Emily Ratajkowski: ‘I think Kim Kardashian is actually an incredible feminist’

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I always have to do a double-take whenever I see a new Emily Ratajkowski interview, because I’m always like “damn, did we already cover this?” It’s because she talks about the SAME things in interview after interview. I could have predicted the quotes from Emily’s new Elle Australia cover interview in my sleep: she’s going to talk vaguely about how feminism is about her right to post sexy Instagrams, she’s going to talk about Kim Kardashian and she’s going to talk about her boobs. Let’s see if I was right!

She’s smart, she swears: “No matter what we look like, all women are put into stereotypical boxes really quickly. I’ve definitely experienced that. I mean, most profiles written about me are like, ‘We’re so surprised she’s smart!’ On one hand, I get that it’s natural instinct to have an idea about someone, but also, f–k you.”

About being “bold & beautiful”: “I don’t think I’ve ever been known to play by the rules. I’m not afraid to speak my mind, but with that being said, I do hope that what I put out there is positive. When a woman is comfortable with her sexuality and doesn’t need validation from men, she kind of makes a lot of things irrelevant that people really care about, and it pisses people off.” But accepting her body, says Ratajkowski, “makes me feel powerful. If people are that scared, then there must be something to be scared of.”

On her critics: “I think it’s really bad for women, this competition and ‘judginess’. It’s something I deal with every day when I get dressed, like are you being objectified or are you being empowered? And I truly believe that no matter who looks at me and thinks, ‘Oh God, she’s wearing a tank top and look at her boobs, how sad that she’s a victim of the patriarchy,’ I’m thinking, ‘Well, f–k you, I feel great. And I like what I’m wearing, and I like how I look. That’s more important than your idea about that.'”

The women she defends: “I was like, ‘This is funny that these are the people that I end up fighting for.’ But I kind of feel like they’re the most important people, too. Like, don’t differentiate, don’t change your politics because you don’t think a person with a sex tape deserves protection or you discount somebody because of their sexual history. I think Kim Kardashian is actually an incredible feminist. I channel her when I’m having a bad day. I’m like, ‘Here’s someone who really doesn’t give a sh-t what anyone thinks.’ I would like to be that person who is above it all, and she is that way.”

[From Elle]

For the love of God. It’s not that Emily doesn’t have a right to feel how she feels or speak her truth, but I just wish she would get off this particular subject, because it makes her seem so vapid and superficial. Yes, it’s her right to post naked photos of herself. Okay. We get that. What else do you have? Is there any other feminist issue you want to take up beyond “hot girls choosing to show their bodies can be a feminist choice too”? That’s literally been her “cause” for about four years.

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  1. QueenB says:

    “I don’t think I’ve ever been known to play by the rules. ”
    A thin big boobed woman who shows of her patriarchy approved body is very much playing by the rules.

    Feminism gives her the rights to do this but it also gives other women the freedom to mock choice feminism.

    • otaku fairy says:

      “A thin big boobed woman who shows of her patriarchy approved body is very much playing by the rules.”
      This half-truth ignores the fact that there is more than one set of rules women are pushed to play by though. I agree that she’s not breaking any rules when it comes to patriarchal beauty standards. That’s true of any thin model or actress whether she poses nude or not. However, girls and women are also manipulated and abused into playing by victim-blaming patriarchal rules about what makes a respectable, moral woman. So she can honestly say that she’s not playing by those rules.

    • Eliza says:

      The definition is social, economic and political equality of genders.

      So per definition is she’s trying to fight to be as socially accepted to pose naked for ad money as any man would be to do the same?

      I’m definitely missing something. Is it the stigma? Male nudity isn’t really a commodity to sell so theres less stigma? I wouldn’t put this career (for either gender) up there in terms of impressive resumes.

      • jwoolman says:

        I guess the question to ask is if she would operate any differently if all the men vanished tomorrow.

        I think she is underestimating the role men play in her decisions. And in Kim Kardashian’s decisions. Kim has actually always seemed defined by her relationships with men, she changes quite a bit for each one.

        The exception was her second husband, who was much younger and she clearly felt entirely in charge. But she rapidly dumped him after a couple of months when Kanye pointed out that he was single and still interested in her.

    • Apalapa says:

      You knw what makes people really uncomfortable, besides showing your boobs? talk about FOSTA and defend sex workers and their right to earn money from dressing as they do and showing their bodies rather than cape for Kim Kardashian.

      Or maybe she could cape for someone like Lizzo or Lindy West and their right to show as much or as little skin without getting death threats, simply because they live in bodies considered far from the ideal.

      Talk about how dressing one way doesn’t make you safe from assault but she has privilege as a thin white lady that people will believe her much more than other women who get silenced. I have seen her instagram and it is not much activism.

      As for smart, I think caring for others is a type of intelligence. But I see her and her insta only caring about Her. That is not feminism that is narcissism. And yeah even a narcissist does a good deed every so often.

    • magnoliarose says:

      She is a fraud. Her whole existence is based on profiting from the male gaze and she married a malignant misogynist who makes rape jokes. Together that tells me more about her than her rote interviews full of excuses.
      There are new discussions about choice feminism and women like Emily and it has made me rethink a lot of what I accepted previously. There is a stark difference between shaming women and sex workers and what Emily espouses. Nothing she does furthers anything and I don’t buy what she is selling. What does she DO besides blah blah blah?
      Add that to her continuing surgical enhancements.
      She wants to do what she does, which is fine, but she wants to make it a political statement and it isn’t. This pertains to HER and not anyone else.
      We are in a political landscape that demands that women mobilize. Her nudity just isn’t that important in 2018.

  2. lightpurple says:

    Dear Emily, if you want me to believe you are smart, please talk about something other than being put in a stereotypical box because you like to show your body because it is very difficult for me to assess your intelligence based only upon you talking about nothing but your own body. Healthcare, Emily, any opinion? The environment? What are your favorite books, Emily? Do you like math, Emily? What’s your favorite era in history and why, Emily? Emily? No, I don’t need to look at your boobs, I have a pair of my own. Kim inspires you? Abigail Adams, Marie Curie, Katherine Johnson, Eleanor Roosevelt inspire me. Let’s compare them, shall we?

    • km says:

      THIS!!

    • Kitten says:

      EXACTLY, LP!!!

      Gah. She is seriously the most grating woman..

      • Anika says:

        Yes, she is vapid, dull, and superficial. She’s utterly monotone. She also knows nothing about feminism, she’s far too much of a narcissist for that, just like her idol, self proclaimed non feminist Kim. Emily (and Kim) are all about their OWN egos, they do nothing to encourage other women’s confidence and empowerment. All Emily does is try to draw attention to herself. To say, Look, see how perfect the patriarchal ideal of the female body I am, look at me! She lives to bask in the male gaze, and to talk about how smart and enlightened she is, repeatedly. She’s far too dumb to figure out that if you have to TELL everyone you’re smart (or an enlightened feminist) over and over, then you’re actually not.

    • Naddie says:

      Unfortunately I don’t think she’s asked about these things, which creates a cricle of same old thing. Hell, they already start with “she’s pretty and smart!” as if it was something rare on us. I would have more interesting questions to her, I swear!

      • Derrière says:

        There have been multiple interviews from Emily. These interviewees don’t just come in without giving them an idea of what will be asked. And if they do, Emily can ask that they focus her interview on her charitable works, intellectual interests, unusual hobbies…

      • Milla says:

        She uses soc media. So she can speak up. Chrissy Teigen does it all the time. I am not her fan, but she’s not stupid. Saying I’m not stupid but still doing the same photos every day… It’s boring. She is using her body to make some point, but that point was never shown.

    • Dazeem, Adele says:

      WORD. when is this woman going to stop GETTING interviews???

    • j says:

      she. has. so. much. internalized. patriarchy.

    • magnoliarose says:

      Absolutely. Tired of her.

  3. Melania says:

    Sure, Emily.

  4. perplexed says:

    I actually thought she was a smart person at some point, but now I’m not so sure. I did a double-take when she was basically saying she was “fighting” for Kim Kardashian.

    • Lee says:

      That comment made me throw up a little in my mouth. How the hell can she consider KK a feminist?

  5. Maya says:

    These women really don’t know the true definition of feminist, do they?

    Feminism is about giving women the right to chose whatever they want to do. Giving them the same salary and applaud as the men, right to vote, drive and even pose naked.

    As long as it is the woman who decides to do the thing she wants, then that is feminism.

    • otaku fairy says:

      I just love how women like her manage to piss off both sex-negative feminists and conservatives at the same time. Neither can look away. That’s good. They need to be pissed! Both are in the habit of expecting young women- and women in general- to obey them at all times.

      • Apalapa says:

        i feel neutral about her. She is as meaningless to me as Blac Chyna’s boyfriend or any other insta model out there. I do wish she would do more with her platform, if she is going to claim feminist, even a bad feminist a la Roxane Gay, but her talent is literally no different than a sex worker and she gets praised as edgy while they get criminalized for trying to make a living? for her to speak on that dichotomy would be true sex positivity to me.

    • Naddie says:

      Sometimes it’s just a woman’s choice, not feminism.

    • Dana says:

      “As long as it is the woman who decides to do the thing she wants, then that is feminism”

      That’s why women like Sarah Sanders, Gina Haspel, & Kirstjen Nielsen are great examples of feminism in action, right? After all, they’ve decided to do the thing they want!

      This kind of “I chose my choice” apolitical feminism has done so much damage to the movement, but it seems sadly inevitable given how hyper individualistic this culture is.

  6. OriginalLala says:

    *sigh* We get it Emily, you’re young and pretty with great boobs that you want to show off and are a self-proclaimed feminist. I am also all of those things (and I have PhD, so I’m a real, honest to god dorky smarty pants) and when I list my feminist icons, culture-vulture Kim K is nowhere near my list… Isn’t there other things to discuss when talking about feminism and the struggle to be a woman? it’s all so superficial and vapid…

    #peakwhitefeminism

  7. Hazel says:

    Ugh, I can’t with her. She just seems so fake when she talks about these issues. She uses feminism as a shield to justify baring her boobs and her body on Instagram and in any medium. But the truth of the matter is, she has no discernable talent other than baring that said body.

    • JeanGray says:

      And she’s not the only one. There are more than a few, including Kim and Amber Rose that use that feminism shield you speak of. Amber Rose once made a comment around the lines that if men can cheat/have affairs and be given a pass. women should too, because…feminism, and I don’t get this line of thinking. That doing crappy things should be given a pass because of “equality”. If that’s the case, then I don’t wan’t to be equal in that aspect. We don’t need to be equal in things that are not moral to begin with. Sheesh.

      • otaku fairy says:

        Cheating and immodesty in dress are different subjects though, and shouldn’t be conflated because the former actually is immoral and harmful while the latter just goes against conservative beliefs and pisses off rape apologists.
        I don’t remember that Amber Rose interview you’re talking about, but her argument probably was that women who have affairs shouldn’t be treated worse than men who do the same- not that we should all just cheat on each other. If men are going to get a pass for something, women should get just as much of a pass for it. If men aren’t going to get a pass for something wrong that they do, and are going to get called out for it, women should too- but in the same exact way and for the same amount of time.

      • JeanGray says:

        How about no one should get a pass for trifling behavior, period? I’m not gonna fight to be equal to behaviors that are negative, hurtful and even harmful. Men have been getting passes for a host of awful things, which is why rape culture exists in the first place. It’s like fighting for women to start getting passes for sexual assault as well, because well, people have been turning a bind eye to men that have been doing it forever, because.. “equality!” or”feminism!” Nope Sorry.

      • otaku fairy says:

        You’re missing the point (not sure why violence was brought into it). I’m not saying, “Men cheat, so we should just go out and copy them! Feminist Wins!” I’m saying, people should be treated the same way for the same behavior. Don’t hold one group to a higher standard- hold them both to the same standard and use the same non-gendered slurs to call out the same behavior.

  8. ellebee75 says:

    Kim Kardashian doesn’t need defending. She’s a rich white woman who loves to steal culture and show off her body…she’ll be fine.

    Fight for women that actually need it!

    Also why is she always being interviewed? Apart from always saying the same things, there’s literally no reason to talk to her.

    • Tiffany :) says:

      “Fight for women that actually need it!”

      This!!!!

    • HelloSunshine says:

      Yes! KK doesn’t need her help. Emily, go help Women who actually need it. Women who get put on the “mommy track” at work and see their careers gets stalled because they have kids, or the women getting harassed at work but they fear speaking up because they need their job. Fight for the immigrant women who haven’t seen their children in weeks and have no idea where they are or if they’re okay. Fight for something that matters and not for someone who has all the resources in the world to take care of their every need.
      But that’s not the easy route so we know she won’t do it 🙄

    • Jamie says:

      “why is she always being interviewed? Apart from always saying the same things, there’s literally no reason to talk to her.”

      I think that’s exactly why. She appears on the cover of magazines that trade on the patriarchal idea that thin, big boobed white women showing off their bodies are the epitome of beauty. When you interview someone like Emily whose only contribution is to repeat the idea that playing into that patriarchal system is the definition of “feminism,” she helps those magazines hide behind that sad little Ratajkowsi shield so they can pretend they matter. I think it’s apparent now that this is all they can expect from her; she’ll never bite the hand that feeds her, but instead give them an excuse to claim what they do is feminist – because Emily Ratajkowsi says so.

      • otaku fairy says:

        She never said that that was the definition of feminism- neither has any other liberal woman I can think of over the years who has been open about being empowered through rejecting female sexual immodesty. That’s a strawman brought up by people more paranoid about women ‘using feminism as a shield to get away with being slutz’ than they are about the manipulation and abuse that goes into making women so concerned about proving that they aren’t ‘slutz’- and the consequences of that manipulation and abuse.

      • Lula says:

        She hasn’t said it’s the definition of feminism, but it’s the only one she’s spoken about. My feeling is this is less about any sort of strawman and more just the sort of capitalist, individualistic feminism that’s sold to women as consumers, so that buying a tank top somehow becomes an act of resistance. Look, Emily is young, I don’t know too much about her educational background but am assuming she hasn’t gone beyond high school. (Not that formal education is the only way to gain knowledge-it just seems to be where most people stumble on new ideas). I’m sure she gets frustrated at times that she is viewed as vapid and shallow, someone who’s only worth comes from her body. She wants to be seen as both sexy and intelligent, but doesn’t yet get that the endless prattling about her boobs (literally all I’ve ever her heard talk about is her boobs) doesn’t exactly pique anyone’s interest about what’s going on in her brain.

      • BorderMollie says:

        That’s more my issue with her too. She’s beautiful but so vapid, so revolved around this surface level consumerism. Even Kim of all people has taken up a few social causes. Emily does nothing but pose with little on as far as I can tell. She takes no risk, I’d speculate because she doesn’t want to lost her ‘hot, cool girl’ status by having a strong opinion. Her right, absolutely, but if she wants to be taken seriously she should use her mega platform for something else every now and then.

  9. Babs says:

    She seems stupid, and that husband of hers repells me. That shirt is lame beyond words.

    • Susie Two says:

      Newsflash, she IS vapid and superficial, and I think that’s all she is. That’s why she talks about it all the time, because there’s nothing else inside of her head.

      • Still_Sarah says:

        “I think Kim Kardashian is actually an incredible feminist”.

        And I think you’re actually incredibly stupid, Emily. How come no one wants to interview me? She sounds like a shallow person trying to sound deep but failing miserably.

      • otaku fairy says:

        @Still-Sarah: Agreed. That’s my only real problem with what she said here. Kim Kardashian has made it clear that she doesn’t even identify as a feminist, so it IS dumb to call her a great one- even though I kind of suspect that Emily said that for shock value and extra publicity.
        Even if Kim did identify as a feminist, I wouldn’t look at her as a great example of one. Not for any reasons that have to do with female sexual immodesty- it’s other things that she’s said and done.

  10. Swack says:

    There is so much more to feminism than the ability to make a sex tape or taking off your clothes and posting pictures/videos of it. That is a very shallow definition of feminism.

    • jwoolman says:

      Well, Kim Kardashian actually is a feminist by the dictionary definition (and all else is just added agenda, actually, no matter how important it might be to individuals).

      I’ve never heard Kim say or do anything indicating she doesn’t believe in equal rights and equal opportunities for women. Her own options are rather narrow for many reasons, but that’s a different problem. She doesn’t seem to believe that women can’t do things because they are women.

      I think her husband might be more problematic in that area, but I could be wrong. He’s hard to figure out, especially when he’s manic.

  11. Lluv says:

    I can’t take anything she says seriously.

  12. Nancy says:

    She is her #1 fan. Tyra Banks taught us on ANTM that the closest thing to the camera will appear the largest. Emily, it’s not your brain, or even your beloved boobs, it’s your big huge clown feet….lol

  13. JeanGray says:

    Girl, bye!

  14. perplexed says:

    I don’t know….sometimes she sounds a little conceited. jThere’s no denying she’s pretty but there’s no denying a lot of women are just as pretty as she is (and have other things going for them as well).

    • lightpurple says:

      A little?

      • perplexed says:

        I guess I didn’t want to appear too combative.

        It’s almost beginning to feel like feminism as an issue is an excuse for her to brag about her prettiness. That’s the vibe I’m starting to get.

        I don’t think she understands that anyone who talks about their looks this much starts to sound annoying after awhile, even when the topic of feminism isn’t involved.

    • Veronica says:

      She is the definition of humble bragging. She’s every traditionally attractive person you’ve met who thinks beauty is a substitute for personality and education. Plenty of beautiful people out there have constructive things to contribute. She is not one of them.

    • Nancy says:

      I agree she is in complete admiration of herself. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and I don’t find her attractive at all. She somewhat resembles Kim before she had her nose done one or two times. Kim with original nose and those that followed actually is attractive. But this chick seems to need her ego stroked. It’s been my experience when someone tells you how smart they are, they stupid as eff……i.e. Emily

  15. Rapunzel says:

    A real Feminist would be fighting for the woman at Walgreens who was denied her post miscarriage medication because some religious m*therf*cker morally objected. Not playing “Won’t somebody please think of the poor persecuted reality star?” over Kim K.

    • otaku fairy says:

      SMH. As if we can’t do more than one thing- fight for reproductive rights, be fucking LIVID about Xtians who think their extreme patriarchal religious opinions trump women’s bodily autonomy and safety, AND take a zero tolerance approach to slut-shaming, whorephobia, and victim-blaming. Dude, do you not realize that all of those things would fall under Sex Positive Feminism? Women don’t have to silently condone one form of misogyny or abuse in order to be against another. You’re kind of proving her points with that sad, “A REAL feminist would do this instead of that” argument.

      • OriginalLala says:

        @otaku fairy, I think Rapunzel means more that talking about being pretty/sexy and a feminist (as if it’s somehow groundbreaking) is basically all Emily talks about, which is to say, her feminism is pretty shallow and vapid…which we are allowed to critique. Loads of women somehow manage to be sexy, pretty feminists who show skin and who also do more than just talk about how sexy and pretty they are. That’s all.

      • Rapunzel says:

        I stand by my statement. I’m very aware of that feminist can do multiple things at a time, but that’s not the point here. The point is that Kim K is a rich, privileged woman who does not need any sort of feminist protection. It is a waste of time to fight for her. She doesn’t need it. Kim K successfully turned a sex tape into an empire. Nobody needs to argue for her rights. She has more than most.

      • otaku fairy says:

        Fighting against the rampant whorephobia, victim-blaming, and slut-shaming in society is not a waste of time- even if it occasionally means having to defend someone like Kim K. It’s not about Kim K herself- it’s about not giving misogyny a pass.

      • Bea(trice) says:

        Kim K posing nude or using her body to promote herself doesn’t bother me at all. It’s her (and her sisters) vapidness and appropriation of African American culture that bothers me. I’m glad she met with Trump about Alice Marie Johnson, but she’s so disingenuous that I wonder if there was an angle to that. I think it’s the fact that like it or not the Kardashians have become a huge influence on American culture and young girls, which is why so many people call them out. So I do agree it’s such a waste of time for Emily to cape for her specifically. Generalities about women’s bodies and sexuality would be a better argument.

      • Apalapa says:

        @otaku fairy, I normally agree with your points on feminism and very much appreciate your pov but I think the better ways by activists to fight whorephobia, victim blaming, and slut-shaming are to fight against FOSTA, dight against the closing of backpage and craiglist as avenues for sex workers, fight for passage of workplace protections for sex workers, and highlight and support the work of Tarana Burke for assault and rape victims of #metoo, especially women of color. I hold men to the same standard if they are gonna claim allyship to women.

        Emily saying “i can dress how I want” is fine. But what she is doing – making money while dressing however she wants – is a privilege not afforded to poorer women, women of color, women in bodies considered less desirable like fat or disabled ones.

        I see Kim kardashian profiting off of cultural appropriation of black culture but not speaking out against racism. I see Kim wanting accolades for getting a black woman released from prison but not speaking out against prison reform because the release of someone via kim feeds her ego and brand and speaking about racism and prison redorm does not.

        Again, I feel the same way about men who don’t use their privilege to speak against injustices they see if they are going to call themselves alles.

      • Tiffany :) says:

        otaku fairy, I greatly respect your opinion and I always look forward to hearing your thoughts.

        I do think we can do more than one thing at a time, but it is disappointing that Emily doesn’t seem to do that. In every interview, she brings “feminism” back to a very narrow focus on herself and KK. There’s so much more to feminism. Her navel-gazing on this issue is similar to Lena Dunham. She doesn’t address bigger issues that affect more women because her comments are so focused on herself. Slut shaming is a serious issue, but I don’t see Emily putting her passion to good use. She could take steps to address the inequalities in school dress codes, for example. Her advocacy falls short because there is so little action. I think it wouldn’t cause so much backlash if she didn’t seem to boast about her supposed advocacy.

      • Lula says:

        Not every act a woman does is a feminist act-and context matters. The women getting behind the wheel in Saudi Arabia right now? Absolutely feminist. Me driving to yoga class? Not so much. And obviously I am aware that my statements are a matter of opinion-but they are opinions I am prepared to back with with facts. Young, beautiful women are absolutely rewarded by the entertainment industry for showing their bodies, and so I don’t think upholding the status quo is a feminist act. Could it be a feminist act for Emily personally? Sure, if she was raised in a repressive culture and was taught that her body was sinful, ect. But again, context matters, and also what is empowering for someone personally isn’t necessarily empowering for women as a whole. Young, think, beautiful women can be seen naked everywhere. Women everywhere have gotten the message about who should be seen and who shouldn’t show their bodies. What would be empowering for women everywhere would be someone sending the message that you don’t have to be young, white, thin, able-bodied, ect. to be sexy.

    • Apalapa says:

      @otaku fairy oh sorry I juat saw you said we are allowed to critique emily’s feminism as shallow and vapid. Also, sorry for the typos. But I do feel strongly about sex worker rights clearly, and how someone like emily reaps the benefits without understanding that the fight against slut shaming, whorephobia, etc started wayyyyy before her and consists of a lot more than what Emily has brought to the table.

      Everything is trash and it’s fine.

  16. Tiffany says:

    Oh, they still married?

    That’s all I got.

  17. HK9 says:

    If Kim Kardashian is her idea of a great feminist, she needs to be much more ambitious with that definition.

  18. Valerie says:

    I don’t care what anyone does with their face, but she overdid it on the lip filler. Stoooppp

  19. Pedro45 says:

    Oh, honey. I too used to love my boobs and my tiny waist and my beautiful skin and then I turned 40. Middle age is going to be rough for her.

  20. grabbyhands says:

    Oh jaysus, can she just be banned already? The last thing we need is Dead Eyes trumpeting on ad nauseum about the same tired shiz. Who keeps trying to make this trick happen?

    Kim Kardashian is an amazing feminist? Well, that is just about what I’d expect to hear from this empty head. She really wants to get on that family payroll, doesn’t she?

  21. Grant says:

    What exactly is her claim to fame? Being in rapey Robin Thicke music video and having a blink-and-you’ll-miss-it role in Gone Girl?

  22. Naddie says:

    She reminds of those dolls you press the belly and they say sentences. After a while you memorize it all.
    But… I honestly think her questioners aren’t really creative with their questions either.

  23. Mo' Comments Mo' Problems says:

    How or why is she still relevant and giving interviews!? She really does talk about the same things…

  24. detritus says:

    I like both Kim and Emily well enough , but Emily needs to look up the terms patriarchal bargain and patriarchal dividends.

    “The patriarchal bargain is “a tactic where a woman in a misogynistic culture reinforces the notion of men’s superiority in order to get ahead, or sometimes just to survive”. It is “a decision to accept gender roles that disadvantage women in exchange for whatever power one can wrest from the system, without changing the system itself.”

    https://shoutoutjmu.com/2015/02/16/kim-kardashian-the-patriarchal-bargain/

    • otaku fairy says:

      “The patriarchal bargain is “a tactic where a woman in a misogynistic culture reinforces the notion of men’s superiority in order to get ahead, or sometimes just to survive”. It is “a decision to accept gender roles that disadvantage women in exchange for whatever power one can wrest from the system, without changing the system itself.”

      Couldn’t that be said about everyday Western women who have been successfully manipulated into feeling like they need to prove that they aren’t ‘sluts’ & ‘whores’, and who have been successfully been manipulated into joining in on the scapegoating and dehumanization of sexually immodest women?

      • detritus says:

        Hmm it’s too bad you didn’t brother to read the article or engage with any of the critical feminist discourse that surrounds this and instead dismiss it whole cloth. I expect more of you OF. You know my typical stance on this, I wouldn’t be promoting some form of regressive agenda, but women can make misogynistic choices, not all female choice is feminist.

        I’d say that’s a bit of a false shield for both Kim and Emily as the monetize their sexuality and their success is due to that monetizing if traditional gender norms. This isn’t sexuality for the sake of sexuality. Which is fine if you aren’t claiming a feminist label for yourself.

        As a feminist you also have the responsibility to not promote patriarchal ideals that diminish other women.

        By working within the system, and reaping those benefits, instead of putting any effort towards dismantling, you are contributing to current patriarchal standards.

        There is a point where your choices are supporting norms that suppress choice and hurt other women. With larger platforms comes greater responsibility and labelling yourself feminist means you should be aspiring to dismantle a system, not just allow women the right to claim feminism while performing patriarchal standards to their benefit.

      • JeanGray says:

        THIS! 100%

      • Lula says:

        I would also argue that this isn’t actual sexuality-it’s the performance and the commoditization of sexuality. I don’t know that I would argue that Emily’s decision to capitalize on her looks is hurting other women. And if she were to say, run for office later on and be shamed for her past public nudity and not taken seriously I would absolutely support her in that fight-provided a) she gave reason to take her seriously, and b) she was actually being shamed for her nudity, which, like, she’s always talking about this shaming, but who is actually shaming her here?

      • perplexed says:

        “but who is actually shaming her here?”

        That’s what I’d like to know! It seems like she’s doing her thing in her own bubble, and most of us don’t care (I think).

        I get that she has to prove that she’s smart, but I think that’s something all of us have to prove, even when we’re not as pretty as her. I think it’s rare for someone to be assumed to be smart at face value without pointing out their credentials.

  25. Christina S. says:

    Comments like this is why we see toddlers and tiaras. We continue to push girls to be worth nothing but looks and we’ll continue to deminish every young girls self esteem. What do you say to women who aren’t as attractive? Tough luck you fail as a woman? Smh. People like this are venom to feminism.

  26. Mumbles says:

    I really can’t imagine magazine editors sitting around thinking, you know what our readership wants? An interview with that dead-eyed woman from “Blurred Lines” and those small parts in “Gone Girl” and “I Feel Pretty.”

    This is an example of a very hungry PR team making a client into a thing by working with tabloids and creating a false impression that she’s someone people are interested in.

  27. Neelyo says:

    She needs to meet more feminists.

  28. girl_ninja says:

    I still don’t understand her claim to fame. She just seems to try too hard to seem intelligent and interesting.

  29. me says:

    I find it funny that she believes Kim Kardashian “doesn’t care” what people think. YES SHE DOES. She didn’t get all that work done on her body for nothing ! Kim is obsessed with the tabloids and what they say about her…her image and brand is everything to her.

    • Gabs says:

      Kim K cares about what people think more than anything else in the world. Good or bad publicity is what she lives for.

      • still_sarah says:

        It took me a while to understand it but the Kardashian-Jenners live for any kind of publicity even if it makes them look like stupid tramps or whatever. Good or bad doesn’t matter as long as they get their names out there. It took me a while to understand that they were excited about a magazine headline that said they couldn’t hold onto their men or that they were all being cheated on or had all run home to mother. So weird.

    • jwoolman says:

      I doubt that the target audience for Kim or Emily’s nude pictures is not focused primarily on heterosexual/bisexual men. They are aiming mainly to sexually arouse men. There is nothing wrong with that, but I’m surprised that Emily seems so unaware that this is what she is doing.

  30. Agenbiter says:

    Kim has gone back to posting selfies after swearing off them because she doesn’t care what people think. Or maybe the opposite – because she sees Iggy A outdoing her in contorted naked feministing?

  31. Mabs A'Mabbin says:

    If she truly cares about anything but herself, she’d be talking about anything other than herself. And celebrities sticking up for celebrities doesn’t qualify. She’s a cotton ball (lightweight and full of air). Only a cotton ball is more useful.

  32. perplexed says:

    If she didn’t make money off her body, I wonder if she’d hold the same viewpoints.

  33. HeyThere! says:

    Who even is this person? Lol Seriously, I have zero idea who this person is.

  34. TrixC says:

    Why is she banging on about accepting her body as though it’s an achievement? She has a perfect body, I’m sure that’s not difficult to accept. And sure, post bikini or naked pics if you want to but that’s literally all she does and all she talks about.

  35. Sophia's Side Eye says:

    “When a woman is comfortable with her sexuality and doesn’t need validation from men”

    Hahahahahaha!

    That’s literally why she has a career because she can’t act.

  36. Veronica says:

    Oh my God, Emily, shut the f*ck up ready. We get it. You have nice tits and you like to talk about them. Cool. Not remotely relevant to pressing issues of feminism, particularly for minority women. Bottom of the list of things I give a shit about considering the Supreme Court just ruled it acceptable for fake abortion clinics to lie by omission to the women they lure in, immigrants getting raped, arrested, and killed, the UN just listed the US as one of the ten most dangerous countries for women, and a woman who needed a miscarriage drug to rid her body of a dead fetus in Arizona got legally turned down BY THE PHARMACIST, forcing her to risk waiting longer to get the care she desperately needed. And that is the shit that just went down this week.

    I have had it up to here with shallow white women thinking that progressiveness is limited to the best ways to survive under patriarchy. Open a goddamn book and educate yourself as to the seriousness of the situation around you. We can talk about female divisiveness and judgement with more intense scrutiny when we address the socioeconomic pillars upholding the system in the first goddamn place.

  37. Pandy says:

    Sure if your definition of feminist is paid to take your clothes off. Yawn.

  38. Nayru says:

    Her immodesty or sexuality do not offend me. I just find her boring, stupid, and not that attractive. She certainly does have a lovely set of breasts though.

  39. Harryg says:

    Kim said she doesn’t like selfies anymore, but since she’s been torturing me with them for the last ten years, I will send ten of her own selfies back to her, hourly. That’s my new job, to make her irritated and exhausted by her own selfies.
    (Please someone invent boomerang app, where annoying photos and selfies just ping back to the sender immediately.)

  40. Shijel says:

    What an idiot. I bet she’s well-meaning, but… ah.. hm.

  41. Fifi says:

    No, just no to this annoying blow up doll. You embody the patriarchy. You relied on it to become famous. You do exactly as you’ve been brainwashed to do.
    Stop using feminism to defend objectifying yourself. I support sex workers and sex positivity but this isn’t it. She is everything a woman is expected to be in society. Young, dumb, a “cool girl” and hot. And she’s an idiot who does nothing but talk about her body with the shield of feminism. ehhh…. efff off. It’s offensive and backwards to women who have been progressive. I feel like we’re going backwards with women who think like her.

    I’m sorry but showing me your perfect body that society demands from women is not empowering to me. Empowering for Emily in particular would be if she spoke about something other than her body. Showed the world some of her imperfections, used her brain, made a positive difference somehow. ANYTHING but just using her “perfect” body by societies standards to get by in life. Yes, you have the choice to do what you want – yes that’s feminism but you still embody and NEEDED the patriarchy to get where you are today. NOW challenge it. Have some damn talent, have something to say. Maybe even talk about men’s attitudes towards women – sexual harassment that has happened to you. How we can better ourselves. ANYTHING other than how good looking you are. God I’m tired of this girl. You don’t need to be progressive but DO NOT tell me you are progressive when you aren’t. You aren’t helping women move forward, you are telling young girls that if they look like you and run around as jizz objects- they too can be millionaires! In the name of feminism! you are rubbing it in our faces that the patriarchy is alive and real because the ONLY reason why you’re on the cover of that magazine is because of your youth and tits.

    Women are more than their looks. We still have value after our 30th birthdays. See if society cares about you after you’re 35. They won’t. Because women like you keep perpetuating this ‘disposable hot girl cycle’. Congratulations, you just screwed up “future you” in 10 years. And encouraged a bunch of girls to follow your footsteps and replace you.

  42. Kylimayrow says:

    Can they stop trying to make this chick still happen. I have seen her in that one movie and she was ok. Haven’t seen her in anything else, next…

  43. jenn says:

    I don’t have enough emotional bandwidth to be annoyed by Ratajkowski. Her statements are just… whatever.

    But on a certain level I’m SORRY she keeps bringing this stuff up, because obviously she feels abandoned by her allies. (But not by feminism itself! Good for her!)

    We waste time by stepping on her message (which is technically correct—women are allowed to be pretty and to profit from that). Yes, she has a superficial, herself-centric interpretation of feminism. Yes, it is ugh.

    Honestly, though, the interview and reactions here remind me of the time I was working at a magazine, in the editorial division, and I once shared a car with a sad drunk girl from our PR department after a Christmas party. She was shouting at me about why she felt hurt by men (and also “cool girl” women), and it 100% changed me. I wasn’t a “feminist” until then—I had been a “cool girl,” a smart woman who didn’t have “female friends”—but I changed, because her crappy journey toward obtaining coworkers’ respect was hard, like mine. They were constantly monitoring the length of her skirt, judging her romantic partners, and belittling her like a dummy. It wasn’t so different from what I had experienced at work, and… it changed me, is all. I became a feminist because of women like her. Not because of women like me.

    I am a bookish, nebbish feminist, and I do identify with a lot of funny, smart feminist celebrities. But it makes me CRINGE when the celebrities that I love and identify with, comment derisively on other women—especially YOUNG women who haven’t had the chance to switch from Cool Girl Patriarchy to Feminism yet, who choose to dress and act provocatively. (I’m thinking here, specifically, of Rashida Jones’s reaction to Miley Cyrus, who incidentally ALSO performed with Robin Thicke. Listen, the bad person here is Robin Thicke. He sucks.)

    Yes, Kim Kardashian is an excellent businesswoman. She capitalized on a literal invasion of privacy to achieve notoriety. I can see why Ratajkowski loves her: Kim spun gold out of a maybe-nonconsensually-taped sex tape. (Isn’t that super interesting? I wonder what Ratajkowski is trying to say about her star-making turn in the music video “Blurred Lines.”)

    I HATE, literally HATE, Kim Kardashian’s mother and step-parent, and I do worry about the emotional wellness of her husband… but I will never EVER come for KK. According to blind items, she was violently assaulted when she was robbed in Paris, and this contributed to her longstanding agoraphobia.

    Speaking of Paris, Paris Hilton treated Kim, her then-“stylist,” like actual trash, for being half-Armenian—a nation that btw was genocided, and whose large L.A. population is constantly treated like trash also.

    I AGREE that feminism is about healthcare, equal pay, civil rights. I do. But you don’t have to *like* Ratajkowski to support her. That’s all I’m saying. Sometimes feminism is as simple as people like Ratajkowski not getting picked-on by HR for her thong showing (a thing I once defended a coworker for).

    Someday her ideology will deepen and become more sophisticated. I do believe that. At least, I hope so. I just… I wanted to offer ONE COMMENT here in her defense, because I feel it’s needed.

  44. Matrioshka says:

    Third wave feminism is a patriarchal psyop. The 80s antifeminist backlash never ended, it just got re-branded as feminism.

    • Jenn says:

      Shoot this is so true. 🙁 Very succinct and apt break down! Somehow all we can do is apologize and qualify every woman-centered issue and concern.

  45. SM says:

    The question I have is why is she still showing her boobs and recycling the same thought in her head again? Does she have anything to promote? I know her only from interviews she gives that are covered here…

  46. Clairej says:

    She has to be on the Kardashian payroll. They get her interviews as long as she flatters them!