I’m sort of living for how much Eminem hates Donald Trump. Em has not shied away from talking about politics in depth as he promotes his latest album, Revival. Em’s politics have always been pretty liberal – he’s anti-authoritarianism, he was anti-Bush and now he absolutely despises Trump. Em talked to NY Magazine’s Vulture about the album, but most of the conversation was about Trump. I was pleasantly surprised by his nuanced political thoughts. You can read the full piece here. Some highlights:
He honestly hates Donald Trump: “He makes my blood boil. I can’t even watch the news anymore because it makes me too stressed out. All jokes aside, all punch lines aside, I’m trying to get a message out there about him. I want our country to be great too, I want it to be the best it can be, but it’s not going to be that with him in charge. I remember when he was first sniffing around politics, I thought, We’ve tried everything else, why not him? Then — and I was watching it live — he had that speech where he said Mexico is sending us rapists and criminals. I got this feeling of what the f–k? From that point on, I knew it was going to be bad with him. What he’s doing putting people against each other is scary f–king sh-t. His election was such a disappointment to me about the state of the country.
He really wants Trump to talk sh-t about him: “It’s not so much about him hearing something I have to say, because there’s nothing I’m saying about him on Revival that he doesn’t already know about himself. It’s more that I want him to answer me because I got ideas for all kinds of sh-t to say back to him if he does. I’m not going to give any away now, but I’ve got lines ready if he says something about me. I get almost flustered thinking about him — that’s how angry he makes me. The people that support him are the people he cares about the least and they don’t even realize it. At what point do you — a working-class citizen, someone who’s trying to make sh-t better for you and your family — think this guy who’s never known struggle his entire f–king life, who avoided the military because of bone spurs, who says he’s a billionaire, is really looking out for you? He’s got people brainwashed.
His hopes for 2018: “I hope he gets impeached. I’d be there for that.”
He was mad at Trump supporters for a time too: “Yeah, Trump had me so mad with all his bulls–t that I was thinking, I hope everybody who voted for him gets f–ked and learns a lesson. But that was wrong. I don’t want any voters to get f–ked; everyone’s trying to improve their lives. I just feel mad that Trump’s sold people a dream that’s never coming true. I want the division in this country to stop. And like I said, I most want people to take a second and think about what I’m saying.
Whether he has any unique insight on Trumpism: “I did have a feeling early that he could win. Pretty much everyone I knew was like, “No, he can’t get elected” and I was watching those rallies going, “Yo, man, this sh-t is real.” But I don’t know if that has anything to do with any parallels between me and him. I took the fact I was poor white trash and I owned it. So I could understand why people who grew up in similar situations would relate to what I was saying. But I don’t know, man, the differences between me and him are bigger than any parallels. He’s made the racists come out. He’s made it acceptable for the white man to feel oppressed. I’m just calling bullsh-t bullsh-t: I actually don’t know if I can see why people who relate to me feel like they can relate to him. This is a guy who was born rich, who says he got a small loan from his father of a million dollars. Where I come from, a small loan is five f–king bucks.
Whether he feels like other artists – like Taylor Swift – should speak out against Trump: “I don’t know anything about Taylor Swift’s situation. I can only speak for me, not her. I do feel like when you have a platform, it’s important to use your voice. You can loudly call bullsh-t on things that not everyone can. I don’t know if anyone has a responsibility to do that. That’s something they’d have to look inside themselves and figure out. That’s what I did, and I decided I needed to speak out.
I’ve covered a lot of celebrities talking about Trump over the past two years. In the wake of the election, most celebrities were walking on eggshells and twisting themselves in knots to try to remain above the political fray, or to act as apologists for Trump supporters. How is that a rapper who grew up – as he says – as poor white trash in Michigan is somehow able to thread the needle of anger, personal hatred for Trump, and nuanced political understanding of how Trump was enabled? Like, even George Clooney couldn’t do that.
PS… In this same interview, Em talks about dating, saying: “It’s tough. Since my divorce I’ve had a few dates and nothing’s panned out in a way that I wanted to make it public. Dating’s just not where I’m at lately.” Then he says he meets women through “Tinder. And Grindr. I also used to go to strip clubs. What can I say? Going to strip clubs is how I was meeting some chicks. It was an interesting time for me.”
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