Kelly Osbourne: in gay relationships ‘there’s always a masculine & feminine role’

Kelly Osbourne during an appearance on NBC's 'Late Night with Seth Meyers.'
Kelly Osbourne is a special snowflake who considers herself the exception to every rule. When she came out with her lyme disease diagnosis she shaded other celebrities for opening up about suffering from lyme. Kelly wrote, in her new memoir out next week, that “since I know firsthand how awfully debilitating it is, I know who really has it and who is just trying to prolong their 15 minutes.” So having lyme disease has made Kelly Osbourne a doctor. Many of you thought that she was shading Bella Hadid, which is probably the case, although Avril Lavigne also comes to mind. Anyone Kelly doesn’t like can’t possibly have the same life experiences as she does, they must all be faking.

So it’s not surprising to hear that Kelly feels the same way about her sexuality. She doesn’t define herself as bisexual and says she’s never been in a relationship with a woman, but that she’s open to falling in love with whomever. When other famous women do that, date women and men publicly, they’re setting the LGBT community back, according to Kelly. Also she has some really horrible things to say about gender roles in gay relationships. She’s awful.

Are you open to loving a woman?
I’m open to loving anybody. It’s about the person. I don’t think it’s about sexuality at all.

Last year, your mother revealed she would have been open to being with women earlier in her life. What have you learned about yourself from her regarding sexuality?
I told her, “Would you be the butch one? Come on, tell me, which one would you be?” Because whether it’s man and man, woman and woman, there’s always a masculine and feminine role. So I’m always like, “Mom, which one would you be?” And she’s like, “Oh, shut up, Kelly!”

But it’s not like I’m trying to be forward-thinking or progressive – it’s just that sexuality is a word I try not to even define the way the world defines it. It’s the person who you are sexually attracted to.

Do you not label your sexuality, then?
My whole rule is, never say never. I’ve never been in a relationship with a woman, but I don’t know that it’s not a possibility. But I also don’t like it when people claim to be gay and then not. There’s this whole generation of young Hollywood girls who can’t find love where they think it’s supposed to be, and then they come out being gay and two weeks later they have a boyfriend. It drives me nuts! I think it takes all the proactive work the LGBT community has done and sets them back. Oh, so now you’re gay? Then two weeks later: “Oh no, that was just a phase.” You don’t get to do that.

I’ll tell you who’s the worst with it: young female celebrities. And I’m like, I know you. I’ve known you pretty much since before you used to shit outside of a diaper. You are not gay! But I think outing somebody in that way is just as bad as outing somebody who has not come out of the closet. It’s one of those things I have to keep to myself… and it drives me fucking crazy! I’ve marched till my feet bled for the right of equal love in the gay community, and you’re just gonna step in because it looks cool for you and now tell everybody that you’re a lesbian when you’ve never even seen another puss that’s not yours so you can get attention?

[From Pridesource via Huffington Post]

Read what Kelly said here. “I know you. I’ve known you pretty much since before you used to shit outside of a diaper. You are not gay!” The women/woman Kelly is referring to who also dates men may not be gay, they’re bisexual. Kelly is talking about Bella Thorne, right? Maybe those famous bisexual women are just living their lives in public and Instagramming everything like they normally do. Bisexual women can date around and fall in love with a man. That doesn’t make them inauthentic or switching from gay to straight and that doesn’t mean they’re setting the LGBT community back. People understand that bisexuality doesn’t mean either monogamous or promiscuous, and that those kind of expectations are what set us back, not the behavior of celebrity women. That kind of higher level understanding escapes Kelly, because it’s all about her and she’s always superior, especially when she holds a petty grudge and she has a lot of them.

It’s also horrible to say “would you be the butch one?” Of course all relationships don’t have masculine and feminine roles that’s nonsense. I initially read Huffington Post’s coverage of Kelly’s interview, which focused on her bisexuality, which she refuses to define or even say is a valid orientation, instead claiming in a roundabout way that other women can’t be bisexual, only her. I thought that was bad enough. Then I read the full interview, the worst parts of which I’m quoting above although there’s more, and she said even more offensive things. So I don’t know where to start with her, she’s just an idiot and an asshole.

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  1. Shambles says:

    F*ck her. There is literally no reason to give any credence to anything she says because she doesn’t actually do anything that matters.

    All. She. Does. Is sit and bitch about things that she thinks will make her sound cool or intelligent. She’s infuriating.

    And f*ck her ignorant, stereotype-perpetuating ideas on gender roles. I hate her, honestly.

    • minx says:

      She’s a spoiled bratty grifter with no discernible talents. I don’t know why people pay her to do anything.

    • vespernite says:

      She is a complete asshole! I agree, F*#$% her!

    • Moronica says:

      It’s too bad she’s not cool like her older sister. Amy has never forced her presence on all of us! Go away, Kelly. Stop trying to “prolong your 15 minutes of fame.”

    • MrsBadBob says:

      She’s the worst. I cannot understand why she has a career. She is a bully, she’s ill-informed and arrogant. And about as inauthentic as a person can be. I dislike everything about her. As usual, her big mouth tells you all you need to know, a judgey know-it-all, who just can’t help making some nasty innuendo.

  2. Caitriona says:


  3. Darkladi says:

    Speaking of prolonging one’s 15 minutes…

  4. Dragonlady Sakura says:

    STFU! You’re like nails down a chalkboard. 😡

  5. Brown says:

    this is ignorant at best. she needs to stop talking, forever. you said it best: she has a million rules for what others can/can’t do, but none of them apply to herself.

    the human embodiment of “UGH”

  6. Missy says:

    For someone with no talent she sure thinks a lot of herself….I have Lyme disease so I know all these other people don’t…I’m bisexual, never been with a woman but I know all these other women aren’t actually bisexual…..seriously? Who does she think she is? Does she even hear herself

    • MrsBadBob says:

      Yeah, doctors have a hard time diagnosing Lyme, but she can tell, she knows who’s been bitten by ticks, just by looking, she should be in Ripley’s Believe it or not. Amazingly, her gaydar also works this way.

  7. Lucy says:

    And to think I used to see her as cool and inspiring because of how she’d handled her addiction problems…shame.

  8. Beth says:

    How does she know this “fact “? Does she know every gay couple in the world?

  9. amp122076 says:


  10. Cran says:

    #ImWithSharon Shut up Kelly

  11. third ginger says:

    DISGUSTING!! I always talk about my gay daughter on CB. On her behalf, let me say there are no “roles”, only people. If a Dlist “celebrity” has to talk this crap to be relevant, she is more pathetic than I thought.

    • Beth says:

      I’m not gay, but if I was, hope my mom would be as supportive and proud as you always are of your daughter. That’s awesome. I’d rather hear what you have to say than Kelly.

    • Justme says:

      This woman is just trying to stay in the news and shall henceforth be referred to by me as ‘she who shall not be named’ because I refuse to reward that type of behavior.
      Third ginger, I’m starting a club and I’ll call it Mothers of Beautiful Lesbian Daughters Against Ignorant Loudmouths. We’ll have the shirts that say MOBLDAIL.

  12. DiamondGirl says:

    Yes, Kelly, you are bisexual in the fact that neither women nor men want to be with you.

  13. Giddy says:

    Silly me. I thought that everyone had free will and that they could experiment and find out who they were, who they loved, who they wanted to spend their lives with. I didn’t realize that Kelly Osborne has to pass judgment on all. This girl is crass, rude and stupid, and I wish people would quit interviewing her and adding to her ego. But at least I can ignore her, and I usually do.

  14. detritus says:

    If you took all of Kelly’s soundbites, and just presented them as is, with no reference, I would think she was a 17 year old boy.

  15. Beth says:

    If it “drives her nuts” to hear someone say they’re gay then end up with a boyfriend, then she should mind her own business. Don’t pay attention, Kelly. Go away. I totally agree with Sharon saying “oh shut up,Kelly”. She should listen to her mom and shut up

  16. pru says:

    I want receipts on the feet bleeding.

  17. jugil1 says:

    Remember this is the same fool who said last year on The View that Donald Trump needed Mexicans (her words) to clean his toilets.

    She’s a complete fool. She’s a self absorbed, privileged brat who doesn’t have a clue how the “real world” works. She was born in a privilege bubble & apparently still lives in one.

    • Pumpkin Pie says:

      Thinking of privileges, did she use her money on a degree by any chance? It doesn’t look like it. What is she doing with her life? Honest question.

      • third ginger says:

        Pumpkin Pie, you hit on one of my pet outrages [too strong to call it a peeve] That is wealthy celebrities who won’t spend a dime on education while so many kids work so hard and are burdened with debt.

      • jugil1 says:

        Right Pumpkin Pie! Instead of educating herself or using her privilege to help others, she insists on bullying & shaming others with whom she doesn’t agree or like.

      • Otaku Fairy says:

        Actually, she was a high school drop-out. (Or at least that’s the last thing I heard about her education). It’s one thing when kids with more valid reasons/extenuating circumstances do that, but when people like her or Kylie Jenner do that I sort of get a little judgy.

  18. BobaFelty says:

    She’s gross. That kind of thinking about bisexuals was big in the early 90s, but most people are more educated and knowledgable about lgbt issues these days. There is a wider spectrum than ‘lipstick lesbian’ and ‘butch’.

    However, I hate to say that I agree with Kelly on anything, but…I do think many people self-diagnose themselves (lyme disease, fibromyalgia, gluten intolerance, etc). These diseases are tough to get a correct diagnosis with medical help, let alone just using WebMd. More importantly, others cant really dispute you have it since they can’t visibly see most symptoms (e.g., tired, headaches, body aches). I think sometimes…for celebrities especially, it’s easier to say you have Lyme than go into a discussion about a disease with more stigma attached to it like depression or other mental health issues. But I get why it’s easier to say “by no fault of my own, a tick bit me and gave me these symptoms” (e.g., external blame) rather than “my body chemistry and brain are giving me these symptoms” (e.g., internal blame and guilt).

  19. Skins says:

    Why would anybody interview her anyway? She just keeps throwing stuff out there hoping something will stick and get her some attention. Go away Ozzy’s daughter

  20. Jennifer says:

    OK, as a bisexual woman I do actually get this one a lot. I think it’s a widespread misconception.

    The root of ideas like this, I think, is misguided ideas about what “masculine” and “feminine” actually mean. People tend to use them interchangeably for “dominant” and “submissive”, which is not how gender roles work. In reality, the power interchanges in relationships of all kinds, gay and straight, are fluid and require negotiation. We are also fed the idea that relationships have to follow this kind of gendered dom-sub binary in order to be successful, which isn’t true either.

    Queer people all have their own ways of interpreting gender markers (which were all made for straight people) and how they relate to power and control, and those are what feed into their relationships. There is no “who’s the dude” or “who’s the femme”. Even if people ask all the goddamn time when they don’t believe it’s immediately “clear” .

    • MrsBadBob says:

      I don’t know your age, but I am a straight, married 50 year old woman, and my first “playing doctor” experience in life was with another girl, who I know today is a happily married lesbian. I know there are a lot of people who do have weird ideas about same sex relationships, but I also think there are plenty of people like me, who have had some sexual exploration and recognize that we’re all just people. Kelly is only representing her ignorance and arrogance, and youth, and I don’t think like her at all and I think I’m not alone. Even my 80 year old mother would not ask “who’s the dude?”

  21. Lisa says:

    Oh cute, someone who isn’t part of a group trying to speak for that group. We don’t need you, Kelly.

  22. Pumpkin Pie says:

    I don’t think she cares about LGBT issues, not one bit. Imo she carries her I don’t even know how to call it, “support”, “advocacy”, as a flag to attract some kind of appeal. She pretty much proves lack of knowledge and intelligence in this regard.

  23. Turtle says:

    I’m bisexual. I try to cut our allies like Kelly a lot of slack. She’s willing to speak up and we need straight allies (I don’t believe she’s bisexual for a second; she’s just being contrarian). But it’s like she spends ZERO time thinking about these issues between interviews and it can end up doing more harm than good and invalidating anything else you might want to say. She’s also learned at the foot of her mother, who periodically starts fires to generate headlines and sell things.

    • Bethy says:

      I would say she’s pansexual or demisexual if she’s not hung up on what gender her partner is. But the gender roles? Shut up, Kelly. Way to stereotype.

    • MrsBadBob says:

      I’m straight, and IMO she is not helping the cause by claiming she can tell who is pretending for attention or whatever, because she brings the questionabilty to the issue. Who is she, or anyone to doubt someone else’s bi-sexuality, whatever their motivation. This is not her issue, that she owns, in any way, and it is inappropriate for her to claim any insight, that she clearly does not have.

  24. Neelyo says:

    Like her mother, she just can’t stand being out of the limelight for a few seconds and will say anything for attention.

  25. Who ARE These People? says:

    So if she’s an idiot and an asshole can we just stop covering her please? Instead just keep covering the idiot and asshole who could blow up the world instead.

  26. sauvage says:

    “But it’s not like I’m trying to be forward-thinking or progressive”.

    Don’t worry, Kelly. Nobody is ever going to accuse you of either.

    • justcrimmles says:

      Or intelligent, well read, coherent, compassionate… I don’t know the proper term for drug addicts/abusers being mentally stuck at the age they began abusing, but she’s clearly still mentally a teenager.

      • sauvage says:

        I would bring up the n-word. There is A LOT of narcissism in this one.

        As somebody mentioned up-thread: She grew up with the means to achieve an excellent educatio, and she’s doing no such thing. Instead, she’s just busying herself with giving her uninformed opinion on anything and anyone, in between beefing publicly with various people. What a vapid existence.

  27. I Choose Me says:

    Synopsis: Kelly Osbourne is an idiot and asshole.

    I don’t usually waste my energy actively disliking anyone but I’ll make an exception for her. Oh how I long for the moment she’s no longer being interviewed and given a platform to spew her particular brand of self-centered bullshite.

    • sauvage says:

      I’ll step in disliking her whenever you need to take time off to, I don’t know, do laundry. Deal?

    • MrsBadBob says:

      I feel so much better knowing others dislike her as much as I do. Mostly I try to be a nice and tolerant person but I really do dislike her a lot.

  28. Cee says:

    The sad thing about this is that so many people think like her and it is terrible.

  29. Ana says:

    Ugh. I hate that stereotype about “the man and the woman” in homosexual relationships. I’m always scolding my mom when she refers to a lesbian couple as “she’s the man in the relationship”. But at least my mom is an older lady who grew up in a conservative environment and has never had a real conversation with a gay person. Kelly Osbourne must know quite a few people in the community to at least be a little more educated and sensitive.

  30. Spunk says:

    I’m a man who’s in a relationship with a man and neither of us is playing no bloody role. we are just two men who love each other. It’s that simple. It makes me mad when people spew garbage like that or when they ask who the ‘girl’ is.

    To put it out there,I have no problem with feminine men. I just hate stereotypes…especially from someone like her who works in the entertainment industry and probably with lots of people who identify in many different ways.

    A lot of gay women hate this too. “The one with shorter hair is the man”,”She wears pants a lot,she is the one who changes light bulbs”…utter nonsense.

    The more she speaks the more ignorant and insulting she gets. I’m enough of her.

    • Pinetree13 says:


    • third ginger says:

      Thanks for a great post. My daughter [she’s the one with the short hair . LOL] and her girlfriend have gotten this crap over the four and a half years they have been together. My hope is that the imposition of these gender norms dies away. I am 64 and might not live to see it.

  31. rg says:

    My two cents, as this is something I’ve thought about a lot. I’m a queer woman, I’ve been in relationships with non-bianary people, an ftm trans guy, as well as people who fall more into the traditional “lesbian” category in terms of identification and representation, as I do. I’ve been in relationships in which I’m more “butch” by societal standards and ones in which I would be considered more the “femme” partner. Negotiating these things stinks. In my own mind don’t feel “femme,” I don’t feel “butch.” I feel like myself. Everyone does. There’s an internal pressure to fill these roles and it feels really awkward and inorganic. Sometimes of course I relish fixing the car, building the cabinet, filling the traditional masculine provider roles, and sometimes of course I relish being the girlfriend with the soup for you or the sexy panties, but these are things I work out for myself and with my partner. Its actually scary when you realize that you’re playing a role and you don’t know for who, or that you’re acting the way you are to meet an expectation that doesn’t come from yourself or your partner, but from societal gender roles. Its disturbing. What K Osborne says here could be reworded as “in all traditional relationships there’s an expectation that one play a masculine or feminine role.” These constructs are harmful in hetero relationships as well, its just more normalized and the seams less apparent. We can all benefit from investigating the basis of these gender roles instead of mindlessly preforming. We’re all complicated beings and these are our lives we’re inside of, we can allow one another much more nuance than this. Equal rights describes a space where we’re all allowed our complexities, not when we all have equal access to the same hollow roles.

  32. BJ says:

    She is an idiot.
    That’s all.

  33. Otaku Fairy says:

    Where to even begin with this girl’s ignorance? L.O.L. I have no clue if the starlet she’s blind-iteming/shading is actually Bella Thorne, (who gets the predictable misogynistic response any women get when they come out as bisexual or pansexual without first living up to all the respectability politics surrounding both ‘classy female’ behavior/image AND being the idealized, always-right, always-woke, saintly, androgynous version of bisexuality that some liberals imagine) or if she’s talking about some other starlet, since I don’t really know if Bella Thorne is someone who grew up with her or not. Kelly has had exposure to a lot of starlets in her lifetime. But Kelly comes across like someone who speaks more from stereotypes than things she actually knows from other people who live what she’s talking about- from her comments about Latinos and cleaning toilets, to her comments about masculinity and femininity in same-sex relationships, to her comments about bisexual women. As a bisexual woman: Just no, Kelly, not all lesbian/bisexual couples with women are like Sailor Uranus and Sailor Neptune. And it’s a good thing she didn’t ‘out’ whoever this girl is, because it doesn’t sound like she’s qualified to even be commenting on it and would probably end up slandering this girl. Sex/relationships with men don’t cancel out attraction to, feelings for, or history with women when someone is BI- or PAN-sexual, and vice-versa. Unless she’s with this girl 24/7, she’s not really qualified to speak on this person’s attractions, feelings, or history.

  34. MrsBadBob says:

    She’s an idiot and an asshole. Also, there is nothing wrong with exploring your sexuality and making out with whoever you feel like, whenever the mood strikes you, whatever your age, life is not supposed to be lived inside lines drawn by society. Being straight doesn’t mean I’ve never kissed a girl and I don’t have to explain myself to anyone just because I don’t fit their stupid ignorant prejudices.