Rudy Giuliani has joined Donald Trump’s legal team, so… that’s how this is going

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I’m waking up from political hibernation for a moment to discuss this briefly: Rudy Giuliani is now on Donald Trump’s legal team. I had forgotten, for a brief moment, that Giuliani actually IS a lawyer. He used to be an associate attorney general in New York many, many years ago, as well as a former US Attorney for the Southern District of New York. That’s one the reasons why he has such close ties to state and federal law enforcement in New York, especially the “Trumplandia” FBI office in NY state. So here it is:

Former New York mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani and two other former federal prosecutors joined President Trump’s legal team Thursday following weeks of turbulence and struggles to find attorneys who would agree to represent the president in the ongoing federal probe into Russian election interference. The reshuffling comes at a particularly tense juncture for Trump, who aides said is increasingly frustrated by special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s investigation and with the senior officials at the Justice Department.

The entry of Giuliani, an experienced attorney with a combative reputation, immediately raises questions about how Trump will engage with Mueller and the leadership at Justice. Some Trump advisers are concerned that the president could use his ­executive authority to close or diminish the special counsel probe, which has spawned a parallel investigation in New York targeting his personal attorney.

“I’m doing it because I hope we can negotiate an end to this for the good of the country and because I have high regard for the president and for Bob Mueller,” Giuliani said in an interview Thursday. Trump said in a statement that Giuliani “wants to get this matter quickly resolved.”

In recent days, the president has been regularly venting and speculating to aides about his legal status and the expected timeline for the Russia investigation to end, according to associates briefed on the discussions. Trump also loudly and repeatedly complained to several advisers earlier this week that former FBI director James B. Comey, former deputy FBI director Andrew McCabe and former Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton, among others, should be charged with crimes for misdeeds alleged by Republicans, the associates said.

Although White House officials said Thursday that Trump has not called Justice Department officials or taken any formal action, the persistent grousing has made some advisers anxious, according to two people close to the president. A publicity tour by Comey to promote his book critical of Trump, “A Higher Loyalty,” has attracted particular attention from the president, who has disparaged Comey publicly and privately.

[From The Washington Post]

A few things… one, by most accounts, Mueller actually is wrapping things up in the next few months anyway. Mueller doesn’t need Giuliani calling him up to say “this needs to be finished NOW!” Two, Giuliani is likely a witness to some of the crimes which Mueller is investigating, and Rudy might even be a target of the investigation. Giuliani did a lot of work for the Trump campaign in 2016, including a yet-to-be-explained preview of James Comey publicly throwing the election for Trump. We still don’t know how Giuliani knew that Comey was going to do that, two days before Comey made that announcement in late October.

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  1. Darla says:

    I personally believe he had more to do with this election debacle than nearly anyone, and was working in close cahoots with the NYC FBI field office, which was “Trumpland”. They destroyed Hillary. I want him in jail. Now he’s representing trump as an attorney in the same criminal matter he himself is involved in.

    Someone wake me please.

    • Redgrl says:

      @darla agreed. Will never forget him snickering on CNN just before the emails came out. He’s a crook.

      • Darla says:

        Oh it was so horrible, and Rachel played those clips again last night. Just made me so sick all over again.

      • jwoolman says:

        Trump knew about the emails, too. I remember his Grinchy grin at a rally around that same time, when he was hinting at it.

        Giuliani and his leaky Trumpster FBI buddies were definitely the villains of the piece. Comey was not trying to sabotage Hillary but rather just doing his job with some fire prevention. Giuliani and Chaffetz were the arsonists.

        I keep asking: why would anybody rationally think Comey would want Trump as President? That’s what you would to believe in order to keep slamming Comey for just keeping his promise to inform the doofuses in Congress (who started the whole investigation) about any new evidence. He examined the emails and within a few days cleared her again, saying that the emails were not new material. His letter to Congress was not inflammatory, it was routine and just said the emails would be checked to see if they were anything new. All the spin making it a big deal is due entirely to the Trumpies. And Giuliani’s threats made examining the emails urgent – otherwise, Comey could have waited until after the election.

    • Lahdidahbaby says:

      Yeah, it’s a nightmare added to the already-existing nightmare in the White House. Both men are crass, crude, and obnoxious. Perfect.

    • AnnaKist says:

      Lots of people here in Australihave thought for a long time that Giuliani is a dead-set crook. How good would it be to hear that his joining Stump’s legal team did more harm than good for both of them, and that the pair of these criminal deplorables are going to be drawn and quartered, thanks to Mueller’s findings? I reckon they are bth up to their eyeballs in something filthy.

    • Dita von Katzhausen says:

      Obviously he wants to get raided by the FBI as well.

  2. Chrissy says:

    Giuliani is only helping now because the Orange Menace is desperate for ANY attorney at this point and Old Rudy probably volunteered. The fact that he hasn’t practiced law in over twenty years might be a problem…. I’m sure Mr. Mueller is not quaking in his boots.

    • maisie says:

      Someone on Twitter said Giuliani thought 45 would choose him as Attorney General, but haha, 45 shafted him as he did Chris Christie and Mitt Romney. So he hung around, doing some of 45′s Russian dirty work, and now all he has to show for it is being the 100th person 45 asked to be his defense lawyer (99 other lawyers said “Hell no – but thanks!”). And as for being 45′s lawyer will immunize him from blabbing about the crimes – well, yeah – from this point on. Everything Giuliani did BEFORE this is still fair game. It’s not retroactive.

  3. lightpurple says:

    So, Giuliani beat Dershowitz in the Mar a Lago mud wrestling competition.

    • boredblond says:

      Now that’s a ppv I’d watch! rudy’s job will be big mouth media presence, not actual legal work

    • H says:

      Am I missing something? Dershowitz is a Trump supporter?

      • Tiffany :) says:

        He’s been giving him legal excuses and defending him on cable news for a while now.

        Dershowitz has found a new OJ. Someone who is clearly a criminal, that he has no reservations about twisting the law to defend.

  4. damejudi says:

    Doesn’t Rudy need to focus on his impending divorce?

    • MJC says:

      I was thinking he took the job as he might need the $$ for his divorce. Thinking the soon to be ex knows stuff.

      • Indiana Joanna says:

        If drump doesn’t stiff him, a concern other attorneys have regarding joining drump’s team.

      • Merritt says:

        Trump won’t pay him. He never pays anyone back.

      • MJC says:

        True…forgot about that part. I work with a bunch of contractors/material suppliers in NJ who were stiffed by Trump. Not sure anyone in the metro NY/NJ will supply his projects; people buying/renting are getting gaudy/overpriced homes with subpar materials.

      • maisie says:

        Ha! As if 45 will pay him from his own pocket. One of the reasons he couldn’t find a good lawyer is because all of them know he stiffs everyone. He’s well known for not paying his bills.

  5. Darla says:

    One other thing. Michael Avenatti says he gave authorities proof of Michael Cohen bank fraud. When Avenatti first came on the scene, I wasn’t sure you know? I mean, I have an aversion to showy when it comes to serious business. But I did feel that he was very good at his profession, but worried maybe a little fame whorey? But what I’ve concluded is that no, he’s not. What he is is the perfect foil to Trump/Cohen. You need someone who has some showman in them to play against those two. He’s perfect actually. There’s a reason they have kept their big mouths shut no matter what Avenatti throws at them. And he throws plenty. I mean he has been mocking Cohen as the pink panther. They say nothing. They’re terrified of this guy.

    Avenatti and of course Mueller, are the only two things giving me any hope. But lately, Avenatti even moreso. He has them on the ropes in NYS. That in the end, could be the biggest thing of them all. God bless him. Oh, and God bless Stormy Daniels. She may yet save us all. And isn’t that something?

    • Digital Unicorn says:

      Since the Stormy story broke and seeing how it affected the orange stain has me becoming more convinced that its her and her lawyer who will bring Trump down – she clearly has something on him that has him staining his bigly diapers. IQ45 will go down in history as the President who gets brought down by the plucky pron star and her shark of a lawyer. Hollywood will be making movies about this for years to come, Alex Baldwin will have a new career playing IQ45 in all these movies.

    • Christin says:

      He’s a bit showy and makes the TV show rounds. Yet having watched him from the first appearances in March, I believe he has both legal smarts and street smarts. And he has a good team doing a lot of work behind the scenes.

      There is definitely a reason the circus won’t go after him. He is way smarter and not afraid to rumble.

    • Berry says:

      It will be very sweet justice if a woman brought down Trump and his gang of crooks.

    • kNY says:

      I agree. I questioned his motives at first, but he is damn amazing. And…really, really attractive.

    • Fluffy Princess says:

      Avenatti is the real deal! His resume is stellar, too. Very good law school, graduated top of his class, has won awards for his work, usually goes after bullies–and wins! He’s won over 1 BILLION + in settlements for his clients over the years. Plus, he is playing their game better than they do! It’s beautiful! I saw him on MSNBC with yesterday and his game is tight. He said that he and Stormy will NEVER settle this case until all the truth comes out about this situation. He also predicted that Emperor Zero won’t finish out his term.
      (Paraphrasing since my words might not be exact) Nicole Wallace chuckled and said, “You think you will get the President of the United States to sit down for a deposition under oath? Bob Mueller can’t get that, and no offense, but you are no Bob Mueller.” He said, “Yes, I do believe that is what will happen, and I’m not saying I’m better than Mueller, but I will put my skills up against anyone. . .” YAAAAAAS! YAAAS! His confidence gives me LIFE! And really, how aprapos is it that a pron star will bring down a con-man? YAAAAS!

    • Tiffany :) says:

      Avenatti’s best skill IMO is that he lays traps that Trump can’t help but fall into. Trump’s comments on Air Force One about knowing nothing about the Stormy agreement was totally set up by Avenatti. He provoked Trump until the fool couldn’t help himself and comment.

  6. Jan says:

    Wow, this screams “Trump is guilty of some bad $hit”! If he’s this desperate I may see a second President resign in my lifetime! Yes, people I’m old enough to remember Watergate but in my defense, i was very young at the time. 😹

    • jwoolman says:

      I was in grad school when Nixon resigned. All I remember is that the broadcast of his resignation was sponsored by Renuzit air freshener, which I thought was an incredibly good advertising choice.

    • Christin says:

      I was a kid getting ready to start going to school in August when the infamous helicopter departure was televised. Let’s hope for another one!

      • Lady D says:

        Where do you start school in August, Christin? It’s always been September in Canada. Schools close for summer holidays in July and August here.

      • Christin says:

        Some Tennessee and Virginia schools now start in early August, because of the built-in snow day* allowance and breaks. When I went to school in the 1970s-mid 1980s, we started third week of August. These schools like to wrap up in late May. It does start getting hot in June, so maybe that influences things.

        * A snow day in these parts tends to be overused. People in northern regions would laugh at some of conditions that warrant one here.

      • nicole says:

        Trump is going to go down as one of the most imfamous presidents ever, imagine the films and books that is going to be in the future about all this, in the end Trump got what he wanted worldwide fame and being the focus of everything.

      • CairinaCat says:

        Most schools in California start in the first to third week in August now.
        When I lived up near San Francisco it was the first week, down near long Beach it’s around the 20th

  7. Jan says:

    Wow, this screams “Trump is guilty of some bad $hit”! If he’s this desperate I may see a second President resign in my lifetime! Yes, people I’m old enough to remember Watergate but in my defense, i was very young at the time. 😹

    • MJC says:

      Will never happen (resignation); too narcissistic and gotten away with so much over his lifetime, figures he can bully his way out of this. And no doubt there is some truth to his recent “joke” about changing the law to get 16 years in office, ie FDR.

      • Jan says:

        Yeah well, Nixon thought the same exact thing and tried the bully his way through it for months! Until it blew up in his face and he knew he was being impeached in days. Just like Nixon, Trump is an a$$ and a crook but he’s not stupid. He’ll bail while throwing everyone under the bus if it will save him. Nixon Part 2.

      • Jan says:

        Yeah well, Nixon thought the same exact thing and tried the bully his way through it for months! Until it blew up in his face and he knew he was being impeached in days. Just like Nixon, Trump is an a$$ and a crook but he’s not stupid. He’ll bail while throwing everyone under the bus if it will save him. Nixon Part 2.

      • Jan says:

        Nixon thought the same thing and tried to bully his way through it for months. Until it blew up in his face and he knew he was going to be impeached in days. Trump is the same, he’s a bully and a jerk but he’s not stupid. He will bail if it gets bad enough while throwing everyone under the bus trying to save himself. Coming to a theater near you: Nixon Part 2!

      • RBC says:

        He may decide to resign do to “health reasons”. That way he saves face and can say that he would have wanted to remain in office “to fix the mess that Obama left” but his doctor advised him against it.
        Considering that at his last physical exam his weight was quoted as being 239lbs and extremely healthy( McDonalds and Diet Coke must do wonders!). I can easily see his doctor making up some story about how 45 has health issues that would require him leaving office.

      • Berry says:

        Nixon did not have a propaganda network like Fox News to mislead the public day after day.

      • Larelyn says:

        “He may decide resign due to ‘health reasons’.”

        Like what, bone spurs?

      • jwoolman says:

        Trump’s real fear should be indictment for state charges. Pence can’t pardon him for those. This may very well be why he’s not resigning — he thinks the Presidency protects him against indictment. Impeachment may not scare him because a 2/3 majority is needed in the Senate to actually remove him from office, and the Republican Senators are protecting him. I don’t understand why. They could get their miserable agenda pushed through more easily with Pence and avoid the drama. What exactly does Putin have on them? Or what kind of money transfers have they been involved in from whom? Maybe a lot of them are seriously more dirty than we think.

        The smart move for Trump at this point would be to schedule a trip to the appropriate area of the world and make a stop in a comfortable country that won’t extradite him, then wave goodbye to Air Force One and stay there. I expected him to do this in Dubai during his Middle East trip, but he probably was still overconfident that he will wiggle away from The Law as he has always done before. The guy has been engaged in illegal activities for decades for has only had occasional fines and financial settlements so far. This is the first time there has been a real risk of prison for him and his family.

  8. Maya says:

    Blind leading the blind – in this case crook leading the crook.

  9. Mia4s says:

    Hey remember when Rudy was a hero and the world’s mayor?…..Yeah me neither.

    How to destroy a legacy in less than 20 years.

  10. lisa says:

    1. so then giuliani cant testify against him ?
    2. so when people are disposed giuliani knows who is spilling tea and what?

    this isnt about lawyering

    • Parigo says:

      I agree. RUdy is knee deep in this Russia mess, and I wouldn’t be surprised if he was a person of interest. This is a shady move to cover his ass.

    • Larelyn says:

      Totally agree. He gets an inside view of the case being set up against Trump and uses it to dodge his own bullets. Isn’t there a lawyer-ly “insider trading” rule preventing him from representing a partner in crime?

    • Tiffany :) says:

      I think attorney client privilege would make it so that he couldn’t testify about certain matters, but during the campaign he wasn’t his lawyer. I think he’d be forced to testify about what happened during his time as a campaign affiliate.

  11. Eric says:

    I guess molting season is officially over for Mothra Ghouliani. I wonder how the flight pattern was for “the moth” when he flew down to Mar-a-Largeass. Probably took him a few days when he saw porch lights ablaze and just couldn’t resist the glow. I hope he was entertained by the very large, Bigly even, Impeachment Now! Billboard so close to Emperor Zero’s residence.

    Unfortunately for Mothra, his tenure as an EZ attorney will last about a week; Mr Mueller installed a zapping bug lamp and it’s especially designed for bugs like Mothra.

  12. Lucy2 says:

    Oh, I guess there was an opening in the hobgoblin department?

    Giuliani is awful, and if he’s not already under investigation, I hope tying himself to this debacle makes him so, and he ends up in trouble like the rest of them.

  13. jwoolman says:

    I don’t think Giuliani had advance info about Comey’s confidential letter to Congress. He had advance info about the emails to Hilary found on Weiner’s computer, from Trumpy FBI agents in the New York office that had been leaking to him for a while.

    Giuliani’s threat to release that info while spinning wildly was what most likely inspired the Comey letter at that particular time. Giuliani and Trump were both acting gleeful about something “big” coming out just before.

    Otherwise, Comey would have just waited until after the election to deal with it (since it was so unlikely to be anything earth-shattering, he and McCabe hadn’t rushed to examine it) or else he would have done the comparison, found they were just copies of already examined emails, and just said so if Giuliani tried to make a big deal out of it. After such an examination, it was clear that it was not new evidence and Comey had no obligation to inform Congress (which instigated the whole investigation, the FBI didn’t do it spontaneously). But at the time of the impending leak, the FBI had put the e-mails thing on the back burner so Comey had to just say they would examine the emails to see if they were anything new.

    If you read Comey’s letter, it was moderate in tone and had the sound of damage control. There is simply no reason to believe that Comey wanted to sabotage Hillary’s campaign. He obviously found Trump to be unusually disturbing. He did not release the letter himself – it was clearly marked confidential, but Chaffetz released it with fanfare and spin.

    • Betsy says:

      I believe Kaiser linked this earlier this week

      I think, unlike Orange Toilet, that Jim Comey is an overall decent guy. Like I don’t think he trucks in hookers and coke and treason. But he most definitely isn’t as squeaky clean as he likes to think and I don’t think he’s really owning up to what he did.

      Further, the rank and file GOP have got to look at what they’re responsible for. There is no Republican they won’t vote for, no line between church and state too thick to breached, no crazy theory that can’t have the mainstream or compromise that can be smashed. They’re anarchists. Trump isn’t some aberration – he is them.

    • Lightpurple says:

      Chaffetz is not getting the attention he deserves for his major role in this mess.

  14. Rapunzel says:

    Rudy G Is the perfect lawyer for Trump. Shady and a barely competent.

    You know how we know Trump’s in real legal trouble? His kids have stopped saying stuff.

    • Blanster says:

      Good point! I hadn’t noticed until you said that.

    • Christin says:

      Maybe they are busy working with their “charities”. Like the one that purports to send money to one well-known children’s hospital, when anyone can donate directly said hospital.

    • Tiffany :) says:

      His kids are probably going to be indicted before Trump.

  15. Girl_ninja says:

    Gosh Giuliani is hideous. Gargoyle looking fool.

  16. RBC says:

    Rudy going through a divorce. Soon to be ex-wife is playing hardball in negotiations, may spill some secrets(which could involve 45) if things don’t go the way she wants. 45 gets wind of this and hires Rudy. Rudy now has the extra cash to have a quiet divorce and keep any secrets from coming to light.

  17. Jayna says:

    Is this a joke? Because I’m laughing over this news. Trump and his swamp. LOL

    • Dr. Mrs The Monarch says:

      As soon as I read the headline the song “Send in the Clowns” was immediately in head. I’m just waiting for Lionel Hutz and Harvey Birdman to round out this legal team.

  18. Harla says:

    I love the photos you choose!

  19. Prairiegirl says:

    Trump doesn’t take advice and doesn’t pay his bills. Who would possibly want to represent him other than a political hack with a law degree?

    I can’t remember who said it on Twitter but the gist of it was that Mueller has assembled a legal dream team, while Trump has the equivalent of Lionel Hutz.

  20. isadora says:

    Michael Cohen is about to spill the beans and everyone is desperate to end the investigation and looking to fire Mueller before that happens. But no one tell them that it will take more than that to shut down the investigation.

    Really, the only best people in Twitlers cabinet and legal team are morons. He has THE BEST morons that anyone could hope for. That’s an accomplishment that no one can take away from him.

  21. Pandy says:

    Tie him up in court Judith!!!

  22. why? says:

    This just seems to be spinning out of control. The Dotard, WH, and republicans are doing whatever they want because they know that Mueller isn’t going to hold the Dotard accountable. Look at how absolutely no one tries to stop Devin Nunes as tries to disrupt the investigation and what the WH, Dotard, IG who is clearly partisan and the Dotard’s puppet, Sessions have went on the attack against McCabe. It appears that Mueller has fallen into the complicity trap because Rosenstein told the Dotard that he wasn’t a target in the Russian investigation or the Cohen investigation. I feel that we have been duped by Rosenstein. He has been working with the Republicans to interfer with Russian investigation. It’s crazy how both Rosenstein and Wray keep giving into Devin Nunes requests for information(which is then leaked by Nunes and Gowdy or manipulated to vindicate the Dotard), especially when Nunes recused himself from the investigation.

    Rudy played a major part in Comey’s statement about Hillary. He even went on tv and bragged about it.

    Every time the Dotard claims that there was no collusion, the press needs to tweet both his speech and his tweet asking the Russians to hack Hillary. Every time Mueller and Rosenstein tell the Dotard that he is not a target, they give him fuel for his “no collusion” tweets. Even Comey admitted that he was wrong for telling the Dotard that he wan’t under investigation. Why can’t Rosenstein and Mueller see the damage they are doing by telling the Dotard that he isn’t under investigation.

    Now it’s being reported that the “nonpartisan” IG who recommended the firing of McCabe and that McCabe be prosecuted is investigating Comey for “leaking” his own memos to his friend(the “nonpartisan” IG is claiming that Comey’s memos were classified, which is not true because Rachel Maddow already did a segment where she showed that Dana B’s notes on Comey’s conversation with the Dotard weren’t classified(someone had mislabled them as classified when they weren’t classified at all) . Some Democrats said that we could trust the IG because he was not partisan, but every single day he shows that he is working for the Dotard. The press needs start holding the IG accountable for using his job to punish the Dotard’s political enemies.

    • jwoolman says:

      I agree that we need to know a lot more about the Inspector General. McCabe’s version of events makes much more sense.

      But Mueller and Rosenstein are not complicit with the Dotard. If they were, then the Dotard wouldn’t be panicking right now. The DoJ and the FBI are required to tell someone which category they fall into during an investigation (witness, subject, or target) if asked. Trump or his attorney asked and Rosenstein told them the truth. That’s not being complicit, no matter how much the Dotard screams that he’s not a target. That’s following the law. Subjects of investigations can become targets in an instant, but Trump is too arrogant to realize this.

      Trump does know that he is guilty, guilty, guilty and so should have skipperdeed off to some friendly country for exile by now. But Trump has always been able to bribe or bully his way out of trouble before, so he assumes that will be the case this time. He has no idea how to deal with honest people who can’t be bribed and who don’t cave to intimidation.