Winona Ryder still isn’t over Johnny Depp

Winona Ryder is Elle-UK’s June cover girl (story via People), and the interview is a little wacky. Maybe “wacky” is the wrong word… I guess I’ve always considered Winona a strange bird, and it’s weird hearing her talk about some of the issues she’s had with boys and fame. My view of Winona was formed before all of that shoplifting stuff, and it’s hard to describe how hot, cool, sexy, and “It” Winona was in the mid to late 1990s (to me at least). I don’t really think Winona’s a bad person, she just comes across as screwed up in this interview – screwed up and drowning in self-pity. She talks about her “first real break-up” and how it sucked really hard. She doesn’t say the name “Johnny Depp” but who else could she be talking about?

For the past seven years, Winona Ryder has lived mostly out of the spotlight.

Now, with a role in Star Trek and the release of another movie – The Private Lives of Pippa Lee – opening in Europe soon and in the U.S. in the fall, the actress, 37, is talking about the strain of being in the public eye.

Ryder, who was engaged to Johnny Depp after co-starring with him in 1990’s Edward Scissorhands (they split when she was 19), says one of her first big challenges was dealing heartache during the height of her fame.

“I had just done Dracula and Edward Scissorhands. I had just had my first real break-up, the first heartbreak,” she tells Pippa Lee director Rebecca Miller, who interviewed her for the U.K. edition of Elle, out Wednesday.

“And I think it was really ironic because, like, everybody else just thought I had everything in the world, you know, I had no reason to be depressed, everything was sort of at its peak, but inside I was completely lost.”

“I remember feeling, ‘I can’t complain about anything, because I’m so lucky, I’m so lucky.’ After that I realized I needed to take time off more [regularly].”

These days, Ryder says, she has more balance in her life. In the last five years, she says, “I have really tried to develop a whole life so when I work I can come home to something [else].”

She adds, “I would freak out when I wasn’t working yet I was exhausted, so I had to learn to take care of myself.”

Ryder says she admires Kate Winslet for her ability to have it all. “During the Oscars, I was thinking about how she totally has that thing, she has her family and children and life and she seems really together and solid – and yet she can completely devastate you on the screen.”

Ryder hasn’t lost the edginess that made her the Generation X poster girl. She tells the magazine that she always thought it was “cooler to be interesting than to be pretty” and that, she “never wanted to be beautiful, I never wanted to be a cheerleader.”

[From People]

Oh, Johnny. I think he’s one of those guys who is really difficult to get over. Neither Winona nor Kate Moss seemed to ever be the same after they had a taste of Johnny and his magical age-defying non-existent beer gut. After Johnny, Winona dated Matt Damon and a string of random indie singers/musicians (she was totally doing that before cough, cough copycat Drew Barrymore). I wonder why Winona didn’t quit the industry when she had the shoplifting trial – she obviously thinks she’s so fragile, it’s a wonder she didn’t pull a Greta Garbo. But I am glad she’s having some kind of comeback – she was always a talented, underrated actress. Although I still haven’t forgiven her for Little Women. Winona was the lamest Josephine March ever.

Winona Ryder and Johnny Depp are shown in the header at the Golden Globes in 1994. Credit: Bauergriffinonline. Winona Ryder is shown alone on 5/4/09 and 4/30/09. Credit:

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  1. Sauronsarmy says:

    Yeah well if Johnny Depp dumped me I’d probably have a hard time getting over it too.

  2. Annie says:

    Wait, how does that imply she’s not over it? To say it was hard?

    My first real break-up was hard, but that doesn’t mean I’m not over it lol.

    Although I can’t deny that Johnny is dreamy. 🙂

  3. Sauronsarmy says:

    Also are you kidding? That verison of Little Women was awesome!

  4. Shelly Shellz says:

    I dont like the way she’s aging at all

  5. Dorothy says:

    that version of Little women sucked big time!!! I would have a hard time getting over Johnny but I would still be happy to have had sex with him. That would keep me going!!!

  6. Anna says:

    Nowhere in there does she imply that she isn’t over Johnny Depp. Your title is completely misleading. She is merely relating how she felt at the time, heart-broken. She doesn’t even mention any kind of getting over Johnny. I also see no self-pity in there. She is actually being refreshingly self-deprecating in a way, admitting that she had troubles living for anything else but her work. I always thought of Ryder as a bit stuck up (and I don’t condone the shoplifting thing at all) but she is downright charming when she talks about Kate Winslet.

  7. Pufft says:

    The more important question here is: who has ever gotten over Johnny boy? The guy is like fine wine, he gets better with age. I always think that had I ever dated him, he would probably be one of those guys that could give me a booty call anytime and I’ll oblige every single time.

    Yes, I’m sorely whipped for Johnny boy.

  8. Ggirl says:

    Ol’ Johnny seems to really do a number on women. First Winona and then Kate Moss and Gosh knows who else. I have always cheered for Winona though. She was very popular when I was younger. I read somewhere (Lainey) that the demise of her relationship with Matt Damon also through her for a loop. Winona is probably a very vunerable person with a lot of talent but needs to watch partaking of wicked substances and toxic men.

  9. ash says:

    aw, I liked her in Little women. Christian Bale (swoon)!

    Man, she’s certainly rocking the elf look at the Star Trek Premiere.

  10. Dani says:

    Greta Garbo? Fragile? She was mysterious and was tired of people trying to pry into her life. I think that’s why she dropped away from the spotlight and movies. There’s nothing wrong with being a private person after making your money.

  11. Jess says:

    Yea, I have to say she doesn’t come across as weird in this excerpt. I think she’s just honest about the challenges she dealt with as a young, very famous woman. I think she actually sounds very normal. And she doesn’t sound like she’s still hung up on Johnny Depp.

  12. Candi says:

    Poor Winona Ryder *sarcasm*

    Seriously,she needs to move on with her life.

    Another thing,she needs to pick some better movie scripts to read,because the last few movies she did were real stinkers.

  13. BlahBlah says:

    Joh… *drool* …nny… *drool* I know if I’m to comment I should say something about Winona, but all I’m thinking is Johnny… oooooh Johnny! *drool*

  14. schwing says:

    i’ve had the hots for johnny since 21 jump street. i don’t see who could ever get over him.

  15. clare says:

    ‘These days, Ryder says, she has more balance in her life. In the last five years, she says, “I have really tried to develop a whole life so when I work I can come home to something [else].”’

    So, what was she doing for 5 years?

  16. Cinderella says:

    I thought she was the one that dumped Johnny. Either way, she’s always been a little off, even at her peak. Beautiful, but definitely off.

    With Timothy Leary as her godfather, her childhood must have been unique to say the least.

  17. ChristinaT says:

    this interview doesn’t really seem wacky at all… all the disclaimers seemed misleading… that’s kind of how depression is… you have no reason to be unhappy but you just are…

    anyway, glad she’s doing well.

  18. Mary says:

    She was recently in the very funny direct to dvd Sex & Death 101 starring The Mentalist’s Simon Baker. I will always think Winona Ryder is awesome. If you’re a naysayer, just watch Reality Bites.

  19. Kaiser says:

    I thought she seemed like she wasn’t over it because she’s still talking about the split and it’s been nearly 20 years.

    And that version of Little Women sucked HARD. Not even Bale (as Laurie!?!?) could save it. I prefer the old version, with Elizabeth Taylor.

  20. Iggles says:

    Um, this title rings false.

    Nowhere in the interview does it say she’s still not over him. Geez, why do magazines and bloggers try to make every single woman seem desperate?

  21. Neelyo says:

    37?!? I think someone stole a few years off her birth certificate.

    I always thought she was beautiful, but a limited actress with a horrible voice.

  22. hannah says:

    man, depp looks so lit in that picture…not there at all.

  23. GrnMtGirl says:

    I know that I’ll never be able to get over Johnny…

  24. Ophelia says:

    Gah! The title is really misleading. She doesn’t sound like that at all. It’s not snarky/bitchy to just make huge leaps and disparaging inferences from an interview that doesn’t even suggest she’s not over him; it’s just incorrect.

  25. cakes says:

    Kaiser you can acknowledge a break up was hard WITHOUT being obsessed with the person you broke up with. You’re really reaching on this one.

  26. sarah says:

    I wouldn’t be over him either

  27. lrm says:

    okay,so i got that she felt depressed b/c she was heartbroken,but didn’t feel like she was entitled to be sad/depressed,b/c she was successful.
    AND,I got that,like many young people,and some not so young folks,if they are not working or with friends,they are anxious and uneasy.
    SO,I got that she decided to create a life,so that work was not her life.

    Pretty straightforward,and doesn’t seem like she’s not over Depp.
    If anything,maybe she’s not over the shoplifting and swift dive her career took-even if she chose to stay out of the spotlight.

    But,I don’t know…
    Michelle williams has said she’s happy making 300k a year doing indie films…and maybe that’s winona,too.
    I love that MW said this-so reasonable! Perspective is everything,you know?

  28. meow mix says:

    Kaiser I am very disappointed. I usually look forward to your witty articles but you really phoned this one in.

    Ditto Anna

  29. Bodhi says:

    * I don’t see how anyone could possibly get over Johnny. I know I never will & I haven’t slept with him (yet. muhahahah!)

    * Ya know I love ya Kaiser, but wtf? That Little Women was awesome!! I think Winona was perfect as Jo March! Oh & Bale! Le sigh… thats when I fell in love with him… (btw, have you read “March” by Geraldine Brooks? Its AMAZING!)

  30. Orangejulius says:

    Yeah, Kaiser, I love ya too, but I didn’t see any self-pity here…and it’s something I’m well acquainted with…

  31. Juniper Pearl says:

    He wanted to marry her, but her family told her she was too young and they broke up. He swore she was “the” girl for him and was so heartbroken over the breakup that his friends were afraid to leave him alone.

  32. He has children with another woman time to move on Jennifer Aniston I mean Wynona Ryder.

  33. Dingles says:

    Um, did we read the same article?

  34. Lee says:

    I’m not over him yet, either, and not sure if I ever will be. The only saving grace that is that David Bowie was my first major starcrush, and this somehow proofed me against future heartache.

  35. Best of British says:

    I also agree she’s a limited actress. And I know it wasnt a meaty role or anything but I absolutely LOVE the Aliens franchise and she completely ruined the one she was in. Her voice is so monotone and slow and she just needs more energy. You got it right calling her lame.

    You know I bet she rarely laughs. She’s one of these people that likes to think its better to be cool, deep, meaningful, complicated, blah but people like that miss the point – they should just get on with it and put a smile on and take gratitude and enjoyment in the simple things in life. They’re all that matters really – good wine, good food and great company. Reading a good book, watching a movie, going out for the day with someone you love. A quiet life is a fulfilling life. Johnny got it right moving to France – he’s found all of the above.

    • Janice says:

      “A quiet life is a fulfilling life”.

      What a Beautiful and true thing to say. I’ve always been told that I look like her, but that is about as far as it goes. I always thought she was a bit stuck up and whinny. She has so much to be thankful for and all she does is complain. Celebrities are SOO Weird!

  36. skye says:

    I loved her in “Little Women”!

  37. Lee says:

    I loved her in Little Women too. I did get around to reading the books and honestly I found the book very boring. The movie was awesome.

  38. Bodhi says:

    Boring?!?! The books are wonderful!

  39. daisy424 says:

    Agree Bodhi, one of my favorites.
    I have an antique collection of all Alcott’s books.
    My Grandkids call me Marmee.

  40. ziner13 says:

    Are you kidding – she had Johnny? I’d be be smiling big,lucky girl!

  41. Lisa says:

    Winona is beautiful.

  42. jaehan says:

    do you think she is just using johnny depp to make a comeback? do you remember the last cover magazine she’s in, she also stated about johnny depp that time was she
    would have married johnny depp if her father don’t stop the wedding!!

  43. adictaDEEP says:

    yo creo que johnny era mucho para ell el es unico hermoso no lo merecias winona

  44. Tasha says:

    I thought she was wonderful in Little Women. She’s a very talented actress and I’m glad her career isn’t over.

  45. Ashly says:

    I admire her and I don’t think she was stating she wasn’t over Johnny at all.
    Personally I loved them as a couple and I wish somehow they would have made it.
    Little Women was a fantastic movie and she is an amazing actress, I loved Girl Interrupted.
    I’d like to see her in more things.

  46. Angela says:

    I’m pretty sure Johnny Depp said it was Winona who broke up with him. Can’t remember why, or what interview.