Brad Pitt & Angelina sued by Chateau Miraval’s French interior designer


Prepare yourselves, because this story is insane. We got a tip about this earlier in the week, when the French papers were first reporting it. I thought there was some kind of translation issue and I waited to see if any of the British or American media would pick up the story and perhaps provide some context to make the monetary amounts less crazy. If anything, the context makes it MORE insane. Apparently, seven years back, Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie hired a French interior designer to work on their French chateau, the Chateau Miraval. The idea was that the interior designer, Odile Soudant, would completely remake Miraval so it would be full of light, and more. Let’s be clear: this was Brad’s project. He’s the one into architecture and design. Angelina doesn’t even understand why throw pillows are a thing. Brad was also the one emailing with Soudant constantly about the multi-year project in which she ended up spending €25 million. At some point, Brad stopped paying her. And now she’s suing.

A French interior designer is suing Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie for failing to credit her for work on their chateau in Provence. Odile Soudant also claims the superstar former couple drove her company towards financial ruin by failing to honour bills for a multimillion-euro project to illuminate the 17th-century property. In April, the Paris court of appeal ordered one of the Pitt/Jolie companies, Château Miraval – named after the vast estate – to pay Soudant €565,000, including €60,000 for damaging her reputation. Soudant told the Guardian the legal decision – first reported on Wednesday in Libération – had remained confidential until now because she preferred to keep matters private and had believed she could resolve the issue with Pitt amicably.

In 2010, Pitt, a fan of the French architect Jean Nouvel (one of his daughters is named Shiloh Nouvel), asked Soudant to come up with ways to exploit natural light in the chateau and its adjoining buildings. Soudant had worked for Nouvel’s architecture company in Paris where she had set up the ‘Lumière’ (light) department before creating her own company Lumières Studio in 2009. Soudant said she travelled to Miraval in 2010 to meet Pitt.

“He wanted to make it an exceptional place and believed that light should be at the heart of this,” Soudant told Libération. She claimed she was given “carte blanche” to light four buildings on the estate, including the 40-room chateau. No contract was signed, but Soudant said she billed Pitt and Jolie’s company every month for her fees, while Lumières Studio carried out technical studies and the installations, all of which were tried out on scaled-down models at her Paris studio before being installed. Soudant said she employed 17 people on what she called the “BP project”, including architects, designers, lighting and acoustic specialists and even an optical engineer to calculate the angle of the sun’s rays on the chateau. Two years and a reported €25m later, the project was still unfinished with various contractors and sub-contractors passing the blame.

The French appeal court heard that Pitt had stopped paying Soudant and her company when his chief designer claimed she had billed for €4.9m. Judges ruled that this figure had been greatly exaggerated and that delays were not the lighting expert’s fault. In her evidence to the court, Soudant said at the time she had no idea why Pitt had stopped paying her and that he continued to send her emails saying: “Odile, I need you. Come here please. I need you to finish.”

When her requests for money to pay her employees and contractors went unanswered, she said she was forced to suspend company operations. Ten days later, she said Pitt sent an email saying: “I don’t know how things happen in France but in the United States, friends don’t attack friends. I’ve been nothing but a fan of your work. Do not attack. Let’s finish the project and be proud of it. The work is too good to end on a bad note. Life is too short, my friend.” A second mail read: “Don’t waste time with legal action. Follow your artistic journey and don’t worry about the rest.”

She was awarded her payout in April, but Soudant said she is still fighting to be legally recognised as the creator of the lighting project at Miraval, which she said was handed over to one of her former employees after her dispute with Pitt.

“I am an artist and this is my work. When someone tries to steal my work it is something else,” she told the Guardian. “This is all very painful for me.” She said the money the appeal court awarded her for damage to her reputation was “nothing” compared to what she had suffered. “Of course, people think Brad Pitt is right, that ‘he’s the good guy and she is wrong’.”

Hogan Lovells, the solicitors defending Pitt, told Libération the inspiration for the lighting at Château Miraval came from Pitt. In a statement to the Paris court, an architect working on the property stated: “The lighting ideas came principally from Mr Pitt himself. He is passionate about architecture and knew what he wanted to achieve.”

[From The Guardian]

I told you this was insane. It feels very… “a fool and his money are soon parted.” Brad is smart about money when it comes to filmmaking, but it sounds like he might be an idiot when it comes to grifting interior designers. Soudant spent roughly $29 million working on Miraval just so Brad could have the right kind of natural light throughout the chateau, basically. Do you think it should have actually cost $29 million? BUY SOME LAMPS. For the love of God. As for the breach of contract or whatever… I don’t get why Brad was still emailing this woman after he refused to pay her? My God.

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  1. Jamieee says:

    “I don’t know how things happen in France but in the United States, friends don’t attack friends.”

    “Follow your artistic journey and don’t worry about the rest.”


    • Serene says:

      Oh,wow. He’s so full of BS

    • Neelyo says:

      Right??? Who talks like that when they’re doing business?

      • Onerous says:

        People who don’t want to pay their bills…

      • Felicia says:

        Passive aggressive ones who are busy bankrupting someone because they think (wrongly) that said person screwed them over?

        Did they mention the bit where she apparently went down there to talk to him at his invitation, only to be told she was banned from the property when she got there?

      • Reef says:

        I work on the logistics side of an artistic venture and Creatives talk like this constantly with no sense of irony. I’m literally the person that has to worry about the rest.

      • KiddVicious says:

        He sounds stoned out of his gourd. I’m picturing him in his True Romance character convincing himself that art is more important than food on the table and if he could just get her here she’ll truly understand! LOL

        Good thing he’s pretty.

      • cara says:

        This is ALL on Brad.

    • NotSoSocialButterfly says:

      Poseurs who pretend they know anything about someone else’s trade.

      • kim says:

        Ask architects who associated with him in New Orleans. “The Brad Pitt Houses” are a running joke.

      • I am bored says:

        Kim don’t forget about MIR lawsuit. He tried to make Native Americans pay way too much in an area where houses go for 50,000 he wanted them to pay 200,000. 👀

        That little lawsuit was swept under the rug.

    • I am bored says:

      So the next question is – is he going broke? The ad Astra movie sounds lame and has been done before. Plus, working on a movie when you have not even settled your child custody case is ODD!!! He’s had at least 3 flops in a row? I’m betting his money issue were one of the many problems in Brangelina land.

      • cara says:

        Maybe he’s wanting some of Angie’s money. She has always been notorious for being thrifty, except for the money she gives to charity.

    • Embee says:

      What a douchebag. Follow your artistic journey to a money management class, bro.

      And his crazy lawsuits/shenanigans with contractors etc. are so reminiscent for me of my time with an addict. He couldn’t shoot straight on anything…always working an angle. It was exhausting because it’s one chaotic disruption/fight to be settled after another.

    • Aurelia says:

      You can just tell brad was wasted when he pressed the send button.

      • cara says:

        Makes you wonder if the Court lifted the drug testing order. He certainly could never pass a drug test now.

  2. Maya says:

    So let me get this straight – they didn’t sign a contract, she overcharged and still got the money and now she is suing them because she didn’t get name recognition?

    She is also suing Guerlain for using the sunlight in the ad directed by Malick and starring Angelina. Apparently the sun belongs to her as well.

    She is also claiming she designed a lamp which Brad’s lawyer says he did. One of them will have the proof so let’s wait and see.

    Plus this was back in April so why is she talking now? Why is she dragging Angelina into this when she clearly states that she only dealt with Brad during the time? Is it to get maximum publicity due to Angelina being in the limelight the last few weeks?

    • bap says:

      Why is Angelina name being dragged into this?

    • bluhare says:

      Probably because they were married at the time.

    • Jamieee says:

      This woman is a designer. Her reputation is built on getting credit for her work. A lot goes into lighting design, it’s actually one of the trickier aspects of any project. If people brush it off as nothing or start taking the credit, the perceived skill and thus value goes way down.

      Also it’s Angelina’s house too. Paying someone for work done on your home remains your responsibility even if you don’t personally care about the particular work that was done.

    • Pumpkin (formally soup, pie) says:

      IIRC they got married after they bought the chateau, but they bought it together.

    • t.fanty says:

      Anything involving contractors usually ends up with the person footing the bill getting screwed. Every time Mr. Fanty and I have built something, the contractor goes over budget and gets behind schedule. And that is in the US – I can’t even imagine what it is like in a more relaxed country like France. He should have had a firm contract.

      • Still_Sarah says:

        Always wise words from T. Fanty!
        If there was no contract with this with deadlines and specifications of what was to be completed by what date, then one or both parties were a bit dumb IMO. “Let’s just spends tens of millions US$ on enhancing natural light!”. Huh?! Knock down a wall and put in a big window, Brad! So weird.

    • LeaTheFrench says:

      There may be some translation issues. In the French press the €25M are reported as costs for the whole renovation project (not just the lightning work). The €4.5M are what the chief designer claimed he was billed by the interior designer. The court ruled that this estimate (€4.5M) was inaccurate and that she charged less, although press reports did not specify how much.

      • LadyT says:

        Yes. I agree. The 25 million is the total renovation project for the estate. What was paid and requested to be paid and not paid for the lighting designer isn’t very clear. But the April French court ruling was for Pitt/Jolie to pay her 565,000? These numbers being thrown around are not even in the same ballpark, just don’t make sense. There are some translation issues.

      • lucy2 says:

        OK. that makes more sense. you could probably rebuild most of the place from scratch for 25 million!

    • Marie says:

      Hey Maya,
      Actually is an important point in the legal action that the Guerlain ad was filmed in Miraval. The French articles explained that Pitt tried to argue that Miraval was “private property” and therefore the designer could not assert a “right of publicity” claim (I hope it it the right translation, I googled the English term for the French “droit à l’image”). However, one of the designer’s lighting installation appears in the Guerlain ad. This is why Angelina & Guerlain are dragged into this as well.
      She also said she did not want to disclose and publicize her problems at first but her company has now gone bankrupt because of it.
      Sorry if my English is not perfect I’m from France :)

      • Maya says:

        Ahh thanks for explaining – it makes more sense now.

      • Felicia says:

        I’d also add that in regards to the “droit d’image” and creative rights…
        With Pitt and Jolie getting divorced, and assuming Pitt wants to keep the Chateau, he’s likely going to end up having to find some way to generate some profits from it. Given what his profession is, it seems logical that his ideas might include renting it out for film shoots, photo shoots etc. It’s not as if his family is actually going to be living there now. And winemaking does not generate vast profits on the scale of what they produce. By the way, I vote that the name should be changed to “Chateau Money Pitt”. Lol

        If he intends to do that, the Guerlain ad was the first of what could be many times that this woman’s work will shown on screen or in print. Without her permission and without being credited and/or recompensed for it. I would guess that under normal circumstances, most artists would be quite happy with that kind of publicity but only IF they are credited for their pieces. If Pitt’s lawyers are arguing the “paternity” of her work, he clearly must have had no intention of doing that.

    • cara says:

      If the woman is suing for sunlight, she’s as up her own ass as Pitt is.

      • Felicia says:

        I doubt she’s suing over sunlight. But if she is and Pitt is taking credit for said sunlight, that would seem to imply he thinks he’s God, wouldn’t it?

      • cara says:

        AT this stage anything Brad Pitt does or says would not surprise me. Maybe he does think he’s the God he does not believe in.

      • Felicia says:

        I’m not even remotely surprised. Taking Jolie out of the mix entirely and just looking at his actions over the years, it’s pretty clear he has an entitled streak a mile wide and is a huge passive-aggressive d*ck.

        Thinking about it his “design” efforts, at least from what we know publicly, started with the engagement ring he “created” for his first wife. It’s ironic that he ended up suing that company for infringing on his creative rights, isn’t it?

  3. SoulSPA says:

    Oh goodie. No contract signed for a project with such budget? And so much money for lights? Really? And IIRC A and B will sell the chateau. If true, I don’t know if they’d be able to sell it and make some profit. What buyer would pay an exorbitant number of extra millions for their light project? Oh my.

    • Pumpkin (formally soup, pie) says:

      I cannot wrap my head around the millions spent on a lighting project. I just can’t. And I can’t wrap my head around the fact there there was no contract !!! How stupid is it? And maybe illegal.

      • Mabs A'Mabbin says:

        Try $72 million for a high school football stadium. Just read about that today. Just one of several throughout the state. Ugh.

      • mayamae says:

        How about $1.1 billion for the new Braves stadium? The “old” stadium was built twenty years ago for the Olympics. The Braves are a struggling team with lukewarm fans (at best). The stadium was moved into the heart of Whiteville, so will be alienating any inner city fans. It’s in my county, so my real estate taxes have risen outrageously. And the part that angers me the most – The deal was made in the HALL, in an unethical maneuver that dodged the requirement for citizens to be allowed into the hearing. Dirty from top to bottom. And I love baseball!

      • SoulSPA says:

        @mas a mabbin and @mayamee – are you talking about public or commercial projects? They don’t compare to the improvement of a private property/residence and a vineyard of a wealthy couple who spend their own money on like Banjis’ chateau.

      • mayamae says:

        @SoulSPA – Sorry I’ve just been holding that in for a while and wanted to whine.

      • Olive says:

        @mayamae we just had a new stadium built here for our (struggle) football team the Vikings at about that same cost, a lot paid by taxpayers… and there’s already expensive issues to fix.

        I hate that they moved the Braves out of the city.

    • fubar says:

      Don’t these people watch The People’s Court? You always have a signed contract !Use toilet paper and a crayon if you have to! (only people who watch the show will understand the joke)

    • KB says:

      I assumed the fact that it’s natural light meant there was construction and renovation being done to accomplish it. It’s a lighting project but I assumed it was referring to new windows, etc. not lightbulbs.

  4. What's Inside says:

    He evidently lost his mind prior to the plane debacle.

  5. bap says:

    Question Does he bulk of the attention and credit when his movie company produces the movies and he is rarely their on the sets?

  6. Toniko says:

    Wow the quickness his team released a statement , just like their did when his son and wife were dragged in the press left and right.. oh wait..

    • bap says:

      @Toniko Correct it took him eight months to release the statement about his drinking problem and his relationship with his children.

      • bluhare says:

        Maybe because he had to deal with it first?

      • cara says:

        @bluhare: Brad is all about Brad, others be damned as long as the public still sees him as the “golden boy” at fricking 54 years old.

        You know what they say about your brain on drugs, Pitt is a prime example.

  7. yyu says:

    Architects and designers are not artists; they do not need to create things. They need to innovate, and they only create to make money. It’s their living.

    I do not know what BP thought he was hiring, but he did not hire an artist. He hired a woman who is in design business with her employees working for and under her. She has a proper company. It is a real job.

    He is always such a bimbo and a complete boob.

    • Felicia says:

      There are all the same a number of architects like Le Corbusier who designed furniture and honestly, what some of those guys designed really is art.

      • yyu says:

        Today it is considered as artistic. It is applied art at best.

        Graduated from Parsons w/ an industrial design degree. Tread lightly.

      • Felicia says:

        Well, perhaps your definition of art is more refined and acedemic than mine :)
        That said, a painting is the use of light, shadow, color (or the lack of it) and composition. My personal definiton of talent in that regards is when what that artist has put on that canvas makes you feel what he/she put there and not just see it. Whether you like what you feel or not.

        With that in mind, someone who uses real light, shadow, colour (or not) and composition in a space instead of on a canvas is no less an artist than a painter. Judging from some of the photos on Google, that’s how she approaches what she does.

      • M says:

        ART is done for the sake of art primarily, not for the money. DESIGN on the other hand (architecture, graphic design, furniture design, etc) is done with a very specific technical purpose in mind and that is to solve a PRACTICAL problem. Now, GOOD DESIGN can indeed become ART, such as you mentioned here (Le Corbusier and others) but please don’t confuse them because they are totally different.
        ART – creating art for the sake of art, no practicality intended
        DESIGN – solving problems to make the environment a more habitable and comfortable place – practicality is a must

    • lucy2 says:

      “Architects and designers are not artists; they do not need to create things. They need to innovate, and they only create to make money. It’s their living.”

      As someone who grew up sketching houses and buildings from the time I was 10 years old, to going to architecture school, getting licensed, and working 18 years as a residential architect, I’m going to strongly disagree with you.

      • Inas alsaadi says:

        I agree with you, very strange comment indeed. architecture, wireframe , sketching and more. are all artistic method to depict things in life. The only difference is the preciseness and usage. back to Brad, i am sure its all about interior architecture lighting like windows , ceilings , roofs , colors reflections so. its simply reconstruction . T fanty you are absolutely right. it’s not only the contractor but it’s the designer- contractor that either bring projects down or up.

      • magnoliarose says:

        I agree. Architecture programs are serious and I admire you for doing it as a woman too. I love architecture and it is art. Fine art is not the only creative art. I had a boyfriend whose father is an architect and their house is incredible. It is art. No two ways around it.

    • teacakes says:

      “Architects and designers are not artists”

      *looks at pictures of buildings designed by Antoni Gaudi and Victor Horta*

      I think we’re going to have to disagree on that one.

      • LadyT says:

        And even in my own teeny, tiny world, when I’ve used a designer or architect the artistic gift they bring to a project is undeniable. A color, a placement, a choice– I absolutely find what they do to be an art.

      • laura-j says:

        I read it as they aren’t creating art for art’s sake. If they are running a business, while the result can still be considered art. They are expected to be paid for their work.

      • magnoliarose says:

        I love Art Nouveau architecture and design. The Musée des Arts Décoratifs, Paris has a great collection and in Vienna, there is the Leopold Secessionist museum. The shame is so much of the architecture is lost.

    • Pansy says:

      I teach college art history and am going to disagree with you. History is FULL of cathedrals and colloseums and even homes that are indeed works of art. See: Chartres, anything created by Gaudi or Zaha Hadid, etc!

    • Millennial says:

      Architecture is covered by US copyright the same as art, music, written work, film, and choreography. Meaning, it’s considered a useful art (e.g a fine art), at least by US law.

    • Nibbi says:

      i think you guys are misreading yyu. i don t think s/he is denigrating architecture at all when s/he says it’s not “art” and that seems to be how you’re taking it. S/he even says it’s indeed artistic and creative further down.
      I think the point this person was trying to make is that it’s a highly technical sort of thing and necessarily has a sort of corporate structure behind it, ie, that Brad was being a dick in wishing the designer, like, “Happy Creative Trails!!” or whatever when not paying her for her work. Architecture is creative but not *purely* so in the sense that if your company/ support structure goes under it’s going to be a hell of a lot harder for you to go off and “be creative some more” the way maybe a painter or sculptor could.

      • Felicia says:

        I’m not sure exactly how it was meant. However, I defy anyone to visit the Petronas Towers in Kuala Lumpur and tell me that those are not art. Or that the architect who designed those is not an artist.

      • lucy2 says:

        I don’t feel like I’m misreading yyu, it’s pretty clearly stated. The “only create for money” thing is what really stood out for me, and is simply not true of most of the architects I know. Of course, there are some who are not artistically talented and as a result create pretty bad architecture, but on the whole, most of the architects I know are very creative people who love design and managed to find a career which fulfills that.

      • Felicia says:

        My first thought to YYU’s comment was that he got it backwards. :) I agree with Lucy2 in that architecture is probably a very good option for creative people who don’t want to starve. Lol

  8. GingerCrunch says:

    No contract was signed? C’est dommage. Blinded by celebrity or greed? And while I’m at it, Nouvel is a very pretty name. But knowing its meaning now? My head’s gonna hurt from that eye roll.

    • Adele Dazeem says:

      Ginger crunch you read my mind. Angelina is no saint but omg brad and his pretentiousness. Barf.

      • mayamae says:

        I think Angie is the one who loves French names. Her own name is French inspired, her godmother is French, three of her children have French names, and her mother is part French Canadian.

      • cara says:

        When was Pax or Maddox French names? As for the twins, their middle names are family names, and Vivienne is an extremely common name in the US, and has been for many years.

        Brad wants to forget his roots as a midwesterner, just as Clooney wants to forget he’s from Kentucky.

      • Felicia says:

        I’d like to find out one day why all the boy’s names end with an “X”. Does Jolie have some secret obsession with Asterix we’ve never heard about?

      • cara says:

        @Feliciaa: French comics? Sincerely doubtful.

      • Felicia says:

        According to Wiki, it’s been translated into over 100 different languages, and as of 2009, sold 325 million copies worldwide. So not impossible.

        But that was a joke. There is obviously a reason, we just don’t know what it is.

      • Shelly says:

        I read Asterix as a kid and I’m in no way french and from california

  9. Miss M says:

    This story is ridiculous…
    From the “no contract signed” and Pitt’s emails to her to his solicitors and BP acting as he is an architect. If he loves architecture so much, go study to develop his own ideas…

  10. Surely Wolfbeak says:

    Who gets custody of the light?

  11. bap says:

    This guy really believes he is an creator of the arts. You can become very delusional about yourself when your handlers tell you things you want to hear.

    • LizLemonGotMarried says:

      I really think that depends on the individual. People who get their ass kissed all the time can still remain down to earth, professional, competent, and smart if they are self-aware enough to recognize that the people kissing their ass have a goal in mind (promotion, money, access, fame). I think Brad has just lost that self-awareness.

      • cara says:

        If you have met Angelina, or talked to others that are close to her you’d know Angie is far from being pretentious. She is down to earth and friendly. There is no air of “superstar” around her. The same cannot be said for Brad.

      • Volki says:

        I agree Cara. I remember when they came to Le Touquet a few years ago, people who met her said she was very kind and ” normal “. But when a woman asked Pitt for a single photo he said ” don’t even think about it ” and walked away…

        I also reminds me that during the the filming of By The Sea the local newspaper interviewed the owner of the hotel who said Angelina was super charismatic and driven while Pitt was grumpy and ” always drunk ”

        Sorry for my english guys :)

    • Jamieee says:

      He’s never understood that there’s a huge difference between having a passion for something, and actually being skilled in it.

      • bap says:

        Jamiee Question has he really been truly hands on for his film production company?

      • Jamieee says:

        Sort of? He definitely doesn’t seem to have much to do with the day to day stuff, and that shows when he actually gets involved in the minutia on projects like WWZ.

        He does have a pretty great eye for projects and for talent, and he’s very, very good at the behind the scenes networking. So he does have some real skills there. Not as many as he takes credit for, but enough that he is genuinely important to Plan B.

        IMO it’s what he should really focus on for a bit. No vanity projects or navel gazing, just stay in the background for a while supporting good films.

      • Esmom says:

        How do you know that? I don’t think he’s ever claimed to be “skilled” at art or architecture, which is why he’s hired people for his houses. I[ve never heard of him actually designing or building anything. As for remaining in the background with this stuff, it seems like he did. This is the first I’ve heard of this light installation — and I’m guessing most of us wouldn’t know about it if not for the lawsuit.

      • Lady D says:

        Doesn’t he or didn’t he at one point design furniture? I thought I remembered reading something about it.

      • Artemis says:

        @Lady D: Didn’t Jen Aniston famously said she can finally have furniture she can actually sit on (or something)? This dude’s aesthetic seems uncomfortable at best and cold at worst. I always found his tattoos to reflect that too.

      • lucy2 says:

        Esmom, he did get “hired” to be a designer on a hotel in Dubai. Don’t know if it ever came to fruition.

  12. Onerous says:

    Seriously? I own a design/build firm. These numbers don’t surprise me, but NO CONTRACT!? Insanity. Pure foolishness.

    We often have projects “without a budget”
    But we still provide a base contract and all changes are legally required to be signed off on with a change order. This way there is absolutely no confusion!

    • Felicia says:

      Bet you’re not in France, lol!

    • lucy2 says:

      Totally agree. Residential architect here – we won’t draw so much as a front porch addition without a signed contract.
      It’s insane to me that a project of that size, no contract was drawn up – even without an end budget, you’d think they’d present their hourly rates and the client would OK it. Not having a contract is rather stupid on both parties’ part.
      It sounds to me like the lighting designer may have taken advantage of a big open checkbook, but BP’s emails to her are pretentious and sketchy, and him trying to take credit for the ideas is lousy. If he was such a genius designer, why’d he hire her?

      • Felicia says:

        I suspect he has expensive and very grandiose taste. The original french article said that 70% of the work in her company was for his project and she ended up hiring 17 people to do it due to what he wanted. Including architects, lighting specialists, acoustic specialists and an engineer in optical physics because apparently the angle of the sun’s rays on the building were important in all of that. That probably gives you some idea of his requests right there.

      • Artemis says:

        Besides expensive and grandiose, he seems extremely meticulous about his ‘art’. His personal evolution in acting and how he deals with the media shows somebody who pays attention to detail and adjusts/improves himself more than adequately. There’s nothing wrong with attention to detail but the JP’s buying this chateau and its renovations screams excessive and materialistic to me. 40 rooms is pretty much a palace but there’s no king and queen ruling together anymore so now all of this sounds extra OTT. I can just imagine them screaming ‘Woohoo I’m rich!’ while running through this palace back in the day and the echoes bouncing back to them feeding their egos :D

      • cara says:

        @Artemis: I’d think that too, except he says the reason he could never be a Director is because it involves too much “detail” and he doesn’t have the patience.

      • Felicia says:

        Nothing screams “nouveau riche” to me more than buying a Chateau or a Castle. You certainly don’t buy one for the comfort. The ones that were built to be functional (as opposed to places like Versailles) are usually dark, dingy places with small windows, large rooms that are impossible to heat, no insulation and miles of roof you have to maintain.

    • Aurelia says:

      I bet brad thinks petty contracts are bourgeois and so yesterday.

  13. JC says:

    This kind of project is always a collaboration between the client and the designer. Pitt should have promptly paid her and credited her for her contributions to the project. In the best of worlds, she would have likewise credited him for his ideas and input. If the ideas were all his, what did he need her for?
    I’m sure the chateau is very special….and vain, spoiled celebs who are convinced of their very special “specialness” are seriously hard to take.

  14. Felicia says:

    Heh, CB you guys need a different translator I think.
    She was not in charge of the project, an architect was. She was hired by Pitt to “maximize light”. The Liberation (french) article stated that his central focus was light, using light and “optimizing every ray of light”. She was hired for this purpose. Pitt spent 25 million euros, she did not. The project chief claimed (wrongly) to Pitt, who was annoyed delays, that this lady was to blame and that supposedly she had billed him 4.9 million by that point. He stopped paying her at that point. The French court stated that the 4.9 million was largely above what she had really billed and that she was in no way to blame for the delays.
    In the meantime, she had no idea this had been said to Pitt, as he said nothing to her about it. He just kept her working, ordering supplies and using her employees for his project. But didn’t pay his bills. Until she went bankrupt. He also hired one of her employees to finish her creations after he banned her from the Chateau. And is also now saying that her creations were his.

    It didn’t sound to me as if her job was buying or designing a lamp. It sounded to me like her job was in part, creating lighting installations that were also art. And creating art or artistic ways of bouncing as much sunshine around the house as possible.

    • Don't kill me I am French says:

      You translate better

    • lucy2 says:

      Thanks for the better translation and info.

    • sendepause says:

      Thank you for your translation, now it all makes sense.
      I hope she gets her money [insert riri gif] and the credit for her work!

    • Skylark says:

      Thanks, Felicia, for the clarity. Based on that, I really take issue with Soudant being described as a grifter in the OP – insult upon injury – and hope, now that you’ve provided a proper translation, there will be a corresponding edit/correction.

      Pitt’s ‘I am artist’ pretentiousness has always been eye-rollingly painful.

    • Nibbi says:

      this makes way more sense. maybe the original post needs to be reworked to reflect the better translation guys.

      one thing jumps out at me- hiring one of goudant’s people out from under her to finish her work- seems like a suuuuuuper crappy thing to do, a super uncool – (wait, i almost said ‘uncool burmuda triangle’ *brangelina geek ;) ) thing to do to a professional, especially a creative professional. like, a really hurtful, exploitative, dirty move, actually.

      with the retranslation, i actually end up feeling really sorry for the French designer. it must have been a huge pain in the ass to try to do business with these people from the beginning, and it sounds like BP or whoever was managing the project was super flaky and irresponsible, if not dishonest.

      • Felicia says:

        If she had been doing small scale prototypes or putting her ideas for those installations on paper in any way shape or form, she has a rock solid case that they are covered by whatever form of copyright is applicable for art or intellectual property. That is automatic without her having to do anything else.
        It will be interesting to see how this bit plays out. Pitt and her former employee may very well find themselves charged with counterfeiting. I don’t know what the penalties are for doing that inside of France, but I do know that if you are caught importing a designer fake (handbag, jewellery etc), the penalty is 3 times the price of what the original costs.

  15. manta says:

    I have the feeling several things were lost in translation here, because in the article in french, it says that the whole work in Miraval was estimated at 25 millions euros (repairings, renovation) and that the “lighting” part was significantly less than that.
    Alarmed by all the delays, again on the whole work site, Pitt decided to get an estimation and reached a private constructor, WITHOUT telling it to Soudant. That constructor was the one telling Pitt she overcharged and billed 4.9 millions euros for the lighting work.
    That’s when he stopped paying, but again, all of this went behind Soudant’s back( quoting tha article “Soudant wasn’t aware of the exchanges between the contractor and the star”)
    The court of appeal demonstrated that, at no point Soudant billed those huge amounts and she was not the one responsible for the delays.
    My guess, is that, like many people with overinflated egos and full pockets, Mr Pitt was certainly taken advantage of by many professionals, just not the one he stopped paying.

    • Felicia says:

      The article I read in the Liberation said it was the Project Manager, so I guess “chef de chantier”, who quoted the 4.9 million to Pitt and not some outside contractor.

      I don’t know how much Pitt eventually ended up paying in renovations, but they also said that at the time he stopped paying, they were already at 25 million euros.

      • manta says:

        Well, in the article I read, it said maître d’oeuvre and assistant à maîtise d’ouvrage. That would be a contracting authority support hired to assess the amounts. They were not accurate.
        An the 25 millions were for all the work on all the estate not exclusively the lighting part and Soudant’s society.
        The court appeal stated that Soudant never overcharged and wasn’t responsible for the delays. Plus the hiring of one of her former employes is shady.
        I also wonder if he tried Nouvel first. Look, I’m a big star and my daughter is named after you. What an honor for you to work on my manor.

  16. Talie says:

    I thought immediately that this sounded very Kanye of Brad…and in fact, from what I’ve seen of Kanye’s Bel Air home and the inside of the Chateau, they have similar taste!! It’s very spare and white and open.

    • I am bored says:

      Brangelinas Chateau looks sooooooo tacky. The white stair case is tres ugly. I wish Angelina would’ve spoke up and said noooo! But years of being told you suck at designing by your knowitall boyfriend can cause you to shut down. I think she would probably have an eclectic style.

      She even let him dress her for a few redcarpets because being with him shut down her self esteem and she couldn’t choose her own clothes I guess. I think that was obvious by how skinny she was when they were together,

    • Artemis says:

      It’s very private luxurious mental health hospital-y! I bet he likes flower walls too. Whenever I look at expensive properties, I admire the work done but it doesn’t seem like a place where you can live in? Also too much space freaks me out, it’s not practical imo.

      • Savasana Lotus says:

        I sooo agree. My family and I all have lots of private space, yet we use only 3 rooms in the house. We’re all in the kitchen/ family room or everyone’s hanging out on my bed talking about their days. I don’t dislike Brad, but I remember Aniston saying his taste was extravagantly expensive and austere with very sharp edges and uncomfortable, minimalist furniture. To be fair, he has a very valuable compound in LA that he’s owned forever, but I’m curious as to how it’s designed/furnished with 6 kids.

      • cara says:

        Pottery Barn activity tables and chairs when the kids were smaller. The house is the most family friendly house Pitt owned, probably the reason it was their home base. The Santa Barbara property would be considered a “shack” by HW standards.

  17. HK9 says:

    Bwaha! All this money when I’m sure a few well placed skylights, upgraded windows and some lamps from IKEA would have solved the problem. All that $$ and no contract?? They deserve each other.

  18. minx says:

    What a weird story.

    • cara says:

      People are finally discovering Brad Pitt is a “strange” man. Thank goodness Angie woke up and smelled the roses and got herself and the kids away from him.

  19. detritus says:

    Is there any truth to the comments they have been friends of Assad?

    This article makes it seem like they are lunch buddies.

    • I am bored says:

      Yes, before the war ruined everything they visited and hung out. She’s not perfect. I’m sure she’s no longer hanging out with Assad but that’s something a good interviewer should ask her. So many interviewers miss the good questions and no she doesn’t have someone telling the interviewers what to ask- before someone says that.

      Even Lainey gossip mentioned it when she wrote an article about interviewing Angelina. Angelina lets them ask the questions they want to ask- it takes a good interviewer to get a good interview out of her.

      Now Brad would be too chicken sh*** to answer that question and would need to break out his thesaurus and dictionary to trick you into thinking he knows wth he’s talking about. 🙄

    • cara says:

      @detritus: NO truth to that rumor whatsoever. They met Assad and his wife ONCE, in 2009, when they were on a mission for UNHCR to visit Iraqi refugees in Syria.

      Anyone who says they were “friends” are just people who hate Angie.

  20. Paisley says:

    I blame Pitt on this one. He fancies himself as an expert on architecture.
    The more we know about him, the nuttier he seems to me.

    • cara says:

      It’s really surprising after learning so much about Pitt to know Angie is the FIRST to dump him.

      Many said Goop dumped him, not true, she cheated on him, and he dumped her. She thought he’d forgive her. LOL

  21. truth hurts says:

    Again Pitt is too much. Just listen how he talks in the emails. His ego is definitely something to conversate about alone. Why is he spending that type of money on lighting? I can see him taking credit for her work. We do know he is Again look at his legal team work and PR dismissing this lady and lying for him. There is no way in hell he designed this.
    This is his mess , Angie is thrown in it.
    Let me add this Angie and Brad have made millions together and it seems he has the expensive taste of the two. Remember the rumor 6 months prior to her filing about them fightin about money. I can believe that. But you all support his habits and ego watching his flops. Jeremy and Dede continue to make him money.
    He is a coniVing little man, jmho.

  22. I am bored says:

    Oh so Brad aka the Robin Thicke lookalike ruined a woman’s reputation when he knows he was wrong. Sounds about right. sounds like Trump.

    Sounds like what he and his team are currently trying to do to Angelina.

    • bap says:

      @I am bored You are speaking the Truth.

      • I am bored says:

        Yep. This little lawsuit story is likely why his team has been so public lately. Planting an denying stories. Us weekly, entertainment tonight, tmz, gossip cop.

        He trying to distract. Most of the public couldn’t care less about him though. His team should know that – they should look at his recent box office.

  23. Savasana Lotus says:

    The contingency clause within a CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT is a provision of compensatory recourse with regard to the expected completion of the construction project, including sub-contractors. Construction contracts are required to express measures undertaken in the event that a dispute exists between the parties involved. Did he deny her a contract because she was a sub contractor and was hired by the primary contractor? it was her responsibility to provide estimates and sign off to the primary contractor. I am sure that the Jolie-Pitts were named in the dispute because of non-payment, but why did it get so messy? This is SOOOOOO common. Construction law in California is strict and litigation is commonplace. She’s been paid. If she wants credit for designing a lamp or new lighting techniques, she needs to apply for patents and trademarks. They do not magically appear, nor does payment without contract with a egomaniacal architect wannabe. I get that Brad is a talented artist, and he loves architecture, but if he loves it so much he needs to go to school and become accredited. He’s playing with people’s livelihood with what sounds like an entitled, flighty, artist’s ignorance of real life.

  24. hey-ya says:

    …I love this “too much money” story…& I happen to think they broke up cos the cash was running out…

    • I am bored says:

      I think part of it was he started asking her for more money and she was like nah. She’s given interviews about how she spends and it’s very simplistic compared to his ways. That’s why he’s making so many flops and doesn’t seem to care what type of movie he’s in anymore. He needs heavy cash flow. Meanwhile Angelina just bought a 25m dollar house.

      • bap says:

        @I am bored I am not worried about Angelina movie career if she ever comes back to the screen her movie will be a blockbuster. Angelina has two movies premiering at TIFF: FTKMF and The Breadwinner. Perhaps in 2018 she will start filming a movie again.

    • Artemis says:

      From this:

      it’s very simplistic compared to his ways.

      to this

      Angelina just bought a 25m dollar house.

      That’s insane. She might not care about decorating, but for somebody who doesn’t work that often anymore, that’s a lot of money to throw down in one go. At least Pitt appreciates his properties even though he is anal about getting it right to his tastes.
      And in the article it states:

      Pitt and Jolie fell in love with the Château Miraval, near Aix-en-Provence, after spotting it from a helicopter while flying over the region.

      …they set about transforming it to their tastes and appointed a chief designer to oversee what one French newspaper described as a “pharaonic project” including installing a gym, a spa, a huge wine cellar and a motorcycle track.

      If that isn’t Hollywood excess I don’t know what is? They bought the Chateau as a couple so I’d argue she’s not as thrifty as she makes out. Thrifty people do not need to own a 40-room property! And they considered it their main property with Jolie having her Guerlain ad shot there so I highly doubt she was not OK with buying it with Pitt if she spends time in it away from Pitt and having been married there.

      Her new house is appropriate for somebody who appreciates such an old building yet she doesn’t even care her dog soils a couch that probably costs more than the average person’s house and we’re meant to believe this is her idea of being ‘normal’? Open your eyes, she’s fine with excesses as she’s used to it.

      • bap says:

        @Artemis Angelina bought the Great DeMille home so the children can be about a mile away from their father. Angelina has her own money and is very frugal with her money.

      • I am bored says:

        I’m not reading your entire article but I see you took offense to what I said. LoL What I meant was her quote

        “Save one-third, live on one-third, and give away one-third”

        even the creep bill o’riley researched (he didn’t believe her) and found out it was fact.

        That is what I meant by simplistic compared to Brad’s over spending, and i don’t just mean on that tacky French home either. Many articles over the years show his Pr team bragging about how much he spends on art and furniture.

        The point I was trying to make is Angelina seems smarter with her money and can afford the 25m home because of that FACT & she probably & most likely doesn’t want to waste her money on his silly a–projects anymore.

      • bap says:

        Yes even Bill O’Riley check her out and said she is the real deal with her finances.

      • Jamieee says:

        She’s really not frugal. There’s no shortage of perfectly suitable homes in that little area that cost about a third of the one she chose.

        Pitt’s Los Feliz compound cost him a couple of million in the 90′s, then a couple more recently when they expanded the property.

      • Artemis says:

        Frugal and 25mil houses don’t go together sorry. They are big houses with many rooms that are 2/5 of the price she paid for the Demille place. I mean it’s her money, I’m not debating that…I would just never class somebody as frugal when she indulges in such purchases.

        That quote is old (2006) and made in a time where she was working consistently on terrible movies with a good paycheck. If you’re going to say that Pitt only works for money, then you can’t deny that’s what Jolie was doing too. There’s only a few somewhat decent films she has starred in since the 00s. Most of it is mindless action and voice work for animation films. Even though I’m not a Pitt fanatic, I would pick Moneyball or War Machine over Beowulf or Alexander (having watched both). Her fashion paychecks always seem to go straight to charity but are not the equivalent of her movie paychecks.

        It’s their money though, if they can afford it I don’t see the problem, I just see them as excessive like any other Hollywood celeb :)

      • I am bored says:

        Artemis, sometimes it’s fun to be petty. Maybe buying a 25 m home (that she can afford and he can’t) felt good to her and was a big F U TO her ex.

        Jamiieee, has Brad paid her for the millions she put in for the expanded property on his los feliz property ? She asked for that in the early divorce papers.

        Sometimes I wish she was pettier because I’m sure she could’ve took that property for herself and her kids since that was the family home.

        Damn it Angelina, be more petty and more of famewhore for me, 😂

      • bap says:

        @I am bored. I agree with you I wish she was more aggressive in getting her equal share.

      • bap says:

        Moneyball was overrated boring film, he is a overrated boring actor.

      • I am bored says:

        Oh btw, Artemis, I’ll definitely say Angelina was working for money and she did a damn good job of it. Most of her movies were about the paycheck. So what?

        She was doing that for her family , charity and herself. Not because she owes bills.

        It’s not the same situation when you owe bills and need the cash flow as apprantly Brad Pitt and Johnny Depp do.

      • I am bored says:

        Bap, I couldn’t agree more. His acting is lame and terrible. Funny how getting with Angelina he revived his falling career.

        He said it himself. Plan B entertainment was created so he could creat movies for himself because his career was stale.

        At the same time getting with Brad ruined Angelina career. She was then seen as a tabloid star after him.


        Hopefully she can revive her career. She recently rebooted her production company and has good stuff coming up with Breadwinner being viewed at tiff. Has a good crew behind it. We’ll see.

      • Artemis says:

        @I am bored:

        OK I never debated that she doesn’t deserve to spend a lot of money, my point was that she can be just as excessive as the next rich person.

        How was she doing a good job with it? She did blockbusters like Sky Captain and Alexander which flopped critically and financially. I watched nearly all of her films and while she got a lot of high profile jobs (even in smaller parts like Sky Captain) the quality took a distinct nosedive after Lara Croft. I don’t mind mindless entertainment, she wasn’t bad at her jobs but the content was just empty compared to the strong roles she played in the 90s.

        Her movies actually got slightly better after MAMS but Jolie’s picker for scripts has been off post-90s imo. Again, Pitt’s films are not my cup of tea but the quality of his work improved. Troy Pitt is miles apart from Moneyball Pitt. Salt Jolie is the cousin of Lara Croft Jolie. Even the reasons behind doing jobs was just…sad. The Tourist was a great paycheck but the film and the actors’ chemistry a joke and the little holiday she got from it (the reason why she took the part) does not make up or excuse its awfulness. That’s why it’s funny to me that she’s so into directing because she hasn’t been into film at all for years.

        And fyi, even while having those high paychecks, she still only put down 3mil for a property which had 5+ bathrooms when she was married to BBT and had Maddox. She also could fit all of her clothes in 1 tiny space and BBT had more clothes than she had (and she used to wear his jeans sometimes). Not only was she making much more money than him, back then I would actually call her frugal or minimalist as that’s the trendy new buzzword for it :)

        Btw I don’t particulary care she works for the paycheck but you cannot say Pitt only works for money and flops when he clearly puts thought in the roles he plays. His roles can be very different when he’s not doing war stuff. OK he flops too but at least he can be proud of his work?How the hell can Jolie be proud of the Tourist??? In Shark Tale, she played an overly sexualised golddigging fish??? Get that money but at…what price? It’s not all bad but when it’s bad it’s truly horrible.

      • Felicia says:

        I’m not going to comment on the “thrifty or not” aspect, other than the final straw happened while they were on a privately chartered flight. It’s a bit ironic to call either of them thrifty when that is their habitual means of travel.

        What stuck out in the bit of the article that Artemis quoted was the ” creation of a spa, gym and huge wine cellar”. That seems a little strange to me given that the guy they bought it from had done renovations including “adding a spa and two gyms”. And that it’s systematically noted that guy who invented reinforced concrete built a huge wine cellar on the property in 1850. How can you create something on the property that already exists? Weird.

    • cara says:

      @hey-ya: Brad’s money may be running out, Angie’s, not a chance. Angie is known for being frugal and saving her money. Her motto has always been: live on a third, save a third, and donate a third.

      Angie just plunked down $25 million on a house for herself and her kids.

      • magnoliarose says:

        Nah he is just an overindulged movie star. He has been famous so long he lives in a bubble. Drinking isn’t good for clarity either.

      • I am bored says:

        Preach. Artemis is going to get mad and write a whole damn article about it if she see this. Just ignore it. 😂

        robin Thicke aka Brad Pitt didn’t pay the lady for a reason. He didn’t have the cash flow.

  25. Cinderella says:

    He’s not going to stiff his contractors now, is he?

  26. bap says:

    His MIR foundation is also being sued by Native American a Montana Tribe.

    • I am bored says:

      Yeah, these keyboard activists don’t want to hear about that one. It was swept under the rug.

      He was trying get them to pay 200,000 or more in a 50,000 area.

      I hope they won cause I haven’t heard or read anything about this case since it first started. I’m sure Pitt and his team want it to stay private, 🙄

  27. Joannie says:

    My husband works in construction, design, management and administration. He doesnt start a job without a contract. Pitt sounds like a flake! He thinks he’s an artist but he’s actually just a flake. He’s not the only celebrity who doesnt pay his bills. They are quite well known for being cheap and not paying. I know a few people who have been left on the hook.

    • magnoliarose says:

      They are known for it. Just like that Kendall story about not leaving a tip. They become helpless and pampered if they allow it. They expect things to just magically get paid or resolved.

  28. Olive says:

    Brad sounds like Kanye in this article.

  29. TheOtherSam says:

    With this story I’m now wondering if cashflow and financial stresses contributed to the Brange breakup more than a bit. This whole incident sounds stressful – $25 mil on the Chateau alone? What were they spending on other properties or projects? They were rich together, but not that rich.

    Am aware that his personal issues were likely the main cause of the split but don’t ever underestimate financial issues if they’re present. Many a breakup has been initiated by arguments over money and spending; at one point there were studies showing financial problems outpacing infidelity as the number one cause of most divorces.

    • Artemis says:

      Most celebrities are not even really rich. That’s a myth. Celebrities hang out with really rich people (see Rupert Murdoch) or use rich people’s facilities (staying in their properties, vacationing on their yachts). It all creates this illusion that these celebrities have money to spare which is not true. Most celebrities have all these properties that lose value or in need of repair. Why these people do not flip houses, I don’t know. Or rent them out like some celebs do but that means they cannot live in them when they want to that 1x/year they’re in that city/area.

    • cara says:

      I can see Brad and Angie arguing over money, specifically his spending habits.

      As for “flipping houses”, that’s how Courtney Cox became so wealthy. Aniston’s PR always makes sure she’s on the Forbes’ list, yet it’s CC who is the wealthier of the two.

      • Jessica says:

        I can believe Courtney Cox is a lot more wealthy than she lets on but what gives you the confidence that she’s wealthier than Aniston. She has so many endorsement deals, perfumes, also flips houses, shares in her products, etc.

    • magnoliarose says:

      They are comped so much stuff it is unbelievable. Cars, hotels, clothes, jewelry, meals just about anything. They are attractive to people with money, so they get invited everywhere. He’s wealthier by around 100 million so no one is ever going broke here. But they do have a lot of overhead.

  30. diamondRottweiler says:

    The wide difference in cultures regarding American and French business practices, put alongside the complete insanity of trying to work with mega famous actors’ camps and their tendencies to live outside of anything approaching normal reality (been there twice with my line of work), makes for a tidy mess here. But if it’s as reported, I feel for her. Brad Pitt can get away with most anything he wants–much like a certain president I know–because he has the resources and star power to drag whatever he likes out endlessly. And an entire machine to smear her as he feels necessary. Which is why I no longer work with celebrities, no matter the potential pay off professionally. It almost always goes sideways in one way or another.

  31. I am bored says:

    I really Hope Angelina had a prenup. She has to safeguard her money.

  32. PL says:

    I have never commented on CeleBitchy, but feel the need to comment/clarify for this story. As an independent designer, I have several times been cheated/not paid by clients who don’t seem to have a grasp of how designers work- so I can relate to this news story. I am also Franco-American and have read the French press accounts of this.
    Briefly: Odile Soudant is not a lighting designer in the usual interiors sense, she creates art installations using light, shadow and space. It’s not HGTV! she is an artist. Numbers: at least 25 million Euro has been sunk in Miraval renovations. It seems that the general contractor for Miraval submitted a bill without Soudant’s knowledge stating that Soudant’s company claimed 4.9 million Euro of work. This was determined by the court to be far more than Soudant had actually invoiced. Soudant was paying out of pocket her employees, sub contractors and suppliers; without reimbursement from Pitt she was eventually tapped out and unable to pay, so the lighting aspect of the project foundered, and her company and reputation were damaged. To add insult, one of her former employees took over the project. And now Pitt’s lawyers state that the whole lighting design was Pitt’s vision, as he is well versed in architecture, and knew exactly what he wanted. To which Soudant replied “Well, if that’s true, then I am a Hollywood actress.”, she did not cede her artistic rights or ideas to Pitt.
    I am not a Pitt or Jolie fan, I think they both have aggrandized views of their own intellectual capacity. In this instance I can say very clearly that Brad Pitt would appear to be a real asshole.

    • Liberty says:

      Thank you for clarifying the deatails. And I agree with your assessment.

    • lucy2 says:

      Thanks for the info.
      I’ll commiserate with you on non-paying clients. We did a lot of work for one client, all at their request, and things were moving along fine. Then they suddenly decided to sell the property rather than build the project, and didn’t want to pay us since they weren’t building the project anymore. So frustrating.

  33. bap says:

    @PL Question can you cite any anywhere that Angelina has taken credit for anyone else work? I do not believe you can.

    • I am bored says:

      Nope. the biggest credit Brad ever took was that Oscar for twelve years a slave.


      5 days of work and terrible acting. The only good news was he won with a gang of other people that had very little involvement too.

      Oh yeah and Make it right foundation.

    • Joannie says:

      In the Land of Blood and Honey she was accused of plagiarizing somebody’s script or book. Not sure what it was. But it went to court and she was cleared.

      • bap says:

        @Joannie Angelina Won both Cases. Both cases were barely mentioned because she Won both Cases.

      • cara says:

        The guy’s book had no relation to Angie’s ITLOBAH, his book was about the Croatian War….period. That was the extent of his defense, and also the reason the Judge threw the case out.

  34. Whatnow says:

    Does anybody have an idea of what the monthly mortgage and upkeep is on a 25 million dollar house?

    No judgement or criticism here just genuinely curious

    • I am bored says:

      What’s the upkeep on a 60 m chateau in France?

      Angelina seems to be doing good. Don’t worry. Let’s worry about Brad and his money.

      I hope Angelina takes him for child support too. unfortunately she’s not petty like me so she most likely won’t ask for child support 🙄

      • Whatnow says:

        @I Am Bored LOL I’m not worried about either one of them or their finances

        As I said I’m just genuinely interested in the numbers. I cannot fathom what such things cost and was just curious to have a $ amount to go by.

        It’s all good

      • Lady D says:

        It’s easy to find mortgage calculators online. Just put in the amount of the mortgage/price for the house and it spits out monthly payments.

      • Carmen says:

        I think the court will order him to pay child support whether or not she asks for it.

    • magnoliarose says:

      It depends on how much they put down. It would be hard to calculate because they have a winery and olive oil business. I would say a million a month or more. There would be constant repairs on an estate like this and updates. Loads of staff.

    • lucy2 says:

      She may have had the money to buy it for cash, no mortgage, if she was careful with her spending over the years or made good investments.

      The upkeep costs, I can’t imagine. It’s a very large, 100+ year old house, and a lot of grounds to maintain. I was just looking at the photos from the listings, it’s a beautiful and historic property. I hope they take good care of it.

  35. tracking says:

    He comes across as both supremely arrogant and moronic in his correspondence, but seems like this might have boiled down to a miscommunication (his being told the wrong amount paid by his people). And it was incredibly dumb of her not to sign a contract. Nonetheless, it was clearly her work and she deserved compensation.

  36. Carmen says:

    Ugh. The more I read about this guy, the less I like him. He sounds like a world-class jerk.

  37. bap says:

    @Cara Your comments are very truthful.

  38. Ankhel says:

    I can’t believe that people here actually seems to think Angelina’s worth more money than Brad. He’s had a longer career, demands higher salaries per film, AND makes more films per year. These are obvious facts. So much delusion.

    • cara says:

      I don’t think Angie’s worth is “more” than Brad’s, it’s the fact Angie is more careful with her money than Brad is with his. Angie’s also more intelligent than Brad, she’d be far less likely to let someone swindle her than Brad.

    • magnoliarose says:

      She doesn’t have more and you must realize that this subject brings out the rabid Angie fans, and they exaggerate and twist everything to make her always seem perfect or have qualities that no one has ever told them she has. This site is known as one of the few gossip blogs that are friendly to AJ but the commenters attack anyone they think is critical and if you are then you HATE her or get accused of wild things you never said. lol Crazy times.

      • L says:

        And vice versa…some non-fans do the same & sometimes worse. Let’s be fair now. 😂 Crazy times indeed.

      • magnoliarose says:

        I don’t argue that point. There are people who really hate her but I don’t see that much here. There is dislike or disagreement about her but the rabid never Angie types usually reside on other sites. Out of curiosity, I did look and I was shocked. It is one thing not to be a fan or even not like but it is extreme. I used to like her more but she’s become somewhat boring now. I don’t like her directing, I don’t like the controversy about this last movie. I liked the old kicking butt AJ.

    • Artemis says:

      He was the main earner of that family before the divorce. All Jolie fans can talk about is how she needs to quit Hollywood etc not realising her money comes from Hollywood and her last big paycheck is 2014 so she better be saving her money! Nobody from the UN is paying her that’s for sure. Her fashion checks seem to go to charity and it’s not even a big check anyway. Selling magazines with her children isn’t a novelty anymore so not lucrative and lastly she’s got all the kids now so I’d say her living costs are higher than Pitt’s as she’s got the nannies, cooks etc for the most time and that’s excluding the normal amount of expenses like gardeners for these type of large properties and other upkeep like the swimming pool and general housekeeping. Pitt only has himself and Jacques so he will have less costs, he did seem to cook for the children so we know he doesn’t need a chef (but he most likely does have one). He’s probably stupid with money but so are most celebs who have a steady career. As long as he’s got good accountants he should be good and if he’s not then that’s his karma in life.

      • Ennie says:

        Do you really think they are not sharing the children’s expenses? For real?

      • I am bored says:

        Oh please she made a sh_t ton of money for Maleficent alone. That was just more money to the pile of money she has saved.

        Face it he is the spender in that family. For all he’s earned on the MANY FLOPS he’s churned out it probably went to debt collectors. There is a reason he is making action movies now. Angelina was smart and never cared about hollyweird career- made a ton of money early on for action flicks.

        If the media had more balls and didn’t treat Pitt with kids gloves I’m sure they’d find a Johnny Depp like story in there. Crazy drunk overspending.

        I’m happy he’s working on his next flop because ange needs to buy school clothes for her kids and the daddy dearest needs to pitch in and I hope he’s paying child support.

      • I am bored says:

        Oh Please she made a sh_t ton of money for Maleficent alone. That was just more money to the pile of money she has saved.

        Face it he was the spender in that family. There is a reason he is making action movies now. Angelina was smart and never cared about hollyweird career- made a ton of money early on for action flicks.

        If the media had more balls and didn’t treat Pitt with kids gloves I’m sure they’d find a Johnny Depp like story in there. Crazy drunk overspending.

        I’m happy he’s working on his next flop because ange needs to buy school clothes for her kids and the daddy dearest needs to pitch in and I hope he’s paying child support.

      • magnoliarose says:

        @Ennie It is never the same if you are the custodial parent. I am not sure why it matters to her fans. Charity work doesn’t pay but that is the point. She has her own splurges and spending extravagance but then why not? Why would that be bad? What is the point of wealth if you can’t have some fun with it.

        @I am bored That is just made up. He is not like Johnny Depp. You can see it because you want to see it. You are false about her not caring about a career in Hollywood. Of course, she cared or she wouldn’t have done it. She has had her own flops. Every star has flopped.
        She has not made as much money as he has why is that a problem? She’s made plenty so why is that so important

  39. Paige says:

    His response is so pretentious and it just rubs me the wrong way. I can’t stand unprofessional people.

  40. sophie says:

    Obviously there was some dispute between the designer’s vision and Brad’s vision. The designer feels that she held up her end and obviously Brad wasn’t satisfied with the end result. So that is where the dispute lies, and he hired someone else to finish the project. Happens all the time!!!

  41. Patty says:

    She shared what Brad told her, we don’t know what that was in response too. And everyone in Hollywood is a bit pretentious, if not, they’d have been satisfied acting at a local community theater.

    This is what is typical of what happens when appropriate agreements and contracts are not in place. All of this could have been avoided, if they had entered into a contractual agreement.

    Maybe I’m missing something but I’m trying to understand where all the vitriol for Pitt is coming from. He’s sort of a non-entity to me but I didn’t realize he was suddenly like the worst of the worst. What did he do? Did I miss something?

    • LadyT says:

      You didn’t miss much. There are just some posters that feel very, very negatively toward Pitt and rather than argue or clarify, which would be futile, most everyone just ignores them.

    • magnoliarose says:

      No, you didn’t miss anything. It is irrational and makes no sense so don’t try. I am the fool who does but I prefer fun debates and theories or assumptions.
      This is not atypical in the world of superstars. They are often in situations like this and sometimes it is their fault and sometimes it isn’t.
      What he did was irresponsible from the beginning. Everything should always be in writing. If not then this is what happens since people tend to hear different things when something is said. I don’t think he purposely skipped on her but I think he created this problem for himself. He is busy with other things and a contract would have enabled someone else in his absence to take care of the issue. Bad business but there is nothing pointing to him being like 45.

    • Felicia says:

      Actually, we do know what that was in response to. Requests that he pay his bills. She eventually had no choice but to take him to court to have them paid because she couldn’t pay her employees or her suppliers or continue with the project because said unpaid suppliers wouldn’t continue to supply. He also ruined her credit rating, because she mentions not being able to use her Carte Bleu and for that to happen means she was put on the black-list with the Bank of France.
      It appears to have started when his Project Manager grossly inflated to Pitt the amount she had billed him at that point. And blamed her for the delays the whole project had taken on. Rather than verify that amount, or even telling this woman what had been said (which would have permitted her to prove to him exactly how much she really had billed by producing the invoices), he ran her business into the ground and from the sounds of it, deliberately. The Court btw, found that both the amount it was claimed she had billed and claims she was responsible for the delays were false.
      Plus he’s claiming that he designed what she did.
      I don’t really see how it’s not possible to feel outrage, contract or not. It’s pretty sleazy.

  42. blairski says:

    I assume they have people who manage their other investments. Why wouldn’t they hire a project manager to manage their construction and design projects?

  43. Candies says:

    Exactly. The bittches seem always trying to capitalize on the “divorce” jokes when it comes to Brad.
    Lady whatever went down then, why 4 month late? Try to have a contract next time to say anything…I would be like from what I see it um no money or name needs to be awarded because too much money involved to have it billed as a verbal agreement even..not?

  44. truth hurts says:

    People gI’ve him favor because of his fake facade. He is not a God, saint, either. There is a negativite impact on a lot of people because he acts as so and we all know he is not. He is a cheater, ego maniac, liar, drug addict, and drunk dressed up with money. plain and simple.

  45. Jenny says:

    Brad Pitt’s brain seems completely shrunken from his long-time weed-use, what idiot writes the way he does in the emails? “Follow your artistic journey” – no, pull your head out of your ass you pretentious fool!

    That said, what kind of idiot doesn’t sign a contract before embarking on a job the size this woman describes? They’re both fools and sort of deserve each other in my opinion.

    • truth hurts says:

      agree totally. Angie oh you are not as wealthy as Brad, he is the hard working one to keep his family going, he is the innocent victim you stole away from his wife, he poops rainbows, skittles, and feathers. lol

    • bap says:

      @Jenny An idiot that is very well protected and use to getting away with too much, because he is supposedly good looking.

  46. bap says:

    His acting ability is Wooden and Stiff like his Furniture Designs.

    • d says:

      Watched Allied the other night; he was awful. It was not a great movie anyway. Lots of good actors trying hard, but ug.

  47. Candies says:

    Move on let him be.
    You get like him only if you come decent like him. You can’t take that from him interns he doesn’t own you anything IMO. Haha