Donald Trump’s primetime address was mostly about his 2020 campaign

President Trump Addresses The Nation On Border Security From The Oval Office

I did not watch Donald Trump’s primetime address last night. I gave Lindsay Lohan’s Beach Club a shot (it was awful) and then I watched tennis. But in case you did watch it and you have feelings you’d like to discuss, this post is for you. I’m assuming Trump spewed a bunch of lies about the wall and immigration, and then I assume everyone talked amongst themselves about how he lies but they still treated him like a legitimate president and not the Kremlin’s puppet. Here’s a good summary from Jonathan Chait at New York Magazine in a piece called “The U.S. Doesn’t Have a Border Crisis. Trump’s Campaign Does.”

In a short, uncharacteristically non-meandering speech to the nation from the Oval Office punctuated by loud sniffing, President Trump depicted illegal immigration as an urgent crisis. In place of cogent policy arguments, Trump substituted his familiar anecdotes about immigrants rampaging the countryside to commit a series of grisly crimes against law-abiding Americans.

A more realistic assessment was provided by administration officials, who told the Washington Post (as the Post reporter put it), “Trump believes forcing a drastic reckoning by executive action may be necessary given the Democratic resistance and the wall’s symbolic power for his core voters.” Two words in that sentence, symbolic power, tell you everything you need to know about Trump’s motivation. A symbolic goal is the opposite of a crisis.

The lack of a wall is a crisis for Trump, of course, because it is his most famous policy goal — for many of his voters, probably the only one that springs to mind. Failure to fulfill it may hurt him badly in 2020. It is not rationally connected to either illegal immigration nor to crime. The administration recently claimed 4,000 suspected terrorists crossed the southern border in the first half of last year. The actual number is six.

[From New York Magazine]

So he got precious primetime minutes – when people could have been watching The Voice, or a dancing show! – to talk about how the Wall is “symbolic goal” for… his campaign. It’s something that’s important to a slim minority of Americans who just happen to be racist Trump supporters. What’s more significant here is that Trump shut down the government in a fit of pique, because he’s always mid-tantrum, and he doesn’t really understand the shutdown or what it’s doing or how to escape it. This is like a Jean-Paul Sartre story by way of the Coen Brothers.

President Trump Delivers a Primetime Address in Washington, D.C.

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  1. cannibell says:

    Evidently he also used the time to fundraise for his re-election campaign. (sarcastic font) Very tasteful (sarcastic font).

    I dragged my Sweetheart out of the house to go and see Pardeep Kaleka and Arno Michaelis. One’s dad was killed by a white supremacist in the Sikh Temple of which he was the leader; the other is a former white supremacist. The room was crowded with mostly white but some not-white people who, like us, jumped at the chance to hear something way more edifying than the Xenophobe-in-Chief.

    https://www.milwaukeemag.com/pardeep-singh-kaleka-arno-michaelis-co-author-book-about-forgiveness-after-hate/

    • Digital Unicorn says:

      This is going to be his greatest con – con billions of dollars out of the American taxpayer. Mark my words that money from the ‘fundraisers’ are going straight into his pocket as will any funding for his ‘wall’ as am sure he has contracts with Trump companies all ready to go to ‘win’ the ‘work’.

      • Sigh... says:

        I’ve said this time and time again to ANYONE & ANYTHING with ears around me. I even said to the ears of corn in the produce section! This wall must’ve been promised to *someone(s)* in the form of $$$ (cash, govt contracts/access, etc). He doesn’t give a SHIT about the safety of this or any country, just his pockets (a GREAT quality to have in a world/civil leader, according to the dummies who voted for him).

      • Lua says:

        I don’t know why everyone is so against a concrete wall. It worked SO WELL for the Soviet’s side of Berlin 🙄

      • BeanieBean says:

        That’s what I’ve been thinking—he’s so desperate for the $5 billion, not to build anything but to line somebody’s pockets. His, his family’s, his cronies, his Russian handlers.

      • Tiffany :) says:

        I agree, Sigh. I think he wants funds to build the wall so that he can funnel the money to his family and his mobster friends.

        Just like when the Trump family created a company to *pretend* to sell supplies to themselves to furnish their real estate assets, he will create a company to sell wall building construction supplies to the gov’t.

        The Trump faux company was named All County Building Supply & Maintenance.

    • Megan says:

      Thanks to the incompetence of Manafort’s attorneys, Trump is going to be bellowing even louder about his wall so no one talks about the hard evidence of collusion between his campaign and Russia.

  2. grabbyhands says:

    Color me shocked.

    Someone reined him in enough to keep him from formally declaring a national emergency last night, but it is only a matter of time until his desperation and ego flare up again and he says it.

  3. tmbg says:

    I can’t take boxhead seriously for even a second. He pretends to care about refugee women and children yet doesn’t give a flip that his stupid shutdown is affecting people who need that paycheck to survive. He’s a selfish POS and I doubt he’s ever cared about anyone.

    • Elkie says:

      People who care about refugees don’t gas, starve, freeze, dehydrate, separate, number or put them in concentration camps.

      People who care about entirely legal, US-born American citizens don’t try to kick 30 million of them off access to affordable healthcare, deny millions access to food stamps, triple HUD rents, allow big business to poison water sources, effectively legalise white collar crime, freeze cost of living allowances for millions, deny them tax rebates in good order and betray veterans at every turn.

      It’s almost like Trump’s only concern is delivering performative cruelty to satiate his mouth-frothing White Evangelical Mammonite base’s spittle-flecked hatred for everything Jesus told them to embrace.

      • OriginalLala says:

        your last paragraph is so spot on

      • tmbg says:

        You perfectly summed it all up. I will never understand these “Christians” who apparently aren’t aware of how Jesus treated others. My friend is a fundamentalist and very judgmental and another lady I know is Catholic and truly follows Jesus’s example. I think the hardcore fundamentalists are actually some of the worst Christian examples.

      • Kitten says:

        Nailed it.

      • Jerusha says:

        @tmbg. I call them Old Testamenters, not Christians. They don’t give a flip about love thy neighbor and do unto others and as you do unto the least of these and all that peace and love hippie stuff. They get into sacrifice your firstborn and all the other bloodthirsty revenge stuff. They should just own it.

      • Cay says:

        The evangelists have to continue to support Trump because they are all the same. They all tell lies to get gullible people to support them (usually financially). An admission by Jerry Falwell, Jr. that Trump is a phony is the same as him telling the world that he is a phony.

      • Sadezilla says:

        Yup. It’s a sick symbiosis between cons.

        @Jerusha, I like that! I may co-opt it if I may.

      • Anastasia says:

        Did you see that Tweet from that woman who voted for Trump who was dismayed that “he’s not hurting the people we wanted him to hurt”?

        LIKE OH MY GOD. He’s not hurting the people SHE wanted him to hurt. THAT’S why she voted for him. Disgusting!!!

      • pottymouth pup says:

        “I voted for him, and he’s the one who’s doing this,” Crystal Minton told The New York Times in an article published Monday. “I thought he was going to do good things. He’s not hurting the people he needs to be hurting.

        This says it all. The people who voted for Trump did so because they wanted him to punish/hurt people they don’ t like, not because they wanted a functional & efficient government. They also that hurting/removing those others will also put them in a higher caste that enriches them while giving them the privilege to dominate/control others

        https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/07/us/florida-government-shutdown-marianna.html

    • Anastasia says:

      A woman was interviewed on NPR. She was from Honduras, and was escaping violence and death threats. She watched Trump’s address and when he mentioned women on these journeys being sexually assaulted, she said that’s true, so why doesn’t he care enough to let us in?

      Good point.

    • tmbg says:

      @pottymouth pup – I just read that article and Crystal Minton can F off. Who votes with the intention to hurt people? I thought it was to improve everyone’s lives if possible. Trump and his supporters bring out feelings in me that I never knew I had, and they’re not good ones. 🤦🏼‍♀️

    • MyBlackCats says:

      SAD. The cheeseburger hole can only recite national enquirer style hype & human interest. It can barely annunciate; I muted right after “my fefow anmearkinins”

  4. RBC says:

    I am always amazed how 45 manages to somehow whether deliberate or not to divert attention from new bombshells in the Mueller investigation ie: new information that Paul Manafort had an additional meeting with a Russian agent.
    That speech was so restrained that I first thought 45 had been drugged

    • Lightpurple says:

      An additional meeting with a Russian agent during which he gave him campaign information.

      • Lightpurple says:

        ETA And Natalya Veselnitskaya was charged with obstruction of justice in a money-laundering case.

      • B n A fan says:

        According to the news the campaign polling is very detailed. what Manafort did by sharing that info, to pay off millions of dollars, was like selling very precious inside info. With that info in the Russians hands they targeted certain areas and certain group of people with false info about Hillary bringing down her numbers and hyping Don the Con’s #.

        I’m sure one of our better informed commentators here will explain better than I have what does this all means. It appears, to me, this piece of info may prove that the Dotard’s campaign DID Collude with Putin/Russia.

        I have not heard Don the Con screaming “no collusion” or mentioning this story that blow up last night.

    • Bryn says:

      What was with all the sniffing? It was creepy. He didn’t sound like he had a cold. Maybe those rumours of his snorting adderall are true

      • Beth says:

        His sniffing always drives me crazy. Sometimes it sounds like he’s taking a strange, deep breath through his clenched teeth, and sometimes it’s a sniff. I believe he could be a cocaine or Adderall snorter

      • B n A fan says:

        Whenever he has a big speech the sniffing is back. I remember during the debates with Hillary he was sniffing. Dr Howard Dean said he was on coke, he was told to take it back.

      • Tiffany :) says:

        Remember, the staffer from The Apprentice said he snorts addderall before reading, because he’s scared to read. His comments from months ago explain exactly what’s happening. (Link below)

        There were photos I saw on Twitter where his pupils were huge even in the bright lights, but it could have been photoshopped.

        https://www.complex.com/life/2018/12/ex-apprentice-staffer-trump-snorts-adderall-cant-read

      • Megan says:

        We recently got a 4K TV and Trump look terrifying at that resolution (as did Nancy and Chuck). I really want my old TV back.

      • Anastasia says:

        I saw a clip in which someone had taken out all his speech and only left the sniffs. It honestly seemed like he was having trouble taking air in.

    • Chrissy says:

      It sounded like he was. What was with all the loud sniffing?

      • Chrissy says:

        It sounded like he was. What was with all the loud sniffing? (Sorry Bryn, didn’t see you there)

    • Tiny Martian says:

      Aren’t there witnesses who say he was an Adderall sniffer years ago? I’m guessing he still is, but cocaine was the champagne of rich business men in the 80’s so that wouldn’t be at all surprising either.

      • Kitten says:

        I’ve always assumed that he started with Cocaine and then transitioned to Adderall. Not a big deal to be caught with Adderall, ya know?

    • Angela82 says:

      He was definitely drugged.

    • Sadezilla says:

      Don’t worry y’all, Sen. Lankford does not think this latest Manafort revelation was collusion because Manafort knew the guy he gave info to from before! The BS these people are allowed to spout is just off the charts. That makes no kind of sense, but people swallow it because of confirmation bias and hate, I guess?

      ETA: To be fair, I think his point, though badly expressed, was more that polling data isn’t secret. But as Sen. Menendez said, context is everything and no doubt Manafort knew the info was going straight to EZ-Putin and for what purpose.

      • Tiffany :) says:

        Wasn’t Manafort campaign chairman at the time he gave the polling information to the Russian? Isn’t it possible it was internal polling, and therefore, not public?

      • Sadezilla says:

        Tiffany, I don’t know the answer to that. The cites I’m seeing are from a NYT article, and I unsubscribed so I haven’t read the article.

      • Fluffy Princess says:

        @Tiffany — I think you are right and Manafort was still the campaign chairman at the time.

      • Megan says:

        Why would a Russian need to get publicly available data from Manafort? The documents say much of it was public polling, but some of it was campaign polling. Does anyone really believe that? Manafort is still lying as he tries to correct his lies.

      • Sadezilla says:

        True. It doesn’t make a lot of sense if it wasn’t publicly available.

  5. Darkladi says:

    Headline: Orange Pig-demon stamps it’s puny hooves & grunts and bellows on national television

    Fixed the title for you

  6. Feebee says:

    I’m so pissed at Trump I’m not going to talk about him. So I’m just going to say the tone of this article and your language has a sharper edge to it. Am I imagining it? It matches my mood perfectly so I’m here for it.

    • CheckThatPrivilege says:

      I, too, am so pissed at Trump. But my real fury is for McConnell and the GOP. The Republican party could have helped end this shutdown already, but no, they just keep enabling the destructive monster in our White House. Sometimes I think burning in hell is too sweet of a fate for Mitch McConnell.

      • Lilly (with the double-L) says:

        I’m with both of you. I didn’t watch the side show and reading this and comments (which are usually fire here) is all I’ll do. And, yes, complicit collaborators have a lot to answer for and my fury is often at #PresidentMiller too who works out so many of his issues through his office. The fact that he’s still standing says a lot about his lack of character and soul. He drives so much harm and hatred, albeit to a willing mob and cheeto.

      • Holly hobby says:

        Yes Myrtle McTurtle owns all of it. He could have reopened the govt by letting them vote on it. I think rules need to be changed.

  7. Jenns says:

    I didn’t watch either. I watched Chopped.

    But apparently Jared Kushner was making calls to senators yesterday claiming that speech would be a game changer and that public opinion would shift in favor of the wall. But from what I’m reading this morning, the recap is more about Trump’ sniffles instead of the wall.

    • Swack says:

      I didn’t watch either (can’t stand his voice for more than 30 seconds). I was binging CSI on Hulu and cross stitching. Every thing I read this morning say it was no where near a game changer. Also read when he had that off the record lunch with reporters that he didn’t want to do this and the border visit but was forced by Kelly Ann Conway and Sarah Huckabee Sanders.

      • Jenns says:

        Even Trump was smart enough to recognize that this was bad for him. He addressed the nation and no one cared. That’s his worst nightmare.

        I just think it’s hilarious that anyone is taking Jared seriously. He gave Trump the worst advice in regards to firing Comey, which has basically lead to the Mueller investigation.

      • Angela82 says:

        You can last 30 seconds lol? Impressive.

    • Kitten says:

      You should have tuned in for Chuck and Nancy. That was really the only part worth watching.

      • Janet says:

        I get that people hate Trump. But even those who hate him have to acknowledge that Chuck & Nancy were not good. They were just pathetic. Do the Dems have no one to help them? More of stuff like this and they will lose again.

    • Anastasia says:

      He did not say a SINGLE thing new. It was all stuff he’s said before. It was maybe 8 minutes, and was over before I knew it. He seemed drugged. Definitely NOT a game changer, LOL. People on Twitter and on the news networks were immediately wondering what the point of it was.

    • Maaite says:

      It sounds like the Kush took from the Kendall Jenner playbook with a hyped up announcement that led to…. Proactive. 😂

  8. Eric says:

    Emperor Zero:
    “There is…sniff…a security…sniff…and humanitarian…sniff…crisis along our southern…sniff…border. Sniff”

    Blah blah blah sniff sniff sniff

    Fat Orange Beast makes false claims after sniffing Adderall and still (STILL) remains very low energy.

    And EZ sent out an email asking for $5 for his coffers? Jesus, his followers are dumb as doorknobs.

    How’d you all like the Manafort info whereby he colluded with K Kilimnik regarding targeting specific states (WI, MI) with polling numbers? Didn’t Manafort meet with Velistinaya, indicted yesterday, at the TT with Donnie and Jared? Didn’t Jared work with Brad Parscale in Cambridge Analytica in determining who to target? Wasn’t there pinging from TT servers to Alpha Bank servers to CA via Betsy Devos’ business? Where’s Erik Prince? Where’s Rebecca Mercer?

    💥💥💥🔪🔪🔪💥💥💥

    • Jerusha says:

      Breaking news that Rosenstein is leaving shortly. Hope this means he knows Mueller has the goods and is nearing the endgame.

      • Diana says:

        Does this mean the mueller investigation findings will not be made public???

      • Jerusha says:

        I believe the Democrats who now control the House indicated they would open an investigation and call Mueller to testify if IQ45 tries to shut it down.

    • Tiffany :) says:

      You’re last paragraph contains so many loose ends that I can’t wait to see resolved. The picture is becoming clearer, I just really want it spelled out in bold fashion for the American people.

  9. Chrissy says:

    I wonder if the Orange Turd knows that his Secret Service protectors are also not being paid due to his idiotic shutdown. I’m hoping that they call in sick and leave the Traitor President unprotected for a few days. Given his paranoia, this might clue him into he needs to end this travesty if nothing else but for his own protection.

  10. Beth says:

    I met another clueless Trumpster last night, and I’m amazed how dumb my friends 50 year old brother was about ladders. I asked him how some wall, no matter what it is made of would be able to keep people with ladders from climbing over. He said it was going to be 30 feet tall, and nobody has or can get a ladder that tall. Lol. WTF? He must never have been to any store that sells ladders, because I’ve seen plenty that are a lot taller than 30 feet. I snapped at him with a lot of loud bad words, because that’s what happens when I’m with dumbass Trumpsters

    • Lightpurple says:

      I have several in my basement that are 40 feet tall.

      • Lady D says:

        Just out of curiosity, why do you have so many tall ladders? Construction work? Insulator? House painting business? You like to pick fruit?

      • Lightpurple says:

        They came with the house. They were used for painting, cleaning the gutters. The house is tall.

      • Beth says:

        We also had multiple ladders that were taller than 30 feet, and it was a common thing most people had. My family had a 3 story house, and tall ladders were needed for taking care of the roof, gutters, windows, paint, etc. I was shocked when that guy seriously believed nobody had ladders like that. Even if a 30 ladder couldn’t be bought at the store, or they couldn’t afford one, someone could actually make their own. Trumpsters are so dim

      • Lady D says:

        The tallest fire ladder in the US is 75′ long. How could it not occur to him that ladders are made so much taller than 30 feet. I’m assuming he’s a Trump supporter?

    • Tiffany :) says:

      Not to mention tunnels!

      A wall is such a waste of money. It would be much better spent improving technology at legal ports of entry (where most drugs come in) and using drones, etc. for the remote areas of the border. Most undocumented migrants are here because they overstayed visas. If he actually cared about the cause he claims to champion, he’d address the root cause. This is just a sideshow and he’s a sad clown.

    • Anastasia says:

      Not even to mention the fact that MOST people who are here illegally just overstayed their work or study visa and came here BY AIR.

      The dumb hurts with these people.

    • Pamela says:

      Honestly, even if taller ladders were NOT readily available (they are, but just saying…), people that are desperate to come here, would find a way. They would build them themselves, or find other ways. What a dumb reason to believe the wall would keep people out. Sigh.

    • Katie Keen says:

      Lmao, I wonder what he will say when you ask him about airplanes.

      “Airplanes? I’ve never seen an airplane that could fly over a wall.”

  11. Mabs A'Mabbin says:

    ‘This is like a Jean-Paul Sartre story by way of the Coen Brothers.’ Brilliant merge to be sure, but not this crowd. These people are playing at the level where Freddy got fingered.

  12. Eyfalia says:

    Please tell me something, why is he still your President???

    Do you know that they are blackmailing Europe concerning North Stream II. They will sanction the companies building it, if they don’t stop and Europe buys gas in the US.

    The US-ambassador in Berlin, with a lovely SS-haircut, said, he will support the ultra right parties in Europe and especially Germany to gain power and Steve Bannon tours Europe and wants to influence the European election.

    The US reeducated the Germans for decades about them being nasty and being ex-Nazis. And now they want to tell us, that Nazis are the best you can get??? They definitely choose the wrong country for that.

    Please build a wall around the whole of the US. Nobody gets in and NOBODY GETS OUT!

    • Crowhood says:

      It is shockingly not as easy as you would think to remove him from office. This is actually a good thing in the context of American government because if it were easier, opposition parties would spend all their time trying to remove a president from office. I’m sorry for our country’s embarrassing moment in history, we have had many to be sure, but if it’s any consolidation- the majority of us are equally as horrified each day of his reign.

    • Katie Keen says:

      Basically, our entire country is being held hostage by the morally deficient. And because they are morally deficient, they will not use the mechanisms available to remove Trump from power.

  13. Incredulous says:

    Trump lied a bunch, sniffed about equal and had low energy problems reading his autocue. Plus he started off “I’m ahspeaking to you” like the world’s most repellent Mario. Nothing new except the levels of his tantrum today, I expect.

    • Esmom says:

      Lol. I didn’t watch but thank you for that “world’s most repellent Mario” description. I can hear it in my mind perfectly.

      I’m simply out of words regarding this faux crisis.

    • Anastasia says:

      It was almost like he said “misspeaking” to you, which cracked me up. Yep, you sure are.

      The man cannot read.

  14. Digital Unicorn says:

    When the orange sh!t storm of his Presidency is over – the US law makers need to make ammendments to the Constitution to either add mechanisms to call another election or to the 25th making it easier to get rid of Presidents even if they have the courts and 3 branches under their control.

  15. Jerusha says:

    I finished watching High Fidelity while that crap was on. The networks that start boycotting Shithead’s rallies(that’s what they really are)will earn my everlasting loyalty.
    I did see on twitter that Fox’s Shep factchecked him and pointed out all the lies. Good for him.

  16. OliviaC says:

    As a Canadian – I don’t know how you Americans do it. We think of you every day, and hope that you will get out from under this small man with even smaller ideas.
    We are not perfect up here, we know that, we have made many of the same mistakes, but I will say it is nice not to have the leader of our country spewing hate and lies every chance he gets.
    Again, I don’t know how you do it… maybe watching Tennis is the answer!

    • Eric says:

      OliviaC:
      Plus lots and lots of alcohol. Make America Drink Again!

    • OriginalLala says:

      As a Canadian, I think of all the sane rational Americans and those in the line of fire of Bigly’s awful policies and hope ya’ll can keep the pressure and protesting up. But also, as a Canadian, I am getting very worried about our federal election in the fall…..

      • Lady D says:

        I saw a man on the news last night speaking about the yellow vest protesters. He said if “Trudeau doesn’t smarten/straighten up, he’s going to get a bullet to the head” We are right to be worried.

      • Erinn says:

        Oh god, yes. I see more and more hate stirring up here. The one thing that might save us is that I don’t think a lot of the people I personally know that are getting that way are the kind of people who are going to rush out to vote. I saw a 22 year old girl bitter that she went on stress leave (because office environments are horrible), quit her office job(because she can’t stand working in an office) , and went back to school for OFFICE admin with now job. She had to fight to get EI for this – which, yeah. I mean, she’s not the person who needs it the most and I think she SHOULD have to jump through hoops given her actions. But she’s outraged over it. And she’s jumped on the “Trudeau cares more about immigrants than he does our people!” because again – she got the EI, but had to fight for it. And now she’s sharing a photo of DT with ““Immigration is a privilege, not a right, and the safety of our citizens must always come first,” ” written all over it.

        The biggest dumbasses around here that jumped on the DT train of thought are the guys that leave atlantic Canada for the big oil jobs out west. Or the guys who expect to not have a skill or trade or degree or ANYTHING setting them apart but still make a crazy ton of money. Like they’re owed wealth for being incredibly unremarkable. And the whole time they do nothing to better themselves and act like little punks, they rip on the people who NEED wellfare or who NEED asylum because in their pathetic little minds they’re more deserving while doing nothing than someone who is struggling and trying everything they can to make ends meet.

      • Puravidacostarica says:

        This, Erinn. So this. The white entitlement hate that is spewing out of Canada and Australia this past year or so has been mind-boggling. Scary indeed. Almost like a Muppets routine.

  17. Robot Dog says:

    Is that legal? The asking for money for the wall part? Or did Mr. Bigly Stable Genius just commit a crime on national television?

    • Who ARE these people? says:

      There was an email afterward.

      • boredblond says:

        Evidently there were two..the first saying send money to build a wall if you are a patriot..and later one chastising people for not coughing up the $..always the con man selling snake oil. I have no sympathy for his marks..anyone on his supporter list deserves to be taken for everything they have.

      • Sinequanon313 says:

        Link to the Trump email that went out last night after his televised address:
        https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/trump-campaign-fundraises-off-of-oval-office-address

        I was watching Lawrence O’ Donnell last night when he broke the news about this email (and its subsequent follow up). Trump asked supporters at the end of the email: “Please make a special contribution of $5 by 9 PM EST to our Official Secure the Border Fund to have your name sent to me after my speech.”

        O’ Donnell also clarified that the “Official Secure the Border Fund” is not official at all, nor is it a fund to secure the border. Any donations made to this “fund” will actually go to Trump’s re-election fund.

        ETA: After clicking on the link to the donation page (https://secure.donaldjtrump.com/official-secure-the-border-fund), I saw this “Please make a special contribution in the next FIVE MINUTES to our Official Secure the Border Fund to add your name to the President’s list.” However, way down on the bottom of the page, in very fine (and faint) print is this:

        “Contributions to Donald J. Trump for President, Inc. are not tax deductible for federal income tax purposes. Contributions from corporations, labor unions, federal contractors, and foreign nationals are prohibited.

        By providing your phone number, you are consenting to receive calls and SMS/MMS msgs, including autodialed and automated calls and texts, to that number from Donald J. Trump for President, Inc. Msg&data rates may apply. Terms & conditions/privacy policy apply sms-terms.com/88022.

        Mail: To contribute by mail, please send a personal check made payable to the “Donald J. Trump for President, Inc.” to:

        Donald J. Trump President, Inc
        C/O Trump Tower
        725 5th Avenue
        New York, NY 10022

        Please include your full name, address, email address, occupation and employer in the envelope.”

        F-ing asshole.

      • Lady D says:

        Okay, I have to ask, why do they need your occupation and employer?

    • Swack says:

      What happened to this:

      “US Air Force veteran Brian Kolfage set up a GoFundMe campaign on Monday asking for supporters to pitch in to pay for the wall. In its first 72 hours, the campaign received more than $5 million in donations. A week later, on December 24, 2018, the campaign had raised more than $16 million. ”

      Because I also read this:

      “Donating the money directly to the Department of Homeland Security would require approval from Congress, as laid out in a policy directive in 2008. It cites a law that says “gifts or donations of services or property of or for the Department may not be accepted, used, or disposed of unless specifically permitted in advance” by Congress.”

      So would they be able to use any of the money donated via the email for the wall specifically?

      • Fluffy Princess says:

        @Swack – The shortest answer is: “No.”
        When you give or donate money to the US Government, you cannot specify where you want that money to go. You donate the money, and Congress decides how to use that money. The end.

        Soooooo once again, Bigly’s followers were conned by another con man.

  18. Karen says:

    I copied this quote from a commenter on a newspaper article.this is the real story

    “I live on the border, there’s already a “wall” for several miles, but what people ignorant enough to think it would happen don’t realize is that even if they tried to wall the entire border off it would be impossible. All along the border there is privately owned land and other areas where a “wall” just can’t be placed. All of us that live on the border just laugh at the stupidity of the idea of spending millions and millions on something useless. It’s really just a ploy from the orange clown to get his racist base to keep supporting him and entertained. If there was any genuine interest from the orange bufoon to help border security he would be investing in technology or better solutions. All of us on the border all knew from the beginning it would never happen, it’s been fun to watch all those gullible enough to believe it would though 🤣🤣🤣

    • Swack says:

      There’s been talk of using eminent domain to obtain the private property that would have the wall built on it.

      • Anastasia says:

        HHAHAHAHAHAHA I would LOVE to see him try to take private lands from the ranchers in south Texas. Oh please let him start a fight with them. HE. WILL. LOSE.

        The entire valley in Texas is blue, btw. The wealthy ranchers might be Republicans, but when it comes to their land, they will fight anyone anytime to keep it.

    • Anna says:

      Oh my god, this brilliant. I wish there was a like button on here. xx

  19. aang says:

    I watched Stormy Daniels fold her laundry live on Instagram while the “speech” was happening. I really did.

  20. Lightpurple says:

    FORRESTS! He’s tweeting about raking FORRESTS! Apparently, Forrest Whittaker is at fault for everything!

    I just can’t!

    • Beth says:

      Forrest Trump is heartless to threaten California, especially when the forests are mainly federal, not state government responsibility. Rake America Great Again

  21. Cay says:

    I skipped Trump’s speech and finally got around to watching the Fred Rogers documentary “Won’t You Be My Neighbor?” and in one of the first episodes of “Mister Rogers’ Neighborhood,” King Friday the 13th was building a wall around the kingdom to protect them from change. Crazy.

  22. Kitten says:

    Rosenstein out. I really hope this means that he knows the Mueller investigation is safe and that it will be dropping soon. Sigh.

    • Esmom says:

      Oh, wow, it’s so hard to keep up with everything. Thanks for the update, off to read more news. Fingers crossed that something is dropping soon. Sigh is right.

    • Fluffy Princess says:

      I know, right? I hope Mueller is done-done or mostly done. BUT, he just got another six month extension on his Grand Jury. . .

      BUT, let’s have faith. Mueller has proven to be a master at this “game.” Rosenstein is said to be out in a few weeks — coincidentally the SAME time Mueller is expected to drop his report.

      White House trying to use executive privilege to block it from being publicly released is a useless task.

      As @Jerusha said, “I believe the Democrats who now control the House indicated they would open an investigation and call Mueller to testify if IQ45 tries to shut it down.”

      House Democrats can call Mueller to testify–not just about questions they have, but they can ask him to read his entire report to them — and it will be recorded in the congressional record, and they can televise it, too. :-D! Burn, Bigly, Burn!

      • Kitten says:

        I know…the 6 months extension has a tad worried, too. And yes, having control of the House is definitely a source of comfort and reassurance these days. Thanks for the reminder 😉

      • Tiffany :) says:

        From what I understand, congress will know the Mueller findings one way or the other if there are indictments. If Mueller recommends indictments, and the acting AG doesn’t agree to move forward with those indictments, Mueller has to send reports to Congress stating what the recommendations were. The AG has to send reports stating why they decided against the the recommendations. So either they go along with Mueller’s indictments and all is revealed, or they have to tell congress why they didn’t and all is revealed to congress.

        Of course, this administration has turned its nose up at things they “have” to do before, so they may try it again. I do think that the findings will eventually see the light of day.

  23. Patrizio says:

    Until the markets go south – and stay there, we are gonna be stuck with this fool. It’s all about money. Also, his base doesn’t give a shit about anything except the Supreme Court and overturning Roe vs Wade. I cannot wait to see if the shutdown will affect food stamps- you may see his base bitching then- but it will be how it’s the Dems fault! Thanks for this outlet- if you would have told me a site called Celebitchy would have such good commentary- Kaiser- never would have believed it, the Trumpians haven’t found the comment section either- this is my only oasis from the madness!

    • Kitten says:

      There have always been Trumpers lurking around here, trying to comment but rarely getting through the stellar Mod Gods that watch over the site.

      And ITA that it’s so nice to be able to come to a troll-free forum like this one.

    • Beth says:

      It looks like food stamps will be affected by this shutdown, but I’m sure this wouldn’t be enough for his diehard supporters to wake up even if they go hungry. The man baby just threw a hissyfit and stormed out of today’s meeting, so we’re getting no where near fixing the shutdown. I’d lose my mind if I couldn’t come here and talk about Trump with people who I know are on my side

    • Lady D says:

      Kaiser is brilliant when it comes to political dialogue.

  24. nikzilla says:

    I missed the new episode of FBI because of this idiot. SMH

  25. maddie says:

    i watched friends rerun instead.

    i can’t believe the stupid media capitulated. they wouldn’t let obama address the nation cause it was too political, but that s*#t was ok?

    and the donations for the wall is ridiculous. when you give money to the government, you can’t tell them what to do with it. you can’t put strings attached to the money. and email that the dotard sent out is just lining his pockets, it’s not going anywhere near the govt.

  26. HeyThere! says:

    Omg I can’t take YEARS worth of daily updates of everything trump. I literally can’t deal with that. I’ll probably go radio silent and refuse TV and most internet. Please everyone go out and vote against him. I beg you. My loca news is even daily trump news and it gets so old.

  27. Anare says:

    I didn’t watch. I am convinced that every word out of his mouth is a lie so why should I waste my time. Plus the sight and sound of him makes me sick and stabby. I was cozied up on my recliner watching Brokeback Mountain. I had never seen the whole movie start to finish. Beautiful tragic film. Later saw pic of Trump squinting into the camera trying to read the TelePrompTer. He looked sweaty and scared. What a POS!

  28. Raina says:

    LMFAO !!!!!!!
    Forrest Trump is about to run to the wall and declare a state of emergency 🤣🤣🤣🤣
    He’s so freaked out his great negotiating skills (see: all bankruptcy meetings, Trump University, sexual misconduct, derangement, delusional lies, collusion, lack of any form of humanity) aren’t working, that he’s going to lose the 4 supporters he has left, that he and his road kill hair is going to get to the border and do what exactly….?? Stand there eating K.F.C. yelling at passing squirrels? Throw his dumbass tantrum, stomping his bone-spur feet and holding his full of shyt Pussy grabbing breath?
    Putin is going to be VERY disappointed, all the while laughing at dumb Americans.
    It’s THIS guy who’s a punch line.
    He thinks (I use this term loosely) that he will run 2020. LOL. He sure Will run, Forrest, in tje court yard of a prison with the jumpsuit matching his ugly face.
    Even Ivanka will break up with him.

    Gonna enjoy this. Times up senile creep of pure evil.