By now, all of the royal-gossipers have clocked the narrative that the Duchess of Cambridge traveled from Norfolk to London with her kids and not William. This is not some “Kate storms back to London after a falling out about his affair with Rose Hanbury” story. Kate and the kids returned to London because George’s school has started back up, and because William had already left England for this trip to New Zealand. The Queen asked William, as a senior royal who barely has anything scheduled, to go to NZ to honor the men and women who passed away in the Christchurch mass shooting. He’s also there for Anzac Day, which is today. His visit began in Auckland, where he attended the Anzac Day services with prime minister Jacinda Ardern.
William will only be in New Zealand for two days, although with the flights to and from NZ, it probably feels more like a five-day trip. It’s also interesting to me that as soon as William was out of England, all of the online whispering started – almost as if William personally has a vise-grip on all of the rumors about his possible affair with Rose Hanbury, the Marchioness of Cholmondeley, and as soon as he’s physically not IN England, the rumor-mongering starts up. This is interesting, huh?
So theres a UK media blackout on the rumour/fact that Prince William cheated on Kate.
And by blackout I mean: lets make a huge deal over every little thing Meghan Markle does because ya know… shes a bit brown.
Arsehole family.
— J (@JDaBuddah) April 24, 2019
The Rose Hanbury story really has disappeared in the past few weeks, almost like UK journalists are terrified of digging into it, or maybe William really has been encouraging the media to go after Meghan instead. It will be interesting to see how this sh-t plays out in the weeks and months to come – when his dad cheated, there was no social media, no way for rumors to spread except through the kind of dinner-party gossip which likely started this whole thing – people began learning about the Rose-William story because aristocrats in Norfolk were gossiping about it. Then journalists picked it up, then William freaked. Now the story is only happening on social media, basically.
Photos courtesy of Backgrid.
Is there any question on a media blackout?!
No one wants to test the 3rd in line simply because he’s the 3rd in line and prone to adult temper tantrums.
What’s even more messed up is had he just left it alone and laughed if off, none of would even remember or be talking about it right now. We would’ve rolled our eyes and moved on.
Queen Elizabeth is fine and I don’t mind the idea of Charles becoming king. But I am genuinely worried for the state of the UK and Commonwealth if William becomes King.
William as King is not a good thought
Apparently, Camilla Tominey (I think that’s her name) who’s one of Charles’ “voices”, is throwing everyone under the bus.
https://premium.telegraph.co.uk/newsletter/article2/inside-a-royal-rift-whats-really-going-on-with-william-and-harry/?WT.mc_id=e_DM997467&WT.tsrc=email&etype=Edi_Edi_New_Reg&utm_source=email&utm_medium=Edi_Edi_New_Reg_2019_04_25&utm_campaign=DM997467
Oh that Telegraph article is kind of hilarious. People were really ticked about the pictures Sussex Royal posted for Earth Day. But….Earth day is 4/22, and Louis’ bday is 4/23. Nothing nefarious in the pictures being posted. Also, if Louis can be upstaged by some pretty nature pictures that William took…..well then. He’s going to have a long sad life in front of him 😉
(for the record, I don’t think he was upstaged, I think many people are capable of looking at two sets of IG photos and liking both for different reasons.)
@THE OG thanks for that link to the Tominey article.
Two interesting points in it–that at least one request for Kate to make an appearance has been rebuffed by a letter from Catherine Quinn that Kate is going to be increasingly selective with her duties because she has three kids.
And also – that there is apparently bad blood that the Sussexes are involving themselves in mental health initiatives because Kate feels like she planted the seeds for that with Heads Together.
These people, seriously.
IMHO the Camilla Tominey story for The Telegraph threw everyone under the bus except Meghan. Not one single person came out looking good, just more petty than usual.
@(THE OG)@Jan90067, Thanks for the link to the Telegraph.
Meh, they’re figureheads. Assuming the monarchy survives that long (how has it survived this long???), he’ll be fine.
That was my thinking. They have no real power at this point, correct? The monarch is really more like a mascot for people to rally behind at this point. I mean, they can’t even express political viewpoints. Decisions are made by Parliament. Other than squandering taxpayer funds, which from reading comments on here, many British citizens feel they already do, what horrible, terrible things could he do?
He could technically refuse to sign legislation that Parliament passes. Some people (idiots) have suggested that the Queen refuse to sign some of the more contentious Brexit and anti-Brexit legislation. If that happened, it would create a constitutional crisis of the likes not seen since the Abdication. I fervently hope that even William would know not to do that.
I know I keep saying this, but your third paragraph is just what makes me shake my head at this whole thing. Had they just kept their mouths shut (KP/William), this would have gone away completely (IF there wasn’t anything there.) Sure, people gossip about the royals and this may have been a hot topic for a while, and I’m sure Rose Hanbury got an increase in IG followers after this, but if there was nothing to the rumors, they would have died out as something more interesting happened. ESPECIALLY with the upcoming birth of Baby Sussex – IF there is nothing to the rumors, then I feel like the press would have naturally moved on once the new baby was born. Sure, it would be awkward for that month or so, but then it would be done.
Now it just keeps popping up, not only as a “did he or didn’t he” question but also as a “how much power does he have over the press” question, which is worse IMO.
I cannot understand why the media would be printing stuff about this anyway given that William is in NZ for a memorial to the victims of terrorism. Surely it would be really tacky to use this event to spread gossip.
In other news Kate and Harry did an event together today at the Anzac memorial service in London.
William hasn’t been in NZ for the last month……
And yes, we are discussing the Anzac service in another post.
Based on what I read on Royal Foibles, which gives an excellent narrative for Turnip Toffgate, there is whole lot more to this story than what is floating on the surface. It seems Will, and to some degree Cathy, have pissed off a rather large lot of titled aristocrats and wealthy landed gentry due to the way they are handling this juicy mess.
Oh my , the royal foibles article, it is an eye opener. A lot has been going on “allegedly” evidently.
Someone around that Toff set, who knows the score, is spilling.
It’s written well too, every paragraph is loaded.
It’s not the usual gossip , it goes deeper.
@90sGir, I Googled Royal Foibles and found this article instead (am I the only one in history who doesn’t know about Diana’s alleged coke habit?!) If any of the article is true, it does shine a blowtorch on William’s character template/development. https://www.newstatesman.com/culture/books/2018/04/prince-petulance-tom-bowers-uncovers-right-royal-foibles-heir-throne
Okay, this is interesting— it could be nothing, but I just tried to click on a bunch of Royal Foibles posts (via its Twitter account) trying to find the one you were referring to and none of the links work. It looks like the site is down. Could be a technical glitch or maybe William’s lawyers are hard at work again??
@Bay, any possible chance you have screenshots of that article?
@Lorelei,
Here is the link you requested:
http://www.royalfoibles.com/prince-williams-banished-mistress/
Thank you for link.
@Bay, thank you — it’s not loading for me though. Is anyone else having this problem or is it just my phone? I tried clicking a bunch of royal foibles posts but none of them are working for me…
ETA I just saw below that Becks was able to read it so I think the connection is just slow because so many people are trying to read it today! Thank you for the link : )
Something is up with the Royal Foibles website. Surely it hasn’t been taken down???
UK Twitter has been hilarious
The media blackout is so obvious, that its almost laughable. I said this on twitter – but in response to the comments that I know are coming about how “there isn’t a media blackout, there just isn’t a story there, nothing happened,” – if that was true, we would still hear SOMETHING. This is juicy gossip about the family-man Duke of Cambridge. If it was just sheer gossip, and there wasn’t anything there, some tabloid would still just fabricate something. there would be some minor non-incident between Rose and Kate that would have been dissected in 20 articles, or Will and Kate and the Chumleys (I know that’s not how its spelled, spelling police!) would have staged a photo op just to shut the story up, etc.
Tabloids make up crap about celebrities all the time. It’s not right, but they do it. The fact that there has been radio silence from British press about this is very telling IMO.
Now that I’ve said that, some on here have said that without hard evidence the British press aren’t going to publish anything. But that doesn’t fit with the stories that have been published about Meghan.
This is about more than Bill Cambridge. The Titled Aristocrats and wealthy landed gentry do not like the manner in which Bill Cambridge treated the Marquess of Cholmondeley and Marchioness of Cholmondeley. Nobody “phases out” David & Rose Rocksavage. Titled Aristocrats and wealthy landed gentry are pissed at Bill Cambridge for attempting to do what his wife asked instead of telling Cathy to sit down and shut up. The Earl of And-or-Wherever and his mother-in-law The Dowager Duchess of Somewhere-I-cannot-pronounce-let-alone-spell have taken sides and they chose the Cholmondeleys. The Titled Aristocrats and wealthy landed gentry stick together. Titled Aristocrats and wealthy landed gentry do not care for Cathy Cambridge because she is not one of them. The British press is protecting the Titled Aristocrats and wealthy landed gentry, who DO NOT want their names and private lives splashed across the Daily Fail, not Bill & Cathy. This ends my tinfoil hat theory.
@Bay – you know I love a good tinfoil hat theory. I can actually see that making sense, EXCEPT for the daily beast article about William circling his attorneys. But maybe, both things are true – William tried to shut down the story via his attorneys, and the press was like “nah” but then the aristocrats banded together and THATS why the media stopped covering it.
I am dying at your “earl of and-or-wherever” lol.
Royal foibles basically states this theory. And when you resort to litigation, and not even notice of libel type litigation, you aren’t making the story go away. Social media has changed the game.
@Becks1, Do not forget that the Daily Beast is an American publication run by a Brit living in the USA named Tina Brown formerly Editor of US Vanity Fair. The Daily Fail is controlled by a very-very wealthy landed and titled aristocrat.
Hmmm… Interesting theory, BayTampaBay! If true, the aristocrats and Will/Rose are straight hot garbage. How sad and gross that they expect Kate to “shut up and sit down” after her husband and friend committed adultery behind her back?? What a horrible group of people.
@snowqueenM, The rules for aristocratic affairs and swinging go back to Edward Vii. Rule #1: Do cause a fuss. Rule #2: Re-Read Rule #1. I would not have sat down and shut-up if my husband was “trimming the Rose bush”. However, that is the way people operate in the set that Cathy married into. I feel for Cathy deeply for the public embarrassment.
IIRC Harry never really ran with this crowd and I do not see him and Meghan getting involved with the Turnip Toffs. Like Diana, Harry & Meghan seem to me to be more Amal Clooney, Oprah Winfrey, Michelle Obama and Prince & Princess Seeiso Bereng Seeiso of Lesotho than horse trials and fox hunting set.
@bay – okay, I read the Royal Foibles article and I see your theory clearer now. rose doesn’t actually care about people knowing she slept with William, so for her that was something simple to leak as a way to show Kate that she doesn’t hold all the cards when it comes to aristocratic society. Kate cares about the affair leaking more than Rose, so it was an “easy” way for Rose to sort of make a stab at Kate. Interesting.
@BTB, I agree except I think the hate is for Kate more than William. Regardless of what they think of him, he will be the king eventually. But Kate will always be that social climbing commoner, queen consort or no queen consort. Plus the original article painted William as trying to be a peace maker and talked about how much he liked the Marquess and wanted to remain friends. Kate was the one being tossed under the bus and trampled. I don’t see how she will ever recover from this one, at least not with that set. And that part calling herself the “Queen Bee”? Oh no!
@MsIam, I do not think the “hate” for Bill is as great as the “hate” for Cathy but I do think Bills is having problems with the Turnip Toff set as they are not happy with the stupid way he handled this whole mess as in #1) Running to Richard Kay instead of letting the story die and #2) Not handling Cathy so that this “phase-out” did not occur let alone go public. All of this has backfired on Bill Cambridge.
With regards to Cathy, I really feel deep sympathy for anyone who finds out their spouse cheated on them but why is she putting all the blame on Rose. The blame belongs on Bill Cambridge. If Rose Hanbury had not been around Bill would simply have cheated with someone else.
As Kanye West once said in a moment of rare sanity: Haters gonna Hate and Cheaters gonna Cheat.
The Royal foibles article is an eye opener.
It methodically goes down the lane or should I say hedge.
when is first came out I was pretty certain that it was just another rumor, but the way they have handled it has made me believe that it’s accurate.
Not only I’m sure he cheated, I’m sure he threw his sister in law under the bus and threatened the press. Racist and facist, well, a royal.
The Times Shipman article confirms the part about Meghan.
Also, the Piers interview of Thomas Markle was nominated for a BAFTA. WTF.
How was this okayed? Grouping this trashy unethical interview with the other nominees is laughable. Promoting the emotional abuse of a daughter is despicable. Apparently Thomas Markle will be invited to attend as a nominee.
How did this happen when William is the president of BAFTA?
I wonder if William pushed Piers for this nomination to embarrass Meghan.
It’s not what the rticle says.
And even if it’s true that “he reached out to senior media figures in preparation for his roles”,it means that he wanted to build relationships for himself,unlike what he and his brother have done in the past.
In no way it means that he asked the press to exploit her family drama,interview her father and so on.. because the UK press surely didn’t need to new told by him what to do in that regard.
And a lot of stories,when not made up,came clearly from sources inside the “palaceS” (including BP).
It’s also interesting that it specifically says that Harry didn’t feel supported by “the palace” during her whole family coverage,and it has been reported how they refused help from CH’s and BP’s aides to handle her whole family stuff.
By the way,it It’s funny how some people have selectively chosen which parts of the Times article is accurate reporting (when it’s not Cambridges’ leak to do him no favor..) ignoring what that article actually says about the whole royal establishment (including the bit about them feeling exiled in Windsor which should be very telling).
William has a habit of skipping the BAFTAs without excuses. This time around, if he wants to show solidarity with Meghan? He and Kate should skip the event.
I don’t think the issue here is timidness by the British media rather than one of evidence (or lack of it) to back up the claims. If the press were to explicitly make an accusation without evidence then it opens them up to a lawsuit not only by William but also Lady Rose. The media weren’t afraid to expose Charles past dalliances and he is the next in line. Many other high profile figures have also suffered the same fate.
I think some are truly overestimating William’s power!
Yet the British press make up stories about Meghan all the time with very little to no evidence.
There are many stories the royal family have shut down before it reaches the front pages by getting their lawyers involved. You’d be surprised by the sheer amount of stories that don’t get published!
Yes the media make up stories. And it is up to Harry & Meghan to threaten legal action if they so wish. Harry has involved his lawyers many times in the past including when they wrote about him being in a relationship with Pippa Middleton.
As reprehensible as the stories about Meghan were/are, they are not in the same class as a cheating rumor. They are mostly racist, but if I recall correctly they focus on her alleged attitude and spending habits, right?
On the other hand, marriages and family lives are in the line of fire in the case of this William-Rose rumor; they both have children with their spouses. Of course they would try to contain it, if that is what they are doing, considering that their children may read about them once they’ve grown up, or at least have gotten old enough to use the internet.
I don’t fully understand the whole “the children may read about this in 15 years!!!” Do people sit around and google old news stories about their parents? If I did that, and found a rumor that my dad had cheated on my mom, I would laugh my butt off, because it would just be so blatantly false. And I’m sure the royal children are going to be taught to avoid reading tabloid stories in general, especially ones from a decade prior.
@Ceedee: Frankly I think the potential impact of racist smear campaigns on a pregnant older woman is far worse than stories that young children probably won’t even be looking for in 1-2 decades’ time.
With Meghan they had her family selling stories right and left for several months. The press just built in additional lies from there.
Yeah, the whole “but their kids may read someday” argument seems overblown. The Royal Family has done their children a huge disservice if they don’t teach them early on 1) if you google the family – or yourselves – there will be volumes of material to read 2) much of it will be false 3) if there is anything major that concerns you, you will hear about it from your parents and not the press. If the children have a trusting, open relationship with their parents and have been taught well how to put it all in context, they should be just fine.
Furthermore, as unpleasant as it would be to learn that my dad had an affair, it would upset me more to know that my family turned on each other like a pack of jackals and that no one was safe from their narcissism and back stabbing and that I too could become a pawn in the palace intrigue nonsense.
@ceedee because unchecked racism and bullying has zero effect on children? That makes zero sense. A cheating rumour is just that – a rumour until it’s proven otherwise, which isn’t happening since there’s a media blackout. And said rumour isn’t even going to reach the Cambridge children until years from now. Meanwhile the actual unending racist and sexist bullying that Meghan is having to deal with while pregnant has very real mental and physical ramifications for Meghan and the baby NOW.
The Crown script writers will be busy with their pens.
@Ceedee LMAO WHAT? Mostly racist “but”? Where’s this concern for the bullying of a pregnant woman throughout her pregnancy, not letting up once in the last 3 years? What about her kid growing up to read that her mother is a gold-digger, ghetto, straight outta compton, AN ACTUAL PORN STAR–all things that the British tabloids published without evidence. In fact they were straight up lies.
After all the garbage printed about the royals, the kids will grow up learning to not believe anything printed about them. I don’t get this concern for a time in 5-10 years when the kids will be allowed to go on the internet unsupervised or have smart phones, for them to read some obscure comment about them on the internet. What about the stories of William actually cheating on Kate during their dating years? Please.
A public figure like William having an affair is a legitimate news story. Any steps taken to silence that story is an abuse of power. If the story is false then William can have his lawyers serve a notice of libel but he hasn’t done that. Should the Stormy Daniels not have been reported because of Barron’s feelings? Should Andrew’s connection to pedophile Epstein continue to be kept quiet because of Beatrice and Eugenie’s feelings? It’s a dangerous game to play in an alleged democracy to keep stories buried that may be embarrassing to powerful people. If William cheated he deserves no protection and any embarrassment caused to his spouse and kids happened because of his own thoughtless actions.
Very well put, @Nic919.
@Nic919
Those cases don’t compare here though. The difference is that with both Stormy Daniels and Andrew having a connection to Epstein, there is tangible evidence of the stories. Not only was Daniels herself talking about it, she also has proof because Trump and Cohen paid her off and made her sign a NDA. And it is known that Andrew was friends with Epstein because the two spent time together before the FBI investigation. The proof regarding William and Rose is? Neither one has publicly discussed it the way Daniels did and so far no pictures or video of anything suggestive have been revealed. Not having something to rely on other than rumor is the issue here. A reporter is going to want something other than that before going forward with such a big story.
Shutting down a story because you have the power to do so is wrong for anyone who does it and regardless of the story. Outside of the affair being a total lie, which gets handled by a notice of libel, the media openly discussing how they can’t talk about it tells you there is something there. It’s not a court of law. The affair doesn’t need to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt to be reported on by the media, but it is something they would normally report about any other public figure. William is abusing his power here and just because he’s less gross than trump doesn’t make it any better.
The Leveson Enquiry neutered the worse of the U.K. tabloids and they r careful now to avoid being sued. William knows this and is using it to browbeat them into doing what he wants. I also think it’s possible he made a deal to leak stories about the Sussex’s in return for them burying the affair story, hence the leak about the Sussex’s and the Commonwealth work.
Bingo.
“I think some are truly overestimating William’s power!”
@Redburgundy, William has no power. It is the Cholmondeleys that the British Press are protecting because all of the Cholmondeley’s set of aristocrats and rich friends have closed rank around them. The owner of the company that controls the Daily Fail is a titled and land owning aristocrat.
The British Royal press also would like to keep Cambridge as the golden couple , future of monarchy as long as possible. They can’t be seen to be having marriage problems or William tainted as a cheater (allegedly)
Of course the British Royal press wants to protect William.
We’ve been drummed over the head for decades about how golden he.
@90sgir, I never really thought about it that way but you are correct. Prior to Meghan’s arrival, The British tabloid press was always running down Cathy but not Bill. I think you are on to something.
@90sgir – THIS. They also covered up for Edward with a self-imposed blackout when he was involved with Wallis
https://www.theguardian.com/theguardian/from-the-archive-blog/2011/dec/09/edward-simpson-affair-press-1936
Whatever the reason, there is a confirmed media blackout. The person above is not a random person on the street but a former solicitor who used to work for IPSO and he confirmed it.
A BBC journalist named embjournalist confirmed it in his mentions before deleting her tweet.
Another journalist Christopher Wilson is in his mentions confirming a media blackout but he believes it’s voluntary (like when the British media voluntarily chose not to report on Edward and Wallis.
The evidence is there, I don’t know why people keep making up excuses for William.
Twitter was hilarious about this yesterday, so many people calling Wills and the RRs out for this and for the way they have been treating Meghan, it was fascinating to read
I’m looking at #PrinceWilliamAffair right now… it’s still going on!
it will continue for a long time i hope – if will had not used his lawyers and the sunday times article hadtn come out it would have gone away – but there are lots of reporters helping him out by misleading stories so yeah people do notice
It must be true because there has been no denial from the Palace just legal threats, and some jargon about human rights, probably meaning that Wandering Willy has a right to a private life of playing in the Rose Bush.
Just spotted a wonderful new name for him: Community Willy. :0
This site has so much of what I love gossip and insightful discussion of other topics. So, again, while I don’t really twitter, you got me to look. Funny. I just read one tweet that wondered who will play Rose in the 16th season of The Crown? Loved getting that laugh in today.
It could be that he got a super injunction so stop the press reporting on it. David Beckham is alleged to have got one to bury the story he knocked up Harper’s teacher. They r expensive and likely he’s stiffed the taxpayer for the bill, cause u know he’s suddenly keen to b King.
He’s being his usual awkward self in NZ, plus am glad Kate didn’t go with him as at least with William the people and their stories are being reported on and we’re not bombarded with nonsense about what she wore ignoring why she is there to praise how she looks. But then again her appearance is all she has to sell us, ain’t nothing going on upstairs but the lights.
” ain’t nothing going on upstairs but the lights”
Very true! She’s all fluff, no substance.
+1
Would a super injunction be made public? Like on public record/court records?
No, the reason it’s called a “super injunction” is because the injunction itself is the prevention of the publication of the information, and it’s essentially an injunction upon an injunction, because the reporting of the existence of the injunction itself is prohibited. The courts are very reluctant to grant them nowadays, although they might well make an exception for the third in line to the throne.
Thanks @Tina.
It should never be allowed except for national security reasons. Using a secret injunction for nonsense like an affair is completely ridiculous.
@nic919 – ITA but there has been a few celebs who’ve got one. Ryan Giggs (ex Man U football player) got one to hide an affair but would outed by a member of Parliament who wanted to highlight the abuse of the super injunctions by celebrities.
Ryan Giggs, David Beckham, Hugh Bonneville, Elton John/David Furnish, etc.
Bill and the UK press act as if Brits only reads their columns and follow only their new stories and not read other sources available on the internet. It will eventually get out. God help Bill if a hostile power knows and it can release it whenever. It’s not just the lie it’s the cover up.
Worst time to release this mess if true: when Trump comes to the UK for a state visit this June. Maximum press coverage = maximum embarrassment power.
It’s just a media blackout on the affair. According to many that have reported outside of the UK, he’s threatened to sue any UK papers that reported on the affairs. The campaign against Meghan did start with the royal courtiers & only them.
Whether or not the courtiers are the sources of the campaign against Meghan is meaningless. While William was threatening and silencing the media about rumours of an affair, that same media was bullying the shit out of his sister-in-law with horrendous racism and sexism. He had no qualms about letting that shit play out, even though he’s supposed to be supporting initiatives that deal in mental health. He’s a disgusting hypocrite who is equally to blame in all of this.
Why aren’t you blaming the Queen, Charles and Harry for not shutting down negative stories about Meghan? It makes no sense to blame William above all others for the stories that were printed or for not shutting them down. The Queen and Charles are highest in the hierarchy, and Harry is her husband. You may loathe him, but William isn’t responsible for the negative, racist press against Meghan. That was happening even when she and Harry were engaged. Also, it’s possible that BP, CH and KP were actively trying to shut down certain stories behind the scenes, but we don’t know about it.
The Daily Fail, Express & The Sun are not really writing smear stories about Meghan. They are writing stories in such a way that it actively encourages the haters and racist ilk to post god awful comments. It is the websites such “Harry Markle”. “Royal Dish” and “Blind Gossip” that are actively running Meghan into the ground for nothing more than the benefit of making $$$$$$ via point & click.
There were a ton of racist comments about Meghan on the KP social media accounts as William was droning on about cyber bullying whereas negative comments about Kate and William got deleted very quickly. At the very least William can control the KP social media accounts to prevent this.
@Cloudsky
This. Isn’t it normal that Wllliam minds his own business,while Meghan and Harry deal with their own press? You know,they can use lawyers too..
And yes,there’s a good amount of stories that we don’t see because they ALL take legal action. I mean, Charles sent the solicitors for his beach photos..
Let’s even say that KP staff members were leaking stories with his tacit permission,which I doubt it’s what happened when a lot of stories,when not fabricated, clearly came from other households. But let’s say it’s what happened. Some people should ask themselves why other members of the RF who have surely more power than him,and that according to them are big supporters,have not stepped in.
Yes, William has control of the KP staff and social media. He stood back while nasty comments about Meghan were all over that site, but the second it was negative about him the posts were removed. So much hypocrisy from William when he stands up to talk about cyberbullying.
@Cloudysky, because the Queen and Prince Charles weren’t the ones who were responsible for overseeing Meghan’s press coverage and PR. Kensington Palace was. And KP answers to William first. One of the articles in the Times last week also stated that William has been making an effort to reach out to reporters and members of the press in order to build a better relationship with them. By virtue of proximity, William is the first person with any clout in this equation, who could have reasonably done something and didn’t. Harry is not out of line in thinking that his brother should have his back on this matter.
As for why the Queen or Prince Charles didn’t step in–it’s really not their responsibility. That’s what the Kensington Palace press office is for. This is literally their job, and they didn’t do it. And at the end of the day, the senior royals had to step in anyway, because now Harry and Meghan are operating in conjunction with the Buckingham Palace, with the staff of the Queen to support them.
Not to mention, the Queen doesn’t get involved in stuff like this, especially with William and Harry. Multiple observers have noted over the years that she much prefers to take a hands-off approach when it comes to the younger generation of royals, rather than micromanage them to death. She’s there to provide help if they request it, but she isn’t going to run after them in order to make them heel to her demands. That’s not how she operates.
As we learned from the Shipman Times article, the media chose to side with William by slandering Meghan. Regardless of the origin of the smear campaign, the beneficiary has been the Cambridges.
The British tabloids, led by the Daily Mail have been manipulating public opinion against Meghan from the start, and l think that the Middleton’s have been used as a conduit. The rumours are that Rose Hanbury’s people warned the Middleton’s not to attempt to throw their daughter under the bus to save the Cambridge’s.
“The rumours are that Rose Hanbury’s people warned the Middleton’s not to attempt to throw their daughter under the bus to save the Cambridge’s.”
@PrincessK, I 100% believe the above statement. Thanks for the Tea!
If this is still happening on Social Media, the internet is a big place that forgets nothing soooo, he needs to do more than a regular “media blackout”. He needs to stop cheating on his wife-allegedly.
Who are the tweeters in this story, are they in the media or just interested civilians?
The first one is a British solicitor. I googled him last night after seeing the tweet, and he seems legitimate. Like I don’t think he’s just making up lies about the media blackout for twitter followers, you know?
There was actually a BBC journalist who replied to Nazir’s tweet and confirmed that a blackout was in place. She deleted her response after a while though. I’m sure screenshots of it are somewhere on Twitter.
Christopher Wilson (another journalist) also replied with this: “Self imposed blackout. Cf the 1936 Abdication”
Whether this blackout IS self-imposed by the media or if William utilized an injunction, it’s clearly in place.
Yep I saw all three of those tweets.
Confirmed, I saw all tweets mentioned. Also, Nazir used to work for IPSO
I have no idea what IPSO is but sounds legitimate. Glad legitimate people are brave enough to comment on Turnip Toffgate and the fall out.
IPSO is the independent press standards organisation. Nazir’s tweet was clever, and carefully worded.
It’s interesting that the ladies involved have let it go this far as well. Kate seems totally relaxed, so why isn’t she chill enough to show a united front with Rose? If they did this, suddenly everything would dissolve. … The aristocratic set is tiny and shrinking, …what is the point of keeping this going?
Unless it’s all true and she doesn’t want to have anything to do with Rose. Or that the affair was with someone else and Rose is the original source of the gossip. I can’t say I would blame her if she didn’t want to speak to or put up a united front with Rose in either of those cases.
How does Kate show a united front with Rose? Because anything they could have done people would just have taken as proof the affair is true.
Rose and her husband are pissed at Bill & Cathy because Bill attempted to ‘phase out” Rose at Cathy’s request. Rose and her husband have no interest in playing nice at this point as the story is out and almost everyone (who is interested in this type of thing) believes it.
There is also a hint that the Rose affair was more than just a roll in the hay, judging by Mrs Chumley’s behaviour, and if that is true Cathy might have something to really worry about. William is on record as really praising his alleged mistress to the sky.
I don’t think there is a media blackout. I think there is literally nothing for them to report that is is not rehash of what has already been reported. How many times can they report the same thing without any new details? Especially since the story is vague to begin with and there aren’t videos or photos of anything suggestive at this point.
The British press NEVER reported on any affair allegations though. There’s nothing to rehash for them when they never accused William of an affair in the first place. A couple of stories by the Sun and DM about a feud between Kate and Rose resulted in threats of legal action.
Even so, what is there to report other than what everyone has already read or heard at this point? Even if the British press didn’t report on anything yet, everything that has come out has been the same thing over and over again with no real details about anything. The lack of details is what is questionable. The story is all innuendo. With Charles’ affairs there are tons of details. There are even documentaries now about the late Dale Tryon, his lesser known mistress.
But details about Charles’ affairs came well after they actually started. The media was quite focused on propping up Charles and Diana as a fairytale couple until Diana started courting the press. It’s all innuendo until it suddenly isn’t.
But again what is there to report on that people haven’t read dozens of times at this point? I guess I need to for there is be something more, it is the researcher in me.
@kylie – we don’t know what there is for people to report on, because its not being reported, lol.
What we know is tweets from people in that set, stating it is common knowledge? Those were hushed up and deleted quickly.
@Becks1
Nothing is stopping the press from reporting in the global media. The Royal Family doesn’t control the international press. The story is thin and without proof at this point, no one wants to risk their career on it is the reality of what is going on. And tweeting something salacious and deleting is a common attention getting tactic.
@kylie that may be, my point was just that when you keep asking “what else is there to report on?!!?!?” the obvious answer is that we don’t know. Maybe there is more out there (the British press would be in a much better position to find out, since I doubt any TTs are going to run to People mag), maybe there isn’t. But we don’t know what else there is.
@Becks1
Because what else is there without proof? Everything so far has been the same story over and over again with nothing new. If there was something else, it would have come out by now. That is my point. And it is a question that no one wants to answer because then they have to acknowledge that the story might not be true.
If the Sun was served with a letter from William’s lawyers making threats about human rights violations it created what is called a “chilling effect”. Tabloids in the UK normally write stories about everything and anything even if it’s not true. Are we going to pretend that tiara gate was based on hard facts? And yet for some reason there has been zero mention of the affair story in any UK paper, including the tabloids, which is evidence of the chilling effect. It’s not the first time the UK media has done this either.
Basically William created a situation where unless there is a video of him with Rose in a hotel, the UK papers are going to be very afraid to print anything about it.
The Daily Beast reported about the lawyer threats but they are based in the US, hence out of reach of UK law.
“The RF doesn’t control the international press. The story is thin and without proof at this point, no one wants to risk their career on it is the reality of what is going on. ”
This. Why do people expect (want..lol) a cheating scandal on the tabloids’ frontpages if they evidently don’t have anything else to support it and know they will be sued?
And if the British newspapers had some juicy gossip,there’s no way they would have let it gone,even putting that info out via other news outlets.
Some people were sure all the foreign news outlets who are not “on William’s payroll” would have told everything.. That was happening a month ago..
I don’t know why people expect Will to sit relaxed at home when it was clear where some tabloids were going ,while insisting with the rural rivalry gossip. If his legal team sent some warnings,that was their way to let them know they were taking notice.
I don’t think tabloids really risk anything if they *suggest* (mere speculation) that this alleged rivalry may have *other* reasons,but at this it’s pointless if they don’t have something else to add. It’s not worth it.
There’s a tricky balance of powers between the UK press and the RF. They know the media have the power to retaliate on them if the go strongly against them,but the media also knows they can’t lose access. So yes,it’s more a self-imposed blackout that makes perfectly sense for them.
Exactly, Becks1 and Nic919.
But that certainly didn’t stop them when it came to smearing Meghan! I mean how long did we have to deal with the “broken protocol” nonsense about closing the car door or nail polish or touching her belly or the one shouldered dress or crossing her legs and on and on?!
Meghan’s father and half-sister helped with that smear campaign. And it is pretty well acknowledged that the press is racist.
@Royalwatcher, The British press smears and harps on Meghan about breaking non-existent protocol and the supposed cost of her clothes. Talking about an affair between a member of the BRF and high ranking aristocrat is a whole different ball game with a whole different set of rules.
If William is sending legal notices and threatening legal action, there certainly a media blackout in the UK.
Besides the UK Royal press has a vested interest in keeping the golden couple Golden for as long as possible.
This Turnip Toff story would have died, if Richard Kay had not screamed legal action.
Why would a story about two friends having a fall out, need legal action? The Cambridge threat of legal action was a reaction that gave the story legs.
Again, I feel like we need a live action video of William calling up the media and ordering a blackout for people to believe this. We have actual journalists (three) confirming that there is a media blackout. That’s the evidence. To think there isn’t a blackout is to just go by your gut, which is not evidence.
Yeah, some Cambridge fans are delusional and just can’t deal with the reality that Bill sucks.
Because they can’t verify with tangible evidence. If they had pictures, video, or even audio it would have gone live at this point because it would not just be publishing a rumor. The only way a reporter would go forward with the story is if they have something that backs up what they are writing. At this point, they clearly don’t but that doesn’t mean they aren’t looking for it. That is not a blackout, that is protecting one’s self from litigation.
The media themselves are saying it’s a self imposed blackout, which is exactly what William wanted when he sent that letter.
Exactly Bluthfan the Cambridge fans can’t handle the truth. Lil Willy been clapping them cheeks, pruning a🌹bush in someone else garden.
@Kylie Lack of tangible evidence has never stopped the British media from reporting on rumors. There have been whole articles on Meghan being a porn star or her pictures being used as evidence in Kate’s topless photo case, which are verifiably FALSE. There have been whole articles on people’s tweets, which would constitute “rumors.” I’m seeing a heightened standard for veracity of rumors from Cambridge fans who wouldn’t be so generous with all the Meghan slanders.
Twitter was extremely good today.
It’s been trending off and on quite a bit. If there really was any lack of knowledge of this story in the British public, my guess is the whisper network will remedy that shortly.
It’s a global media world, these kind of blackouts are not going to accomplish what they used to. Time for new strategy…and by that I don’t mean throw your sister in law under the bus, I mean don’t cheat!!
@Mia4s exactly.
Someone on Twitter posted a video of Harry, back when Kate was pregnant with George, being interviewed about her pregnancy. Harry said that he was happy for both of them, but hopes that people are allowing Kate to enjoy her pregnancy by leaving her the hell alone. If he felt that way about Kate, can you imagine how he is feeling about his own wife? And worse yet, that his own family, especially his brother or father, could be sanctioning the destruction of his wife while she is pregnant? If Harry had any balls he would take his wife and child and leave the family. Let’s see them survive that!
Yeah I saw that video too. He must be so disappointed that his brother didn’t give the same courtesy and support to Meghan that Harry showed to Kate. And in fact William was actively throwing Meghan under the bus. No wonder Harry can barely stand to look at Will.
William is too snooty and up his own backside. He walks past people who he feels are unimportant, whereas Harry has a kind word for security men and ordinary people who are on duty during royal events. Maybe by ignoring people William is practising to be King, forgetting that he has plenty of time to wait because the Queen will be over 100 before she goes and his father is next.
Just curious – who has the authority to impose a media blackout? Is it only in the UK or are int’l journalists forbidden from reporting on this?
I think it’s more about William’s legal threats and the U.K. media not wanting to be sued. So maybe the “blackout” is somewhat self imposed by the tabloids and papers and news orgs. It’s being reported/talked about in the US and France and Germany (according to people on twitter talking about what they’re seeing in their countries). I don’t think the royal family could impose a blackout in other countries the way they can in the U.K.
Thank you!
“It’s being reported/talked about in the US and France and Germany (according to people on twitter talking about what they’re seeing in their countries).”
These are third/second-tier outlets writing about alleged affair rumors,without saying anything else, which is the whole point.
Reputable news outlets are not going to publish sensationalistic headlines without developing a story with more details that look credible and substantiated by reputable sources.
Also note there is precedence for this to protect the King:
https://www.theguardian.com/theguardian/from-the-archive-blog/2011/dec/09/edward-simpson-affair-press-1936
This weekend marks the 75th anniversary of Edward VIII’s abdication. But in 1936, the British press tried to cover up the crisis out of deference to the King
As if often noted here, William isn’t the king, or even next in line to be king. If the British press had proof of an affair, they would be all over it in no time flat, each racing to beat the other. Or, assuming only one outlet has the scoop, they might choose to hold it until a slow news cycle comes around. That won’t happen until after Meghan gives birth.
We all know he’s not the king. This is kind of intentionally missing the point. There is absolutely evidence of a media blackout confirmed by 3 journalists/media figures and there is absolutely precedence of the British media adhering to a self-imposed blackout. And lack of proof has never stopped the British media before when reporting on the royals, especially not for Meghan. I bet some hard decisions are being made–continue to protect the future king or race to get the scoop.
“The whole world seemed to be in on the story, yet the British press chose to ignore it even though Fleet Street editors knew about the scandal from the start – after all the rakish Edward was known for his indiscretion, and could hardly complain about press intrusion. What really kept the press from reporting on the affair was a gentleman’s agreement undertaken by news proprietors who were mindful of upsetting the King. The result was a media blackout.”
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“What really sparked public awareness of Edward VIII’s relationship with Simpson, and the abdication crisis that might follow, came thanks to the words of Bishop Blunt of Bradford whose pulpit denunciation in 1936 exposed the whole crisis.
With the press no longer gagged, newsrooms hurriedly churned out as much copy as they could in order to satisfy the public’s curiosity. As events moved quickly the style of coverage also changed, with readers given almost breathless coverage, as this Guardian time line of the crisis demonstrates…”
This is all I’ve got. As William’s hairline rose, any teeny bit of personality drained away. He just looks so cold and rigid. He looks like he just smelled a fart all the time. He just never looks relaxed or happy anymore, and hasn’t in a very long time.
True, he used to have more charisma and looked joyous and engaged at times.
In the photos above he looks like he is in pain – or maybe constipated?
One great thing about a blackout in NZ is a focus on Jacinda. I love her so much and she’s a hopeful beacon to me that we can in the US may yet get this type of leadership.
Their has been so many new comments spreading the same rumors about Meghan it’s getting ridiculously first it was Meghan and Harry plotted and started the rumor about the affair.Now it’s Meghan been banned from England or the another rumor that people keep bringing up that Meghan and Harry were throw out of Charles garden party last years . I shudder to think what another conspiracy theories the Cambridge stans will come up with next Just so they can keep up believing the Cambridge are the most perfect future queen and king to ever live .
He looks constipated and smelling something funky.
LOL let it go. No one cared about it when it broke out on the Brit gossip rags. Remember Charles? He had an affair the whole time he was married to Diana. She died. He eventually married his co-adulterer and no one cares anymore in the UK. We’re not preachy/judgy about these things.
Incredibly disappointed in his behavior towards Kate and his family. Deplorable. I hope the Queen strips him of his title and gives it to Harry I know that’s just deluded fan fiction I DONT CARE 🤪 . Poor Diana I’m glad she’s not alive to see this disgrace, can’t believe I am. Sad face.