Felicity Huffman & Lori Loughlin haven’t ‘fully grasped the possibility of prison time’

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Raise your hand if you honestly believe Lori Loughlin or Felicity Huffman will end up going to prison. Now raise your hand if you think that when everything shakes out, Felicity will get next to nothing and Lori and her husband will be punished with little more than a fine and some community service. Yes, as I thought: few of us believe there will be any kind of real justice carried out on these SAT Beckys. Us Weekly claims that Lori and Felicity haven’t even grasped the “possibility of prison time,” which is a good thing because they probably won’t get any.

The college admissions scandal marks a steep fall from grace for two women who made careers out of playing relatable moms: Full House’s Lori Loughlin and Desperate Housewives’ Felicity Huffman.

“Neither actress knew this would become so serious,” a Huffman source says exclusively in the new issue of Us Weekly. “They haven’t fully grasped the extent of their alleged crimes or the possibility of prison time.”

Loughlin, 54, and Huffman, 56, were among the 50 people who were charged on March 12 in connection with the alleged nationwide scam that involved faking students’ test scores and bribing college officials. Many of those indicted — including the two actresses and Loughlin’s husband, Mossimo Giannulli, but not Huffman’s spouse, William H. Macy, as she was the one who allegedly arranged a $15,000 payment to boost their 18-year-old daughter Sofia’s SAT score — have been accused of funneling money through a bogus charity run by businessman William Rick Singer.

[From Us Weekly]

I think Felicity’s wakeup call was literally locked-and-loaded FBI agents knocking on her door one morning, waking her up and taking her into custody. Felicity is taking this sh-t seriously, and so far there’s been no leaking from her camp. I tend to believe she knows how serious this is and how bad it could get… even though very little will likely happen to her, an affluent white woman in Hollywood. Lori Loughlin is the one we should keep our eye on, she and her husband and their daughters. They’re the messy ones and their fraud was a lot more intensive and expensive, and it involved more people. We’ll see though. I’m still thinking that these SAT Beckys will wind up crying on cue and walking away with a slap on the wrist.

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  1. Rapunzel says:

    Their careers are ruined, Mossimo and Macy’s too. Nobody will want to be associated with these tutors for fear of looking like cheaters themselves. Their entitlement might not get them in prison but it sure is hell’s going to harm their bottom line .

    • Swack says:

      In the long run I doubt it will hit their bottom line. All will be forgiven.

      • mtam says:

        Totally agree. And i think with enough time people will afford them their sympathies, especially their rich, privileged, and hollywood peers.

      • Chaine says:

        Exactly. If Louis CK is back playing clubs, pretty sure Lori Loughlin will make be making a comeback in a tasteful Lifetime movie in about 18 months time.

      • jan90067 says:

        Nah… no “careers ruined” for them. There will be a bit of blustering; wouldn’t surprise me if a LOT of Hollywood parents aren’t trying to cover their OWN tracks now. LL is not a “top tier” actress, like FH, so she may have trouble finding work again. I expect to see FH working w/in 12-16 mos. after this is settled. They won’t be doing press junkets though, not for a lonnnnnng time.

        But as far as Huffman and Loughlin and husband, I think there will be a BIG fine, PROBATION, and some community service. And that’d be it…. for THAT part.

        Then comes the IRS… they will exact THEIR pound of flesh in additional fines and such.

      • Erinn says:

        I really don’t think Macy will see much from this. He’s got a solid career, they technically haven’t charged him, whether or not he was involved. He’s got the plausible deniability. And it’s not like his brand is based on playing squeeky clean characters the way Loughlin’s is. He’s amazing on Shameless. I suspect Huffman will have a stutter in her career briefly, but there will be a redemption PR push after a ‘sufficient’ time has passed. Loughlin is the one I suspect will take the brunt of it, and honestly? I’m not super upset about it.

        I feel like her target audience is the wholesome, ‘regular woman’ who’s ‘just like you’ kind of soccer mom type. And the idea of 500k+ being spent on this is going to be a major sticking point, I think. Mossimo should feel the same kind of backlash, but while his brand is pretty well known, I don’t think most people could recognize him. His brand is bigger than his persona if that makes sense.

      • PippiLongdivision says:

        They’ll probably option their own stories and play themselves in the movie(s).

      • Aren says:

        Louis CK is not back to playing clubs though. He sneaks into other people’s shows unannounced, and in places nobody knows the name of, etc.
        I still want to see who wants to hire him openly.

      • noway says:

        There’s a big difference between Felicity and Lori. Felicity is a pretty good actress with an Oscar nomination, and Lori is a Hallmark Fuller House actress. In addition Lori’s part in this scandal is bigger and definitely more money than Felicity. Plus Lori’s husband is implicated, and they couldn’t get William Macy. Felicity’s career will die down a bit, but she will probably come back. Macy won’t be affected at all. Lori will probably not have her career for a long while if ever.

      • Desolee says:

        I disagree swack. They don’t offer enough for people to bother choosing them in spite of the scandal. They aren’t geniuses or putting out catchy songs that are hard to resist. I didn’t even know Lori had a career (or her name but i recognize her from The original FH) but she had a pretty impressive one (considering) and i think that’s gone now except the residuals.
        Felicity is known for good acting and people probably assumed she was a kind and wise person since she played a transgender person. that facade is done. People will totally lose interest

      • Wisca says:

        The only thing Loughlin has to do is go MAGA, Christian, and decry affirmative action (which helps white women the most but whatevs). That’s it. No, it will not make sense, but that kind of redemption tour would work with tens of millions of Trump supporting Republicans.

      • Still_Sarah says:

        @ Swack. I agree. They won’t go to jail. I used to be a criminal lawyer and Kaiser is right – rich people with no criminal record do not serve time for what is essentially a white collar crime. There may be a big fine and lots of public humiliation but no jail time. And if enough time passes, all will be forgiven-forgotten especially if they do an “apology tour” orchestrated by their PR people.

      • Carol says:

        @swack Sadly, I agree with you. They won’t see jail time. And I don’t think Felicity, and Lori will be out of work for too long.

    • Heather says:

      My opinion? Loughlin is done. This whole thing is against her brand (see being dropped from everything related to Hallmark). As far as Huffman and Macy? They have actual talent. I don’t see anything happening to Macy. He’ll continue on Shameless, possibly win an Emmy. Hoffman will lay low for a bit and quietly have a come back in either an Oscar bait indie film or edgy TV show, either or both accompanied by a weepy tell all interview with Oprah and the cover of People magazine. Either way, no one is seeing prison time over this.

    • Eliza says:

      I think Mossomo already sold his brand so he’s retired and loaded. Lori is a harder sell because she’s the “wholesome” character, but a cry on a Barbara Walters type interview about how she wanted to do everything she could for her daughters and she got so caught up… blah blah blah maybe she’ll end up back on Hallmark. Unless she gets jail time then it’s done.

      Felicity will be fine. The crime was “lesser” and she’ll probably get just a fine. Again she’ll probably do a teary eyed “anything for my daughter” routine in combination with an oscar-baity indie-film promotion. Because her “press” isn’t as bad as Lori and her insta-daughters, it’s already getting sidelined.

      • Lithe says:

        ITA @Eliza. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Lori back on Hallmark in time for a Mother’s Day movie next year. Perhaps a real tearjerker about making foolish choices for the love of your kids.

        @Heather I chuckled at your comment that Macy will continue on Shameless. How do you damage the brand of a show about awful people doing awful things all day long?

      • Vintage says:

        No, they’ve cut her out completely. I love Garage Sale Mystery (Tv to read by) and would like to see it recast or killer her character off. They’ve shut down everything, withdrawn the current movies, and are revamping the other series she’s in. Huge issue for the rest of the cast and crew in British Columbia which were let off at the same time.

      • Still_Sarah says:

        @ Eliza – I agree, Loughlin went completely “off brand” with this. And I think this is why she will be hurt the most. Huffman never had this image – her roles had more range and variety. Loughlin on the other hand found her sweet spot (All American mom-friend-woman with high standards) and she stayed there and built a career-business empire on it. The husbands won’t break a sweat as their careers are not related to wholesome in any way especially Macy’s.

    • kdm says:

      If Hollywood will stand up and applaud for child rapist Roman Polanski, they will easily forgive these guys too.

    • adastraperaspera says:

      I agree that their careers are ruined, yes. I bet they’ve also lot many friends and contacts. Not everyone, even rich celebs, go for this kind of thing.

      • 90sgirl says:

        So DONE with these two.
        I think both careers are done or will be on the downswing from here on out.
        I don’t see Felicity or Lori recovering completely from this as far as the Taint attached to them.

        What will Felicity do behind bars without her face fillers. I swear I thought that was a photo of Melania at first.
        What will Lori do behind bars without designer sheets?
        How will these two survive without catered food?
        I don’t feel sorry for these entitled Phony jerks one bit.

        Bye Felicia

    • Serpentinefire says:

      These white people will get off with a slap on the wrist.

    • windyriver says:

      Here’s a photo I hadn’t seen before, from the NY Times – of Felicity Huffman accompanied by two (armed) agents in what looks like the Roybal Federal Building in LA. She may not believe she’ll eventually do jail time, but I bet this was a real eye-opener for her.


      I expect she’ll still get work, and David Mamet’s response last week shows she and Macy will likely be fine with many of the people in the Hollywood/NYC/1% bubble they all live in (others are probably guilty of the same thing). But, judging by thousands of comments I’ve seen, this isn’t like, say, Martha Stewart and securities fraud. This scandal hit home for much of the rest of the 99%, where parents care deeply about helping their children, but still remember what a “moral compass” is. It’s probably the public humiliation that will bother her most, and that reputation won’t recover.

      My sense with Lori and family is that only a hit to the bottom line will make an impression. Hopefully a hefty fine is coming their way, along with dropped sponsors and Hallmark’s cancellation (at least for now). They tried floating the victim narrative – learning who their real friends are, girls bullied at school; that didn’t get far, especially since their kids were obviously complicit.

      Don’t think either of them will do significant, if any jail time. That may also be true for others accused in the scandal, who we’re not hearing much about. Reportedly some of them may be able to make plea deals if they’re able to provide credible information expanding the scope of the investigation.

    • Annie says:

      Careers ruined? Are you high? Nothing will happen to these people. Nothing

  2. Wilady says:

    I can’t imagine getting so lost in celebrity, desperation, money and entitlement that I couldn’t see this coming, or see clearly what I was doing.

    Looks like it’s time for a wake-up call, ladies.

    Salute to my fellow hard working Mamas out there, raising kids that can do what they dream based on their own accord and hard work.

    • suharik26 says:

      I think that’s the whole point, they are in such a bubble, it never occured to them what they were doing was so incredibly wrong.

  3. J ferber says:

    I’m sorry, but until trump goes to prison, I don’t care if these two go. Any one of his crimes is more prison-worthy than the ones of these silly and entitled women. Geez.

    • Wilady says:

      There will always be someone more deserving of prison, and even worse crimes, but it’s mildly ridiculous to think nobody should be punished until the WORST is punished lol. Wrong is wrong, no matter how you slice it.

      • Cindy says:

        Yeah, and I’m sorry but I’m frankly repulsed by anyone who would invoke sexism to say these women are being unfairly punished. Maybe if you compare them to the absolute MOST priviledged segment of humanity – white male billionaries. But the repercussions they will face for their crimes are still pretty insignificant compared to your average middle class Joe.

    • Elkie says:

      Insert “Por que no los dos?” *gif

    • Who ARE these people? says:

      What they did was not silly, it was fraudulent and these are not victimless crimes.

      • Swack says:

        Unfortunately many will think this was a victimless crime. They don’t realize that it effects others that lost out on an opportunity (and would really use it the way it should be used) to go to USC. And it’s not just these two as there were 48 others indicted and I’m not sure but probably includes schools other than USC.

    • whatWHAT? says:

      I don’t care if they go to prison, but I DO care that they get punished.

      a heavy financial fine (like, millions) would be good, a further stipulation that they both have to set up a scholarship fund for less fortunate students (also MILLIONS), and neither of them ever working on any major production ever again. maybe throw in a few hundred hours of community service, tutoring or mentoring underserved/underprivileged students.

      • Hoot says:

        whatWhat? – I think your ideas are excellent. Even if these people did receive prison time (they won’t), they will suffer more from this exposure of their moral fiber than anything prison could inflict. On the other hand (as you stated), if you hit them in their bottom line it would benefit others and, more importantly, take them out of the financial/social bubble of privilege in which they currently exist. Lori and Felicity will suffer social stigma for many, many years to come, and in H’weird that is death. I doubt LL will EVER work as an actress again – her brand was too focused on the girl/mom next door, and those fans will drop her like a hot potato. She’s done.

      • CK says:

        I’d rather they just go to jail. These felonies don’t rise to the level that they should be barred from working again (few truly do) or have to pay millions for. They need to serve their time and then get on with their lives with whomever is willing to hire them.

      • whatWHAT? says:

        I didn’t say “barred from working again”, I said “working on any major production”

        they can teach acting, or do local community theater or…here’s a novel idea…get a job like us regular schmoes so they can experience what the rest of us go through. their lives are not over, and NO ONE is entitled to a successful Hollywood career.

        to boot, whatever they would be sentenced to would likely be waived (or severely shortened) because of overcrowding. remember how Paris Hilton and Lindsay Lohan were both out in about 24 hours because of overcrowding.

        no, 24 hours in lock up won’t be justice. hit them where it really hurts, their wallets.

    • adastraperaspera says:

      How about they all go? We’ll have plenty of room in prison for frauds like all of them when we let out non-violent offenders caught with a little weed.

  4. Veronica says:

    I’ll be amazed if they see legitimate jail time, but Lori’s family definitely deserves it. The part that may actually bring them down is the tax fraud. The IRS does not mess around.

    • Rapunzel says:

      Yes! Don’t f*ck with the IRS. I suspect that they are the whole reason this thing got public in the first place. I don’t think it was ever about trying to have fairness in the system but instead, getting Uncle Sam his cut.

    • Ms. says:

      Yup. The IRS will GET YOU if you have big fish to fry.

    • Scal says:

      The mail fraud to. USPS does NOT mess around when it comes to that stuff. I think it comes from being on the low end of the totem pole of the federal agencies.

      • Veronica S. says:

        That, and it requires mail staff to become unknowingly complicit in your crime. My friend is a mailman, and their union doesn’t mess around. They have access to private information and home security to an extent people don’t quite consider on a significant level. People abusing the postal system get in trouble for good reason.

      • Rosalee says:

        *A short interlude in the conversation for a brief message on cultural awareness*
        The low end of the totem pole is actually a place of honor. It signifies carrying the others it is the figure that has the most significance or more meaning as it is closer to the earth.
        Thank you.

      • Steph says:

        Don’t mean to laugh at this, but your comment sounds exactly like the USPS investigator on the TV show the detour. Lol!

      • noway says:

        I have a serious question on the mail fraud. How is it mail fraud? You don’t mail in anything on college applications today or for the SAT/ACT. It’s all done online. Now they may mail the test sheets to the College Board or ACT to grade. Is that it? Just wondering and it’s only tax fraud on Lori and Felicity’s part if they claimed it on their taxes. Felicity’s probably isn’t done yet as her daughter isn’t in college so she’s a no on that, not sure about Lori’s but I wouldn’t bet on it. Now the guy who set up the company he is definitely a go for tax fraud. I didn’t see if he got indicted on that count though. He was working with the FBI so he may not have gotten indicted on everything.

        The SAT/ACT thing is bad. They just found another fake SAT/ACT student admitted at Berkley now. Maybe they will find another way than all these tests. Education had become standardized test crazy these last few decades, it’s time to change that anyway. This good might happen, I doubt the rich paying into the elite colleges will change. They just might not outwardly cheat like this. It will just be Donald Trump and Jared Kushner type now.

      • Tourmaline says:

        @noway regarding mail fraud, mail and wire fraud which are the basis of these charges making them federal crimes.

        Mail and wire fraud include not solely use of US mail to perpetuate fraud. Use of interstate carriers such as FedEx and use of email servers or telephone communications systems that can cross state lines, qualify as well.

      • Lady D says:

        I thought they were nailed because they were giving these ‘donations’ to the school, and then claiming them on their tax returns illegally? Or is that where the IRS comes in?

    • Izzy says:

      THIS. I’m always amazed at how many people forget – the IRS brought down Al Capone in the end. If they can nail him, they can nail anyone.

    • 90sgirl says:

      Felicity and Lori both should get jail time.
      Tired of people trying to act like what Felicity did is somehow less. She is just as bad, tried to get two kids in on cheating.
      I hope Both get at least several months to a year in jail.
      Let them see what the women behind bars,who don’t have resources go through. It might open their eyes.

      Felicity and Lori make me sick , when there are kids with no resources , no money, no support, fighting tooth and nail,studying or going home studying with no electricity,no food.

  5. Emily says:

    I don’t know if I care so much that they specifically go to jail, but SOMETHING has to happen. The college officials who took bribes? Something with the NCAA? I don’t expect college admissions to become 100% “fair”, but I hope it changes something.

    I think Lori is already screwed. She’s off “Fuller House” and she’s off Hallmark (that punishment was swift). What else is she going to do?

  6. Tourmaline says:

    Well, at least Felicity completed that major face renovation before all this happened.

    • wk054 says:

      Ha ha! So funny and true. Her face looks weird!!

    • Redgrl says:

      I think her “new face”’is awful – so swollen and fake looking. On a more serious note, though, as someone who worked throughout undergrad, studied like mad to get good grades my whole life, still made the dean’s list, took a year off to work so I could afford to go to law school, studied like a fool for the LSAT, amassed student loans etc etc this infuriated me. To think that one of these brats took the spot from someone who worked hard and deserved it – that’s massively wrong.

      • Hoot says:

        Redgrl – You are a credit to all hardworking students and congrats to you(!) for finding a way to achieve your dream. UGH, the student loan thing is a horrible position to be in, and I wish the government could offer a better solution to the hardship this places on students after they’re done with school.

    • chlo says:

      I came here to ask what the heck happened. It barely looks like her.

    • claire says:

      and I was hoping she would be one of the “hold outs” and not succomb to the pressures of Hollyweird. She looked better before imo.

      • Redgrl says:

        @claire – yes, I agree she looked better before. Meanwhile, Macy still looks like a crumpled unmade bed but that’s ok because he’s a guy.

    • minx says:

      I don’t like it, she was prettier before.

    • Veronica S. says:

      I literally did a double-take when this story broke. I almost didn’t recognize her. Like, damn lady, I know aging sucks in your field, but that’s not even remotely good.

    • 90sgirl says:

      Felicity’s face looks awful.
      I thought it was Melania at first.

  7. HK9 says:

    What??!! The FBI showing up at their door didn’t hint at the version of hell called prison that might be at the end of all the legal wrangling?? Please.

  8. Darla says:

    I mean, I just read that FLorida is going to make a deal and Kraft won’t do prison time. IMO he had to know those women were basically slaves. What he did is so horrible. It is very difficult for me to eat this. Put these women in jail and not him, am I supposed to be rooting for that? I personally cannot stand Loughlin in particular. This is not about defending them. What they did is so privileged and I would like to see them punished. They should be. But what world are we living in when all of these men right now, and I mean from the top down, seem to be involved in human trafficking one way or the other, and the biggest story is these two? I am not okay with this.

    • BaronSamedi says:

      Agreed. And I feel like this has nothing to with “both things at once” but is legtitimately a distraction from the bigger picture.

      It’s almost as if BECAUSE nothing can be done about Trump and Putin, Kraft, The Koch Brothers, etc. it’s the smaller targets that get all of the wrath.

      Also why aren’t the husbands in trouble? Oh right, because at the end of the day it’s the mothers who manage things like education in the family. I’m sure they husbands knew about it, they just didn’t get their hands dirty…

    • jan90067 says:

      👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 ^^^THIS!

    • adastraperaspera says:

      Any chance Kraft may have cooperated and gave info about Chinese spy network to Feds? I hope they got something for letting him walk. Just another one of Trump’s perverted criminal buddies.

      • pottymouth pup says:

        I think they made the offer to multiple folks, not just Kraft, so I’m hoping it’s b/c those folks are cooperating

  9. J ferber says:

    I’d say that the justice disparity based on sex, race and wealth is more than ripe for ridicule. my comment still stands.

  10. Other Renee says:

    I wouldn’t be so sure about them not getting prison time. The judge may want to make an example of them to discourage others from doing the same thing. The biggest issue will be the tax fraud. If a jury is involved, there’s a lot of pent up hostility right now against the entitled rich and that would work against them. Most will plead guilty to avoid facing a jury is my guess.

    • Swack says:

      Even if they get prison time they’ll be out quickly because of overcrowding. I don’t have much hope they’ll see prison.

      • Lana says:

        These are federal crimes, so federal prison. You can get a tiny bit of good time credit, but otherwise, you are serving 90 percent of your sentence. There’s no overcrowding like the state system, fwiw.

    • pottymouth pup says:

      this is not the first time there’s been fraud perpetuated on behalf of Olivia Jade so they’re gonna have a hard time with the “we just wanted her to get into a good school, we didn’t realize the gravity of what we were doing” excuse isn’t going to fly with a judge wanting to make an example

  11. xdanix says:

    I just can’t see either of them going to prison. I know there’s a real case against them, I just… can’t see it.

  12. Jenna says:

    My husband, who is a lawyer albeit not in this specific area, and I were discussing this last night and he kinda blew my mind because we had vastly different takes on this. I thought Lori was the one in serious trouble because of the crazy amount of money and scheming and Felicity would get a slap on the wrist. From a legal point of view, he thought it was obviously the other way . We both think both of them did something immoral and deserve harsh punishment, but he thinks Lori has a really good defense, while Felicity doesn’t. In his mind, it all came down to the idea that he thought you could sow enough reasonable doubt that Lori thought she was doing the socially acceptable and legal “donate money and get your kid in” where they thought everyone involved was aware that the donation swayed things (which in that case wouldn’t constitute fraud), while Felicity’s was cut and dry fraud to deceive the admissions boards at multiple colleges.

    Just thought that was an interesting take to share. Like I said, neither of us agreed with any of this, but I’m now convinced Lori has the tougher case for prosecutors and therefore will plea out to something minor, while Felicity may get serious consequences.

    • SK says:

      Interesting! How do you swing the doctored crew photos with that defence though?

      • Jenna says:

        Okay I actually texted him this morning asking about the rowing pic and idea of tax fraud.
        Rowing pic: “Hardest thing for them to defend, however it all comes down to can you prove that she knowingly knew the photo was meant to deceive someone. I don’t know enough about the case to know if they can. While it seems obvious to everyone, you still have to prove it.”
        Tax Fraud: “Were they charged with tax fraud? Felicity is screwed on that end, if so. But if Lori’s case centers around “we thought we were donating to a charity” then the tax thing may not hurt her case.”

      • jan90067 says:

        It came out in the recorded calls (or was it the email, can’t remember now), but they have Singer telling Loughlin to get a pic of the girls ON A ROWING MACHINE and send it to him. So yeah, SHE knew…the KIDS knew… there is NO doubt about this.

    • Darla says:

      How do the fake rowing pictures figure into the innocent act?

      • Originaltessa says:

        She’s not innocent, but I think her crime is lesser than cheating on the test. The coaches were complicit in the scheme. Lori could argue that she wasn’t aware it wasn’t a common practice, like donating a library or being a top booster. Felicity has no argument.
        “Oh you’re not allowed to have someone take the SAT for your kid? I had no idea!”
        But again, Lori is almost definitely screwed with the IRS.

    • Originaltessa says:

      Yes, my dad who is an attorney of 40 years agrees. Cheating a standardized highly regulated test is not the same as gaming the admissions system within the private University. Where Lori gets in trouble is if she committed tax fraud, which it appears she did.

    • LivePlantsCleanAir says:

      But Lori lied to get her kids in as ‘rowers’ and they aren’t…doesn’t that constitute fraud? Also, would someone help me please with the acronym SAT? It’s not in my texting dictionary of acronyms??? Thanks!

      • jan90067 says:

        Scholastic Aptitude Test = SAT 😊

      • Jenna says:

        I just want to be super clear, I’m not advocating either are innocent. I was just preparing myself that out that of the two, Lori may have a slightly higher chance of getting away with it. And let’s be honest, much more heinous and obvious things have been explained away by talented defense lawyers. I didn’t go to law school so I can’t explain it well, but apparently some at USC were aware of Lori’s deal and helped facilitate admission, whereas on Felicity’s end that was not the case. That could be a big difference, although they are both disgusting acts.

    • Aren says:

      Oh well, maybe Lori even consulted a lawyer before doing what she did? Maybe that’s why she’s so trivial about everything.

    • noway says:

      I originally thought the way your husband did, but then I read the indictment and learned about the kids. First, Felicity never outright says a guy is correcting her daughter’s test, it’s just inferred. This is why I think Macy is not indicted, he just says we want what we did for our older daughter. Then they decide not to do it. If the info was clear they would have indicted him too. It is legal to try and get more time with the tests, just a very complicated process. Honestly, $15,000 is not a crazy amount to weed through the paperwork. Now the ringleader who set this up says they both knew, but he’s not a great witness without corroboration. Plus, her daughter isn’t in college so technically she didn’t gain anything from this yet. Now Lori did fake pictures of rowing, and violated NCAA rules, plus bribed a coach to get her in. If you are committed with NCAA you have to register with NCAA recruiting so there is more places to commit this fraud. It was just more complicated. Plus both kids are in USC. Her older daughter was a sophomore, so there is a bigger chance of tax fraud too.

      • Jenna says:

        All great points! Neither he or I read the indictment so this was all just pure speculation on what we had heard.

  13. Ali says:

    I don’t think they should go to prison.

    I don’t care at all who gets into USC or any other private university and who doesn’t.

    • Veronica S. says:

      I care because they abused disability clearances to get those privileges. Down the line, it’ll make it that much harder for legitimately disabled kids to be taken seriously.

  14. Mabs A'Mabbin says:

    I think in their world, locked and loaded FBI was the penance. Doubt it will get any worse than that.

  15. Karen2 says:

    imo neither will do jail time But they wont be forgiven. You had it on this site. 200 ppl saying “I/my kid worked so hard to pass this test/achieve that mark”. Those ppl wont forget or forgive & those posters represent bedrock America.

    Both Huffmans & Loughlins careers should be dead in the water if theres any justice cos its one thing ‘doing the best for your own kid’ but they denied a poorer more achieving child their rightful place in a prestigious college.

    • me says:

      It’s more likely they denied another rich person’s undeserving kid a place in the college…let’s be real. If it wasn’t Loris’ daughter, it would have been some other rich f*cker’s kid.

  16. Lolo says:

    I don’t think either of them will go to jail. Nice white ladies don’t go to jail in this country! As for Felicity laying low I think she’s trying to salvage her career because as of now, she still has one. We haven’t heard of any of her projects being pulled or postponed and she hasn’t been dropped from anything that we know of. Lori is a different story because she was operating at basically the highest level she was ever going to achieve and she was dropped like a hot potato from everything. Hallmark even took their top rated show, when calls the heart, off the air in the middle of its current season to “retool” the remaining episodes to take her out of them. They are not playing around. But in terms of her career she has no reason not to tak because she is nothing left to lose. Also I think her daughter is talking to these tabloids too. She wants to come out of this more famous than she went in. And if our tabloid culture has shown her anything, it’s that she definitely can.

    • jwoolman says:

      Martha Stewart is quite pale and she did six months in a federal prison for lying to the FBI.

    • Desolee says:

      I don’t need them or any people of any colour doing this crime to be in jail. It’s a waste of money for the taxpayers as they aren’t a threat to public safety. I would love to see no limit on fines (depending on wealth of the defendants) for bribes and other white collar crime. That would be a huge deterrent

      • CK says:

        You’d be surprised how many people who are for “criminal justice reform” are really just for the system being as unnecessarily punitive and feelings based for everybody. I mean someone in this thread has gone as far as suggesting that Huffman never be allowed to work in a major production because somehow wealth and chosen employment are only things allowed for people who aren’t felons.

        I don’t mind them going to jail if that’s what a judge deems, but after that, they can live their life for all I care. If some studio wants to take the risk that their image might tank a film, so be it. The government doesn’t need to intrude upon that.

  17. Elaine says:

    I am also pretty sure nothing major will happen to them and their careers. Yeah, they’ll go away for a while, they’ll get little to no jail time (because fame), they’ll get on a redeeming tour after dust has settled and all will be forgotten.

    At least in my country there are still so many parents who think they are allowed to do anything to make sure their kids have the best grades and go to the best schools (anything but hard work and meritocracy).

  18. Nancy says:

    Rich people thinking they can get away with it. They didn’t. Although nepotism is another topic, it’s in the same rich folk arena, put my daughter in the movie said Goldie Hawn, my daughter is as good as me, well nobody is as good as me says Cindy Crawford. Realize those aren’t crimes, but they sure do give people breaks that would have to work their way in otherwise. Lori Loughlin is really paying the piper. She always played the prim, pretty rose, guess we found out she has thorns too.

  19. Shelley says:

    Actually cheating on act/sat is a pretty big deal. If the parent companies get involved, they could sue them for fraud or whatever. They didn’t pay as much money, but educators have gone to jail for helping kids cheat on those tests. In my mind, that is the bigger deal of the two.

  20. mycomment says:

    both might pay a fine; but no way will they serve jail time.
    Loughlin is a bible thumper; so she’ll go on a tour of churches begging forgiveness.
    Huffman will do a few months in community theatre and gradually work her way back into actual roles.

    • 90sgirl says:

      I think both are on the downswing, After this. Advertisers won’t want them in a project, IMO
      Who needs to hire either Felicty or Lori when there are other actresses around with no taint, who can fill their spots.

  21. Lynne says:

    I think they will do community service vs hard time
    Macy is fine being popular and not having been charged.
    Felicity, she won’t do anything for a few years but will return.
    Lori,…She is done. While comparing her to felicity some press labeled her as defiant with crossed arms and in full makeup when she went before the judge which makes her appear entitled and also, her daughter basically flaunted her distain and boredom of being a student. Family quotes from before the arrests makes them appears entitled….which is a bad look.

    • Other Renee says:

      I don’t think Huffman will have any sort of meaningful career after this regardless of the punishment meted out by the law. There are plenty of other actresses out there her age who are just as talented without the baggage. Or the Catwoman facelift. Or a spoiled, bratty daughter who gets to hang out on a yacht owned by a USC Trustee.

      • Jayna says:

        Felicity’s daughter wasn’t on the yacht. You are talking about Lori’s daughter.

      • Heather says:

        I think it was Loughlin that had the spoiled bratty daughter who needed to be pulled off the yacht owned by a USC trustee when the news broke.

      • 90sgirl says:

        Both are done, both can be easily replaced.
        Felicty new surgery face goes against what she originally represented as far as the roles she took. She was always portraying the down to earth, hardworking women in roles, who cared about the underdog. That won’t fly now.

        Lori was usually portraying the good mom, the Christian, the sweet, honest mom.
        That won’t fly now.

        Advertisers won’t want to deal with the taint and headaches either Felicity or Lori bring, it won’t be worth casting them, when their are other actresses without the baggage who can do the same type of roles that they do.

      • noway says:

        Those pictures above are old, and I think it might be botox, cause if you saw the pictures of her at her arraignment they don’t look like above. She looks pretty normal, if not a bit old.

      • Other Renee says:

        Jayna, you are correct. Still, Huffman will be mocked for years and there are many other talented ladies in the 50+ category fighting over parts as it is. Stories are coming out about her (haha) good parenting website (now down) and pics of the six sprawling properties the family owns. Rich folks. So NOT like us.

    • Vintage says:

      LL’s daughter is so stupid and vapid it almost makes me think she’s being paid by the prosecutors. No teenager these days, especially with parents in the public and used to media, should come across as stupid as she is. Or as shallow.

  22. CK says:

    Meh, this is just PR for when they inevitably plea to lesser charges with no jail time.

  23. Pandy says:

    Doubt they will ever see a jail cell but I do believe we will be inundated with OJ stories (refuse to say her name) and that she will rise to the pop culture top …. Like a Hilton or Kardashian top. Not anything that really has weight lol.

  24. Vintage says:

    I wouldn’t be surprised if they something happens in regard to time. This story is not going away, and people everywhere are pissed about this, and prosecutors are going to want to show that they are tough on everyone and set some examples. Who better than a goody-goody face of Hollywood?

  25. Cara says:

    Their expensive PR teams are working over time and it’s just a matter of time before we we start seeing the “they are just loving parents who got carried away and can we really blame them and wouldn’t you do the same thing? narrative. Then the kids will be the real victims of vicious bullies and we need to protect them and give them a reality show. LLs girls dropped out of school because they feared bullies- NOT because it was revealed that they didn’t belong there.

  26. crogirl says:

    I am curious about something. Why aren’t Lori’s daughters arrested? They are not minors and obviously participated in the scam.

    • Vintage says:

      Probably because they did not make the actual wire transfers, or they could have been under 18 at the time of the act. I suspect they are considered periphery like Macy as far as the legal issues.

    • Lynne says:

      No money was involved. Girls didn’t hire singer or write the checks.

    • Veronica S. says:

      It would also be difficult for a court to convince a jury to convict them. As obnoxious as they are, few people are going to look at an 18 year old and say, “This child is entirely free of their parent’s influence and has fully formed agency,” particularly if they’re living on their parent’s income and still under their roof.

  27. crogirl says:

    Ok, I get that but still. They weren’t just bystanders, they knew what they were doing when they took those pics

  28. Bunny says:

    I think it is too soon to tell what the fallout may be yet. The “other shoe”, in this case the political blowback, hasn’t dropped yet.

    I’ll be interested in seeing what right-wing politicians do with this. Holding these people up and saying, “This is what the Hollywood liberals who support Democrat Candidate X do” may be really effective.

    This isn’t what I want, but similar arguments about “Hollywood liberals” worked in 2016, so we’ll see.

    If this turns into an effective political “thing”, expect to their careers to be over.

    • S says:

      They could try with Macy and Huffman, who are outspoken liberals, but Loughlin and her husband—especially the husband—are vocal Trump supporters and have been significant part of the whine that conservatives are mistreated in Hollywood. I have no doubt those same red state voters who cheered Loughlin’s “values” will turn their back on her, but it’s gonna be hard to pin this crime on her being a secret liberal, even for Fox News, since there are plenty of receipts, literal (aka contributions) and figurative, that show otherwise.

  29. Sam says:

    I very much doubt that they will go to prison. And if they do, can see it being more than a few months.

    All will be forgotten and forgiven in a year or so. We know America has an abundance of sympathy for rich white folk.