Here are some photos of Emperor Baby Fists and Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu at the White House yesterday. Melania made her first trip to the White House since the inauguration for this Netanyahu visit, and Bibi brought his wife Sara too. Incidentally, if you follow Israeli political gossip, the Netanyahus apparently have a pretty crazy marriage. But that’s not the point of this post. What is the point? I don’t know, the media seemed really distracted yesterday with this visit and now we’re supposed to be talking about Trump’s plan for peace in the Middle East, and we’re supposed to believe Jared Kushner is just the mensch to make it happen. We’ll see.
Personally, I thought the more interesting political news yesterday was Baby Fists’ now open war with American intelligence agencies. To be fair, American intelligence agencies seem to have declared war on Baby Fists first, mostly because intelligence officers were (rightly) appalled that somehow we got Putin’s Manchurian Candidate in the White House. Trump has been on a tweeting-binge in the past 24 hours about all of the “leaks.” Here are the tweets from yesterday:
This Russian connection non-sense is merely an attempt to cover-up the many mistakes made in Hillary Clinton's losing campaign.
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) February 15, 2017
Information is being illegally given to the failing @nytimes & @washingtonpost by the intelligence community (NSA and FBI?).Just like Russia
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) February 15, 2017
The real scandal here is that classified information is illegally given out by "intelligence" like candy. Very un-American!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) February 15, 2017
And these tweets just came up this morning:
Leaking, and even illegal classified leaking, has been a big problem in Washington for years. Failing @nytimes (and others) must apologize!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) February 16, 2017
The spotlight has finally been put on the low-life leakers! They will be caught!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) February 16, 2017
Poor baby snowflake. So sensitive. So butthurt. So corrupt. Notice he doesn’t actually deny what’s being said in any of the intelligence leaks. Trump does have “plans” to deal with all of the leaks: he’s going to appoint a billionaire “outsider” (with no intelligence experience) named Stephen Feinberg to “a broad review of the intelligence agencies.” There’s also additional reporting that intelligence officials are purposefully holding back sensitive intelligence from Trump and the White House because the agencies believe that Trump and his people will misuse it or leak it themselves, likely to Russia.
The lesson here: Vladimir Baby Fists gets what he paid for.
Photos courtesy of Fame/Flynet.
Am sure he said that about the Russian ladies he paid to ‘leak’ all over a bed!
He’s had it in for the intelligence community since he won the election – thats a fight he needs to walk away from. If he and Sessions try to silence them – well, I’ve got some wine and happy to share. Esp now as Putin has said he wants to work ‘closely’ with US intel agencies. Putin clearly has some serious sh!t on Trump and his cohorts. Some on CIA/FBI et al, go for it.
I don’t quite understand the power the intelligence community wields. You seem to. Would you be so kind as to talk a little more about that? Super curious. Like, do they have the power to take him down? And if so, how would it work? Would the judiciary need to be involved? Legislative branch? Or, what would an “intelligence” coup look like?
Thanks, if you have the time!
Well, they are spies after all and often work outside the law. Part of their job is to collect information that can be used against you. It was the intel community that brought down Richard Nixon – so they’ve brought down a US President before. Google Watergate to see how it was done.
They have evidence to prove that Trump is in bed with Putin and that is what they are leaking to the press now. He’s been threatening them for months, they are fighting back and are doing their job of protecting the country.
The problem with comparisons to Watergate is that Democrats had a majority in congress. I’m pretty much convinced that with a Republican majority, any attempts to bring the treasonous administration to justice will be blocked at every possible turn.
a LOT.
if you’re not familiar with him, check out Jonathan Schindler’s website, 20 committee, or something like that. he’s a former NSA analyst and is now a professor of national security affairs as the US Naval College.
he got an email from a currentmember of the intelligence community that started off “he will die in jail” (he being Drumpf). apparently the IC is going to go “nuclear” on Drumpf.
he REALLY, REALLY should not have badmouthed and alienated them.
ETA: Esmom, what you say is true, but if the IC is leaking to the press, and they are running with every piece that’s offered, I don’t think the Repubs in Congress will be able to stall indefinitely. the American public has shown it’s power when it comes to protesting this admin, and THIS could be (IS!!!) treason. I don’t think the GOP congress will be able to get away with sweeping this under the rug, esp with McCain not letting it go.
Let’s put it this way, they have brought down foreign regimes/governments and started wars more times than Baby Fists has lost money. Those are networks nobody can even begin to understand and if they want to, they could probably get rid of Trump faster than he can call Putin. I doubt it would involve a legal process. Just think of what we learned thanks to Edward Snowden. They probably have every email, every call he has ever made on file somewhere. Tax returns? Child’s play.
If I were him, I wouldn’t know who I’d be more scared of. Them or Putin. I think he’s just too stupid to be afraid of his own intelligence agencies because a) he doesn’t understand what they do at all, b) he most likely thinks they can’t touch him because he’s the most powerful man in the world (sure) and c) they don’t openly threaten him like the Russians probably have.
He needs to keep poking them. I’m all for it.
@Esmom ITA Repbulicans are focusing on the leakers, not the substance of the leaks. It is going to take a massive demand from the public to get them to act, and even that may not work. I think our only hope is info so damaging drops that Trump resigns to save face.
“If I were him, I wouldn’t know who I’d be more scared of. Them or Putin.”
Yup, there is crazy level espionage in Russia, too. Putin himself is an ex-KGB member. You fuck with him, you “disappear”, you get poisoned, you die, etc. If I were EasyD I´d be scared of both.
@esmom and Megan- that is what concerns me most now. At this point, impeachment seems justified and necessary, yet we are trapped by a Republican majority. I don’t believe they will budge for ANYTHING, save for public outcry so strong Fox News turns on them.
I think we will soon start hearing leaks implicating Mitch McConnell.
The intelligence community is our only hope right now. We can’t wait until mid-terms. This is an emergency. Is this some high level James Bond style stuff or what? Do you think people are like carrying exploding pens and wearing old lady disguises? I hope so. I hope they’re kicking ass. The country’s future depends on it. Easy D appointing this guy to inspect them? How does that even work? It’s not like they’re a Burger King?
Wow I think a lot of people really watch too many spy movies. First I think the FBI, NSA and CIA would take great offense at anyone saying they often work outside the law or try to collect info to get you. They would say they try to enforce the law, and protect US interests abroad with the law. The FBI doesn’t really have spies that’s predominantly the CIA, not sure what the NSA has as “No Such Agency” has been quite tight lipped over the years. In laymen’s simplistic terms think of the FBI as the chief police for the United States. The NSA is for the military, but they have also been the chief policer of terrorism chatter, and the CIA are the US international police force, with the spies. There are other intelligence services in other departments too, ATF, Secret Service, even National Archives has one of the biggest cyber units. When they say intelligence it is quite large.
Why would you not want to piss them off, other than they are bigger than one office and a lot of them can shoot to kill, (granted we have never had a modern revolution but who knows wouldn’t want to risk it) well we know the FBI is investigating the connection between the Trump campaign and Russia during the election. If there was any quid pro quo for Trump it could be defined as treason a crime. Why would you want to anger organizations that investigate you? Just odd tactic, doesn’t make you look very innocent.
Now the thing about Watergate is interesting in that it was an FBI person who leaked the info to Woodward and Bernstein of the Washington Post and that eventually brought Nixon down. We know Trump’s White House is leaking a lot, I personally think it is the Secret Service, as I think a lot think he is nuts and the head of the Secret Service just resigned a few days ago. Still you put them in a weird position if they feel like the President is unfit. Funny too who has been very quiet the last few weeks -Bob Woodward. After the inauguration Woodward was not totally against Trump, kind of lukewarm, now he is MIA. You know he wants one more good story. I’m not sure Trump’s tactic of going after the media and the intelligence agency is such a great idea, as they can bite back and sway the public against him. The outcome could be worse than going back to his guilded gold palace in NYC.
@Unicorn- yes, and the sources say there’s more to come. I think they are waiting for the rest of the GOP members to expose themselves and show us who is also in collusion in this mess. I’ve always been cynical about the GOP, but I did think they at least had a few genuinely good members. Now they seem to truly be the American Fascist Party. Had a work acquaintance, a proud conservative, who quietly dropped out of the GOP around 2004/5. I asked him why and he said that some very discordant and disturbing elements were taking over and it wasn’t his party anymore. Huh. Wonder what he thinks now.
“The intelligence community is our only hope right now. We can’t wait until mid-terms. This is an emergency.”
This is how I feel right now. Courts are doing their part too, but that usually takes years. I don’t know if we can wait that long.
I am so curious as to what is the tipping point for the congressional GOP. What is it going to take for them to do their job, to put country before party? To put country before personal gain?
I’m not sure but a whole nation of angry people calling them, showing up every time they speak, and filling their voicemail boxes can’t hurt.
Says the king of the leaks *chuckle*
So ironic. Sick of his whining, lying, and thin skin.
who looked into the camera and asked Russia to leak Clintons emails.
Yeah, he loved leaks when they were Clinton’s emails. He loved them and he said it publicly many times.
I swear to God, if congress investigates the leaks instead of the actual content of the leaks (the evidence that Trump colluded with Russia), I’m quitting. I’m done. I resign as a human.
This! That he thinks he has some sort of moral high ground is amusing.
@Shambles Hand in your resignation, because that is exactly what they are doing. 😡
http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/15/politics/jason-chaffetz-inspector-general/
Megan,
I saw that they were asking, but the way I interpreted it was that they were just calling for an investigation of the leaks? I don’t think there’s confirmation that there will be an investigation yet, but I could be wrong.
My, my, my what happened to Mr. “I lOVE WIKILEAKS!” “RUSSIA IF YOU ARE LISTENING CAN YOU FIND FIND CLINTONS EMAILS?”. Lol
Something big is definitely coming.
I hope so, and soon. I hope the intelligence agencies produce their dirt on Trump.
I can’t believe Theresa May is wanting to distance us from our European Allies for bloody Trump. FFS. He might not be around for the state visit later this year.
I don’t think its Trump per se – she would have done the same regardless of who got in. She needs a North American trade agreement in order to soften the blow a bit when we leave the EEA.
But it would’ve been nice for our collective national pride (I know: insert wry grimace here) if she’d at least slipped in a small eye roll or something. Rather than just holding his bloody hand & simpering. Oh, the shame.
Nobody likes us, everybody hates us, think we’ll go & eat worms 🙁
I feel it, everyone on CNN feels it (if they don’t know it already), and I’m ready to know what the f*ck is going on once and for all. It’s been morbidly fascinating to have confirmation of what we already knew and watch all this sh!t slowly unravel.
I’ve now reached the point of wondering if Trump was actually told to run for president by Putin. I has previously assumed that the links with Russian politics had developed after Trump decided to run; but I now wonder if it was Putin’s idea all along, and that Putin made Trump an offer he couldn’t refuse, given the hold that Putin appears to have.
Extraordinary timing yesterday for the US to send the signal that if allies don’t cough up more funding, the US would take a step back from NATO. There may well be a case for allies paying more, but why on earth would the US send the message that NATO isn’t 100% solid at a time when Russian influence is under the spotlight? Maybe a signal to Putin that while Flynn may have gone, Russia would continue to be in the good books. Trump would make anyone a conspiracy theorist…
Re: NATO, Putin is def pulling Trumps strings on that. Putin hates NATO just as much as he hates the EU/rest of the world. This man wants a war and has been planning for one for years.
Trump ran for president before? More than once. So it is probably his own egotastic idea.
I don´t think Putin wants war per se. However, he wants to destabilize the West, USA especially. If there were no unions (Nato, EU), he would be able to execute more power.
AnneTommy,
I’ve thought about this very scenario many times before, and I think it’s extremely plausible.
How can Mattis’ not know that there is something truly, deeply wrong with all this? Is he blind?
I now wonder if his 2005 marriage to Melania was not the first step of creating a more conventional profile so he could run for some kind of political office. He added her to his entourage around 1996, I think, so why not just pay for another abortion instead of having another child with her? I will be so relieved when the truth on all this comes out, so my mind doesn’t keep making stuff up!!
I don’t think even Russia expected him to win. I think it was more they saw how effective he was at making that birther bull a big thing and wanted to take advantage of his ego trip for their own ends.
It also seems to me they have no actual interest in keeping him in office once they get what they want otherwise why would the Russian ambassador be so sloppy in his communications with Flynn.
The ruse has started years and years ago, much like a grooming process. Please read:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/world/2017/01/13/trumps-foreign-network/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2017/01/13/how-russian-kompromat-destroys-political-opponents-no-facts-required/?utm_term=.dfd06a3b7d6f
https://www.buzzfeed.com/kenbensinger/these-reports-allege-trump-has-deep-ties-to-russia?utm_term=.jr9AAEqqb#.xoPKKbqqn
http://www.the-american-interest.com/2016/12/19/the-curious-world-of-donald-trumps-private-russian-connections/
I agree. I feel like they’re setting it all up with drips of information, and soon are going to bring down the hammer. He’s been insulting them from day 1 – not a smart move at all. He messed with the wrong people.
Funny how in his mind the problem is the “leaks” – not the National Security Advisor breaking the laws and colluding with Russia.
So he’s admitting that everything the intelligence agencies are leaking is true.
Thats what I took from it – there was no screaming of fake news. They can’t really deny it now as the Flynn controversy confirmed Russia was closely involved in the election.
Yes. Has been doing so for several days now despite major news outlets pointing that fact out to him. And Congress? They want to investigate the leaks, not the content of the leaks. Because Jason Chaffetz is a traitor.
I do not understand how he was re-elected by such a big margin last fall.
gerrymandering
Sounds that way to me. Rational thought is not one of his attributes. However, being the dumb motherfckr that he is doesn’t seem to worry his staff or his supporters. He’s just keeps tweeting stupid sh*t like this with no repercussions.
Very true.
Loved what Stephen Colbert said:
““Here’s the thing: It can’t be both fake news and an illegal leak of classified information. ‘Your honor, I did not murder that man. The real criminal is whoever filmed me strangling him.’”
He can’t take any blame. Blame everyone else. Again blaming Hillaŕy for something
Yeah, still blaming Hillary. He’s so pathetic.
I find it very interesting that they are the only ones concerned about Hillary losing. For the most part (and there will always be those who can’t) Hillary losing has been let go and the energy that was expended there is now being expended on fighting Trump and his minions and the havoc they are wreaking.
It just doesn’t seem possible does it, that this man is in the position he is. He is making our country weak and laughable, except for our enemies, they’re dead serious with a mission. We are vulnerable and the World’s eyes see it. I fear for us all, but mostly our children, my children. He has to commit an impeachable act. Even his comrades at arms know he is insane. Everyone from my cab driver to the mail carrier to the cashier at the grocery store are fearing impending doom. STOP HIM
yes 🙁
the rest of the world is dead serious and trump may be sending ground troops to syria.
the reality tv star. sending troops to syria.
Putin is certainly grabbing him by the p***y. And basically the whole file with the other kind of leak, amongst other things, is apparently proven to be all true (Guardian read I can’t find now).
Ok. Now I want the gossip on the Netanyahus.
+1 on Netanyahu gossip.
Co-sign. Please give us Netanyahu gossip!
Dude you looked at national security documents IN PUBLIC. GTFOH
…and had conversations about same in public.
…and used mobile flashlight apps to read them, even though at least one flashlight app has previously been proven to be a Chinese spying device in the last year.
This will sound naive, I know, but surely – SURELY – he can at least be stopped from doing shit like this? Surely?
Through impeachment. Or if he listens to a sane advisor (he doesn’t have any, and even if he did, he wouldn’t listen).
I’m gobsmacked. Seriously. A mobile flashlight app? What kind of idiot is this guy. (Don’t answer; I know.)
He’s definitely an idiot. He’s clueless about how important a presidents job is and how to do it. Now, what about the idiots that voted for this disastrous idiot. SMH
Leaving aside the fact that he should have been able to find privacy in his own building, the president is supposed to travel with a sort of plastic igloo type apparatus, for just such an emergency: there are a couple of types, pics were shown of Obama using them. I think they have some sort of property that prevents hacking, though I’m not IT savvy enough to know any more. It’s extraordinary that his behaviour isn’t going to result in some sort of retribution.
I’m really struggling to comprehend this: I worked somewhere high security for a while & if we so much as took a work laptop off premises or put something slightly dodgy in an email or had something a bit off-beat in our car or looked at the security guards a bit oddly, we’d be grilled/reprimanded/suspended. I find it hard to believe that someone just a bit more important – ooh say the SCROTUS – isn’t subject to the same restrictions.
My emails were constantly blocked for “casual swearing” 😀
Plastic igloo type apparatus😂😂😂. I just have visions of Maxwell Smart and the Cone of Silence. If it weren’t so insanely dangerous this whole administration would work perfectly on a sitcom.
Those of us who have had first hand experience with a totalitarian regime know very well that any argument between a politician and intelligence agencies is only won by the latter. They know where the bodies are buried and have the experience to play the game. Yes, sadly some people will be made scapegoats by Trump and his goons in an effort to show “toughness” but the leaks will just get worse until somehow he is removed.
I wouldn’t be surprised if the republicans are goading him, because it will make to that much easier to remove him once he’s done all their dirty work for them, appointing all their fellow billionaire donors, privatizing Medicare etc. Once he’s outlived his usefulness, they’ll kick him to the curb, ending up with Pence, which is what they want. But first they’ll let Trump do a few really horrible things that will deeply affect his base so that they don’t jeopardize their own careers.
I agree that’s their plan but it going to backfire on them – their forgetting how petty Baby Fists is. He will take GOP with him when he goes down.
As he should. They are the ones who endorsed him, who ignored his obvious mental illness, and who are protecting him now.
But can he? I mean, I’d love for that to happen, but I doubt it. He and his gang are a disorganized bunch whose only concern is image and the last tweet / tv appearance. I’m not sure he could take down the GOP even if he wanted to. The Republicans have a great way to work this in their favour – when they finally take him down after the IC has done their dirty work for them, they’ll be all “we tried to work with him and support him, he was elected and we believed the results, but once evidence showed otherwise, we manfully and bravely disowned him, although he was a republican” – all the while conveniently ignoring that Trump was never a true republican (as far as anyone can tell his only credo is money and his own personal cult) and their craven party over country behaviour. They will spin this. He wont be able to.
^ They will try but given that they have just refused to support any investigation into the Russia allegations it will be hard for them to spin their way out of it. Flynn was a warning to Trump, Bannon and the rest of the senior GOP people. The warning isn’t just about leaving the Intel Community alone but also about cutting ties with Russia. But Trump has too much to lose to p!ss them off, he must owe them billions.
If proven true that Russia put Trump and GOP in the WH then they are over – thats a stink that will hang over them for generations. They will forever be known as the party that had to cheat their way into the WH with the help from a foreign power.
People who live in what are generally considered democracies also know that is true of the intelligence services of their own countries, if they’ve been paying close attention.
however, Pence could be toast, too, if it’s proven that he assisted with the cover up by lying about what he knew and when he knew it.
Then we’d end up with Paul Ryan??
I know. terrible, but not insane, at least.
If I had to choose, I think Paul Ryan would be the lesser of the 3 evils.
Pence did lie. NBC called him out on that yesterday. It’s fabulous. http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/mike-pence-told-about-flynn-warning-11-days-after-trump-n720836
Can I submit my own conspiracy theory? The CIA continues its drip drip drip, undermining both 45 and the GOP, until 2018, when the midterms result in a Dem House. 45 and Pence both are impeached, leaving the presidency to the new Speaker (Pelosi?).
We only end up with Ryan if both Trump and Pence are removed simultaneously without one or the other having the opportunity to appoint a new VP, who would be confirmed by Congress. See: Nixon & Agnew. Agnew resigned due to tax problems. Nixon appointed Ford. Nixon resigned. Ford became President and appointed Rockefeller his VP. Speaker of the House stayed where he was.
This is EXACTLY why Pence was left out of the loop about Flynn. Plausible deniability. His hands *appear* clean so he can take over for Trump when the ship goes down.
I think that’s their plan as well. Use him as long as they need him and then take him down and claim credit for saving the country. Barf.
I’m hoping they really underestimated their constituents’ anger though, and we’re able to vote a lot of them out in the coming elections. Most of them have never faced challenges in their districts and states, but that may be changing.
He uses hyphens excessively. I shouldn’t be surprised.
Says “very, very” excessively, too. So impressed with his extensive vocabulary. Equally impressed with his maturity, i.e., refusing to answer questions from CNN. It was embarrassing to watch.
I know he is such a coward, cant man up and answer a few questions, he is supposed to be only allowing favourable media ie fox news, newyork post to ask questions at these press conferences, he never asks CNN etc, he is such a conman, cant wait till he is taken down.
He’s a complete buffoon.
I can’t even listen to him talk..he is so painful to listen to. He really is not good speaker at all.. i asked a few supporters of his, what would you think if he was your boss and he acted this way, would you really take him seriously or think how the heck am I lower than this guy? Guess what they said… they wouldn’t see him as professional or a good boss however they still think he will/is a good president… what!?!?!? Does that make sense?
Non-sense!*
*He tweeted that yesterday and I have been anxious to use it.
Honestly, this was the best thing for Hillary. Had she won, no matter how great she was, all the country’s ills would have been blamed on her. Now Emperor Orange is left holding the bag filled with a steaming pile of shyt. In my opinion, the country is already pretty great. Do we have issues? Sure, but not to the extent that this shitgibbon ran on. He rigged the election so he could “fix” everything (to his favor and those of his ilk), now I’d like to see him try.
Agree that America has ALWAYS been great. Maybe one day we will be as great as Russia is in Trump’s eyes. I’m posting too much today, because I cannot take it anymore.
The scary and thing to me is that a lot of Trump supporters could care less about how embedded Russia is with trump and co. They would rather watch the world burn down than admit they were wrong. As long as they are winning against liberals. Republicans politicians are no better, completely fixated with power.
Yep, I too agree, America is great and always has been – we are great. We are a vast and diverse group of great, and as someday, if we all believe it together, we will overcome.
True. He will unanimously go down as the worst US president ever. Usually these determinations are divided by party affiliation but once in awhile somebody is so horrendous that even his party cannot dispute the obvious fact. George W knows a thing or two about this.
Good grief. It really does feel like the end times, doesn’t it? Whoever could have foreseen the day that the CIA would become the white knights of the American republic? THE CIA!
And, from the Britisher perspective, General Mattis basically threatened reduced NATO involvement yesterday, unless the European nations cough up more cash. If you recall, the ability to get promises about NATO commitment was what Theresa May told the UK would be her MAIN negotiating advantage over the 27 for Brexit. THAT’S crumbled to dust then.
Hahaha – i know esp that we haven’t even met our financial obligations to NATO either.
I was dying laughing over that yesterday! May’s government nitpicking over the value of sterling cos now her stupid party and its stupid Brexit has managed to crash it, we miss the 2% by 0.03%.
WE ARE BEING LED BY FOOLS, CHARLATANS AND UTTER INCOMPETENTS.
(And there’s no way that sentence can be in anything other than capital case!)
@Sixer – Yep we are, we are effd. Have been thinking of moving to Europe to work but I fear that I will be just as effed there too – I have a strong feeling that the right right wing will be running the show there soon.
Did you see how awkward her school visit was yesterday? Where she got jumped on about local NHS services? I know I complain about the NHS in Scotland but the NHS in England is far far worse.
How she has got the reputation of a safe pair of hands is beyond me.
Mr Sixer and both Sixlets are eligible for Irish (dual) citizenship through descent and we are in the process of applying. At least it improves options.
Hey Sixer, do you know what the relationship needs to be for Irish dual? I have Irish in my background too; afraid it’s a bit too far back but if I can I might!
I’ve already got myself squared over here so my papers will be in order if necessary, but I do like the idea of being able to get a European union passport.
https://www.dfa.ie/passports-citizenship/ Is the relevant Irish Dept of Foreigh Arrairs and Trade site bluhare
See Annetommy’s link, bluhare. Basically, it’s grandparents. Mr Sixer has one Irish national parent and three Irish national grandparents. The Sixlets have one Irish national grandparent.
Thanks you guys. I think I might be one generation short!
@Sixer – ikr?!
This should be an object lesson, never piss off the spooks.
Yep.
If you recall, the ability to get promises about NATO commitment was what Theresa May told the UK would be her MAIN negotiating advantage over the 27 for Brexit. THAT’S crumbled to dust then.
Yeah, when they told her that if they wanted to know what Trump was thinking about, they’d read his twitter, I knew that she was toast. They are just making a lot of noise, this Tory government and their bluffs are so transparent.
I need to seek refuge in Europe, tbh. Just because GB wants to live outside of the EU doesn’t mean that I do!
May just isn’t very good at bluffing. Who else in UK politics is there to get u out of this mess?
Nobody, Betti. There’s nobody.
May just isn’t very good at bluffing. Who else in UK politics is there to get u out of this mess?
No one. Corbyn is an EU skeptic, and told his MPs to vote to Trigger Article 50, and then saying that ‘it was time to fight’ after it got triggered. Never mind that that time for fighting was oh… almost a year ago.
Or even trying to change headlines when May and her cohorts were scrabbling to define what Brexit meant, besides ‘red, white and blue’.
The Lib Dems are pretty flighty, because they didn’t even turn up to Parliament when they were arguing pre the triggering of Art 50?
Right now, the SNP and the NI Parliament seem to be holding their corner. I do hope they break away from Great Britain to be apart of the EU and leave Wales and England to go down the swanee, tbh.
Our European Allies want to cripple us (which, is their right) because we’re acting like knobs. I can’t even apply for an Irish passport because the closet relative I have is Scottish. But by hook or by crook, I’m remaining in the EU, even if it means I have to get on the continent before the window closes and try to get residency there.
I’m tweaking my languages (Spanish and German), and trying to shore up options as best as I can. The government is in thrall to The Daily Mail, The Sun and The Express who seem to be trying to make May Thatcher part deux.
I meant to type ‘us’ – am a Brit too.
May will never be Thatcher part 2 or even Merkel part 2 – she’s shown herself to be out of her depth as PM. I’ve always said Corbyn was an incompetent twit who’s a secret commie, to me he’s proven that he’s not really a socialist. If he was he’d had put up more of a fight – and he knows how to put up a fight, we see it every time someone threatens his position as party leader.
I worry when people praise the SNP – granted they fight their corner but they are just as incompetent as all the others. Under the SNP Scotland has some of the highest council tax rates in the country, with said local authorities having their budgets cut every single year (while rates go up). They will never get into the EU, the EU has said several times that they will have to go to the back of the queue and follow the same process as everyone else, no ‘special’ treatment. Spain has already stated they will veto any independent Scottish application – so Scotland are still effed either way.
I want to go to Canada but I don’t have any family connections 🙁 As for moving to the EU, I’d like to do that but will wait until outcome of the elections over there as there is also a rise in the same right wing craziness that got us into this mess.
Ok. I am watching the Orange One’s presser now. It’s beyond belief.
But in other, European-based news, this in from Guy Verhofstadt and the EU parliament:
“The European Parliament, after a detailed debate on the matter, today decided to support a far-reaching reform of the European Union. Threatened both by internal perils, with Brexit and the rise of far right populism, and by external perils – embodied by Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin, who seek to hasten the disintegration of the Europe Union, MEPs today supported three reports on the future of Europe to improve its functioning and build a political Union.”
http://alde.eu/en/news/843-the-future-of-europe-brexit-trump-putin-more-than-enough-reasons-to-reform-the-union-urges-guy-verhofstadt/
The thing to note here, especially if you are American, is that the EU has formally recognised Putin and Trump as an actual threat. This is huge. The EU is explicitly saying, and adopting formal policies that specifically acknowledge, that the United States is a threat to Europe.
Bloody hell, Sixer, that’s quite something.
Interesting times indeed.
And you know, Pip, not to be selfish about it or anything – where the hell does this leave the UK? Post-Brexit, we will have to choose.
@sixer – on one hand I welcome the news that they will reform as its about bloody time they did – this is a bold move and one i thought would come as it was hinted at when Brexit happened. They will def use any and every opportunity to turn the knife with us but this is for self preservation as well. They are also recognising that if they don’t change the EU will collapse. By reforming this way it also tightens member bonds meaning that once you’re in, you can’t get out.
However considering how long it takes the EU to do anything, I suspect that this is something that will trundle on for years and they will then back track and say the won’t be able to do anything until we leave. By that time, if the world hasn’t ended, the political landscape will have changed.
They are basically going to create a United States of Europe, I wonder how that will go down with some of the member states – the Eastern block and the Middle East won’t like that either. Another super power on their doorsteps.
Also, re the orange one – he’s getting more orange every time. However does his makeup should be sacked.
I don’t think we have much to choose from – I’m afraid it’s becoming more & more apparent that the UK has played its hand very badly indeed.
We’re an insignificant little island (albeit one with a fairly decent-size economy) & we’ve managed to alienate all our neighbours & allies to the east & our special friend to the west has never given a toss about us.
Making Britain Great again ….?
Newsweek is reporting that US allies have been keeping intelligence reports on the US since August due to Russian interference. I’m sure they have plenty to share with US intelligence agencies also. Newsweek would not name the countries, but suspects include Britain, Germany, and a Baltic country.
Easy-D is in a downward spiral and the walls are closing in. Never denigrate your intelligence agencies, Emperor Zero. Just like in that hotel in Russia, it can can get very “leaky.”
Israel. Israeli intelligence announced last month that it isn’t sharing because they know Putin will get the information.
& I’d imagine Israeli intelligence is pretty bloody effective – it certainly used to be anyway.
Israeli intelligence scares the beejesus out of me. I lived there with the ex who was a medic on a SEAL-like military team. The stories he told me…Finally said I didn’t want to know. Safer that way. And this coming from the daughter of two people who worked for one of the US intelligence agencies until they retired. as a kid, I had to have permission to leave the US and give an itinerary to my mother’s ’employer.’ But, the Israelis are a whole different kettle of fish. They once murdered an enemy with his own cell phone according to lore.
Yup. A relative used to deal with Ariel Sharon & some of the stories were chilling.
Mossad are bat sh!t scary – just look at how they dealt with the Nazi’s after the war and the people behind the Munich Olympic massacre. Both were gov sanctioned.
Pip, Israeli Intel and Security Services still are ruthlessly upper echelon.
Yes, and Israel intelligence made that known at the time the dossier story, which pretty much confirmed the dossier.
We haven’t forgotten that our very own Angie’s cell was hacked. And that was under Obama. Let me tell you, Germans aren’t that stupid. We’re dealing with some sh*t over here as well and I absolutely think it’s possible that our intelligence agencies are keeping some things from the US. Because Putin is basically right across the street. And has a war going on in Europe. Trump has made it very clear that if it’s up to him, we need to fix more of our own sh*t going forward and that we can’t count on him when it comes to Russia. This – if true – is the first result.
Presumably, Five Eyes relationships pretty much operate independent of particular administrations. So there’s that. Although even Five Eyes actors have expressed reservations about sharing intelligence.
Eric – see my comment above for EU statements and policy adoptions today, regarding this unholy alliance.
As a longtime resident, I’d just like to say, “Welcome to Washington, m*****f*****r.”
😂👏🏽
That photo of Donald and Israeli Prime Minster Netanyahu, with Ivanka and Jared following close behind is disturbing. I can understand Jared because he managed to get a job in the White House. But why is Ivanka there? Are all White House staffers allowed to bring their spouses along when a foreign leader visits? Not being snarky, just seems odd
What? You dont bring your daughter to your international diplomatic meetings?
LOL
Again (sorry, I’m posting this repeatedly today) surely Ivanka can be barred from attending meetings? Surely? I just can’t believe some of the stuff they’re getting away with.
That photo of her sitting in the sodding President’s chair gave me absolutely chills.
Me too, Pip, that disgusted me. I feel like they’re trying to use Ivanka for p.r. Sort of like, see we have women here!
She is unofficially one of Trump’s advisors. She doesn’t get paid but Trump has said all along that she would be in meetings like this.
Can you imagine if Hillary won and Chelsea was at every meeting? Trump supporters would lose their damn minds!
Or Bill. Does Ivanka have to have security clearance I wonder?
Now that EasyD is president, he is allowed to give out security clearances like candy.
Every day is bring your daughter to work day at the WH.
Also what is in her big ass bag? Nobody else carries anything, she always has this freaking bag. Makes me paranoid.
The real nuclear football might be in Ivanka’s purse…
Please. Ivanka has business to conduct. Trump family business comes before national interests
What the gossip on Netanyahus marriage? He is another figure to worry about. Obama helped keep him in check and Trump seems to see his role as being to embolden rather than restrain this guy. I’m praying Israel ditches him for a moderate before the two of them can start WW3.
Netanyahu clings tenuously to power by enabling the much much less moderate section of Israeli politics. If he is ditched there’s not a snowball’s chance in hell that he’d be replaced by someone more moderate.
So far, a Trump presidency has been far, far worse than I feared, and I was expecting a disaster.
My thoughts exactly!!
It’s sad. It would be funny if it weren’t so awful.
Every time he f*cks up, I chuckle at all his voters that fell for his lies and still say he’s doing a great job. But seeing him handle everything so bad upsets and makes me scared and I remember this isn’t a joke
Worse, and much faster (chaotic) than I expected.
Would that be the same “failing” New York Times that picked up 132k new subscribers since election night?
My hubby gave me a failing NYT subscription for Valentines! Now that’s true love ❤️
The jokes just write themselves with that tweet. I guess he really does wear adult diapers and his ass isn’t just bigly.
That was mean. I meant it to be.
Also I hate Susan Sarandon. I just feel so full of hate these days.
Last night we watched music videos instead of TV, and it was fun, we sang and danced. Nice break it was too 🙂
I wrote something similar on a Kellyanne Scarecrow post yesterday. I can’t believe how much anger and hate they bring out in me. I’m tired. I’ve started binge watching Gilmore Girls again. After finishing Friends.
GG is the perfect reprieve from this bullshit.
Oooooh I saw GG and I thought Gossip Girl. I will rewatch and pretend I’m Blair Waldorf until this nightmare ends, one way or another.
Binge watching Cheers.
🙂 to the music and dancing! I’m binging Blacklist right now.
I thought he love Wikileaks, or am I losing my mind, NO. He begged Wikileaks to leak more of Hilliary’s email. Now he wants to prosecute the leakers, not so much fun anymore. Payback is a B$$ch, big boy!
Also, the NYT isn’t failing. Their having a huge surge of subscriptions since the election.
I’ve noticed he just keeps repeating the same false phrases, like “failing NYT,” until his supporters take them as fact. I’ve noticed in social media comments that his angry, defensive supporters use the same phrase. It’s very calculated. And it makes me sick.
He explained somewhere that branding is really important to making people believe something. So if he calls the NYT Times ‘failing NYTimes”, that’s the rebranding he created, and certain segments believe it to be true because of the word affiliation. That’s why he puts an adjective in front of a noun, always. (and repeats it endlessly). To some demographics, it is really effective.
http://www.salon.com/2017/02/15/can-journalists-debunk-trumps-lies-without-amplifying-them-its-challenging-but-not-impossible/
Interesting take from Salon on how the press need to address the Trump, and surrogates, tactics of the repeated reinforcing lies.
Watch for the “failing Oprah” tweets, as Oprah released the tape of Puzder’s ex-wife talking about his abuse.
Interesting…. Pudzer has just withdrawn his nomination…… hmmmmmm
Omg, I cannot believe the Trump supporters! There is an article on DM about the discrimination in housing by the trumps. A commenter posted how this was the liberal media. I’ve known about that forever. Decades ago this happened. Then the 700 club came on and the anchor was talking about how they are trying to spin a narrative that Russia is involved in our government! How can they just ignore the facts? It’s unreal! I don’t get it! Omg. They are so brainwashed!
The Daily Mail is the liberal media …..???????? Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha – pause to catch breath – Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaaa.
Bangs head on table.
His deepest supporters secretly and not so secretly perhaps love Trump actions that discriminate against or remove people of color. They could be cheering the recent removal of undocumented mothers of children born in America. They want to see them all go. They yearn for a whiter America. Such actions make Trump seem ever stronger in their eyes and supersede even democracy and truth. If Trump lies … no big deal … the end justifies their bigger ideals.
Yup. It’s Nazi-level brainwashing that we’re dealing with from Trump supporters. Really scary.
Lots of very weak-minded Americans out there.
They are un and undereducated Americans mostly with a high school diploma or less who feel they as white males have been down trodden in society because all their factory-type jobs have gone overseas—because of people LIKE Trump. If we had a better trade school system like in Canada, there would be more people who had skills to be more viable in society.
When I read Trump articles on DM, I’m grossed out that almost all of the commenters support him. They’re not all from America, but they really seem to have their blinders on! The whole world can see what a monster he is, why don’t they?
We need many many MORE leaks that hopefully are coming down the pike. Some collusion with Russia seems obvious but somebody needs to bust the figurative dam like the one in California.
The last leak came on a Friday. Fingers crossed for tomorrow. Drip, drip, drip… 😉
Voters in Iowa – can’t you do something about your asshole, Steve King?
http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/319782-gop-rep-on-russia-intelligence-community-too-dishonest-to-accept-at
This is sooooo predictable of the orange bufoon; blame Hillary Clinton or President Obama. Did he really think being president was going to be a rose garden? Did he believe that his racist, sexist, misogynistic campaign tactics were going to bring no consequences?
Why are there no photos of baby fists grabbing at Bibi with his tiny paws?
I don’t believe Bibi feels warmly towards baby fists at all. I read that the Israeli intelligence community is seriously alarmed by baby fists’ slovenly handling of US intelligence and his obvious close personal ties to Putin. They don’t plan to do any sharing of important intel with the US government while baby fists is in power.
Bibi is a lot smarter than baby fists.
A little surprised myself that there was nothing about the handshake. Perhaps Donny is still feeling the burn of the last one? Doesn’t want to be seen losing again?
Great view of Baby Fists’ weird hair/bald patch situation in closeup photo of him and Bibi.
i give trump 6-8 weeks before he’s impeached or too “ill” to continue.
I listened to a really depressing podcast yesterday (yes I know I’m annoying with my constant podcast talk but I can’t get enough of them!) that featured Liz Holtzman, a former congresswoman and a key player in the Nixon impeachment.
Basically, Holtzman said it’s nearly impossible to impeach a president. She said that nothing we have thus far is enough for impeachment and that with the GOP ruling the House, it will be even more difficult.
Up until yesterday, I didn’t realize how much the thought of Trump being impeached was getting me through the day. Sigh.
Keep up the talk on podcasts, not annoying at all.
Thanks Swak lol. I have a podcast problem.
Yeah but that Newsweek article also claims that foreign intel is also investigating the a Trump Organization, so they have plenty of Intel on how to impeach the prez.
I hope you’re right, Eric, I really do.
There has to be the will of Congress to actually follow through. Nixon resigned instead of going through the impeachment process. And the GOP led House did impeach Clinton, but the Senate chose not to remove him from office. If it can be proven that Trump is in collusion with foreign governments (Putin), he can be impeached.
Right. Nixon resigned before he would have been impeached to save face, but his impeachment WAS an inevitability. Even then, it took overwhelming evidence and the GOP turning on him for that to happen.
In the history of the US presidency only Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton were impeached and both were acquitted by the Senate. I think that’s pretty indicative of how difficult it is to remove a president from office.
Clinton was impeached for lying about sex in the Oval Office. Trump making careless, dangerous mistakes. If someone can be impeached for fibbing about sex, Trump needs to go NOW before it’s too late. Clinton was a good president glad we got to keep him
Nixon got pretty far along into the impeachment process. The House vote was scheduled and there were enough votes in the Senate, including Republicans, that he would have been removed.
Which podcast was that? I too am obsessed with them.
Based on what we know now, she’s probably right, but I think there’s a LOT more to come out. Flynn got taken out in 24 days. If that can happen, you know there’s more.
True, and Holzman did say that there’s plenty of time for more evidence to come out but she really emphasized how difficult it is to impeach a president.
So have you ever read The Intercept (Greenwald’s thingie?)
They have a podcast called “Intercepted” that I have a love/hate (probably more hate than love) relationship with. Much like Greenwald, the host Jeremy Scahill goes hard on Obama and the Dems almost as frequently as he does Trump. I force myself to listen to it because I think it’s important for me to have a far-left progressive source that challenges my moderate/pragmatic liberal stance. That being said, I find it really infuriating at times. I don’t know…maybe I’m more of an Obama homer than I’d like to admit. :/
I do generally enjoy their guests though. They get some really interesting and thoughtful people on there.
Speaking of podcasts, the guest on today’s Fresh Air is Mahershala Ali, fyi. Good listen.
@ Kitten. The thing I’ve always loved about CB, long before I ever got up the nerve to post, were the intelligent recommendations, books, movies, tv, websites, etc. I say, keep ’em coming, everyone.
@ Kitten – There will be more, a lot more. There will be enough. Remember the GOP wants to keep power and get reelected.
Simmer down Drumpf. The impeachment word is being thrown around finally. Get ready to be fired. The stench of his corruption is too heavy to cover up.
Now this is interesting.
‘He will die in jail’: Intelligence community ready to ‘go nuclear’ on Trump, senior source says:
http://www.rawstory.com/2017/02/he-will-die-in-jail-intelligence-community-ready-to-go-nuclear-on-trump-senior-source-says/
I hope this is true…..the intelligence community can save us all from this reign of terror.
It’s not just the IC Emperor Zero need worry about. There’s an influential shadow government headquartered just two miles from the WH, led by Obama.
I don’t post links but The Federalist has an article posted about what is is, what it’s doing, and how it’s undermining the Nazi Administration.
Fingers crossed and praying hands!
Yeah I read it. The Pod Saves America guys are so awesome. Go Obama!
@Eric – thanks for the heads up on that. Just had a google and a read – (and the link for anyone interested):
https://thefederalist.com/2017/02/16/obamas-shadow-government-organizing-undermine-trump/
As you and Kitten say, fingers crossed, praying hands and Go Obama.
CHEETOBUTTMUNCH is doing this old saying throw a rock and hide your hand, he does not want any one to focus on what he actually did because he is more scared of his lover boy Puttycakes then he is of our intelligence, and he feels like he has broke down the Republicans because they put party over people. He could care less about us, the country, maybe more then his own family minus Ivanka. He feels he has power over us all because of a the 42 or less percentage who voted him in. The only way the Republicans will do anything is if they secretly want to replace him with Pence or Ryan, but for now they are more scared what he will say about them or has on them. The intelligence needs to drain the swamp of all its rats and we start over we clean up the inside. Also note that Puttycakes violated the agreement we had by lurking in our shores who knows maybe he has a missile aimed at us if Trump gets the boot. We The People need to flood them with impeachment request from the Senate to the house most especially the news and intelligence what matters most to them patriotism or allowing him one more day in there?
The thing about the republicans is that, they were hacked just like the Dems. We just don’t know what Russia has on them unlike the Dems. The republicans are probably trying to cover their asses just as much as tRump. So I don’t expect much from them as far as even replacing him goes. We need some people who actually care about this country and I dont see that in the republicans.
45 was certainly praising the work of Wikileaks and the Russian hackers for the email leaks during the campaign. He came out and asked Russia to release those “missing” emails too. It worked in his benefit. Now, all of them are low-lifes and must be brought to justice. It really is sickening.
So is it leaks or fake news, Baby Fists? Cause it can’t be both!
On a MUCH lighter note: Bibi’s suit needs to be tailored.
And context: I’m a defacto Israeli citizen (mom and grandparents) and am working on that paperwork. In addition, my family is looking to purchase a residence in Israel in case we need to flee. As I’ve mentioned before, my maternal grandparents fled Nazi Germany in time and my paternal grandparents not so much. Lesson learned.
I hear you. My MIL was hidden in Poland. These are some seriously scary times.
Gosh, Hannah, I’m so sorry. I don’t blame you one bit trying to keep your family safe. Good luck.
I am rooting so hard for the Intel community to take him and his not so merry band of thieves all the way down. Prison down. Where would we store treasonous government officials? Leavenworth? If so, Leavenworth down. I have full faith and confidence in them. I know they can do it even if Congress tries to throw up roadblocks. Once we the people have the full picture and all the facts, the Repubs are gonna have to fall in line. Or else there’s gonna be riots.
Anyway, this is not just a matter of protecting the American people. This is a matter of protecting innocent people all over the world who’ve been imperiled by America’s current f*ckery. They’re doing God’s work. I pray they can get ‘er done quickly. Let’s effin’ do this. Operation Impeachment!
I’m an avid reader of Celebitchy. I’m also a journalist and someone equally concerned about the Trump administration. But I come to this site not for political commentary, I come for escapism. I share most of your viewpoints, but it’s exhausting to come here to read news aggregation with all of the silly nicknames and two-cent opinions. We’re all worried about this presidency, but there are lots of places to read about it and share these views.
Please consider staying in your own lane, do what you do well and cover celebrities. If it is important to aggregate about dysfunction within the current administration, maybe set up a separate spin-off site.
Hmmmm … well look the other way then. There is plenty of celeb news here.
i just wanted to say that. Very easy to avoid political articles.
I also take exception to the “two-cents” opinion. Even if this reader is indeed a journalist, that does not give her the right to judge the comments here. For all I know she works for a home & garden section…..
Scroll and skip. Simple.
Signed,
A Silly Nickname’s Two Cents
There are 16 gossip threads today not to mention the links thread. Have at them. Some of us can multitask.
There’s still celeb gossip on this site. Don’t click on what you don’t want to read. How hard is that?? I do it and suffer no ill effects. Amazing, right?
What self centered whining and the gall to think you can dictate site content. Wow, people are just too much.
Why be annoyed, you have several threads to pick from: on the first page there are several that’s not political: Michael Fassbender; Scarlett johansson; Allison Williams; Yogi; Megan Markel; Britney Spars; Hurt Bae; and Rihanna. Don’t tell me you can’t find one you like.
I have a feeling you are annoyed because your so called president is In a world of trouble, just saying.
Bloody hell, you sound pompous.
Kellyanne, is that you?
@Annoyed Reader
My SO is high up in the news division (network, not, local) of one of the three major networks (eye, bird, mouse). Many friends are, too. I’m immersed in news day & night. I can’t escape it. I STILL appreciate CELEBITCHY and the posters for being so involved and committed.
I appreciate the dissemination of links, facts, ideas….if you don’t like a particular thread, I suggest you turn the channel.
BTW… democracy, freedom and the Constitution are everyone’s lane…. in this country.
+ 1,000
There are plenty of articles I avoid on here if I am not interested in the celebrity or the topic. Its very easy to skip it. I enjoy coming here for the political commentary because its one of the few sites where I can stomach the comments. I have actually visited this site more recently than ever before b/c I enjoy hearing what mostly sane and intelligent people have to say in this disastrous climate. Most sites are filled with Cheeto trolls and it makes me sick. Keep up the good work Celebitchy!
Trump is a celebrity. He’s got 22 actor credits on his IMDB page. He’s a reality TV host. So this site is covering a celebrity.
Also, I really appreciate the coverage here. I come here because I can vent about Trump and also LOL at Robert Pattinson’s wardrobe choices. It would be a little weird just posting gossip while acting like the country is in a really terrible sport right now.
If Trump had stayed in his own lane, he would still be covered here. In this country, we can change lanes.
Exactly. Very well said.
“do what you do well” Well actually, they do political commentary here at CB very, very well. Just ask the majority of posters, not to mention all the new ones that appreciate what they find here.
It’s because of your obvious disdain and pomposity of ordinary people writing, sharing and disseminating news- that has given news media a bad name. That has led to the charges of liberal elite and liberal media in many circles, which has caused people to turn away from mainstream media as a source of reputable information. And this reputation, whether well earned or not, has contributed to the rise of rage against the establishment thus contributing to the rise of fascism yet again and directly led to Orange Cheeto taking power in WH, despite being a liar and a cheat. Check your arrogance and superiority at the door Ms/Mr Annoyed So-called Journalist/Annoyed Reader. If the media people won’t do their job of aggressively pursuing Easy D, then let ordinary people do the job for you.
“I inherited a mess.” Media dishonest. Must take message directly to the people. I cannot believe what I am seeing on TV.
I know, it is cringeworthy watching him, he is a raving lunatic.
I thought my head would explode when that Orange Fool said “he inherited a mess.” No, Obama inherited a mess…this country was immersed in wars and headed over the cliff into a Depression and Obama pulled us up out of it. Where would the country be if Agent Orange had been President in 2008? I shudder to think.
Just want to post this information. RoguePOTUS is allegedly a bannon account to spread disinformation. Follow the thread.
http://twitter.com/pattonoswalt/status/832253789927149568
Thank you. I wondered about that account. Seems very plausible. Chilling.
Actually I don’t think its a fake account. -the “it’s Bannon” rumor = disinformation spread by Louise Mensch in retaliation for Rour POTUS staff refusing her request for an interview and to ID themselves to her. Read their whole thread. Louise has ties to Rupert Murdoch – has serious credibility issues.
Ugh, against my better judgment, I tried to listen to some of the ranting in this current “news” (read as “lies”) conference.
Why can’t he just die, already…and take the whole of the craven, treasonous, unpatriotic Republican party with him?
Hahahahaha…Stephanopoulos and the others on ABC can’t hide their smirks during their analysis.
I wish someone would put Easy D Twitler, his entire cabinet, Pence, McConnell and Ryan all aboard a modern day Titanic and let them sink into the ocean.
I’m done calling it a press conference. It’s propaganda dissemination, end of story.
Did he say a well-oiled machine?
😄
Alternate facts conference.
Yes, expose the truth aND may it take out trump, Pence & McConnell in one clean sweep. And if Chaffetz doesn’t probe deeper, take him too..and his kids too. I’m so tired of Ivanka at these top level cabinet meetings. Please lord include Bannon!!!!
I continue to be flabbergasted by Rump’s tweets. They really sound like a 12-year-old wrote them.
We’ve joked here about this “presidency” being a reality show, but now I think that’s exactly what it means to that imbecile. He doesn’t know how to do anything else. Every day he has a new episode to preside over as Orange Drama Queen.
But I am concerned about how long it’s going to take to
THROW THE BUMS OUT.
I receive the weekly magazine “The Week” which has articles on U.S. and world news. I also receive the Week’s online updates. Anyone can subscribe to these at not cost. This was one of today’s online articles which states that the doctor who wrote the clinical definition of narcissism does not apply to Trump. WHAT?????? THIS REALLY BUMS ME OUT that the doctor who wrote the clinical definition exempts Trump. I get what the doctor is saying, but still… Thoughts, please.
http://theweek.com/speedreads/680572/donald-trump-does-not-have-narcissistic-personality-disorder-says-doctor-who-wrote-clinical-definition
I saw that earlier and there was a big discussion about it. As I understand the outcome, the doctor was saying that Trump is a narcissist but he does not have NPD as a mental disorder (because a mental disorder doesn’t cause Trump any suffering or distress). No idea whether that’s right but he wasn’t saying Trump isn’t a narcissist.
In my experience with malignant NPD, Trump does not display the levels of Machiavellism and exploitation that are on par with NPD… People with true malignant NPD are extremely deliberate, controlled, and strategic. Things which Trump is not. Those with actual NPD are of the same psychological profile as serial killers. Their rage is often silent and they will never reveal their hand or show their true colors until it is much too late. Trump is too tactless basically and doesn’t seem to have an ideology or even a specific agenda he’s furthering but his own transparent self interest… NPD’s are obsessed with themselves too but they will very cleverly cloak this fact with some sort of projected sense of purpose at least. He shows some narcissistic tendencies like lying, gaslighting, blame shifting, etc. but he doesn’t have quite the degree of sadism or even the patina of self-control to be truly NPD from my observation. Like, Putin might actually have NPD and Diaper Bigly might have the girl interrupted version or something, it seems like. Please note their are many similarities between self obsessed, immature, assholes and people with NPD. NPD’s rely heavily on appearing normal, even warm, kind, generous and charming. Just my two cents. I’m not a psychologist.
This makes a lot of sense. In a similar vein, there’s been a lot of debate about whether he’s a clueless, bumbling idiot or evil and calculating. I’ve maintained all along that he’s more of an idiot than a truly evil guy. Thanks for your two cents.
Trump has all the markers for Hypomania, a milder form of bi-polar where the person swings between ‘normal’ and ‘up’ (manic) and never has the depressive ‘downs’.
Characteristic behaviours are extremely energetic, talkative, and confident commonly exhibited with a cascade of creative ideas, elevated mood, inflated ego. — except that they don’t significantly impact a person’s daily function and never include any psychotic symptoms.
Decreased need for sleep (e.g., feels rested after only 3 hours of sleep) Trump says he sleeps 4hours a night.
Very talkative , even feels a pressure to keep talking, often repeating the same phrases. They talk a good game and are often very Charismatic and convincing.
Inflated self-esteem or grandiosity
Flight of ideas or subjective experience , thoughts are racing, no reflection, the mind is never still or calm, thoughts jump from topic to topic
Distractibility (e.g., attention too easily drawn to unimportant or irrelevant external stimuli)
Increase in goal-directed activity (either socially, at work or school, or sexually) or psychomotor agitation
Excessive involvement in pleasurable activities that have a high potential for painful consequences (e.g., the person engages in unrestrained buying sprees, sexual indiscretions, or foolish business investments), usually accompanied by a disregard of consequences to self , family or others.
Compulusive risk taking
Irrational euphoria or heightened irritability, depending on how the sufferer percives a person/situation , (friend or foe).
Extremely outgoing and competitive, have a great deal of energy
Generally the condition is overlooked because the sufferers are fully functioning in their day to day lives and just seem like a ‘hyper’ person.
Hypomanic personalities are often very successful ‘a little madness means a lot of success’ but there will eventually come a tipping point resulting in a depressive or psychotic episode.
If the IC has proof of a medical diagnosis involving this or another mental disorder it may be enough to remove him from office.
There are plenty of others in the field who disagree with him about Trump. Such categorization of disorders is always in a state of flux, DSM diagnostic criteria keep changing in different editions and certain classifications can periodically vanish.
It seems most useful to me to consider narcissism as a spectrum ranging from benign to malignant, and it makes more sense to put Trump more on the malignant end. He has other problems, though, so it’s not a rigid assignment. He definitely is not normal, should never have the power of the Presidency, and must be hell to live with. He has shown serious disturbance since he was a young child.
Definitely if you listen to people talk about their entanglements with severe narcissists, the descriptions fit Trump very well. So reading up on that disorder and also to some degree milder forms of sociopathy can be useful in trying to figure Trump out. Just remember these categories are just useful conceptual frameworks to try to describe signs and symptoms that can occur together and are mainly helpful for people who have to cope with such folks within their families and workplaces. Extreme narcissists can drive people around them to therapy themselves….
I wouldn’t worry about whether or not he fits the current “mental illness” category. He is certainly impaired and wreaks havoc on working relationships. Something is wrong enough with his brain to cause problems for everyone around him. Don’t know if he was damaged in the womb or outside it by developmental deficiencies or both. But he is not fit to be President, that becomes clearer and clearer every day.
Also Trump just may not be very bright, so maybe he’s not as successful as other malignant narcissists for that reason. Or his other disorders interfere. He gives the illusion of business success because he started with so much money from his father. But if he had been born in more modest circumstances, he probably wouldn’t have made it very far and would have been locked up more than once. His father was able to put him into real estate, which should have been a guaranteed money maker but Trump still made dumb decisions. His father bailed him out many times with large cash injections. US banks won’t lend to him any more. He seems to be deteriorating the past few years also. His kids might be trying to keep him busy so he doesn’t have the opportunity to lose more of their inheritance.
He sat there saying RUSSIA NEEDS TO HACK HILLARY CLINTON’S EMAIL ACCOUNT, almost like he already KNEW that’s exactly what they were doing. of course, NOW he claims it was everyone else… not him. I keep trying to laugh at this asinine baboon, but the urge to punch face overwhelms me at times….. :/ and this is one of them. Has a Punching Donny Doll been invented yet???
I think you could make millions if you manufactured a trump doll that you could stick pins in. He is A CRIMINAL. Yes, he absolutely knew they were hacking Hillary’s emails. It is too specific to ever be a coincidence.
His constituency/supporters are eating it up. This is the lying POS they voted for, and, as far as they’re concerned, he nailed it in this press conference. This is his campaign mode/rhetoric.
Idiots.
I know. I continue to weep for humanity.
He can’t stay on message, though. Just keep him stirred up and his rage monster emerges. Plus, it’s early. He’s not going to turn around the economy. His policies are going to hurt people, even the Stupids who support him. Sooner or later, only the hardest core koolaid drinkers will remain.
You’d be amazed how tenacious stupid people can be. Stupid can’t learn; only ignorant can. Dunno… people laud Reagan.
My hopes for his impeachment are dwindling I can only hope the intelligence agency doesn’t roll over but finish blasting him with one big can of whoop orange butt.
See, and here I was thinking earlier this morning “it has sure been quite on the Trump news front compared to the last couple of weeks. Maybe I can start watching the news again.” Well, that thought didn’t last long. Later on in the day, CNN is doing a break down of his odd behavior at the press conference from this morning and now I’m reading this post. CAN WE NOT HAVE ONE WEEK WHERE HE ISN’T AN A**HOLE?! Just one week.
He’s just so crazy. I get why voters would be angry and want change but to vote for this ball of evil to get it? He’s been so privileged and surrounded by sycophants for long enough that he doesn’t seem to have any doubt about his behavior – it’s everyone else that has the problem. (Hello, DSM-5) ! It absolutely destroys me that kids today are witnessing this person in the highest office of our country and learning that it is, in any way, acceptable.
It kills me too but if it brings you any comfort, the kids I work with see him for what he is and mock him daily.
No disinformation at all in these court documents revealing what a douche bag father Presidential Advisor Steve Banno was as the father of twins to one of his ex-wives:
https://theopporeport.com/2016/12/02/the-bannon-files-divorce-records-reveal-marital-discord-and-questionable-parenting/
Who would ever want this jerk participating in any important decision making process when his own decisions were so absolutely and consistently poor?
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Here’s the story on Netanyahu, his wives, and his personality – which sounds eerily similar to Trump’s in many ways:
http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/netanyahus-women/
Fox News’ Shepard Smith hammers Trump:
https://mobile.twitter.com/RiegerReport/status/832335085961633792?s=04
Tides are turning??