Matt Damon spent October in a haze of denial, his shifting stories coming across as less and less believable as he tried to explain what he knew and when he knew it about Harvey Weinstein. His first version was that he never knew anything about anything with Weinstein. Then he admitted that, oh right, Ben Affleck had told him that Weinstein had harassed Gwyneth Paltrow. Then Matt settled on a defense of “well I never saw Harvey Weinstein rape anyone right in front of me.” To be clear, Matt Damon is not responsible for Harvey Weinstein. But it came across as really sh-tty for Matt to play dumb, like he had been consciously oblivious to everything bad about Weinstein.
Well, Matt Damon is currently promoting Downsizing. He’s being very quiet about it, hoping that he doesn’t get any questions about Weinstein. He sat down for an interview on Popcorn with Peter Travers, and it ended up being a rather in-depth conversation about Weinstein and the unfolding Sex Predator-gate 2017 bulls–t. You can see the interview here. There’s a ton of really f–king problematic sh-t here, quite honestly. Okay, deep breath. Let’s get started.
Matt thinks people need to moderate their reactions depending on the abuse: “I think it’s wonderful that women are feeling empowered to tell their stories, and it’s totally necessary … I do believe that there’s a spectrum of behavior, right? And we’re going to have to figure — you know, there’s a difference between, you know, patting someone on the butt and rape or child molestation, right? Both of those behaviors need to be confronted and eradicated without question, but they shouldn’t be conflated, right? You know, we see somebody like Al Franken, right? — I personally would have preferred if they had an Ethics Committee investigation, you know what I mean? It’s like at what point — you know, we’re so energized to kind of get retribution, I think. And we live in this culture of outrage and injury, and, you know, that we’re going to have to correct enough to kind of go, “Wait a minute. None of us came here perfect.”
On Louis CK: “The Louis C.K. thing, I don’t know all the details. I don’t do deep dives on this, but I did see his statement, which kind of, which [was] arresting to me. When he came out and said, “I did this. I did these things. These women are all telling the truth.” And I just remember thinking, “Well, that’s the sign of somebody who — well, we can work with that” … Like, when I’m raising my kids, this constant personal responsibility is as important as anything else they learn before they go off in the world.
The continuum of abuse: “I mean, look, as I said, all of that behavior needs to be confronted, but there is a continuum. And on this end of the continuum where you have rape and child molestation or whatever, you know, that’s prison. Right? And that’s what needs to happen. OK? And then we can talk about rehabilitation and everything else. That’s criminal behavior, and it needs to be dealt with that way. The other stuff is just kind of shameful and gross, and I just think … I don’t know Louis C.K.. I’ve never met him. I’m a fan of his, but I don’t imagine he’s going to do those things again. You know what I mean? I imagine the price that he’s paid at this point is so beyond anything that he — I just think that we have to kind of start delineating between what these behaviors are.
Al Franken & Harvey Weinstein are different: “When you see Al Franken taking a picture putting his hands on that woman’s flak jacket and mugging for the camera, going like that, you know, that is just like a terrible joke, and it’s not funny. It’s wrong, and he shouldn’t have done that … But when you talk about Harvey and what he’s accused of, there are no pictures of that. He knew he was up to no good. There’s no witnesses. There’s no pictures. There’s no braggadocio … So they don’t belong in the same category.
On the rape allegations against Harvey Weinstein: “Nobody who made movies for him knew … Any human being would have put a stop to that, no matter who he was. They would’ve said absolutely no. You know what I mean? … I knew I wouldn’t want him married to anyone close to me. But that was the extent of what we knew, you know? And that wasn’t a surprise to anybody. So when you hear Harvey this, Harvey that — I mean, look at the guy. Of course he’s a womanizer … I mean, I don’t hang out with him…. So the question is, at what point does somebody’s behavior that you have a professional relationship with … away from the profession bother enough that you don’t want to work with them? For me, I’ve always kind of, you know, as long as nobody’s committing a crime — well, that’s your life, and you go live it. I don’t need to be spending time with you, away from my professional life, at least.
What he would do if a friend came to him with a #MeToo story: “It depends on what the accusation is. It depends what’s going on. If it’s a friend of mine, I’m always talking to them. I know the real story if it’s my friend. If it’s a colleague … I don’t know … I guess it depends on the situation and the allegation and how believable I think it is.
On confidentiality agreements: “I also think the day of the confidentiality agreements is over. I think it’s just completely over. Ten years ago, you made a claim against me and I had a big movie coming out, OK? I have $100 million or I have a movie that is personally important to me coming out, and close to the release of that film, you say, “Matt Damon grabbed my butt and stuck his tongue down my throat.” We would then go to mediation and organize a settlement. I’d go, “I don’t want this out there. Peter’s going to go out and talk to the press and run his mouth, and it’s going to be overshadowing the opening of this movie. How much money do you want?” The lawyers would get together, and they do this cost-benefit analysis, and they’d go, “Oh, this is what it’s worth.” And I look at the number and go, “OK, I’ll pay it, but you can never talk about this again. You’re f—— lying about this, but never talk about this again. Now … with social media, these stories get — it’s like they get gasoline poured on them. So the moment a claim is made, if you make that same claim today to me, I would be scorched earth. I’d go, “I don’t care if it costs $10 million to fight this in court with you for 10 years, you are not taking my name from me. You are not taking my name and my reputation from me. I’ve worked too hard for it. And I earned it. You can’t just blow me up like that.” So I think once a claim is made, there will no longer be settlements. That’s just my prediction, I mean, just based on what I’ve seen.
I’m so f–king tired of all of this, this entitled white male privilege and bullsh-t and assholery. I was done with this as soon as he started defending Louis CK’s character, but he just kept digging and digging. If you go to Matt Damon and tell him that one of his bros groped you, he would be like “well, I don’t know you well enough to believe you, and anyway it’s just a sexual assault, it’s not like you were raped, so you need to shut up. And I hope he sues you for saying that.” That’s basically it. I am so tired of this. I’m so tired of him. He is the problem. Dear commenters: light him up. Scorched earth style.
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Poor Matt is so broken and confused by this. He doesn’t understand at all what is happening.
I know right? And he’s a father! So he is definitely never wrong about this stuff! If only those vengeful bitches would stop talking about being assaulted or whatever. I mean, unless it’s a stranger in a balaclava in an alley it’s not even really assault. Women, amiright?!
A lot of these men are fathers. They are also brothers and sons. Makes zero difference. You know what I would LOVE to see? Matt Damon in a sit down interview with John Oliver. I’m betting after what happened to Dustin Hoffman, very few of these fellas would have the stupidity to do so. Bunch of arrogant pr*cks.
He has four daughters (one is a stepdaughter). What is he going to do if one of them is assaulted? He’ll go batsh!t crazy. I couldn’t even read past the second paragraph.
And as a father, his takeaway from this is that his children learn personal responsibility, from Louis CK.
I genuinely hope his wife is doing a lot of heavy lifting as a parent but jaysus, I cannot imagine living with this man.
Matt Damon just stop talking. Just stop. Quiet. Shhh. Listen! Other people think stuff too.
anna222: or, you know, a witness here and there. Tsk. If only victims would make sure to have at least one witness when they are being assaulted…
I’ve always wanted to punch him in the face.
Worse.
He is a father of daughters, which makes his words and beliefs even more troublesome and pathetic.
He REALLY doesn’t. It’s the ultimate privilege at work: he doesn’t even understand that maybe it’s not his time to talk. He doesn’t get to decide who should be held accountable and who shouldn’t, and yet here he is, flapping his gums even more.
Amen and well/succinctly said, Bridget!
I actually believe that in person, he’s very nice and pleasant and personable. But…
He’s also shown us to be completely incapable of any introspection while being utterly convinced in his own expertise in just about everything. Combined with an almost tribal loyalty to the men in his life, we end up with this blowhard. The best thing he could ever do is to just stop talking.
Exactly that.
Who tha ùµù* do these dudes even think they ARE?
He’s so cancelled for me. He’s doing sooooo much dancing around over there, you can tell he’s kinda trying to just cover his µù^£zz but he’s trying to please too many parties at once.
Exactly. If he understood, he’d just shut up but he keeps talking because as a white straight man that’s what he’s always done and it’s always worked out fine.
“he doesn’t even understand that maybe it’s not his time to talk.”
Well said! This is it exactly. Maybe if he’d shut up and actually listen, he might start understanding how traumatic and unacceptable ALL of this is.
Guilty conscience, Matt? Something you would like to confess? Afraid something about you is about to come out???
Blue Sky – I wondered the same thing, that whole Confidentiality Clause excerpt was too specific with details, he obviously has heard how this works for himself or a ‘friend.’ So gross. I liked his work before, but I really don’t ever plan to watch another thing with him in it.
But will someone PLEASE think of the poor, oppressed, privileged, powerful white men? What about them? Who will speak for them? #makehollywoodgreatagain
As a woman, I can totally remember how many times I crossed that “confusing” sexual harassment barrier: ZERO. ZERO. ZERO. No grey areas. For women, it’s not complicated. We just don’t do that kind of shit (or a vast majority of us don’t) whereas it seems the complete opposite for men.
If you think that predators don’t come in female bodies you are sadly mistaken. I have been groped and grabbed inappropriately a number of times in my lifetime. And it is just as hard for male to report it as a woman,since most other males laugh at you and say something stupid like “Did you like it” or “Was she hot?” and other females like yourself just go “Females don’t do that, that’s a male thing”
@robray
I agree with you all the way. Women can be harassers too, although not as common. I was repeatedly harassed and demeaned by my older female neighbour when I was growing up. Every time I told someone, I was told to get over it. How many inappropriate comments and touches I went through, I lost count.
“There are none so blind as those who won’t see.” Matt embodies this phrase. If he had one ounce of awareness he wouldn’t have said ANY of this. The laughable gall of him to sit back and tell women what is and is not acceptable to confront with respect to their bodily and professional degradations. To suppose he has ANY perspective on the patriarchy…but remember this is the same idiot who man/whitesplained diversity casting TO A PROFESSIONAL BLACK WOMAN IN THE INDUSTRY.
Bless his heart.
No, he really doesn’t. He’s never experienced anything even remotely like it and doesn’t want to believe that it’s as rampant and as bad as it is. He feels a strange responsibility and defensiveness that keeps him talking, when he really should be using this time for reflection and critical thinking.
Matt has been in the habit of mansplaining and in particular, white mansplaining for some time now.
I actually get angry when men say, I have a daughter, so I understand.
Like, for a man to understand that we don’t deserve to get abused he must have a mother he loves, a wife, sister or daughter. We are only worthy as an appendage to a man in some way. Not just because we deserve respect as our own entities.
You women who have no living fathers, no brothers, no husbands – you are just an independent. Seems like these guys don’t have to care about you.
Exactly. I’d like one of these blowhards to say “I’m a human, and this is a human rights issue, and now I’m going to STFU and think about my role in the system that allows abuse to flourish”.
But that would require an ounce of self awareness.
I live in a extremely white entitled community. I’d guess90% of them live off inherited wealth and have NO IDEA what it’s like to fight for a career only to have it consumed in a fire of victim shaming. I get the Mat Damonizing ALL THE TIME, like “poor Al Franken”, and ” a man made you UNCOMFORTABLEf?? #SOWHAT”. When the FCC shenanigans happen- WTF am I going to do without the reality comfort of CB and posters???
Men worried about women getting out of band is as old as patriarchy itself. I find the amount of male discomfort at this movement refreshing because so many men have objectified women as sex objects with a pat on the ass or rape.
Women are speaking up about this ancient form of intimidation and abuse and it is a movement that has been overdue for millennia. About damn time. Keep it up.
I was reading this and wondering how he has managed to hide this level of douche-baggery from the world for so long. Much like Tom Cruise “The Early Years”, Matt must have had some excellent people doing his PR. They’d have to be good in order to keep all of this crap undercover!
“As long as they dont commit a crime”
Yeah Matt what Harvey did isnt a crime. Unwanted touching, rape yeah all in good fun. Why not leave him alone with ANY female friend or family member so they can see the fun in it…No didnt think so
I hate them all. I don’t even want to watch movies anymore.
On the plus side, I do read more now
I saw Grace Jones documentary few days ago. You have to really pick hard in order to find something good and worth watching without eye roll…
I have rediscovered the library. I signed up for a cooking class and to take an art history course. My husband surfs with my 2 of my brothers, brother in law and some friends and they go on crazy surfing trips but I think maybe this year it would be good to take the kids to the beach to learn too. Nature walks and snowshoeing would be fun. Maybe I will finally learn to snowboard and not do slapstick face plants every other minute.
This period of negativity has been exhausting and the entertainment industry feels tainted for me right now and I haven’t worked out how to cancel some people and what to do with other people. Until I do I just have to stay away because it doesn’t feel good and politics are full of enough nasty men that I hate that it is too much for my soul.
I am thinking of fostering pregnant cats again. My kids are good with animals and we can socialize the kittens to make them friendly for adoption. My cousin has barn cats, unadoptable cats but they live on the farm and hang out with the horses but are well cared for and have a warm safe place to live. Sometimes one arrives pregnant and people have taken to dumping unwanted cats and dogs on her property so it would be nice to help.
In my mind my family’s time is better spent doing positive things we enjoy and I am tired of feeling bad about the actions of horrible crappy men. It is a good time to volunteer to help people more. 2018 has got to be better.
Thank you. I feel inspired to do something in 2018 instead of just throwing my hands up in the air and hiding under my quilt. Best of luck to you!
I love this, magnoliarose-you are so right. I just downloaded 2 reading challenges for 2018. Lots of dog walks, cooking (I’m all about soups in winter) and board games with my family.
@CynicalA and Muchado We need to do things we enjoy and try new hobbies or spend some time cheering other people up. Gardeners can begin a program in their town for a community garden. Anything that we always wanted try we should. Maybe an aromatherapy class or walking club. Write again. Take an art class even if stick figures are your only talent, but many communities have reasonably priced Annex classes. Dancing or birdwatching. Audobon society can be fun, and all a person needs is a pair of binoculars and a library. Read to children. Help a struggling rescue organization. Learn to belly dance for kicks.
Local massage schools have massages at discount prices. The money for movies can be used for ourselves.
There are programs to help incarcerated women if someone is a teacher.
So much of what has happened feels soul-crushing and horrible. Self-care is more critical now than ever, or we will start to break down physically from stress.
If you are in the US, help register Dem voters who haven’t voted in several cycles. We will need every vote we can get in case of Russia again.
Last summer in my hometown, I rediscovered the wonders of the public library. I read many, many James Patterson novels, took in a seminar on reiki and hung out in the free wifi area where you can bring coffee while you read or internet surf.
The public library holds wonders!
Same.
I am beyond disgusted. I signed up for two courses too (starting in January) and maybe starting a postgraduate course in June.
Last movie I have seen is Blade Runner 2049, maybe hubby wants to watch the last Jedi but that’s it.
We won’t renew Amazon Prime either when it expires.
Sick of these people. How much art have we lost thanks to all those predators, abusers and rapists?
You don’t necessarily need an abusive, self entitled, perverted white male to ‘do art’!!!
Matt Damon and Tom Hanks need to take several seats!!!
P.S. I will start volunteering too next year as it is time better spent than watching the ‘art’ these people produce!
I’m also doing more non-movies related things.
This industry became so powerful because we gave them our money. Without that, they’re nothing.
So give it to movies that show women and minorities, or spend it elsewhere.
Will visit a gallery with women artists this weekend.
In honor of the lost art from women and minorities, I am going to follow you Silverunicorn and ditch Prime.
flan so much Yes to that. Women and minorities are exempt.
If you can’t have a pet, I heard of a woman who goes to the shelter to bathe kittens and puppies.
The library, local colleges and universities, and museums are full of possibilities. Sometimes museums will have weekly “bring a lunch” and talk about art groups.
@MagnoliaRose
Yesssss! High five 🙂
I have two lovely kitties but hubby doesn’t want more 🙁
Yes I am focussing on libraries too.
I just read that Peter Jackson blacklisted Ashley Judd and Mira Sorvino for the casting of the Lord of the Rings.
He was told they were ‘difficult to work with’ by Miramax executives.
UGH. And then UGH.
Dear Matt Damon,
Were you ever blacklisted because you didn’t say yes to sexual advances of a producer?
If not, take one million seats.
The GALL of these white male actors!
@Silverunicorn
High fives back at you. 🙂
We have a new kitten, and I teach my older kids to put on their hoodies, zip them up and carry the kitten inside to help socialize the kitten, and get used to touch. Plus it is warm in there. Usually, I do it, but I like to teach them how to handle animals and comfort them. I do this with orphan kittens, scoop and cuddle but never with force. Over time they learn to trust but to let them go is bittersweet. I want my children to learn to love and let go as a way to be helpful without expecting anything tangible in return. Another idea for someone who cherishes animals is to train therapy pets for victims of trauma; sexual abuse, rape, DV.
Mira Sorvino and Ashley Judd are the first ones who spoke out, and now they have proof. The rumor was an accepted truth, and my relative told me Mira(Oscar winner) was only cast in average films that eventually killed her career for good. Harvey was smart in his destruction. Forced to be in flops, she became box office poison and then associated with bad movies. Painful and humiliating. Doubly cruel considering age is an issue for women in entertainment, but we need to kick that wall down too. She deserves a resurgence, and I am here for it.
I still love my Keanu.
Me too. However I have often wondered if he wasn’t blacklisted too as he disappeared a few years ago. Might have been his choice… or not.
i wondered too, the common consensus is that he stands up for the crew getting better remuneration to the extent paying it out of his pockets and being a decent courteous person. to the powers that be, it probably translates as a trouble maker and needs to learn his place
I love Keanu too!
KR is very kind and sensitive but eccentric. He was also sexually harassed and reportedly abused. He is lovely and has a gentle but maybe damaged spirit if that makes sense. Everyone has their dark side and secrets, but I get the feeling there is nothing horrific about his. He is sweet to his fans most of the time.
I agree- I haven’t “been into” movies in eons. Moonlight was beautiful- but can’t remember much else. Frankly I’m a political junky now. Since the democracy bus lost a decent driver, I’ve been in full freak out mode, screaming about the mayhem. Otherwise, yeah, I REALIZE WHY movies have been so formulaic basic; as a WOC, i now get why I was always OBSERVING what other deemed worthwhile.
His two best friends are sexual predators. Of course he doesn’t get it & never will. He is very much part of the problem & continue to be unless he pulls his head out of his ass & stop with the bros first mentality.
“His two best friends are sexual predators”
God I really hate Matt Damon. He’s a word smith, and he thinks we are are too stupid to know what a crime is, so he’s gonna explain it to us. His two best friends ARE sexual predators, he knew about Casey affleck and he suspected it of Weinstein, he didn’t care than and he doesn’t care now. So he’s going to give us this word salad and tell us to calm down (like he told Jessica chastain probably).
He’s that “decent guy” who doesn’t rape you, just watches the door while his friend goes in and “fools around” or “pulls a prank”
This is so disgusting, even to read.
Wuuuut… “I’ve never met him, but I don’t think he’ll do those things again”??? Thank you so much for your celebrity guarantee. I’m sure the women of the world feel so much safer now. And now please please please STOP TALKING and GO AWAY!
And can anyone explain why he made up this detailed scenario where he is accused of groping and kissing another man and then pays a confidential settlement? Like on what planet would anyone in an interview about sexual harassment and rape give the reporter a bizarre hypothetical like this about themselves?
LOL I know right. You can tell he’s spent a lot of time thinking about if/when someone comes forward against HIM.
I love that last paragraph of his because he’s shooting himself in the foot. He’s basically saying that in the good old days “a man” was able to blackmail him but now those days are over? No more settlements with liars!
Win-win, Matt! Right? RIGHT?
A man that would go after you for money, as you claim, has nothing to gain by lying on social media so you should be safe. Be glad, my little fool.
“Like on what planet would anyone in an interview about sexual harassment and rape give the reporter a bizarre hypothetical like this about themselves?”
Unfortunately, THIS planet. Remember, “If I Did It” by OJ Simpson (& another writer) a few years back? Yup, a book about IF he killed Brown & Goldman, the very ppl he was actually acquitted of murdering. AND A TV SPECIAL WAS PLANNED (“If I Did It, Here’s How”).
Damon is disgusting and disingenuous. AND DONE.
My gut instinct reading that was that he has been through that exact scenario before himself. He was way way way too detailed. I never cared one way or another about Matt. He’s like oatmeal to me. But now, he is scum to me.
As a father of four daughters, turns out what Matt Damon is clearly concerned about is being falsely accused of rape.
God forbid anything ever happen to one of his daughters. He is absolutely cluesless.
I hope Luciana is really raising them well.
And reserving his right to flirt at work, I guess.
Amazing point. Clear, concise, you see what’s coming. Well said,
He is letting people know if someone accuses him (falsely), he will not settle. Plain and simple.
Yes it seems suspicious to me too.
Also, he’s basically letting other victims know that if they report some ‘untouchable’ Hollywood actor, better they think twice before reporting because they will be destroyed in court.
This a-hole is providing the perfect example about why people don’t report rape.
Yes! I knew you ladies would pick up that.
Yep.
I was thinking that too! I was like, whoa, that was kind of, er, detailed for a hypothetical…
exactly! if this happens i know ill join a crowdfunding for the victims court fees. matt damon just issued a threat while seeming all friendly and thoughtful.
RIGHT?!?!?! WTF. How the F*CK would he know whether Harvey would do those things again? If he is given the chance, it’s almost inevitable that he WILL, Matt!!!! Why? Because he CAN. Because this is a REPEATED PATTERN OF BEHAVIOR.
God he is so f*cking dense.
Yes, so much of everything you and others have said. Sick of him.
I am even struggling to get how he can be so dense.
If I think he’s the only celebrity I ever met in person, I rush to the first rubbish bin or sink and I start puking
As well as it being a threat to future accusers that they will be financially ruined he’s also implying that all those cases that were settled in the past were without merit and were only settled for financial reasons. Wow.
Edited to add: Also, he would only maybe believe an allegation depending how well he knows you but is confident that Louis C.K will never repeat his behaviour, despite never having met him. This assohole.
Remember that Matt Damon puppet on Team America World Police that was so dumb it could only repeat “Matt Damon!” over and over??? That f-cking puppet talked more sense than this asswipe. Cancelled for ever.
Lmfao you made my day..
America … F$ck yeah……
On one hand, I’m sad that you beat me to this comment. On the other, I’m so glad someone else remembers this. It’s my first thought when I read his quotes. “Matt Damon!” Trey Parker and Matt Stone have always been so woke.
I love both your comments @Vex and @elimaeby – I confess to thinking the same thing
Perfection. Nuff said.
YAAAASSSSS!!! F*ck Yeah and F*ck Matt Damon!
Heh. When TA came out, I thought Parker and Stone were giving Damon grief just out of libertarian contrariness. I stand corrected—Damon is an vapid idiot.
Hey Matt Damon…. 🖕🏼🖕🏼🖕🏼🖕🏼🖕🏼🖕🏼🖕🏼🖕🏼
I never liked him anyway, thought he was very average looking with average talent. He can just go fcuk himself.
Lucky for him that his friend Ben Affleck self-sabotage him so much. Ben Affleck is at least aware of his flaws and the world around him. I always thought he (Affleck) was the brain behind their success with good will hunting…
@Tate, I would just like to let you know I enlarged this webpage to make sure that smiley you put in your comment was what I thought it was.
I am pleased.
😀
@Tate- I like the cut of your Jib
I was waiting for you to write about this. I read it on vulture this morning.
Unfortunately, I am out of words. He is absolutely disgusting, you summed up very nicely all of his points:
“well, I don’t know you well enough to believe you, and anyway it’s just a sexual assault, it’s not like you were raped, so you need to shut up. And I hope he sues you for saying that.”
But as painful as reading this absolut sheeet is, we should let him talk and talk until he shows ALL of his true colors.
Can’t believe I’m saying this but even Affleck looks better next to him righy about now.
And he’s so hypocritical talking out both sides of his mouth. Paraphrasing here, but basically: “If any of us knew about Harvey’s rapes and assaults we would have shut that down and said “no way, unacceptable,’ We wouldn’t have let that go on,” followed by “if one of my colleagues came to me and said they’d been raped or assualted, I don’t know that I would believe it.” What a f*cking asshole dick head. So many problems with everything he said.
And his whole hypothetical scenario. So weirdly specific and about him. Red flag. But also, in his hypothetical, OF COURSE it’s some person lying and making stuff up to get a settlement because Matt wants people to know that all these women are just lying liars looking for money.
When he said “I don’t think there will be any more settlements,” I was thinking maybe we were getting back on track. Maybe he was saying that women are now in a place where they will be believed and will be able to tell their stories without repudiation, and justice will be served with predators ending up in jail, instead of the only recourse for women being a settlement and gag order. But oh no, of course not, he’s actually saying, “boo hoo, now we can’t just pay people to be silent. Victims are now empowered and people believe them and careers can be destroyed just because of a little sexual assault. Now we’re going to have to pay so much more money and go to court. Wah wah wah, it’s hard to be a sexual assaulting man nowadays!”
Yeah, that was what I got from it. So sad that about no NDAs huh. Rape just might sink a film for you so waaaaah. STFU.
He makes me want to harm him physically. I think he would drive even the most passive kind person into losing it and kicking him in his groin. Hard. If he sees me start putting vaseline on my face and throwing down my earrings that bitch better run. I am way past dislike now.
SHUT UP!
Ha, Amy, I had the same thought process. I couldn’t believe what I was reading. His lack of awareness/self-awareness is astounding. And gross.
That’s what I got from it too. Totally cancelled.
“We should let him talk and talk until he shows ALL of his true colors.” This. On the one hand, hearing a lot of the male (and it seems to be mostly the straight ones) responses to this situation has been exhausting. This whole interview was a dumpster fire. But the positive is that we’re really getting to see what’s wrong with the way they’re thinking about this problem- what they’re prioritizing and what their motives are.
And no, I’m not letting my own sex off the hook. There are women who have had dangerous and nasty responses to sex predator gate too.
This may have been the worst interview thus far with a male celeb, not (yet) accused of sexual assault.
He needs to be dragged for eternity AFTER being ceremoniously cancelled for this shit.
“Nobody who made movies for him knew … Any human being would have put a stop to that, no matter who he was. They would’ve said absolutely no.”
This is categorically NOT TRUE. YOUR BEST PAL BEN AFFLECK KNEW.
Damon lost me with his ‘I didn’t know’ shtick weeks ago – but this is just beyond. F Off.
Does he not realize that lots of people knew and have admitted knowing and they didn’t do anything to stop it? I don’t even know what to say anymore about all these men and their excuses.
And by “people” he clearly means “men.” I am so sick of that being the default. Guess what — WOMEN ARE PEOPLE TOO.
The women knew. Gosh. I wonder why they didn’t see Damon as someone to confide in? It is a real mystery.
Yeah, you know who else “knew”?
All the women he harassed, raped and then blacklisted for saying ‘no’.
They knew.
Or do women not count as ‘people’ now?
Yet he said that he knew that he didn’t want anyone close to him to be married to the guy. So which is it, Matt??? He obviously knew SOMETHING as did a lot of Hollywood.
I’m not trying to defend him, but what he said was that nobody knew he RAPED anyone, that everyone would have put a stop to that. He didn’t say nobody knew he assaulted/harassed anyone. To me, he’s saying, the guy was such an asshole/womanizer that I would never have let my friend marry him, but I never knew he was a rapist too.
To think that someone would say he’s willing to “put a stop to” rape, but not to sexual harassment, predatory behaviour, or indecency and disrespect. That is messed up.
LOL its like he TRIES to be stupid and offensive. Has no one sat him down and told him?
We need to find a new word to describe how dumb he sounds.
A: “How dumb is he?”
B: “Oh, he is dumb. He is mattly dumb.”
Please lets call him Dumb Damon from now on.. he is so entitled and ridiculous!
I’ve read this post 3 times in disbelief, because how could somebody really let all these words come out at once. Did he not know these questions were coming? My God…with every line it gets worse.
So true. I re-read a couple times, too, in disbelief.
If Matt Damon wants to keep his career, he needs to shut up. What an asshole
I can’t believe he is still talking
Oh boy so much to unpack and I don’t have the strength. What a turd. Is he this stupid or is he just talking out of his sh•t-hole? We are dealing with a string of abuse of all sizes and versions that is perpetated by very powerful men. Whether it’s full on rape or verbal abuse, it is horrifying and it is a strong impediment for women to pursue careers (not to mention the psychological trauma). Yes, just the sheer fact that while he has fun on all his sets, some women are terrified of being there. But if it’s not a friend, he doesn’t know what he’d do? Arrghhhh. I just can’t.
Not that much to unpack!
I think “Fuck off, you entitled cockwomble,” about covers it.
😉
That’s it. You summed it up alright!
I want to thank you for the word cockwomble. It’s my word of the day.
Hopefully I don’t offend too many people as I work it into at least 5 sentences today…. and again, thank you….
My pleasure!
@Sixer, lol!!!! 👏
Matt Damon’s publicist is either a moron or is currently getting very drunk.
STFU Damon, your concerns matter to me not even a little. You may never have assaulted or harassed anyone (we will see) but you are a huuuuuuuge part of the problem. Shut up, listen, learn.
How his publicist didn’t jump in and stop him from talking this much is amazing…I’m stunned.
How his publicist didn’t coach him with something thoroughly prepared is astonishing, considering that he’s already been so publicly inarticulate on this issue.
This one is still talking?!!!!!!????!!!!
Dear men: it’s not that the #metoo movement is out of control; it’s that men have been that awful. Signed, #metoo
Yes!
YES.
It’s “out of control” and so many women because it’s been SO MANY MEN HARASSING WOMEN.
Exactly. It means men have been “out of control for millennia. There are a lot of crimes to unpack. Two months isn’t gonna cut it.
You know what is ACTUALLY out of hand and worrisome Matt? sexual assault. sexual harassment. misogyny in general. Idiot. Sorry if your little feelings are nervous that someone might say something only adjacent to the actual truth, I’ll be over here worrying about walking home tonight and not getting raped or assaulted or not having some random guy on the bus lick me.
This is EXACTLY what someone, any woman in his vicinity, needs to say, right to his smug face. Word for word.
He’s on permanent mute.
@Giulia: you are very classy, I admire that a lot. I really mean what I say.
That photo with the three of them **and** those happy smiles is SO TELLING! They turn my screen BROWN!
I knew he wasn’t shit when he tried to lecture a black woman on diversity. F*ck off and stay gone Matt.
His treatment of Effie Brown drove me craaaaaazy! Diversity only matters when it comes to casting, throw a token up there and voila, diversity! And the project DIDN’T EVEN HAVE ANYONE OF COLOR in the cast after that!
I was a fan of his up until then. That was the turning point for sure, and he has gone downhill at lightning speed since then.
He revealed just how wrong he is as a person with that. I am still stunned.
Amen! I used to think he was hot but then his constant shade throwing and celebrity name dropping started to irritate the piss out of me. When that shit with Effie went down, my side-eye went on automatic pilot anytime he opened his damn mouth. Now, I’m not even surprised at the bullshit he’s spewing. So many parts of his statement is pissing me the hell off.
I love how easy it is for men to write this stuff off.
Oh, he just used his power and standing to force women to watch him jerk it, no big!
He didn’t rape rape her, so it’s not like it matters.
F*ck right off, Damon, don’t you dare dismiss the pain and trauma these women felt because you think it’s not a big deal.
it seems that he can’t sympathize with the victims at all. He only worries about his buddies and categorizing different types of harassment and assault. He seems quite worried about his own neck, talking about settlements and hypothetical scenarios if he was accused. It seems that the victims are just an afterthought for him.
He says he doesn’t know Louis ck but doesn’t think he will do it again because of all the backlash on him already. I’m baffled at his lack of sympathy for victims.
I have to apologize if my comments aren’t making sense lol…I’m literally boiling here. This interview is just the worst
Michael B. Jordan voice in the trailer for Black Panther: I WANNA BURN IT ALL!!!
Disgusting pigs, all of Hollywood!
So . . . they interviewed him about #MeToo and he spent most of the interview boo-hooing the treatment of the rapists/molesters and the end of confidentiality agreements? That’s what I got from this. Goodbye Mat Damon, you’ve BEEN cancelled for a while now.
If a friend came to me with a story of abuse I’d have to think about how believable it is. But I totally believe Louis C.K. even though I don’t know him and I do know he is a compulsive masturbator. As I was telling my good friend Jessica Chastain the other day, people really need to calm down.
I love this comment. Cheers PPP!
Hahaha so true.
It’s basically saying: He only cornered you and masturbated in front of you, and? Did he rape you (you know aggressively enough to have marks so I have enough proof to believe you?)?
That part about the non-disclosure settlements seemed very detailed, I wonder now how many he’s settled with in his past/ present.
Yes that jumped out at me too. Like, the dude basically brushed off the #MeToo movement as a bunch of witchcraft and black magic from women trying to ruin the lives of men and then spent the absolute MOST time on a weird “hypothetical” about NDAs..like wtf is WRONG with this dude?!?!?
Oh my god, great connection you made there. An actual colleague of his can come to him and confide in him that she has been raped or assaulted and he would have to think about whether it’s believable or not, whether she’s a trustworthy person. But Louis CK, a man he has never met and doesn’t know at all, a man who admits that for years he’s taken advantage of women and has done disgusting things in front of them, he absolutely believes.
I hate Matt even more now.
Next time he speaks I want him to name the women, he preyed on and silenced. If not sit down pervert.
So much explaining for an innocent guy. I am sorry, but when someone obsessively talks about something and want to appear righteous, they talk too damn much with new and improved explains.
Well, it was like this see…what I meant was that…how it REALLY happened was…Ok now I understand, and so this is what I need to say…I had no idea because it all seemed…If I had known see…I never heard a thing…I am really a good person…
Yup. This prefer much confirms that he’s the actor that told Chastain to ‘calm down’ Just like we all thought. Canceled forever.
Great comment!
Do you know who just doesn’t need to weigh in on this topic? MATT DAMON!
Does he just not have PR people or do they really hate him? Or does he have them and he just ignores them because god almighty, why isn’t someone on his team screaming “QUIT TALKING AND SHUT THE F*CK UP ALREADY!”.
Every single time he opens his mouth he makes it worse. Every time. The whole interview is so smugly tone deaf and up his own ass it’s ridiculous. No one is listening to you, Matt. Just stop.
What is it they say about you and the company you keep? If he’s happy to look the other way when it suits him, what is he asking for in return? Much the same?
Also, where in the hell is his PR person? Has anyone checked on that poor sod? Are they okay? Or have they just done a runner, at this point?
Yes, I’ve checked. His PR person has teamed up with his PA and they’re currently looting Damon’s house. Not judging, working people need to think about their financial future.
The only part of what he said that I agree with (hear me out) is that sexual misconduct is a spectrum of misbehavior. That’s true… an unwanted pat on the butt is not the same as rape. And we should have some incentive for men to own their behavior. Trump and Roy Moore had vastly different reactions than did Franken and CK… if they just deny and lie about it, isn’t that worse than owning it, saying you believe the women, and voluntarily relinquishing your power?
I agree with you. I think there are a lot of factors to consider when looking at certain situations and abusers. Times are changing, that’s a big one. I think a lot of the ass grabbing, inappropriate comments and propositions were considered the norm many years ago, especially in business and office settings. I’m not saying it was acceptable, but it happened and women couldn’t speak up, times were different and women were lucky to be allowed to work. A big part of it is arrogance too, I think a lot of these people are too stupid and cocky to know the difference, they think the women are flattered on want the attention, when in reality it was demeaning. I’ve had a lot of conversations recently with my grandmothers who both worked in offices in the 60s and 70s.
Someone like Harvey Weinstein is on another level, I believe he’s a straight up rapist. A conniving, scheming, rapist. I automatically count someone out if they defend Roman Polanski or woody Allen, both should be in jail for the rest of their goddamn lives. The fact that so many people voted for rob Moore blows my mind. People who harass, abuse or intimidate children are the scum of the earth.
I still can’t figure out what category trump belongs in…maybe his own? Anywqy I’m just rattling on at this point..I could go on forever but it’s depressing me. So many people I admired have turned out to be disgusting…I applaud every victim who comes forward, I believe you all. #metoo
Odetta, I read every word of your ramble. The truth is we are all learning together in real time, and we are still in the processing phase. Sometimes we need to ramble to process all these things that are connected but we don’t know how yet.
Creating a safe space for victims to come forward is so important, and I’m so happy we are having this moment. I also think we need to have a safe space for well intentioned men to learn. Put another way: is there room among the woke for the still waking? Right now, there’s not. And that’s a mistake.
We are evolving and read your “ramble” Odette. We are figuring out how to keep victims safe now and in the future. This is new, and we are learning and hopefully calibrate so we make sure the culture shifts permanently.
We are at a point where we do have to draw a line and focus the movement if this is going to stick. Right now the most significant predators and assaulters have to go. Immediately.
There have to be different responses to different actions. I suppose you can apply physics in a sense. If a person throws a brick off the first floor and hits someone, it hurts but if they do it off the 100th floor, it kills someone.
He is like the predictable guy. I knew they were looking for just the right case to hide behind and I knew it would be the Franken thing. I didn’t want that to be a distraction from the Weinstein/Moore violence. Or Russell Simmons. He and Terry Richardson have a lot in common. He terrorizes models. There are vats of tea with this guy to be spilled.
This can never be about revenge, or we lose the plot, and we go back to he said/she said and she always loses in that scenario. If a guy wants an investigation do it so we can never be accused of refusing due process. I know I know that phrase is so worn out it is threadbare but we can’t let these creeps down the road MD, and now Tavis Smiley is going down. If someone admits it, it is better for the victim, and they get the showdown they deserve. If the investigation clears someone, then that will be proof the movement is about justice.
It has to be less reactionary about one guy to clean house of hundreds for the sake of future victims. We have to be real and have different responses to different degrees of the accusations.
You said it way better than me, magnolia. Of course when I was reading Damon’s interview I was like “nope, nope, HELL nope, and then, hmm. He’s kind of right about that spectrum thing. We need to start looking st the long game.”
Franken and Louis CK worried a lot of these dudes (am I extrapolating too much to assume they are Bernie Bros? Maybe). But I expect a political backlash against Sen. Gillibrand for her fierceness re: Franken. If we group Franken in with Roy Moore, that backlash against us will be way worse.
Socially, I think we will lose good allies if there is no space for personal growth and zero tolerance for mistakes.
I agree with you totally about not leading from a place of reaction, instead we should lead proactively. Refocusing our energy toward justice is the best way possible. And yes, it is far better when the perpetrators own their mistakes and apologize immediately. We should applaud that, even though the underlying action is abhorrent.
Sorry for my jumbled thoughts!
I agree that it’s a spectrum but within the context of everything else he said, it just comes across as mansplainy excuses.
This is one of many reasons why WE AS WOMEN should be discussing the issue and men need to take a back seat. That’s not to say that stories of men who are abused by men should not be told, just that men who have not been victimized need to STFU and let women lead this time.
This is our movement, and they need to listen. Matt Damon is a slug. He is trying to find ways around his own behavior, and he is intelligent enough to find a morsel of truth in his statement. When men start to try to define it FOR us, they need to shut up. You don’t lead women or me, and we don’t take our cues from men anymore. Your day is done, and you get no more privilege.
It is very true. But the fact that he recognizes something so basic doesn’t make much difference. Of course stabbing someone to death is worse than slapping their face. Do I get a cookie for pointing that out? Does that make slapping people okay and should I just calm down and accept it if someone does it to me? Be thankful I wan’t stabbed and move on quietly with my life?
What we are dealing with is essentially a culture clash. One culture (men, usually white, and usually of a certain age) has been indoctrinated to think that groping and lewd comments are merely “naughty” and not really a big deal. Because to them, it isn’t. It’s a harmless bit of fun that they’ve seen played for laughs countless times, and because there’s no physical damage, then no harm no foul. Men are taught that only physicality matters, so the emotional and psychological impact of their actions doesn’t occur to them. And never having been on the receiving end, it never would. So of course they would think “oh calm down” when another culture (say, the women on the receiving end) complain about it.
There’s a very simple test every man can employ to know if his “harmless fun” is indeed harmless and fun. Envision a man the size and fitness level of the Rock saying or doing to you the exact thing you propose to inflict on a woman. Added twist, the Rock lookalike is your boss and controls your financial stability and career future. Would that be fun? Harmless? Easily brushed aside? Or would it perhaps be frightening, intimidating, demoralizing, and everything that’s the opposite of fun and harmless? How loudly, if at all, are you going to complain about it?
Best post on the board
Very well put! I agree with both you and Mel.
I literally tell (White, entitled, poor me even saying hello is sexual harassment now) men I know to talk to women as they would The Rock, with respect and a small amount of fear, and they will rarely go wrong.
Great great post.
There’s a very simple test every man can employ to know if his “harmless fun” is indeed harmless and fun. Envision a man the size and fitness level of the Rock saying or doing to you the exact thing you propose to inflict on a woman. Added twist, the Rock lookalike is your boss and controls your financial stability and career future. Would that be fun? Harmless? Easily brushed aside? Or would it perhaps be frightening, intimidating, demoralizing, and everything that’s the opposite of fun and harmless? How loudly, if at all, are you going to complain about it?
This needs to be posted everywhere.
Do you have a blog? I wish I blogged so that I could quote you.
I know I’m two days late, but I wanted to suggest using Trump instead of The Rock as an example, not only because Trump is disgusting in every sense of the word, but because he is in fact a sexual predator with a lot of power.
FTR: I had the patience to read **all** of it. He is SO STUPID! I don’t know where to start!!!!!
Just shut up Matt. Shut up.
Let him talk! Please! Let him say every little stupid thing he has in that tiny brain of his.
Let him air all the shit out so everybody knows who he is and they stop kisaing his ass and putting him in movies and giving him millions of dollars.
Awwwww …. weally, Matt?
He should actually eat literal shit. It might shut him up for a few minutes.
Typical Hollywood delusion: I spent years PRETENDING to be smart, so that means I am an authority on EVERYTHING and I get to tell women to shut up when they threaten my precious douchebros.
LOL, I literally just got done reading Armie Hammer’s unfortunate recent comments on Roman Polanski before seeing this post.
Why are these dudes so determined to keep digging themselves in deeper?
DEAD TO ME.
Which is sad cause I bloody love Jason Bourne.
It can be recast
I just came here to say: fuck this guy.
On behalf of everyone I would like to say:
Shut TF up Matt Damon. Seriously. Stop talking.
“Any human being would have put a stop to it….”
No, Matt. There were a lot of human beings NOT putting a stop to it, you dumbsh*t. That was how he got away with it for so long. There were assistants, and agents, and gossip mongers, and executives and entire legal teams all seemingly f*ucking devoted to helping/enabling/covering it up.
Probably, until you pull your head out your ass, you should just shut the hell up.
Jesus. He has to WORK to be this stupid. I mean, he’s the one that got into Harvard, right? So to say something this disconnected from reality… he really, really WANTS to be this g*damn clueless.
Doesn’t he have like three of four daughters?….my daughter is five and I don’t know how much time I spend worrying about something like this happening to her when she’s older. Matt Damon is only concerned for himself and his buddies, he shows no sympathy for the victims and if he does it seems like an afterthought.
Yes, 3 daughters and a stepdaughter. As I said above, what will he do if one of them come to him and say she was assaulted.
@swak. He’d probably ask her what she was wearing…sadly I’m not making a joke
@ swak
Oh, he’d care about HIS wimmens. Its all those others that need to put sexual harrassment in perspective, and realize that if it was REALLY a problem, some human being (read- man) would have stepped in to stop it.
How has NOONE in his life stepped in to tell him to stfu already?
“I don’t know Louis C.K….but I can imagine he’s not going to do these things again” – maybe not. But he would have continued. They all would have continued if the culture hadn’t shifted the way it has with the #metoo movement this year.
The problem is that we live in a culture where powerful men have gotten away with mistreating women around them because theyre powerful men. They’ve abused their position, their money and their clout to do this repeatedly to women in every position around them. Yeah, a serial rapist is “worse” than a serial butt grabber but they’re all part of the same problem: a misogynistic culture full of beliefs that have both allowed and in a way caused men in power to do the things they do.
Matt is as bad. The bullshit he’s saying from his position of clout is damaging and evoking his miseducation in a system that doesn’t value women.
He’s been over for me for a while but #mattdamoniscancelled
He needs to go home, sit down, and read Salma Hayek ‘s op-ed. Then shut his face hole for eternity.
Have you seen Harvey weinsteins response to Salmas story. The statement was very detailed on trying to discredit her story. I think this one in particular really bothers Harvey, he obviously tried alot with her and was constantly shut down. Up until now it’s been the same he Denys all non consensual allegations response.
The article I read said Harvey needs Salma’s billionaire husband’s friends to finance his future projects. He’s afraid he won’t get funding if she keeps talking. The pos has learned nothing and I doubt he ever will. Just like Damon won’t ever learn.
Matt Damon is an idiot, right?
Right!
Right. #2
I could not get though all quotes. Too much or too stupid. But he is not wrong, there is a diference between rape and ass grab. However he as a citizen of this world and especially as a man can and should put an end to both and none of those things should be someting women encounter at work, in a subway or at the restaurant. Just no
On the “spectrum” of assholes, the dial is cranked all the way to the right for this guy. His publicist hates him, I think.
FU MD. Conflate this- you ARE one of them. Someone I know shared their own personal history of a devastating, brutal revenge gang rape with me this week ( revenge for successfully prosecuting and jailing her previous rapist). Without misogynistic bystander “friend” a$$holes like MD it would not have happened. 😡😡😡
Oh god that is disturbing. I hope your friend is in counseling and is okay. I am sick to my stomach now.
Thanks. She said she felt weightless and like an enormous weight has been lifted – just by hearing “I believe you”.
The house is on fire and Matt Damon wants to talk about spectrums of fire. Not helpful.
FU MD. Conflate this for your kids- you ARE complicit in this. Someone I know shared their own personal history of a devastating, brutal revenge gang rape with me this week ( revenge for successfully prosecuting and jailing her previous rapist). Without misogynistic bystander “friend” a$$holes like MD it would not have happened. 😡😡😡
Oh my god. Just imagining what your acquaintance has been through . . . my heart hurts for her even while I wish instant karma on her rapists.
I just cannot stand him anymore. STFU, MD.
Golly gee, it must be sooo hard to be a man and have to worry if your rude inappropriate bro behavior is going to be ‘misconstrued’ and your career and personal life might suffer as a result…it’s ONLY sexual harassment, it’s not rape, Matty says.
Oh wait, Matt. That is the life we women have been living since the beginning of time.
F OFF FOREVER.
Matt Damon is the type of white person MLK spoke about. Substitute the word woman for Negro and well…
“I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen’s Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to “order” than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: “I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action”; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man’s freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a “more convenient season.” Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection.” Martin Luther King 1963
Of course he is. This mentality is nothing new and it wasn’t new in MLK’s time. The suffragettes heard that same lukewarm message, gay rights too. Plenty of people who believe in marriage equality find pride parades and public pride demonstrations distasteful and disruptive.
Those in power and those with privilege don’t want the status quo to change, or if they do in theory, they sure as hell don’t want it in practice because then they themselves would have to change. Their lives are just fine, and at the end of the day most people really only care about themselves. If you are prospering, you don’t want an upheaval that would affect (even if only in your mind) that prosperity. Nobody wants to be uncomfortable, and when you’re in a position to maintain that comfort, you will. It’d be great if we could all just quietly manifest equality, but humans and societies don’t work like that.
That entire quote will never not be relevant.
WOW! I need this quote in my life. Truth. This needs to be reposted periodically.
What surprises me is that people are surprised with this.
This is the same special people that made a petition in honor of roman Polanski, that gave an Oscar to casey affleck, that forgot that the actor from assassin creed is an abuser, that loves and works with woddy allen, that defends little lost boy johnny depp, and just pretend that chris brow and R kelly are reclusive artists with no shade problems
This.
Keep digging, Matt. The hole gets ever deeper and you sound even more privileged and stupid the more you speak. You knew about your best bud, you knew enough about Weinstein to say, ” look at him. Of course he’s a womanizer…” Matt doesn’t seem to understand that it is inappropriate to touch a woman EVER without her permission. PERIOD.
Wow I was really confused about what to think of all of this sexual harassment stuff,I’m so glad Matt Damon was able to explain it.(obvious sarcasm)
It’s like unless it’s happening to them, they never believe it. Typical male and his manplaining of what harassment is. Smh – to him we should accept being groped or verbally harassed.
-Hey, is was only sexual harassment, you were not raped and by the way you are not longer a child so behave like a grown woman and stop behaving like a vindictive b*tch-.
F*ck off Matt Damon. I hope your movies continue flopping and you never get your desired best actor’s Oscar
+1
I read that headline, chuckled, and said “of course he does”, and then rolled my eyes. I can’t imagine I’m alone.
He was canceled for me long time ago, but this reinforces even more my decision. When dude Bros get all on their feelings about predorgate 2017 and the #metoo movement, I wonder if they are hoping skeletons in their closet don’t come to the light for them. Talking to you Matt Damon, Tom Hanks, Bryan Cranston…
He starts with a lie. “I think it’s wonderful that women are feeling empowered, etc.” No, he doesn’t think it’s wonderful at all!
He is amazingly inarticulate here, especially the many question marks, the “right?”, ending his sentences, in a clear attempt to get the interviewer on his side.
The most interesting part to me is the last paragraph, and the promise of “scorched earth” against anyone who make a claim against him. I suspect, given the virtual collapse of NDAs, that we may well see those sorts of countersuits, civil defamation cases, etc. against accusers. Damon is talking to a lot of people; I suspect he has given us a window into the thinking among his circle.
Yep, f*ck right off, Matt Damon. This was disgusting. He twists himself into a pretzel trying to justify these behaviors. Oh, just an ill-advised joke. Oh, people need to take personal responsibility. Oh, I don’t know if I’d believe them, unless I knew them really well. F*ck you.
Sit DOWN Matt Damon – you are part of the problem
I’ve had coffee and it’s Friday so I’m going to be positive. I positively hate him.
But seriously, kudos to Peter Travers for asking the questions. Damon’s armor would have been all the way up with a woman but Travers was able to get in there.
And so happy so many others thought of Team America World Police. The best representation of Matt Damon ever.
An aside, is he basically admitting he’s had to mediate a sexual harrassment claim? I mean, he didn’t say it plain, but reading between the lines….
Or am I reaching here? Because that would go a long way towards explaining the whataboutthemen fetish he seems to have developed.
He has a production company. It is quite possible that a dispute between employees went to mediation. Agencies that hear workplace harassment cases and judges all prefer that such cases be resolved through mediation. Doesn’t necessarily mean he himself was involved in harassment.
ETA and I’m not putting that forth as a defense of Matt Damon. I handle these cases for a living. A company can generally be a good place to work, follow all the laws and then one employee can make things difficult for everyone. What then matters in the courts is how the company handles the problem
Fair enough and that is reasonable. He just seems to be personalizing women being able to tell their stories to *anyone* to a degree that struck me as suspicious.
But it could be his belief that women, due to their weak constitutions and minds, are prone to fits of overexaggerations and mistruthiness. They certainly aren’t capable of telling a “joke” from actual harrassment, which would of course, be stopped by any human being witnessing it.
If it seems I am stuck on that particular turn of phrase, it is because I find it shockingly, aggressively, f*ucking stupid. You know, considering.
I hope Matt Damon chokes on Russell Simmons’ Om pendant.
OHMYGOD – WHEN WILL THIS MAN SHUT UP?! STOP TALKING. He sounds so…stupid – and Just completely out of touch.
I feel Matt Damon doesn’t want # me too to get out of hand cuz I think he has some skeletons in his own closet! He is so offensive! He needs to just be quiet!
Once again, a seemingly “good” guy clearly shows he doesn’t care about women’s issues. It’s quite obvious his main concern is that men’s careers are ruined and worries about “false” accusations.
Travers only asked him how movie making would change, he could have hoped it would be safer and more women could b involved. But no, he HAD to talk about how *he* would handle “false” accusations differently now. Wow, Matt, how terrible! It’s such a sad time for men! /s
I dont entirely disagree with everything he says – yes, there is a continuum of behavior we are talking about and yes, there is something more redeemable about how Louis CK responded than many of the others (that doesn’t mean he gets to keep his status though), but there is just something about how things come out of him that really bugs the crap out of me. Like the ‘its wonderful women are feeling empowered to tell their stories’. Really Matt? Wonderful? Is it WONDERFUL?
Isn’t his mom a teacher? I have always got that sense from him and what he says – like a know-it-all teacher that thinks he’s here to educate the rest of us on what is right and wrong. And frankly, I don’t f’in CARE what Matt Damon has to say. Peter Travers- the most useful thing you could have done is just asked him questions about his stupid movie and kept it at that. As if the abuse coming out practically daily isnt tiring enough, why do we also have to deal with these high status men that think they have something to contribute to this that women want to hear? Shut up and listen.
It’s “wonderful” line…such condescension. ..so fake…
Ladies it’s so “wonderful” you are outting these perverts who abuse their power but can you knock it off because it’s hurting their pocket books and they worked really hard by stepping on the backs of little people and abusing their power wah wah
Apologists like Matt Damon are as much of a problem as the perpetrators in my opinion!
You are either with them or against them. Pick a side!
I think anyone of any color should defend themselves against false accusations. It’s difficult to prove either way but get it out there. What make so many of these stories credible is the pattern. People don’t do this type of thing once. So if one person try’s to blow Matt up as he puts it then of course he should defend himself. He sounds worried though like he’s putting someone on notice.
It is a pattern but it won’t necessarily come out. Seems like post-Weinstein people have placed the threshold of belief on having 5+ accusers. If someone specifically targets crew members, a group that’s unlikely to speak, even if 1 comes forward; it’s a lot. I’ve seen people say Casey Affleck had *only* 2 accusers, the producer & cinematagrapher. Well, if that’s his target, I don’t expect more allegations to come out, it’s unlikely to say th least.
What gets me about the many, many things he said is that he never once had a word for how sexual abuse impacts women. How it traumatizes. How it humiliates. How it keeps women down in their careers. Nothing.
He’s too busy feeling sorry for Louis C.K. who isn’t ‘as bad’ as Weinstein and besides, he admitted it so he’s not so bad right? Why can’t the guy just be forgiven?
Damon makes me wanna punch something, hard.
The last paragraph… CANCELLED!
It’s not just the words but his delivery—go watch the video of him explaining “real” diversity to black female producer Effie Brown and you’ll want to scream at his smug sanctimonious bloated ass
Never paying a dime to see any of his films and I hope Downsizing bombs like his wretched Suburicon.
He needs to just stop talking. Every time he just gets worse and worse. Grabbing someone’s butt and child molestation are not the same but guess what they both count as assault because it’s NOT CONSENSUAL. You cannot establish a “hierarchy of suffering” especially on something you have never experienced. Survivors of abuse do enough of self blame and minimizing for someone to come and say “well ok you were “just” groped/raped but child rape is worse….” And guess what douchebag, the entire Penn State scandal proved that people DONT act even when abuse happens in their face. It’s just a psychological phenomenon that happens in the name of self preservation and not any sort of character fault. He just doesn’t understand everything about what is happening and why and it is evident he is scared to death of any skeletons in his closet.
I’m a little shocked. at how out of touch he is that he’d actually expose how out of touch he is. Yikes. Most people would just shut up.
it shows his arrogance
“I don’t do deep dives on this” We can tell, Matt. We can tell.
Let’s summarize his points, shall we?
-He mainsplained that a pat on the butt is different than rape. (Thanks, we are aware).
-Assault or harassment is OK and “workable” if you admit it. (Louis CK example).
-Friends are to be instantly believed, but a colleague is probably lying.
-If you know someone is a jerk enough that you don’t want to spend time with them or wouldn’t want them involved with someone you care about, sure, it’s OK to keep working with them repeatedly, as long as it benefits you.
-No matter what people tell you, like say your best friend tells you a producer tried to assault his girlfriend, it’s OK – as long as you didn’t see it with your own eyes or there were photos, you can deny you (and everyone) had any idea. You can even finally admit you did know something because you were told, and then follow it up in later interviews and again claim total ignorance.
-The good ol’ days of private settlements are done, and sure hypothetical situations where you used to settle but would now have to sue to protect your good name are NEVER about real things that happened, and no one will EVER be suspicious that you have made some settlements over the years.
C.A.N.C.E.L.E.D.
I don’t think the hypothetical situation is about sth he was actually involved in, it seems to totally add up with Casey’s case( important movie, close to release, 10 years ago, etc.) Except it wasn’t a kiss and a grab, it was 50 pages of detailed lawsuits by women with behind the scene careers. And of course Matt believes his bro over a pair of women who had everything to lose by speaking up.
Kind of lays his whole character right at your feet, doesn’t it? And for the record, #me too NEEDS to get out of hand.
That picture of the three of them? Palpable disgust that just put me off my breakfast.
He is a wolf in ‘woke guy’ clothing.
The saddest thing about this interview is the treatment Matt seems to reserve only for female colleagues who have been abused, and come to him for help.
He is not an ally.
Repeat, Matt Damon is NOT your ally. And he is not your friend.
He is so very far from being an ally he basically plays for the other team, jeering from the sidelines. “Calm down!” “Its not a big deal!” “Walk it off Rookie!”
Emperor’s New Clothes b*tch. We SEE you Matt Damon. And you naked as hell :-/
Yup.
he’s pure scum. On the NDA thing he’s basically projecting and actually explaining CASEY’S exact case. And funny how he straight out saying that women who sign NDA and settle out of court are lying. He should BE GONE already.
Really sad…
I love the big fat warning he threw out there at the end—accuse me of anything and I’ll sue your ass to the end of time. Jerk. Did anyone see the old video clip of his buddy Ben Affleck groping and mauling the woman who was trying to interview him? I bet Matt is guilty of the same type of crap.
His oldest daughter is freaking 19 years old. That alone should be a good indication to shut the hell up about this.
These predators going after the young and powerless. They won’t care her father is Matt Damon.
I hadn’t know much about him and hadn’t paid attention, until he did this illogical and offensive movie “The great wall”. He was finished for me after this and now he’s just digging himself a deeper grave. What an asshole, honestly!
F*ck Damon. F*ck his opinions. F*ck his voice. F*ck his face. F*ck his movies. F*ck his career.
AMEN!
Matt Damon, Matt Damon, I really really used to love you and now think of you as being as dumb as you look. You. Just. Do. Not. Get. It.
He has daughters doesn’t he? You’d think he’d know better. Also, what I think is happening is Men in power are sh*tting their pants right now…worried the world is turning on them lol. They are trying to justify horrible behavior. Sorry dudes, your time is up…well overdue !
What a mess. Just checked the news and thankfully he is getting trashed across the board for this.
YAS! He’s even being dragged on the Daily Fail, nice!!
Apparently men just cruise along in their own little world and never have a clue of the number of women and children who are assaulted. And apparently each man who *does* assault figured only he and maybe one or two of his buddies were “like that”. Of course they’re freaking out because we are turning over all the rocks and showing the world what we have endured for our lifetimes. They don’t have a license to hunt anymore.
After reading that mess all I have to say is Matt needs to be investigated.
Yep. This man definitely has something to hide. His whole attitude screams of “these bitches are out to get us, and we won’t let that happen!”
My first thought was, I wonder what skeletons are in his closet.
Doesn’t his guy have a publicist to tell him to shut up?
I’m just waiting for Matt ‘s skeletons to start tumbling outta his closet. he is dead to me
SMDH
Though all of this should be viewed as NOT NORMAL, sadly, through sheer numbers/exposures, we risk being being inculcated to apathy.
NOT
NOR
MAL
“You know what I mean? … I knew I wouldn’t want him married to anyone close to me. But that was the extent of what we knew, you know?”
Did Matt Damon come out in support of either presidential candidate last year? If I’m judging based on this delightful sound bite, he voted for Trump. This is almost word for word how I heard someone defend their vote. I found out one of my exes voted for the Pussygrabber in Cheif, and I texted him incredulous. I told him I needed an explanation from someone with a niece he treats like a daughter, with lgbtq memebers of his family…. HOW? How could he justify this?
His response? “I wouldn’t let him within 10 feet of any of the women in my life, but I think he knows what he’s doing with the economy.” 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
Matt Damon is another privileged, white f*ckboy and he can rot with all the rest of them as we burn down the patriarchy. I would bet my life he voted Trump, and that it’s only a matter of time until the NYT expose comes out about his own behind the scenes activities. F*ck you dude.
Omg. He knows what he is doing with the economy? Had he done no reading about the turd who defaulted on all manner of debts and filed for bankruptcy SIX times? Such an egregious fiscal record, in fact, that no domestic institutions would lend him money? That via his own son’s loose lips, we learned that Russian rubles are flowing through his real estate deals? omg.
Another non- thinker who fell for the cult of personality.
This is why you can’t trust other people’s assessment on “nice” guys. That is how Damon is often described, and while he may have manners, he’s still ignorant as shit. His type of ignorance is dangerous too, because he’s actually in a position of power to negatively affect people with his views.
Isn’t what Louis CK did really bad? I don’t think I remember the details (there are so many predators and so hard to keep track of all of them), but I was under the impression from my first reading that what he did to the women was rather traumatizing, even if it may not have been outright rape.
CK repeatedly forced female colleagues to watch him masturbate. At least once it involved actually locking the woman in the room. Other times he blindsided them and took advantage of their shock and horror. These were female comedians who have a tough enough time in their profession, and he was cutting them down to size.
Matt Damon doesn’t get to decide that certain people deserve a comeback just because they admitted what they did or because to Matt it wasn’t that bad.
Yeah, that sounds really bad to me. That sounds like it belongs at the very bad end of the spectrum he’s using as an example, even if penetration is not involved. That act would cause trauma.
Has Matt Damon touched himself in front of a woman without her consent? I’m beginning to wonder…
Matt, you need to calm down.
Matt Damon is a steaming pile of human garbage. #cancelled #beencancelled #ihopeyourstupidasshoneyishrunkthekidsassmovietanksattheboxoffice
You know, the best thing a lot of men – especially white men – could be doing right now is keeping their mouths shut on the issue. That’s it. Nothing more or less than that. The fact that so many of them can’t help themselves just kind of makes a huge statement on its own, whether they realize it or not.
I still remember the mandatory sexual harassment seminars we had to attend when I worked for the Smithsonian back in the early 90’s : even having a non-involved 3rd party listening in to/overhearing certain kinds of conversations was considered harassment. The rules were VERY clear. Then and now.
While he acknowledges that the behaviors are on a physical contact continuum, he fails to acknowledge that someone who indulges his impulses on one end of the continuum ( with impunity) can at any point move to a more concerning and violating point on his theorectical continuum. And therein lies the problem.
Zero tolerance, Matt. Zero tolerance.
Good point!
Excellent, salient point!
I disagree somewhat but not entirely. You can’t punish someone for what they might do unless they have done it before. This is the theory used to keep people in prison too long and police use this to murder black men. He “might” have had a gun. It is very dangerous to refuse to see nuance and grey zones because it stops conversations and realistic goals.
Zero tolerance for behavior, absolutely but we have to have measured responses.
My zero tolerance is meant to say that none of it is acceptable. I did not speak specifically of punishment.
At all.
Oh dear god, and in related news, multiply-accused predator Russell Simmons is trying to start a #notme movement. This is starting to feel like a SNL skit.
Just shut up Matt. I used to like him… He’s only saying these things because his friends are getting called out (and he’s probably next).
Shut up you overpraised, overpaid, privileged ahole.
This isn’t mansplaining, he’s presuming to school women on what is and is not abusive. Al Franken – you know what? Tired of the handwringing over his stepping down. What happened to Al Franken is 100% his fault. If he stepped down because the party asked him to, instead of undergoing a formal inquiry, that’s on him as well. He should have had more damn sense than to use unwilling women as props for his hammy jokes.
I don’t get his defence of Louis CK. Of all the examples to pick, why did he pick that one?
Probably because CK wasn’t accused of putting his hands on a woman, and Damon thinks that masturbating in front of someone who is forced to watch is on the “lower end” of this scale he invented of some sexual assault being less serious than other sexual assault.
Oh, and because he’s an ignorant assface.
This man has always made me a little stabby. But now? It’s way beyond mere stabby.
Matt Damon? I don’t know him.
Wow, this is beyond stupidity. It’s a great interview in the sense that we’re really getting to hear Matt’s willful denial of all women’s suffering. Also, what price has Louis CK actually paid and is it really so disproportionate to the abuse he committed? That’s not been my impression.
Matt is coming off as the epitome of the nice guy who feels entitled to women/sex just for not raping them. Cancelled for me as well.
It’s long past the time when he should have shut his pie-hole. He’s shot himself in the foot again and again and has done more damage to his reputation than he can imagine. But keep on “#metoo-ing” ladies, no matter what Dickhead Damon says, this is one movement that will continue until men understand that women should be be treated as human beings, not walking vaginas.
So when’s his publicist going to quit?
Well, thanks Matt Damon for mansplaining this to all of us *eye roll* cancelled. So effin’ cancelled. Scorched-earth style.
I do not believe that people did not know. Maybe some truly did not, but I think the majority knew (whether they witnessed the behavior, were told by a friend – whatever) and just did/say nothing because they didnt want their careers to go up in flames or didnt care.
And sexual abuse is sexual abuse whether you do it in private or for a picture for lots of people to see.
Watching his interview made me fantasize about glove slapping him mid sentence
Made me want to throw rotten vegetables at him.
At first I this was all about his bro Ben Affleck. He thinks he has Ben’s back by defending sexual harassment. However, as I read on I thought, “He protests to much!” He’s done something himself. Whose butt has he grabbed? I won’t be surprised if someone comes forward about Matt Damon soon especially since he can’t seem to shut up and stop his mansplaining to us women who are just getting “carried away.”
I can almost hear his next interview: “I sat down with my agent, my lawyer and my accountant. My agent told me explicitly that the more I say in interviews, the less salary I can ask for as a leading man. My lawyer told me how many NDAs I need signed to make #metoo go away. And my accountant said all those NDAs will cost more in legal fees than the salary I will take home after taxes, fees etc. So, I can officially only make movies now that gross over $1 BILLION…SO I GOT WARNER BROTHERS TO GIVE ME EVERY ROLE IN THE DC FRANCHISE!!! I am going to be the best Wonder Woman EVER! Also, I’m going to make more money from suing people who speak out against me than I ever made as an actor!”
Hee. Hee. Best comment DR. MRS. THE MONARCH.
I hated his character in Good Will Hunting and now I hate Matt Damon. What an out-of-touch jackass. That is all.
Oh Matt. Please just sit there and look pretty. Next time you have a thought, let it pass. Oh if you could smile more, that would be nice. You look prettier when you smile. That’s said with a lot of sarcasm.
He needs to have several seats. I feel for his daughters.
His constant need for validation… “right?” “Ok?” “Right?” And that last paragraph. Wow…
STOP TALKING MATT DAMON! Every time he opens his mouth it just gets worse. It’s as if he’s trying to find a way to make everything look better, but the outcome is the opposite!
And he’s coming across as a huge Louis CK fanboy, so he’s trying to find a way to paint him in a positive light because oh, he likes his standup. He gives the impression of being so clueless male-centric.
“If it’s a colleague … I don’t know … I guess it depends on the situation and the allegation and how believable I think it is.”
What. The. Hell.
Who the eff appointed this arrogant turd to be the arbiter of whether someone was abused or not? If a colleague tells his their house got burgled, does he say “I guess it depends on the situation and the allegation and how believable I think it is.”
According to his powerful intellect and insight into the situation? Because we women are so flighty we’ll just make shit up for fun, and it is up to men to decide whether it is “believable” or not?
Oh yeah, I am now convinced it WAS Matt Damon who told Jessica Chastain to “calm down”.
He won’t realize his complicity in rapey bro culture until it’s too late.
Yeah bro, girls are like crazy,right? So it’s important to like, make sure they aren’t lying about everything, right?
I’ll go scorched earth on them now that we regular people have found out what’s been going on.
They can pretend degradation, depravity and outright criminal acts are actually “art” all they want. They can tell themselves that over and over again and try to convince themselves, but no one is buying their pathetic excuses, their sick and desperate, last-chance rationales.
Art is beautiful, uplifting and wondrous, but also confronting at times when the intention is to document past injustices and tell stories. However, purposefully assaulting people under the guise of creativity and “art” is wrong and sociopathic.
Do they know a lot of people want their sick “industry” to burn?
Paraphrase: I do believe that there’s a spectrum of behavior, right? And we’re going to have to figure — you know, there’s a difference between, you know, between me supporting lots of sexual predators for my whole career, and Johnny Depp beating his women, right? Both of those behaviors need to be confronted and eradicated without question, but they shouldn’t be conflated, right? I mean, we still get to have a Hollywood career right? But maybe I should get more work, you know what I mean? Right? Response: Yes, according to IMDb, you are correct. It’s also correct that you have the mental acuity of a bran muffin.
You know what I realized over Thanksgiving? ‘Good Will Hunting’ is actually a fairly sh-tty movie. Robin Williams is the best part of that sad sack, by far. Matt Damon and Ben Affleck are hasbeens to me. I don’t like any movies Matt Damon is in. Please let Bourne be someone else in the next film. Also, to Matt Damon’s publicist, please put him in the cone of silence, for the sake of everyone’s sanity. I can’t take his half baked drivel. Could he be any dumber?
The therapy in Good Will Hunting is pretty darn problematic:
https://respecttheblankie.com/2017/07/19/good-will-hunting-dumb-hollywood-therapy/
Also, as that article points out, the only women in the story are the girlfriend role, and the therapist’s character merely-mentioned dead wife whose defining trait is that she passed gas in her sleep, a section Williams improvised apparently.
I thought it was problematic af too when I saw glimpses of it. I just meant from the standpoint of acting talent, Robin Williams was much better than anyone else in the film. I also found the dialogue insufferably bad.
Hey, Matt Damon –
CALM DOWN
The only thing Matt Damon is worried about is Matt Damon’s career. His publicist should fire him. May we not have to discuss this poster child of white privilege again for a very long time.
He did some reality show, I think it was called project green light. There was some controversy over the way he treated the female judge. I could be wrong it was a while ago
You’re not. I pretty much wrote him off then. So obtuse and yet patronizing.
https://jezebel.com/matt-damon-interrupts-successful-black-woman-filmmaker-1730553152#_ga=1.154541114.349897543.1451245580
Even then, it was basically: my experience is the only experience; my view is the only view; be quiet, woman.
I rewatched that & somehow I can know see the racism and sexism of that moment linked more clearly.
I practically hate men as a group. One woman comes forward, why do I have so many more stories…? I have just thought men are were gross.
I really, really don’t like Matt Damon.
Alyssa Milano wrote (tweeted) an open letter to this twit today. It’s really good. If you’d asked me 6 months ago who would become one of the prominent voices in hollywood on this issue, I never would have thought of her but she’s impressing me with her work.
I know!!!!! The tough cookie from W T B? And Tony Danza is a conservative, no?
WTF! So many movies and tv series have been ruined for me because of these predators. Now the ones that aren’t even accused are ruining it further because of their ignorance and defence of those that are! Seriously Matt, Good Will Hunting!? WTF happened?!
On Colbert the other day, he whined about how few people bothered to see Suburbicon.
I hope this shrinky-dink movie also deservedly flops (the undercurrent of misogyny in Alexander Payne films also, ugh), then hopefully he can retire.
Also, so sickening that when that top photo was taken, Affleck and Damon knew full well what Weinstein had done to Paltrow and McGowan at the very least, and still not only posed with him but hugged on him with big dumb grins on their faces. Shows how even rich, powerful men will debase themselves for the promise of more, and support harmful, criminal jerks to that end.
I know you guys say some celebs read this site. If anyone needed to read the comments somewhere, it’s Matt Damon. Not just so he realizes how his words might affect his own bottom line (which I know is what he’d actually care about), but maybe he could actually be educated in the process.
the more this guy yaps the more i think, he doth protest too much. This mansplainer must have skeleton(s) in his past. I’m gonna sit tight and wait for stories about him to come out.
Dear Matt Damon, to quote someone much funnier than me. “Shutting the fuck up is free!”
Lol.
He must live in fear every day now and becoming paranoid. The stories about how controlling he is at home now make perfect sense.
The comments on Matt Dumb-mon are life and proves women are the most rational, eloquent, empathetic and intelligent of the genders. I was willing to give him a pass on that whole diversity thing because privileged whites are really ignorant when it comes to diversity (they love to pretend they understand). So I was like, well maybe he’ll learn something from this experience. But this dimwit is just that an entitled a-hole who has made millions off the status quo. He doesn’t want change, it’s served him well. Hopefully he and his douche bros can retire into that great night, cause they all canceled, him and Ben & Casey Affleck.
Kudos to Matt Damon for consistently having the courage to speak up for the real victims in society: wealthy, white men. If only that oppressed and misunderstood group could finally catch a break. 🙄
To crib from one of those dead white guys … Better to say nothing and be thought a fool than open your mouth, sound like Matt Damon and confirm you’re an ignorant, entitled tool.
When I first saw Matt Damon in early films like School Ties…oh idk, I couldn’t stand him. Of course he played a jerk back then. However I really grew to like him & enjoy his acting. Now I’m back to square one with him. What a tone deaf moron. He’s canceled for me too. No more of my moolah.
For me, Affleck was always cancelled. Just never liked him. Thought he was a crap actor.
“as long as nobody’s committing a crime”
Yes Matt
Touching women & having sex with women against their will isnt a crime its perfectly legal.
Harvey is a great guy.
Tell me Matt would you leave any female (woman or child) alone with Harvey?
I didnt think so