A curious story dropped early Saturday morning on TMZ. According to their sources… Angelina Jolie’s lawyer, Laura Wasser, is divorcing Jolie. As in, Wasser is quitting Angelina and the Jolie-Pitt divorce case. What’s very curious about this is the sourcing. It’s no shock or surprise that Laura Wasser would or could leak something to TMZ – many of her clients leak to TMZ, and I suspect Wasser has done and will continue to do some leaking to TMZ as well. But note the sourcing in this piece… this comes from “one source connected to Brad.” Why is Brad Pitt leaking to TMZ about his wife’s lawyer?
Angelina Jolie is fighting Brad Pitt so hard and nasty in their divorce and child custody dispute, her lawyer is quitting her … sources tell TMZ. Sources familiar with the matter say Angelina has been out for blood. As one source connected to Brad tells us, they believe she wants to kill any relationship he has with his kids. We’re told there has been a lot of screaming on Angie’s part … as one source said, “She’s fueled with anger and has gotten ridiculously unreasonable.”
Our sources say her lawyer, Laura Wasser, is going to quit and made that known to her, because it’s gotten too venomous. It seems like this was not a good match, because Wasser has made a name for herself in divorce circles by promoting settlements and co-parenting.
We’re told Angelina has hired another law firm to take over when Wasser officially leaves, but for now the divorce is nowhere near settling … it’s more like all-out war.
Before we get to the carefully worded denial – and there is a denial – let’s just analyze and parse what just happened. TMZ seems to have gotten this information from Brad’s side, that much is clear. I suspect that Brad’s lawyers are in contact with Wasser quite regularly. I suspect that this is Brad’s lawyer’s take on this situation, that Wasser’s default is that divorcing parents should put aside their differences and figure out a way to be civil to each other, and Angelina Jolie still don’t give a sh-t about making peace. She still wants full custody. She still refuses to allow Brad to dictate terms in their divorce. Now, here’s the carefully worded denial:
Angelina Jolie‘s ongoing divorce with Brad Pitt is “entering a new phase,” a source says — and her lawyer, Laura Wasser, will be there by the actress’ side. Despite a TMZ report that high-powered Hollywood divorce attorney Wasser is quitting over internal conflicts with Jolie, a spokesperson for the Oscar winner and mother of six tells PEOPLE the two are still working together.
“I’ve spoken directly to Laura,” said Jolie’s spokesperson, Mindy Nyby. “The TMZ story is not true. She’s not quitting now or in the future.”
A source close to the situation tells PEOPLE that “the characterization of problems between Laura and Angie is not true.”
TMZ reported that the 43-year-old actress was hiring another law firm, something the source confirms but says is not to replace Wasser. “Someone is misinterpreting bringing in the experts, which is common at this point in the case,” says the insider. “It’s entering a new phase.”
Jolie has “tried to bridge the gap between the kids and their dad,” the source tells PEOPLE. “She’s worked to achieve reinstatement for them. But it’s now between Brad, his kids, and the court. The court will determine things.”
Wasser isn’t quitting, but Angelina is hiring another law firm to work alongside Wasser. My guess, as someone who never stepped foot inside a law school or a family court, is that Jolie will still employ Wasser for the divorce aspect, but that Jolie is bringing in lawyers who specialize in brutal custody battles. That’s my take: Jolie wants a “war-time consigliere,” someone who will “go to the mattresses” for her, to extend The Godfather references.
But this is interesting too, right? “The characterization of problems between Laura and Angie is not true.” It’s not “there are no problems between Wasser and Jolie,” it’s that Brad’s lawyer knew that there were issues between Wasser and Jolie, but Team Pitt completely mischaracterized those issues. Dear Laura Wasser: stop playing nice. This is what Brad Pitt and his lawyers are doing, they’re leaking to TMZ about you and your client.
Photos courtesy of WENN.
All these kids are going to turn 18, or at least old enough to decide for themselves, before these two ever sort this out.
I feel as if Angie has been divorcing Brad for long than she and Billy Bob Thornton were married!
@Chaine
Give it one more year, and still married Brad and Angie will have been divorcing longer than he was married to Jennifer Aniston.
Why do you think it isn’t true? Because her people denied it?
I can’t believe how ugly and drawn out this divorce is though.
If Brad was a decent human being and cared for his children, he wouldn’t continue to smear their mother.
Well I’ve always thought he’s an insensitive jerk who treated his first wife very shabbily. I don’t base a woman’s worth on whether or not she’s a mother. I’ve no doubt he’s no angel in this one too.
Time to stop playing nice Angelina and fight fire with fire.
Brad is such a pathetic excuse for a man that he knows Angelina loves the children and will never expose him in the public eye.
But there is only so much a woman can take and Angelina should nail his a**.
Destroy Brad and take down TMZ while you are at it Angelina.
The most telling sentence in Angelina’s statement is that she has done everything to make sure the chlisten has a good relationship with their father. The rest is now up to the children, Brad & the court. Pretty much confirms that the children still dont want to spend time with their their and are in fact being forced to by the court. Not alone but always supervised – pretty much says everythbig doesn’t it?
A judge has said the kids are in no danger from their father and not having a relationship with him is a detriment to them. The judge all but accused Angie of parental alienation and only people viewing the details through the rosiest of glasses could consider that ruling to say anything else. If Angie is bringing in “experts” to continue to fight for sole custody, she’s doing it in disregard to what the judge presiding over the case seems to think is best for them. You gotta wonder why.
According to main legal experts, the judge didn’t accuse Angelina of anything. That that is pretty standard wording during custody cases.
More importantly the same judge ordered that the children had to see a therapist before, during and after each session with their father. Brad is also not allowed to see his children unsupervised, care to explain that?
You gotta asked too why after more than a year, the judge ruled brad as “safe” and he did not accused Jolie, he gave her notice, just to notify. I believe TMZ is sensationalizing again and again.
The judge in this case warned Angelina that attempts to keep the children from their father—monitoring their texts, calls, preventing them from seeing him, badmouthing—would result in Brad getting full custody. That is NOT something judges go on the record to say routinely.
That is not standard wording in normal custody cases. It’s standard in cases where one side is trying to alienate the children from the other.
Except the judge didn’t say half of that. There was nothing about bad mouthing him, preventing them from seeing him or keeping them from him. I believe his actual words were” if the minor children remain closed down to their father and depending on the circumstances ..” if we’re being precise that is. All that doesn’t explain why he still doesn’t have custody almost 2 years on. And why the court seems to be willing to keep him under strict conditions still where he’s not allowed to be alone with his kids. If it’s all unreasonable alienating Angelina that is. And yes why only 2 kids made it to L.A. and what changes were made to the order and why?
@dietcokehead
I wish Angelina’s detractors would stop trying to smear her in favor of her abusive alcoholic ex. There’s a reason why she’s been the primary custodial parent for the last two years and change. There’s also a reason why he still has only supervised visits. So if he was only deemed ‘safe’ because of that – it doesn’t really count. Either way, her moving practically next door to him belies your bitter. She never said she didn’t want Brad to have joint custody – my guess is that hinges on his sobriety. To me it seems Brad did a half azzed version of homebound AA, and even that he tried to ditch mid way through which is typical of addicts.
That said, you regurgitating the judges standard language to make it seem like Angelina was being a nosey ninny version of Maleficent is a lie on its face. How is Angelina supposed to provide Brad with the kids phone numbers (the judge said the you get kids didn’t have phones and claimed Brad didn’t have their phone numbers) and yet you and other detractors want to claim she’s monitoring texts and listening in on phone calls. How can she be doing that on calls Brad and the kids aren’t having?
You can’t have it both ways.
If you read the leaked document completely it is clear Angie wanted the terms set by the court, in fact it was Angie who instigated the terms. The judge was not warning Angie, he only gave instructions BOTH parties had to follow. Angie has always tried to reunite Brad and their children. If anyone has been nonchalant about reuniting with his children, it has been Brad. As usual Brad has left all the hard lifting to Angie.
Guys, the Judge was very clear in his instructions to Angie and was very specific about her not calling the kids more than once a day while they were with Brad. She was also not to listen in on their phone calls with Brad. And to whoever keeps saying that the kids had to speak to someone before and after being with Brad, that was only at the beginning to make sure the kids were adjusting to spending alone time with Brad. That condition/period of adjustment was to gradually decrease and end altogether by the time the kids were with Brad for an entire week in Los Angeles.
For some reason, people are stuck on the supervision thing when the supervised visits were only to be at the beginning of the segue from their mother’s sole care to spending more than a day with their father since the kids hadn’t spent any alone time with Brad for quite sometime. It also sounded to me that Angie may have been changing the kids’ cell numbers so she could control Brad’s contact with them. There had to be some reason why the Judge mentioned that in the statement.
I’m not smearing Angie, it just seems that the Judge thought she was being overly vigilant and it was not necessary. That attitude could possibly influence the kids and make them feel unsafe with Brad, which seemed to be the Judge’s concern as well. I thought it telling that the Judge had to actually put in the statement that Brad was safe to be around.
@Pam_L
I don’t mind repeating myself: the judge was very specific because he says the same thing to most people shring custody for the first time over an extended period.
You seem too anxious to make the judges standard remarks to parents sharing summer custody (which were EDITED when leaked by Brad’s camp) into some kind of censor of. Angelina’s past behavior. You have zero evidence to support that.
In fact, it shows you didn’t read the text as the judge says: Angelina must provide or give Brad the children’s phone numbers (those kids who have cell phones).
How is Angelina listening in on calls the kids are not even having with Brad?
Oh oops- spoke too soon! I see you must have read my post pointing out this contradiction from the Angelina detractors, because I read further into your post Pam,
and now you have unhinged Angelina bizarrely tossing phones and changing the kids numbers on Brad to keep them from talking to him.
You needed the leak of the judge’s remarks to make sense so you come up with Angie juggling 6 cellphones and changing the numbers. Which makes his remark about giving Brad their numbers make sense to you. So Angelina was being a nosey ninny, listening in, hovering and then she’d hang up, and cancel the kids phone numbers.
You really think Angelina Jolie was doing that?
OK lady lol
I bet you think Hillary murders people too. Lol
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Cleo2, I’m not anxious at all nor am I the one insulting other commenters. When you become that involved in someone else’s life to the point of insulting others because they don’t agree with your point of view then it’s time to to take a deep breath and step back a pace. Tomorrow or the next day, come back to this thread and read what I wrote in my comment and what you wrote in yours. If you still don’t see a difference then it’s your world, good luck and the best to you.
People are misreading. The “most telling thing” is NOT Angie’s statement. The statement by Angie’s rep is only 3 sentences. All the rest is tabloid filler.
The following is Angie’s rep’s statement:
“I’ve spoken directly to Laura,” said Jolie’s spokesperson, Mindy Nyby. “The TMZ story is not true. She’s not quitting now or in the future.”
Nothing more.
I’m kind of curious as to where Wasser’s denial on this is. Nowhere, right?
Also note the “not quitting now or in the future”. That could also mean, if one bothers to parse that statement, that Jolie FIRED Wasser as her lawyer. Ergo, she will not be quitting now or any time in the future.
We know that Wasser regularly uses TMZ to leak things. Wasser’s approach seems to be negotiation and not litigation. If Jolie wants to take this to court and her lawyer was completely against that happening, she may have chosen to replace her lawyer with someone more willing to litigate. This may well have been a PR move on the part of Wasser to spin being off the case in a way that makes it appear that it was her choice rather than Jolie’s.
Litigation however, means that there will be mud slinging from both parties. And that will be publicly available. Neither of them will walk away from that unharmed and more importantly, every dirty little secret that the kids should never know will be out there.
In the end, none of them will win. Especially not the kids.
It’s not unheard of in many areas of the law to get what is called trial counsel but still have another lawyer and law firm still control the overall course of the litigation and direct the shots from above. Trial counsel would focus on what needs to be done for trial and prep the specific issues in dispute.
“Sometimes, when I try to understand a person’s motives, I play a little game. I assume the worst. What’s the worst reason they could possibly have for saying what they say, or doing what they do? Then I ask myself, ‘how well does that reason explain what they say and what they do?” – Littlefinger GOT
Haha, at first I thought you were quoting Miss Marple!
Hmmm! Interesting
Jolie has “tried to bridge the gap between the kids and their dad,” the source tells PEOPLE. “She’s worked to achieve reinstatement for them. But it’s now between Brad, his kids, and the court. The court will determine things.”
Seems this tidbit is whats being overlooked in combination about the things entering a new phase for him and the kids. Sounds like everything is in the courts hands now.
That was just the most perfect thing Angie’s rep could have said.
I agree Sash.
Angie, very tactfully and diplomatically brought it back to what everyone wants to forget: Brad Pitt damaged his kids because he was an irresponsible drunk parent who lost control.
There may be several good reasons why they still need to hash out or delay his joint custody- main one being, perhaps the responsible custodial parent and other professionals/experts, want to insure it doesn’t happen again, and it seems Pitt has given them reasons to believe that it could. He may have stopped his own therapy, balked at therapy all along (there’s evidence of this) or been drunk/high again. Perhaps several times. Who knows?
Taking a movie with QT who gleefully and publicly spilled how he and Brad got severely lit and toasted the last time they worked together (Angie and the kids were on location with him, and he had two twin babies/toddlers and two under 6 at home) seemed to be a big middle finger to AJ.
I don’t believe for one second that Angelina has been truly trying to foster a relationship between the kids and Brad, as much as I don’t believe they got divorced just because of the one incident on the plane.
it might just be my own personal bias, because my parents divorced when I was 7 and my dad was an alcoholic, but as much as I love my mother she was truly terrible at keeping her emotions in check and not sharing things with us kids. I don’t disagree that Brad had a drinking problem and probably behave poorly, but I don’t think Angelina has done much better since. Not that she’s abusive, but she has certainly smeared their dad as well
So the man commits the crime and yet the woman is equally to blame because she didn’t hide her pain?
Wow and people still wonder why the world is still ruled by men and women are treated horribly.
Wow, way to be dramatic. No, but if the goal is to actually have the kids have a relationship with their father, hearing how awful he is and how much he hurt their mom is not going to accomplish that goal. So yes, it’s incumbent on both parents to shut up about the other parent and carry on. I think they’ve both behaved poorly in that aspect.
also, what crime? He was cleared of everything by Protective Services. Is his crime being an alcoholic? Because I thought addiction is a disease and we need to be kind to people trying to get sober.
She’s basing her issues with her mother on someone else she doesn’t know.
Cleared doesn’t mean innocent and since he cannot see them without supervision after 18 months, then he did something horrible.
ALISSA
No a single tabloids or sources of Angie said what you are saying here, is actually the opposite with his team feeding the tabloids of how awful she is and how much she hurt him.
(No, but if the goal is to actually have the kids have a relationship with their father, hearing how awful he is and how much he hurt their mom)
I don’t believe that he wants the custody of the children. His main problem is his image. He does appear, as Ben Affleck, Charlie Sheen and other stars, to be a narcissistic, immature and egoist. The kids are getting older. Maybe it wasn’t brought on by their mother that the kids were starting to notice his bad behavior? At some point these immature men have to grow up for the wellbeing of their children and be honest with their selves first of all. If they cannot manage to stop drinking etc, and be real fathers, it is time to forget their ego and their image, give the full custody to the mothers and to allow the Kids to live in peace .
“So the man commits the crime and yet the woman is equally to blame because she didn’t hide her pain?
Wow and people still wonder why the world is still ruled by men and women are treated horribly.”
Shame that same standard wasn’t applied to the wife in his first divorce, isn’t it?
Oh… the irony…
Maya, yes that is what cleared means–not guilty. The F.B.I. also said they didn’t see any evidence of wrong doing after their investigation.
@Alissa Angelina hasn’t made any public comments about his behavior and neither has anyone else from her team so I’m confused. What bashing has she done? Maybe I’m wrong but it sounds like you’re projecting your own experience onto this situation.
Isn’t everyone projecting, though. No one knows what happened…not Maya, not Alissa..not me, not you. Someone keeps leaking to TMZ. That’s pretty obvious who it is. I don’t like how Angie has been portrayed in this divorce by most celebrity sites. But that being said, she’s not Miss innocent either. Unless Brad is a danger or very neglectful to his kids, I don’t understand why she’s fighting for full custody. Maybe there’s something I’m missing.
…Have we all forgotten what happened when this whole thing started? She hasn’t said anything recently, but there was a ton of leaking on both sides when the announcement first came out. There was a lot of accusations on both sides as well. It got very ugly, and that’s why they agreed to seal the records. That’s what I’m referring to.
Literally the only thing that I’m trying to say is that they’ve both handled this poorly, and continue to handle it poorly. I used my experience as context. I’m not saying he’s an angel or anything.
And I only brought up the crime thing in response to the initial comment because he isn’t guilty of a crime? It just bothers me how quick people are to make assumptions and cast blame on this site. We hear a rumor, and BOOM! They’re totally awful people. Not a single one of us really know what happened in their marriage, on the plane, or with the kids, but Angie is a saint and Brad is the devil. I think that probably both are neither.
@purplehazeforever I never said Angelina was innocent or that Brad is the devil, I said I’m tired of the leaks and the smear campaign. I wish the divorce and custody would be settled privately. As for why she’s fighting for custody so hard, maybe she has legitimate reasons or maybe she’s being spiteful. Does anyone recall her fighting to have him stripped of even visitation with the kids? If not then I don’t see why folks are claiming she’s trying to alienate him from them. It would be great if the kids could have a healthy relationship with both parents and I hope that happens.
@purplehazeforever I’m with you. The comments on the Brad-Angelina stories drive me batty because everyone is a legal expert – particularly CA family law – everyone has insider information that paints Brad in the worst light possible, and so on and so forth.
I think Brad screwed up and probably has a whole host of issues and problems to deal with. I doubt Angelina has handled this situation perfectly or without mistakes.
Its probably like most divorces, where each party is to blame, even if one party is MORE to blame.
I’ve said the same of both Angelina and Brad. Neither has been perfect throughout this ordeal. It makes sense. There is probably a lot of anger and hurt on both sides. This is what happens in a lot of divorces. Remaining civil has to be very difficult and it’s even more emotional when children are involved. It’s just sad to see how all of this has devolved. Someone said above they feel like all the kids will have turned 18 before this divorce finds a conclusion and it’s starting to feel that way.
Becks I agree with you only I’d turn it up a notch. I KNOW Brad screwed up THEN and I KNOW Jolie is screwing up NOW (by way of the public record Order from the Judge admonishing her.) The difference is Brad admitted to and worked to rectify his mistakes. Jolie on the other hand has hired a new law firm to double-down on hers (since Wasser apparently wasn’t willing to go there.)
What I don’t get about Angelina detractors like @Alissa, is how willing they are to believe the responsible custodial parent that Brad didn’t have any issues with at first, is now a raging vindictive b*tch trying to destroy perfect Brad who only messed up one time?
I’m confused as to why it’s so much easier to believe Angelina is demonic and out to destroy her children’s father, than say for example, to just believe the addict in this scenario had a relapse or 17, or. is not being serious about his rehab, therapy and staying sober?
Everything that I’ve read about Angelina belies this notion that she’s out to bury Brad, she’s a good person and a diplomat and seems very pragmatic – to me, she’s being a mama bear which is more than OK given Brad was accused initially of physically and psychologically harming his kids due to his substance abuse. That doesn’t mean she hates Brad, though I’m sure he and his camp aren’t making it easy.
Also. Did I miss something? Where was the announcement from Angelina that she is now, “fighting for full custody.” She’s always stated she wanted their family to heal and to get to a point where they both had joint. It’s why she moved practically next door to Brad.
Maybe ask yourself why they’re not there yet and why Brad still needs supervision with his kids.
This misogyny is why we have Trump. Women are constantly lying in wait for each other even in the face of obvious wrongdoing by men. We want to believe the worst in other women. It’s tribal and primal and makes us feel better. If Angelina is suddenly an awful non humanitarian that means we’re not just do nothings sitting on couches b+tching and lashing out at women we irrationally hate.
👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽Well said!
He’s so famous and had been on the scene for a while, so people have had a lot of time to build him up in their minds as this sensitive, kind actor dude. Actual reality and events clashed with that, because of course the image celebrities project is usually not based on reality, and imo many of his fans can’t deal so are sinking into this denial and blaming someone else.
I’m a fan of Brad, but I think he’s much worse than he lets on and needs quite a few more years of work to get completely healthy, both physically and in his personal relationships.
Personally I think they both have issues and have handled the divorce and related publicity badly.
CLEO2…
Most intelligent comment I have read today!! Thank you, thank you for posting it!! ❤💓
Alissa, I completely agree with this comment and the others you’ve posted.
Thanks for being level-headed and sharing your perspective.
@ Alissa: So you’re saying Angie smears Brad in private while Brad does all his smearing to those tabloids that love him and hate Angie? People refuse to see something is wrong with Brad and this two-year extended custody/visitation. Why is it taking him so long to even achieve what he did? I do agree that everything the courts required him to do he did half-assed and the way he wanted to do and thought, as usual, because he’s Pretty Boy Pitt, everyone would say ok and he’d continue on his merry way. But he didn’t figure on Mama Angie. Never come between a mother and her children. There is hell to pay for that one. I wish Angie would bifurcate this divorce, move on, and yes, let the courts, Brad’s watchers and the children thrash this out.
I think Angie was an enabler of Brad and there was other violence before this plane incident. If you remember the original call to child protective services, it was NOT AJ who called. Someone else on that plane called when they landed. Why didn’t she call? One reason could be because she must have seen stuff like this before and was complicit in her silence, hoping for it to just go away.
Once it got public, AJ got all Momma Bear, but I would bet my mortgage that these incidents happened before and she tried to normalize them and smooth things over.
You’re saying it took the potential public knowledge of violence for her to go mama bear? That’s not a mama bear, and that’s not Angelina, IMO. No way she ever put up with violence. I just don’t believe that only the threat of it going public made her take action.
None of this is in the best interest of the kids. The kids are in therapy so let them figure out how to deal with parents. Parental alienation alwways backfire at some point. BP needs to understand he set this crap in motion and if he’s a recovering addict,he can have a healthy relationship with his kids. Continuing the PR battle and leaks does not convey true regards for kids.
I agree, this is the least ‘conscious uncoupling’ to come out of Hollywood in a long time. From an outsider’s perspective it seems like they are both at fault, Brad for these stupid leaks but also Angelina who (if that judge was correct) is trying to prevent the kids from having a reasonable amount of contact with Brad. This is just so damn messy and they BOTH should be able to pull it together for the kids.
The judge never accused her of anything, the problems is his kids don’t want to see him. When the judge used the word you are safe with your father it shows the kids are still scare of him.
@Fa I think it’s funny that it’s okay for you to make assumptions that the kids are still scared of him based on the judge’s wording, but not okay to make assumptions that Angie isn’t being the most forthcoming with the kids based on the judge’s wording.
I agree too – despite what happened in the past, I think NOW both parents need to figure out how to make this work for the sake of the kids.
Yes, they do. This is not what is best for them.
I’m so over the Angelina smear campaign Brad is putting out into the public. He’s trying to make her look bad but he’s the one who looks like the asshole here in my opinion. I wish this situation could be handled privately without all the leaks to the tabloids and TMZ.
His pride and his feelings were hurt when she took the kids and left him. That’s what’s fueling all this. But that’s as far as it goes. I don’t believe for a minute that he wants the kids. He doesn’t want the day to day responsibility of being a parent with everything that entails. He’s just pissed that Angie trashed his image of Hollywood’s best dad. She hurt him so he’s going to hurt her back. It’s all about revenge.
My understanding is that Wasser specializes in mediation and promotes co-parenting. The People article states there is “considerable tension” between her and Jolie. My guess is that Wasser wants her to agree to shared physical custody in some form and she’s fighting it tooth and nail, hence the tension, to the point where Harvey (tight with Wasser) feels comfortable printing that she’s on the verge of quitting. But two-year-long mediation failed, so now the courts will decide. It makes sense that Jolie would move forward with pro litigators (a different team) at this point. I hope this is settled soon, for the kids’ sakes. It’s insane to me that the parents couldn’t come to a quick and reasonable settlement in order not to put them through all this.
Wasser May be tight with Harvey but Brad is also close friends with him and all of the so called leakes are smearing Angelina and making Brad look like a saint.
So this is all Brad trying to smear Angelina and there is a pattern. Everytime something important if going to happen to the custody, Brad conveniently gets good publicity and Angelina horrible ones. The selective leaks always shows Brad in good light and Angelina as horrible.
So forgive if I don’t think Brad is a decent man and truly cares for his children.
Brad Pitt is close friends with Harvey Levin? Lol this is news to me.
Laura Wasser has had long standing ties to Harvey and has used him to disseminate or leak info when she feels necessary. Many posters here recall the incessant leaks during the Depp-Heard divorce, when she repped Johnny. There was a lot of mud flung at Amber via TMZ, with Wasser and Depp a source for a lot of it.
That said have no idea if Pitt is also close to him. News if true (could be).
@ Maya: Have to agree. Pitt has shown himself to not be a decent, honorable man, especially to his children, during this whole process.
People added the “considerable tension” bit hours later , long after the initial article and it was no where in the initial article. Mindy denied the story , people had direct quotes from the Jolie Camp . So who added the considerable tension bit hours later and why? Not Angelina or Wasser is my guess. Despite it being L.A., Wasser is still a professional and there’s no way she’s leaking non positive stories about her relationship with her client that make her look unprofessional. She’s still Angelina’s lawyer ( what ever difference in opinion they may or may not have about how to proceed) But then again perhaps L.A. is so different that lawyers there don’t care about basic standards & ethics . And while we know Wasser has links to Harvey, I’m not sure why people are acting like she’s the only lawyer in L.A. with links to him and Spiegel doesn’t. Tmz hasn’t had any leaks about this divorce since 2016 from Angelina’s camp, while they haven’t shied away from writing really nasty stories about her.
Like Kaiser said it seems obvious to me that Pitts team got word of changes or additions, and decided to run to tmz with their crazy, nasty, angry , screaming , bitter unreasonable evil alineator Jolie angle – really loud obvious gross misogynistic language with a very specific aim btw. Knowing exactly how well that would play and people would run with the intended narrative . It’s always interesting to me that even when Pitt clearly leaks court orders, and is called out for it by Angelina in an official statement , or leaks to tmz who clearly state “Pitt sources” some on here either find a way to defend him, blame both sides or blame the woman- this time Wasser. It’s just never him. We wouldn’t even know how ugly things truly were if he didn’t keep leaking/ giving hourly updates through sources to page 6 about London, actual court documents and now to tmz amongst others. We would all just be guessing and doing the usual projecting with very few facts, based on who we like.
It doesn’t matter how “clearly” stated anything is. Anonymous “sources” are BS. Your comment is a good example why this BS gets published : you buy into the BS. And then you concoct an entire story around it. SMH.
Once again, the June 6, 2018, court order was not “leaked”. Perhaps, and I say perhaps because none of us knows, it was intended to be filed under seal but initially wasn’t. CNN got it from the court itself. There is no evidence it was “leaked.”
Wasser is one of the lawyers Harvey Levin made into a household name, so I find it hard to believe this would publish without her OK.
It is sad that these two are in a never-ending War of the Roses-style divorce – never saw that coming. Although I guess because their relationship started so dramatically, it could only end that way.
Sure Talie, makes this all about how Pitt is Michael Douglas and Angelina is Kathleen Turner, and about ‘how they started so dramatically,’ (I don’t think it was dramatic at all, unless you mean Brad’s ex crying to Oprah and doing tell alls- but that was her, not Brad and Angie).
When it should be about an irresponsible parent with substance abuse problems that damaged his kids.
Oh and I did see it coming, especially when Brad was falling off motorbikes, getting stoned with Tarantino while his wife was caring for two babies, and admitting he was high when his kid was choking on an ice cube.
So, you can make it about ‘their relationship being war of the roses’ and hou can pretend it’s a run of the mill ‘I hate you’ split – but the facts say one parent was an addict and the other parent was a mama bear keeping her brood safe and healthy. Doesn’t mean they never loved each other and the last 13 years were a lie.
Though I realize there are tons of still bitter ladies that wish they could cancel and delete the fact they ever were in love and happy.
Which is way bizarre to me.
@Cleo2 Angie spent the entire time they were together telling the world what a wonderful father Pitt was. So either that was a lie or it wasn’t. He may have developed an addiction, which he seems to have overcome (at least for now). He didn’t undergo a personality transplant and permanently turn into a whole different person.
The reality of the situation is that in California, her chances of getting sole custody are zero. It’s not going to happen no matter how much she might wish that. If he had been the wonderful father she said he was for all of those years, there is no reason to even go there. If he wasn’t the wonderful father she said he was for all of those years, she’s fully capable of lying in her public statements for her own ends.
Either way, it’s a Catch 22 situation that she’s not going to “win”. All she’s going to do is prolong the uncertainty for her kids and that is not a good thing either, because the end result will still be that Pitt will get shared custody.
All I will say in this matter is that Harvey Levin from TMZ has a very good relationship with Wasser. Independent of the source, they would check with Wasser before leaking.
Also, Wasser did not deny anything. Angelina Jolie’s rep did.
She is lawyer you think she would tell what’s going on between her and her client with tabloids.
Exactly – she must be pretty dumb if she did this because she is successful because she has to be discreet. She would never break a client confidence like that because she will lose all of her clients.
I think its very unethical to talk about your client’s case to other people rather than your team.
The fact that there is tension between an attorney and their client would not be considered an attorney-client privilege. The reason for it may be privileged but not the state of the relationship.
Unless she was dropping Angelina as a client and a motion to withdraw was filed, discussing her relationship with her client in any form to the media would be an ethical breach. There is no way Wasser would confirm to TMZ that there is tension.
Or, this is so ugly that Wasser feels being involved in it will hurt her more in the long term. Especially since she has worked to build her reputation as a negotiator who delivers non dramatic outcomes.
Sorry I call bs on this as she represented Johnny Depp and that was a lot more horrible case than this one.
I wondered about that Darla, if maybe Wasser didn’t want to distance herself from the case since it’s likely to get ugly in court. That’s not her jam at all.
Except leaking to tabloids about her relationship with her client would also make her look bad. Last year around February, Page 6 had a very nasty similar hit piece about Angelina and how she was “ruining Wassers rep and costing her clients” along the same vein as this, and this when there was a lull in the public back and forth. It’s all about feeding into narratives and what people want to see and we all know how well evil Angelina sells.
I have no problem believing that there is a genuine difference in opinion between them & how to proceed, based on what we know about how Wasser prefers to do things. Each divorce is different however and has it’s own particular circumstances ( there’s no point pretending this is a run off the mill Hollywood split ) and Wasser is well versed on the issues here. I’m just not buying this version and think it is being mischaracterized. We shall see.
Alex, the leak is from Brad. It says so right in the piece. That’s not in question. The question I was addressing is; is it true?
Angie hired the new firm months now, they even represented her on the hearing along with Wasser other lawyers partners who was signing Angie documents for a year now.
I agree with Maya here. This case has been ugly, but nothing compared to Johnny Depp’s. Laura has been vicious with Brad Pitt in some of the filings, but I don’t think she’s done anything unprofessional.
Her leaks to TMZ about Amber Heard were straight up gross though. If she’s ashamed or worried about anything, it should be her own behavior in that case. Angelina has behaved like most wives/moms would in a divorce/custody battle.
No, the leak isn’t necessarily from Brad. It says that there are sources, ONE of whom is connected to Brad’s team, and then refers to “our sources” again. So, could be from Brad (and probably is.) But not necessarily.
What is the source for the leak from Brad? It’s supposition.
I don’t understand this, from the very start Jolie and her lawyers said they are hoping that the sole custody are temporary and now, Pitt and his team giving the media as to look Jolie as a bad parent. Its very tiresome. There’s already court ruling with no Jolie around. If Jolie is trying to alienate him, why don’t he fight?
Saw a photo from Jolie’s fans in twitter, looks like only 2 kids went for the last week of his custody. I think something did changed since Wasser filed before the last of his custody. Somebody saw it? Its about the leaked custody order
Said it on Saturday and I’ll say it again. Brad is punishing Angie for dumping him after the plane. He’s going to smear her with bad press, regardless of the effects on his kids.
There’s no way a professional like Wasser would leak to TMZ. She would be out of business. This is all Brad. Again.
Exactly. And no one is calling him out on it. This has nothing to do with their children, he’s only mentioning the kids to hit her where it hurts.
Wasser routinely leaked to TMZ about Amber Heard. Remember the story about her hysterics and trying to avoid her deposition? All Wasser.
Right, but Wasser was leaking to harm the opposition not her own client. It would be surprising to see her do so.
Why it has to be Wasser? His publicist can easy smear A through TMZ, as TMZ is with in bed Hollywood men.
I’m not saying Wasser leaked this story to TMZ, I’m saying she’s not above leaking. She wouldn’t be out of business or seen as unprofessional, it’s basically part of her job. Almost all celebrity lawyers leak.
Whatever reputation Wasser had for private negotiations and discretion, she threw out the window for Johnny Depp. I don’t believe the premise of this story – that Jolie is being too unreasonable for the uber professional Wasser.
If Laura did give the okay on the story to TMZ as some are suggesting, she is kidding herself. Jolie has done nothing worse than Johnny.
What Kacy said KB. Wasser wouldn’t leak about her own clients. The opposition is fair game, though.
Yes, Wasser would absolutely leak. Have you ever read an interview with her? Not privileged information but otherwise of course. She is the one with the connections to TMZ. It isn’t that hard to see that.
What I know is Wasser never “spoke to “ Mindy whatshername about Jolie. Attorney-client privilege prevents Wasser from discussing a client. But, the “denial” wants us to believe she did. I don’t get the big deal. People change attorneys every day. Why is that a story? Who cares?
I agree that ‘s no big deal. People do change attorneys all the time.
But as I said upthread, not getting along with your client is not an attorney client privileged matter. Now if you go into why then that COULD be a violation of confidentiality. But there are lots of non-confidential reasons why tension could exist.
I highly doubt the laws in Ontario are different than California and I can tell you that a lawyer going to the media about having issues with their client is a huge ethical breach. You advise opposing counsel only when you are going to file the motion to withdraw as solicitor and never before. You would never discuss this with anyone outside of your firm if it was only “problems”. Not only is it an ethical breach but it would affect your cleitn’s case because then the other side knows there are issues and may take advantage of that.
So much for keeping the divorce proceedings “Private”.These leaks have been M.E.S.S.Y…..
And yet… so boring.
” Jolie is bringing in lawyers who specialize in brutal custody battles..war-time consigliere,” someone who will “go to the mattresses” for her, to extend The Godfather references.”
That’s my take too Kaiser. It seems only 2 kids, Vivienne and Zahara were in L.A. the week of the 21st to the 29th when Pitt was supposed to have 5 as per the order. This after a new S&O was filed Friday July the 20th. Something big seems to have happened in response to the order being leaked. Reading the denial from Mindy, that’s the sense that I got that she’s getting ready for battle- the leak seems to have exacerbated matters IMO. That and the part where she says she’s done all she can, it’s now between Pitt, his kids and the court is interesting.
Why do you say only two were with him in LA? Where are you getting that from?
The order wasn’t leaked, it was public record (as verified by numerous publications), so it doesn’t make sense that there would be any action because of it.
Because we got pictures of only 2 kids arriving on Saturday the 21st, with a nice little write up from a Croatian site- very random. It was Zahara, Vivienne, Darren and their bodyguard and no one else. That’s not conclusive ofcourse, but those are the pics we got & I find it hard to believe that whoever took the pics didn’t wait around to get pics of all the other kids if they were there.
Saturday the 28th Angelina and Knox paid a visit a Museum in London, someone posted a pic of them there and another person took a pic of them at the Cafe having lunch. And we also got sightings on Twitter of Angelina and 3 kids out at a restaurant too. All this after an S&O was filed Friday- that was listed as future filings and proceedings . But we have no details as to contents, because it’s you know sealed like all other documents pertaining to the kids directly have been in this case. I’m done arguing about the sealing, believe what you want as will I.
While none of us know anything for sure because well we don’t live with these people, many of us Angelina fans have been paying close attention to things, and see and hear things that don’t end up on the pages of people magazine or the daily fail etc. We have on occasion with the necessary bias and projecting ofcourse, concluded certain things that have turned out to be correct.
Knox was seen back in London after their plane arrived.
The pics of the kids arriving may have been the tail end of the disembarkment or the photographer may not have been able to take more.
The court docket states what the S&O filed was about:
07/20/2018 Stipulation and Order (Regarding Filing of Sealed Custody and Custody Related Pleadings, and Order Thereon)
It was about sealing of custody related pleadings. Notice it says Pleadings and not Orders. That may mean nothign or it may mean something. LOL!
Maybe Angelina finally has had enough of Brad’s smeared by games and she has decided to fight back.
Or she has done everything she can to amend the children’s relationship with their father and the children still don’t feel comfortable with their father. If the children don’t want to stay with Brad and he is pushing for custody then Angelina might have decided that the children should be heard by the court.
Better yet, Angelina has decided to expose the leakers and she has hired brilliant lawyers to get justice.
Maya I have to agree with you. I believe Angelina. She’s come out every time Pitt has said something against her and her kids with proof. His fans may call you crazy but its because they know you’re paying attention and see right through his pr campaign. He ruined his time with his kids when he leaked all that information.that leak was damaging and dangerous for their kids because it had all the locations they would be at and their Drs names. He’s an idiot and messed up all on his own.
His next lame a– movie is about a father/ son relationship and his own kid doesn’t want anything to do with him. Sad but that’s why he’s letting his team trash Angelina.
Maya, truthfully it’s about time. Enough is enough. And everytime a statement was issued regarding the children, it was never a joint statement. Where is Pitt’s outrage at the leaked custody agreement giving addresses, etc. of the children? Only Angie spoke of how deplorable the leak is.
This is super weird to follow someone else’s childrens’ whereabouts like this.
@Bridget spare me the sanctimony. You’re on a gossip site participating in a discussion about their parents divorce. I didn’t follow the children’s whereabouts , the pictures I mentioned were on a site that we fans were alerted to. And the other ones I mentioned posted on Twitter by fans. And in light of the order,( that was widely discussed here and elsewhere), this was discussed and pondered on. Past that I have zero interest in the children’s whereabouts. I follow Angelina as I am a fan of hers.
Sure, that makes this not weird and creepy at all. Ta da!
@Bridget. +eleventy billion.
I have to admit I am surprised by how closely people follow celebrities. It is fun to gossip and all but I don’t really understand it.
Bridget I agree and I think it is stalkery behavior.
I woke up to this newfound mess on Saturday morning. All I have to say is my God these two fight like this without contact imagine what it was like in that household. This is why Angie said he family needs healing and how light things were when they moved into their new home.
Brad Pitt explained himself in 2017 unapologetic as usual. He was bitter and sad at the same time. He is still mad at her. He talked about his spitefulness and wanting to get justice if he thought he was wronged in GQ. He said this!
He did JA wrong and she was too weak to fight back but Angie isn’t backing down. As she said it’s up the kids and court not her. It’s out of her hands now so why would she fight or leak anything about him?
Something has happened within the week. Remember we get these leaks when he feels wronged or is mad at her about something. It’s become a nasty habit. He has PR team and believe me he knows what they are doing and approves it.
Angelina is simply going about her life and doing her. The only time she speaks is her work with the UN and when something is said that she needs to defend.
To me there was and still is something that has hurt them both and a lot of it happened after the divorce decree was filed. There is A REASON THOSE KIDS DIDN’T FEEL SAFE WITH HIM.
Something happened before, on and after that plane incident. People flock to Brads side and he knows this but the world can love you but if you don’t love yourself and have that peace you need you are living miserably. He doesn’t have his family which I believed he loved his kids and Angelina more than anything ever in his life but something was driving them a part. He explained some of it but we all know it’s more and not that simple.
Angie is stubborn and he is too so here we are two years later.
I still don’t think she was alienating or persuading those kids to not want to be with their father. His lawyers painted that picture as they are doing everything they can for him to get joint custody.
She definitely has been slandered in this whole mess. She knows she had a lion to fight but was fearless and kept her head up. At the end of the day those children know everything and its all that matters.
Not sure if you were a brange fan back in the day but cops were constantly being called to their house. I’m sure you could look it up and see paparazzi always got pix of the cops driving into their gated property. Funny how all of a sudden Pitt fans forget that stuff.
There has been red flags about BPs parenting throughout the years. He admitted he was drinking when Zahara almost choked on an ice cube. That strange fall where he hurt himself where carrying one if the kids and blamed his flip flops if slippers. Plying the kids with cola to get them up and going to continue their hectic travel lifestyle . Him being lazy on the couch while AJ was sorting out the house and kids. This has been said by him in interviews while AJ was always gushing about him. That family was dysfunctional the more children they added with a workaholic father that was putting in half of the work while the mother was pretending the father was something he was not.
Now that it’s a mess AJ is saying her kids are her friends and support and that their lifestyle was never the issue. Sure Jan. BP is being hypocrite and bitter about so many things like not allowing his children to act in their mother’s film. He’s lucky AJ protected his ass for so long but they both lied in their own way and cultivated a family image that was never true. If they were both low-key and not selling a family image relentessly, they wouldn’t be in this mess. The truth of their family dynamics will be revealed one day as they made themselves too interesting and as a couple and parents. And too messy as ex-lovers.
Right. I’m not sure why Pitt fans can’t be as honest as Angie fans. You’re telling it as it is and Angelina isn’t innocent but she’s not the alienating devil they’re trying to make her out to be.
Pitt is an abusive asshole and his fans can’t accept that.
Now Hmm. . . you know, according to the tabs, a couple of times the children “accidentally” hit the panic button and once why they went to the wrong address. They were supposed to go to a neighbor’s house. LOL!
@Artemis (nice seeing your name- it’s been a while) , it’s absolutely on both parents that there’s so much interest in the kids, they made the kids part of their brand. On one hand, I can kinda see the reasoning behind it & can understand why parents would want to share their lives/work with their kids despite the public nature of their lives. I’m not a famous person who has to make that decision so easy for my to judge I guess. And they’re entitled to lead the lives they see fit & if it doesn’t bother them I don’t see why it should bother me, and hey not my kids & their decision ultimately.
I do however think with the way their family was, the way they got together, the interest in her first pregnancy & other factors obviously also played a role in how much interest there has been & it was partly inevitable like you say. But all that could have been mitigated by the parents despite their level of fame. But yes this level of interest is on them, and us who continue to click on such stories. (Including those who call the rest of us insane. Yet their names are peppered all over said stories on a gossip site, while they also project and offer their opinions and biased commentary just like the rest of us)
Angelina does this thing where she feels the need to talk up the men in her life, she did with Voight, when he was clearly a shitty parent. She did it with BBT and she so clearly did it with Pitt. She covered for him too well IMO. She needs to ask herself why she does this & address it so she learns from it . Looking back there were so many clear red signs that things weren’t okay and their relationship toxic and controlling IMO. Some of which you pointed out, and hundreds of other things big and small. Him being drunk in public, her covering for him and pretending he was something he wasn’t etc.
@Alex
The biggest cue that AJ has issues in her relationship by putting her men on a pedestal was when she was talking about how they fight. And then those Australia fight pictures just proved how BP is clearly the aggressor and she’s the little woman. This woman NEVER wore the pants in the relationship. She was a boss with her kids and how she ran her life but BP done effed her up on a personal level. The fans refused to see how sad she looked in the wedding pictures and how weird the vows were that the kids wrote, The parents clearly fought a lot for those children to be so insecure about the relationship and needing a wedding ceremony that bad. The only thing that made her truly happy were those kids and they still do but I don’t believe the problems in their relationship were recent especially considering BP was (is?) an alcoholic. Even at some events he used to stay behind to party and AJ took the kids home. She dialed back her career for the kids and to make a Hollywood relationship work and BP started to work more and more.
JA was 1000% right when she said BP missed an emotional chip but no she was the wronged woman out for revenge said the stans blinded by the new aesthetically pleasing couple. Their looks matched so their life must’ve been perfect. AJ should have ran for the hills stat when she saw how BP smeared his ex-partner in the press. AJ can’t say she wasn’t warned but she wanted more children and BP put on the charm and said all the right things.
You can’t do the whole Hollywood PR selling an image and then doing a 180 when the truth is revealed. I honestly don’t know how either of them are trustworthy because they both bitter and petty now with the lies unmasked. It’s never pretty when the veil is lifted on these typical Hollywood relationships. They told us about their kids’ education, hobbies, feelings and values but they should’ve kept their family life private to avoid this mess and that’s on them, not on the public. I think their anger is also due to them not controlling the image and narrative they shaped with and for each other for a decade. That’s a lot of hard work gone to waste. BP probably resents AJ for not enabling him after the plane incident, thinking she was ‘ride or die’. AJ probably resents BP for not living up to the fantasy she created for him and their future (AJ spoke about seeing herself travelling with him when the kids are out of the house not too long before the separation). The plane incident was the catalyst for all their other issues, their divorce is so acrimonious, it cannot just be the plane incident. They were no longer equals at the end of the day and it was going to end sooner or later, it’s a shame the children were collateral damage so to speak,
+1 nobody knows what goes on inside of any marriage except the 2 people involved.
Aside from being famous, these two aren’t so special. Move on with joint custody and do your bests.
I like the Judge. I liked that he made a fair visiting schedule for the children. 50-50 for each parent. That is the way it should be.
Brad did t have all 5 kids only 2. Which is probably why he was filming the whole week and his nieces were with Zahara and Vivian
Oops that was me. For whatever reason if I’m on here through Twitter that’s my name lol
There was a court order that he was to have all 5 kids that week. Paps only caught two in a few photos they managed to get. You believe paps over a court order?
It makes no sense whatsoever that only Z and Vivian would be there, but not the rest. The children wouldn’t have been allowed to just wake up on the 21st and decide who among them wanted to travel to LA and who didn’t – there was a judge’s order they all were to go. It’s not a whimsical thing. And Angelina would not have been able to obtain some kind of last minute modification allowing only the two young girls to travel, but not the others. Under what legal circumstances would that be allowed?
Well, did you not see that there was a new order filed by Angelina’s lawyer. She’s quitting but at the same time filing paper work that has to do with the leak. Radar online sucks but they are the only ones that reported on it.
And then we get pix of the old fool onset and photos of 2 kids.
Yep and funny how tmz didn’t have any info about whatever Laura w filed right before only 2 kids visited brad when he was supposed to have 5.
Says the longtime Angie basher….
Lol.
Angelina is a very Strong woman. I admire her for her courage and how she puts her children first. Angelina needs to remain strong the truth is on her side.
Quote by William Cullen Bryant: “Truth crushed to earth shall rise again.”
Both are NOT dealing with this gracefully. Both need to chill and let the kids be happy with both their parents. I believe Angelina is doing some sort of parent alienation. I believe that Brad is acting like an ass and making himself the victim and smearing Angelina without cause or proof. Both are acting like children. This is ugly. The whole world is seeing just HOW MUCH issues these two individuals, the mother and father of six children, have. The perfect family narrative they kept pushing throughout more than 10 years is now dust. But whatever happened on the damn plane, whatever happened throughout this partnership, this is really unnecessary. Just help the kids have a healthy relationship with both their parents and stop this utter ugly nonsense! Forget your egos, you are the grown-ups here!
I’m confused. What makes you think Angelina isn’t doing right? She’s not leaking information the way Brad is. She’s not the one who needed supervised visitation. She’s not the one who needs counseling.
I feel like that’s the major issue for people. Y’all thought Angelina was the crazy one and when the system took over it was proven that Brad Pitt is the crazy bad drug and alcohol parent. Y’all wanted Angelina to be exactly what Brad turned out to be.
@ Hmmm Angelina has done all the heavy lifting since 2016. I am glad she is leaving it court.
Crazy bad drug and alcohol parent? I cannot believe some of these comments! Addiction is a disease. Would you say that to a loved one’s face if they were struggling with addiction? Would you want someone to say that to you? It’s quite possible that Brad is an addict and isn’t getting the help he needs and shouldn’t be around their kids until he does. Its also possible that he tried and relapsed. (As did Demi Lovato- would you say the same about her??) It’s also quite possible that Angelina is angry and frustrated that she put time and effort into a relationship that went to sh*t. And that she’s not hiding her feelings about him with their kids so they feel negatively towards him. She wouldn’t be the first nor the last partner to do that. But it’s also possible that none of that’s true!! We don’t know.
Now Addiction is a disease but when y’all were accusing Angie of being a heroin addict it wasn’t.
Besides that abusing kids isn’t a disease it’s a choice that Brad Pitt made. Period.
Jolie was supposed to be the abusive parent. She was the one that was supposed to have government services investigating her behaviour. She was the one that was supposed to have her kids removed from her custody. People gleefully anticipated the Mommy Dearest book!
Brad messed up the narrative. Brad is the abusive, drug and alcohol addicted, neglectful parent that required 2 years of therapy just to have supervised visits with his kids. They didn’t see that coming.
First of all, I never thought Angelina was “the crazy one”, please do not put words in my mouth. I am her fan, not Brad’s. Second, I only said both of them have issues and that is glaringly obvious otherwise this divorce and custody question would be settled years ago. Right now, the one leaking misleading and smearing information is Brad but at first, it was Angelina. I’m talking about the first months after the separation when both camps threw s**t at each other.
Both of these people are not doing right by their children. Angelina too. You can’t say in the media your kids are your best friends, and biggest support and no one has stood by you more. Which she did. No, they are not your friends and your support, they are your children. They have no obligation to take care of you, you have that. I just wish she would realize that but from the looks of it she hasn’t and she won’t. I’m really hoping for the best resolution for all involved.
If Pitt is trying to rebuild the relationship with their children, it serves no purpose in being the obvious culprit in a story that makes Jolie look like the bad guy. It’s already been stated by a judge that his children are distant from him, so making their mother look bad wouldn’t help overcome that at all, even a suspicion of it. Imo, there was no “leak” – I think some idiot bro staffer at TMZ (who traditionally treat women like garbage and run baiting stories all the time) was doing his bit to get clicks for the site on a weekend and guess what, it worked. I’m only surprised that a Jolie rep bothered responding, but maybe People lucked out on getting someone to answer the telephone. But that’s what it sounded like to me, someone called Jolie’s rep, their response was “what?”, they called Wasser to find out what’s up, nothing was up, and all was good. Hence the statement about misinterpreting information. TMZ pulled a classic tabloid maneuver in reporting something outrageous to get readers. They probably even knew they were wrong, and the whole, oops, we made a mistake covers them, but who cares because they got tons of clicks because of it. Yellow “journalism” at its finest.
Regardless, I hope this settles soon, if only for the sake of the children, because there’s no healing while the parents are at war. That said, each child is different and likely would be on their own pace in figuring out how they want to deal with their father, so that it’s taking so long is maybe not that unusual. There are six children, they only get so much time, there may be different things going on at different times.
you’re coming from a point of view that is favorable to Pitt. A view where he’s actually caring about his relationship with his kids. I’ve obviously been paying too much attention to this case lol and I think his number 1 priority is his public image. It’s sad to say he cares more about what the public thinks than his relationship with his kids.so that’s why he leaked it – For the instant omg Angie is evil . Look up how make it right foundation is going. He had some of the residence sign Ndas or he wouldn’t fix what was wrong…He allowed them to build homes with rotten wood. After reading that I don’t doubt that he’s an a -hole worried about image over everything else
Um I’m 26 gonna be 27 later this month and the entire time of being an Angelina fan that’s what I got from people who hate her. She’s a junkie heroin addict. All of a sudden that it’s revealed that brad is an addict now it’s a disease and we have to feel sad for him
I’m sure if other Angie/brangelina fans are reading this they can confirm it.
Maybe…I mean, sure, if his team DID leak it, it wouldn’t be their first dumb move. I’d agree he’s more concerned about his image. But being the obvious culprit in trashing the mother in this little fiasco doesn’t look good for his image either, so we’re back to square one OR, I guess it’s just another bad decision on part of a team that has a pattern of it. So I guess you’re saying he’s only hanging on to seem like he cares? Maybe and there have been fathers known to do that. I’m not a fan of either and it’s pretty clear Pitt is a lousy husband, his kids are distant from him and he’s got work to do to rebuild the relationship through his own failings, so I’m not blaming Jolie here at all. I just think she’s an easy target for sites like TMZ who care more about stirring sh!t up than about reporting the truth and this was such an easy bait, so that was my read of the situation.
As it has been said, no one truly knows all that happened with Brad, Angie and the kids. In the beginning, both handled it not in the best way. He, however, or his team, doesn’t matter, has leaked documents and twisted wording to make Angelina look bad, still to this dare. After they both agreed to lock it down. While all she is doing is trying to protect them. In this latest effort to smear her, she has had to defend herself again, trying to show she is trying to bridge the gap. Although, that responsibility should fall on him, not her.
She has been a good parent, teaching them about the world, having them meet and make friends with people from different cultures from all over the world, and continuing to put them ahead of her and her health issues.
When he should have been bridging his own gap, he’s been out at parties, baseball games, the track, “quietly dating”, etc. He has had two, yes, two years to fix this. He has had to have supervision for many of his visits. Why? Why after a year and a half? That’s a little strange for someone who is supposedly healed and doing well. Those orders were not made by her, before you bash her there too. And, as noted earlier, only 2 went to L.A. Seem to be missing 3 others there.
I don’t know why people get such a kick out of verbally attacking Angelina. You can see her parenting skills. You can see the love in all 6 children’s eyes for her. That cannot be faked.
He clearly does not hold the same level of commitment she does. I personally feel he worries more about his image. Look no further than the facts of the case, and all his PR team’s comments and stories. Every time something is wrong, or something good with Angelina, out comes the same repetitive nonsense. All about image.
Stay tuned. Another firm HAS been hired. In addition to Laura and team. And there is a good reason for it. Time will tell.
@SAJ I enjoyed reading your post. Thank you for the truth!
She makes herself look bad. She hasn’t admitted to any wrongdoing. It takes two to make a relationship sour.
He was the alcoholic so spare us the crab that Angelina had to admit to anything.
He was also the one investigated and still need supervision with his children.
She hasn’t admitted to any wrongdoing because she hasn’t been accused of any wrongdoing. She’s not the one who got drunk and abusive on the plane, he was.
Oh please @Claire, let’s stop sounding like 8Th grade meangirls, OK?
Unless you’ve been under a rock, you know darn well this wasn’t about ‘a relationship souring.’ This wqs about Brad’s disease and his endangering his kids well being because of it.
You sound like Chelsea Handler excusing Brad and blaming Brad’s admitted lifelong alcoholism and substance abuse on Angie and all those kids who drove him to drink.
Let’s be even more misogynistic, shall we? Lol
If the court ordered 5 children to visit Brad, and only two did, it seems to explain this. I am very disappointed if this is what happened. Angelina must be finding this forced parting to be the hardest thing she’d had to do, I empthaize with her.
Whatever said and done, Brad Pitt has behaved reprehensibly throughout this divorce. Everything he’s done with the media and all the stories have been so thoroughly embarrassing. I’ve cringed on more than one occasion on HIS behalf, which is something. He seems so utterly desperate and unable to just stfu for two seconds, which is amazing to me. This is no different.
I don’t agree with the assessment that Angelina is looking for a shark. I think she is struggling with the financial aspects of her divorce, as is Brad, and that Brad is trying to leak personal information that he’s having issues with the children as a cover for the fact that there’s some fishy legal wrangling that’s happening with their financial settlement. He’s whinged about the children for so long, in spite of reports to the contrary, and if my suspicions are correct that he’s using them and creating stories about their relationship as a cover, that makes him even more reprehensible in my opinion.
You don’t hire a separate set of attorneys to dispute custody – it’s really unusual to hire multiple family law attorneys like this, especially considering the breadth of resources available in a practice Wasser’s size. However, if your lawyer is giving you advice that you don’t want to hear, you do. Realistically, Angelina is throwing away a ton of money on this; I cannot even imagine how massive her legal bills must have been when it was just Wasser. Now adding more lawyers? And the only way she’s getting sole custody in California is if he agrees to just walk away. CA puts a huge emphasis on both parents being in children’s lives, and it would appear that he’s taking the steps put forward by the court. Doesn’t matter how many lawyers she brings in, especially since Pitt has the money to fund an arsenal of his own, so she can’t just wait him out until he goes broke.
I read somewhere an attorney Wasser’s calibre will be charging $2,000 or $3,000 an hour. She’s spending at least five figures A MONTH on lawyers if that’s accurate.
Don’t know if that’s her hourly, but consider this: you’re not just paying her hourly rate, but also her paralegal (easily multiple), associate attorney’s, any research – it adds up fast. The bill is going to be in the millions just for Wasser.
Brad also had hired two law firms to represent him. He is throwing ton of money away for this.
Yikes. Some of these comments are really unhinged. This is why family court records should always be sealed and the parties (especially the minor children) should be anonymous.
Agreed. The heated discussions over people you don’t know, using partial facts and PR, is kind of mind blowing.
She is crazy
What a profound comment.