Duchess Kate felt ‘like Meghan had used her to climb the royal ladder’

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One of the reasons why – I believe – the Duchess of Cambridge was so unsettled by Meghan Markle’s entrance into the royal fold was because it happened so fast. Prince Harry fell head over heels for Meghan very quickly, and their engagement happened a lot sooner into their relationship than most royal relationships. After they were engaged, Meghan was fast-tracked into royal life in an unprecedented way. Kate was likely disturbed by it because Kate felt like she had put in the hard, keen work over the course of a decade to get the ring, and Kate was coddled and slow-walked into royal life over the course of years. Well, Us Weekly claims that Kate and Meghan hashed out some of their feelings over Christmas. I’m sure.

Hurt feelings mended on both sides. The royal drama that’s been brewing for months between Duchess Kate and sister-in-law Duchess Meghan was put to rest on Christmas Day after the two women aired their grievances with one another.

“Kate opened up about feeling like Meghan had used her to climb the royal ladder,” a source tells Us Weekly. Pregnant Meghan, 37, meanwhile, admitted that she had felt snubbed by the Duchess of Cambridge, 36. The two worked through their issues on Christmas Day, which they celebrated with the royal family at Sandringham House in Norfolk, England.

“Being under the same roof meant that they couldn’t avoid each other,” the source told Us.

[From Us Weekly]

I don’t understand how Meghan could have used Kate to “climb the royal ladder.” Kate didn’t introduce Meghan to Harry, Meghan and Kate weren’t friends beforehand, and if we learned anything during the smear campaign last month, it’s that Kate didn’t even want to spend time with Meghan during Meg and Harry’s courtship and engagement. So how exactly was Kate being used as a ladder? Or was it like I said in the opening – Kate felt like her courtship of William was being used as a cautionary tale for Meghan and Harry of how they didn’t want to do things?

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  1. Patty says:

    Le sigh.

    • Catherine says:

      I still firmly believe it’s between the brothers.

    • Pandy says:

      Or option #3 …. this is all BS. Ding ding ding!!

      • Milla says:

        It is a story that sells. Not buying anything anymore, it is like fanfiction

      • otaku fairy says:

        Agreed. I’m not really convinced there’s any feuding going on between Meghan and Kate. Girl drama just sells better when it comes to celebrity gossip.

      • Rdmum says:

        I agree. It’s the same narrative as always between two women. They’re either best friends or else they’re at each other’s necks. My sister in-law and I are very fond of each but we have our own lives. Why is it so inconceivable that this could be KM and MM’s relationship?

  2. Justwastingtime says:

    All of these narratives between the two sound very off.

    • minx says:

      Maybe because they’re not true….?

      • Justwastingtime says:

        Well yes, there is that , but they need to lie a bit more convincingly!

      • Jan90067 says:

        The women do not seem to be/have any problems. Now the BROTHERS on the other hand… I think there could be some tension now, but they seemed pretty happy at the wedding ¯_(ツ)_/¯.

        Tension happens in families, someone can take something the wrong way, someone feels slighted…it happens. I still feel that while William might’ve had reservations and talked to Harry, it was sorted before the wedding. Charles started this shit after Harry and Meg were SO successful on the Australian tour. He’s always been a spiteful, selfish, jealous man. While he didn’t mind playing Saviour for the wedding, there is NO WAY he’ll play what is, in HIS mind, second fiddle to H &M JMO.

      • Thirsty Hirsty says:

        @Justwastingtime PLEASE DON’T ENCOURAGE THEM!!! They will do your bidding and start to lie more convincingly if you do :)

    • Megan says:

      Total fan fiction.

    • Himmiefan says:

      This whole story is just another bit of nonsense. Have they even spent enough time together for there to be any resentment? Also, surely Kate would be smart enough to know that she entered the royal world basically in her early 20s while Meghan was in ler late 30s and had been in the working world for many years. Kate and Meghan’s experiences are apples and oranges.

    • Sash says:

      Because it’s all lies? And obviously so!

    • PrincessK says:

      Why should anyone believe US Weekly. The idea that Kate and Meghan would discuss their problems on Christmas Day is totally ridiculous.

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  5. minx says:

    US is as bad as the DM.

  6. Guest says:


  7. Mumbles says:

    Lol. I have the feeling that Kate and her opinion/sway carries little weight in the BRF. And why should it? She doesn’t do anything. She and William seem to do little with Charles so it’s not as if she has his ear.

  8. Enn says:

    This is obviously made up and furthering the feud narrative is no better than the “reporting” by US Weekly and the Fail.

  9. Junejuli says:

    Tune in for the next episode of Days of Our Lives…

    • RBC says:

      Or “As the Stomach Turns”

    • Dixiebells says:

      You know that’s what I think this is. It’s like the media is projecting soap opera level characters onto these sort of blank slates that probably aren’t all that interesting day in and day out (and I doubt even have a minuscule iota of the drama that’s been suggested). So it’s like the tabloids have used their images and the boring info we know publically, and spun it out into a bizarre alternate reality soap opera.

      • minx says:

        The tabs have to print royal stories regularly, I guess, so when there is no news they make sh*t up. They know the BRF isn’t going to bother challenging them when it’s just gossip about sniping and supposed feuds.

      • lucy2 says:

        That’s totally what it is. They’ve done it before with other famous people, usually women, and right now have 2 women who married into the BRF, so they’re pitting them against each other. It’s so dumb.

  10. Gigi La Moore says:

    Now, I have heard it all.

  11. Becks1 says:

    Tsk tsk Us weekly. If you are going to make up a royal story, you at least need to have something in it that rings even partly true. This just makes no sense. How did Meghan use Kate, pray tell?

  12. Peg says:

    Notice the word climb, please!
    What heck would she be climbing in connection to Kate?

    • Chrissy says:

      Interesting since Kate’s entire pre-wedding identity was as being a social climber hence the Wisteria Sisters nickname. Kate has nothing to show Meg. I’m still waiting for Kate to “hit the ground running” while Meg actually did it.

      • JustSayin' says:

        “Kate and Pippa have already been dubbed the Wisteria Sisters – they’re highly decorative, terribly fragrant and have a ferocious ability to climb”.

    • Dr Mrs The Monarch says:

      I noticed too. It would be total hypocrisy for Kate to be offended by another woman improving her own social status.

      Now, imagine if Harry had done the old-fashioned, traditional thing and married an actual blood Princess? Kate and Will would implode if Harry’s wife outranked the duchess of Cambridge.

      Will & Kate seemed perfectly happy for Harry to marry the “tawdry, b-list actress with the embarrassing trashy family”, but ever since the cook book and Pacific tour were successful the Cambridges have realized that they are being bested by a former actress who refuses to engage with petty jerks. Imagine the tea Harry could spill about them too, yet he hasn’t.

  13. anony83 says:

    I swear, every story I see about these two now seems to be some new “source” coming up with a creative explanation for the “feud” because they don’t want to admit that William and Harry are fighting about something (probably that Harry is getting more and better press than William is and Wills is actually the one who is petty and jealous about it).

    Maybe there was some tension between these two but honestly it sounds more like they get on fine, maybe with a couple of tense moments here and there, and that on Christmas they handled them like the adults they are ALL supposed to be. They may not be the best of friends but they get on just fine. And because of that, now every royal “expert” has to find some other way to stoke the rumors of a rift between them (because it doesn’t really exist and pretending it does isn’t going to go anywhere) while also explaining why they actually get on fine with each other. All while carefully never ever mentioning the obvious elephant in the room of their husbands.

    Because god forbid they admit the truth, that the two Princes are in some kind of petty spat. Because only women can be petty, competitive, and territorial, right?

    • Bohemian Angel says:

      Unfortunately this “fued” rumour isn’t going away anytime soon. I just saw today an advert for a documentary to be aired this Sunday on TV called “Princesses at war – Kate vs Meghan”. A lot of people seem to be buying into this narrative that Meghan made Kate cry and she’s a tyrant.

  14. Millennial says:

    Maybe she means she (Kate) had to learn how the royal life works the slow/hard way and Meghan benefitted from all her “pro-tips,” without having to put in the work? And now Kate’s resentful?

    I don’t get the feeling Kate went out of her way to take Meghan under her wing, so I’m not sure this narrative works.

  15. HK9 says:

    Bwahahahaha-ridiculosity at it’s best.

  16. Zapp Brannigan says:

    Next door neighbour’s cat comes into my garden at least twice a week to poop.
    That action has more creativity, innovation and artistry that anything that the gossip rags have produced about the “feud” between these two.

    2/10 must try harder magazine writers!

  17. Cidy says:

    Oh my God lmao. This is just total fanfiction at this point. I cracked up at my desk. These two women probably dont think about each other nearly as much as the British tabloid media do.

    I hope I can stop hearing about this “feud” sometime in my lifetime.

  18. Lily says:

    This makes no sense, it just makes it even more clear the press NEED to push this narrative to make money and I am certain both Kate and Meghan realise this too.

  19. Citresse says:

    I don’t think there’s any feud going on….but I do wonder what Kate thought of MM placing her hand on her back during Xmas holidays?

    • Tina says:

      Probably the same as the Queen thought when Michelle Obama did the same thing – thought nothing of it.

    • Himmiefan says:

      And Eugenie placed hers on Meghan’s when they greeted each other while going into the church.

    • Erinn says:

      I mean, I’d be less weirded out by it if it’s a family member (even a new one) than a random celebrity or something. I doubt it caused a stir at all.

  20. LizB says:

    Such BS.

  21. Elisa says:

    Hahaha, this is BS. Sounds like an intern quickly inventing sth last minute.

  22. launicaangelina says:

    This was a totally stupid version of fan fiction. Meghan could not use her because she didn’t interact with Kate before the engagement. *grabs purse and leaves*

  23. Tzu says:

    Why are we still believing these stories have even a shred of truth in them? I know I’m pretty much a unicorn in these parts, but I genuinely like both duchesses and both princes. They are very different, but I don’t think either is better than the other.

    • Himmiefan says:

      Exactly. It’s not either/or; it’s both. Both are good for the family.

    • Mel says:

      Agree. All these “feud” stories are so stupid. Brothers fight/argue, people don’t always become instant friends when they’re related. Or they do but don’t feel that they have to prove it to anyone else. All this I think come from the fact that the press isn’t getting much, so they’re making it up as they go along.

    • notasugarhere says:

      It is difficult for me to understand someone who claims to like both of them. They are so different, from self-esteem to work ethic and professionalism.

      • rukidding says:

        Some people just dont have obsessive hatred for people they don’t know. Not sure what’s hard to understand about this.

      • Reese. says:

        @rukidding that is literally the best comment I’ve read in days lol….so bloody true and just plain sad for people to have such venom and vitriol for people they don’t actually know. Bothers me when I read racist rubbish about Meghan and the repetitive hate on Kate, even when she does something positive. Leaves them such a narrow view of life and possibility.

      • Tzu says:

        @Nota, I have friends from many different backgrounds, that lead different lifestyles, have different personalities, and sometimes even different values. Variety and differences can actually be a strength instead of a weakness, if you let it.

      • Lea says:

        I like them both. I don’t really care about what’s going on behind closed doors – and I don’t think we will ever know what these people are really like in their private lives.
        I like both of their public personas. I loved seeing Kate and Will get married, and I love seeing them with their little ones. I love seeing Meghan and Harry together. I was happy she got pregnant. And I also bought her cookbook because it was a great initiative. I don’t care if they are all feuding or not. To me they are just all a pretty package to look at.

      • Elisa says:

        @rukidding: slow clap.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Ah the refuge of the Kate fan, assuming hate. I don’t hate anyone. I find William and Kate useless, lazy, sly, conniving, all kinds of things. Have for years before Meghan came along. But it isn’t hate.

        But admiring both women makes no sense to me. I find nothing admirable in Kate, from her WAG existence to her letting William get away with being a lousy husband. What is there to admire?

      • Reese. says:

        @nota spending every post/comment slagging Kate, William and Diana and absolutely anything to do with them, and constantly, I mean take a good look at your history of being outright NASTY to commentors (me included) to even dare say something positive about them gives you an excuse to spill vitriol to say the same repetitive rubbish ie) useless, lazy, sly, conniving. Your neagtivity to others who disagree with you and these Royals crosses a line of what a person would consider a normal interest towards an unhealthy obsession. I can slag Kate for being a lazy Royal but can also see positivity in some projects. Most people can be objective and acknowledge good deeds even in people they don’t appreciate on a personal level. It’s called being a decent human being or an adult for that matter.

      • Anitas says:

        @nota Why is William a lousy husband? How can you claim to know so much about their intimate lives and with such absolute conviction? It does come across as obsessive and unhealthy fan fiction.

  24. Seraphina says:

    Side eye to this story. Because no way did Megs used Kate. If this is true, someone needs to tell Kate to get over herself.

    And of course Kate had to put in keen hard work to get the ring. Wills wife will be the queen consort, Harry’s wont. Can’t compare apples to oranges. That was my smart arse reaponce to all the QC comments 😝

    • Mego says:

      Speaking in general terms, courtship between people in their twenties is longer than the courtship of people in later decades. You are still figuring out so much and maturing in your twenties.

      • Andrea says:

        I’m 37 and cannot imagine marrying someone in under two years.

      • Justwastingtime says:

        Agree, met my dh in my late 20s, moved in together with in two weeks And married within the year. Marriage is still going strong 20 years later.. after 2 kids, one cross country move, and multiple career changes between the two of us.. when you hit a certain maturity level, you just know.

    • notasugarhere says:

      Kate had to put in the hard work because William didn’t want to marry her. Ended up with her eventually as the last one standing after he chased and cheated and dumped so many times.

      Meghan? Harry knew right away she was the one, which has to rankle Kate.

      • Mego says:

        Yeah the stories about Isabella Calthorpe and his ongoing attachment to Jecca alonge would make me insecure if I were Kate. Plus the waiting and waiting. Their “romance” was pretty uninspiring and cringeworthy but they were very young when they got together. I guess I compare them to relationships I had at that age and they were equally bad but I didn’t hang around for years. It must rankle to see Harry and Meghan so into each other.

  25. Sassy says:

    This is the dumbest story that they have came up with yet.
    Two different brothers who met their wives at two different points in their lives… Apples and oranges.

  26. Maxie says:

    The beef is clearly between the brothers. I don’t know why the media insist on pitting these two women against each other.

  27. MargaritasForBreakfast says:

    Why are we calling it “last month’s smear campaign” as if the bashing of Meghan in tabloids and on social media has ceased? It continues as far as I can see! I do see more people starting to defend Meghan from the insane ramblings of Piers Morgan and unhinged social media posters which is great but I’m not sure why the smear campaign is being spoken of in the past tense?

  28. Velvet Elvis says:

    This whole feud *[If it even really exists] is about jealousy. Will and Kate were the royal star couple until shiny new couple Harry and Meghan came along and stole some of their thunder. Will’ s ego couldn’t take that his brother’s and wife’s popularity exceeded his own so he’s dispensed his displeasure on everyone.

  29. Murphy says:

    Kate, it’s not Megan’s fault that William strung you along for the better part of a decade.

    • minx says:

      Uh, the whole story is nonsense.

    • notasugarhere says:

      ^This. But I’ll bet it upsets Kate to see Harry so loving and doting. Likewise William doesn’t like his little brother, one he used for PR for so long, coming out of the shadows with a woman who is made for the job.

    • Anitas says:

      I just don’t understand the digs about waity Katy. Weren’t Kate and William like 21 when they started dating? Some people just don’t feel ready to marry in their 20s and it takes them time to mature together, is that so strange? I imagine the vetting process for the wife of an heir is different than the wife of a spare as well. Would William get away with marrying someone like Meghan? Yeah right.

  30. Mego says:

    When I first read this I didn’t think I would be able to unroll my eyes. Keep going with the ludicrous stories tabloids – looking forward to the one about Meghan being impregnated by aliens.

  31. Pokello says:

    Piers Morgan is realy hurt by being ghosted by Meghan,I saw one interview when he talked abt her and he was almost going to cry,what a loser,I think this man wanted Meghan for himself so his annoyed prince harry took her away from him😂😂😂😂

    • Tessy says:

      She does quite a bit of ghosting, doesn’t she.

      • Sid says:

        Seems like everyone she has “ghosted” has turned out to be a user, jerk, and/ or clown, so it appears she is rather smart I’d say.

      • otaku fairy says:

        I loathe Piers Morgan, and honestly anyone whose dislike of Meghan Markle or any other liberal woman is strong enough for her to be defending his nonsense or portraying him as the wronged party in any situation is side-eye worthy.

      • Lady D says:

        Everyone being her sister, father, and ex-husband? You don’t think any one of us couldn’t come up with a similar sized list of people we no longer have anything to do with? Any idea how many of us deal with parents who passed the toxic barrier 20 years ago or more? You ghost to save your sanity, a decision that carries its own trauma with it.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Cutting abusive people out of her life is a trait to admire.

  32. Fabs says:

    How these two can be compared? They are not equal: cathrine will be queen and Meghan will never. Of course courtship and engagement were very different.quite silly compare the twos.

    • Cee says:

      LOL and the “but she’s going to be Queeeeeen!!!” comments pops up, of course.

    • Himmiefan says:

      I’m still not convinced that the monarchy will last past Charles. People are so used to Elizabeth as queen, that after she passes, the monarchy might just too.

    • Bohemian Angel says:

      @Fabs Never say never.

      • Fabs says:

        Well William and his kids have all to die first for her to became queen… thing is: if there was a slightly chance that she could became queen do you think that he would be allowed to marry her and stay in the Royal family? An American divorcee? No way. They let him because it’s good marketing but they are nothing more than good advertising. that’s how it works sadly .

      • Nic919 says:

        The current Queen was never expected to be the monarch either because her father was the second son and yet she is. And the first born didn’t get killed. While it is unlikely that it would happen you can never predict what will happen with absolute certainty. Diana was spoken of as future queen as well and she married the heir apparent. Nothing is ever a guarantee.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Fabs, the future king divorced his popular wife and married a divorced woman once he was a widower. And the monarchy in the UK still exists. There would be no constitutional crisis if Harry ended up as the heir.

        If the heir of Catholic Spain can marry a divorcee in a church wedding, a church founded because a king wanted a divorce isn’t going to fall apart if a future queen consort had a previous husband. In fact, Camilla may end up as Queen Consort.

      • Bohemian Angel says:

        Oh, I totally agree, they allowed them to marry so they can be seen to be moving with the times and exclusive. However, somebody needs to advise the Cambridges to stop travelling together just as the Queen banned Charles and William flying together, a fatal accident can happen at any given time. So if they don’t want the brown American divorced former actress (not my opinion) to sit on the throne beside her husband then they ought to have a word with the Cambridges.

      • Lady D says:

        @Fabs: William does not have to die for Harry to become king. He can simply quit if he wants. Elizabeth’s father was never supposed to be King. He was the younger brother, too.

    • notasugarhere says:

      Rania and Abdullah were engaged four months after they met. Felipe and Letizia were engaged around 6 months after meeting.

      William took a decade to marry Kate because he didn’t want to get married and didn’t want to marry her. He would have been that way even if he wasn’t a royal, but we all know Kate wouldn’t have stuck around for Billy the Plumber.

    • Sid says:

      “They are not equal”

      Wow. I could write an essay on this comment but I’ll keep it cute and move on.

  33. Bellagio says:

    My theory is that Will and Harry have lived pretty much separate lives and also have not taken Royal responsibilities seriously. Since the Royal Wedding (the good one), Will and Kate had to step it up, since Meghan took her position seriously and showed her work.
    Maybe, there was a dose of scepticism in the beginning that Meghan would fail, and therefore good press would be automatic for William And Kate.
    Fortunately, Meghan aced her duties, is qualified, educated, ambitious and actually makes a better impression on the public for the monarchy, so it sort of backfired on Kate and William.
    I can’t see that sitting well with the future king, especially since Will and Kate have been labeled as workshy.
    It puts pressure on them to do at least as much, or probably more, since everything is a competition, and if you are not used to it, you better take notes from Meghan how to send emails at 5 am and be productive.
    Also, to use Kate to climb a social ladder is laughable. If anyone can benefit when it comes to image, it’s probably Kate hanging out with Meghan.
    They might be Royal and born into privilege, however that sort of cushion also makes them vulnerable. Other people with far less privilege (like Meghan), do more work, good and actually have a goal in life, so not only does that make her relatable, but it makes her stand on her own. A person with her own career, opinion, mind and ability to sway public whichever way she wishes.
    If you thought Royals were catty, here is someone straight from Hollywood and if she was able to play that game for years, Kate, William and these fossil courtiers, are in for a surprise.
    Buckle up Kate and eat some marshmallows.

  34. Ader says:

    I’m going against the grain, because I can totally see Kate thinking that Meg “used her.” I don’t agree, and it’s a pretty stupid accusation considering they had nothing to do with each other prior to Harry and Meg’s engagement, but I could totally see Kate thinking this way. I also have no doubt that there was snubbing going on, on Will and Kate’s part.

    Basically, I think Will and Kate had some, shall we say, “implicit bias problems” with Megs. That, plus Will and Kate are hyper-competitive and want to be the only “young royal” superstars. AND (I’m just going to say it), I think Kate is a bit insecure with Meghan’s beauty. Meg is off the charts gorgeous, and Kate is…not looking as great as she used to. (Not saying she is ugly by any means, she’s just getting that look that many smokers get when they age…)

    • minx says:

      If it’s “a pretty stupid accusation considering they had nothing to do with each other prior to Harry and Meg’s engagement” why would you think it was true?

    • R says:

      I don’t think I will ever get my eyes to stop rolling at this comment.

      First of all Meghan is beautiful yes but so is Kate and this sexist idea that they couldn’t get along and just be fine but one has to be on top and better and the other jealous and insecure and there for has some bias is infuriating.

      If we want to talk about implicit bias then this site and posters need to look in the mirror because honestly the comments on the Warren thread, and EVERY thread about the royals is beyond sexist and plays up every negative stereotype of women.

      This story is clearly made up

      • minx says:

        Acknowledging that the story is stupid but still using it as a way to bash both Kate’s behavior and looks…smh.

      • minx says:

        R, I wasn’t referring to your comment obviously, rather the OP.

      • Ader says:

        Please explain how what I said was sexist. I’m genuinely curious. It’s sexist to acknowledge that women can be competitive and that appearance is part of their jobs? I’m not trolling, I genuinely don’t understand the sexism angle.

        Petty? Sure. All day long. But gossip is petty by definition, and this is a gossip site.

      • Jegede says:


        Yes and IMO both are attractive women.

        And absolutely neither are “off the charts gorgeous”.🤨🤨

        But hey, different strokes for different folks

      • otaku fairy says:

        I do find Meghan really pretty, but that doesn’t mean there’s squabbling between them or that either one has a problem with the other based on looks.

      • Ader says:

        @Otaku — Absolutely. Or it could be. As I mentioned below, I was just drawing a possibility based on two factors: 1) Kate’s self-admitted competitive streak and 2) The aesthetic nature of their jobs.

        I think, sometimes, we humans want to believe we’re “above” certain things, when in reality we’re petty animals in many regards, and acknowledging that is just as important as acknowledging implicit biases of all stripes. To truly “fix” ourselves and our society, we first need to acknowledge who we really are, which is rough work. Personally, I think, right now, we’re in a period where we give a lot of lip service to a lot of social improvements, but are still psychologically chained to things like “in-group favoritism” and patriarchal norms.

      • Ader says:

        @minx — Kate has been in the public eye for over a decade. I did not just use this one article to form my opinions. Come on now.

    • spidee!!! says:

      @ Ader – Know them well do you?

      • Ader says:

        “I think” is littered throughout my post, not “I know.”

        LOL. This post really triggered some people. Whew!

    • Ader says:

      LOL. You guys get so worked up. The actual story could be true or it could not be. All I am saying is that I could SEE this being true. There’s a difference.

      So, go ahead. Roll your eyes away.

      • Yami says:

        @Ader, Girl, I totally agree with you. Kate is pretty, but Meghan, is a a little more than that and it’s not even looks, it’s the whole package, the humanitarian angle, the having worked. The real life experience, it’s on a whole other level with Meg. People will come for you, but I see you and agree.

      • Ader says:

        Thank you, Yami! I am beginning to realize that what people may actually be reacting to is that I dared to suggest that Meghan was prettier.

    • rukidding says:

      Seriously, ader? Your last paragraph is absolutely ridiculous and sexist.

      • Ader says:

        It’s sexist to say that smoking ages us? SEXIST? The same thing happens to men. It’s happening to me because I smoked too long! And Kate is notoriously competitive, which is why I think she has a problem with Meg being better looking. There is nothing sexist about that. Women can’t be competitive with each other on multiple levels? And if you’re trying to say that we should never talk about “looks,” that’s ridiculous. Appearance is literally part of their jobs.

        You guys crack me up sometimes.

      • tori says:

        Ader, looks are subjective. You don’t speak for anyone other than yourself. I think you’re just trolling.

      • Ader says:

        I did speak for myself. I gave my opinion. I was speculating, which is what this entire site is about. Trolling? Because I have a different opinion? Okie Dokie.

      • Pineappleshots says:

        Ader, yes people on here have been labeled bots and trolls when they have a difference of opinion. But this is the first time a Meghan fan has been labeled a troll, lol. Usually, the Kate fans are called everything under the sun.

    • Linda says:

      Give it a rest please. Many of us can see through the sexist nonsense the media constantly puts out about Kate and Meghan.

      • Ader says:

        What is sexist about what I said!? I am genuinely curious. I’m a hard leftie progressive, so I really want to understand how what I said is sexist. I just don’t see it.

        I prefer people with spikes. In fact, the thing I like MOST about Kate is that she is notoriously competitive. I’m not, but I love that she is. It fills out her character.

    • LoveMusic says:

      Meghan is not prettier than Kate. Both are lovely women. Beautiful, even. And Kate has a much more “model-type” body and is much taller, both traits that the patriarchy tells us we should all strive for.
      And honestly, if my brother had money and met and married a woman he had been dating from afar, I would have been concerned, also. Especially cause actresses, by definition, work for fame, which William, and supposedly Harry, hate.
      So I don’t think caution on William’s part is racist or snobbery. Just caution.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Kate doesn’t have a model’s body, but she is good at having clothes remade with high waists to fool your eyes. And you fell for it.

      • minx says:

        Yes, let’s analyze both women’s bodies, by all means 🙄

      • Pineappleshots says:

        Kate is tall and very slim – that is what I presume she meant by having a models body. I’m not sure what her waist has to do with anything because models are rarely curvy. Kate at her smallest, was a UK size 6, add her height and you get a models body. Simple, no one has been fooled, lol.

      • Ader says:

        I want to point out, too, that “implicit bias” is more than just racism. Any and all biases fall under the umbrella. In this case, I think Will and Kate’s implicit bias was probably a mirepoix of racism, “anti-Americanism” (for lack of a better term), and the fact that she was a B-star actress.

      • Lady D says:

        @LoveMusic, “if my brother had money and met and married a woman he had been dating from afar, I would have been concerned, also.”
        If you saw how incredibly happy this lady made your brother, wouldn’t that be what counted?

      • otaku fairy says:

        Any woman, whether she’s an actress or anything else, will be assumed to be out for money and/or fame if she hooks up with, dates, or marries someone who’s considered above her station or is worth more money though. There’s really nothing they can do to change the minds of people who are determined to believe that. The fact that people assume choosing certain types of careers means a woman can’t ever be after anything in life other than attention/fame is also a factor. Meanwhile, judgments won’t be made about him wanting to marry possibly because of the novelty of her being an actress.
        I think they actually do love each other though, and think that for some, it would take a lot of emotional investment in a person to want to marry them despite them being royalty.

      • notasugarhere says:

        What I find sad is women who claim to be fans of Kate because of her looks, but who don’t admire what she looks like in real life. It is the fans who use photoshop to change her into a Barbie.

    • Ader says:

      A few more thoughts. I’d argue that the insistence that women must be wonderful to each other only serves to reinforce the patriarchy. Because you’re (universal you) essentially saying that all women must be nurturing and kind with one another. We must be “sweet” with each other. I’ve found that we humans are complete hypocrites on this front. We make a lot of noise about “supporting” other women, but when it comes down to the hard work of actually learning about women who are different than us, we plug our eyes and ears and get carried away on a raft of defensiveness. Our commitment to “supporting” can be, arguably, shallow at best. Surface level.

      After considering the responses, it seems like people are mad that I think Kate is a snob and Meg is better looking. It’s true. I do think Kate (and William!) fall on the snobbier side of the scale. I don’t see why this is such a problem. Some people are snobs! And if your response is: But you don’t know them! Well, this site is all about speculation and celebrity gossip! That’s the entire point of it. So I don’t see how assessing Kate as a snob is a problem. I also think Meg is calculating. To get to where she is from where she started? Of COURSE she’s calculating — and it’s damned impressive! I wish I had been as meticulous about life’s choices!

      As for the looks issue: I can see why my comment upset people. Beauty, like many other things in life, is a privilege. (30 Rock’s “Bubble” episode did a great job poking fun at this aspect of our society-culture.) So yes, people may be triggered by “beauty talk.” Understandable. At the same time, I was speaking to Kate’s (self-admitted) competitive DNA, against the back drop of the aesthetic nature of their jobs, which is a different conversation.

      Now, some of you may be upset I mentioned smoking’s impact on Kate’s appearance. Look, it’s just a scientific fact. Excessive alcohol does a number on the liver, and smoking is no friend of “looking our best.” I deeply regret smoking for so many years. I would look better now if I hadn’t then. A bummer and regret.

      It’s also interesting that some people interpreted the suggestion that Meg is better looking as “Kate is not attractive.” As if any comparison must be a binary. But that’s not what I said at all. In fact, I’d argue that there’s not a single average looking person that has married into the House of Windsor since the dawn of television. They’ve all been very good looking, including Prince Phillip! That may not be a mere coincidence.

  35. Tessa says:

    Yeah sure some royal “insider” (employee?) risks it all to confide in a rag like us weekly. Yep, they spilled the beans on what went on behind closed doors at a private family gathering. Can’t believe people will read that crap

  36. brutalethyl says:

    The women “aired their grievances.” That sounds more like Festivus than Christmas.

    I think the royal family could use a little Festivus. It might shake them up a little, for the better.

  37. mtam says:

    Lol how much up the ladder do they think she can go? She literally went from working/semi-known actress to royalty.

  38. incognito08 says:

    To be honest, I take all of these stories of the so-called dysfunction between Kate and Meghan with a grain of salt. The stories always appear to be silly with a fan-fiction slant. Now, I will believe these stories when actual receipts are presented – specifically, when the “sources” are named. If publications like The Fail and Us Weekly can’t do that, I will continue to chuckle and look at their stories as being fictitious.

  39. Maddie says:

    Lol. Maybe the royals should invest in a dictionary, they seem to not know the definition of lots of words – work, love, ladder.

  40. spidee!!! says:

    Shelve in the fiction section please.

    Which must be getting very full by now.

  41. Fluffy Princess says:

    This HAS to be the dumbest story yet. Meghan didn’t even know Kate prior to dating Harry. Their romance was bi-continental, so WHEN was she using Kate to scratch her way up the Royal ladder? By all accounts, they didn’t really “know-know” each other until Meghan moved to England full-time, and by that time she was already “IN” with Harry–so. . .?

    Yeah, just dumb.

    • minx says:

      Thank you.

    • Deedee says:

      Is it possible it’s just lowkey trolling of Kate? Since she was social ladder climbing all those years?

      • Elisa says:

        honestly, anyone marrying into the RF is a social climber – and why not? If you enjoy living in a gilded cage…

    • kacy says:

      The only thing I can think of is the Lainey story about Kate not telling her she was taking a car to go to the same store. Kate might view that as Meghan throwing her under the bus to look better, but that is only thing that could apply.

  42. Amber says:

    I felt like Kate was mad that Meagan stole her favorite toy away, it was just the three of them for so long and suddenly Harry finds another woman.

  43. Corporatestepsister says:

    Kate isn’t some victim of Meg (or anyone else) and I’m fed up with her victim act and her victim narrative. What Kate did with William for all those years was not hard graft and no one made her stick around in William’s life. No one made Kate put herself in William’s path or hold on for all those years and there isn’t some kind of work quote a woman puts in to be entitled to a ring.

    • MrsBeast says:

      Her victim act? She is not playing a victim. These stories are likely total BS and you’re falling for it.

    • notasugarhere says:

      Kate and William often play the victims, and more often than not people fall for it.

  44. Royalblue says:

    What ladder are they referring to? She went from independent, income earning, freedom loving woman to living in a gilded cage. That was a step down if you ask me. Who aspires to that? Oh sorry, the future queen consort.

    • MrsBeast says:

      Yeah. Agreed. Gilded cage is exactly what these women are in.

    • notasugarhere says:

      Maxima, Letizia, Daniel – they all seem to do just fine in their roles. It is only a cage if you cannot figure out how to utilize the position in a way you enjoy. It can be an incredible, global stage for good if you want it to be.

      • Pearlime says:

        I’d be careful with that comparison. I don’t know about Maxima but Letizia and some other European princesses struggled visibly during their first years before they eventually grew into their roles. Letizia, Mary and Victoria all had eating disorders at some point. Victoria even went abroad to study in her tweens to escape the palace and deal with her bulimia – she talked about that a few years ago.

      • notasugarhere says:

        No Letizia does not have an eating disorder and never has. She is naturally tiny like her mother, eats like a horse (according to her husband), and works it all off. Mary chooses to diet herself too small for her frame for vanity.

        Victoria didn’t marry in to a royal family, which was the comparison I was making. I place the blame for that eating disorder on her sexist father and unhappy mother. Thank goodness for Daniel.

      • Pearlime says:

        You forgot to mention Sentebale and Invictus ;-)

    • Pineappleshots says:

      Every person who marries into Royalty is a social climber. I still don’t even know why social climbing is seen as such a horrible thing to do! It’s evident that Meghan was climbing her way up before Harry, but I don’t think she ever imagined being Royalty!

      • sunshine poolside says:

        You have to differenciate. Not every person who has a relationship with a richer person of higher status is a social climber. But there are social climbers and in order to find out why it is frowned upon you have to look at social climbing as an isolated strategy which it is likely not in reality. So here is why social climbing is inacceptable:

        Social climbing is unmeritocratic and immoral. Because in its original meaning it implies you get ahead by spreading your legs and nothing but spreading your legs. It implied you don’t even try for meritocratic achievements but you rely on your family jewels and bring nothing else to the table than that.

        That being said: in reality it is rarely like that.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Letizia the Republican refused Felipe’s request for a date three times. She fell in love with him in spite of his royal status.

  45. Bethany Karger says:

    Wonder what Kate (and Carole) would have done if she hadn’t gotten the ring, especially after 10 years of waiting and trying?

  46. Deedee says:

    That hairband/hat thing on Kate’s head doesn’t match her coat. Sorry, can’t look at that picture without cringing.

  47. Peg says:

    Well folks, #GreggsveganSausageroll, trolled Piers Morgan yesterday and won the sausage fight.
    It’s was funny that so many Brits bought the vegansausageroll after Piers pick a fight with it.
    The tweets were so funny comparing the two sausages, Piers and the Vegansausage roll, the word most often used to describe Piers was pudgy.
    Even one of the Burger joints was asking Piers to attack them, because they know most people can’t stand him, and it would move their burgers.

  48. Misty says:

    Why does William give me the vibe that he has a side chick?

  49. Pokelloy says:

    @ misty I wouldn’t be surprised if his got,late looks stressed recently,maybe she discovered something ,time will tell

  50. Reece says:

    Oh US Weekly, Bless their hearts!

  51. Noel says:

    Meghan looks shorter than 1.71m when she stands next to Kate. She looks like she’s about 1.68m while Kate is 1.75m .

  52. Tess says:

    Just from a spectator perspective, I feel like maybe William did a lot of things in their relationship and then would just tell Kate “oh it’s royal protocol”, when in reality it was just his preference. Like if he didn’t want to spend Christmas with her and would tell her “oh fiancee’s only” or “royal work is optional” or whatever. And now Harry and Megan in comparison looks like they fast tracked and get to do all these things that she didn’t get to do, when there really was no protocol for things. And maybe protocol is not a “set law”, maybe Harry really wanted to include Megan and bothered to ask if he could and was given a yes. And now Kate is butt hurt because all that stuff makes her look bad or she’s mad at William for saying he couldn’t when he could.

  53. The “Royal Ladder?”

    Honey, it’s literally a Kitchen Stepstool to Nowhere.

  54. GigiC says:

    All this BS is racist af.