Is it inappropriate to discuss Prince Philip’s wandering eye at this point?


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What are the rules for gossiping about someone’s past actions when that someone has one foot in the funeral pyre? I’m not asking that to be nasty at all, I really don’t know the rule. Like, former president George HW Bush deserved to be called out and held to some kind of account for repeatedly assaulting multiple women, even though his health is failing and he’s been in a wheelchair for years. But what if a dude is in failing health and he has a history of fooling around with consenting adults? This is my question.

For those people who think The Crown is 100% real, it might come as a surprise that Prince Philip has always been a well-known cheater. He’s had multiple affairs, multiple mistresses, multiple hookups throughout his marriage to Queen Elizabeth. The affairs were barely hidden – everyone knew about them, but most of them happened when the British press wouldn’t or couldn’t write about them. When the British media’s relationship with the royal family shifted in the 1980s and 1990s, lots of skeletons fell out and of course Philip’s wandering eye was written about back then. It just seems to me that we don’t have to dredge up all of that sh-t – sh-t that royalists and royal-watchers have known for decades – right now, when Philip’s health is struggling. But that’s what Lady Colin Campbell is doing. From Dan Wooten’s column in The Sun:

Lady Colin Campbell is preparing to rock the Royal Family yet again with bombshell allegations about the Queen’s marriage. I can reveal the royal author turned I’m A Celebrity contestant has booked a press conference for Thursday, June 28, where she intends to reveal for the first time the contents of her bombshell new book in front of the world’s Press. Speculation is mounting that The Queen’s Marriage will include new cheating claims about PRINCE PHILIP, especially surrounding his close friendship with LADY PENELOPE BRABOURNE, the new COUNTESS MOUNTBATTEN.

Lady C has long been the scourge of the royal establishment, with her 1992 biography on PRINCESS DIANA, Diana In Private, revealing for the first time just how unhappy she was in her marriage to PRINCE CHARLES. Lady C was dismissed as a fantasist but her revelations about Di’s bulimia and affair with JAMES HEWITT turned out to be true. Now questions are being asked, given the age of the Duke of Edinburgh, who turned 97 this month, whether the publication of this book is appropriate.

In an exclusive interview, she says of the press conference: “I’m absolutely dreading it. Writing the truth has so far proven to be a very discomforting experience, and I only hope that our society has progressed to the stage where one can finally speak the truth without being lambasted. I always just write the truth and let the chips fall where they may. And all of historical characters, their private lives impact their public lives as well, and it is fair game for examination.”

Lady C insists she is fond of both Prince Philip and the Queen and denies the book will sensationalise any cheating claims. She says: “The way they have made their marriage work as a partnership for the good, not only of this country, but of the Commonwealth and some would say of the world. I focus very much on the realities of their lives and what the realities are all about. Of course, one also has to examine rumours and deal with speculation but I’m very fortunate in that I know people very close to them. You know, friends of mine for nearly 50 years are very close friends of various of the participants, so I know exactly what has really gone on.”

[From The Sun]

While some of the names of Philip’s old mistresses might be new (to me, at least), I have to ask: who didn’t already know that Philip was a giant cheater for years? The young ones, I guess, the ones who weren’t around for the shift in how the British royal family was treated in the media. And I do agree with Lady Colin about one thing: the larger story is about Elizabeth and Philip’s marriage, how they had ups and downs and rough patches and they still sort of adore each other. They’ve always been 100% committed to the monarchy. Philip just wasn’t always completely committed to Elizabeth.

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Queen Elizabeth II, accompanied by Prince Philip, arrives at King’s Lynn train station

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  1. Emmet says:

    Lady Colin is always a trip!!

    Rumors were that Phil had a secret daughter who looks just like Anne.
    Wonder if that is going to be mentioned.

  2. homeslice says:

    I don’t like that guy, but I feel for TQ. She must have insides of steel to have dealt with all she has in her lifetime.

    • perplexed says:

      For all the perks she has, her ability to remain stoic in the face of every critical thing said about her does amaze me.

      Who knows what she’s like behind closed doors, but her mental equilibrium in public over several decades where media is all over you does fascinate me.

    • Enough Already says:

      Lol it’s easy to be stoic when you truly, actually believe God himself chose you to rule the peasants.

      • SlightlyAnonny says:

        This has always fascinated me. I 10000% do not believe in the divine right of kings, Lilibet is a broad who got lucky, as are most kings and queens but don’t they kinda have to believe in the divine right to do the job well? Not that the Crown is gospel but that scene when Liz reads the letter from her grandmother always gave me chills, like you got to be all in to do this job. I think Charles is, I think William is not, he likes the wealth but not the responsibility and doesn’t buy it yet. It’s interesting (to me at least).

      • Skylark says:

        It’s also easy to remain stoic when you’ve lived your entire life in the outrageous lap of taxpayer luxury and never had to worry about paying a bill. Philip’s tom-catting around is a very small price to pay for that.

      • perplexed says:

        The other members of the royal family have broken down and spilled all their beans and what troubles them despite living in the same luxury. Since the rest of them couldn’t do it, I do think her stoicism and dignity is unusual. Yeah, it’s a price to pay, but that doesn’t mean most people are strong enough to handle that price.

        Maybe some of her stoicism comes from being born in a different generation though. Had she been born today, I don’t know if she’d be “built” the same way.

      • Addie says:

        I’d call it canny rather than stoic. Why can’t the truth be told, regardless of age? I don’t judge either of them for having affairs – their business, their choice – but don’t have the audacity to present their family and themselves as superior standard bearers of morals and good family values. That’s straight-up hypocrisy and thoroughly self-serving.

      • perplexed says:

        I think the truth can be told by others — they are historical figures.

        But I don’t think it’s necessary for them to tell us everything they’re thinking. That would be weird, given her position as head of state. And I think we’d also look at her and her husband strangely if they decided to confess everything.

        When I talk about her stoicism, I don’t mean simply in relation to affairs etc. She has to hear criticisms about anything and everything, even about things she really has no control over, and yet she has had the self-control in a way to not trying to correct every single assumption about her. She just carries on. Over time, different truths get “corrected” and told, but she has to wait it out with patience, and many people, including people in her own family. don’t have that patience. Although I can also understand why she needs to take a gin at noon — that kind of self-control to not explain your thought process to the world at large probably needs to be managed through alcohol.

      • Skwinkee says:

        I really don’t think she thinks that since it’s an absolute fluke she ended up on the throne, but she does believe in her duty above all else.

      • Elizabeth says:

        I think it’s probably even harder to be stoic when every time you go out in front of thousands of people you have the thought in your head that this just might be the time that some crazy guy got a gun past the police, or that one of the guys in the fly-over secretly supports ISIL and is going to deliberately crash his plane into the Palace and take out every single member of your family, or someone is going to park a truck bomb on the tracks on front of your train and blow you up, or that your bare-handed grandson will shake hands with someone wearing a poison ring, or your great-grandson will be kidnapped from his school…

  3. GreenMeanie says:

    Why dredge all of this up now? $$$ of course. Refuse to buy. Times were different back then.

    Not an excuse – just reality. Unless you want to doom the monarchy, which will be lucky to survive after and if Charles assumes the Kingdom.

    • Skylark says:

      Oh come on. Of all the things that will doom the monarchy, Philip’s well and widely known history of putting it about is not even on the list.

    • Masamf says:

      I wouldn’t buy the book for $6 but would buy if I found it at a $ store. But again, unless it has something really juicy, a 97yr old Phillip’s infidelities don’t impression me much. Like, when did all this happen, in the 80s? I don’t care one way or another. Now if she has more in there other than HM and PoE marriage? I’m game.

  4. Pandora says:

    I wonder how many times the poor Queen had to be treated for STI’s he brought home.
    I can’t imagine having to bear that while the World watches on.

    • Red Snapper says:

      Philip belonged to a group called The Tuesday Club. It was a lunch thing every other Tue. A Gentleman’s meeting, if you will. But really it was a twice monthly bacchanal. Drugs, whores, ‘aristocrat’ men getting shit faced drunk and doing terrible stuff. Men like Philip are why women need the Me Too movement. Sure, he respects his wife, but there were plenty others he treated like meat. Fuck his dignity. Let’s bring out all the dirty laundry and see how it looks today.

      • ChillyWilly says:

        Yeah I agree. I always felt that Phillip married Liz for financial comfort. He’s not a nice man.

      • KiddV says:

        That’s the stuff I would like to know about. I don’t care if he did drugs, got shit-faced, etc, I do care if he forced himself on female staffers. I can see him thinking they are there to serve him in ALL ways.

        ChillyWilly – He married her thinking he would one day be King. I don’t think he was too happy being “just a” Prince.

      • Enough Already says:

        To be fair Phil didn’t care about money or titles. He didn’t even want to marry Liz but she was obsessed with him and was determined to have him. That and his uncle Louis Mountbatten’s greed for power doomed Phil. He just wanted booze, babes and boats. A debauched aristo Naval officer’s life is what he longed for, not corgies, curtseys and ribbon cutting. He was quite frugal and he did grow fond of Liz so there’s that?

      • Meggles says:

        Christ that’s the definition of privilege. Drinking and whoring on a Tuesday lunchtime.

      • morrigan01 says:

        @Enough Already is right. From all I’ve read and watch about Philip in docs and such, he really just wanted to be a Naval Officer and live that life. He actually blew hot and cold over marrying Elizabeth. SHE wanted HIM more than HE wanted HER.

        It all basically came down to Lord Louis Mountbatten wanting the rank and power his family got stripped of when the Saxe-Coburg-Gotha’s changed their name to Windsor and stripped the family of all German ties during WWI. The Mountbattens were actually the Battenbergs, but the branch in England also had to change their name to be more English, and more or less lost their royal titles in the process when they did so. Lord Louis Mountbatten was more or less obsessed with getting those titles and status back. Phillip marrying Liz was one of those ways he set out to do it, hoping the House of Windsor would be changed to the House of Mountbatten. He was angry when it wasn’t, hence the whole drama about Liz and Philips kids being considered bastards because they didn’t have their father’s last name drama that happened, and the compromise of Mountbatten-Windsor happening instead.

        Lord Mountbatten also tried to hook Charles up with his granddaughter, and Charles did ask her to marry him, but she said no.

      • Tigerlily says:

        Morrigan you may be onto something with the Mountbatten bit. However the Battenbergs were such a minor ‘royal’ family, created from a morganatic marriage. No lands, castles etc. Baffling that Lord Louis thought they were such a big deal.

      • PrincessK says:

        EnoughAlready has summed it up nicely.

      • Aurelia says:

        It was the Thursday Club. Philip is a man whore on the level of sex addict David Beckham. Lolz. That honestly made me snigger.

        Dickie Mountbatten had to point out to Phil that he didn’t have a dollar to his name. And Liz was the best gig in town. It was either her or another euro princess or duchess willing to take him on.

  5. Maria says:

    I’d take Lady Colin Campbell’s account with a grain of salt. She wrote the book “the Royals” back in the nineties which was full of falsehoods. Fact is no one can prove Phillip’s infidelities. There have been consistent rumours about him and Penny Brabourne and his cousin, Princess Alexandra, but they are still only rumours. I do believe he and the Queen have a strong partnership, and genuinely like each other. And face it, they have weathered the ups and downs for 70 years. Pretty good.

  6. Mia4s says:

    To be honest after the past year of celebrity revelations, as long as the transgressions were consensual…I just don’t care. That’s the Queen’s (and the family’s) business.

    Already so many gross celebrities’ names have fallen off the front page (James Franco, Dustin Hoffman, Morgan Freeman). I’m more concerned about outing predators and abusers. If that wasn’t the case with Philip, then this just feels like a ridiculous distraction.

  7. SJhere says:

    I’d rather take a good nap vs. read this crapola book.
    If TQ can put up with him all these years I say I’ve got my own troubles and I don’t care about PP.

  8. Peanutbuttr says:

    Aristocrats and Royals having extramarital affairs. Nothing to see here.

  9. perplexed says:

    If all of this is common knowledge, it might not be that off to talk about it. We talk about everyone else’s affairs — I guess I don’t see why Prince Philip would be any different. The only reason we might not discuss it is because we admire the Queen’s sense of duty.

    It is kind of interesting how Elizabeth and Phillip have suddenly become a source of fascination for the public and all because of a tv show. I can’t remember people actually caring about the state of the Queen’s marriage when I was a kid.

    • Addie says:

      People would be wise not to confuse a heavily edited pro-royal drama with a documentary. But why shouldn’t this be written about? The press is under considerable pressure these days simply praise the BRF, regardless of various truths ranging from adultery, laziness, under-age debauchery through to greed (lack of financial transparency of publicly-provided lifestyle, dodgy investments eg Paradise Papers). Yet the Windsor’s are held up as the saviours of a nation, a picture-perfect family who are presented as the model to aspire to. All a lie, and why should not lies be exposed so that people can learn the truth? If they still wish to demean themselves by grovelling to this family, okay, but do it with full knowledge.

      • formerly known as Amy says:

        The press has it’s own agenda. They were just forced to apologize and pay a fine to MM for that article about her naked pics being used in Kate’s paris case. Low key slut shaming. The press are liars and like to focus on the RF to divert from the fact that the UK is a monarchy by tax dodging media barons. The truth is RF isn’t as powerful as the press barons who no one will dare write about.

  10. Enough Already says:

    Where there’s smoke there’s penicillin.

  11. taxi says:

    QE had to put up with a lot but she probably wasn’t the easiest person to live with either. Her rigidity during earlier years about the fam’s activities & chosen romances has sure loosened up, thankfully
    .
    Margaret would have been much better off marrying Townsend – they might not have lasted but at least she wouldn’t have had the lingering bitterness which affected her future. Young Camilla was well-known as a partier & insufficiently “pure” to be acceptable for the PoW’s wife.

  12. LittlefishMom says:

    There is no reason to do this. He’s an elderly, ailing man. The Queen has been through it all. This is a classless thing to do. Leave it be. My gosh let the man live his last years without this.

  13. CurrentUI says:

    I’m not surprised, must haveat least write the book when the subject is still alive to defend himself

  14. homeslice says:

    I see Fergie is back! I guess PP being retired and all, it’s safe for her to come out…lol.

  15. KiddV says:

    I wouldn’t be surprised if the Queen had a little something on the side, too.

  16. Erin says:

    Eh, a book was bound to happen and if she’d waited till he died there would have been “he’s not here to defend himself” screaming from all corners. Might as well do it now.

  17. Johannam says:

    Are we going to talk about him being racist as well?

    I feel like we are on a royalty forgiveness tour unless you are named William or Kate.

  18. E says:

    I’ll wait for LAK and Sixer’s intel on this one…..

  19. PlayItAgain says:

    I don’t think anyone will be shocked by any revelations in the book. Philip is a shining example of that generation of strong, dedicated, but entitled men who felt they could do anything they wanted and were almost expected to sleep with whomever they wanted. So they did, because there were rarely any consequences for poor behavior. They never had to deal with cell phone cameras and the internet and a more transparent society.

  20. Speak Life says:

    Steve Harvey said on his show that a man can have sex with other women and still love his wife, and he should know since he is on his third marriage, lol. I guess men get bored with monotony and so do many women too. To each their own.

    I could totally be married to Tom Hiddleston (Loki) and want one night with Chris Evans (Capt America), lol, or vise versa.

  21. Muprhy says:

    I don’t think we should be comparing the situation to George H.W. Bush b/c unless told otherwise these extramarital relationships were consensual. Consensual relationships, even if they are extramarital, are not as deserving of scrutiny.

    Especially in the case of the British upper class of their day where it wasn’t necessarily forbidden to have an affair as long as there were enough healthy legitimate heirs and everyone towed the line. The Queen was raised in this environment so she may not have had a problem with it as long as he didn’t embarrass her (which he may have done in certain instances). This book would only serve to embarrass her in this way and that’s why it shouldn’t be written in her lifetime, or preferably at all since it’s part of the small sliver of private life that she has. She’s given her entire life-I think she deserves for Lady C to give her this privacy.

  22. magnoliarose says:

    I don’t know much about him and I am not all that curious either. I wonder if anyone cares that much at this stage? Hasn’t it just been an accepted thing? It is like someone writing an exposé declaring the sky is blue. Without some truly juicy tidbits, it seems pointless.

  23. Cerys says:

    There have been stories about Phillip for years so the book is not likely to contain anything new. He got away with it because the press were “encouraged” not to print Royal scandal. I believe the Queen’s parents were against the marriage because they didn’t think he would be faithful.
    He and the queen have clearly come to some sort of amicable arrangement like many aristocratic couples.

  24. KylieMS says:

    Yes, Phillip was a racist, womanizer who was reportedly a very cold father with a temper to boot. In all honesty though, once she married him QEII was stuck. This a woman who felt that she was sent to the throne by God, or divine right, or whatever the notion is. Divorce wasn’t an option for the leader of the Church of England, not in those days at least. Being in her position, did she really have any choice but to grin and bear it?

  25. Flying Fish says:

    I am sure the Queen was aware of Philip’s extracurricular activities, but she was in that marriage for life.

    • Chaine says:

      This. There are plenty of women of earlier eras that just accepted infidelity as their lot and carried on. Rose Kennedy comes to mind.

    • A says:

      More than that, I think the Queen didn’t care so long as he didn’t stray from the duty he had to their family and the crown. I know people like to drag The Crown for being part fantasy and stuff, but honestly, they got that part right. The Crown is the job. He’s been loyal to that and defended that as was expected of him. If it were me, I would say that’s earned me enough je ne sais quois to not have to give a f*ck abt what a washed up, ex-aristocrat had to say about the subject.

  26. Jessica says:

    I don’t like Prince Philip and I don’t care.

  27. MeghanNotMarkle says:

    If they were consensual relationships then *shrug*. It was (and unfortunately, kind of still is, according to some “advice” given to Kate to just smile through the affairs) pretty much expected that he would cheat. Funny enough, I just watched a documentary on Phillip last night and the line is that Lord Mountbatten engineered the meeting and marriage, “steering” Phillip into the House of Windsor to make it the House of Mountbatten. Obviously, he didn’t get what he wanted but he got enough. This line is repeated in Charles being pushed to “those nice Spencer girls” by the Queen Mum and ending up with Diana. Both men loved their wives in their own way but neither really wanted in to begin with.

    I dunno and I’ll never claim to know better than anyone else. But if he wasn’t raping or groping anyone against their will then I’m inclined to let it go. I’m far more concerned with the ingrained racism in the BRF. Maybe there’s been a shift in beliefs and attitudes within the family. That’s the best case scenario.

    • A says:

      No offence to Philip, but honestly…what were his prospects at the time lol? He was practically an orphan, with an absent father, a mother who had suffered an unfortunate breakdown and was in no position to look after him, no country to speak of, and an impoverished royal family that had been given the boot more than once in that century alone.

      The man married up in *every* conceivable way that he could have, and he has his uncle Mountbatten to thank for that. I don’t doubt that he doesn’t love his wife and his family. He does, in his own particular way. But he lucked out in the marriage department. Who would he have married otherwise?

  28. TheOtherSam says:

    I wonder if one of the stories Lady C will dredge up is the one about Philip and Sarah Ferguson’s mother. Supposedly one of his affairs was with a young Susan Wright Ferguson, then married to his polo manager Ronald Ferguson.

    Of course years later her daughter married his son – the prior relationship with her mom allegedly fuels his ongoing discomfort with Fergie these many years later.

    • Natalia says:

      Well that’s interesting, I didn’t know all that before. I still think it’s mostly Fergie’s temperament and personality that Prince Philip doesn’t like (which I most definitely do even though she’s looked the other way throughout Andrew’s own serious faults and indiscretions). I can’t see Prince Philip giving a damn about one of his many indiscretions. That old entitlement issue.

  29. A says:

    I don’t think she’s wrong, but Lady Colin Campbell makes a living off of stirring sh!t and being an attention wh0re lol. She’s never in it for the “truth” she’s in it for the $$$$ and the eyeballs. She was quiet for a while after she bought that castle, but I guess it’s either not making her much of a profit or she’s in some kind of financial hole, which explains why she’s suddenly back in the news again. And she’s never “objective” like she says, she’s sly, and the stuff she writes is filled with backhanded compliments and a barely repressed sense of glee about other peoples’ misfortunes.

    Anyway, my guess is that her “bombshell news” is some reheated leftover rendition of the affair Prince Philip had with Princess Alexandra or whatever. And it’s like, the man is 97. I wouldn’t be surprised if he doesn’t give a f*ck anymore.

  30. Svea says:

    Sadly I think it was all passive aggressive payback to HM because she had the career and the power. A common story.

  31. Helen Smith says:

    There are rumors about the royals and pedophilia. That’s what I want to hear. Are they true or not?

  32. Siiiigh says:

    Why should we respect a man who has absolutely zero honor or respect for others? He’s a cheating, racist, rude piece of garbage. I have no respect for the dead who had no respect for the living. He treats his wife like shit, treated his son like shit, and his attitude represents perfectly why his family was exiled from Greece. They are a hateful, selfish, arrogant group of inbred animals who actually believed that God ordained them to be better than others, which means they can do nothing wrong. Liz is a nice lady, and I have really very little negative to say about her, but damn does she have shit taste in men. Every time I look at them together I just think, “Oh, honey.”

    • KiddV says:

      She seems happier now that he’s retired and not hanging around.

      • PrincessK says:

        Oh yes, I think the Queen has been given a new lease of life now she doesn’t have him tagging along after her. She is looking younger and brighter. I am quite sure he was embarrassing her and getting on her nerves. I feel that she is much more in control of what she does and who she has around her, and doesn’t need to run it by him now he has been retired to Wood Farm. Even though they have always led separate existences within Buckingham Palace. I think the whole RF know how difficult he can be.

        I have seen so many elderly ladies get fed up with their old doddery husbands who seem to ‘lose it’ before they do.

  33. perplexed says:

    I think it can be discussed because they’re historical figures. For some reason, I don’t think he cares what we think anyway. So, yeah, discuss.

  34. AtlLady says:

    Didn’t Philip row after the royal yacht when he was courting Elizabeth? What woman isn’t attracted to a manly man? Maybe she allowed him to remain a manly man in his own mind by “dipping the quill in different ink pots” to compensate for him having to appear subservient in public. Elizabeth has the stiffest backbone of any person on the planet and all of us would have been taken down a notch having to spend 70 years walking two steps behind.

  35. Em says:

    Lilli , couldn’t care less about his philandering, she came from a family where it was the normal way of life. Heir and a spare and then get on with your own groove. After all she did say that she knows Philip ‘needs a lot of entertaining’ and yes that’s exactly what she meant. What she does mind is it being public gossip.

  36. Pajala says:

    I’m clearly a lot older than most readers because I’m amazed that most don’t know the story of the Earl of Porchester. Sorry, but Andrew does not have those too-close-together eyes and hawk nose of his three siblings. Google the Earl of Porchester, a close confidante of the Queen. That’s who Andrew looks like – and why he was always the Queen’s favorite.

  37. Mia C says:

    97. Good Lord these two have lived forever. Does he just deflower the virgins or drink their blood of youth too?

  38. Mary says:

    The whole idea of a “royal” family, is predicated on bloodlines and some sort of divine intervention or predetermination. Of course, they are “racist.” I, as an American, do not recognize royalty, and it is an odd fascination, that the British people still adhere to this archaic institution.

  39. OneLumpOrTwo says:

    I think I’d rather wait until the old guy kicks the bucket. The juxtaposition of this crotchety old man and the words affairs and lovers is too much for me.