Game of Thrones showrunners: Brienne & Tormund won’t have a happy ending

Emmanuel Jean-Michel Frédéric Macron greets Donald Trump, Melania Trump  at a concert of La Scala Philharmonic Orchestra at the ancient Greek Theatre of Taormina during the Heads of State and of Government G7 summit

Of all the Game of Thrones storylines in which I am invested, perhaps the shipping of Brienne and Tormund is the most pleasing. Like, I enjoyed Brienne and Jamie Lannister together, because I always felt like those two actors had a lot of chemistry together, and the two characters seemed like such an odd couple but they grew to respect and love each other. But the Brienne-Tormund thing is altogether different. It felt like Kristofer Hivju’s Tormund just fell in love at first sight with Gwendoline Christie’s Brienne. And now everyone wants Brormund/Torienne to happen. Well, the GOT showrunners have a new interview with Entertainment Weekly and they’re trying to tell people that it’s not going to happen, because there are no happy endings in Game of Thrones.

EW: Of the 15 photos HBO initially released from season 7, the one of Brienne and Tormund drew the most interest from our readers. Has fandom fascination in Tormund’s attraction taken you by surprise? And has that inspired you to play with that a bit more this year?

Benioff: That scene last season when Tormund was eating and lasciviously staring at Brienne was one of our favorites. Usually, when we really love something there are a few other people who like it as well. It’s great because there was no dialogue written for that, or major stage direction, there was just a line like, “He stares at Brienne because he’s never seen a woman like that before.” And then we let the actors do what they do.

Weiss: There was the episode where they’re all leaving Castle Black together and there’s a shot — it wasn’t scripted at all — of two of them on horseback and she looks at him and he smiles at her. It’s not something you could ever write. It’s just this moment where this guy is creeping out on her and he smiles in a way that makes her very uncomfortable and she just looks away. I saw it 150 times and every time it made me laugh; it’s purely the two of them.

Benioff: It inspires us because we need to kill one of them now because there can’t be a happy ending or any romantic connection on the show. But we’re not going to tell you which one.

[From EW]

This makes me sad, the idea that There Are No Happy Endings For Anybody, No Exceptions. Like, I get that we have different ideas of happy endings for various characters, and my version of a happy ending for some characters is a lot different. Like, I’ll consider it a win if Arya continues to kill people on her list. I’ll consider it a happy ending if Jon Snow gets to see Arya again. I’ll consider it a happy ending if someone just kills the sh-t out of Cersei. So what is the happy ending, GOT-style, for Brienne and Tormund? Like, just a kiss, maybe. They don’t have to get married and have babies. But a kiss would be nice.

Emmanuel Jean-Michel Frédéric Macron greets Donald Trump, Melania Trump  at a concert of La Scala Philharmonic Orchestra at the ancient Greek Theatre of Taormina during the Heads of State and of Government G7 summit

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  1. Neo says:

    He’s being facetious.

  2. Aiobhan Targaryen says:

    As long as Brienne continues to be the good knight that she is, I will consider that a happy ending for her. Also, her as far away from Jaime as possible because he is poison. She is everything that he should have been.

    If anyone has to go, I am sorry, but Tormund gotta go. I do like him, but I like Brienne more.

    With the D&D it will probably be Brienne and her death will be sexualized in some way.

    • Rachel says:

      I agree with Neo, I think he’s being facetious in the interview. However, that being said, I can easily see both of them dying. Brienne because she’s amazingly loyal and dedicated. She truly is willing to lay down her life for Sansa. While I don’t think Tormund has the same type of devotion to Jon, he and Jon do share a bond, and they would both sacrifice themselves for their people.

      As far as happy endings go, while viewers may love shipping Tormund and Brienne, Brienne has already proven when she gives her loyalty (or her heart) to someone, that’s it for her. And she’s given her heart to Jamie. They’ll never be together, but I think if she saw Jamie doing the right thing, seeing him become the person she’s always believed him to be, that would be her happy ending.

  3. Louise177 says:

    It’s hard to tell if the showrunners are serious. The comment seemed kind of off the cuff, joking. Besides I doubt they would reveal plotlines. They’ve been pretty secretive about plots so I doubt they would get into it now.

  4. Jess says:

    I hope they were joking, Brienne and Tormund have great chemistry and I know this isn’t a happily ever after type of show but come on!

    I’m so ready for this season I just got chills thinking about it:)

  5. LadyMTL says:

    Dammit, GoT, you can’t even give me my Brormund? Snif. I’m not saying that Brienne should end up on the Iron Throne (though that would be awesome) but at least let her have some fun with Mr. Giantsbane!

    • Aoife says:

      But Tormund is sooo not her type – she was in love with delicate little Renly Baratheon!

      • LadyMTL says:

        Hah, that’s so true. Well, maybe she’s attracted to Tormund despite herself?

        “By the Mother, who is this hairy red-haired barbarian and why is he looking at me like that? And what’s with the beard? I mean, he’s so…very hairy and…hmmm, not all that bad, come to think of it.” LOL.

      • tracking says:

        Was she in love with Renly in a romantic sense? I thought she worshipped and idealized him because he was so kind to her.

      • Chris says:

        @tracking: Yeah, she explicitly says she knew Renly was you know, not into her. But he was kind to her when other men mocked her and she adored him for that. Delicate little Renly ended up being the most gentlemanly of them all and Brienne is loyalty personified.

  6. Sixer says:

    “It inspires us because we need to kill one of them now.”

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. I pretty much feel like this every time I switch on the news!

    • lightpurple says:

      Or look at Twitter.

      But seriously, as much as I love Brienne and Tormund, I think Brienne needs to experience the joys of Podrick Payne, even if just for a one night stand.

      • Sixer says:

        Well, I’ll say this for Pod. He is in a blessed minority of people who don’t make me murderous at the moment.

      • Honest B says:

        I think with Pod’s performance in the sack in an earlier season, every lady should enjoy the delights of him! LOL.

  7. third ginger says:

    I honestly think they were joking, actually satirizing the reputation of the show for killing off favorites. My husband and I, as aging baby boomers, talk a lot about the startling contrast between GOT’s killing off regulars and the very old days when only guest stars died. Does anyone remember BONANZA?

  8. justcrimmles says:

    Saw a blurb about this the other day, and that Gwendoline Christie said she’d be ok with being the one to go (only she stated it better.) And it tore my heart more than a little. 😭😭😭 I guess at least we still have Davos.

  9. Jenns says:

    The show runners are known for their jokes and pranks, so I wouldn’t read too much into this comment.

    However, as much and I love Tormund + Brienne, I don’t see it working out. Brienne will always hold a candle for the guy who always holds a candle for his sister. Also, Renly.

    But, I am looking forward to an actual interaction between those two this season.

  10. Eric says:

    Agreed that of the two, Tormund must go. Brienne is an amazing character who literally shines as the White Hat in every scene.

    The show benefits from a dizzying array of strong female characters, including Arya, Missandri, Cersi, Brienne, the Red Woman, and the overblown Mother of Dragons. Even Sansa has made strides late last season.

    Good on them

  11. Lindy79 says:

    I have a feeling based on the clips, that it might be Tormund who goes this season.
    Not because of what D&D have said but based on the clips and some spoilers I’ve read

  12. Sayrah says:

    It sounds like he was joking to me but with this show you never know.

  13. Incredulous says:

    Goodbye Tormund, I hope you go out swinging, at least.

  14. Lucy says:

    UGH. Well, then again, they also said Jon Snow was 110% dead and out. Personally, I think both actors are fantastic as their characters. Even if they don’te end up together, we’ll have some fun moments.

  15. Nina says:

    Just one, god dammit. Just give us one happy ending, you frickin’ sadists!! GIVE US BRIENNE AND TORMUND!! YOU OWE US THAT MUCH!!

    And Arya killing Cersei.
    And Sansa killing Littlefinger.
    And Missandrei and Grey Worm living happily ever after.
    And Sam getting all the books.
    And Tyrion becoming BFF with the dragons.
    And ..
    And..
    And..

    ..it’s not so much to ask, is it?

    • Olenna says:

      IKR. Benioff and Weiss drive me nuts, but I’m even more pissed at my self right now for clicking on this bummer of a thread.

  16. Lillian says:

    SPOILER:

    Do we know if Lady Stoneheart is going to be in this season? I know she and Brienne had unfinished business

    • Honest B says:

      The actress who should be playing that character has said she is not under any contract with GOT.

    • Lex says:

      I think her role has been axed. She probably didn’t serve much purpose in the long run. Too many ends to tie up so no space for all these storylines.

  17. Skins says:

    Is this still on? Been so long I can’t even remember what happened last season

  18. Ana says:

    This is coming from the same guys who swore Jon Snow was dead and would stay dead. They won’t be revealing anything. That being said, I think this storyline (which I enjoy too) should and probably will stay in the flirting area and won’t progress into something else. There’s too much to worry about now for it to believable that someone like Brienne would be distracting herself with romance.

  19. Bridget says:

    They’re both warriors. Neither character, as written, would be happy settling down and running the manor. For both characters, the happy ending would be to fight the good fight, and to have it mean something.

  20. Cleo says:

    As long as Sansa gets herself some Pod at some point, I’ll be happy. She’s been through so much, she deserves mind-blowing sex with a nice guy.

  21. Nikki says:

    Kaiser, I LOVE all your posts on GOT, and as eager as I am for GOT to resume, I’m ALSO looking forward to all your next-day articles!! <3 . <3 . <3 . <3 . Super fan

  22. Alona says:

    Of course not, Tormundwill die and Brienne will f…k Jaime till death. Guy needs to do someone other than his sis.

  23. Yogapants says:

    Leave these two alone, you b******s!

  24. Anitas says:

    I always thought this “romance” was just comic relief. Besides, what do they have in common other than being very tall warriors? I feel like pairing them together would be too on the nose and way out of character for Brienne at least. I much prefer the slow burning romance that could never be with Jaime. They’re at two opposite ends of the same concept – knighthood – but both inching closer to the middle. Tormund isn’t even on that spectrum.

  25. Crackfox says:

    The problem is that Brienne is in love with me and were gonna U-Haul when she’s done destroying people and ice zombies in that pesky little upcoming squabble.

  26. Lori says:

    Brienne loves Jamie.

  27. Vox says:

    There ARE happy endings in ASOIAF, George has always said the ending would be bittersweet and gives the ending of LOTR as an example. Some people WILL get a happy ending. This is yet another example of the show ignoring its roots and George’s vision.