Did Pippa Middleton not allow Prince Harry & Meghan Markle to sit together?

The wedding of Pippa Middleton and James Matthews

I’m still catching up on all of the gossip from Pippa Middleton’s weekend wedding, which some people are really trying to make into “the wedding of the year.” Apparently, no expense was spared, there was “£40,000 Russian caviar, supped magnums of expensive Champagne and some even enjoyed a game of ping-pong with seven-time Wimbledon champion Roger Federer.” Pippa also enforced a strict “no photos” policy for the reception, so we probably won’t see social media photos popping up, although my guess is that Pippa has already sold a bunch of exclusives to Hello Magazine. The Daily Mail broke down the alleged costs of the wedding – it probably set the Matthews family and the Middletons back something like £500,000, not including the rings.

As for the continued gossip about Meghan Markle’s appearance, sources tell The Sun that Meghan likely decided not to attend the church part of the wedding because of Prince Harry’s general fondness for Pippa…? Sources told The Sun: “Harry is extremely fond of his sister-in-law. They had a wonderful time at Kate and William’s wedding. He knew this was all about Pippa’s big day and he and Meghan jointly decided they didn’t want to upstage her. Harry went all the way back to London to get Meghan and bring her to the party.”

Sources also claim that Meghan made a “fashion faux pas” by wearing “a long black dress to the wedding with a white jacket.” As in, she wore black to a wedding (reception). Which… is that a problem? I don’t see why that would be a problem. There are also some sources claiming that for the formal dinner part of the reception, Pippa arranged the seating charts so that couples would not be seated next to each other. Meaning, Meghan and Harry didn’t get to sit next to each other? I’ve heard of that rule for events like state dinners, although the Obamas changed that rule when they were in office, and they allowed couples to be seated with each other. For a wedding though… I’m sorry, you should be allowed to sit with your date! Jesus.

Oh, and the Daily Mail now says that Harry did not in fact drive back to London to pick up Meghan. Their sources claim that Harry and Meghan drove to Berkshire together on Saturday morning and rented a suite at Engelfield House, the same place where Pippa’s “wedding breakfast” would happen. Sources claim that Harry simply drove to Engelfield House to pick up Meghan and take her to the reception. Which would make a lot more logistical sense.

The wedding of Pippa Middleton and James Matthews

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  1. MunichGirl says:

    So many sources, it’s hilarious.

    • my3cents says:

      Yes, they’re all just shooting hoping something sticks.

    • imqrious2 says:

      Truly, another “source” had MM in a backless maroon dress. Another “source” said Kate drew the pic of the church that was on the cover of the Order of Service (although considering the snail she painted (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2013228/Kate-Middleton-races-ahead-painting-Inner-City-Arts-campus.html), I highly doubt it 😊

    • TLK says:

      Ohhhh more gossip. =The Percy clan, George, Duke and Duchess parents were invited months ago, but snubbed it. Instead they threw a big party for daughter Missy at the Castle. George Percy didn’t go to Pippa’s big day. LOL

      That’s one family Carole hasn’t been able to crack , that she’s been chasing for years. The Percy’s.

      • LAK says:

        George P went to the daytime church and reception before decamping to his sister’s blowout party in the evening.

        Here he is at Pippa’s do:


        For whatever reason, and possibly speaks to familial ability to remove images, many of the aristo friends in attendance were not posted to the usual tabloids sources. The Telegraph posted primarily the aristo friends and ignored the tabloidy, celeb friends. Half the pictures are gone today.

      • Maria says:

        I’m hoping that George hooks up with Princess Bea.

      • Bridget says:

        Missy and Pippa are friends as well. Pippa was a guest at Missy’s ill-fated wedding. People ascribe a lot of bad blood between the Percy family and Pippa, but forget that she and George never dated, and the famous “wife material” quotes were from Alex Loudon’s mother. In this instance, I’m going to guess that as busy people this is simply the date that worked for the Percy family.

      • LAK says:

        Bridget: Invitation to Melissa’s wedding could have come from George or the groom, Thomas Von Strawberry (sorry, his internet nickname is easier to remember). Pippa is friends with both, and they both turned up at her wedding.

        That said, i’m not sure where the story vis a vis bad blood between Pippa and the Percys came from. As you say, people keep ascribing what happened with Alex Loudon and his mother to George P.

        Maria: Me too.

      • Mel says:

        The “big party” was for the daughter’s birthday.
        And he did find the time to attend the wedding itself.

      • Dolittle says:

        Duke Duchess Percy clan – one Classy act! Well done. Bridezilla of a show off and waste of money (and no where close to aristo!) – lets see the matthews (since this was all Matthews funding), now donate to the community/charities and people of her hometown, that were inconvenience.

        Prince Harry should have stay away from that ceremony and only attend the reception with his ‘lady’.

      • Bridget says:

        @LAK you’re right, I totally forgot about the groom Mr Strawberry!

      • Zardi123 says:

        So true dont live far from them they are aristos and are genuine people not social climbing wysteria clinging on….to people like middlebums they will never ever crack into tbat social scene.The middlebums are just moneygrabbing all the way..disgraceful treating tbeir family so badly and looking down on tbem when tney clawed their way from council flat..

    • perplexed says:

      Everyone said she was going to arrive in a horse drawn carriage, but I can’t recall seeing a photo of her in one. So now I’m not believing anything about Pippa’s wedding. Trying to believe any of the gossip seems pointless, since the big things said about her wedding turned out to be wrong. I get why the wedding is being covered from a gossip standpoint, but acting like any of it might be true seems somewhat futile.

      • milla says:

        Same… i actually feel bad for Pippa for the first time. She looked great and she seemed happy.

        Meghan was there, she is with Harry i see nothing wrong. Comments on Pippa’s wedding are so hateful. She can’t win Meghan cannot win… so much hate.

      • Sarah says:

        The gossip mags and people who were 100% certain of their gossip were wrong about everything:
        – horse drawn carriage
        – Meghan going to the church
        -Meghan and Harry staying at the Middleton’s the night before because they are engaged
        -Meghan and Harry being engaged
        -Meghan wearing a black dress
        -Meghan staying in London (that was patently absurd!! Made no sense!)

        Some other gossip:
        -Wills missed the reception
        – dancing until 4AM
        What did I miss?? LOL!!

      • WeAreAllMadeofStars says:

        Right, and I’d like to see all the people who claimed the Middletons were leaking all this info now that most of it has proven to be false.

  2. Khaleesi says:

    Well I’m personally glad this circus is over.

    She married him for money, he married her for her royal connections. Social climbing as its best.

    Everybody can sleep safe and sound now, especially Carole Middleton.

    She only has to find a wife a for her failed marshmallow-businessman son now.

    • Tila says:

      Couldn’t agree more.

      • Megan says:

        I couldn’t disagree more. They looked completely in love to me.

      • LAK says:

        Megan: all 3 things are not mutually exclusive. Love can exist in a mercenary marriage.

      • WeAreAllMadeofStars says:

        They both look happy with each other. Let’s not act like love is blind, pure, and stupid. Back here in reality, people fall in love with certain people for all sorts of reasons: They look like a loving relative, they provide security, they make them feel smart or special. People are messy creatures.

    • Cherise says:

      Not that I know anything about these people but isnt James gay? I thought he was out.

    • Luca76 says:

      I hate blanket statements like this..yes its gossip but you’ve got no idea why or what anyone feels in their heart.

    • KatM says:

      Agreed. I wonder if the marshmellow king will marry Donna Air. It is also almost shocking to me that a business like Party Pieces affords this lifestyle. Apparently the father inherited trust funds but my gosh, this wedding is on another level. I would guess that Hedge Fund James ponied up some of the money for this. Not many people have airplanes flying over and enormous glass enclosures erected on their property for their daughter’s wedding.

      • PrincessK says:

        The fly past was done free of charge I believe, and there were probably a lot of other freebies and companies are getting free publicity. Carole Middleton should start up her own PR company.

      • imqrious2 says:

        Several sites claimed both families split the cost (of whatever it was after comps and reduced-for-advertising discounts). I’d believe that.

      • Malika says:

        How much would a magazine like Hello! pony up for the photos? Would it in any way cover up the costs?

      • Mel says:

        “How much would a magazine like Hello! pony up for the photos? Would it in any way cover up the costs? ”

        Considering that no phones were allowed, so no photo could be leaked, I would imagine that one million pounds – or more – would not be unreasonable from the magazine’s point of view.

      • Dolittle says:

        Middleton did not fund this wedding…this was James.

        Countess Sophie, Princess Bea and Eugeine are out at the Flower Show and all look lovely, (so Princess Bea was not invited to the circus) – Eugeine maybe, as she and pip more times at the same function (and another royal presence).

        Waity is also at flower Show (of course due to HM presence), with her maniac facial attack – the flower dress is oversized and wearing her bones – just too much.

      • Sarah says:

        Malika, Donald Trump should hire Carole Middleton to solve all of the leaks coming out of the White House. Carole had this thing buttoned down!

    • eXo says:


      Will be really interesting to see who he will marry.

    • TLK says:

      Read the articles, much of the wedding cost were on the back of generous friends and they were given many of the things, through deals, even the big greenhouse was a deal.

      Carole the climber, knows how to barter. LOL

      “failed Marshmallow salesman” ….. Drop mic! rotfl

    • Dolittle says:


      Even his parents looked a bit embarrassed- were not even smiling friendly to carol middletons at the Church door behind the couple.

    • London Look says:

      I am weirdly drawn in but don’t really like any of them.

  3. AmandaPanda says:

    Etiquette says the “rule” is that you seat married couples separately and non married couples together. Which I’ve always found hilarious. Regardless, I don’t think it’s a big deal they weren’t sitting together. I doubt anyone was!

    • TLK says:

      Meghan flew 3000 miles, only had a few hours to spend with Harry, it would have not been earthshattering if boss Carole made an exception and let her sit next to Prince Harry. Besides the reception was supposed to be informal setting, a change of clothes even to more casual.

      I’m glad this wedding is over. The Daily Mail is now bashing it, calling it The Posh KARDASHIAN’S.

      • Micki says:

        She flew 3000 miles to attend a wedding. She may fly any other time to meet Harry.
        I don’t have problem with this seating order-I separated my guests too. I think the general idea is keeping in touch with old friends or making new ones.

      • Megan says:

        I have been to many weddings that seated couples separately. It’s pretty common.

      • Dolittle says:

        I agree – 3000 miles to be with P Harry.

        For the evening circus and not seated with Harry. This is carol Wisteria sisters planning to isolate – as they so lack confidence -college age-adult Wisterias’ that hate competition.

        The same way they exclude families – banker uncle Gary, who supported their decade of pretense wealth to hunt/stalk titles and the aristos.

      • Sarah says:

        Dolittle, this isn’t the Middletons trying to create isolation for the guests – it is so guests all mingle. I didn’t do it, I’m not that much of a control freak, but I do know that at most high class NYC dinners, couples NEVER sit together. It is considered gauche.

    • PrincessK says:

      The Telegraph also said that all of the waiters at the reception were models, so that everything looked absolutely perfect. (eyes roll)

    • Mel says:

      It is indeed an old social rule – and not just for weddings – meant to ensure that nobody is left out of the conversation.
      NO COUPLE were sat together. Why should Harry and Meghan be the exception?

      • Sarah says:

        Because for some reason, this 35/36 year old woman who has had a successful career and lived on her own for quite a while needs to be treated like a special snowflake and can’t handle being on her own?
        Come on, folks!! Meghan is not an infant. I am sure Meghan and Harry got to dance, and made nice conversation with others. I think for Meghan it was a good opportunity to meet some people on her own, make some new friends and possible allies.

    • spidey says:

      I’ve never been to a wedding where married couples were separated. But then I’m just a pleb.

      • kaiC says:

        Yeah, it’s not really done where I’m from either. Sounds super annoying/rude to me.

      • Nic919 says:

        Is this a North American vs European thing? I have attended weddings and worked at wedding banquets and have never seen anything but assigned seating at tables and families and couples are grouped together.

      • Zaratustra says:

        @ Nic919

        I have never heard that couples would be separated at dinners. But there is a rule that you should speak to your neighbour on your other side = not your spouse.

    • Whaaaaaaatttt? says:

      yea, the headline is pretty misleading. Sounds like mean Pippa is picking on Meghan, when this was the case for everyone. Not a big deal.

    • Taxi says:

      It’s actually “not married, or married 1 year or less=sit together.” Married more than 1 year, seated separately.

  4. Shambles says:

    Okay in the absence of a horse drawn carriage this weekend, can we finally come to the conclusion that all of these stories are bull? Especially because all they’re trying to do is pit women against each other, it’s icky, and we’ve seen it 45 thousand times before?

    • Maria F. says:

      i totally agree. It is sad that we as women cannot conceive that three other women like each other just fine or are at least fairly indifferent about each other, because they have their own thing going on?

    • minx says:

      Thank you!

    • Tulip Garden says:

      I love your comment and wholeheartedly agree with you👍🏻

    • Desi says:

      Well said. Setting aside the (obvious and well known) etiquette of seating strangers/acquaintances together to stimulate conversation, the woman likely had little to no say in where individual guests were seated.

      But it simply must be the case that one alpha mean girl has it in for the other. Of course, that totally explains it!

      This notion that grown-ass woman everywhere are one slight away from snatching off their earrings and throwing down in the parking lot is really getting tiresome.

    • dlc says:

      I agree. I think all of the wedding gossip was made up. Very little of it was right.

    • imqrious2 says:

      ^^^^THIS! Seriously, I’m sure they all have too much going on to be doing all this Macbethian backstabbing all the time!

    • morrigan says:

      Hell, the fact that Princess Eugenie was there makes me wonder about all the stories that the Middleton Sisters and the York Sister hate each other. Why would Eugenie go to the wedding of someone she doesn’t like, and isn’t even really related to?

      While I do think Pippa was pushed to social climb and try and find someone aristocratic to marry, I’m beginning to suspect she may have mellowed on some things like that over time as she got older. (And saw how her sister’s life was after marrying a royal). Maybe she and Princess Eugenie have patched things up/are on friendlier terms now. And it wasn’t just Meghan and Harry who didn’t get to sit together. Reportedly, NO ONE sat with their significant other. So Meghan and Harry weren’t being singled out or something.

      The tabloids are just as bad at writing fanfiction as people on tumblr.

      • Dolittle says:

        Class, as she was invited and is living at KP – maybe we should wonder where was Bea.

        Another Windsor cousin attended – that her husband was invited, attended together.

      • BeamMeUpScottie says:

        Has she moved into KP yet? I thought I saw recently that she and her partner were waiting to move in as they were still trying to resolve the problem of who was going to pay the costs to correct the damp in the basement. KP is not keen on footing the bill.

    • I Choose Me says:

      Thank you Shambles. The cattiness in some of these threads. SMH.

    • WeAreAllMadeofStars says:

      Thank you. May it be a great big reality check for all the people who swore that the family was planting these (fake) stories.

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    • India Andrews says:


  5. I’m side-eyeing these “sources.” Sources also said Pippa and her “billionaire” husband would be honeymooning low key in Switzerland. Nope! Headed to some exclusive Tahitian paradise for their honeymoon.

    • guest says:

      I saw the photos on the DM. Pippa’s already looking like a bored housewife in those photos. Good for him that he is a wealthy man, so he can keep her happy. 😉

      • EO1 says:

        That’s quite a different face she pulls when she’s unaware that cameras are on her. Now that she’s married, there’s no more need for fake smiles lol she can “work” now as a full-time trophy wife.

      • KatM says:

        Your right. I noticed that too.

      • amalia says:

        Somebody on the DM wrote that they have “the sexual chemistry of a cheese plant.” – it’s so true.

      • Luca76 says:

        lol they’re in an airport after a flight from London to LA and about to go to Tahiti what’s that 15-20 hours? I don’t even like Pippa but this is sort of ridiculous.

      • minx says:

        To me she looked exhausted, not bored.

      • rory says:

        I thought she looked miserable.

      • Maria says:

        After all that build up for the wedding, she is probably exhausted. It’s sort of anti-climactic afterwards. But I thought they both looked happy and relaxed on the day.

      • imqrious2 says:

        Could just be they’re tired?? Perhaps the typical “letdown” after the stress of all the planning and excitement of the wedding? It’s so unbelievable what people will “read into” something so innocuous to see what they *want* to see.

      • Megan says:

        I’m generally not looking my best after a 12 hour flight. Neither is Pippa. Big deal.

      • Sarah says:

        They are probably exhausted.
        I don’t want to have an unearthly amount of $$ in my life, but I would LOVE to stay at the place in Tahiti they are staying out!! It is amazingly beautiful!!!

        So that was wrong, too!! They were supposed to honeymoon in Scotland. I’m glad they changed to Tahiti!!!

    • Nicole says:

      Yea I would say 99% of the stories about this wedding was complete BS which I knew would happen. Nothing like pitting three women against each other

  6. seesittellsit says:

    All couples were separated according to the source who talked to the Telegraph. No couples were allowed to sit together – including Harry and MM. I’m sure the seating plan and seat assignments were worked out a long time ago. I’m also sure that once the formalities were over and the dancing started, Harry and MM were able to get together and put on a few PDAs.

    As for what MM wore, the Telegraph’s source said MM wore “a stunning backless maroon dress”. I suppose in the dim light s/he could have mistaken a deep maroon for black, but my understanding is it is a faux pas to wear black to a wedding service, but anything goes at a big fancy reception with dinner and dancing afterward.

    Can I just say that I think The Sun is full of it and just makes things up to sell papers on a daily basis? Why are we ever listening to The Sun or PEOPLE ever again?

    • Maria F. says:

      I think the colour black at weddings is subject to the country.

      In Spain it is seen as an elegant colour, my british s-i-l freaked out when we wanted to wear black outfits to her wedding, for her it was a colour reserved for funerals.

      • Connell says:

        I don’t about know about Spain, but I am a Catholic. I actually don’t think black is ever appropriate for Christian weddings. I have seen black at Jewish weddings. Meghan’s father is Jewish. Her wedding to Trevor had a chair raising, so it may have been a Jewish wedding. If she identifies with being Jewish, black would have been an excellent choice.

      • Taxi says:

        Yes, it varies by country. In USA, wearing white (or cream) to a wedding is very rude as the bride is supposed to be the only one in that color. Black is perfectly acceptable at weddings here, especially on the East Coast.

    • Anna says:

      But Meghan wore Black (printed black) erdem dress at the Jamcaican wedding too…so the tabloids are probably guessing based on that.
      In the very low-res pic of Meghan and Harry in the car, she appears to have blue/purple earrings so a deep purple/maroon dress may be true after all.

    • BeamMeUpScottie says:

      She apparently also wore sunglasses…. with the modest long black dress and white jacket! To the wedding reception.
      How could this make sense?
      I am willing to bet that some idiot saw the pictures of MM at the polo and made up a quick story around that.

    • Rachel says:

      You know, I hate weddings with assigned seating anyway. If I went to a wedding where they seated me away from my husband?? Girl, bye. You’re asking people to come to your wedding and buy you sh*t from your overpriced registry. Don’t tell them they have to sit away from the one person they might know.

      • Megan says:

        @Rachel Wedding gifts are not compulsory. You are always welcome to forego the registry and opt for something of your choosing, or simply forego the gift altogether.

      • Connell says:

        I think the idea that Meghan, who flew thousands of miles to attend this wedding, does not get to sit with her boyfriend, is terrible. The arrogance! She doesn’t know many people, so it is more unfair to her than others.

      • Sarah says:

        It is assumed that these adults are able to converse with those they don’t know, make new friends, do some networking, perhaps? In the US, this is an upper class norm. I would be fine being away from my husband/boyfriend. You can still hang with them after dinner and dance with them all night long.

      • G says:

        @Connell hahaha seriously? As Sarah says, Meghan is an adult who is no doubt able to talk to strangers. More than that, let’s not pretend that it’s the same for Meghan as it would be for some shy peasant who reluctantly fell in love with a prince. She’s an actress, used to schmoozing and photoshoots, and clearly very okay with the fact that her boyfriend is a royal. Not sitting with him at a wedding is something she can bear.

  7. Barrett says:

    Duh I kept thinking w their security it made no logistical sense to drive to england. Also do they drive w enormous security detail so prince harry is driving w his people on cars ahead and behind him. This sounds weird, like a ruse where they think they are driving but they are really in a caravan of their own cars. Help an American understand? I don’t want them driving causing traffic jams and a ruckus.

    • ABC says:

      Hey I’m British and I don’t understand it either. Especially seeing the pics of Kate driving, is she following a Police motorcycle? Does she have an armed response unit on the backseat? So yeah – can anyone clear this up?

      Re Kate or any of the Royals driving those Landrovers in London.. Now I drive a big 4×4 but then I work on farms and it’s quite useful when half the road is missing after a flood or you need to move a horsebox. But I HATE driving it in town and my town isn’t even a village compared to London. They are not urban vehicles, even if the engine has been modified they are big beasts and not the most responsive in any sort of traffic. Why don’t the Royals drive a nice hybrid or Eco car when in town? Goodness knows they’ve enough cash to afford top end interiors and then that would be one less thing I’d have to feel annoyed about. It’s such a waste of a nice vehicle..

    • LAK says:

      They always travel in a motorcade even when they drive themselves. Outriders and all. The extra cars and outriders are always cropped out of the photos.

      It’s annoying to get entangled with the motorcade because regular people have to give way to them. It’s going to make the school run a bloody nightmare because all routes between Kensington and Battersea are already bottlenecks with lots of traffic.

  8. V4Real says:

    Every wedding reception I’ve been to I sat with my SO if I had one at the time WTF.

    I also don’t believe Megan decided to not come to the wedding. I think Pipoa didn’t want her to come because the spotlight would have been on the beautiful American TV actress instead of the bride.

    • Cherise says:

      The attention and next-day-discussion would have been about Harry and Meghan for sure. Carole and Pippa were never going to allow her there.

    • seesittellsit says:

      @V4Real – this. It wasn’t up to MM, it was up to Pippa and the Middletons, and I’m sure Harry and MM were too smart to argue the point. I’m sure Pippa said, no effing way, this is my wedding, not your non-public engagement announcement forum. Reception with no photogs, yes, yes; church with the photogs everywhere, no. It wasn’t MM who “decided” not to come to the church, it was Pippa who decided MM would not be invited to the church, and I’m sure both Harry and MM weren’t about to argue with it.

    • Sarah says:

      At Pippa’s wedding in England, please tell who would have paid attention to a little known actress rather than the bride, who everyone there supposedly knows and cares about? Are you talking about the paps? Maybe them, but I don’t think anyone else.
      I think it is so insulting to Pippa to say that Meghan would have stolen all of the attention on her wedding day. Most people in the US still don’t know who Meghan is, and from comments on the DM, most British folk don’t seem to like her much.

      • renzii says:

        Sarah says:
        May 22, 2017 at 5:17 pm
        At Pippa’s wedding in England, please tell who would have paid attention to a little known actress rather than the bride, who everyone there supposedly knows and cares about? Are you talking about the paps? Maybe them, but I don’t think anyone else.
        I think it is so insulting to Pippa to say that Meghan would have stolen all of the attention on her wedding day. Most people in the US still don’t know who Meghan is, and from comments on the DM, most British folk don’t seem to like her much.

        Everyone else in the the world, my dear. Pippa is nothing but the sister of the woman who’s married to the prince who will someday in the future become king. She herself is a figure of some scorn for her failed attempts to gain fame and her predilection for the same type of man… tall, and moneyed.
        No one claims that everyone in the UK and US like Meghan and various, quite insightful theories abound as to why this is. But to pretend that any one not living in Berkshire, or the Uk gave one hoot about anything (except for the mini royals, what Kate would wear and how bad her makeup would look), but catching a glimpse of Meghan and Harry, is disingenuous.

      • Travel says:

        Sarah sweetheart this little know actress would have been the very center of attention if she had gone to the church, whether you like it or not, all those reporters where not there for Pippa… and Sarah honey you don’t get to speak for what the British people’s opinion of Meghan is… did you take a poll? nope… you are projecting your opinion of Megan on the British people. Of course you have all the rights to have YOUR opinion on Megan, but you don’t get to speak for the nation, base from what I am guessing from what you have read on Tumblr or DM comments. If we were using that logic, then I would say that the British folks loves her, because my family and friends in England thinks she is amazing, sooooo

    • Original T.C. says:

      I’m wondering I feel being separated from your SO is an old school and upper class rule. In older times and frequently with the upper class marriage was/is not based on Romantic love. It’s like a business contract. Husbands and wives were/are not friends, they would be bored spending time with each other. So at social effects they prefer to hang out with other people and have a good time. Or for the men to start talking to a potential mistress or make business deals.

    • Amie says:

      Are you serious?

      Markle is a previously unknown C-list actress on an American cable show, Pippa is a sister of the future Queen.

      And no way is Markle prettier than the Middleton sisters. They’re all three sort of vaguely pretty, but not standouts in any way.

  9. Cherise says:

    The little girl in me loved the first story better. The Prince leaves a ball to ride 1 1/2 hours just to pick her up *swoon*. Irl, I think Harry is probably a big knot of issues and his entire family is just the absolute worst but the fantasy is cool.

    • PrincessK says:

      Me too…I like the Gallant, Officer and a Gentleman making the 100 mile round trip to London to collect her, when he has an army of chauffeurs at his disposal. Prince Charming Harry….”Meghan my beautiful Queen, you SHALL go to the ball!”. I am sticking with the fairy tale.
      (But privately I really did not want my Harry risking driving miles back and forth down motorways).

    • Emily says:

      I’m with you. I far prefer the fantasy.

  10. minx says:

    I believe very little of the reporting on this wedding.

  11. Maria F. says:

    I understand not liking certain celebrities, I have my own problems with the Kardashians or G. Paltrow, but i hate how everybody has been pitched against each other for this event.

    Not that I am particularly fond of Pippa, but I have to admit she looked really happy on her day. Maybe she did not think that much about MM? Not everything that she decided on for her special day was just geared towards them. If she wanted people to interact more and not just stick to their cliques (which I have seen at other weddings too), that did not just happen to Harry and Meghan.

    Harry and Meghan probably did not want to deal with all this insane speculation and pressure and decided to stick to the private event. Kudos to them. I would not want to know how much she would have been talked about today. Every aspect of her outfit and interaction towards him becomes fanfiction, for the haters as well as all her devotees, who hardly know anything about her, but have become the next beyhive.

    • greenmonster says:

      Thank you! At times you could think Pippa just got married to NOT invite Meghan Markle and make everything about her. Maybe, just maybe Meghan Markle was not that important to the bride and the groom. I totally believe Meghan and Harry didn’t want to attend the wedding together, because it would have caused a storm of “this basically confirms their engagement” in the british press. This would have been the case with any other woman. Harry bringing a girlfriend to a wedding is a big thing – actress or school teacher, it doesn’t matter.

      • Tulip Garden says:

        I see what you are doing and it isn’t going to work! You, personally, invaded Pippa’s heart and made sure she wanted to marry so she could NOT invite Meghan. Shame on you.**

        **sarcasm off now 😉

      • greenmonster says:

        Tulip Garden,
        I did. Then I called every gossip outlet and told them stories about rivalry, jealousy, horse drawn carriages. I also told them that Pippa would elope with Harry, turned out it was the only story they wouldn’t believe.

    • Luca76 says:

      Yes agreed I find Pippa to be very annoying but it’s pretty clear that she wasn’t the Bridezilla the press made her out to be. So the tabs were gleefully fabricating details which have turned out to be completely false.

      • Nic919 says:

        I think any invite or not invite shenanigans would be Carole’s doing anyway. She is running this show.

    • Nicole says:

      Exactly and a lot of people on here ate it up because Meghan is amazing and wonderful. And harry isn’t just as spoiled as his brother (he is). And the middletons are evil.
      It couldn’t POSSIBLY be that the Sun and Daily Fail were full of it just like every other week. And that Pippa had other things to worry about other than Harry. Sounds like every single couple was separated. Honestly this is eye roll worthy

    • PrincessK says:

      But anyway whatever the truth is Meghan upstaged Pippa quite effortlessly. All over the media it has been Meghan! Meghan! Meghan! Every inch of the way. If she had attended the church ceremony, she would have had as many pics in the papers as the bride herself. Meghan just can’t help it , if she is there people will talk, if she isn’t people will talk. When Harry finally does appear with Meghan in full public view at a royal event ( I am hoping it will be Ascot) it will be mega crazy!!!!

      • Mel says:

        Clearly it depends, heavily, on the media you look at. Most media in Europe only afforded H and M a passing mention, if that. The Guardian didn’t.
        Nor did the New York Times.

      • Amie says:

        But that’s probably the Markle PR machine, and maybe a thing mostly in the US? Media where I’m at didn’t mention MM at all.

  12. Talie says:

    I’ll say this: her dress was nice and she chose a hip designer. So that was surprising.

    I was let down that we didn’t get one good pic of Harry and Meg. Oh, well…I’m sure it’s only a matter of time.

  13. KatM says:

    I am still laughing about the giant photos of them being beamed across Middleton Manor at the reception. Yes, I know people have that at weddings but it is pretty funny to see Pippa’s face flashing across the house one moment and all these crazy psychedelic images the next at this type of event. It just seems funny. I liked the part of the wedding at the church because it all looked very beautiful and quaint. The DM already has photos of them at LAX apparently on their way to some island for their honeymoon.

    • sarri says:

      I thought it was tacky and reminded me of Halloween.

    • TLK says:


    • Mel says:

      Based on the contents of those images (James in his hunting outfit, as if looking for Pippa, etc.), it is safe to assume they were meant exactly for that purpose: to make people laugh.

    • Olenna says:

      The honeymoon destination? This is why I can’t believe everything the tabloids print. As mentioned up thread, it was first reported that Pips and James would honeymoon in the Alps. Now, it’s an island.

  14. littlemissnaughty says:

    Oh man. Rules at weddings, I hate them. I’ve heard of the “no black” rule. I started shopping for my bff’s wedding a few years ago and asked her if she had a preference when it came to my clothes. “You can wear whatever you want, I’m totally chill.” Yay! “Well, except black and white of course.” Well thank you, all my more formal clothes are black or white so now I have to go shopping for … pastels? In autumn. I was not amused.

    • greenmonster says:

      Yip, annoying but quite common rules, aren’t they? No black (funeral) or white (leave it to the bride) or red (because it is an attention seeking colour). Although I went to a wedding where the bride said “wear whatever you want” and she meant it.
      But still, weddings are a pain in the butt. A real good friend would just say “I’m getting married, but you don’t have to come.”

      • littlemissnaughty says:

        Oh I forgot about the red. I found this gorgeous silk blouse/top in red and couldn’t buy it either. The season was the most difficult thing because think about the autumn colors. Yeah. Where the hell do I find wedding-appropriate clothes that aren’t black or white? I can’t wear green or apricot. So I went in frickin’ blue and gray. Horrible outfit but hey, at least not black. Her mom wore black in the end. Wouldn’t budge. I laughed so hard.

      • Mel says:

        Red is not subject to absolute interdiction; it depends very much on the family (and on the tone of red, of course).
        But it is a tradition in England that you should not wear green (although Pippa broke it, if I remember correctly).
        BTW, pastels in autumn would be an odd choice (unless it’s early autumn). Russets, golden tones, all sorts of blue, the deeper hues of yellow, orange, violet: that would be more like it.
        Anyway, I like such rules. They are a social game, after all. I like social games. 🙂 The trick is to take them for what they are, period.

      • jwoolman says:

        Mel – Yes, the colors are just a social game and harmless. But they do assume you have the resources to have more than one formal outfit… Which of course is true for everybody involved in such a wedding, so it’s a moot point!

      • Amie says:

        Red is a code color. Supposedly it means you’ve slept with the groom! 🙂

    • CMiddy says:

      I basically wear black at all times and have never made exceptions for attendance at weddings (went to christening yesterday wearing black) – I don’t think people care so long as you looks smart / have made effort. I bucked the trend for my own wedding and wore cream though!

    • Jessica says:

      I wear black to weddings all of the time. Never white.

    • TeamAwesome says:

      My bridesmaids all wore black dresses of their own choosing. After wearing satin pink, voluminous Wedgewood blue, and gold taffeta in the weddings of two of those ‘maids, I would never do that to anyone else.

    • Emily says:

      I went to a wedding in fall. Since I had just been married recently I thought to myself “I’m not going to make the mistake of wearing black.” I wore this bad green and white dress. When I got to the wedding, every. damn. body was in black.

      So, my point is there’s no winning.

  15. Skins says:

    That is one goofy looking dude. But then again, I’m sure she didn’t marry him for his looks

    • amalia says:

      It was a marriage of convenience $$, not love.

    • BeamMeUpScottie says:

      No oil painting, yes.
      But he’s kinda cute in a goofy way as you say.
      Importantly too, he has kind eyes. And looks as if he cares for her.

    • Sarah says:

      To be honest, neither Wills nor Harry are good looking either, but most women would swoon over them. At least Wills used to be good looking. Now, he looks like a horse. Harry looks like is is all blotchy and sweaty.

    • Taxi says:

      He looks so much better clean-shaven though. He’ll age well. He looks like his Dad & Dad’s good for 72. Mom’s good too, for 69.
      All the other pics I’ve seen of James show a complete scruff-muffin, & not in a good way.

  16. Karen says:

    Dinner party etiquette usually has married couples sitting apart from each other to help the conversation flow and not stay between a couple. It’s common at state dinners too. But I’ve never seen this at a wedding. I mean they projected their faces onto a mansion they can’t claim tact as the reason.

    As for wearing black at weddings, in some circles it’s seen in poor taste – that you’re wearing mourning clothes you a joyful celebration (obviously exception if you’re a widow). I imagine royal circles are part of the old gaurd that may still follow this rule.

  17. EO1 says:

    Do we know what the bride gave as her “occupation” for the register? Because honestly said, “unemployed” would be the only accurate description.

  18. LooperFor says:

    The Mail and The Sun are not reliable news sources in any way.

    • seesittellsit says:

      +1,000,000 they suckered us but good.

      And not just them – remember when PEOPLE had it out that Hiddles was about to propose to Swifty? And not least because Swift had been seen at his family estate, WITH his Mum and little niece, for all the world as if she were already “part of the family”?

      And we don’t know that she wore black, so people should stop fussing over that. The Telegraph “source” called it a “Stunning backless maroon gown.”

      We don’t anything, is the truth, except that Pippa Middleton finally nailed a rich husband in an expensive wedding, and that Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are dating, likely seriously., and she was invited to the reception where not photogs were allowed, and not to the church, where photogs were probably hidden everywhere.

      And that is ALL we know.

  19. Kdlaf says:

    At first I was annoyed at Pippa’s (alleged) pettiness towards Meghan but now I’m like just let her have her moment. The day Meghan and Harry make their engagement announcement no one will remember Pippa’s wedding at all. And when they actually get married and Meghan has joined the royal family, people wont remember Pippa much at all (aside from the Daily Mail if they have free time after trashing Meghan) and she’ll be pushed to the background yet again (rightfully so imo but still…)

    • Sarah says:

      Just an honest question: why is it so important that when (if) Meghan marries Harry, no one remembers Pippa? Is it upsetting to you that people paid attention to her on her wedding day? I am really just curious as to why such feelings about Pippa?

  20. Anne says:

    I think we know one: we know nothing about M&H relationship, and wearing black dress on the wedding is faux pass in Europe. You can wear dark green or dark blue (esp. witer wedding), summer wedding- bright colour. I have never seen black derssed woman on the wedding

  21. isakka says:

    Exaggerated coverage (esp. from the DM) of Pippa and her NOT royal wedding for I don’t know many weeks.

    Seriously, you can almost say that the House of Windsor has fallen and has been replaced by the House of Middleton.

    • eXo says:

      Yeah. I don’t think it was a good idea to let the Middletons join the BRF and they will regret it one day. I just don’t get good vibes but whatever – I don’t live in the UK and have to pay for them. JMO.

    • Sarah says:

      The Daily Fail has overdone it. The comment sections on some articles are full of “Please, give it a rest” comments. No one needs or wants 100 articles about Pippa and her wedding. She’s just a sister of.

    • KitKat says:

      Carole and Pippa definitely think they are members of the royal family and I wouldn’t be surprised if Carole has dreams about renaming Windsor to Middleton. ;D

  22. Canadian Becks says:

    James had a Tintin-esque quiff of hair courtesy of the wind, LOL.

    I do think he is smitten with Pippa, and I actually like that he personifies a pencil-necked geek.

  23. KatM says:

    I noticed that the Marshmellow King and Lady Carole were wearing their gold pinky rings with the family crest at the wedding ceremony.

  24. Pumpkin Pie says:

    “Sources” say “Harry very fond of his SIL”…. that is Kate Dolittle, not Pippa. Surprise, they are trying to make Pippa something she is not.

  25. Odette says:

    Are Carole and Mike still together, or separated?

  26. PrincessK says:

    No pics of the mother and father of the groom.

  27. HC says:

    Question I keep asking myself about this wedding: was *any* person of color there? Would have been nice to see more of Markle.

  28. tw says:

    I cannot wait to see what Meghan wore. She is stunning and has incredible style.

    • seesittellsit says:

      Don’t hold your breath: the Middletons made damned sure that no photos of the reception got out to the public. If any do, they’ll be formal ones taken by the selected photographer, and they aren’t likely to include MM – the only hope is paid informers among the waitstaff with phones who snuck a few – unless, of course, the waitstaff were ordered to empty their pockets before being allowed in . . .

  29. Michelle says:

    It’s a faux-pas to wear black to a wedding in the UK and Ireland, definitely seen as more of a funeral colour. Also never wear white, cream, ivory or anything close to the bride’s dress. It should be a riot of colour and celebration!

    Imagine my shock going to a New York wedding in a lime green and navy number when everyone else wore black!

    • Karen says:

      Everyone in New York wears black. Maybe down south lime green but definitely not black tie in NYC.

    • Eleonor says:

      In Italy black is tolerated only if the reception happens to be in the evening: after 17:00 pm. it can be ok but not the most elegant solution, black it’s not a good idea for a wedding in general.

  30. Lainey says:

    And yet there wasn’t pictures of them leaving Englefield House. Wasn’t that where they held the canape reception? But I agree he didn’t drive all the way back to London. They were staying somewhere.
    Love that Pippa and Harry are so close but can’t name an instance they’ve had fun together that wasn’t six years ago.
    The black dress and white jacket outfit is identical to the one she wore to polo. Think people got mixed up.
    Pips will soon be getting investigated for accepting £40,000 of cavier form an anonymous Russian.

    • Pumpkin Pie says:

      I doubt they would accept anonymous food gifts to an almost-barf-royal wedding. What if there are “extras” in the food, like one that starts with p and ends with n. No, everything was checked and vetted. Plus, the “donor” would make sure they know whom they “owe” a favor to.

  31. Lyla says:

    Harry is fond of his sister-in-law because they had a great time at W&K wedding? Since when is Pippa his sister-in-law? Did Pippa marry Wills too? 🙄

  32. Who says says:

    Well maybe Meghan not sitting with Harry at the Wedding could be seen as a good trial run for their future. She is going to have to socialize with his family and friends, this is his life, full of ritual and formality, might as well start seeing if she really is going to like it. There will be times in the future that he will not be around and she will have to fly solo.

  33. seesittellsit says:

    Is it over yet?

  34. Fitz says:

    Its a basic rule of British seating plans that you don’t seat couples next to each other. The idea is to stimulate discussion.

    I have been to over 30 weddings and husbands and wives are NEVER seated next to each other. Sometimes they will be placed on the same table but not always.

    If you think about it is actually more considerate to those who don’t know anyone. By the end of dinner they will know two more people than they did before.

    • Taxi says:

      Funny, to Americans. Do you still impose a time to switch from right-to-left for conversation partners?

      • Fitz says:

        Formally, you are supposed to talk to someone for the duration of a course and then switch but its actually more organic than that these days – you just do what is polite and make sure people are included in the conversation.

        You are also not supposed to talk to someone across the table either but that rule is broken all the time.

  35. India Andrews says:

    Who cares?

  36. Impromptu says:

    Am I the only one who can’t forget the photo of the celebrated Middleton son blow drying his pubic hair in front of a fire , nude ? Then the failed marshmallow business ?
    What’s next for the “hair apparent “?

    Could not resist – – sorry …

  37. Shasha says:

    Is it just me or does Terribly Rich James Matthews sort of resemble Prince Charles?