early signs of abuse didn’t ring any warning bells. I told him when I grew up my parents yelled, at each other and at me, especially when I became a teenager. It never got physical, it was all verbal. I thought it was normal. He took my hand and gently told me that kind of behavior was not normal, or acceptable, under any circumstances.
    Juat because teenagers are frustrating doesn’t mean you can respond violently. They’re still vulnerable, still being influenced by their patents. It creates patterns that are not okay.

  36. Tartine says:

    The most offensive part of this story is that they flew in a private jet from LA to Palm Springs.

    That’s an under two hour drive…..and some carbon footprint if you fly.

    So much for Pitt being an environmentalist.

    • SnowAngel says:

      Can be 4 to 5 hours in traffic. Plus Palm Springs airport is super small, and really fast to get out of it. If I had the money I would fly to PSP for sure. I also would expect that Angie would know how to make the basic small talk required in such “double dating” type of social situations, and if she actually refused to speak to SK, then shame on her. Maybe SK said it never happened just to be extremely polite, and she chose to take the high road rather than make a big deal about it. BTW one of my husbands best friends wife is like this, she will only speak or look at her husband in a group situation. If I say hello to her, she just looks away. Everyone has tried many times to make small talk with her to no avail. General consensus in our group of friends is that she may have aspergers, so we just ignore her.

  37. Annie says:

    It’s gross to me that some people in this thread make excuses like teenagers can make you loose your mind.

    Victim shaming of a 15 year old boy is not ok. We don’t even know why the boy interfered. What we do know is that his father got drunk ( confirmed by his sources) in a confined space and had a massive argument with the boy’s mother in front of their kids. And that the dad admits to putting hands on the boy.

    But yeah let’s point fingers at the child. Because beloved movie stars must be protected and defended at all costs. This is starting to remind me of the depp case. So depressing….

  38. Denise says:

    There are two sides to all relationship break ups and I am not invested in them as a couple. But I don’t like any cover that portrays a woman in this manner. Just curious whether we’ve ever seen this reversed? Where the man is said to be out to DESTROY (demon horns) the woman?

  39. yep says:

    i believe he was away from the kids way more than she ever was and he traveled more than she did. he stopped traveling solo with the kids a year or more ago. very easy to track with razzi photos. he’s been an absent parent. did not even spend FATHER’S Day wit their kids. His Crisis manager is a terrible liar.

  40. delorb says:

    Why would she (who was in a PERMANENT relationship with Brad) interact with those women? It’s not like Stacey or any of the others lasted past a month or two. And if she’s a serious person, why is it on her to sit and smile around his frivolous friends? She’s just spent time in a refugee camp and his friends are all talking about roles, cars, women (for example). I wouldn’t want to spend much time around them either. And I would hope my husband wouldn’t give me any grief for feeling this way.

    I understand Brad is trying to do a bit of damage control, but he needs to also think long-term. Trashing the mother of your children will be remembered.

    • Sarah says:

      Way to judge Stacy as being shallow and vacuous cause she’s a woman who must talk about frivolous things.
      Amazing.

  41. Libby says:

    As the mother of a teenaged boy, parents yell at their kids sometimes. They act poorly sometimes. That doesn’t warrant putting it out worldwide and sicking all host of federal agencies on a dad.

    • Guesty2 says:

      Exactly, but don’t say that here. The self righteous, “I never did X to my X year old child, so surely my experience must be the be all end all solution!”
      Im not going to gossip about the kids or the Pitt’s parenting because that’s not my place and we have very little to go off of.
      Though I will say people on this site act like Angie is a god and can do no wrong. Every single bad thing written about her is Brad and every bad thing written about Brad is true.
      How about there humans and they both make mistakes?
      How about we blame Us Weekly for there obvious clickbait articles instead of Brad?

    • Trashaddict says:

      If you keep your cool most of the time, and your yelling to a minimum, boy is it effective on those rare occasions when you actually do yell.
      Stimulus:noise ratio. Yell all the time, it’s just more of the same. Avoid it most of the time while demonstrating adult self-control, when you really do get to yelling the kid freaks out wondering what the heck they did to get you THAT mad. What my kids mostly crave is approval and they know when they have screwed up on that, just by my expression. I have yelled. On selected occasions. But I have also apologized to them afterwards for losing my cool. And they have usually apologized to me as well. And I learned from my mom to catch them being good and let them know it. They are turning into wonderful people.

  42. Bianca says:

    The two aren’t mutually exclusive. She can still be an icy bitch, whatever he did or however he is.

  43. someone says:

    I’m not going to bash either one of these people, I have never liked Jolie, but I don’t know anything about their lives behind closed doors..All I’m going to say is that I hope these children can weather the storm that’s coming..I think all the tabloids are making up stories, I don’t believe any of it!!! until I see it on the front page of People Mag, or it comes out of one of their mouths, then its not true IMO.. they both have the benefit of a doubt for me!!!

  44. molly says:

    Fact is this family is going through a very tough time right now. Divorces are brutal but add the whole public taking sides and the media & press & paparazzi hounding you 24/7 and making up whatever they want,character assassinations for clickbait and profit.

  45. PennyLane says:

    Okay, I checked out the private jet service they were using – the LARGEST plane this company has seats 15 people. Between the 6 kids, the 6 nannies, B&A, and brother James that is 15 people, so they were most likely flying on this jet:

    https://www.vistajet.com/fleet/global-6000/

    That space seems tiny; although it is 48 feet long, the cabin is only 6’4″ high and about 8 feet wide – and from the looks of the layout there is no privacy.

    A fourteen hour flight with fourteen other people in that space would definitely fray my nerves. It’s kind of hard to avoid people in a space that small, there’s only so many times you can check your email, and just being honest I might have a drink or two to deal with the feeling of being cooped up. I can see how a blowup happened while everyone was trapped in a small space like that, especially with a couple whose marriage was already dead in the water.

  46. Sara says:

    I was at the newsagent yesterday and the Australian weeklies are all taking a VERY pro Angelina / Evil Brad stance. I find the difference between that and the US weeklies very interesting.

  47. Louise177 says:

    I don’t understand why Brad is the victim in this. As much as people keep saying Angelina and Maddox caused the fight, there’s nothing to back it up. What makes this more baffling is that even Brad and his sources say he was drinking, yelling, and had some physical contact with Maddox. Angelina never said that Brad was abusive. Somebody else called the authorities since they thought Brad’s behavior was disturbing. Saying she filed for divorce for the health of the family doesn’t mean abuse. But if they’re fighting as much and as severely as claimed, that’s definitely not a healthy situation for anybody. I think I’m most upset about so many people blaming Maddox. Saying that teenagers are rage inducing. Brad wasn’t even fighting with him. He was coming in between Brad and Angelina. I’m not sure why people don’t think/believe that the fighting was so bad that maybe Maddox felt he had to protect Angelina. Instead people are claiming he’s just a brat pushing Brad’s buttons.

  48. Vox says:

    I know it shouldn’t, but the story about Brad trying to escape the scene in one of those little fuel trucks cracks me up. It would be hilarious if not for the argument and his kids being there to witness it.

  49. Laura-j says:

    Former a-hole teenager here. I used to provoke the heck out of my parents and get in screaming fights with them.sometimes they had been drinking.

    I don’t feel like I was ever abused.

    None of us know them: And some families yell. Doesn’t make it abuse.

    Until someone in the family says what happened, I’ll reserve judgement.