Earlier, we discussed this new story in Tatler about the Duchess of Sussex. Tatler really doesn’t have an equal here in America – Tatler covers royals and aristocrats, and over the years they’ve gotten exclusive interviews or exclusive coverage from royal and aristocratic events. Tatler is not a gutter tabloid in the UK. So it’s notable that Tatler has sources within Kensington Palace, sources who are ripping into the Duchess of Sussex. The timing of this story is fascinating, right? For months, we’ve known that the Cambridges and Sussexes were dividing their offices, but this story was put together right after the announcement that the Sussexes would be moving their offices into Buckingham Palace. This story comes right after the Cambridges are being left to run their own court and communications office. Which makes it seem like this was the going-away present for the Sussexes: a giant f–k you to Meghan. In addition to the big reveal of a juvenile nickname (“Me-Gain”), KP staffers also had some other sh-t to say:
Among the scandalous morsels offered up: That Palace staff have dubbed her ‘Me-Gain,’ that she bought a sorbet station for her royal office and Prince Charles described last year’s wedding preparations as a “nightmare”.
She wanted to wear a sleeveless wedding gown: It also claimed after she hooked up with Harry she became much more “difficult”, she wanted to wear a sleeveless wedding dress — but the Queen put the kybosh on that — and Charles did not want Harry to marry her.
Why Kate cried: Meghan apparently made Kate Middleton cry during Princess Charlotte’s bridesmaid dress fitting because she was so “brusque”.
She ignored Harry’s friends wives: She also reportedly ignored Harry’s mates’ wives when she met them, encouraged Hazza to skip one his oldest friend’s weddings to go to the launch of Soho House Amsterdam .
She banished Tom “Skippy” Inskip from Harry’s circle: Prince Harry ‘banished’ his childhood friend Tom ‘Skippy’ Inskip from his inner circle because he advised the royal against marrying Meghan, according to Tatler. The Duke of Sussex, 34, is reported to have ‘frozen out’ members of his ‘old posse’ including Mr Inskip. As Tatler claims, ‘Hang out with the Clooney/Beckham/Soho House set and be assailed for being too Hollywood, for forcing your hen-pecked husband to abandon his old, country-set muckers – including Tom “Skippy” Inskip, the ultra-loyal, tight-lipped Harry pal, who, it’s said, advised Harry not to marry Meghan and has paid the price: banishment.’
[From The News AU & The Daily Mail]
You know how the Duchess of Cambridge’s new thing is that “she’s never put a foot wrong” and “as future Queen, she’s always been absolutely perfect”? Well, I remember when Kate was accused of something similar with William’s friends – after she waity’d for years and finally became a duchess, she spent years carefully freezing out certain members of William’s crew, especially the members who had been critical of her and her family. But when Kate did it, she was just being a Future Queen, right? And when Meghan does it, she’s obviously a frightful bitch.
As for the rest of it… we already knew that William told Harry not to marry Meghan and I still believe that was probably at the root of the brothers’ larger conflict. But did Charles give Harry similar advice? I doubt it. And how dare this gauche American want to… wear a sleeveless wedding dress! Impeach her! Or something.
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The friendship dynamics always change when someone gets married, add pregnancy/kids to it and there are even more changes. These ‘reporters’ are too stupid to know they are too stupid with an article like that.
Also, I firmly believe these anti Sussex articles are an effort to hide Big Willy’s affair.
I think you may be on to something because this article is just ridiculous.
For Pete’s sake, can the tabs give this woman one moment of peace? If Meghan was as difficult and demanding as they claim, we would have heard all about it ages ago because the tabs undoubtedly got to work digging up dirt on her as soon as she starting dating Harry. The only thing they found was her garbage family and you really can’t blame her for that, it’s not like she chose them.
Wait? What am I missing here? ^^^ I’m usually pretty up to date with the “news”.
Have you read the other posts from yesterday and over the weekend (or Friday?) about the Turnip Toff and the Marchioness of Cham…I cant remember the whole title, ha.
Or perhaps the Norfolk story was planted by the Sussexes to deflect from their own drama & bad press. Harry & Meghan just hired a heavyweight pr person who made her name in American politics, so perhaps this is part of the fight back.
I have heard this theory and I just don’t buy it. first – the initial round of Norfolk stories just kind of fell flat. we talked about them here because we like gossip, ha, but I think even here they would have lost steam after a day or so. Kate and a local marchioness aren’t on the best of terms anymore, even though they used to be bosom buddies. If that’s the best dirt the Sussexes could come up with to distract the press, then its kind of silly. At least make something up that is more interesting. Find #mypalacesource and get them to leak something, true or not. I basically give Meghan more credit than that, lol. I think if she wanted to smear Kate, I think it would be something a bit tougher. Plus, all the stories about this include some really obvious digs at Meghan.
I don’t think its impossible in general that the Sussexes would try to leak some gossip about the cambridges. I just don’t think this would be the gossip.
Nancycon… That would only somewhat work if the “never complain, never explain” reaction to the earlier pieces happened. Instead, there was a defense that caused a Streisand Effect.
Sarah Latham hasn’t started working with them yet and won’t until after the baby, as has been reported by several royal reporters. Trying to blame Meghan for Willy’s alleged wandering dong is simply ridiculous. Especially when Meghan doesn’t know any of these people and has only been to Norfolk a handful of times.
So are you saying there has been rumors of Wills having an affair? I had’t heard that, but I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised.
I think the rumors may just be here, lol. But after the over the top denial from Richard Kay re: the Norfolk gossip, I think made many of us think that something is being hidden.
Giles Corren confirmed on Twitter that he had heard of the affair, and then deleted the tweet about an hour later. Kaiser has the screen shot on her twitter account.
Someone else – Sarah something – was talking about an affair on twitter as well. I think she deleted her tweets as well.
That tweets looks like a joke and nothing more. He probably deleted it because he didn’t want to be bothered.
Giles Coren has left up tweets that are racist, misogynist, threatening, and just generally vile. If he deleted a tweet within the hour, that would be unusual for him.
None of the articles have said anything about an affair so this is just rumor mongering. I’m all for light gossip but these kind of claims goes into dangerous territory because another family with young children are involved & we need to be careful that we are not turning their lives upside down by spreading gossip that might not be true.
I agree. This “affair” stuff is dumb.
Affair? Affair? Details, please.
Hmmm… agreed. It’s easy, and great, when the first comment is right on. Spouses get so much blame when, of course, your maturity level (hopefully) and life goals naturally go on to a new path. Tatler is such up your own arse aristo, or aristo-adjacent, magazine – I can’t take it seriously.
Newly marrried women have been blamed for “banishing his friends” since the beginning of time.
Diana was blamed for banishing some of his Prince Charles friends. Stuff happens.
This Tatler piece has been ready for a while considering that the Tatler May issue has been out since yesterday,at l
@intheknow – yes re the affair – looking more and more likely to me!
I never understood who it was that “everyone” wanted Harry to marry? If Harry did not marry Meghan then who was he suppose to marry? Sorry. this comment got posted in the wrong place.
Um, lock her up???? 🤷🏽♀️
Lock her up indeed!!
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Totally unrelated, but what is going on with her hand in that first photo?!
What do you mean? She’s reaching out to get Harry’s attention. I think it was because someone wanted to talk to him.
It must be the angle, but it looks scary-veiny. It looks like a 70-year-old woman’s hand. It just surprised me, as her face and figure are so much more youthful than her actual age.
I think it’s the angle. They sky is that kind of brightish gray in that photo I think – which usually can make shadows look stranger than normal.
In all of these “evil Meghan” articles they really love to inadvertently make Harry seem like a total doofus who can’t stand up for himself or make decisions on his own. Apparently Meghan has this magical evil power that Harry is powerless against.
Yes poor Harry.
If only Chelsy or any of his other white girlfriends married him.
Kitty at, it’s not cause she’s Black, she’s just pushy.
LOL @Kittycat, right?
I know, right? This guy who lead soldiers in Afghanistan and started a worldwide charity simply can’t stand up to a 5’3″ actress. LOL. It’s ludicrous
“Lead soldiers” as a military wife and daughter, I’m not sure if I should laugh or be insulted.
They said the exact same things about Kate way back when. Also, do we really know that Will spoke out against Meghan? All we have is speculation. As for Charles not wanting Harry to marry Meghan, we’ve all seen how much he seems to like her.
By the way, why would Meghan be at Charlotte’s dress fitting anyway?
Meghan was there so she could make Kate cry
How do we know that Meghan was there?
That doesn’t necessarily mean that he didn’t think Harry should marry her so quickly. He also wasn’t necessarily against Meghan in particular, but any marriage so quickly. Will doesn’t seem to hate Meghan either. The fight is between Will and Harry.
I never understood who it was that “everyone” wanted Harry to marry? If Harry did not marry Meghan then who was he suppose to marry?
I’ve always had a thing for Harry, but I might be second guessing the wedding after all this if I was her. It’s ridiculous.
I remember when Kate did it.
Correct me of I am wrong, but the press was not kind. Me think the posh aristocrat friends of the two brother must be a real piece of work, towards all the “strangers.”
Yeah, I don’t agree with the author’s assertion that Kate got away with the same behavior scot-free. IIRC the spin was she was being controlling, plus she was getting back at them for being so snotty to her (“doors to manual”) when they were dating.
IMO neither of the crowd that these princes ran with are gems. Lots of party boys and girls.
What the hell is a sorbet station?
I can believe she was brusque during tbe bridesmaids dress fittings. She was under a lot of pressure, plus Kate had just had a baby and might have been sensitive.
Re: sorbet station, I dunno, but I want one in my office.
Also, I did always kind of believe the Kate crying story. Not because Meghan is so awful, but I can see the dress fittings being stressful, Meghan anxious/stressed because of the wedding in general, her family in particular, and then factor in that Kate was either extremely pregnant or very soon post-birth, and probably emotional/hormonal – it could have been a perfect storm, Kate cried, and then the next day she and Meghan laughed over it.
I cried over some really ridiculous things in those first few weeks post-birth.
I thought she bought something for the entire office, not just for herself. I mean, the woman’s been seen taking disposable hand-warmers to the guards at Kensington, so she’s not going to set up something like that just for herself.
The handwarmer story came from, I think, her make-up artist friend.
I have always hated the narrative that one woman made another woman cry and therefore one is evil and one is good. People have emotions and react to those emotions in a myriad of ways. Tears is one of them. There is nothing wrong with crying. There is nothing inherently wrong with feelings. You can’t “make” someone else cry. You can act a certain way and their emotional reaction is valid but not necessarily on par with your actions. People are complicated. Also. I’ve had plenty of awful people yell and cry at me and then gotten pity for crying when they were total demons. Which is not what I think is the case here.
Tears are not a devastating injury. Stop acting as though crying is an unacceptable occurrence and anything that causes it needs to be vanquished.
Lastly. I’m sure M did not stand with a sobbing Kate and cold heartedly tell her that charlottes hem was crooked and the dress maker was going to fix it and would Tuesday’ be early enough for the dress to be dropped off? The funk.
See this is the good news for Meghan, history seems to be re-written a lot. People seem to forget all the details and make their own. Yes, Kate was told she was being the future Queen, but not in a good way. Plus, she had other similar comments to Meghan now. This was when William was better looking and the world was gaga over him. (sorry about that William, but looks fade for a lot of us too.)
I read an interesting article about both Meghan and Harry, and said both are more demonstrative and express their feelings more than a lot of Brits, and it could be a problem in their marriage with their royal roles and the media. While I don’t think it’s the death nail for their marriage or their roles, I kind of get this. I think it is easier for the royals if they have the British stiff upper lip and a bit aloof attitude. This is why I think Americans like Meghan and Harry so much. They seem to present a more American emotional attitude. I do see Harry’s friends and brother being concerned about marrying her as I think it is hard for someone who doesn’t really know the monarchy to live in it. I mean they call it the Firm for a reason, kind of reminds me of the John Grisham novel. I mean all of this could be true just exaggerated beyond any normal amount. My favorite was Meghan was brusque with Kate and that’s why Kate cried. Now who really believes that? How is that a compliment to either of them? That was a twofer slam both Meghan and Kate for being a wimp.
I’m confused so I have to break this one down: Meghan and Harry are more demonstrably affectionate with each other so not only are their “royal roles” in jeopardy, it could be the death knell (not nail) of their entire marriage? They’re not shoving their tongues down each other’s throats, they hold hands and look like they actually like each other, God forbid. Now that the other royals are behaving similarly (you can’t say Bill and Kate haven’t been holding hands more), I guess the monarchy is doomed?
Few poster here are probably old enough to remember the Andy & Fergie engagement but I am and I was there…following the engagement in the tabloids on a daily basis….Sarah and Andrew could not keep there hands, let alone their eyes, off each other.
can you imagine if an article like this had come out in June 2013, weeks before Kate gave birth to George?
These stories are all so ludicrous that its hard to see any truth to them. They’re just completely over the top. And they are all the kind of thing where – there could be an element of truth there (for example, Meghan said “I like this sleeveless gown” for her wedding, she was advised that she should wear sleeves, so she moved on and wore a halter gown for the evening, no big deal overall.)
I do not buy the whole Charles being anti-Meghan thing. Charles is not that good an actor, and he genuinely seems to enjoy Meghan and like being around her.
anyway – the timing of this story just gives it all away. There really IS something rotten in the state of Norfolk, isn’t there?
The timing of this has nothing to do with the Norfolk story, imo. It was written for the May issue of the magazine, one year out from the wedding, and goes on sale March 28th. You could maybe argue they put the story online early to change the conversation, but it seems pretty typical for them to lead with the most gossip-y article for publicity.
Yes, I think the early release is meant to distract. I don’t think someone wrote the article yesterday lol. I also don’t follow Tatler so maybe all these stories are always released over a month early.
That’s what I’m trying to say—the story isn’t being released a month early but four days early as part of the new issue’s roll out, which started with the cover release last Thursday or Friday. Magazines sometimes do this for traffic or to promote the whole issue for on sale week.
Ah okay. So maybe the timing is just a coincidence that works out in the Cambridges favor, lol.
I have to ask this how is any of this coverage good for the Cambridges? Unless you think just bashing his brother is good for him. I mean I just don’t see that.
@noway – I think this article is good for the cambridges because it’s shifting the focus away from whatever is happening in Norfolk.
I’m still constantly distracted by just how beautiful she is. I’m no Meghan stan – but the more she gets pummeled by the media the more I like her tbh. That said – I like Kate too. I think they’re very different people who lived very different lives, and I think there’s some great and not-so-great things about both of them. But especially when Meg’s hair is pulled back in a loose style she just looks so stunning, and I have major skin envy. I don’t know what it is – I think she just has a spark.
Kate’s pretty too – but her skin ages her. I can understand though – I’m pale, and in the last couple of years my skin has been leaning more and more dry combo instead of oily combo, and I definitely find it aging. I also have deeper set eyes like Kate does (and some RBF), which also can look heavy and unflattering unless you’re really trying to work them properly. But when she’s doing something she enjoys she lights up a lot.
I don’t think Meghan is probably pulling any major punches. That said… if she feels that his friends/their wives haven’t been great to her, I couldn’t really blame her for wanting them at arms length. I’ve dealt with a few friends/gfs of my husbands circle who haven’t been great. And we just kind of limit our time together. They’re not really going out of their way to be jerks, but they’re kind of dumb and oblivious as to how they can come off. And we were highschool sweethearts, so I think there’s a little lasting resentment from a few of them that I’ve ‘stolen’ their buddy because my husband was always the kind of easy-going follower kind of guy who’d do whatever they wanted to do. And once priorities shifted a bit, it caused some rifts. He still is close friends with most of the people he grew up with – and he sees them when he can. But About 60% of the time I’ll just pass on an outing that I’ve been invited to and let him go do whatever so I don’t get annoyed and everyone has fun. I could see Harry being similar in some ways – easy going guys’ guy. And now that he’s found a serious relationship and is expecting a child- priorities shifted, and they shifted pretty quickly. I can see that causing some resentment similar to my own situation.
Maybe Harry didn’t want Meghan around his friends to scare her away. But it’s always the woman’s fault.
Accusations of “brusqueness” and “difficulty” are part of quotidian life for the majority of black women. We’re also often accused of being “uppity / conceited / think we’re better than other people.” Since. Fracking. Pre-school.
I’m exhausted.
And I give Meg all the props possible for dealing with this so publicly. Hopefully it will wake some people up.
So exhausted.
Co-sign
Oh my goodness, THIS!
Amen!
None of our reactions are ever good enough when we’re black
Yes, this. It’s so exhausting.
Yup. The same story, every time.
so true. I’m in my 50’s and stop caring years ago, how I come across to people.
Absolutely spot on.
My head hurts with all the friendship drama over the last few days! I’m still trying to get my head around the ‘Turnip Toffs’ saga which I’m still not sure I understand. What name shall we give this latest saga?!
Skip Split?
Melanin Melodrama?
UK OK, US POS?
The Rose and the Thorn? Actually, I like that one.
Melanin Melodrama? – LOL!!!!
I read the Tatler article last night. There’s so much more to it than these excerpts and you should read it in full to appreciate the extent of the shade. It has more alleged inside information about Meghan, Harry and the people around them than I’ve read since their relationship began. Most supposedly coming from upper crust people familiar with them or the circles they run (or Harry ran) in. I understand Tatler is owned by Conde Nast and has a more highbrow target audience. Does anyone have any insight into its record for truthfulness?
I agree. I read the Tatler article expecting a hit job, but it actually sounded balanced. I’m sure the british aristo set are pieces of work, but it seems like Meghan had some adjustment issues too.
Do you really think it sounded balanced? I just read it and was kind of blown away by it. He basically just recounted every negative rumor about Meghan and acted like they were accepted facts. He called their Christmas card “notorious.” He commented on how Kate doesn’t wear expensive clothes. I mean…..
Yeah, that entire article was some racially charged attack on Meghan. If you think it was balanced, I’d take a step back and think about why you are ok with those attacks.
Agreed JimmyDean. NOT everything is racist. Bad behavior and people talking about it doesn’t mean those people are racist. People can not like Meghan and it doesn’t make them racist. I think she has had some adjustment issues as well and it does not make me racist for thinking so. In fact, I find it very understandable and probably most of us would have similar issues.
I never understand defending people seeming or being racist, especially if the complaints are from people of color who know firsthand how racism and microaggressions feel or how they look when applied towards someone else of color
I didn’t think it was remotely balanced. I thought it was a thinly disguised hatchet job.
Tatler is a Cambridge hack – the editor is a Middleton family friend and many of the staff are on the fringes of the Turnip Toff set in Norfolk. Says it all about these stories.
I just read the article and thought it was pretty balanced too. It was written as a year anniversary of Meghan coming onto the Royal Scene. It touches on everything and everyone, including Kate – ‘hasn’t put a foot wrong, but has played it safe.’ To William, who is ‘petulant,’ to Harry, who is ‘stubborn’.
The same Tom Inskip that lives in America and wouldn’t be able to hang out much with Harry anyway? The same one who was once asserted by the press to be a bad influence? Now he’s a dear, valiant friend who’s been ousted by terribly mean Meghan??? Okay.
This.
I was just thinking that perhaps Harry finally feels free to take a step back from these folks. For decades, they were the only people around. He was a prince of Britain…this “set” was all he knew.
But now that he and Meg are branching out and hanging with folks from all walks of entertainment, academia, non-profit world — on a more social level (he’s always interacted on a public level) — he’s realizing that he doesn’t have to spend all his private time with the terrible “toffs.” Say what you will about George and Amal Clooney, but I’m sure they’re much more interesting to hang with than some insufferable twats who feed on exclusion, classicism, and prejudice. With whom would you rather chill: A bunch of entitled, ungrateful scions or Serena Williams, GOAT, and Alexis Ohanian, tech luminary? I’m choosing the Williams-Ohanians every. time.
I would have a child and then give it up to hang out with Serena Williams.
@Tiffany. Right!? When delineating Alexis’ bonfides, I should have put “man awesome enough to be Serena Williams’ husband.”
Wait. What does that say about Harry? This grown man gets a pass for everything. Everythinnng.
this is a great comment! @Adler Who wouldn’t want to hang with Alex and Serena?
Harry has matured a lot over the last 5 years and on top of that your priorities change when you are in a long term relationship.
I do believe their probably is some truth in her not loving some of his friends, I mean Wills friends were trash to Kate for years and she went to all the right schools and Megan has the much bigger hurdle of being mixed race and not British. It could be Harry is cooling on some of them if he doesn’t like their treatment of her.
Wasn’t that the same guy at whose wedding William got so drunk he broke off his front tooth? (If you look at a pic of him smiling now, that replacement tooth is *so* obvious; you’d think with his $$$ they could’ve matched the color better!).
I think Inskip was the one who knocked William’s tooth out, but it was at another of of their ridiculous set’s weddings.
That Skip guy lives in America with his new wife, so when are they supposedly going to hang out?
Also, these details are not making this bunch look great, and I dont blame Meghan for keeping her distance.
@Toot it’s Guy Pelly who live part time in the US with his wife, who is American. And he lives on a farm in Tennessee, no less.
The editor of Tatler Magazine is Richard Dennen who was a close friend of Kate’s back in college. There is a picture of them floating around and apparently they went on a few vacations together. The Cambridge’s called in a favor from an old friend?
“Me-Gain” or whatever you call it is a troll nickname for Meghan. They’ve been using it on the DailyMail, Tumblr, and even Twitter when they want to trash her. They are claiming staff at Kensington Palace are using the same name as those who wish her death and make other nasty remarks on the internet- the same people their new social media rules are intended to weed out. There is no wonder in why they are leaving that place as quickly as possible.
Tatler intended for this to be in their May issue but released the article now , over a month earlier and when the media seems to be trying to kill the Rose v Kate story by adding gasoline to that fire.
If you want to hide anything or divert attention- beat up on Meghan!
I’m sick of all of these articles acting like she’s some Lady Macbeth. The Aristo’s don’t know her because she’s never been around them and from the looks of things- she has no interest in playing their games. Not when she has friends of higher profiles and who actually care about her past a title. She gets around them and suddenly she’s the worst thing since polio.
My wish is that they leave her alone. She’s about to become a mother very soon and has dealt with an unprecedented amount of attacks for no apparent reason. I’m glad most people see through it but it’s exhausting.
The May issue of the magazine goes on sale March 28th (this Thursday), not in April, so like I said above, I’m not surprised they put this online early to drum up publicity for the magazine and other articles. Though I do agree with you that I doubt the people at KP use the same nickname as the people online dedicated to hating them, and I hope she isn’t paying attention to any of this, but instead enjoying her preparations for the baby.
Just to offer perspective (because I’m honestly sick of this whole narrative – Kate v Meghan, Harry v William, Meghan v William), I had very close friends in college with whom I no longer speak. Most of it came down to them being Trumpers, tbh, but for some we simply grew apart even though we were inseparable in our early 20s.
Yeah. That seems like another made up excuse to ignore what the Cambridges are doing here.
The Tatler story is beyond ridiculous, but if I’m being honest, I wouldn’t want to spend any time with someone who strongly advised my spouse against marrying me, nor would I be encouraging him to spend time with them after the wedding. Dynamics change after people marry and in some cases you outgrow old friends. It’s just a part of life. I don’t buy that Harry’s a total wimp who Meghan controls with an iron fist. There is so much BS press surrounding Harry and Meghan, that I wonder what’s really going on and what they are trying to distract everyone from.
How can Kate be “unflappable”, but also cry at Meghan’s “brusqueness”? They need to pick a narrative here.
And hey – maybe a man enters his 30s and gets married and realizes he doesn’t want to spend lots of time drunk and partying – who would ever?!
OR maybe a man falls in love with a WOC and the revelations it brings out are that some of his closest friends are actually racist POS and he would be better off not being their friend.
Obviously we don’t know the whole story, but there are A LOT more options more reasonable that “that bitchy wife of his kicked out all of his friends”. Can we STOP with the bitchy wife narrative every single time any man anywhere does anything different????
I’m so tired of it. Even non-celebrities – god forbid you criticize a man, why are you being such a bitch? I’m so tired.
Shaz, you are seriously underestimating Meghan’s ability to make even the most unflappable of white women cry. It’s like her superpower along with 5am texting. Also your post makes far too many sensible points – I’m afraid you will never find work at a British tabloid.
As someone with no stakes in this game, I really enjoyed reading that Tatler piece – it was a masterpiece of the kind of elegant bitchiness at which aristocrats excel.
This! This so much! The Tatler piece is immensely juicy and full of shady aristocratic upper class gossip. These people can buy both dim Prince’s 10 times over, they don’t currr. Fascinating article & new insights. They obviously don’t like Meghan for whatever reason. Tatlers readership is the upper crust- from the sounds of it their dinner parties and convos when the wine is flowing must be epic haha.
They’re not going to like any outsider, and her being American and POC is just the icing.
@bread – so true. It was an elegantly written piece. Yeah, soapy gossip, but you don’t do Tatler for heavy politics.
I’ll check it out.
Juicy!
I’m reading the article now. I have to laugh at the description of their Christmas card as “notorious” lol.
Okay wait it has me howling, which I’m not sure is the point. This line!
“Palace denizens, who used to favour Harry over the petulant William, now complain that it’s impossible ever to catch the Duke of Sussex’s eye; he’s always gazing, cow-eyed with devotion, at his wife.”
Like, no one can ever get Harry’s attention now because he just sits around and stares at Meghan all day???
Yes,it’s shady but it actually offers some good insight in certain dynamics.
Love the snarky part about the Clooneys bickering at the wedding. Someone spilled the tea.
So Harry had friends who urged him not to marry Meghan, yet they expected to still be in his inner circle after the wedding? Maybe the Tatler should next do an article about the lack of intelligence in British aristocratic circles. It was not up to Meghan to “save” those guys’ relationships with Harry. It was their responsibility to apologize and ask forgiveness from both Harry and Meghan.
Maybe Harry found someone who truly makes him happy and watching the reaction from his so called “friends”, some family members, and others didn’t sit well with him. It would bother me if my close friends and those around me were shady towards my partner for who they are and how they grew up (American, Biracial, Not overly wealthy, etc).
It’s easy to blame his wife but Harry has been growing up and away from the crowd he had when he was younger.
That seems to be a trend here-Cambridge’s, Aristo’s and others in their circle are mad because Harry’s not the rebel party boy but the guy who got his shit together and found happiness with a woman who grounds him. While his father, grandmother, and older family members seems very supportive of him and Meghan and get along with her.
No offense but anyone with half a brain would have told him not to marry her.
And anyone who was really a “friend” would be glad their friend was happy and not be a backstabber. It’s not their life to live but his. Sometimes you have to move on from people who truly do not have your best interests at heart no matter how much they grin in your face.
Why start your sentence off with a lie? Every word after “but” is nothing but intentional offense.
Yep. Everything before the “but” is generally meaningless.
And your reasons are? And your comment is offensive BTW.
Maddie, in light of what Meghan has endured thus far I think it’s the opposite – she gave up more when she married into that family and their way of life. I wonder how long it will last.
Maddie23, why? State your reasons, please.
They said the exact same things about Diana as far as banning Charles’ old friends. Also that she was difficult and constantly firing her staff. Sounds like the same old playbook to me.
It’s the whole thing that people (esp men) do when one of their friends gets married. “Ohhhhh you want to spend time with your WIFE instead of US ohhhhh you’re so whipped/it’s obvious who wears the pants in YOUR family” etc. The whole idea that someone’s wife/girlfriend/significant other is going to poison a man’s mind and turn him against all the people he knew before so that he can focus solely on her–it’s rooted in a lot of misogyny and some disgusting attitudes tbh. It’s magnified in this instance because this set of people have their own issues to deal with, given how insular and awful they can be.
Anyway, the idea that someone like William or Harry or Charles would suddenly have different priorities after getting married and having children on the way is something so awful and wrong is like…??? What do people think would happen after you get married lmao.
Sometimes it can be a little of both. I don’t *not* believe that she can be difficult, but I also think Kate is probably difficult too. I think when you get to that stage in life and have so much fawning it is damn near impossible to not get wrapped up in it. At least Meghan is smart enough to appear to work harder. But this all boils down to the brothers throwing their wives under the bus because they can’t be bothered to sit down and hash out their differences. My family on my father’s side is British through and through and this weird, indirect way of feuding is very familiar to me.
The things being dragged up as evidence of her being ‘difficult’ in this article are pretty reasonable though. It’s ridiculous.
It is all so ridiculous and petty. I’m officially done with following the Royal Family. Are these the kind of people we’re supposed to look up to? People belittle Hollywood celebrities, but these aristocrats are worse.
I pray for Harry and Meghan and their children because they are surrounded snakes. I also pray for them to be strong and to have a strong support system.
I don’t think Meghan fully understood what she was signing up for.
I suggest the Celebitchy book club read “Good & Mad,” by Rebecca Traister. It sounds like an informative and cathartic book.
Let’s keep it real here: Meghan is an outsider to them.
She’s not some young girl in 20’s looking for their approval. She has her own set of friends and networks and is not bending over backwards to appease them or their standards.
Kate had to get into that circle and maintain a status with them. Meghan came from America/Canada and married Prince Harry without ever once kissing the ass of his friends or those around him.
It seems like they all have a problem with that. And Harry, instead of pushing Meghan towards entertaining them, is pushing them away and siding with his wife (as he should).
Yes, you said it so well!
I think Meghan is not bothered by trying to fit in with that bunch at all. And that drives bullies crazy.
also whether they like Meghan or not, they have to curtsy and call her M’am. You know that bite their souls.
These people really cannot handle a woman of color in their midst, can they?
Nope.
IKR…all of this media crap is nothing but thinly veiled racism and righteous indignation that Harry had the gall to marry a smart, hard-working WoC. Keep her as a mistress but DON’T marry one FFS!!
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The smear campaign against Meghan is honestly just awful and the level of vitriol is unprecedented.
I also think it’s unfair to pretend Kate did not face absurd and hateful criticism. I am not talking about comments regarding her work ethic or fashion. She has been dragged for her looks, her skin, her marriage (William’s supposed dalliances with a long-ago girlfriend), her mother and family, her intellect, etc. What else is left? The “saint Kate” narrative didn’t start until Meghan came on the scene. White, English Kate must suddenly seem just wonderful to a bunch of racist snobs compared to black, American Meghan. (And maybe even because of stories put out by Cambridges?)
However, I am disappointed to see that even this site cannot seem to support Meghan without tearing down Kate. I think a place that promotes a positive, feminist message should not start with “well at least she is better than … ” or “well, what she did was worse.”
Criticize or support each woman on her own shortcomings or merits, not on how they stack up against one another.
It’s pretty offensive to equate standard comments about Kate to the racist attacks that Meghan has gotten for years. It’s done to belittle or minimize the racism Megan faces to allow white Kate supporters to keep using those attacks to smear Megan.
This is likely a case of Harry realizing his friends are largely snobby little racists.
White folks in general often don’t realize this until they start spending significant time with POC. There is a ton of casual racism and microaggressions that go unnoticed when there are no brown people around to side eye you.
Are these the same childhood friends harry was chilling with when he did that unfortunate nazi costume?
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@DS9 so true! So many good points.
Don’t know how much of the Tatler piece is true or properly sourced, and if Meghan really as difficult as made out. I tend to believe where there’s smoke there is some fire but this may be an exception given the high profiles and factors involved. Either way, its very nasty to print these things about a heavily pregnant woman. She’s weeks away from having her 1st child and this crap is posted now? Off limits – it could all wait until after the baby is born.
I agree completely that it is incredibly nasty to print these insults when she is weeks away from delivering. Also, her Suits “family” adored her and spoke highly of her. On this side of the Atlantic the only negative things I have read have come from her jealous half-sister, and she seems to be a psychopath.
If you’d ever spent time with posh, titled, EN-titled twits, you’d understand how dim, stifling and inbred they are as a group.
They’ve been coddled and bubbled since the womb — and no one from “the outside” is ever acceptable. The beyond anachronistic class system decides who you deem worthy, who you speak to, who you marry, who you have affairs with…Nauseating.
Beyond how crass and gauche it is, it’s deadly dull.
Tatler was right about one thing: damned if she does, damned if she doesn’t.
I’m laughing at the sorbet comment. Like, what?! People are upset she brought in a sorbet station? Maybe she’s hogging it all to herself and lording it over the staff as she eats from her bowl of delicious sorbet?
It’s so fcking funny to me that this is a point of contention, for a magazine that once had an article with tips on how to save costs when you own a manor house where one of the tips was to reuse your bathwater more than once.
“But on a psychological level, it was almost as if Harry was trying to instinctively shield Meghan from the pomp and pageantry he has known his entire life, while also sending three messages to his family and, by extension, the world:
1. This woman comes first.
2. Our relationship will not be defined by expectation and tradition.
3. The past won’t guide our future.”
By Vinay Menon Entertainment Columnist
Mon., March 18, 2019
The above quote explain this last leak. Prince Harry has decided that protecting his family is the ultimate duty. Hence the separate households and offices. There will be no more leaks in the future and ultimately “this too shall pass”.
Even the rich knows that sometimes money cannot buy some of the most important things in life.
I wish the Sussexes all the best with the upcoming birth.
Good for Harry!
Maybe I’m not benevolent or nice enough, but anyone who counseled my husband not to marry me (and probably for bullshit reasons) is absolutely getting kicked to the curb. No questions asked.
That article was brutal. With the amount of insiders and people directly connected to Meghan who ‘contributed’, I think there is some truth to what is being said. I hate to say it but I find myself disappointed in Meghan right now and I say this as a Meghan fan. I think it would be next to impossible not to change in a situation like this. Though I too would make a stink if I was asked to move seats LOL.
Keep in mind WHO those insiders are though. There’s a difference if the people you’re quoting are solely from one single position or viewpoint. And again, the Tatler is for aristocrats, written by aristocrats. They’re only going to give you one particular slant because that’s really all they would have access to. Just because the number of sources is high doesn’t mean that they’re all portraying a fair and balanced outlook on the subject, they could be just as cherry picked as in any other situation.
I wouldn’t call the article brutal. To me it just reflected a clash of cultures, some of it bordering on ridiculous. (Evidently yoga seems to trigger a lot of folks!) Was there some condescension and snark? Of course. I didn’t see where it revealed a lack of character on Meghan’s part so I’m not sure why you are “disappointed” . Either they will get used to her or she will get used to them and life will go on. And eventually the tabloids will have to find a new target.
Disappointed in her for what?
Most Tatler articles are tongue in cheek. To be honest when Kate first got married there was a slew of vicious articles about her class and her family’s aggressive social climbing tactics. Poor Meghan has it worse because she is older, divorced, an actress with African heritage and some extremely ridiculous relatives. The media is doing this for one reason. Meghan sells, apart from Brexit she is the top story.
Unfortunately the media has not been publicising the fact that London is the top city destination in the world right now and this has been largely attributed to the direct Harry and Meghan influence. So in less than a year she is already reaping in huge financial gains for the U.K. Exactly why l say the endless discussion about the cost of clothing, a drop in the ocean, IMO, is plain silly. Most people, including people like daft Skippy and W&K are plain jealous of the present frisson and enthrall H&M have created worldwide.
I’ve read the Tatler a lot, and here’s what I think–they do have their sources, but they also exaggerate a lot of the facts that they get. But mostly, it’s an aristocrat’s outlet for other aristocrats. Which means that the stuff about Charles and the KP staff are probably not true (they’re really careful about what they print wrt the RF). But the stuff about Skippy and the rest of the aristo set that Harry used to hang out with being frozen out? Are probably actual grievances that those aristos have. I wouldn’t be surprised in the slightest if Skippy was one of the sources for this article. He’s probably angry that his drinking buddy decided to grow up and get married and clean up his act, and he’s stuck being a mid-thirties sad sack who’s been left behind on the shelf as everyone else moves on with their lives.
Isn’t Skippy also married?…..and probably wishing he was with someone as lovely as Meghan.
oof I wouldn’t want to be in Meghan’s shoes at all. the bullying never ceases.
I can’t even with how annoying these humans are. I now remember how unintelligent and petty Charles and Diana seemed when they were bickering. Do you all remember that? I often thought I was making better “royal” decisions than the royals. This my friends is not classy.