Kim Kardashian worries that people will think she has deplorable political beliefs too


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Kanye West is canceled. He’s been canceled. Whatever is going on with him right now is not pretty, it’s not helpful, it’s not educated, it’s not philosophical, it’s not thought-provoking, and it’s not good. It’s just messy, sad and exhausting. I suspect that most rational people and most non-Deplorables have canceled Kanye at this point. The “Kanye West Brand” is dead. That’s why I’m not doing wall-to-wall coverage of Kanye’s interviews and tweets at this point: because he has destroyed his brand, and because I’m over it. I’d prefer to not give him any more attention unless it’s urgent or supremely gossip-worthy.

Beyond that, let’s give it up for Kim Kardashian for doing the most to distract from Kanye’s mess. She’s been posting nude photos, she’s been posting photos of her children, she’s been giving interviews about her sisters, anything to distract and pull attention. According to Us Weekly, Kim is really worried NOW that people will associate her brand and her politics with her husband’s ignorance and Deplorable politics.

Kim is worried, according to a source: “Kim isn’t mad about [the Trump] tweets. But she’s worried that people will think she shares the same views.”

Why she tweeted about Kanye’s beliefs: “She was worried if she stayed silent, fans would take it as her not having an opinion or agreeing with him…They’ve always had their own opinions and been their own people. This is the Kanye that Kim has always known.”

There’s no drama between Kanye & Kris Jenner: “The reports of him and Kris having explosive fights and Kim being pissed are comical and couldn’t be further from the truth.”

The source believes Kanye is just promoting his album: “He did exactly the same thing the last time he had an album coming out. This is Kanye — this is his thing!”

[From Us Weekly]

For what it’s worth, I’m pretty aligned with Kim’s political beliefs. She’s a Democrat who voted for Hillary Clinton and gave money to Clinton’s campaign. She supported and voted for Obama too. Kim is pro-gun control, pro-Planned Parenthood, pro-choice and pro-LGBTQ rights. She’s not the most liberal person in the world, but she’s definitely left of center. And she doesn’t have the same political beliefs as her husband. Let Kanye own his own sh-t. Hate Kim because she’s trying to distract us from Kanye’s cancellation. But don’t hate her because you think she shares Kanye’s politics. She doesn’t.

As I was writing this, this story popped up though: Kim is talking to Jared Kushner about getting a pardon for a non-violent drug offender. It’s an interesting read.

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  1. Kitty says:

    If this is going to hurt her brand too much, I suspect a divorce is coming

    • Zondie says:

      She’s divorced for less..

    • minx says:

      I would say in 3, 2, 1….

    • Umyeah says:

      Sounds about right to me

    • TheOtherOne says:

      Agreed. She’ll file for divorce by the fall/beginning of the school year.

    • BlueSky says:

      I’m not buying the whole “he’s doing this for album promotion”’excuse. This is who he is and his behavior has escalated. I’m not a psychiatrist but I do believe he’s bipolar and suffers from a personality disorder. Those who are bipolar are the worst when it comes to compliance with medications. Once they think they are okay they think they don’t need their medication. But I do think generally he’s just a pompous a$$hole who has a sense of entitlement. He thinks he’s being a provocateur and he’s just displaying his own ignorance and how out of touch he’s become.

      • Bella bella says:

        I think it’s really irresponsible to sum up all bipolar people and say they “are the worst when it comes to compliance with medications.” I know people who are bipolar, who are quite diligent about taking their meds because they care about their mental health and being able to function well on a day-to-day basis. It’s not taking meds that it is difficult for them. It’s the unfortunate chemical system in their brain, and they do everything in their power to counteract it so that they don’t spin out or get depressed. Please don’t stigmatize those with mental health issues.

      • bella says:

        Thanks for generalizing about people with bipolar! Great armchair diagnosis, too.

      • MarcelMarcel says:

        @bluesky
        If you do work in the mental health industry than I hope you work on your negative attitudes. Because your gross generalisations about people with bipolar are incredibly unhelpful.

        My friends with more complex mental health issues ie bipolar, schizophrenia, BPD struggle to find support. Partially because the stigmatisation of mental health issues means health professional project stereotypes onto them instead of providing help. Statements like yours reinforce that stigmatisation.

        Meanwhile Kayne’s awful politics have literally nothing to with his alleged mental health struggles. Plenty of right wing nutjobs are perfectly sane bigots.

      • BlueSky says:

        @marcelmarcel please stop.. never said I was a mental health professional just experienced dealing with bipolar disorders and getting feedback from those who treat bipolar patients. I am aware of the different types of bipolar disorders. As I’ve said, merely expressing my opinions onb ased on what I’ve seen and dealt with. And the numerous research articles I have read regarding the challenges of non adherence. Relax. Didn’t mean to imply I was generalizing. Are you okay now?

      • BlueSky says:

        @bella Bella I work in the healthcare industry and merely voicing my opinion and experience with people suffering from mental health issues. It’s not irresponsible when you back it up with facts. Treatment adherence is an issue with those suffering with bipolar. 60% of bipolar patients are at least partially non adherent to medications.
        I spent 5 years dealing with individuals with mental health issues and it’s an issue.
        I spent every day fighting against stigmas of people with mental issues so don’t assume I don’t know of what I speak, dear.

    • Clare says:

      Brand or no brand, I’d be thinking divorce, too, if my husband had been on another rampage and making extremely offensive (and incorrect) statements about slavery. I wouldn’t want to share a home or Mubarak ice with someone who holds those views.

    • Frida says:

      Honestly, a big part of her brand is being Kanye’s Wife, so yes, it IS damaging her brand to stay married to him. If she and PMK can’t stop him/deflect with scandal/pregnancy/clean up his mess, it’s divorce with a capital D.

      Look for a Tristan bombshell to drop any day now. It won’t work, but that’s likely the next move in the Kardashian Playbook.

  2. Alyce says:

    My new theory about Kanye is that Russia paid off all of his debt and now are giving him talking points.

    Kim is probably leaving any minute now.

  3. kacy says:

    She should rest easy. We know she doesn’t have strong convictions about much except staying famous and rich.

  4. savu says:

    Sounds like it came straight from Kamp K, which is fine. Can’t blame them for wanting to distance Kim from Kanye’s gross beliefs.

    I also think there’s something wrong with him. I don’t think it’s all for publicity, I think he’s not okay. I hope somebody intervenes and he gets help.

  5. Léna says:

    How can you marry someone that has totally different political opinions?
    I dated a guy that was really far on the right spectrum for 3 weeks and the more I learned about his views (pro Trump, pro Le Pen, against homosexuals’ rights and abortion etc…) the less I could look him in the eyes. I could never date someone that doesn’t have the same fundamental views as me on certain topics (social topics more than economical one), needless to say marry someone like that.

    • Kitty says:

      My guess is that Kim and Kanye don’t spend much time together and probably don’t have many meaningful conversations

    • AnnaKist says:

      Last year, my daughter dumped her very good looking, terribly wealthy pharmacist suitor for exactly this. He is a rabid trump and Kanye West acolyte. She wasn’t having a bar of any of that tripe.

    • Beth says:

      Not every couple always has the same opinion as each other on everything. These days, different political opinions are causing trouble in otherwise long, happy relationships. My bf is a family lawyer, and says lots of his clients were married for years (a recent client had been married 50 years), they had stayed married through other disagreements about politics and other important things, but Trump was their breaking point.

      • Anon33 says:

        Because it’s not about benign “political differences” anymore. It’s about state sponsored hate.

      • Kitty says:

        It’s not so much about different political views anymore as it is support of a tyrant. I would have an awful hard time respecting someone after finding out they were a trump apologist.

      • NotTodaySatan says:

        Politically …..Husband and I aren’t on the same page…we are in the same book usually but very different chapters.

        We did not vote for the same presidential candidate in 2016…first time in 1(then) 12 years of marriage.

        We’ve made adjustments to just how much — and how far — we discuss it.

      • SilverUnicorn says:

        @Beth

        That was the case until 10-15 years ago.
        Nowadays everything has changed. If my husband wasn’t on my same political page, he would have gotten the kick.

        Here in UK I have known EU-British couples where the British partner has voted for Brexit (i.e. putting in danger the rights of his/her spouse). Needless to say, they have all separated since 2016.

        I’d venture to say that it is something different when you are married to a Conservative rather than a full-blown fascist supporting Trump.

      • lucy2 says:

        I agree with Anon and Kitty – this stuff goes beyond politics, it’s basic core values and respect for others.
        I don’t think I could (or would want to) willingly be with someone who was all in on Trump & Co.’s ideology.

  6. Umyeah says:

    Wow once again her concern is HER not the health and well being of her husband and father of her children.

    • kasxyz says:

      That was my first thought…all about her…smh

    • anna says:

      as it should be! only kanye is responsible for kanye. just because she’s a woman, she has to be the charitable caregiver and put his needs before hers? that would be stupid and wrong and i hate hate hate that so many commenters use her self-preservation strategies against her.

      • Umyeah says:

        @anna _ She is not worried about her “self preservation”, she is worried about loosing money and fans. If you love someone and see them struggeling with mental illness you dont let them flonder. You cant force them to do anything but you can certainly intervene and suggest they seek treatment.

      • Mel says:

        You know what? I totally agree with you. There’s selfishness and there’s self-preservation.
        It’s not like it’s the first time, too. She has stuck by him before. He needs to grow up and take responsibility for his words and actions.
        Why should she stay when any other woman would probably get a « get out of there » speech?
        And I’m such a NON Kardashian apologist it’s not even funny!

      • Amanduh says:

        Excellent points, Anna.
        When the plane is going down, secure your oxygen mask first, then help others.

        @UmYeah: …”She is not worried about her “self preservation”, she is worried about loosing money and fans.”
        …soooo she *is* worried about self-preservation (her brand), yes??
        Yes.

      • Kitty says:

        Just because he may be mentally ill, it doesn’t mean that Kim should stay with him. That kind of behaviour would put a strain on any relationship, and when the mentally ill person isn’t willing to get help, what can you do?

      • Umyeah says:

        It really disturbs me the amount of people who would push a loved one aside when they are suffering a mental illness. This is the father of her children and while we sit around talking about Kanyes well being she is releasing statememts about polotical associations. Why isnt she with him? Telling him his actions are disturbing her and she wants him to seek help. There is nothing to suggest Kim has done anything to help Kanye. If one of her kids suffers from a mental illness will you all expect her to turn her back on them? Imagine if everyone just gave up on people the minute they show signs of a mental illness???

      • HK9 says:

        @Umyeah-I agree with you. We know Kanye was treated for mental illness. It’s documented. If he can’t advocate for himself, she needs to intervene. She had his children and they deserve a father who is fully present, just as she deserves a spouse that’s fully present and that can’t happen if he’s not being treated. This can be treated if it’s addressed and the problem here is Kim’s pretending like the problem doesn’t exist. If he did this to her, he would be labeled as an even bigger narcissist than he already is. Her children are being affected by this and it’s her job as a Mother to do what she can do or she’ll have to answer to her kids later on.

        When my mom had a psychotic break due to dementia, I didn’t walk away and say, welp, she’s an adult she can handle this. I got her the help she needed. Since they have children they’ll be in each others lives until they die, so, she might as well be proactive.

      • Amanduh says:

        @HK9…. “We know Kanye was treated for mental illness. It’s documented.”
        …can you provide a link?? I can’t find anything to substantiate your claim. He had a breakdown (“breakthrough” as he calls it) but I see nothing about mental illness and treatments he received.

      • Amanduh says:

        @UmYeah…I’m not seeing anything about “mental illness” and getting treatment for it.

        From his interview with Charlamagne:
        “Kanye told Charlamagne that after having a mental breakdown, which he called a “breakthrough,” last year, he’s been recovering through talking with family and friends at length.

        Language is important; often people use the word “crazy” to diminish others, casting stigma on mental illness. The word is often used to write someone off as unreliable or, plainly, mentally ill. Using such language can increase stigma surrounding mental illness, which can prevent people who need it from seeking treatment.

        *** Kanye said he does not go to therapy, but talks to his family and friends instead.” ***

        So…again, I’m not seeing anything about ‘mental illness’ or treatment.

      • SilverUnicorn says:

        @Umyeah

        It is very, very common though. Not just mental illness. I had 2 acquaintances of mine, one losing her husband, the other her fiance after they found out they had cancer.
        My brother was abandoned by his long-term girlfriend when it came out he had schizophrenia. Needless to say he hasn’t found a partner since.

        I know that marriage vows include “through thick and thin” but very often the ones who are sick find themselves abandoned and alone.
        I lost a long-term boyfriend after a car accident where I had extensive physical damages and from that point on I was not able to carry out all daily tasks with ease (as well as losing the possibility of getting pregnant). C’est la vie.

    • HK9 says:

      @Amanduh https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/kanye-west-files-10-million-lawsuit-tour-canceled-due-his-mental-breakdown-1025718
      Kanye’s doctors had to confirm to his insurance company that he had a mental breakdown for the company to pay out when he cancelled his last tour. He had to be examined by their doctors who agreed he was not able to tour. When insurance company doctors who are paid to be contrary, agree you had a mental breakdown that’s what you had.

      • Amanduh says:

        Okay…but a “breakdown” is acute and temporary; an “illness” (for example, bipolar, depression, anxiety, schizophrenia) is a lifelong condition.

      • HK9 says:

        Just because something is treatable, and not sustained such as a mental breakdown, doesn’t mean it’s not a precusor to a larger issue. A mental breakdown is a serious health matter. It’s not the common cold of mental illness that can be ignored. For the Lloyds of London doctors who’ve made a career out of telling people who’ve paid millions of dollars for coverage-”you’re not sick so we’re not paying this claim” agree with the mental health professions at UCLA that means you.have.a.mental.illness. A doctor can’t come out and say “I diagnosed Kanye with X disorder” without the permission of the patient because he/she would lose their license in a millisecond.

      • Amanduh says:

        So why is okay for us to speculate? We *dont* know he has a mental illness (ZERO confirmation, no “Kanye is bipolar” diagnosed) and we *dont* know what drugs he was treated with.
        Sounds like he actually had a drug addiction:
        https://www.google.ca/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/570097002

      • HK9 says:

        I’m not speculating. I’m going on the fact that doctors who don’t care about Kanye one way or the other, know there’s a problem. I never said he was ‘bipolar’ I said he had a mental breakdown which was what was reported and documented. Many people who are abusing drugs are actually masking and trying to medicate undiagnosed mental illness. Any psych ward nurse/doctor will tell you that. Many times they go hand in hand. While we don’t know what drugs he’s on, we know he was medicated long after his stint at UCLA. If he had a drug problem, he’d be in rehab-not the UCLA psych ward. They know the difference-this is what they do.

        You also have to know that in the black community the stigma against mental illness is deeply entrenched. No one, wants to deal with the fact that someone they love has a mental illness and they ignore & deny until that person loses their livelihood and/or their life. Kanye is not immune to this attitude internally or externally. There is a problem here that goes beyond assholery and stunt pulling for PR. We’ve all seen slick PR campaigns-this is not one of them.

      • Amanduh says:

        …I guess I was just wondering if he was *actually* diagnosed with anything, since the poster (you? Umyeah?) claimed: “we know he has a mental illness, it’s well documented.”
        …because we *don’t* and it’s not.

      • kacy says:

        I have heard of very few incidents where breakdowns didn’t result from a longer-term condition. Typically, anyone who is actually hospitalized due to a mental concern has a major diagnosis. Otherwise, they would treat it as outpatient vs inpatient.

      • Amanduh says:

        Correct, Kacy.
        However…if you reread the comment above yours, you would understand that my issue is the original poster states, “he has a mental illness. It’s well documented” when that’s not true: we *don’t* know for sure that he has a mental illness (aside from armchair speculations) and therefore it’s not well-documented.

  7. Savasana Lotus says:

    I’ve always believed that Kim used Kanye. She doesn’t want a lover. She wanted babies and a man that leaves her alone. She needs control. She’s a part of this verbal explosion somehow. As long as it sells his shoes. I see she’s back to the heavy white under her eyes to the cheekbone again. Now that she’s been botoxed and lasered within an inch of her life, she look super alien. Good cosmetic and makeup work should never make you look like a different human.

  8. Jen says:

    I wouldn’t be surprised if she’s not as liberal as we think. Look at Caitlin’s politics. Look at her saying she wasn’t sure if she was voting in 2016 (until she faced a huge backlash).

    • Jayna says:

      I think Kris voted Republican like her husband did, Bruce Jenner. She may have changed in the later elections, but that’s out of necessity also. I believe it’s all about how much of their wealth they keep is why they were Republicans and would care about that over anything else.

  9. Jen says:

    I was a Kanye fan for a long time. I saw him live right before the College Dropout was released and I’ve loved a lot of his music. This Kanye-can’t even wrap my head around. It’s genuinely sad to me.

    I will put some of this on the K Klan, and I’m sure people will disagree, but I think the loss of his mother and his becoming so closely knitted with a materialistic, shallow family who lives for attention and a publicity stunt paved some of this road.

    • Arabella says:

      Jen, I’m more in your boat. @kaiser, I typically agree with you, but in this case I disagree. I don’t think Kanye is cancelled. He’s crazy and possibly having mental health issues, but he’s not cancelled. I’m still going to listen to his music and I’m not even the most rabid fan.

  10. Aiobhan Targaryen says:

    If this is true, this just confirms to me that their marriage was a joke and they never really cared about each other, just the money and the fame. Which is fine, adults are allowed to enter into consensual relationships that best suit them

    Her mother is slipping, this story makes her look horrible. Not as bad as Kanye but close. The guy is making an ass out of himself and she is only worrying about herself. Not her husband and the father of her kids. She could have tried to eek out a few tears and could have released a few lies about she has tried to help him, doesn’t understand what is going on with him and then slowly released the divorce axe. Everyone would have understood and she would have come out the winner, as usual. Instead she does this.

    She is trying to rebrand herself as a white savior and it is sadly working on some people.

  11. Diane says:

    In the long run, Kanye is never going to be an asset to Trump and his followers.

  12. Red32 says:

    I’d be more worried that the father of my young children was clearly out of his mind and manic than what strangers think my political beliefs are, but OK . . .

  13. dumbledork says:

    We don’t give Melania a pass for who she chose to marry, not sure why we would with Kim. And don’t forget, she stood by and posed for pictures at her dipshit husband’s art show, where he took the likeliness of women, without their consent, and showed them naked. She is as bad as him.

    • Kitty says:

      I always thought that was strange, the naked art show. I think Kim isn’t smart enough to realize that people wouldn’t be flattered by it, that not everybody wants to be flaunting their body the way she does

    • lucy2 says:

      She was all for it when the benefits outweighed the costs. If he continues in this way, it’s going to end up costing her. When that gets to high, I think she’ll bail, and be looking for public sympathy.
      I’ve never thought theirs was a “normal” marriage, but now there are three young kids involved, and the whole situation seems unhealthy for them.

      • Crimson says:

        @lucy2 – Bingo! on your last sentence and why I despise this woman.

        Would Kim leave her three kids alone with only Kanye to care for them for even one night (no nannies, no extended family to help)? I’m speculating, but I highly doubt it. She’d be afraid for their welfare. Once kids are brought into a relationship, you owe it to them to “Straighten up and fly right.” These innocents didn’t ask to be born into such a mess of a family.

        I know I shouldn’t care so much, but it turns my stomach. Money can’t buy them stability and the security they should feel from loving parents… but I guess it can buy a sh*tload of future therapy sessions. Who knows? If this is the only normal they experience, it could turn out ok. (However, with this family I feel as if we’re watching a giant social science experiment unfold, and decades later we’ll compare the generations.)

  14. me says:

    Her kids are so cute…that’s the only good thing that came out of this marriage. It just seems stressful. I mean I guess the Kardashians got A list status through Kanye…but what did Kanye get? He became obsessed with getting called “fat”…something the K Klan hate. He got lipo because of it ! I also wonder has anyone seen a pic of baby Chicago without filters? Why does Kim always use filters on the baby?

    • Kitty says:

      Tons of people use those snap chat filters on their kids, I know my younger sister thought it was hilarious when my kid was a baby to do those pictures with her. And I wouldn’t blame Kim for Kanye getting lipo, he’s always been a narcissistic, self centred person, way before he was with her. I’m sure if he thought he was getting fat, he wouldn’t need anyone to tell him to get lipo

  15. SheBug says:

    I don’t think he thinks these things when he’s in his right mind. This seems like a really bad manic phase. Kim should be trying to help get him treatment, not worrying about her brand. She could be supporting him and then her platform could be raising awareness of Bipolar etc. But she’s hanging him out to dry. It’s so messed up. It’s all about her, all the time.

    • Kitty says:

      She has actually been supporting him in the press, she did last time he supported trump too. Kanye is a grown man, a very narcissistic man at that…do you think he is going to willingly get help for his issues or even admit that he has something like bipolar. I have an aunt who has been an alcoholic for many years, she had half her liver removed and still continued to drink. It’s finally gone to her head and she has been out of control crazy. My grandmother has tried, my other aunts, her husband, children, but after years it’s over. She won’t get help, she’s cut off from her grandchildren, in and out of jail now. Sometimes you can only do so much for someone, but if they aren’t willing to help theirselves..what choice do you have. If this escalates because he’s mentally ill and won’t get treatment, Kim should take those babies and run for the hills. Eventually he will be a danger to others as well as himself

      • SheBug says:

        I’m sorry about your aunt, that’s terrible. With Kim, I do feel like she might be able to have him committed, or get some kind of conservatorship like Britney’s family did. She can afford the best doctors and lawyers. It just seems like they’re leaving him out in the cold. They have resources middle-class people don’t have access to.

      • Crimson says:

        @Kitty – My sympathy to you and your strong family. It takes courage and patience beyond belief to be supportive of a self-destructive person. As you stated, you can only do so much before you finally realize it’s up to that person alone to change. It’s emotionally hard to cut them out of your life, but you must. Your family should feel no guilt.

  16. HelloSunshine says:

    While I don’t think Kim should be held responsible for Kanye’s antics, I do think it’s fair that people are asking what she thinks about the slavery comments, especially since she defended him yesterday or whatever and said he’s entitled to his opinion. She’s raising mixed children, is she going to deny to them how awful slavery was? How their ancestors were probably brought over on a slave ship, stolen from their homes, and put through absolute hell? No amount of naked pictures or pictures of her children (dear lord, I never want to type that in the same sentence again) will distract from this.
    Now is she going to divorce him? Because this is hurting the K brand for sure.

  17. jferber says:

    Kitty nailed it in the first post. If he f-cks with her brand, it’s over. I’m sure Mama Kris has a string of divorce lawyers on speed dial. The only way they can save this is if he’s signed into a mental institution (willingly or otherwise) and after rehab/treatment/whatever, he claims his political views were a manifestation of his madness, beginning with Donda’s death, his own liposcution and consequent addiction to opiates. He’ll have to repent repeatedly and tearfully, donate a bunch of money to progressive causes, call out Trump, etc. etc. etc. It will be EXHAUSTING for all concerned.

  18. No Doubtful says:

    I don’t know how people do relationships with an SO who have vastly different political beliefs. I honestly don’t think I could ever date a republican – especially after this Trump era.

    • Kitty says:

      My mother in law recently went on vacation in the southern US (they own a house in Arizona they got super cheap when the housing market went to shit…we live in Canada) she went to Texas for a few days to visit a cousin of hers who moved there years ago. She was speechless at how different he was, and how different people there were. They all had guns on their hips, huge trump supporters, if they saw a Muslim or dark skinned person in the area, they just about lost it. My mother in law said her cousin called the cops one day after a “Muslim” walked past their house. It turned out to be an American citizen who’s parents were from India. He was honest to god ready to go after this guy for just walking past his house and being dark skinned. My poor mother in law was so disgusted, she had to keep her mouth shut about guns and trump because she didn’t want to ruin her trip.

      • Crimson says:

        @Kitty – I’ve lived in all three places you mentioned and grew up in a city that has a high Middle Eastern population as well as a dominant black population. I’ve seen it all, from every angle. I am very grateful to have been raised where (I felt) equality was the norm – granted, not all the time because we had our share of rednecks – but incidents of prejudice were few.

        Sadly, since 911 there’s been an increase in prejudice/crimes against people because perpetrators (idiots) assume they’re Muslim. Wtf? We are all Americans, at least four or more generations deep. I can confirm, Texas was the ultimate for bigotry. Lol, if I was in your MIL’s place, I would have taken the chance at ruining my visit and called the cousin a crazy fool. I’d leave and put as much distance between him and me as possible. I won’t associate with people like that, relative or not. Life is too short to have that negativity near me. (I bet she doesn’t visit him again!)

    • madonami says:

      Honestly, supporting Trump, or being a Republican, is an automatic dating DQ for me. It might not have been, I dunno, decades ago, but it sure is now.

      A friend of mine got married about 10 years ago. During the campaign, he went for Trump, she went for HRC. They are in the process of getting divorced. They’re not getting divorced b/c of politics, they didn’t talk about the election or have the news on at all at home b/c it would just start a fight, but they are getting divorced b/c their attitudes/beliefs/world views are so incompatible. When Trump won, their oldest daughter, who was 6 at the time, went to her mother upset b/c “the bad man won.” She was 6 and the news was never on in the house, and politics was never discussed in their house, and this kid had still picked up on “the bad man won.” They were already headed for divorce, but watching her husband support this misogynist pig, and with two little girls to raise with him, I’m sure that contributed to her decision to leave.

      As many have said for a while now, this one is/was not about “politics” really. It was about values and one side was objectively right and one was objectively unacceptable, period, end of.

  19. madonami says:

    Nope. I made a new rule after 2016. Those who get down with, make excuses for, try to explain, Trumpers, are as canceled as the Trumpers themselves.

    We all have stories about discovering some ugly true colors of people around us as a result of The Election From Hell. I had a fairly close friend who, around me, was anti-Trump, “ride or die” for HRC, etc. Then, her brother and her roommate both outed themselves as absolutely vile bigots and, shocker, Trumpers. The brother posted disgusting and often violent memes about women, Muslims, Black people, you name it. (He’s also a police officer, so that’s a great recipe.) The roommate got into a convo about the election in which she stated that she was voting for Trump because “the Muslims want to come here and take over,” refugees are all terrorists, women shouldn’t vote b/c they’re too emotional, etc. This chick also routinely cheats on whatever guy she’s with, gets with married men, on the regular. Obviously, she and the brother were excised from my view/life immediately. I wasn’t terribly close to them to begin with, so that was easy.

    But the friend. Everyone else in the convo (which included a Muslim woman and a woman who came to the US as a refugee and roommate knew this and still said this stuff to them) was totally grossed out by roommate. But my friend was making excuses for her. Well, she watches Fox, Well, she doesn’t mean it that way. Well, married guy flirted with her too, so. My friend’s core values turned out to not be *core* at all. She’d say one set of things to me, knowing where I stand, and act entirely differently in other company. And we are not talking about standard behavior adjustment depending on environment. It was about core, core value important stuff. That friend has been relegated to outer acquaintance status as a result. It was painful. But there are (should be) social consequences for declaring yourself a misogynist bigot, or an apologist for one. #sorrynotsorry

    When somebody can overlook/excuse some high level grossness, that tells me as much about their integrity/values as it does about the person they’re excusing. So, I don’t think Kim shares Kanye’s views. I’m not even sure Kanye shares Kanye’s views; hard to know if he’s well, if he thinks this is ok to do as a publicity stunt (it’s not). But, if Kim can overlook/excuse someone doing what Kanye’s been doing? Yeah, that tells me about her too.

  20. CK3 says:

    I actually kind of feel for Kim. She knew she was marrying “George Bush doesn’t care about black people.” Kanye, not “Trump’s African American” Kanye. And now she has 3 young kids and years of emotional connection w/ a guy she probably wouldn’t have hitched herself to. She probably knew that Kanye was a bit conservative, but the extent to which Trump has radicalized people can’t be underestimated and overlooked. People are speaking up and acknowledging deplorable viewpoints that only the loudest among them spoke about before. Mix that in with the adoption of Trump’s own toxic politics and you get a lot radicalized voters.

    • me says:

      I think she knew what she was getting herself in to. There is a reason Kanye chased Kim for years but Kim never gave in…until after her second divorce. I bet if Kanye was Kim’s first marriage, she would have filed for divorce already. It’s her third…she probably doesn’t want to get divorced again, plus there are 3 children involved. I think she will hold on longer, hoping the public will love Kanye again. The deciding factor will probably be whether or not Kanye can “bounce back” from this. If not, then it “hurts the brand” and he’ll be pushed out of the family like all the other men. They didn’t even spare Rob, and he’s blood !

  21. Swack says:

    When you have this: “Kim is worried, according to a source: “Kim isn’t mad about [the Trump] tweets. But she’s worried that people will think she shares the same views.” ” of course people are going to think she has the same views.

  22. Amelie says:

    They will eventually divorce, there is no doubt in my mind. Kanye is bad for Kim’s brand and companies will start disassociating themselves with her if Kanye keeps it up and if it looks like Kim is supporting him. I think she will hang on for a few more years but it will happen. Everyone said they were on the brink of divorce in Kanye’s last breakdown (when Kim had barely recovered from the Paris robbery) but they somehow pulled through. But you can only take so much insanity from one person.

  23. Bev says:

    She does have deplorable taste in clothing and men.