Royal expert: Prince William & Harry are the ones who have been feuding for months

The Duke and duchess of Cambridge stand with the duke and Duchess of Sussex at W

As we’ve been hearing more months now, the Duchess of Cambridge and Duchess of Sussex are not at war. The Christmas stroll at Sandringham was supposed to be the end of the “feud” between Meghan and Kate, but because tabloids gotta ‘bloid, of course there have still been murmurs about how Kate and Meg secretly hate it each other and Meghan storms into Kensington Palace, steals Kate’s earrings and yells “cry bitch!” at her. Or something. It’s become something of a journalistic feint to still talk about the feud by repeatedly and excessively denying the feud (DID YOU KNOW THERE WAS A FEUD). As I’ve said for months, though, I just feel like Meghan and Kate’s “feud” was mostly a cover for William and Harry having a major falling out. Their body language still isn’t great. And people still aren’t running to the tabloids to talk endlessly about how Harry and William’s feud is all in the past. Because it isn’t.

For months, rumors have swirled that Meghan Markle and Kate Middleton have been in an alleged feud. However, one royal filmmaker told Fox News that’s not exactly what’s happening. Nick Bullen, who has been making programs about the British royal family for nearly 20 years and has worked closely with Prince Charles for eight, claims the royal tiff is actually between Prince Harry and Prince William.

“It comes out in the ‘Royal View’ — and what comes out is that it’s a much sexier story to have two duchesses at war,” Bullen told us of the TrueRoyalty.tv talk show, which aims to separate fact from fiction regarding the royals. “Let’s have these two super glamorous women — one British, one American. One an actress, one sort of an English rose. Let’s put them against each other… that’s the sexy sort of media story. But…It’s actually that William and Harry have had a rift. I think you know, look. All brothers fall out. All families fall out. Their fallout at the moment is becoming public. I think people don’t want to think about that with these two boys. These are two boys who lost their mother [Princess Diana] at a really early age, and the fairy tale is that they are closer than ever, and need each other, and I think that’s probably true, but equally they are two grown men in their 30s, starting their own families, different wives, they are moving to different parts of the country, different duties.”

“Yeah. I think it was sad. I think it was really, really sad, because you don’t want to hear this, but again, it goes back to them being real people,” Bullen explained. “We forget that they are people. We’ve all fallen out with our brothers and sisters over the years, and hopefully, it’ll be fine. I think the Prince of Wales and the queen are working incredibly hard to try and make sure everybody reunites. But it is, we were surprised to hear that it was the brothers.”

Vincent further revealed that “the suggestion” the alleged “rift” is between Prince Harry and Prince William came from one of the show’s guests who is “well-placed.”

“The suggestion was – from somebody well-placed – it was one of the guests, that actually it’s the brothers. It’s the two princes that don’t get on. The actual wives actually are still finding their feet or have found their feet, and they’re very happy in the situation they find themselves, but it’s the brothers themselves who have been closer than anybody up until now.”

[From Fox News]

Note the use of present tense – “I think the Prince of Wales and the queen are working incredibly hard” and “Their fallout at the moment is becoming public.” That too is why the Sussexes and Cambridges are splitting up their offices and courts so completely. I would even argue that the rift between the brothers has always been the center of this, almost everything that’s happened in the past nine months or so. It’s been happening for MONTHS and it’s clearly still happening. But this guy is right, most people don’t want to talk about “Brothers at war!” or “prince feud!”

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  1. Alexandria says:

    Somebody reads celebitchy heh.

  2. Akua says:

    Going to Charles and Andrew territory now, hope William is not like charles.

    • Kittycat says:

      William will be just like his dad which is sad.

      • ANDREA1 says:

        and why do you all think the worst about William when you really dont have the facts about what actually went down smh

      • Kittycat says:

        I think the worse of William because I choose to. Nothing personal and I would ne happy to be wrong

      • jan90067 says:

        I don’t think he’ll be “exactly” like Charles. W&H *were* very close, something that Charles and Andrew never were. Also, Harry is NOT jealous of William’s position as heir, as Andrew still is.

        I think that things will abate in time, esp. after Polo Baby arrives. Babies do have a way of soothing things over. While things may never be quite “the same”, I think that they will come to an understanding over time, especially if the wives gently nudge them (and yes, it usually comes down to women).

        Remember that great line from “My Big Fat Greek Wedding”, where Lainey Kazan’s character says: ‘Men may head the family, but the woman is the neck that TURNS the head”. Ain’t that the truth! 😊

      • Milla says:

        And how do you know the whole story? I am sick of people acting like Harry is this sweet little dude who just wants to save us all. He is just as selfish as the rest. He is immature and careless and lazy. It is in their blood.

      • Alittlesugar says:

        I’d still prefer Charles over Andrew at the very least.

      • Princessk says:

        Harry has Charles good characterisitics, like putting people at their ease and not looking uncomfortable talking to people. Charles l believe is on record as saying he did learn from Diana.

    • SK says:

      I’d take Charles over Andrew any day of the week! Andrew is, and always has been, a spoiled brat. Mummy’s favourite. Let’s not forget his extremely close friendship with a convicted pedophile who used to throw sex parties with underage girls and all his mates. No thanks. Charles is a long way from perfect, but he works hard, he raises a tonne of money for charity, and he champions wonderful causes long before they are “fashionable”.

      • Original Jenns says:

        Boom – this 100 percent. Whatever personal faults Charles has, it seems that he is a decent person, and someone who does as much as he can in his role. I don’t think ending up like Charles will be sad at all.

      • ANDREA1 says:

        Thank you so much for this. Alot of people really need to know this

      • Sharon Lea says:

        With this Epstein case heating up again, I wonder if Andrew’s connection will be looked into. Plus Andrew has ties to/friends in Kazakhstan, we are hearing about ties to Putin and that country.

      • Himmiefan says:

        I’ve read that he’s very nice.

      • Dee Kay says:

        Oh yeah, for sure Charles is 100,000 x the royal that Andrew is. Charles may have been a bad husband to Diana and he opposed the “new London” architecture a bit too hard but he was good at everything else he was supposed to be, and in some cases was ahead of the curve (promoting traditional arts and crafts and small local farming, for instance). Andrew has been a giant trash fire most of his adult life. I think people just don’t like Charles very much b/c of how his marriage went, but if they really compared him to Andrew they’d see Charles’s vast superiority.

      • Stephanie Hawkins says:

        Prince Charles was friends with jimmy savile a pedo playing with little boys. Is it only okay for the heir

      • Tina says:

        To be fair, there were a few rumours about Jimmy Savile during his lifetime, but most people had no idea. It’s not like Epstein.

      • Nikki says:

        Team SK all the way. Thanks for your post.

      • Princessk says:

        @Tina…..no, lots of people knew about Jimmy Savile. Even a relative nobody like me heard years and years back that Savile was a pervert, but l had no idea of the shocking depth and extent. He was a friend to the royals because of his astonishing ability to raise money, no more no less.

    • Ainsley7 says:

      Why would it matter if William was like Charles in this instance? Andrew thinks he should be more important than he is and throws hissy fits about it. It’s hardly Charles fault that Andrew hangs out with people like Epstein and arms dealers. Everyone except that the Queen wants him benched entirely. Philip has wanted to cut him off financially for years. Maybe Charles could have been nicer, but he certainly isn’t the more problematic of the two.

      • ANDREA1 says:

        Thank you for your voice of reason. If William turns out like his dad there is nothing actually wrong with that!

    • guest says:

      If William ends like up Charles then that’s a good thing. Charles will be a good king and he knows he needs to work hard for the crown. As for the brothers I think they will be fine. Harry isnt the scape goat anymore and he is making his own path in life. If William is jealous of that then so be it. It’s not like he isnt going to step down. Harry has always known hes not going to be king and has spoken out about that many times. Until george is older, william will need harry because he wont be able to do it alone. Charles has himself. Camilla, meghan harry and the cambridges.

  3. Rapunzel says:

    Here’s my take: the tabloids, trying to take Meg down, started saying she was awful to Kate. Harry wanted an official denial, but William refused to allow it through KP PR, cause…reasons. Hence feud. Harry is pissed William won’t stand up for Meg.

    Or, Will is really pissed that Harry wants to separate. He strikes me as someone who dislikes change.

    • Toot says:

      Yeah, I can see Harry being pissed also because a lot of the the sources against Meghan I think came from the Cambridge side of KP. Harry would know that, especially with the Royal Reporters used like Rebecca English who seems to have a closeness with the Cambridges.

      • Bettyrose says:

        If Will has designed or knowingly allowed a deliberate smear campaign against Harry’s wife, that would be a full on declaration of war by any family’s standards. But coming from a son who still blames the press for his mother’s death? To then sic the press on his SiL? If true, that’s brutal.

    • harla says:

      It’s always struck me as odd that William, the Champion against Cyber Bullying, never said one word against the vicious and hateful things that are/were being written about his new sister-in-law.

      • Xo says:

        Not odd. “Never complain, never explain.”

        They seem to think that responding just adds steam to a story.

      • Royalwatcher says:

        I mean, please, Xo. They complained about a story saying Kate wears hair extensions FFS! And, just yesterday, Charles’s attorney went after those who published the pics of him and Camilla on a public(?) beach. The fact that they didn’t choose to protect Meghan from all the $hit she was getting speaks volumes to me. But, it’s a lie to say they never complain, never explain.

        And, harla, yes, I agree that it makes William’s cyberbullying efforts a farce. (Same with Melania T.)

      • Mrs.Krabapple says:

        Royalwatcher – omg, the hair extensions! I had forgotten about that — they claimed the perfectly thin rectangle was a “scar” (that she never had before or since). Yes, that was sooooo important that they HAD to address it!

        Also, when there is blatant racism toward Meghan, they have to include criticism of Kate’s laziness in the same breath, as if the two are even remotely commensurate. It’s like people who won’t let you say “Black Lives Matter” without butting in, “but ALL lives matter.”

    • Digital Unicorn says:

      It was hinted at during the really bad press before Christmas that the issue was that William does not like Meghan and thought Harry rushed into marrying her (instead of stringing her along for 10 years).

      • Alittlesugar says:

        Dating for many years (as opposed to 1 or 2 years only) seems to be the expected for the royals now after 3 of the Queen’s children divorced. Edward and Sophie dated for 5 years. Peter and Autumn – 4 years. Zara and Mike – 7 years. Beatrice and her ex – 10 years. Eugenie and Jack – 8 years. William and Kate only did similar, and as expected since they were only 20 when they met. If anything the royals must have been surprised at Harry’s much quicker pace, so I wouldn’t be surprised if any of them spoke to him about being cautious.

    • Xo says:

      More: William (allegedly) thought she was unsuitable in the first place.

      • noway says:

        Or in a more impartial way, William remembered more the hardship on their mother, and brought this up probably not tactfully to Harry. Saying are you sure she can handle this? Maybe this isn’t a good idea? Harry rightfully got a bit upset about his negativity, and they haven’t really recovered. That’s my bet on the feud, but they will. Still why is it sexier to have the women fight? We need to stop that thinking.

    • Silas Marner says:

      There was a story that William also spoke to the Queen about Meghan’s supposed unsuitability which is very different than speaking only to Harry. That was overstepping and it’s something that William has done before (keeping the RAF base open, taking Apt 1 A).

      The Queen could have vetoed the marriage or met Meghan with bias instead of giving her a fair chance. Thankfully, everything worked out. William is very controlling and inappropriate. Who speaks to someone’s grandmother about such things. Prince Charles is an appropriate choice, not the Queen.

      And recently, we have seen the article about William consulting Prince Philip about the split of offices which had to happen anway.

      William has made many mistakes in his life and has few achievements. He should not be so overbearing about his brother’s actions and he should show more humility.

    • Milla says:

      Will is not the king. Why not ask yourself what were Lizzy and Chucky doing? Chuck did amazing job turning his mistresses into a future queen he knows how to play the media.
      So much hate towards the Cambridges, yet no one asks why would Will want to get rid of his brother… we know that wk are popular more than other royal couples, so really, am i only one immune to Chucky?

  4. minx says:

    I think most celebitchies figured this out, but the public at large just loooves to blame the scheming harpy wives.

  5. CROWHOOD says:

    I’ve never believed there was a “feud” for a million obvious reasons but one of them is how thankful I bet they both are to have each other. They are both young women who are extremely isolated and sharing an incredibly unique experience. I would Be thrilled to have somebody to talk to, commiserate with etc. I think Meghan has always valued her female friendships and it’s not like there’s any threat as the media has portrayed it- Kate supersedes her in rank. So truly, I bet They wish their husbands would stop bickering so they could hang more!

    • minx says:

      My sense is that these are two pragmatic women who are happy with their lots in life; they got where they are by being smart and cool headed.

  6. Sash says:

    I’ve never believed that the feud was between Meghan and Kate. William and Harry need to grow up and get it together.

  7. Vexa says:

    We been knew.

  8. Kittycat says:

    William supposedly asked his grandfather for advice about harry.

    • Rae says:

      Yeah, I rolled my eyes at that tabloid story.

    • Muffy says:

      I think this is how it all started, actually. I think the Firm decided someone needed to talk to Harry about Megan and have the “are you sure” conversation and William was pressed. And where William took like 10 years to be sure about Kate (and they were much younger when they got together) Harry and Megan felt more sure and moved quickly. Harry is insulted; William is put off by Harry’s reaction, and now nine months later they haven’t resolved all of this. And all the leaks from charles’ book launch didn’t help, either.

      • jan90067 says:

        Totally agree here. Harry is ticked-off his wife wasn’t welcomed with widely opened arms immediately upon hearing the news. And while he may’ve “forgiven” he has not/will not “forget”, perhaps never. Perhaps there will always be a “coolness” now between them. But I think, as posted above, they will come together again. It may not be the same, but I think they will re-connect.

      • line says:

        I too think that the quarrel came from this situation,despite the fact that they have always been very close, they have always had very different personalities. For me they are look like Mr Darcy and Mr Bingley of the novel Pride and Prejudice

      • noway says:

        I think when you lose a parent at a young age the siblings become close. I doubt their will be coolness forever. I just get a feeling William may not be that tactful with his brother and the story always was that William was Diana’s shoulder to cry on about the troubles she had with the press her marriage etc. I think William was probably very strong in are you sure this is right. Probably also the reason he waited 10 years to get married too. Even though they are similar in background, I think they come from different places on this.

      • Deedee says:

        It’s not necessarily true that the loss of a parent drives siblings together. I’ve seen it drive siblings apart.

  9. Pandy says:

    Is it wrong that I really don’t care about any of the feuds? I just like to see their fashions … otherwise, I could care less about them, really.

  10. Eleonor says:

    How shocking.
    Said no one.

  11. MarcoPoloBaby says:

    Nope. More made up nonsense. They were *always* going to split. Like, since before their births. This is HOW it works. It has nothing to do with whatever supposed feud (nope) exists in their imaginations for the sake of selling ads on big-click articles. This story is SO tired, has never been true, and is just boring.

    Harry found someone that occupies his attention and time. Period. He is just not a third wheel anymore, and now has the leadership of his partner to help him be a grown up professional. The gents not doing stuff together is just what happens when you effectively get reassigned by the company you work for. That is the only evidence of a feud: That Harry is no longer constantly being shoved out to events with his big brother. The tabloids knew there was no way to keep the dumb Kate-Meghan feud going (DM had an article over the weekend about how it was “resolved” smdh), so they switched tacks. They read the commentary and knew this “feud” had slightly more traction. By next week there will no longer be any reference to it.

    This is just as exhausting as the dumb Samantha Grant/Papa Markle coverage. It is not true, it is really obviously not true at that, and it is just tiresome.

  12. Missy says:

     “We forget that they are people.”

    I like this quote because some people speak of the Royal Family as if they are some magical characters in a fairytale. They are real people who have issues and disagreements just like anyone else. I love and adore my siblings, and I consider them my best friends, but it would drive me crazy to have to follow them around everyday. William and Harry aren’t little boys anymore.

    • Jegede says:

      👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

      I so wish Enough Already still posted here.

      I would’ve have been very interested to read her take.

  13. Becks1 says:

    Of course the feud is between the brothers. You can look at their body language at public events for months now and pick up on that. The funny thing to me is that Kate and Meghan obviously know what is being said, and they have made an effort at events like Christmas and the commonwealth service to silence those rumors, but the brothers are not making the same effort.

    • Nic919 says:

      We have already seen for years how Kate makes sure not to outshine William through workload and the like because she knows he doesn’t want to be outdone by his spouse like his dad was with his mother. So the likelihood that he doesn’t like his brother being more independent would get to him and Harry toed the line and had not really stood up to William until Meghan entered the scene and Harry felt he had to stand up for his girlfriend now wife. It wasn’t a secret that William did not approve of Harry sending that open letter telling the media to lay off. And Harry is now doing more things his way and not listening to William and he doesn’t like it. Harry can control his media far more through an office at BP, where Andrew in particular has been able to control his own media. At KP, William controls it and people like Jason won’t provide support to Harry, so starting fresh at BP is the only option. Also it was going to happen anyway eventually.

      Kate and Meghan were always getting along in public, as we first saw at Wimbledon, which would have been after the crying story would have happened. Obviously they had gotten over it if it even happened.

      • Becks1 says:

        @Nic – yup, they were clearly enjoying themselves at Wimbledon, and that was after Meghan went total bridezilla and tried to ruin the church with air freshener and made Kate cry etc. (supposedly, ha.)

      • stephka says:

        Also, I’m guessing that William doesn’t like being outshone by Meghan either. Meghan is a very charismatic person who likes to work. William might wish his brother had chosen a more retiring person as his wife.

      • vava says:

        Stephka, I think you nailed it. William doesn’t like the fact that Meghan is an excellent public speaker and has charisma – both things that he clearly LACKS.

      • Princessk says:

        Poor Kate had it drummed into from the very beginning that the RF did not want another Diana type of figure and so she tried as much as possible to be passive and submissive, a huge mistake. As a result we don’t know the real Kate, her true personality has not yet come through.

  14. megs283 says:

    that header pic is hilarious. Meghan just seems so darn likable!

  15. LivePlantsCleanAir says:

    Yes, I believe it was coming due to royal protocol…Wm is heading for Prince of Wales duties, Harry will be focused on his duties as per other royal siblings. I do believe Wm is petty, petulant and a pest as well as being bossy. He’s been fawned over his whole life, and folks probably end up giving him his way cause it’s ‘just easier’. Harry has watched this all his life, and has come to the realization that he needs to make his own stand for what he wants/needs/believes in.
    I respect and admire my older sister…in fact, I adore her muchly and we get along great….when there’s a mountain range between us. If we spend too much time together, I get miffed by the family dynamic cause as the younger sib, I tend to get the short end of the stick. But after years and years of thinking it was just me, I discovered the rest of the family knows of the dynamic as well. We still do it, but at least I understand it better, so it hurts less. The guys are learning this now, appropriately, as adults, and are learning how to navigate a new relationship. I think the source is wrong that the woman feud is ‘sexy’. Most women won’t think so. I think an openness about the brothers learning their new roles and responsibilities makes a much more interesting story because THEY are the royals by birth, not the women. I’m sick of hearing woman on woman bitching stories, and would be delighted to have more stories about the the fellas are struggling….and learning to be adults. My 30′s were my favourite decade, so far, because of the huge learning curves and settling into my whole, connected self.

    • Salvation says:

      @liveplantcleanair, I’m with you on the “there’s no feud anywhere”. Claiming that the brothers are fighting is feeding into the narrative that Meghan drove a wedge between the 2 brothers. The tabs are still trying to lean into the “Meghan is the cause of all evil” narrative because the feuding duchesses failed miserably. Nobody is feuding with no one. William has always been fussed over, Harry has always had to prove himself worthy of anyone’s live or attention. It was alright as kids, now Harry the man is not comfortable with her m and his wife always being the fall people just because he was not born first. But he isn’t fighting with his brother because he knows it doesn’t solve anything.

  16. Khy says:

    I went to Gary janetti Instagram most meghan haters, and they were saying she threw herself at william and that’s why he didn’t like her. It was really disgusting

  17. Valiantly Varnished says:

    Team Harry. William is a knob. #ISaidWhatISaid

  18. Tiffany says:

    I think this has been going on for a couple of years now. I still think William is upset that Harry grew up, knew he wanted to marry Meghan and did not string the relationship along for a decade and have break ups in between while trying to find a upgrade and when no one was interested went back to girlfriend who stuck around through it all for a decade.

    On top of that, the woman that Harry married was someone with a resume of jobs, volunteer work and charity associations and came into the firm ready to work.

    Optics are optics and William knows that.

    • Wowsers says:

      Meh, I think W&K’s trajectory to marriage was pretty normal for a couple that met in college. I married my high school sweetheart and I’m very happy, but there were certainly breakups and explorations along the way. Likewise, Harry and Megs story seems standard for a mature couple in their 30s.

      • Andrea says:

        I am 38 and I think I would need at least 2-3 years before marriage—at least 1-2 years living together.

      • Humbugged says:

        Andrea

        This 2 years of living together would only have been possible if she was a UK citizen which she wasn’t .You don’t visas to shack up with your significant other for a trial run

        And frankly what you (or Wont and Kant ) would do is fuck all to do with how others should live their lives

  19. Elizabeth says:

    I can’t stop laughing at the mental image playing in my head now of Meghan storming the palace, busting into a closet, ripping the earrings away from Kate, and yelling “cry bitch.” Sorry, not sorry – that shiz is funny.

  20. LizB says:

    I think it has been detrimental to W and H to be constantly frozen in time as “the boys” who showed their grief at their mother’s passing. I know they have not shied away from using the public good-will when they needed it, but it has been past due for them to “split” or whatever you want to call it, and live their own adult lives. It was getting weirder and weirder for H to be the 3rd wheel and maybe him finally starting a family on his own is what caused the current “coolness” between the brothers.

  21. Marie says:

    I just hope that William and Harry won’t repeat Charles and Andrew scheme. It would be so sad, and would go against what Diana ever wanted for her boys. However, William unfortunately did not take much after Charles but his jealousy, and I think that in this case he also married someone who is as much entitled to her position as he is. I also believe that while the feud is rather between the two brothers, William AND Kate both feel threatened by Harry’s popularity and Meghan’s irresistible charisma that they both lack of. Kate could barely hide how mad she was at Harry and Meghan’s wedding. They didn’t do anything even hint at the bullying that Meghan was and still is subject to, except once to say that poor Kate is also targeted by vicious attacks on their social media account.
    I’m glad that poor Harry was there for his wife, and that they now have separate staff. William is for me such a failure, as an work shy heir of the throne, as a son because he isn’t that close to Charles and what is he doing to historique mother’s memory and legacy – and as a big brother obviously. So sad.

  22. Citresse says:

    William and Harry have been fighting for a very long, long time now. Spats, not at your throat type fighting…MM is viewed as a gold-digger and always will be, by certain UK blue-bloods and that’s the root problem: William is expected to pull his weight by the entire UK aristocracy… it’s all very complicated, UNFORTUNATELY.

  23. Mego says:

    Harry matured after his military stint and no longer wanted to be his brothers scapegoat.

    Meghan’s genuine keeness to work was showing up W&K.

    The smear campaign likely has roots in the Cambridge/Middleton camp. Meghan gave really good speeches on their tour and comparisons were starting to be made between her and Kate. Cue Meghan backlash.

    KP did nothing to reign in the abuse or defend Meghan against the attacks.

    No wonder they are separating offices.

  24. Yep says:

    The in-laws did nothing to protect her (Meghan) from all the online abuse, so she had to take care of herself.

  25. Yoyo says:

    Prince Harry planted trees at a Catholic School today, (Queen’s Commonwealth Canopy)
    He was given two present, and in typical Harry style he put one of the boxes to his ear and shook it.
    The folks in Wessex got together and made a beautiful quilt for baby Sussex.

  26. Marjorie says:

    All I need to know about William was summed up in his dad-dancing video a few years ago. Dork.

  27. TheOriginalMia says:

    Confirmation of something that’s been obvious for months. It is what it is. William will either apologize and make amends or relations will stay at this uncomfortable stage. Not sure an apology will even suffice since I fully believe the Sussexes believe some of the smears originated out of KP. Attacking Harry’s wife was wrong, wrong, wrong, and I don’t see that wound healing anytime soon.

  28. Vintage says:

    Each boy has had their assigned roles from the beginning: William literally the Heir Apparent and Harry the mischievous younger brother. Harry has grown up and is married and William and Kate are no longer his cohorts.

    It reminds me of stories of women who have lost tons of weight or stopped drinking and are then sabotaged by their friends and/or families. Change in one person threatens the status quo.

  29. Flying Fish says:

    Whatever caused the rift between William and Harry occurred after the wedding. William and Harry seemed close at the wedding ceremony, William seemed to offer comfort when Harry was visible nervous. The notion that William had the “are you sure” conversation with Harry and that that caused the rift is not making sense to me. Something happened after the wedding. That is my take.

  30. Mrs.Krabapple says:

    I don’t have anything to back this up, but I don’t think it’s personal between them, but professional. The Queen’s death is on the horizon, and I’m sure there have been internal adjustments in anticipation of that. All their positions will change once the Queen is gone, and when Charles is on the throne his kids’ (and siblings, etc.) roles and responsibilities will shift. I think the coolness (and separation of offices) is more from anticipated changes to their responsibilities than what anyone thinks of their wives. Honestly, I don’t see William caring one way or the other what anyone thinks of Kate or Meghan, or really anyone other than himself, except how it impacts their “professional” positions within the family. Just my own 2 cents.

  31. Idsmith says:

    I’ve been waiting to float a theory. Perhaps the brothers had a falling out, but I suspect that this too is being blown out of proportion. Everyone loves to s$&t on William, but I think maybe this started because Harry was a groomzilla. We all remember his “what Megan wants Megan gets” outburst…even the Queen had to check him on that one (over the tiara). They were under enormous pressure leading up to the wedding with all the Markle bulls?$t and the racism. Harry would be absolutely furious and defensive…likely to take anything as offense. I believe William checked his attitude and Harry was pissed. Will seemed pretty relaxed at the wedding, so I don’t think he was uptight with Harry at the time. ALL of this came about due to rumours from Charles who loves attention and hates sharing it with his sons. Plus it all came out after the Sussexes very successful trip. Charles loves to bag on Will (he was closer with Diana) and this setup was perfect…create drama between the Fab Four and look like the better next-monarch as a result. I don’t think there is any ongoing feud, it just gets clicks

    • Silas Marner says:

      William was a -zilla himself. He was rumored to be very inflexible when it came to getting what he wanted for his setup and Kate’s setup after they married. It would be hypocritical of him to check Harry because William has a reputation of being difficult.

      It stands out to me that not a single member of the royal family besides Harry showed Meghan public support when she was being attacked last fall. They could have done a joint engagement with her but instead they left Harry and Meghan to sink or swim on their own.

      • MsIam says:

        I feel that things changed after they announced the baby. Before that was the outing with the Queen, Charles birthday event, the family pictures, Meghan and Kate all smiles at Wimbledon. They announced the pregnancy and bam! S–t got real quick when they came back from that tour. For the other royals to hang Meghan out to dry with the press like this is major. No wonder Harry and Meghan want to get away quickly. I also feel it serves Charles purpose to have Meghan the whipping post instead of Camilla.

  32. Sue Denim says:

    My take, w absolutely zero evidence, is that this is just part of Harry redefining his role in the family, particularly vis-a-vis his older brother, now that he’s married and soon to be a father. And Will is prob used to getting his way and doesn’t like it, so some time and space to renegotiate the relationship is hopefully healthy. I say this because… I’m the youngest too and always kind of went along to get along until I just couldn’t do that anymore, and it generated a lot of pushback for a while, inc a needed break away for me, long since overcome now. So I’m projecting, but that’s my guess. Meghan was maybe a catalyst but prob not a cause…

  33. BendyWindy says:

    What is this new English Rose nonsense narrative about Kate? Just a bit ago they were flinging around “middle class commoner” like the insultiest of insults. Lol.

    • Tina says:

      The tabloids have smoothly moved on, now that there is a new target in town. Kate, who was once a lazy middle class spendthrift, is now a hardworking, dress-recycling English rose. It would have been interesting to see what would have happened had Harry married a blonde aristocrat like Cressida. I suspect they would have found a reason to dislike her (precedent gonna precede) but it would have been difficult for them.

  34. Well-Wisher says:

    The constant repetition of Prince Harry’s position in terms of lineage after the successful Australian etc tour had to be irritating at best.
    Notwithstanding I think Harry is furious with his brother and wanted a separate work situation with clear indication who is and will be his boss. That would be the Queen and eventually Prince Charles. By that time Prince George will be eating into his position.
    Prince Harry has always indicated that his position will change when his nephew matures.

  35. minx says:

    Co-sign this about both Duchesses.

  36. Mego says:

    It was KP’s responsibility don’t you think? But yes this is all speculation for sure.