Earlier this month, Charlie Hunnam was promoting The Gentlemen with his costars, Hugh Grant and Matthew McConaughey. They were on Andy Cohen’s SiriusXM show and long story short, Charlie said some sh-t about his long-suffering girlfriend of 14 years, Morgana McNelis. They’ve been together all that time – with Charlie ghosting her for months here and there – without getting married. Which is fine if both people are not into the concept of marriage. The problem was that Charlie made it sound like Morgana is “very eager” to marry him, even after all of his ghosting escapades, and that he is indifferent to marriage and kind of grumpy about her eagerness. I found the whole conversation very disrespectful towards Morgana. Guess what? He caught hell from Morgana after that interview, and so now he’s walking that sh-t back. Via TooFab:
On his previous comments: “You know what? That was a stupid thing to say… Sometimes the tone of an interview… you know, that interview was just like a lot of banter, and Hugh was sort of bantering in a very superficial — not disingenuous — but not really speaking his personal truth — we’re all just bantering. And all of a sudden we’re bantering about one thing and I get asked my opinion about marriage. I just said something that doesn’t really reflect my true thoughts at all. It’s like being with your pals, sometimes not thinking like… you’re not trying to articulate your sincere opinion about something; and then you see it in black and white.”
On his comment that Morgana is “very eager”: “I have to say that really hurt my girlfriend’s feelings. I really regretted saying that, cause I actually didn’t mean it at all. it was just, frankly, some stupid sh-t I said in the heat of the moment…. I’m like so romantic! The reality is I sort of consider myself married. I’ve been with my girlfriend for 14 years… I suppose what I was trying to articulate was that the official government sanctioning of it doesn’t mean anything to me; but the romance of it means an enormous amount. I really regret saying that. Listen, you spent 12 hours a day for three days doing interviews straight, you’re gonna say some stupid sh-t. Especially a guy like me that’s not that smart.”
So what ARE his feelings about marriage? “Watch this space. Family is very important to me. I was always a late bloomer, I’ve left it a long time because everything was great, and we were just pursuing other interests in our lives. But we are certainly coming up to that time where we gotta start switching it up and changing gears a little bit. It doesn’t really make me nervous because we’ve been together for so long, we’ve been together 14 years, you know? You occasionally hear stories of things changing once you get married, and people’s relationships… but I couldn’t foresee that happening with us, because we know each other so well.”
Let me translate some stuff, Hunnam-speak to English:
“It’s like being with your pals, sometimes not thinking like… you’re not trying to articulate your sincere opinion about something…” = I got in deep sh-t for telling the truth when I thought it was just a “bros only” locker-room type of environment. I did not realize that people – specifically women – would actually listen to this radio show.
“I have to say that really hurt my girlfriend’s feelings” = she was mad at me but what’s she gonna do? She’s already taken me back a dozen times after I ghosted her, so joke’s on her.
“Especially a guy like me that’s not that smart.” = I’m so dumb! At least I’m honest about it!
“Watch this space. Family is very important to me.” = I truly might have to propose to my girlfriend because of a stupid radio interview, which just shows you how dumb I am! And I’ll definitely propose to her if and when she gets knocked up, but don’t tell her that okay? Bros only, right?
Photos courtesy of Backgrid.
He is very stupid, and she’s also dumb for sticking with this Jordan Peterson-loving loser for FOURTEEN YEARS.
I think he will get marry as soon as they broke up and he finds someone knew.
That’s often how it plays out, isn’t it?
I saw a post with both of them in the header photo and just for a second hoped headline would be that Morgana dumped his pathetic ass. But the longer he tries to find an out of this labyrinth looking like he is better than he actually is, I think the more likely it is, she will dump his ass. I mean, first of all, hanging your own mess on Hugh just shows also that he not only disrespected his girlfriend but is more than willing to throw his colleagues under the bus. Even those, who have more talent and status than him. Second, well, he seems like a guy who doesn’t mean to hurt his girlfriend but is so self absorbed he is unwilling to think about her and her wants and needs, about what one should do and be in a relationship and will just apologise, because she is mad.
Well, it just proves a pretty face is not enough, now with all that comes put of his mouth, I can’t even remember why he seemed attractive. Now he looks less that average to me. And all because he opened his mouth and showed us his mind.
This is exactly it. He KNOWS she will not leave him, so he feels like he can say/do whatever – & takes advantage of it.
Remember the pics of him filming that Netflix movie in Hawaii cuddling in the ocean w/a girl that’s not Morgana? He will never do the breaking up. It’s up to Morgana to dump his ass bc he really does seem to be taking advantage of her never leaving, and as of other posters said & I agree: when it inevitably comes to an end, he will likely find someone younger, marry/baby etc. I’ve personally Never found him physically attractive at all. I can’t tell him & Garrett Hedlund apart, truly. So generic.
Ugh. He should have left it alone. There was enough wiggle room to kinda sorta give him the benefit of the doubt that what he said and what he meant could be misinterpreted. But this is so much worse.
I watched the interview and honestly, while the “very eager” comment was condescending, his thoughts on marriage felt honest and totally fine? He said it’s not that important to him. That’s fair. He’s certainly not my cup of tea but if he’s been with his girlfriend so long, they must’ve figured something out. Idk.
I’ve just realized recently how misleading it is to read interviews in print versus watching interviews that are filmed. The tone comes across totally different because you can’t account for people’s intent in print the same way you can when you hear them saying it. And I’m a writer, lol.
Yeah I agree. Also, I could be wrong but I feel like British people use “eager” and “keen” more often than Americans when they are saying they are interested in doing something. In America when someone says eager you picture like someone tripping over themselves to do something.
Kate, that’s a good point.
Of course, after reading this site for many years, “keen” has become code for “I’m going to say I’m interested, but I’m really not”.
She just needs to get out of there. He is showing her who he is.
Do you honestly think this is the first time he’s “shown her who he is” in a 14 year relationship? She knows who he is and how he feels about marriage and commitment.
If she’s upset it’s only because he revealed less than stellar aspects of their relationship and how she’s obviously been cool with it for a longtime. She can take the bs privately, but she can’t stand that others know how f@cked up her disjointed relationship really is.
And I could be wrong… the answer will be if their relationship ends or significantly changes in the immediate future.
I don’t recall saying that this is the 1st time, so…
I do think this could be the first time that she heard how he actually feels about the possibility of marrying her. I highly doubt he speaks like this about their relationship around her, her family or friends. He seems like the type of guy that is one way around his girlfriend, and totally different in bro culture. I’m sure she’d know if she paid attention, but many women are blind in love…
@ Gigi La More Forgive then, I assumed you were giving her the benefit of the doubt that this was the first time he showed his a$$. But if you didn’t think this was the first time then why even say she needs to get out because he’s showing her who he is?
If you recognize he’s probably already shown her who he is multiple times over the years, why do you think there’s much of a chance this particular brutally honest moment will affect her more than all the other times you say you acknowledge?
Gigi’s statement is broadly worded and could include how publicly dismissive he is about her needs/wants for the relationship. That is, I didn’t interpret it as just referring to his thoughts about marriage.
Does he have a small face, or she have a big one? Proportionally, in all these pictures, her face somehow looks bigger than his.
Sorry, that’s all I took away. I think you’re translation is pretty accurate, although I don’t think he’s very articulate.
ok I’m glad someone said it. her face is so weird to me. it’s like someone took two different faces and put them together. her upper face (eyes) are like “normal” sized, and her lower face (nose/lips/chin) look much larger. it’s especially noticeable in the header pic where she has her hand near her neck.
OK, so I just googled pics of her and – WHOA – talk about a chameleon. she looks so different depending on hair color (looks much better with darker hair) and make up. I’m guessing that’s just a bad angle in that pic.
She just has a really big face,head
Same thinking here- like, her face is just really huge? She is pretty, but when they are next to each other, my brain cannot process what is going on with the size.
I’m glad I’m not the only one who noticed. It was super confusing for me.
Did she get her lips overdone at some point?
Meh, at least he owned up to regretting saying it. I kind of thought that’s what he meant as I’ve known guys who have said the same about their long-term girlfriends whom they love. The legal marriage-ceremony part didn’t have much meaning to them but they were happy to do it if their gf wanted it. Not the most romantic opinion and would be disappointing to me if I was said gf, but doesn’t necessarily mean they are holding out for nefarious reasons.
So he’s a blow-hard and she puts up with it.
Here’s the thing: Morgana is a grown ass woman. She’s 36 years old. She is not a victim. She is in a relationship that she ACTIVELY chooses to be in and has done so for 14 years. Let’s not infantilize her by making it seem like she is at the whim of Charlie. If Charlie doesn’t want to get married? So what. A lot of people dont believe in marriage. That doesnt make him a bad guy and it sounds like that’s how he truly feels and has been pretty open and honest with Morgana about that.
Now if SHE feels differently than it’s up to HER to take responsibility for her own choices and decided whether or not that’s a dealbreaker. Clearly it isnt.
What he said in the interview may have sounded bad but it was honest. She wants to get married and he doesnt. Simple as that.
Exactly.
Yes to all of this. My long term partner and I are on exactly the same page about marriage, but of course people are gonna believe he’s just stringing me along cuz that’s how the narrative goes.
I agree. She must be ok with it enough to stay for all these years, and if not, if they truly want different things, then they need to figure that out or walk away.
I also suspect a lot of people see marriage as something you just DO after a certain period of time, not necessarily that they care for the institution itself or think it necessary (particularly if children aren’t involved and both are financially stable), and don’t really think about all the legal implications of it. That can easily complicate how each partner looks at marriage, and frankly, it’s an easy enough to self-examine and say, “Is this something we really need and/or that I want?” and then act from there.
Veronica, yes, that’s our angle. After 20 years, buying a home, and adopting multiple pets, we feel as connected as we can be. We are also both the children of horrible divorces who strongly question marriage. Still, as U.S. citizens we recognize marriage is ultimately a necessity to guarantee health and social security benefits.
Kaiser that was HYSTERICAL.
People will excuse anything from a white man…
I dont think him not wanting to get married reached a level where that statement is warranted. He is (as far as we know) not a serial assaulter or domestic abuser. He’s just a not very articulate dumba$$ who doesn’t believe in marriage. It aint that deep.
I congratulate you on your trolling efforts. Nice try.
I’m sorry, but if she really wants to get married and have a family, she might need to leave him. I would never be with someone that long unless we were on the same page…which it doesn’t seem like they are. If she doesn’t care either way, then keep doing what y’all are doing.
Agree. Also, I must be horribly shallow, or too blasted old,* but after 16 years I’d expect to be known as either his partner or his fiancée. At least respect her enough to give her a title! On the other hand, any guy who has ghosted her for months at a time
sounds like a jerk. Run girl run!
*Oh no, this must mean that I’m both old and shallow. Must re-examine priorities.
I just hate this guy. Any good will I had for him from SOA he has squandered with his thoughtless apathetic douchery
He needs to go away
Thank you for the translation.
Prediction; they get engaged this year, break up and then 18 months from now he’ll have hooked up with a 22 year old, got her pregnant and put a ring on it.
Yup. The long relationship that ends without marriage always means the next one in line is the one who gets the ring and baby. It’s so weird. And embodies the ‘I didn’t want to marry YOU’ sentiment.
I dunno. Some people just aren’t into marriage. Look at Jon Hamm. He just has to be open with her about it, and then she has to make her choice.
You’ve always disliked him, and I’ve never understood it. He’s gorgeously gorgeous. His SOA work was amazing. He’s in one of the longest relationships in Hollywood. And he plays by his own rules not by societal expectations. I’ve never understood why you all don’t fan him as much as I do.
I don’t get it either. The dislike for him is disproportionate to anything he’s said or done IMO. It’s not like he’s Johnny Depp or Brad Pitt. Im not a huge Charlie Hunnam stan but I don’t dislike him. Just saw The Gentlemen and it was actually really good and really funny.
There’s at least one thing I agree with him on: he’s a very stupid person.
I know I am weak but I loved him as Jax in Sons of Anarchy and I have a lot of goodwill for him (mostly because of his pretty face). I don’t think it’s so awful to not care about getting married and only doing so to make your partner happy. He could have worded it better but I don’t think he meant any harm. He seems like the type to talk an awful lot and put his foot in his mouth. I think it’s kind of endearing (I know, embarrassing).
Charlie is divorced he met and married Katharine Towne quickly and split up rather quickly after. So he is probably spooked by the whole process. Not wanting to go through it again.
I also wonder if “Watch this space. Family is very important” has less to do about marriage and more to do about kids. She’s 36 she’s at that age where you have to decide whether to shit or get off the pot. If Charlie is ambivalent about marriage is he ambivalent about having kids if that is what she wants? Then time is an issue now.
He’s also not dumb, he’s written screenplays and turned down FSOG. Horrible movies.
That’s always been my feeling as well. He did marriage once and it didn’t work out and he’s not interested in doing it again. Perfectly valid reason.
He is a self-indulgent prìck and she is a fool for staying with him.
I find him so handsome, but every time he opens his mouth and says dumb stuff like this, it’s like NOPE.
Being a fourteen year relationship without marriage is fine to me if neither partner cares for the institution, but if it’s not what she wants, both of them need to be honest with themselves about what’s fair and break up as necessary. He’s being a jerk if he’s dismissing her feelings, but if she keeps pushing, and he doesn’t want it, she needs to reality check herself and stop trying to change a man and find one that will give her what she wants.
LMAO what a loser.
He’s talking like we didn’t see the callous dismissive attitude in his body language and facial expressions.
This wasn’t a misconstrued print interview where nuance was lost.
This was him sounding like such an utter ass than a notorious curmudgeon and self deprecating commitment phobe Hugh Grant did the Thor is it really meme on him.
They remind me of the relationship that John Hamm and Jennifer Westfeldt had for 18 years….18 years she stuck by him through thick and thin. I believe she wanted to get married and start a family for quite a while, but his fame arc was happening, he was drinking a lot, probably unfaithful to her, not good husband material so they broke up. I felt sorry for her because it seemed a one-sided relationship. Oh he called her more than a girlfriend, and his best friend, and he felt married, but when one partner isn’t on the same page as the other….well, it makes for an uneven partnership. I think she’d do best to dump him after the ghosting and dumb comments.
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