Andy Murray: Most of the ‘worst behaved tennis players’ are men, not women

BNP Paris Masters Final

I used to not really care about or like Andy Murray very much. He was so grumpy, so whingy in his early days. Then something shifted – maybe it was me, maybe it was him, but suddenly I really began rooting for him. I think it was a combination of things – he revealed his dry, obscene wit, he really let all of his emotions out, both good and bad. He started behaving more and more like he was one of the leaders of tennis instead of the whinging outsider, that helped too. Add to all of that, Murray developed into something of a genuinely woke feminist ally, one of the few on the ATP (the men’s tour).

Last year, after he killed a butterfly at the US Open (RIP butterfly) and lost in the QFs, he went on a crazy winning streak and ended up world #1 for the first time in his career. He hasn’t had a moment’s peace since then, but still – it’s impressive that he was able to carve out those wins last year. He just lost the #1 ranking to a resurgent (but not unbeatable) Rafa Nadal, and Murray is one of the few top ranked players who will be playing New York this year (Djokovic, Wawrinka & a half dozen others have already ended their year). To promote his turn at the last Slam of the year, Murray chatted with Elle Magazine about feminism, tennis emotions and being called a “Scottish wanker” at Wimbledon. Some highlights:

If Murray feels like the only player standing up for women: “I certainly wouldn’t be the only one, but what I just don’t get is why it wouldn’t be something that tennis players are proud of, like, to be the only sport [where the male and female game and earnings] are even comparable. That’s positive. We still have so many issues, but it’s something that tennis players should celebrate.”

The Scottish wanker: “The second Wimbledon I played, I’m walking to my match and a lady on her mobile phone goes, ‘Oh, that Scottish wanker just walked past.’ I was like, What? I was 19. This is my home tournament. Why is this happening?”

Media management in the early days: “I had no idea what I could and couldn’t say, so I’d just say whatever was on my mind. At the start, they were like, Oh, this is a breath of fresh air, this is fantastic! But then everything you say is a big story, and you see some people like what you’re saying and some people hate it, and you’re like, F–k, why don’t these people like me? What have I done wrong? It’s difficult.”

After losing in the Wimbledon final in 2012: “The pressure and expectation was a lot. And the guys I was competing against, all of them would probably be in the top five of all time. It was actually when I accepted I might never [win a Grand Slam event] that things started to change a little bit for me.”

On female tennis coaches: “Some argue, Oh, well, she’s a woman, so she can’t understand the men’s game. But then how can a man understand the women’s game? I obviously grew up getting coached by my mum, so I didn’t see any issue. But even I—when I came on the professional tour, there were no men coached by women, so looking for a coach, you assume you’re looking for a man, but when you get older you realize…well, no, it doesn’t have to be that way.”

On his former coach, Amélie Mauresmo: “When it first came out in the press that I may be working with a woman, I got a message from one of the players who is now coaching. He said to me: I love this game that you’re playing with the press; maybe you should tell them tomorrow that you’re considering working with a dog. That’s the sort of stuff that was said when I was thinking about it. The amount of criticism she got in comparison to any other coach I’ve ever worked with—it’s not comparable at all. Now, when I lose a match, I get the blame. When I was working with her, it was always her fault.”

On the perception that women don’t handle pressure as well as men: “There’s a perception that women don’t handle pressure as well as men do, but it’s not true. A lot of the top men are very, very emotional on the courts. Not all of them. But some of them. And I would be one. I don’t handle my emotions particularly well in comparison to a lot of the women. If you talked about the worst behaved tennis players, most of them would be men.”

[From Elle]

The whole “women are more emotional” argument is such f–king bulls–t in general, but in specifically the tennis world, it’s absolutely a crazy argument to make. Andy is one of the most emotional players, male or female, on any given court. He screams at the people in his player’s box, he yells at the heavens, he bitches at the umpire and he’s always throwing tantrums. There are often more tears and screams from the male players in general – the women just get it done and suffer in relative silence. You could argue that someone like Serena Williams is one of the more “emotional” female players, but even then, she wouldn’t be allowed to get away with half of the sh-t Andy does and says without everyone declaring her a total basketcase (even Serena has said, affectionately, that Andy acts like a big baby). As for the rest of what he says… Andy is a feminist/feminist ally. It is known. I love him.

Andy Murray at a press conference

Defending champion Andy Murray loses his quarter final match against Sam Querrey at The 2017 Wimbledon Tennis Championships

Photos courtesy of WENN, Pacific Coast News.

You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0 feed.

30 Responses to “Andy Murray: Most of the ‘worst behaved tennis players’ are men, not women”

Comments are Closed

We close comments on older posts to fight comment spam.

  1. A Croatian says:

    He says what he means, and his thoughts are on point, yes!! So refreshing.

  2. Nicole says:

    He was always this way but given the political climate it gets picked up more and more. Plus he was a bit insufferable in his earlier years. He’s so right on his coach though she got so much crap. It was so ridiculous.
    The rest was spot on. Here’s an actual feminist and not a pretend one gaslighting the women in his life (looking at you Joss)

  3. Sixer says:

    I so remember all the hostility early in his career. There’s a sporting rivalry between England and Scotland for football and rugby and other games where we don’t play as the UK. Way back when he made some joke to a journo about always wanting England to lose at football – half the blokes in the country would have made the same joke one way round or the other depending on being Scots or English. And the tabloids went crazy on it – not just for days or weeks or even months. For years.

    They were still harking back to it in the usual vicious Britisher tabloid way right up until the point he won the US Open. Then, of course, he became a BRITISH hero. Our press are such wankpots, honestly.

    I love Andy. Even if he does throw wallies on court.

    • Tina says:

      Team Andy forever and ever. I think things really changed for him with that documentary where he opened up about Dunblane. My heart broke for him, sitting on the sofa with his dogs, and I think the whole country started to see him for who he really is.

    • ls_boston says:

      Well, count me in amongst the English blokes who got sniffy about Andy’s silly “always want England to lose” jibes. Fact is, he wasn’t just another 50-percenter from the UK; he was Andy Murray and, during certain periods, on the tennis circuit, he *was* the UK. But the bigger fact is that he was young and stupid when he was young and stupid. He’s grown up and he has a much better sense of himself as an adult and now what he says isn’t just the rambling thoughts of another bloke about town.

      I genuinely like the man he’s become. (Well, i don’t know the man he’s become; i just know and like the player he is at this age, and that’s all i want to know).

      And not just him. I genuinely like Serena as an adult, I was no fan of her’s when she was young.

      Having said all that, it’s unfair perhaps to expect young players to have the maturity that they will have when they get older – unfortunately, they’re on the circuit with spotlights on (worse, microphones on ) regardless that they haven’t yet the intellectual gravitas. Nick Kyrgios anyone? Bernard Tomic? I don’t have much use for either of these blighters at the minute …

  4. Pumpkin (formally soup, pie) says:

    “When it first came out in the press that I may be working with a woman, I got a message from one of the players who is now coaching. He said to me: I love this game that you’re playing with the press; maybe you should tell them tomorrow that you’re considering working with a dog.”

    Who the FUCK is the guy who told him that? WHO IS HE? Name and shame him Andy !

  5. Pumpkin (formally soup, pie) says:

    Kaiser, you made me a VERY happy pumpkin with this Andy post ! Thank you !!

    I love him, he is my favorite player though I often get really frustrated when I watch him play. But for some reason I like his personality and it seems to me he is the least arrogant male player on the circuit plus doesn’t talk BS. I have an uber-mega-soft spot for him.

  6. BeamMeUpScottie says:

    Love him!

  7. magnoliarose says:

    The biggest brats in tennis are men by a long shot. I love Andy and candid interviews.

  8. Ellie71 says:

    See that to me is a true man . He can handle working with a woman and have women contributing in society and not have an ounce of insecurity , paranoia or ego.

    • Mei says:

      Less a true ‘man’ more just a true human! It seems like, rightly, he is just baffled by why men and women are so treated differently for no good reason and someone who fully thinks that equality should be a given, not a constant fight. More people like Andy in society please!

  9. LooperFor says:

    He is NOT always throwing tantrums! He berates himself constantly when things are going bad, but he rarely behaves like a d*ck on the court. He channels it to his team (which is what they get paid for) and himself and only when he really thinks something is unfair, will he challenge the umpire.

  10. Megan says:

    Women players are more likely to choke away a lead, so in that way they do struggle with pressure more than men. In terms of on-court tantrums? Yeah, the men are worse.

    • ls_boston says:

      eh? How many matches have Fed, Nadal, Djoker, del Potro, and literally all the way down the line to the last seed gone from having match point to losing the match (or at least that set)? Most experts have provided explanations for that, affirmed by standard tactical processing; it isn’t that women choke more than men. What a strange comment!

  11. littlemissnaughty says:

    *basks in the glow of this post*

    How said that we lose our sh*t just because a successful, famous athlete is a true feminist. I love him for it but my god, it’s too rare. What I particularly love about the things he says is that you can tell he has not arrived at feminism via theory. Or at least not only. His comments are consistent and his views are a result of experience and independent thinking. You don’t have to prod him, it’s just there.

  12. Mel says:

    Back when she was a player, Amélie Mauresmo was terribly bullied by the French media because of her “overtly muscled” body. They called her too masculine, which, of course they did 🙄.
    That’s where you see how you just can’t win (no pun intended)
    They’ll complain about her stats but then when she works hard and therefore develops Tracy Anderson’s enemies a.k.a muscles, she gets ridiculed.
    Case in point: Serena Williams being the GOAT is still getting criticized for her physique.
    It makes me wonder, for all the Barbie dolls that were shoved at us when we were kids (and I loved mine), why is it they had such a lasting impact on men?!
    They want tennis Barbie, only she has won ALL the tournaments and has kept the IBM of a 14 year-old girl. 🤦‍♂️

  13. Lucy says:

    Ah, if only he gave the names of all the awful people who said such things. Honk for Andy!!!!!

  14. Annetommy says:

    Actually while I deplore bad behaviour, not trying is far worse. Tomic and Kyrgios are the prime culprits, which is particularly surprising because most Australian players, like Lleyton Hewitt, are often outstandingly gutsy. Tanking is a disgrace and they should be given lengthy bans. I will be very torn if Andy and Rafa meet at the US Open.

  15. yoyo says:

    To be fair, Tomić seems to be both menatally and physically abused by his father. His mental state isn’t the best.

  16. Rey says:

    I love Andy Murray. He has always been this way but he is now getting comfortable in tennis world. Like Kaiser said, he doesn’t view himself to be an outsider anymore.
    I hate the GOAT obsession in Tennis. It causes stupid comparisons. How can you compare male and female tennis players? No metric can account for extra muscle mass and testosterone.

  17. Maum says:

    Mauresmo was repeatedly bullied by other female players during her career.
    Ringleader was Martina Hingis- it was homophobic abuse and was so bad Mauresmo considered suicide. She’s been quite open about it in the French press.
    Poor thing can’t catch a break it seems.

    • SoulSPA says:

      I didn’t know this, Maum. Martina can get lost. Co**aine scandal, does anyone remember? Kudos for Amelie.

  18. Annie says:

    What a lovely post! Andy is consistently refreshing and so real!

  19. A says:

    Honestly, if I were him, next time I went outside I’d have a t-shirt that said, “SCOTTISH WANKER” on it. But yeah, it’s seriously jarring when you’re freaking 19 years old and have to deal with this stuff.

    Also, this is an EXCELLENT way for men to talk about the issues they have in the sport. Not going on a whingefest about how it’s “SO HARD” to be a manz in the sport etc etc. He was clear, he was honest and he got on with talking about the things that affected him.

    And also, 100% true abt the whole “men are more emotional in sport” thing. It’s unbelievable that men don’t see that. Men are more emotional in general, but with sport, it’s astonishing. With the little I’ve watched of soccer, it’s amazing to me how poorly some players treat the refs and their opponents, how poorly some of the coaches treat their players, etc. And with the men who watch sports regularly, the sheer anger and frustration I’ve seen them deal with when their side does poorly–honestly, women never get this wound up about sh*t.

  20. K says:

    I love him so much. I don’t have a single thing to contribute to what has been said above, but I want to get the comment rate up to try to get more stories on him. Because he’s wonderful.