Well, I was wrong about one thing! I said that since Meghan Markle was being invited to enjoy a very German Christmas at Sandringham, it was unlikely that she would get an invitation to the pre-Christmas lunch at Buckingham Palace. This is an annual event for the Windsors – the Queen invites the family to Buckingham Palace about a week before Christmas for a somewhat low-key pre-Christmas lunch. Shortly after this, the Queen and Prince Philip go down to Sandringham and the family generally follows in a day or two. Well, I said I didn’t think Meghan would be invited, but she was. She attended the palace’s pre-Christmas lunch with Prince Harry. They were in the same car and everything.
Of course the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge attended the lunch too. They brought Prince George and Nanny Maria. I guess Charlotte didn’t go? Maybe she’s too little. Or maybe she just didn’t want to go and George was like, “I will send your regards to the Queen.” Other royals in attendance: Peter Phillips and his wife Autumn; Prince Charles and Camilla, Princess Beatrice, Princess Eugenie, Prince Michael of Kent and I would assume all of the Queen’s children.
Some of the Meg-followers on Twitter believe they’ve already ID’d her dress, just based off of what we can see of the shoulders. They think it’s this Self Portrait dress. I agree, that seems like the same dress! It’s very pretty. But I’m starting to worry about Meg’s hemlines. I feel like the Goldilocks of royal hemlines, just know that. Kate’s hemlines are too short and Meg’s are too long and why can’t anyone get a hemline just right?
Photos courtesy of WENN.
I love mid-calf skirt
I was just coming to say the same thing. Even if I didn’t like her hemline, I’m not inclined to care at a private event.
I like the length of the skirt. But I dislike Self Portrait brand because they can’t make a dress without something being faux nude see-through.
Not sure Id wear a faux-see through shirt to lunch with the Queen. It’s still modest so it’s no big deal, just not my cup of tea.
Meghan is gorgeous and could make a trash bag look glamorous. The sleeves, neckline and hemline are appropriate and then some. However… the faux nude bodice is a baddd choice for a Christmas lunch with the Queen. She’s pushing it, which isn’t going to endear Meghan to The Firm. It’s a smashing dress, but inappropriate for the occasion.
I totally agree, I think it is very pretty. She is also so stunning that she can pull off anything
I absolutely LOVE midi hemlines, full or fitted. They’re flattering and elegant, and come across as more “professional”. Good for her.
+100
Well done. Regal, made time to be glamorous for her first meeting with some family members and especially for the festive occasion.
wonderful to see Prince Henry as a Couple on his own Line than with Willnot Cannot.
I think that length is lovely, too. It *can* be overwhelming on a petite frame; should be fine on Meghan. It’s a very pretty dress, although I also have hesitation about wearing something with a peek-a-boo lace bodice. The designer says it has a nude bandeau for modesty – I think that means her stomach and chest are too exposed. My $02.
I’m always surprised when I see these royals driving themselves — don’t ask me why!
Me too but I guess that’s one way to show “oh, we’re just like you, you seeeee, we drive ourselves”. I’ve been in kind of a love-hate relationship with driving but those camera flashes onto the eyes of a driver are crazy. They must drive at 5mph but still. Annoying as heck.
Except we don’t have a nanny in the back minding the children.
I saw one of them took a taxi lol
Princess Anne’s husband came on foot! lol
I think it’s so the little ones make an appearance , then are shuffled out with the nannies to let the adults eat and drink in peace lol.
Also, Charlotte was in the car, too (pics in the Fail). Wow, does she look different in those pics!! Very cute girl. Not sure whom she resembles now lol
Charlotte’s resemblance to Sarah Chatto is stronger than ever. Sarah, being a private person, isn’t plastered over the tabloids so most people go to the next familiar resemblance which is the Queen as an old lady.
Ultimately, Sarah and HM also resemble each other, but Charlotte resembles Sarah more than she resembles the Queen.
This is Sarah as a young woman
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As she looks now
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I’m always surprised when they need a nanny to go eat lunch at grannie’s house.
That’s what I thought too, @aang. So much for middle-class and hands-on parents. But an adult had to be there with the kids otherwise imagine the criticism. And that adult could not have been Carole, with or without Mike. And the kids *had* to be seen #throwbacklastMonday when we were immensely gratified with the months-old picture of them.
The aristocracy use nannies, they just do.
They take the nanny everywhere. Not just to events where they might need another pair of hands to wrangle the kids.
That’s how they were rumbled about the presence of nanny in the household because Kate was papped doing something mundane with G and nanny even though official position was that she was doing it all herself with no nanny or extra help.
Their default position is to deny, deny, deny, but they are lousy at keeping up appearances because they inadvertently get caught doing the very thing they are denying.
Children George’s age can make it impossible to actually socialize at an event like that – and that is not the kind of family where you can count on the other adults to lend a hand.
+1000!
Not able to take care of their own two kids in the family compound.
Will poor Nanny Maria be required to have increase workload to raise cater to all five middelton kids …
Needing a nanny with two children is ridiculous. I have help, but that is because of the size of my family and our travel schedules. But we do a lot of things out of the house and I know it sounds risky but we actually care for them ourselves!
I know someone who has a nanny for each child, and I think that is just decadent. Who wants a fleet of women following you around everywhere attending to one child.
They are royal and more formal, but this is silly.
When it’s an hours long formal lunch, and granny’s house is full of priceless antiques, it really shouldn’t be that surprising. And for them, granny is also the big boss, so it’s kind of as much a work event as a family event.
@RoyalSparkle careful slamming will and kate for using a nanny… undoubtedly, when it comes time, your faves harry and meghan will certainly have a nanny as well. it’s just what is done among their class.
It is surprising they cannot handle their children for a family lunch by themselves. I don’t think Zara/Mike or Peter/Autumn have nannies.
Many royals have nannies which isn’t surprising. The nannies are there to enable the royals to work. When they have nannies, still don’t work enough, and then makes comments disparaging working parents? That’s when they start earning the criticism.
I think Marie and Joachim of Denmark do not have a nanny, they’ve mentioned that in an interview. They schedule their work so that one can be home at the kids most times, otherwise they employ a babysitter. They are lower down on the list and do not have as many royal duties, plus Joachim may have an outside job (like farming was supposed to be his outside job before).
That is such a weird tone to take about nannies.
Such insanity. It’s a formal pre-Christmas lunch at Buckingham Palace with all the relatives in the royal family attending. A two-year-old can be a nightmare, running, running, running. I see nothing wrong going to the Queen’s pre-Christmas lunch and bringing the nanny for your two-year-old and four-year-old, to help out. It does not mean they aren’t also with their parents while there. Of course, they are. And it’s not like it’s going to a regular grandmother’s house for lunch with the relatives.
Women are so bizarrely judgmental about every single thing.
I don’t have an issue with nannies. It is their messaging and using their children as excuses not to work. They say they are just an average family and reject their roles but want the perks. It is weird. During a time when the country is feeling the tight economy, it is not a good optic. She is having another when other women are financially punished for having a third child, but they don’t seem to understand messaging. They are funded by taxpayers, so it is a little different.
Magnoliarose: me too. It’s not the presence of the nannies that is an issue, but the PR of pretending not to have them and claiming they can’t work at all due to taking care of their kids and people who work are bad parents.
On top of the problematic PR, you also discover that they leave their kids for weeks on end for pleasure trips.
It affords the opportunity to have a mobile war-room immediately before the event without drivers overhearing them!
Charlotte is there on the other side of the nanny in other pics I’ve seen.
And she looks quite different from the “Christmas” photo taken 6 months earlier.
That’s what I thought too! She has changed into a toddler overnight.
I don’t think she looks much like the Queen anymore, she looks more like her mother now. She looks like she has Kate’s nose which, along with hairline, are the two things you don’t want to inherit from the royal family, so she’s lucky!
I thought that too. Very different from the 6 months ago photo.
On my phone, so I can’t tell where this is going, but I’m thinking that Charlotte has changed *so* much in the last few months! She is definitely resembling George/Grandpa Mike at this point.
+2
and change from the Christmas card photo months ago …
And Meghan was not invited to a “German Christmas” as implied before as in “a boring” and tightly scheduled event. Most of us with German origins have a very relaxed and prolonged celebration. The only German thing about the Queen’s Christmas is the Eve presents exchange.
Agree….I lived in Bavaria for years and I never attended a stiff or stuffy Christmas event, even at the Residenz, even in Bonn.
Not to be “that person” but is George not in a car seat? Are the laws different in the U.K.? In the US, you have to be in a car seat nearly until college.
LOL Annabelle! You can’t give up the car seat until you have a job and move out!
I know. I totally am that person. I don’t know why George isn’t in a car seat. It’s the law that he should be. Not a booster seat, they’re illegal now, but a real high backed, five point harnessed child car seat.
Illegal where? In NY I just bought one at Target for my 6 yo niece.
@aang I think maybe she means booster seats would be illegal for a child of George’s age, at least in the US. He would likely still be in a 5 point harness here.
I didn’t realise booster seats were illegal????
Since when?
I’m talking UK not US.
I don’t know the UKs laws, but kids have to be so many years old, inches tall and weigh so many pounds in order to ride in a booster.
It’s probably a booster seat. He’s 4 i am sure you can use it from that age depends on weight though
Yikes! my son is smallish for his age (8) and he’s still in a seat. 4 is way too young!
Anyway, Char looks very different…not at all like Kate IMO. She looks sweaty…lol. Must have had fun running about the antiques! Ah, to be a fly on that wall!
I live in Europe and my 4 year old son has exactly the same “car seat” as George. It has protection for their head and uses the seatbelt by adjusting it so it lays correctly across their shoulder and lap.
Obviously, the laws are different than in the USA.
In their core the laws are not different. I am from European background living in Canada and have kids. Have driven both in Europe and here. Boosters are not allowed for children under a certain height or weight or age.
Wrong sleeve length, wrong skirt length. Everything else is ok.
X🙄 How is it “wrong”? Seriously, shallwe get out our rulers and only allow sleeve and hem lengths of exact spevifucitues that you have arbitrarily decided on?
I’m not sure I like Meghan’s dress but her face looks incredibly pretty! Kate on the other hand looks awful lol. It’s amazing to me that while Kate is actually a year younger than Meghan, Kate looks to be a good 20 years older than Meghan.
It’s the makeup. I don’t agree she looks 20 years OLDER. Maybe 5, but not 20 LOL
@cee ok fine maybe not 20 years ( im feeling petty) lol
@alexandria I think that’s a clever observation about the possible reason for her choice of dress length. I happen to love tea length dresses (thanks florc lol). I think if done right they can be so chic.
Actually they’re months apart. For me personally, 20 years is a bit of an exaggeration? Kate looks fine. Meghan looks great.
I think the hemline is because she’s cold and subconsciously to dial down the ‘sexy actress’ image. She is a newcomer to the family and perhaps wants to show respect to the Queen by watching her hemline. I’m not a fan of the hemline because I’m short and I can’t pull it off. I know Meghan is tall but her last hemline kinda didn’t do it for me. I think the shoes spoilt it. She still looked great and glowing.
I don’t think Meghan is tall – I think she is listed at 5ft7in, but if she is 5ft5in, that would be surprising. She looks about 5ft4in and is somewhat petite and curvy. She can’t wear a lot of clothes that tall, willowy models or Kate can wear. I hope she doesn’t try to do so.
Kate’s also pregnant. I never had the glow, and by my third I looked as bad as I felt. Money can absorb a lot of blows; it can’t absorb how awful some women feel during pregnancy.
That’s a good point! Megan doesn’t have two kids and William to contend with either lolll.
My thoughts also. She’s on her 3rd pregnancy and her kids are relatively close together in age. Even with lots of money and help, that’s got to be wearing.
And Meghan looks fantastic for her age (I’m about the same age as they are and I’d say I look a bit younger/better than Kate but nowhere near as glowing and youthful as Meghan). I think she’s got skin that will probably hold up well over time, whereas Kate’s is the kind of skin that needs some pampering and is instead getting subjected to sun and cigarettes all the time!
Very good point. Kate just needs a makeup shake up. Her cat eye application is a bit dated and needs to end, but she’s a pretty girl. Meghan’s make up application is FLAW-LESS.
I’m a year older than Meghan and Kate looks about ten years older than me! #blackdontcrack
Yeah the comments are getting gross and mean as usual. I’m out
I agree, Kate looks much older.
I think Kate’s skin is just suffering the ill effects of all those vacays in Mustique while Meghan obviously has more melanin.
I’m kind of curious to see if Kate will go the whole Botox route or if that’s more of an American thing. Considering Prince William didn’t go for the whole hair plugs thing like a certain other world leader, I would guess the royals are lower key about that stuff?
Suiggisbig: Kate has been botoxing since her wedding. We see her natural face during pregnancies because she don’t tox during this period.
She also looks better during her pregnancies because the added weight suits her.
She goes back to the tox within months of birth.
Meghan turned 36 in August and Kate will be 36 in a few weeks in January. They are essentially the same age.
I have issues with Kate’s make up in general, esp the raccoon eyes and rosy rosy cheeks – she overdoes the blusher and eye makeup.
There’s been a few times where I wonder if Megs is taking Kate’s eyeliner habits. Black liner on top and bottom is hard to make look great. It closes up even larger eyes. Meghan definitely has plenty of photos where she’s gone a bit too heavy on the liner, though, so it’s not even just a Kate thing. I think she looks best with a lighter shade on her lower lids – like most people do. Much less harsh.
I also think Kate’s eyes are more deep-set than Meghan’s which makes a big difference. I have eyes more like Kate’s – and it can be difficult to make eyemakeup look great. A lot of the trends / tutorials I see trending are ones that just don’t work properly on my eyes.
I have somewhat deep set eyes like kate and to combat the raccoon look I only use mascara. I stopped using eyeliner as it was making my eyes look small and it just wasn’t a good look on me. On the rare occasion when i do use eyeliner i tend to lightly add it to the outside corner. A makeup artist told me that using eyeshadow around the edges is better than eyeliner as its softer and you can do more with it.
THese kinds of nasty woman v woman comments are just not okay in my book. The pressure on these women to always be beautiful and perfect is immense. Kate is not a model she is a person. She is also pregnant and a mother of two. Leave the nasty comments about her face at home.
Kate doesn’t look 20 years old than Meghan. That is absurd.
Kate is also pregnant, has two kids, and is maybe not sleeping. Meghan is not working, not doing anything but relaxing.
I hope she looks better than a pregnant mom of two.
Meghan is just a very pretty woman, that’s all.
I think you can say she overdid the makeup when it’s visible through a car window in a poor quality shoot. What is it with Kate and makeup? Why can’t she get it right?
Is the hem called “tea length?” I love it. And I love that hem length. She’s got personality and it shows in her styling choices.
I like that length too. Sophie Wessex started wearing it a few years ago, especially in her Ascot choices, and I think it looks good. I do like that length better in fuller skirts than straight ones.
I love tea length too. It’s become a favorite of mine.
Everyone looks great. Waiting for better pictures tho
Unless they upend all tradition, this is all we see: photos of the guests arriving (sometimes departing) for the lunch. There won’t be any full-length shots unless someone is standing by to take the engagement photos inside.
I love the look of Tea Length dresses/skirts… but they’re hard to wear when you’re short. They kind of cut you off in a weird spot when you’re not tall or willowy.
Tea length looks elegant and beautiful if the skirt is full or has a princess cut. Otherwise it looks constricting and cuts the leg off at a strange place. When I was 14 my mother forced me to wear a full, tea length skirt with a twin cardigan set and Penny loafers. I didn’t appreciate it until much later lol.
love that length too. it’s very chic.
I thought tea length was much closer to ankles? Anywho, it’s very 50s in its silhouette. I’m not wild for the sleeve length or the back high collar. It would have been prettier with a wide boat neck and 3/4 length sleeve with black banding at the sleeve hem, rather than the neck.
They look so cute in the picture driving to the lunch. I like her. I hope she breathes some life into the firm. Maybe the Queen sees it and that is why she has embraced her so quickly. Who knows but I love it.
The entire BRF seems incredibly keen on locking this down as quickly as possible.
Except for Princess Michael, who wore a “blackamoor” brooch with a black woman’s head on it. I didn’t notice until someone pointed it out, and I have no words. I hope to hell that the Queen told her where to stick it.
Here, Here Seraphina!!
The best hemline is below the knee. IMO.
Works for me too.
Yes, especially as we age (knee skin sags)!!
I had to google Prince Michael of Kent – didn’t know who that was. Anyway, he’s one dapper mofo and you can tell there’s some Romanov blood in him. That’s all I got.
Lol he’d totally win the hipster crowd. James Middleton wants to be him.
You’re so right about James! I see it.
Wow, you’re right. I never paid attention before…
Holy Czar! You are right about the Romanov blood.
Yeah, he’s mastered the suave and debonair look.
It’s quite amazing how strongly he resembles the Romanovs unlike Prince Philip. They have the same degree of generational separation in terms of relations to the Romanovs.
They do?! Hmm, interesting. All that inbreeding makes me dry heave.
Tash:Given the inbreeding throughout the royal families of Europe, it’s surprising they don’t have more diseases.
Only the modern royals who have married outside the royal club or even aristo circles have put some new blood into the royal club.
Princess Michael’s brooch makes me dry heave.
Some here may find it interesting to Google Princess Michael (his wife) and Russian friends…The DM and Telegraph have some stories from 2012.
He is one of those royals (Felipe of Spain, Haakon of Norway) who are definitely better with beard. With beard, you could drop him into a photo of Czar Nicholas and George V, and he’d look like the third identical triplet.
#meghanwinsagain. Just from looking at the pictures. She’s poised and elegant. Katie is meh, the usual feeling-good smile again. The first time we see them in the same environment, that’s cars driven by their princes for the same “event”. Not the money shot but still the closest to it until #howmanydaystoChristmasandcounting.
On a side note, Beatrice looks very nice while waiving at the camera. And I thought I saw Kate Moss there but it’s actually Autumn.
Is it just me or has Kate looked totally plastered in every recent photo?
She looks about how I felt when I was pregnant, except about 10x more put together. Growing another human being can really wipe you out.
After 6 years, Kate still mostly looks like she’s putting on a performance. Something as simple as driving in for lunch with a smile on her face is overacted.
If she digs Carolyn Bessette and she’s using her as a reference…then the longer skirts make sense.
I used to go on about how I didn’t see it with Meghan, but I think I was just annoyed by the constant “will they or won’t they??” And I was projecting. She truly is stunning. She looks breathtaking here.
I’d like to see Kate driving Will for a change. Megan gets a pass until she learns the other-side-of-the-road thing. Glad she was invited; no reason not to and kind of a snub if she were left out.
Not sure Kate could drive Wills, even if she wanted to. Girl looks completely sh!tfaced here.
Where I’m from shitfaced means incredibly drunk. Do you really think Kate is hammered before lunch, while being 5-6 months pregnant, or does shitfaced mean something else where you live? I don’t particularly like her, but I really doubt she is drinking her way through this pregnancy.
Er, isn’t she pregnant?
William’s driving.
Perhaps Kate just doesn’t like driving (in London).
Plenty of photos of her driving in London, around Sandringham, etc.
Enny
Shitfaced?? She’s pregnant, smh.
I said she LOOKED sh!tfaced. I doubt she’s actually drunk. Having been pregnant myself, and having had hyperemesis like Kate claims to have, I know first-hand that the antiemetic and other drugs one might take while pregnant for various reasons (such as for anxiety, etc.) can sometimes make you a little euphoric. I didn’t mean to imply that she was drunk, it was a joke and not even a terribly funny one on my part so I apologize. It was in poor taste. She simply LOOKED drunk although of course she was not. I think other posters up-thread are right about her simply over-acting, especially now with Meghan in the picture.
Some delights from the royal reporters’ twitter: Richard Palmer noted that Kate was much smilier than usual arriving at the lunch, and Niraj Tanna pointed out that she has to, since the “Competition is quite strong.”
They might have shut him out, but his commentary remains damaging because he knows how they operate!!
Maybe the rumor is true then. I hoped not but they said Kate snubbed her. Could it still be just a rumor?
Yes!
Good. I don’t want them not to get along. I would love to have a new sister who understands precisely what my life is like and could confide in and trust. The support would be great.
William is so frosty and high maintenance surely a shoulder to lean on would be comforting.
I’ll just dismiss it as a rumor.
hahaha oh the shade
I am not surprised by Tanna being snarky, but from Richard Palmer… well that is interesting.
Those smiles looked to me like the false cheer of a parent trying to keep kids happy/get them excited for an event. “We are going to have so much FUN!” I’m a teacher and you see that grin on a lot of parental faces this time of year in the kindergarten wing. Those kids are so on edge for the holiday, their behavior is a crapshoot.
Who’s the blonde driver?
Autumn Phillips, Princess Anne’s daughter-in-law.
Autumn Philips. Married to Peter Philips, son of Princess Anne.
Autumn keeps growing on me. I thought she was cute with the matching dimples at the beginning. but boy howdy those cheekbones. She isn’t conventionally pretty, but that whole *will age well with great bone structure* definitely applies here.
That’s what I thought. Does Peter not like driving?
Maybe he drank too much.
Or gee, maybe in 2017 almost 2018, women drive the family car – even when the *man* is present.
Kateclooked rather cute driving her son to his swimming lesson at BP.
Peter drove on the way home later.
@nota – I agree with you 100%, but it is surprising how few women actually drive a vehicle when their significant other is in the car with them.
I really like the dress. I wear mid-calf skirts and dresses all the time. They are on-trend right now. So far I’ve liked everything Meghan has worn. She has really great classic style that’s still on-trend.
Gosh Megs is so pretty
I find the constant and never ending comments pitting Kate and Meghan against each other, saying one looks old, and one is jealous and competitive very sad and quite frankly pathetic.
Both women are pretty. Both seem lovely. Personally I like Meghan’s style better and find her more personable but she’s American and Kate seems very British and reserved, which is fine.
I don’t get this constant need to attack and put down. It’s petty, it’s mean and frankly it holds us back. And yes I do think one girl is prettier then the other, and yes I’m more drawn to one couple over all and no it’s not the future head of state but that doesn’t mean I think Kate is terrible.
By the way William is a balding, bore with the personality and fashion sense of a stick and yet we never see the picking apart of him in comparison to Harry.
I’m so excited for this wedding it’s one of the few good things happening and the comments are so gross that I’m not sure I can’t read the info on this site.
I agree. The whole thing is disatasteful.
Why can’t they be supportive of each other, or just neutral, why must they be pitted against each other? It’s nit a competition.
And honestly the constant critiquing if everything Kate wears is tiresome. It’s so often couched in misogyny. Sorry, but forcing women to wear specific lengths of dresses to be considered classy, that’s anachronistic and sexist.
And No one will have the exact length of skirt everyone wants, because guess what, they snagged the prince not you. Their choice.
I suggest you take up your issues with the British Royal Family dress code (including hem length) with the one who sets it – Her Majesty.
I take issue with her majesty as well. if you know her, be sure to pass on my message.
Dress codes are almost all inherently sexist. Your choice to support that by tearing other women down who do not subscribe to the same sexist programming as you isn’t a good look. And using ‘the queen says so’ as a reason is frankly hilarious.
HM is the head of the firm, a company supported with $600 million in taxpayer funds annually. Being a working royal is a job. Where I’m from, you follow your work dress code. Don’t like the code, get a new job or don’t accept this one when offered. Simple.
HM’s dress code is set in logic and function for the job. She doesn’t enforce it for family events, as you can tell by what non-working royal members of the family wear. But for work, there is work dress code. Skirts to the knee or lower, because that way when you bend over or sit down, you aren’t flashing anyone. Hems weighted so you don’t flash. Ditto her requirements of straps an inch wide or thicker, to cut down on accidental lingerie flashing because it is unprofessional. Heel heights 3 inches or lower often for security reasons and because it is rude to deliberately tower over your employers (aka the taxpayers).
HM doesn’t require women to wear skirts or dresses on the job – that would be sexist IMO. Women employees of the firm are welcome to wear trousers, as Anne, Sophie, Camilla do. HM has worn trouser suits on the job herself.
“Where I’m from, you follow your work dress code”
The existence of one sexist framework doesn’t mean the others frameworks are not sexist.
Since tmk The Firm doesn’t have a fashion police with repercussions for missteps, the criticism of both Markle and Middleton comes across as pushing sexist ideals and respectability politics online. Because why point them out otherwise. Would you do better? You’d be a better rule follower? It’s female competitiveness disguised as rule following and virtue signaling and it’s gross.
Nope, the dress code isn’t based in sexism it is based in logic. It is based on hems being long enough not to ride up or flash, weights in hems, straps wide enough not to flash. All professional reasons like don’t flash your undies at work. That isn’t sexism, it isn’t virtue signaling – it is logic and professionalism for people who represent multiple nations on the global stage.
These are simple rules and easy to follow. All of the other working royal ladies in the BRF manage them just fine. That Kate Middleton chooses not to follow them after 6 years and 2 dozen on-the-job flashing incidents is clearly a choice. IMO at this point HM and Charles have given up.
Yellow Belly
Completely agree. I can’t figure out why this is condoned here. The royal threads get away with comments that would get dragged hard on other CB threads. I really love royal gossip but sometimes it feels like I’ve fallen into a time warp.
I don’t get what’s wrong with Kate’s style. She’s always pretty conservatively dressed for the occasion. Everyone has a miss sometimes, there are plenty of royals to point at.
I pick at William quite often I promise. lol
These threads are different because there are expectations and protocols. They aren’t private citizens, and their job is to be seen and work. Basically, they are celebrities but in their own category because their high luxury life is paid for by the citizens of the UK.
For some reason, I see the monarchy ending because it is antiquated and as the global economy shifts and Brexit transforms the landscape, all this behavior will come back to haunt them.
People will want to know why they are paying for this when the UK is going to need that money. Without the sentimental feelings people have for HM, and as the older generation passes on, I can see it ending with Charles. If they aren’t going to be exciting or dazzling or worker bees, not that it will help at this point, I mean why? They aren’t ambassadors for the UK or add anything to the country, so there will be no justification to keep them. That is how all systems end. I think the harsh criticisms are the beginning and it will only increase as austerity continues to take its toll.
The world is changing, and this dismantling of the UK class system has been happening for over a century. No system in history has lasted forever, and I believe the same is happening all over the world.
The comments aren’t going to change because they are based on truth.
K, sorry but no sorry. Kate is British but she is not reserved. Her trademarks are flashing at the wrong time and place like on state occasions representing HM The Queen. Flirting openly with men, preferably in sportswear (Sir Ben) or army uniform (see the foreign tours in Canada and down under in the southern hemisphere). Laughing uncontrollably pre and post marriage, with or without her sister. That’s not fine. Not for someone in her position.
her trademarks? Or you just don’t like her so remember them?
It has been her pattern of behavior since middle school. Unlikely she’s going to change 20 years on unfortunately.
Flirting with other men? Ii just can’t.
Look for photos of her with Harry, Tim Laurence, Ben Ainslie, and at the UK/NZ women’s field hockey during the 2012 Olympics. She has a flirty nature; it appears to be her default setting.
I know. It’s sad to see the lengths women will go to to put down someone they dislike.
Yup, flirting and laughing. Totally a giant problem. That hussy.
A woman laughing with a man = flirting.
Yeah sure.
Just another way here to slut-shame Kate.
No one is slut-shaming Kate. Her position requires decorum. Can I remind you who she is? She is the *wife* of the *future King*. And all that attitude was displayed on *state occasions* on behalf of the head of state, The Queen, who is Kate’s husbands’ grandmother, and *public engagements* in Kate’s *public royal role*. Less Kate (no offence to all lovely Kate’s out there), more *Duchess of Cambridge*, please. The time was *yesterday*. Hang on, since April 29 of 2011. Oh, that was not *yesterday*. SMH.
So SoulSPA, when you see Camilla laughing with a man, is she flirting, too? Is Sophie? HM? We’ve all seen her smiling at men other than her husband, that hussy! C’mon, your obvious hatred for KM is showing.
A woman CAN smile, laugh, and even touch the arm of a man (gasp!) and just be being social! SMH… honestly!
Let’s see what happens when Meghan is seen laughing with another man!! Just a friendly American gal then!
Good Lord, just look to history and how Kings and Queens have behaved throughout the ages and there are plenty of examples of mostly men behaving badly. Let’s for once be on the women’s side, they have it hard enough as it is.
I am not a Kate fan, but come on…. let her smile and laugh in a natural way if she pleases. There is nothing wrong with that (but, ok, not at memorials). At least she looks engaged.
The original comment was that she is reserved. Then it went all over the place.
As a Canadian, I’m going to generalize us all and say we really do not care. No one on this site would remember if it wasn’t constantly brought up. I thought that more recent BC tour was a waste of time, money and resources and came off like a vacation to introduce W and K to the beauties of their future realm (because we need to advertise to them? the fuck?), It barely appeared on anybody’s radar outside of BC, especially not in Toronto (would really appreciate if all the assumptions made about the city stopped, now that Meghan’s moved out). but no one gives a damn about how long or short her hems are outside of the pearl-clutching sects of monarchists. Embarrassing, yes. Something that should be avoided because you’re on duty, yes. But not something worth talking about for years after the fact.
Gosh no, we must punish that trollop in perpetuity for her sartorial misstep. Such a travesty. Excuse me, I have pearls that need clutching. I’ll make sure they are the appropriate length though, so don’t fret.
You’re relentless. “Flirting”?! That’s ridiculous. Smiling and being friendly with the opposite sex is now “flirting”? Please stop shaming her.
You didn’t really just say “flirting openly with men” did you?
Yes, you did.
Holy batman wiglet!!😁
I miss wiglet watch and tinfoil hat conventions.
I’m ready to shine up my tinfoil tiara (aka Swedish Steel Cut) and set sail on the HMS Wiglet Wagon…
Not allowed anymore.
We’ve acquired commentors who don’t see the humour. Even Liberty was told off for her humourous essays.
Le sigh.
I hope Liberty ignored them and will be back soon. We MUST have her for the wedding.
Personally I find Liberty brilliant. Mashup Liberty’s scripts with the old Spitting Image puppets and I’d be in Netflix heaven. Much better than kissing royal arse.
I find Liberty hilarious – and she is an equal opportunity slayer of dragons. She has skewered Bill, Cathy, Megs, Harry, Phil….Charles! I really miss her Cressida parodies but that time has passed.
The wiglet wagon was certainly fairly benign. God knows there are far worse things said about Kate on here. Unless you are highly invested in Kate’s hair, I cannot imagine that would cause great offense.
And I am a Kate defender! I think she is a pretty woman, who doesn’t look old, who is a good mother and whose husband loves her. Although her work ethic and performance are questionable, I think a lot of people go way overboard in justifying their dislike of the woman. But gentle ribbing – and Liberty’s stuff is gentle – is hardly horrible.
Had KP not sent a press release vociferously denying the use of a wiglet and extensions then we wouldn’t still be talking about it years later. It was a sign of vanity and we are allowed to poke fun at it.
And Liberty’s dialogues are funny. If we can’t poke fun at the rich and famous then we may as well live in a fascist society. It is a great British tradition to make fun of the royals and it has gone on for time immemorial. Those who wish to grovel and tug the forelock to people who don’t give a toss about their existence can do so without depriving the rest of us of our fun.
nic919
Nope. A lot of you would be talking about it regardless because anything that highlights Kate’s physical imperfections is pounced on with glee. Let’s not pretend mocking her weaves or extensions is always done because it’s a public service announcement lest anyone believe the Kate has amazing hair narrative. This is especially true since literally no one here is claimng all of that is Kate’s real hair. Who are you setting the record straight for? The constant criticism us because it galls some people that Kate has been called stunning/glamorous. And you wonder why she hides under so much hair and makeup? Maybe she doesn’t want people to know she has thinning hair or eczema/damaged skin. What are *we* insecure about? How would someone publicly dissect our looks and how would we deal with it? It’s unnecessary. I will admit that the wiglet wagon stuff always seemed harmless to me. But it begs the question – why no snark about Meghan Markle’s overnight lustrous locks?
I don’t get the criticism about Liverty. She’s smart, observant and witty. Whether her stories are your cup of tea or not is subjective. I appreciate the levity, personally, and love her comments.
You say that like there’s something wrong with getting into the sherry at a quilting convention. When I’m bored as shit, you bet I’m going to get into the sherry and get stupid with people here. You should try it sometime. It might lighten you up.
Nobody is commenting on MM’s hair because she hasn’t sent out an official palace statement claiming it’s all her own.
And it remains mindboggling that of all the things said about her that are worthy of correction this was the one she picked?
She used official govt resources to deny something that is perfectly normal and not worthy of comment at all thus drawing attention to it. The Streisand effect.
As if there is something wrong with wiglets/ extensions? Wiglets, wigs and extensions are an accepted way of life. From celebs to your neighbour.
And yes, nothing wrong with getting stuck in the sherry. Quilting is so much fun on the sherry. I’m especially creative when i’m sauced, so what’s your point?
Chin chin, LAK!! 🙂
LAK
That was a weird public correction to make as far as the extensions were concerned. It was another oddity from a sometimes odd public figure, imo, but the tone here is often derisive and unnecessarily catty when it comes to Kate’s appearance. Sometimes it’s harmless gossip and at other times it’s a sad commentary of how easy people find it to hold women up to certain beauty standards. Whether it’s lazy Kate or not I’m uncomfortable with that. Funny enough, I’ve never known you, bluhare or FLORC to be mean about the wiglet watches. It all felt harmless to me because you made a game out of trying to detect the extensions/falls. It didn’t feel Kate centered. Others, not so much. And heavens no there’s nothing wrong with extensions. Right now I’m rocking a structured, precision cut pixie do but for my official author photo I wore extensions and felt very pretty! As for Meghan what I wonder is how she gets her own hair so very glossy – the difference in sheen is usually what gives the extensions away but not for her. Hmmm…maybe one of those $$$ salon polishers?
Liberty was funny. I remember when that first happened and no one cared, and then it became the silliest thing because it was patently untrue.
I still laugh when I see the footage of George Bush try to massage Angela Merkel’s shoulders and she looks at him like get your hands off me, or I will break you.
Memes last because of the internet.
The thing that kills me about her wiglets / extensions is how badly done they are. You can bet she’s seeing top, ultra expensive hairdressers and this is the best they can do? She’d be laughed out of *Peckham for rocking such badly done extensions.
* very poor London neighbourhood with lots of hairdressing shops, wigs/ extensions/ wiglet shops. You can get them done for very little money and look like a million dollars.
I can count on one hand the number of posts you’ve made about the actual topic here, Joannie. Seriously. Almost all of your posts slag the commenters and, as much as I think we all have an opinion to share, I have to say I find your comments totally tiresome, extremely pedantic, and basically the work of someone who apparently lives to rag on other people.
Chin chin.
When I first saw the DM photos of Charlotte wearing a red bow and her hair looking different I wondered for a moment if Charlotte was wearing a mini-me wiglet.
Maybe Meghan (And Kate for that matter) are wearing exactly the hemline they like and feel comfortable in?
What a novel concept
😆
Does anyone know what kind of lipstick Meghan Markle uses? I like the colour on the lips.
Hang on a minute, I’ll just ask her! 🙂
Harry must be happy NOT to be the 3rd wheel with Kate and Wills. He’s all coupled up.
I hope we’ll see diversification of their work in the future. No need for all 3 (and now all 4) to show up at events for certain projects. If you all want to do work in that *theme*, diversify within that theme. Means more work gets done overall, more people are helped.
I agree with you @nota. I do hope Meghan will take on women’s empowerment because she is conversant in the field, maybe theatrical arts for mental health, helping new talents that need exposure and recognition.
I remember reading around here that the issues royals work in are somehow someone’s “turf” and there’s no room for new people as they are “territorial”. I do have high hopes for Meghan if only for her track record and what transpired from the engagement interview and I’m super curious to see what issues she’ll tackle in her own right not only as Harry’s wife. And Harry of course, how could I forget Harry!!!
Didn’t you call Kate a Mattress in another thread? Megahn actively would be fighting agaisnt people like you. Who resort to childish,sexist,demeaning nicknames to describe a woman they dislike.
I have referred to nicknames given to her through the years, including The Wisteria Sisters (LAK was that Tatler?), The Limpet (given by William’s friends and endorsed by Harry), Waity Katie (given by the press and forum readers), and The Mattress (given to her by the press and the RPOs).
After the engagement announcement the RPOs gave her the code COW (Catherine of Wales) but I don’t think that lasted or began to be used in forums or discussions. I hope they don’t call her COC now (Catherine of Cambridge).
I don’t remember calling her those things myself, as I tend to refer to her as Kate Middleton, KM, and/or W&K. Sometimes the two of them as Bill and Kate Middleton.
Other than the racist ones, I haven’t seen a lot of nicknames for Meghan Markle. To refer to her quickly MM is one option, but in my mind that is Mette-Marit of Norway. Nutmeg is one that was apparently mentioned on her blog as a childhood nickname (I never read it so cannot verify that). Referring to these two as H&M gets confusing with the H+M brand.
Not you Nota, Soulspa. The amount of grossness, sexism, racism (Meghan) and disgusting behavior the women in this family get is distasteful. Especially from other women.
SS called her “a mattress” in a post a few days ago. I find it rich that Souls was talking about MM possibly working in Women Empowerment, when they have no issue tearing a woman down. Meghan wouldn’t like someone who does that.
@Savannah, I take no offence. This is a site that allows different points of view and I am very happy with that. I call it fair game: you put in a comment, some people agree, others disagree. I’ve always been kind to other commentators but still, maybe I am just one of them. Others point their fingers at some, like me. I take no offence.
I do not see contradicting myself talking about Meghan and women’s empowerment, and using nicknames for Kate. I am not the first. I am fairly new here on CB. That’s language that has been used before many times over. From what I get from another post, on different sites too and from people from the royal milieu too. So far it’s game on for Meghan. Her track record speaks for itself. Kate too speaks for herself. And she, Kate, has always been in a position to do better and better every day since her student years at least. She doesn’t. It’s unfair to call on criticism when she is so privileged and has access to the best of everything through no particular worthy personal merit. But does nothing and when she does she does not even get the basics right.
I admit I’ve been harsh and that’s on me. I do take from here to moderate my language but that’s just because this is a community I like.
@ Savannah
So what? You act as if there is something wrong with disliking a person and/or disapproving of their behavior. It is possible to dislike a person, even if they are a woman. Kate is a person, she is not a saint. She will, at times, behave in ways which others may disapprove of.
And that’s ok.
We don’t have to like everyone. We can disapprove of people.
And you can disapprove of us, for disapproving of others.
We’re all free here.
I for one, am glad to see Meghan starting out with lengths that don’t show her arse. Relieved even. Long may it continue.
Is decorum back?!!
@Eliane I was actually talking about calling someone an mattress, but whatever. Soulspa thanks for the response and I’m done. If people feel like that’s okay, maybe I’m the problem.
I loveev how you left the point of my whole agruement out, Eliane. I’m sorry if I sounded preachy, SS. That comment you made popped into my head and stood out on a site like this. I’ve never seen anyone use that nickname for Kate because I thought everyone could express themselves without going low enough to use them. I’ve seen so much crap about Kate and Meghan on the internet it’s crazy, honesty. Those women have to be strong to deal with all the hate they get.
@nota and @soulspa. I’m in agreement with savanah on this.
I also think that in your defenses of what you’ve said, you’re being deliberately obtuse a bit. Whenever people are called out for attacking Kate’s face, hair, makeup, hemlines, and now apparently fluffiness and laughter, or making sexist comments or calling her sexist names, it seems like instead defending why it’s okay to say those sexist/personal appearance things, people respond with why it’s okay to call her out on her work ethic. Or they say they don’t have to like her bc she hardly works and she’s twking forever to learn how to do her job. But that’s not what savanah and others have a problem with or asking about. No one is saying you have to like all people, no one is saying you shouldn’t attack Kate’s work ethic or the amount of money she spends on clothes, or the fact that she seems to not be at all good at her job. People want to know why you think it’s okay to say she looks old, or attack her skin/hair/makeup. Or specifically say that Megan looks so much younger and prettier.
Savannah
I’m late to your comments but please know you are not alone. The slut-shaming and misogyny have often been brutal here and don’t let anyone tell you differently.
This isn’t about liking or not liking Kate. This is about one of the oldest tricks in the book – tearing down a woman by making her look like a cheap, easy slut. It is so disgusting. I have two teenage nieces and I stress out about the world they will grow up in because of attitudes like these. I have to explain to them that clothing or the lack of it has zero to do with deserving a certain level of treatment. I have to explain to them that sexual activity has been weaponized against women for thousands of years and why the patriarchy needs it to continue. I’ve had to find examples of virtue signalling hidden in plain sight in media, programming, movies, ads and articles and now they can’t unsee it.
And not that it matters but when a woman can be slut shamed for being intimate with her second serious boyfriend, whom she married, then I weep for humanity.
@ Amy. Interesting points. Here’s mine; no one gets to decide how I do and do not talk about Kate. Or anyone else. I am entitled to not like her hair choices, or make-up application. I am also entitled to like them a lot.
This will be my opinion and I am entitled to have it, and to express it. Positively or negatively.
It is not up to you to decide what is and what is not appropriate subject matter for discourse.
I do not have to justify my right to an opinion, or my choice of subject matter.
Nor will I.
This is freedom.
You think we should not talk about her clothing/hair/make-up/ life choices.
I do.
You think you should have the right to tell me not to discuss her hair/make-up/ life choices etc etc.
I disagree.
Your opinion is valid, but it is your own.
You are not entitled to tell me what to do, what to say, what to talk about, and what not to talk about.
Here, you are only in charge of you.
Since when is talking about bad fashion or bad make up application slut shaming? Brandishing the term misogyny for things like that dilutes the actual meaning of the word. Criticism of Kate does not automatically equal misogyny just like criticism of Meghan does not automatically equal racism / misogyny. Yes there are some terms that can fall in those categories, but saying she has a wiglet or uses too much blush isn’t it.
Kate is a public figure who lives in luxury paid for by taxpayers. She also has a stylist, assistants and two nannies. Being critical about things she can change, like her work ethic is allowed in a free society. And if she did more work, the superficial things she does would be less criticized. How often do people criticize Anne or Sophie or even Camilla regarding looks? They don’t because those women actually work. Kate needs to do more work. She has provided many excuses in the last seven years, despite her engagement PR that she would hit the ground running. She has failed to do so again this year. Maybe next year.
Some of you may be okay with the crumbs offered. Others expect much more, especially those who have to pay for her dresses, jewels, vacations and palaces.
Meghan is currently an unknown, but if she proves to be as lazy as Kate is, she will be called out on it.
Deflect much? We’re calling some of you out for deliberate, specific, consistent slut shaming. You know who you are. It’s wrong and should have no place in contemporary conversations about women and especially among women. Kate’s work ethic or privilege have absolutely nothing to do with this particular issue and some of you very well know it. Shameful.
I think her nicknames were snobby, but it persisted because William allowed it. smh I would be more bothered if someone here made it up. I don’t take this subject seriously but more as a distraction from the disaster that is America.
The racist hypocrites are another matter.
I love Meghan’s dress-it says holiday party but appropriate. And from what we can see her makeup and hair are perfect.
Is it me or does Kate look loopy? She is pregnant so guess not. She must be trying to look animated.
Why would anyone want to be a nanny for the BRF? They have to go to weddings, Christmas lunches. So odd. Why can’t the Queen arrange for appropriate child care for the young children? Hope they get paid well.
Young children are sensitive and often perceptive. It could be horrifying for them to be cared for by a babysitter hired just for an event. Their nannies know them well and provide them with security, familiarity and comfort. The nannies get paid more than the other domestic staff. It’s not enough to make them wealthy but when their tenure is over they can command top dollar salaries from privileged families who will engage in a bidding war to hire them. It’s similar to the multimillion dollar speaking fees former presidents receive compared to the $270K/yr they earn while in office.
I understand. I have a kid and had a nanny for many years. First, they know their parents are nearby. Also if they have relationships with their cousins they would be excited to play with them. The whole uniform and bringing them to personal family occasions to watch the children is very odd. In US maybe u would see a nanny at a pool party or if very small baby is invited.
Horrifying? I think that’s a bit much. They might take a minute to warm up to the new person. If they’re in the weird age where they’re really clingy to Mom and Dad, they might cry, but I wouldn’t go with horrifying. Children can be distracted and calmed down pretty easily and quickly by a good babysitter.
Amy
It really depends. Ages 4 and above can do better than toddlers. It depends. my oldest niece would have skipped off to play with the others but my youngest niece would have shrieked and locked herself onto my legs. But how can anyone deny that the child’s own caregiver will always be better than a babysitter?
Really not unusual to to take nannies to events. Am surprised that people are surprised. Means that the adults can relax a little and talk to their cousins, knowing that the little ones can play with their cousins, knowing that the nannies are there to prevent any acts of gross juvenile vandalism in the hallowed halls of Buckingham Palace.
I think it is because it is a family event and there are two of them. It seems very formal nowadays. But I forgot when I first observed it that she is pregnant and may just be exhausted and not up to chasing them and wrangling them in front of the family.
*shrug*
Considering so many don’t approve of short hemlines, I’m surprised (though not really) you’re okay with the top part of this dress.
Meghan has great looking skin. That’s a big plus for her because girl looks younger then Kate. Kate looks better with her pregnancy weight but she has bad skin. DM has an article about Meghan having a Kate makeover. Please all in heaven don’t let her start dressing like Kate.
For everyone saying Kate looks loopy, she looks fine in every other photo the DM has of their arriving and leaving. It seems like there was more of a crowd gathered this year (to see Meghan?) so I’m not surprised that she was trying to smile and wave. Even Will managed a smile on a few of the photos I saw.
I like the length and shape of Meghan’s dress, but I’m not a fan of lace that gives the illusion you’re naked underneath…
Even if she did look loopy, I’d giver her a pass. I can get pretty loopy when I’m tired – and I don’t think it’s ridiculous to think she’s tired out while pregnant. I know she doesn’t work hard, but it’s still tiring growing a baby.
I’m 50/50 with that lace trend. I think it really depends heavily on the style of dress and how much of the lace is used. Some can look really cool and fresh – others can look overworked and try-hard sexy. I would have liked Meghan’s dress more if it had some sort of gold or bronze material under the lace – but not in an over the top *GOLD* kind of way.
Hey, I spotted pictures of Lady Amelia Windsor and Margarita Armstrong-Jones from the lunch. Gorgeous! Margarita is perhaps too young to be featured but why aren’t there more articles on Lady Amelia?
I was hoping to see a picture of Lady Sarah Chatto, but all I saw was her husband Daniel (she was blocked by the car frame). No Lady Freddie, but that is to be expected with her car accident.
I was hoping to see Lady Sarah Chatto too. Oh, did Lady Freddie have a car accident? Guess I missed that story.
Yes, she was in a serious accident a few weeks ago. She was in a chauffered car being driven home from a filming set. Another car swerved to avoid a deer and hit her car head-on.
Im sorry, but if the ID for that Self-Portrait dress is true then its a disappointing choice. It’s hideous!. The hem line is too long, the upper lace part looks awful, she’s too young to be wearing that. People complain that Kate dresses too old for her age but looking at her recent choices I think Meghan is going to steal that title from her.
Regarding the makeup- she has been heavy handed with the blusher just like Kate lol. The rest of her looks fine especially the hair, eye makeup and ear rings.
Self Potrait is a very hip young brand in the US. I have been to several bridal showers and parties with women in their 20’ s and 30’s and seen many of their dresses. I believe Pippa has worn their clothing. I personally love tea length.
Don’t forget we r seeing her in a car. Let’s not get carried away…it looks festive. Also need to see shoes and handbag.
Kate has been going short during her pregnancy with tights. It has looked very twee.
Self Portrait has some very nice dresses unfortunately this isn’t one of them imo.
I like the hemline but not the dress overall. I’d like to institute a ban on lace or lace-look dresses for any royal lady for a few years. Pretty please. This lace trend and the giant bell sleeve one need to be over.
Sometimes u need to see it in the person and not a website. I am sure she looked lovely.
Ok, seriously I really hope MM gives Kate some makeup tips because holy hell… even in the inside-the-car pics, you can see Kate’s god awful pink clown blush and that eyeliner. I mean, is that stuff tattooed on? Maybe a semi-permanent liner (which apparently is possible to do). Megan’s makeup looks classy and elegant and Kate just looks she used a paint brush to apply hers.
Meghan looks very pretty!!
Has anyone else seen the photos of Harry and Prince Philip at the Royal Marines event? Philip is looking very small.
Reminds me – Harry took over Phil’s spot as captain of the Royal Marines. Imagine how comforting that must be for him. Phil adheres to tradition and continuity.
Everything was fine until the daily mail had a picture of Sparkle lifting her left hand to her hair just as she swept passed the paps ensuring any would be ex to back off iwith her Megs Sparkler shining
I don’t understand why they don’t have chauffeurs. Is that not done? I would imagine they had drivers and never had to drive themselves anywhere. I mean why even be royal if you can’t have a chauffeur. *hair flip*
Ikr?! I mean like, what’s the point if you have to drive yourself? Lol
They are human they like to drive on occasion
That is an awful dress. Too much skin.
And where is her coat?
she looks totally different ! more like kate than herself. hmm?
I’m just here to say that I just find Meghan to be so beautiful. Princess Sparkle, indeed.
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Why am i not suprised Princess Michael wore a blackmoor broach to Meghan first outing with the royal family.Meghan who she knows damn well is mixed and she wore that.Racist Bint
Absolutely. I’m surprised it’s not getting more media attention. Appalling behaviour.
William has a look on his face like how did I get here? I often wonder how “in love’ he truly is given he was so quick to ditch waitey katey years ago.
Really waity katey? A nickname from a tabloid FIFTEEN years ago. Only because she was in a relationship for seven years and married when she was 28. What a scandal that they didn’t marry when they were 22 years old after a year of dating…. wait for it that’s normal behavior. They had a break up 11 years ago for two months so let’s keep harping on it after so many years. Boring. He is clearly in love enough with his wife to have a third baby with her. He is clearly in love enough to be married almost seven years and be with her for fifteen years.
They broke up repeatedly, they even messed up on that themselves in the engagement interview. William was talking about one breakup, she was talking about another. He repeatedly dumped her and chased other women, with photographic proof, even when they were “together”.
The scandal is that she did nothing for 10 years except wait for him to call. Dropped everything, pretended to work for 6 months when the Queen commented on her lack of work ethic. She had the resources to start her own business, start her own charity, and still have a flexible schedule. She chose to do nothing but wait, hence the nickname.
I just wanted to say that Meghan looks so nice! I agree that lace dresses are generally getting tiresome, but the lace pattern of Meghan’s is unique and interesting in comparison. The black banded sort of neckline puts a nice modern twist on it too.
Meghan’s nicknames: Princess Pushy and Me-Again.
Good, she isn’t a wallflower. Sexist nicknames. Ugh.
There will only ever be one Princess Pushy (who is now cancelled).
Haters gonna hate
Whenever I see MM’s photos, I am immediately distracted by her surgically sculpted nose.
She has the same nose as her father.
Roughly. But if you look carefully at older photos (early 20s), the base of her old nose is much broader, the tip less sculpted, and the length longer. The new nose has had a subtle but impactful refinement.
The MM hype is on overdrive and scary.. KP should take it easy with the hype. The fawning on DM on how she charmed everyone at the dinner and told corny jokes is over the top. While the hype looks good for now, the danger in it is that they have put her on an extremely high pedestal and over raised the expectations of people about the magic she is expected to perform when she gets married and how she will single handedly change the RF. Some people like Lainey call her the disruptor (whatever that means). If after two or three years, she doesn’t carry out the kind of ‘disruption’ expected of her, (she’ll do the normal charity ‘ work’ royals do, cut ribbons, attend functions and greet people.), people will be disappointed. Yes, she may or may not ‘outwork’ William and Kate, but one thing is for sure, that the establishment will definitely not allow her to outshine the future king and queen. She will be made to fall in line. Sophie works very hard, much harder than Kate and is more loved than Camilla, but she’s not ‘outwork’ Kate or Camilla.
The Dailymail, stuff is nonsense, there are just writing crap for people to attack Megan and you fell for it.
Sophie outworks Kate Middleton and she is married to the soon-to-be 10th in line to the throne. Sophie also outworked KM the two years she was still running her outside business, nearly died having Louise, and the year after Louise was born.
2016
KM 140, half of which were HoliTours engagements
Camilla 221
Sophie 179
2015
KM 62
Camilla 235
Sophie 218
Corny jokes .??? Poor Prince Phillip
56,000 pounds for Meghans engagement putfit photograph s today which I think is a disgrace I shall be starting the new year realising that our lovely Kste is more frugal and at this rate is going to be the darling of the country
LOL
I guess we’ll see. Reportedly, the gown was purchased with private funds.
looks gorgeous
I hope Meagan takes on Anti- Black racism. One can wish. Princess Michael
Of Kent is so disgusting showing up with that racist ministral pin. She clearly did that on purpose.
If they are indeed driving, whyare the men driving only? Can’tMeghan or Kate drive, oris there a protocol about only letting the men take the wheel, literally?