Rudy Giuliani: ‘I never said there was no collusion between the campaign’


United States president Donald J. Trump participates in the White House Sports and Fitness Day at the White House

I’ve been wondering, during this almost month-long government shutdown, if Donald Trump thinks that by shutting down the government, it’s possible he was shutting down the Mueller investigation. Like, that might be the way his little pea brain works. And he’s exactly the kind of moron who would shut down the American government for petty, personal reasons like “trying to hamper an investigation into his treason.” Well, Sexual Dynamite Mueller is still working and still doing things. And I feel like Trump’s clown-like legal team has been getting some hot tips about what Mueller is up to. That might be one explanation for this:

President Trump’s personal attorney, Rudy Giuliani, said Wednesday that he “never said there was no collusion” between the Trump campaign and Russia, claiming only that Trump himself was not involved in collusion.

“I never said there was no collusion between the campaign. Or between people in the campaign,” Giuliani said on CNN’s “Cuomo Prime Time,” after host Chris Cuomo said it was false to suggest there was no collusion between Trump’s presidential campaign and the Kremlin. Giuliani added that he has only said Trump, rather than his campaign, did not collude with the Russians.

“There is not a single bit of evidence the president of the United States committed the only crime you could commit here, conspiring with the Russians to hack the [Democratic National Committee],” Giuliani said. “The president did not collude with the Russians,” he added. Giuliani added that if “the collusion happened, it happened a long time ago.”

“It’s not provable because it never happened. … I’m telling you there’s no chance it happened,” he added.

[From The Hill]

I’ll say what I always say about Rudy Giuliani: he is possibly the worst legal counsel a person could ever have. I get that Rudy isn’t really one of Trump’s “lawyers,” and that Rudy’s job is just going on TV and saying whatever bullsh-t comes to mind. He’s Trump’s TeeVee Lawyah, because Trump loves to see people talk about him on the teevee. But seriously, I can’t even come up with a proper list for all of the excuses and explanations for collusion. All of these motherf–kers were screaming “NO COLLUSION” and then Rudy is like “I never said there was no collusion but there was no collusion and there might have been collusion but it wasn’t the president, and you can’t prove collusion.” What.

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  1. Lightpurple says:

    Meanwhile, four Americans were killed by the Islamic State in Syria yesterday, our Vice President chose to ignore it and lie, claiming that ISIS is no more, while the Tweeter in Chief has been silent.

    • Lightpurple says:

      No reaction to Pelosi’s brilliant move on the State of the Union either, although Steve Scalise seems to be operating under some sort of hallucination that he is still in power. Scalise can invite Trump to the Rayburn Office building but not any of the rooms in the Capitol. Pelosi controls the Capitol.

      • Christin says:

        Kennedy was also saying that he was welcome to come to “the Senate” if mean ole Nancy wouldn’t invite him to the House.

      • Lightpurple says:

        Both Houses of Congress have to agree for the President to set foot in the building. Nancy owns the building. Nancy says no. Kennedy can invite him to one of the Senate office buildings. These guys don’t get that they lost and that a competent, experienced woman is in charge.

      • Kitten says:

        Pelosi has been brilliant on so many levels since she got the speakership. I’m really proud of how strong she’s been in the face of these asshole Rethuglicans and their crazy-ass constituents who have harassed and stalked her, even breaching the wall at her private residence. F*cking psychos.

        Also, I love what AOC and the freshmen class did by marching to Mitch’s office. I LOVE that AOC was on camera, demanding to know where Mitch is.

        This is the Democratic party that makes me happy I voted for them. Keep fighting, stay strong, NO F*CKING WALL.

      • Tiffany :) says:

        I’m in awe of Pelosi. I’m really liking her strategy so far. It gives me hope for the tumultuous year ahead!

        I did like that AOC made it clear Mitch was missing. Complicit Turtle needs to be held accountable.

    • B n A fan says:

      Did Don the Con mentioned the four murdered solders, cricket. The Vice President is a poor excuse for a Christian. Heaven help us from this disaster.

      • Jan90067 says:

        Not a word. And State run Propaganda TV, Faux News, was talking about 4 dead in BENGAZI ‘cos HILLARY!!!!!

        UN-F**KING BELIEVABLE!!!!

    • pottymouth pup says:

      believe it or not, the RWNJ are blaming the deaths on Hillary Clinton & Benghazi

    • Tiffany :) says:

      Pence needs to be beat over the head with the inappropriate nature of his comments yesterday. Claiming that ISIS is defeated when they just committed a terrorist attack and killed our service members is insulting and a dangerous attempt to re-write history. Shame on him x 100000.

    • hogtowngooner says:

      It’s fine because they “support the troops” by standing for the national anthem. /s

      • ladytron2000 says:

        Yes, that’s a great way to support the service men & women putting their lives at risk every day from these twits in power.

  2. Eric says:

    Goalposts changed to wickets and moved to the UK.

    So…
    Either you believe that Emperor Zero didn’t know his own campaign was colluding with Russians which makes him incompetent to fulfill his duties as *president…
    Or…
    EZ directed the entire conspiracy and is benefitting from a position he gained unlawfully.

    23+ hours of silence from EZ means Mueller’s about to drop a nice one for the US.

    • Lightpurple says:

      Nagini has been silent too.

    • Original T.C. says:

      Next up, Trump or his lawyer’s will pull an OJ “if I did it” type interview or statement. And Kelly Anne will say that she knew he was a traitor the whole time that is why she asked her husband to start tweeting against Emperor Zero.

    • Christin says:

      To believe the former means disregarding the fact of how small his campaign was. It was only a very few people involved, similar to how his business organization is supposedly more like a Mom and Pop operation.

      However, I’m sure there will be those willing to ignore facts and suddenly claim the campaign was a huge operation (bigliest ever!) and how could the candidate know such things?

    • Snappyfish says:

      Nice summation! I can’t with this idiot. How corrupt must you be to carry water for such a Treasonous POS.

    • pottymouth pup says:

      The conspiracy theory (and lack of plausible deniability for Trump) all ties together in a pretty little bow with the fact that the campaign ordered the RNC to change the party platform in favor of a softer stance (more favorable to Russia) on Ukraine

      https://www.npr.org/2017/12/04/568310790/2016-rnc-delegate-trump-directed-change-to-party-platform-on-ukraine-support

    • Tiffany :) says:

      “EZ directed the entire conspiracy and is benefitting from a position he gained unlawfully.”

      The biggest question for me is what consequences are appropriate for this kind of crime? Will it be enough to just remove him from office? Indict him after he leaves? What about all of the decisions and appointments made while in office illegitimately? How are we going to sort out all of the fallout from this 1 enormous crime?

  3. RBC says:

    What does Rudy have on 45 to continue to have him as his legal representative ? He has fired people for less. This guy is just incompetent.

    • Maya says:

      This guy is the distraction Trump uses to divert attention from his crimes.

      His supporters & the media fall for it every single time.

      • Megan says:

        Rudy is the message tester. His job is to float new messages on Fox and CNN to see how they play with the base and the opposition. He is the perfect vehicle for it because he is so obviously crazy it’s easy to write off what he says as blather.

    • Snowflake says:

      Oh, God, yes he is incompetent. After 9/11, I thought he was a great guy, did a great job. Then he started doing interviews. Never mind, he’s an idiot.

      Comey worked with Rudy, i read it in his book. The impression I came away with was that Rudy was not very well liked, very cocky and arrogant. And maybe took credit for other people’s work sometimes

      • B n A fan says:

        He’s not an idiot, he’s just a compromised crook.

      • Kitten says:

        YES. I thought the same about Giuliani post 9/11. As soon as I started to hear him talk I realized that he was a moron and a pretty terrible person. Looking back, I’m embarrassed that I ever thought for a SECOND that he cared about this country.

      • Lady D says:

        I watched him give part of a speech pre 911, and thought he was an idiot. Then the tragedy happened and Giuliani became a hero. I remember feeling bad about thinking he was a incompetent and crooked politician. He has gone from zero to hero back to zero again. Any idea if he’s an alcoholic? He reminds me of a few people.

    • B n A fan says:

      He lies more than more respected lawyers. Rudy is a lying disgrace, anyway, what do we expect he married his cousin.

  4. Megan says:

    The botched Manafort redaction proves collusion with the campaign. I’m convinced the shutdown is to distract from the Mueller investigation because Trump knows if he builds that wall he he loses his best racist talking point.

    • Kitten says:

      Absolutely, unequivocally. The insistent cries of “no collusion!” will fall on deaf ears from now on.

    • Tiffany :) says:

      I agree. I side-eye all of the blunders anymore and wonder what they are trying to distract us from. Rudy is a walking blunder, so why deploy him at this moment?

  5. Darkladi says:

    Dear Heart Attack Fairy,

    Get back to work. NOW.

  6. Jerusha says:

    I never understood why Ghouliani was called America’s Mayor after 9/11. He did some photo ops, IIRC. Lindsey, Koch, Dinkins would have done just as much, if not more. Fiorello La Guardia would have helped clear debris, imo. Any New Yorkers here can correct me, if necessary, but I never saw him as anything more than an opportunist.

    • Birdix says:

      As someone who lived downtown and whose husband was there st the WTC, Giuliani was an anchor in a terrifying moment. No one knew where the president was, no one knew what was going to happen next, and in that moment, he offered reassurance that someone was in charge and that NYers would pull together.
      It boggles my mind how quickly he wasted all that goodwill. He’s truly awful, just had one great moment.

      • Kitten says:

        I completely, 100% get it. I’m a Bostonian, but I felt the same way about Giuliani post 9/11. Hard to believe I ever felt like that even for a minute, given how long I’ve detested this man.

        FWIW, I also felt that way about Commissioner Evans after the marathon bombing here in Boston. But since I’ve become more involved with BLM, I’ve learned what a failure Evans has been to the black community and now I’m just happy that the old man is retired.

        You know, some events are so catastrophically life-changing that they transcend politics. I think it’s completely normal in a time of extreme vulnerability and fear to turn to our elected officals for reassurance and comfort. In the wake of 9/11′s horrific aftermath, so many of us just wanted someone to tell us that we will be ok. Looking back, Giuliani could have been anyone. It wasn’t really about HIM, it was about NYC leadership reassuring a shaken country.

      • Jerusha says:

        Thanks for the input. That must have been a beyond terrifying time. I was standing in my library office with about six other teachers watching the events as they happened. Our mouths were hanging open IIRC.
        I didn’t like RG before, really detest him now, but I’ll cut him slack for that time. I’m glad his political ambitions faltered, though:

  7. minx says:

    I didn’t listen to it, but I read he even claimed that Trump has never said there was no collusion. Which is hilarious.

  8. Elisabeth says:

    What a cluster#$%^

  9. B n A fan says:

    Don the Con and his gang of liars and thieves, Rudy, the Vice President, his children and everyone in his administration lies as easily as we breath air. Heaven help us when they are finished. Michael Cohen was reported to say that they were paying someone to rig the Polls in Don the Con favor. The entire bunch from the president down, fish rots from the head, are gangsters, dispictable human beings. They sold out our country for money and fame.

  10. Mabs A'Mabbin says:

    Rudy’s Elmer Fudd.

    • Rice says:

      Gasp! Bite your tongue! Elmer is more coherent and intelligent than Matflop. Granted, he’s yet to catch that wascally wabbit.

  11. Goldengirlslover34 says:

    Goodness! The absurdity! I was speaking to some colleagues who litigate about whether we we would ever represent Trump or someone like him. In law, there are clients you have you don’t necessarily like. However, we all agreed that Trump was a different animal. He obviously doesn’t listen to his legal team which makes it harder for them to do their job. Imagine trying to do your job and dum-dum Giuliani appears on television with this narrative. In high profile cases the legal team wants to be able to control the narrative. However, Trump thinks everything is a damn stage and wants to do what he wants. This makes it harder for any lawyer to do their job. I wouldn’t be able to handle it.

    • Giddy says:

      There were reports last week that 17 lawyers were added to Trump’s legal team! 17! That’s just insane. And the American public is paying them.

  12. Beth says:

    I love watching Chris Cuomo and the expressions on his face whenever Trump surrogates make those ridiculous comments. You just admitted the Trump campaign was guilty of collusion with the Russians, Rude Rudy!

  13. PhillyGal says:

    There has got to be something seriously wrong with Rudy, if he really doesn’t realize how ignorant he sounds every time he opens his mouth.

  14. Lightpurple says:

    And he’s awake! Does he tweet about the 4 dead in Syria? NO! This is what our President says to us this morning, cut and pasted from his Twitter feed.

    “The Left has become totally unhinged. They no longer care what is Right for our Countrty!”

    Any guesses as to what “countrty” means?

    • Eric says:

      Countrty
      Covfefe
      Smocking
      Hamberders

      It’s all starting to make sense!

      Mueller is coming

    • Kitten says:

      Oh man. I was hoping the silence would continue. I’m so much happier when I’m not subject to his grammatically-challenged, divisive Twitter rants.

  15. Cay says:

    In other news, Cohen paid a “tech company” tens of thousands of dollars to rig online polls in favor of Trump. Turns out that “tech company” is run by an “employee” of Liberty University. It’s making even more sense now why Jerry Falwell, Jr. just said that there would be nothing Trump could do to lose his support and the support of their university. Man, this corruption runs deep.

    • Chrissy says:

      How I’d love to see Falwell thrown in jail for conspiracy. These people are all scum. Funny how even so-called Evangelical preachers are even in on the biggest con America has seen in a long time and all for access to the more immoral Orange Turd. Jesus weeps……

      • Jerusha says:

        Sinclair Lewis wrote Elmer Gantry in 1927. Evangelical movement has been filled with shyster preachers forever. Jimmie Swaggert, Jim Bakker, Oral Roberts, Falwell Sr. and Jr., etc. I’m not surprised at all.

    • Megan says:

      I have been saying for ages that Falwell Jr is in the pocket of Russia. Falwell and the NRA were Russia’s ticket into the RNC. At this point, it seems pretty clear the republicans are all owned by Russia. It’s really quite terrifying.

  16. Jay says:

    I’m guessing rudy has a mole at the FBI and knows what is about to come down. This statement, to me, indicates that there were senior members of the campaign who did actively collude with Russia, and trump is going to try the plausible deniability route, saying he didn’t know what they were up to. Which at best means serious incompetence. And while he may or may not get away with that defense legally, I think the majority of Americans will be able to see the truth. And if they still choose to vote for him, then the country cannot be saved.

    • Fluffy Princess says:

      Remember right before the election that Rudy “hinted” that he had inside at the NY FBI and something about Hillary was coming down soon. Then, Comey released the letter a few days later. . .

      There is a mole in there.

  17. adastraperaspera says:

    I’m beyond disgusted that the traitorous liar Giuliani continues to be booked on national news shows! Giving him that stage lends an air of legitimacy to his nonsense. The circus goes on, and corporate media just keeps the camera rolling. Zero accountability. I’m sick of it, and I refuse to watch.

    • Fluffy Princess says:

      I refuse to watch too. The news could do SO much to keep the fire under Congressional stooges and the Orange Menace, but do they? NOPE. Ratings=$$$

      “Tune in today to hear all the crazy things So and so said!! Also, is today the day Mueller gets fired?”

      Maybe if they did their job as the 4th estate we wouldn’t be in this position.

  18. JP says:

    I work in the legal industry….and Giuliani’s behavior as an attorney is just astounding. This is so beyond how an attorney is expected to behave and represent a client (I get that he’s out there for PR mostly, but he’s still doing so while legally representing a client). And I love that his former firm, Greenberg Traurig, put out a statement a while back distancing itself from his circus act. It speaks volumes that they would go to that length to ensure the public understands he is not associated with them and is, essentially, going off the rails. I can’t underscore enough how atypical and unprofessional his conduct is.

  19. Meg says:

    this is the current state of America? i have experience with abusive relationships with people suffering from naracssitic personality disorder and one of the excuses they use is, ‘that didn’t happen. if it did it’s not my fault. it’s not that big of a deal, you’re just too sensitive.’ this sounds like what Rudy is trying to pull here. remember when so many thought so highly of him after 9/11? what he hell happened to him? i’m genuinely curious how we will survive and what will be come of us after this mess

  20. JRenee says:

    Nancy was scheduled to travel out of the country on official duties, he postponed the trip and said she could fly commercially if she wanted to go..I think it was the US delegation trip to Davos summit, super petty!!!!!

  21. A says:

    Good lord, the way this whole thing has evolved over the past couple of years is eye-opening. Rudy Giuliani went from, “There is no collusion, period!” to “Alright, there might have been some collusion between very very very very very low level staffers in the Trump campaign, but that’s not anything SIGNIFICANT because they were nobodies!” to “Okay so there WAS collusion but it wasn’t TRUMP specifically, it was just the people who were in his campaign who tried to get him elected!”

    He’s being a slimy git here, moving his words around to make it seem like he’s anything less of a liar, and it’s disgusting.

  22. Molly says:

    It will be fascinating to see where we all are 10 yrs from now. History has its eye on all of them.

  23. Anare says:

    Mueller was waiting for the midterm elections before he finished up his investigation. So we have a solid Speaker of the House now Mr. Mueller. Go ahead and unleash the hounds!😀✌️

  24. Andrea says:

    Does anyone else find Rudy’s use of the phrase “President of the United States, ” rather than using Trump’s name interesting?
    It suggests to me that Rudy is distinguishing Trump’s involvement before he was elected and after.
    So, Trump the civilian may have colluded, but Trump the President did not.
    Which doesn’t change much, because the allegation is regarding interference during the election process, not after.
    On the other hand, I’m probably giving Rudy too much intellectual credit. He seems quite daft.