Omid Scobie: The awful stories about Duchess Meghan came from within the palace

The Duke and duchess of Cambridge stand with the duke and Duchess of Sussex at W

Here is a video of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex doing a Zoom call with a “group of young leaders” about social media and the online world, all on behalf of the Queen’s Commonwealth Trust. I’ve said this before, but I wish M&H would stop working with the QCT – H&M were basically run out of England because of Meghan’s race, and now the QCT uses Meghan’s race as some kind of visual tokenism to appeal to the very racially diverse commonwealth nations. I know Meg & Harry care about this issue, but the video is kind of boring. (Also, Meghan doesn’t look pregnant at all in this video, I have to say.)

Meanwhile, Omid Scobie is still doing the promotional rounds, and he did a great interview with The Cut (part of New York Magazine). The Cut says it outright, that the institution of the monarchy ultimately failed the Sussexes and failed to protect them. You can read the full piece here. Some highlights (all quotes are from Omid):

Meghan’s differences were weaponized against her: “But, ultimately, it was her differences that were weaponized against her. All the things that made her exciting at the beginning were suddenly the things that made her annoying or problematic for the institution. Many within the royal press core are the gatekeepers to information about members of the royal family. And that’s why, often, we find that the narrative set by certain British tabloids sets the tone for the rest of a royal’s working career. But I think what was more worrying was that I noticed that a lot of the stories that painted her in such a light were often coming from within the palace itself.

Whether the negative stories were coming from staff or other royals: “We have an interesting system within the palace as a whole. There are different households: Clarence House, Kensington Palace, and Buckingham Palace. Each one has the responsibility to look after the royal family members that they work for. These are the private aides, the communication staffers, the courtiers. They’re the characters that work behind the scenes. Often, it’s a popularity contest: Members of the royal family are almost competing over coverage in the papers. For example, Charles is often frustrated that his children always get more press than him given he’s often the more hardworking member of the royal family, and there are people within his household working to make sure that he gets as much of a prolific feature for his work as possible. Often that leads to jealousy within the different households as well. [Her differences] made Meghan a huge draw for the royals — but being a draw, you will also attract jealousy.

What H&M did to combat the racist, sexist caricatures: “In the summer of 2019, Harry actually had a conversation amongst his team and his senior aides within Buckingham Palace about restructuring that press system and making him and Meghan more accessible to a wider, more diverse media landscape. And the answer was well, If you want to do that, you can pay for your own engagements. And so that was the first seed of, well, Maybe we will break away, maybe we will do our own thing…It’s a shame, because the signs were there internally for a very long time. They really made it known what their grievances were, but it often fell on deaf ears.

The most difficult time, in his view: “It was around the time that there was this obsession with Meghan’s father. There were stories about her parents appearing in some of the tabloids almost every day. They had followed Meghan’s father to a Home Depot and taken a photograph of him buying a toilet, and made a joke that it was his throne. There were photos of Meghan’s mom, Doria, going to a laundromat, and there was a very sort of ugly narrative around that. Meghan had already been called “straight outta Compton” at that point. We saw editorials talking about Meghan’s “exotic DNA” and talking about how she would “water down the blue blood” of the royal family. There was a commentary piece talking about how strange it would be for Meghan’s dreadlocked and nose-ringed mom to sit down and have tea with the queen. And at the same time, the people that were responsible for writing and saying a lot of these things were somehow being enabled to do so. There was almost a thirst for more of it. As a mixed-race Brit on the royals beat I was ashamed to even be connected to it.

[From The Cut]

Scobie sees the most difficult time as, like, the late 2017/early 2018 period of the Sussexes relationship, in case you’re wondering about the timeline. I disagree! I mean, it’s his opinion so whatever, but I think the smear campaign which began in late 2018 was the worst moment. That’s when it felt like all of the jelly haters WITHIN various royal courts were leaking nasty stories about Meghan and it really felt like she could do nothing “right.” The moment Scobie is speaking of was pretty early on in the Sussex narrative, where the British press was exoticizing Meg and treating Meghan as a novelty, because it was almost as if those old white dudes had never before realized that black women exist.

As for what he says about jealousy in other palaces and from other royals and royal staffers… I mean, Scobie knows a lot more than he’s saying. He absolutely knows which royals (and which staffers) leaked which stories.

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  1. Noki says:

    So Scobie is also still part of the royal rota,I wonder how they feel about his access to the Sussexes.

    • Snuffles says:

      Judging by how much Dan Wooten goes after Omid, I would say they are at foaming at the mouth levels of jealousy.

      • Becks1 says:

        Dan Wootton is SO MAD at Omid. It would be funny if it weren’t so bizarre and worrisome. I cant figure out who he hates more, the Sussexes or Omid.

      • Tealie says:

        Dan is upset because he’s foiling the hard work they put into their smear campaign (the only think holding the Cambridges and rest of the RF up) and therefore money. Oh also he’s racist.

    • Becks1 says:

      No, he’s not part of the rota. He’s a royal reporter, but he’s not in the rota. It’s the Express, Sun, Daily Mail, Mirror, Evening Standard, Telegraph and the Times. I may be missing one, but Harpers Bazaar isn’t part of it.

      i’m pretty sure at any rate lol.

      • A says:

        It’s way more than those. It’s not actually the papers themselves but the New Media Association, the print media trade assoc., that deals with the rota. And then the tv people are on the rota, and some photographers’ agencies.

        The whole system is huge and so they put these agencies in charge of getting every possible outlet equal access.

      • Becks1 says:

        Yeah I was looking into it more and it seems overly complicated, to be honest, lol.

      • Hope says:

        Wow, the Royal Rota is four tabloids and three conservative leaning papers.

        Can’t imagine having my work covered mainly by Fox News, the NY Post, and the National Enquirer. At least you would have the Wall Street Journal and the NY Daily News but for such a media heavy country, what is the UK equivalent of the Washington Post or NY Times? It can’t just be the Guardian.

      • Duchess says:

        At this stage he’s not reporting on any royals except for H&M… have you guys noticed he’s even stopped retweeting other royal family tweets or even commenting on them.

        I’m curious about the story there 👀🤔… might just be promotion for the book, the H&M focus?

      • Becks1 says:

        @Duchess – I think its either because he is focusing on H&M as part of his book promotion, or because the other royals have been very quiet. We haven’t seen the queen since the pics from Beatrice’s wedding, I don’t think, and I don’t think we’ve seen Kate since the diaper bank visit (I went and looked at his twitter, and he did retweet KP’s post about it but didn’t actually write anything about it. I don’t think he usually covers Charles that much anyway.

      • Duchess says:

        Thanks for the recon work Becks1😉😉

        I saw that he was in a Mariah meeting at the invitation of roc-nation, which🤯🤯… he’s moving up in the world. I’m happy for him

      • Tealie says:

        VERY fitting they picked all the tabloids 🤭🤭 They know educated people aren’t gonna fall for their bullshit.

      • Tealie says:

        @Hope I said the same, they chose those papers carefully purposely they know the readers are as thick as pig shit and will buy and gobble up anything with a hint of racism and facism.

    • A says:

      The royal rota is a system set up so that all the pictures and sound bites and stuff are freely shared among all the papers and tv outlets that want them. Sort of like the White House press pool. This means fewer reporters have to go see Charles open the latest organic yogurt shop (or whatever), cutting down on costs for the papers/tv news/radio etc and also on security concerns for the royals.

      The big players in print media, especially the tabloids, have absolutely used this system to go after Meghan and Harry. But the system itself is bigger than just those tabloids and was created as a means of corralling the chaos.

      • Becks1 says:

        Thanks for the additional info!

        my understanding though is that it means the royals HAVE to give access to the rota, right? And that was what Harry and Meghan wanted out of, because it meant they had to give access to some of the people who hated them the most.

        ETA understanding based on google and Sussex Royal, which says this:

        Under this system, the rota, or pool, gives these British media representatives the opportunity to exclusively cover an event, on the understanding that they will share factual material obtained with other members of their sector who request it.

      • notasugarhere says:

        In all of this, it came out that Anne doesn’t use the RR. But no one is interested in Anne.

      • A says:

        Yeah! That’s pretty much my understanding too but I am not in any way, shape, or form an expert. I -think- the system itself was made for organizational reasons and over time has come to be dominated and maybe even steered in new directions by specific media players, the ones you mentioned. The Sussexes didn’t have any control over their own stories, certain outlets were abusing their privileges, and the rota system prevented them from doing anything about it. Can’t blame them for wanting fairer coverage than they received.

      • Tealie says:

        @ notasugarhere Very interesting and that would explain alot.

    • BayTampaBay says:

      “what is the UK equivalent of the Washington Post or NY Times? It can’t just be the Guardian”

      WSJ=The Financial Times
      NY Times = The Daily Telegraph and/or The London Times

      However, both The London Times and The Daily Telegraph are conservative Right Wing broadsheets for the UK.

      The Guardian is liberal (more Labour than liberal) Left Wing SORTA like the NY Times and Washington Post. As a rule The Guardian does minimal coverage on the BRF as the paper is small “r” republican in it’s editorial outlook and POV.

      This is the important thing when using labels:

      Right Wing England does not equal Right Wing USA
      Conservative England does not Equal Conservative USA
      Liberal England does not equal Liberal-Progressive USA
      Labour Party UK nor Liberal Party UK does not equal Democratic Party USA

      • MargaritasForBreakfast says:

        BayTampaBay, it seems that right wing Brexiteer England is very similar to Right Wing Fox News sycophant MAGA America. I’m interested in your opinion on what makes it different?

    • Zazu says:

      Omid is not part of the royal rota. Harper’s Bazaar isn’t one of the 7 press outlets that are part of the rota. So he isn’t participating in the cartel of reporters conspiring to commit character assassination of Meghan. He is a royal reporter and travels with the press pack but that’s not the same thing as being part of the rota. However, just being a royal reporter was embarrassing to him given what was happening. Yes, he is protecting sources and not naming names, since he wants to have a future and not burn bridges. But just generalizing what has been happening is probably burning bridges anyway.

  2. Michelleb says:

    Good riddance she left. Who wants to be working for that family anyways. Also, Harry could have seen from the beginning that his family is a vipers nest. And Meghan had the misfortune of marrying into a racist as hell institution. She was too optimistic and in love but honestly I wouldn’t do it. She paid the price for love.

    • ArtHistorian says:

      That’s the thing about the BRF – during the last couple of generations, it has become increasingly clear that it is bad for your mental health to marry into this family/institution. Especially for the women. Diana had a horrible time, as did Meghan and Kate is literally shrinking before our eyes. No woman with a little bit of knowledge about BRF will want to marry into this institution. No wonder that both William and Harry had a hard time finding one who would. Kate wanted to be Queen – and I honestly think that Harry might have painted a bit too rosy a picture to Meghan (though I also think that he didn’t suspect that both the family and the staff would react so negatively to a biracial woman).

      I think George especially is going to have a hard time finding one to want to marry into this mess, unless radical changes are made – and I doubt that given William’s actions.

      It is kind of ludicrous that the family and institution has become so toxic that they aren’t really desirable to marry into. Much like the Japanese Imperial family. Empress Masako refused her husband several times – and I think she really married for true love. And the the Imperial Household almost broke her.

      • Snuffles says:

        Before Meghan, Harry openly said it was difficult finding a woman who was up for the job. Both of his 2 long term relationships left him because of the press, pressure and the institution. The specter of what Diana went through surely loomed large. I’m sure Harry was terrified he would never find anyone who would marry him.

        I think Will experienced a similar reality. Being the future king was enough to get him laid but most women never even entertained the notion of marrying him. If gossip is to be believed, he proposed to at least one other woman during one of his many breaks from Kate and she turned him down flat. Kate was the only one who clung to him like a barnacle on his ass. I’m convinced that Will settled and Kate wasn’t his first choice. She’s just the one who wanted the prize the most.

      • Becks1 says:

        When you look at the Windsors, it really is sad how they treat the women who marry into the family. And like Omid said in an interview – if this was an actual company, you would have HR do an investigation, because something is rotten here.

        I don’t think radical changes will be made before George is old enough to start dating etc – and I imagine he’ll probably experience what William did – people will always want to hang out with him, and women will want to flirt with him, be seen with him, etc, because he’s the future king – but marriage is a whole different story. The time for the big change was now – they could have used this to change their corrupt relationship with the press, to establish different paths for the non-heirs, etc, but they failed.

      • Granger says:

        Totally agree that William settled and Kate wasn’t his first choice. I think his grandmother and father had a big hand in it. They knew a complacent, dutiful, social climber when they saw one, and knew the chances were slim that Kate would jeopardize her role as future queen by causing any scandals or leaving William when he cheated.

      • Sofia says:

        Despite all of this and decades of the women in the family not being treated right, there are probably a lot of Carole/Kate wannabes who are currently prepping their little one to be in George’s path. It sounds sad but it’s true.

        Kate (as did Meghan too) /actually/ watched the Diana years happen in front of her eyes yet she still married William. Meghan was warned by her friends that the British tabloids will ruin her life and yet she still married Harry.

      • NatureLover says:

        @ Snuffles, yes, Limp Wil settled for Kate. If anything, she was just a girl to date but not spend his life with. That is why Her Laziness waited 10 years for a proposal and it would be Carol pushing Limp Wil, with bits of guilt sprinkled with manipulation, for Wil to propose. Her Laziness was determined to marry him no matter the costs and Carol would do anything for that marriage to happen to the point of Carol instructing K to dress, manage her social calendar and call the paparazzi to tell them where she would be. As the shorter skirts and the evenings out were always pictured.

      • notasugarhere says:

        I don’t see Sophie suffering; she uses the system to get what she wants. Ponying up to the bar, playing up to HM, Philip, and the courtiers. Money from the Queen to start her own race horse hobby, ridiculously large house, glamour photo shoots in magazines.

        She’s been wearing plenty of expensive designer gear in the last ten years, and little to no criticism of it. Even accepting private gifts of jewelry only got her a blip of bad press, and she’s been seeing wearing a necklace tiara that someone (Queen, Edward) bought for her. She even had the Queen’s private secretary advocating for a bigger role for the two of them.

        It pays to be boring but not lazy.

      • Becks1 says:

        @Nota Sophie also married in at a good time, by that point William and Harry were starting to get more attention as they were older (William was what, 17?) and so Edward in general was less of a press target. And like you said, they are boring, especially at this point, and its paid off for them.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        “It pays to be boring but not lazy.”

        @nota – I think this is exactly the problem: The courtiers wanted Meghan to be another Sophie. The problem is that Meghan is NOT BORING and is too American not to speak up when she feels she needs to speak out.

        “The only wrong thing to say is to say nothing”; Sophie would have said nothing.

      • Berry says:

        @Becks1 MEghan said that her British friends warned her. They told her that Harry might be a great guy, but that the tabloids would make her life hell. I don’t remember if Meghan said that her British friends warned her about the courtiers as well.

        As for the various households competing for attention, isn’t it ridiculous? They should each focus on their own work and stop being worried about who is getting the credit. There’s a saying that goes something like, “The only people talking about you are the ones that are doing less.” Charles and William should be focusing on doing their part to earn a tiny portion of the enormous priviledged lives they’ve both been given by simply being first born males.

      • kelleybelle says:

        Totally agree with Snuffles, absolutely right on. Kate was not first choice at all.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Granger, the royals didn’t want anything to do with the Middletons. Charles was said to give the same warning to William that he received from Philip. Marry her or cut her loose, because you’re ruining her reputation. William dumped her. Took her back later, seemingly when she agreed to the lifelong cheating agreement. But Kate and the Middletons are something the Windsors suffer through, not something they wanted.

      • Reece says:

        @ArtHistorian I think you hit the nail on the head. Harry probably told Meghan about the press and how bad they are (as did her friends) but I think he was blind-sided by his family friends and staff and the way they acted.

  3. Jegede says:

    Congrats to Omid on this book hitting the NY bestseller list!!

    The RRs must be fuming!😄😄😄

    And ur right Kaiser, judging my the new pics of H & M on Omid Scobie’s feed, I was very wrong.🤪🤪 Meghan isn’t pregnant.

    • Edna says:

      H&M did an event in L.A. yesterday and you can clearly see she’s not pregnant.

    • Edna says:

      H&M did an event in L.A. yesterday and you can clearly see she’s not pregnant.

      • Snuffles says:

        I remain skeptical. Every thing she was wearing is baggy. Look, Chrissy Teigen is currently pregnant and unless she is wearing something skin tight and literally posing so you can see her belly you really can’t see it.

    • Duchess says:

      May this be a lesson for all of us to mind our business and keep our noses out of people’s uteruses 😉

      • Jegede says:

        If I wanted to mind my business, I won’t be on Celebitchy, or any other a gossip board.😉😉

        And my petty side wanted H & M to show up with their baby by next years’ Invictus Games, all while paying the RRs and BRF complete dust!😛

      • MarcelMarcel says:

        Lmao agreed Duchess. I’m ~happily~ childless and I don’t get this fixation on pregnancy speculation. Like obviously I’m all for people having babies if that’s what they want… but the state of ones uterus is a deeply personal topic. Ain’t nobody business unless someone wants to publicly comment on the state of their uterus.

      • Queen Meghan's Hand says:

        I am ~irrationally~ invested in Meghan becoming pregnant this year. Why? In the middle of a pandemic? When she just bought a new house? Moved back to the States? Right before what is sure to be a turbulent election? I can’t answer these questions, but I was terribly disappointed when I saw her in those shorts. I can’t understand my fixation.

      • Original Penguin says:

        Thank you! Duchess.
        Let’s leave Meghan’s body shape out of the conversation, the poor woman has enough to deal with, without us dissecting every pound gained or lost

    • BnLurkN4eva says:

      Parenting is difficult. Maybe they’ve both agreed to one and done. After what Meghan and I suppose Harry also went through last time, I don’t imagine they are in any great hurry to repeat the experience. Also, COVID-19 has turned the whole world upside down, not to mention all the political upheaval in the western world over the last few years. Now might not be the best time to bring a new life into the world. I have heard more people lately saying they are choosing not to have any children, or anymore children, so this could be a conversation H/M are having.

      • Jegede says:

        @BnLurkN4eva -

        Fair enough, but I thought the oppsoite.

        COVID 19 seems to have been opportunity for a baby boom, helped by lockdown privacy: Jessica Biel, Natalie Portman, Leighion Meester, Rachel McAdams, Chrissy Tiegen e.t.c

        Plus, a few anti-Meghan articles in Blighty, have sworn that Archie will be an only child from this marriage. Meg can’t/won’t have anymore.
        Making it easier for Harry to bail and have a bigger family with an English woman. 🙄Used to piss me off.😠😠

        Even now on some RR twitter feeds the comments are “Phew, she isn’t pregnant. Thank God”☹☹

      • HeyJude says:

        That’s possible, but IDK Harry gives me the feel that he’d want a brood of couple kids, 2 or 3. So he could pal around with them in a bunch like he enjoyed with his mom as child.

        I could see Meghan wanting a larger family too, because she doesn’t have a great deal of blood family she can count on besides her mum.

        And really with multiple kids the key is spacing them out a bit. You don’t want to have them close together and end up having 2 kids in the terrible 2s range at the same time. Then the tween moody range. My sibling all had children either in sequential years or within 2 years and it certainly was a handful for all.

      • notasugarhere says:

        I think it would be difficult for Archie if he was an only child, because of his odd position in the world.

      • Tealie says:

        @ HeyJude I agree Harry very much seems like he wants a girl I don’t think they’re going to settle for one Megan too

      • VS says:

        Harry said maximum 2 kids ….

  4. Belli says:

    Gradually we’re getting more and more hints that it was other royals getting upset about the Sussexes’ popularity. Whether they leaked the stories themselves or their staff did it for them doesn’t really matter. The smear campaign was motivated by other royals’ jealousy and sanctioned by at least one of the palaces.

    • VS says:

      Jealousy over popularity…….it is so hard for me to phantom ADULTS being envious and starting a smear campaign to destroy other human beings because of popularity

      • CherHorowitz says:

        This!! it is almost W & K’s one saving grace that my brain is still finding it hard to believe there are adults that would go to these lengths over feeling jealous of someone else’s popularity, so there’s that tiny part of my brain saying no surely not, it’s just silly gossip.

        But ockams razor and all that… it’s very clear at this point.

      • VS says:

        @CherHorowitz — tell me about it! Adults jealous over attention! my goodness, are the 5 year old?
        The weird thing: it is even worse for them now. If H&M are seeing one day, no matter what a royal was doing the day prior or on that day, it is absolutely drawn by news around H&M
        What are they going to do now?

  5. Sofia says:

    Late 2017 is when they got engaged so I /can/ see it as a difficult time because it solidifies their relationship which the courtiers into a panic. A sort of like “Ugh we might never get rid of her!” and then the pregnancy + tour just solidified that even further.

    But Scobie does know more than he lets on. Some of it probably wasn’t in the book because of legal issues but it could be he’s saving it for another book. Especially since this one made it onto the NYT Best Sellers List.

  6. Becks1 says:

    This was a really excellent article and everyone should read it in its entirety. Like you said Kaiser- Scobie knows way more than he’s saying, but even what he’s saying makes the royal households look really bad.

    I would also think that late 2018 and onward was the worst, but I think the beginning was probably really rough too because it showed she was NEVER going to have a grace period. There was NEVER going to be a honeymoon period with the press. They started off strong and kept going. While she did get some good press, obviously, by the time the Great Smear Campaign really kicked into high gear, after the Oceania tour, it was already kind of expected that the papers were going to cover her poorly.

    I do like how Omid specifically points out that the narrative surrounding her was one actively pushed by “the palace” – courtiers, family members, whatever – like the idea that she was a really demanding boss, or the 5 am emails which we STILL debate, etc. That stuff was being told to the press for a reason.

    Omid gave an interview this week on True Royalty – I think we discussed it in part – but I saw a clip on twitter yesterday specifically about the night nurse, which I thought was interesting. He said they wanted to include the specifics around the incident in the book, but legal said no, and I imagine that happened with a lot of stories – so when we read it and say “I wish there was more detail here” – there probably was, and it got taken out. Anyway, the interesting thing about the night nurse story that he was talking about was how they wanted to be specific because it was something that had gained traction in the press and H&M were never allowed to correct it or share their side. So the story was out that they had fired this person after a short time, but they were not allowed to defend themselves, so it was just “H&M are horrible bosses and no one wants to work for them.” They would never have said the exact reason for the termination, but if they could have even said “the stories regarding recent employment decisions are false” or something like that. But they weren’t allowed to even do that.

    • Ginger says:

      I will always wonder about the night nurse. I can’t think it’s TOO bad because if it was she would be in jail and they would never have another nanny. They just didn’t feel comfortable having another night nurse. I think she fell asleep or took pictures.

      • Becks1 says:

        I think it was pictures as well, and I think she was being offered a lot of money for them, which is why the tabloids didn’t want to talk about it(besides using it as another way to demean and criticize Meghan.)

  7. Emma33 says:

    I thought that part about her differences being weaponised against her was interesting, because it reminds me of what happened to Fergie. I was just a child, but I remember when she came along she was a ‘breath of fresh air for the stuffy royal family’ and ‘down to earth’. Then later, those qualities were used against her and she was presented as ditzy and frumpy.

    I remember one magazine in Australia had her on the front cover because at some event she saw an ladybird (or something like that) on the ground and bent down to look at it closer, so she was raked over the coals by the press. I know Fergie turned out to be a flighty grifter, but she was pretty innocent to begin with.

    After seeing the press turn on Fergie, what happened to Meghan (and the ferocity and speed with which it happened) was not really surprising to me.

    • Aang says:

      I find the Duchess of Pork to be as cruel and misogynistic as anything thrown at Meghan. With Meghan they had the extra weapon of race but Fergie got it bad.

    • Jegede says:

      An actual headline blared – “Would you rather sleep with Fergie, or a goat?”

      I kid you not. 😮😮😮

      Sarah Ferguson was debased in the worst way.

    • notasugarhere says:

      Fergie was also the one given the original Duchess of Doolittle title. She was doing fewer engagements than the Queen Mum at the time. Sarah had both a friend and enemy in Diana. Whenever Fergie was getting good press, Diana would rush out and play games to get press attention. Posing on the top of Charles’s car at a polo match was one example.

    • Nic919 says:

      I felt bad for the negative coverage Fergie got when it related to her looks as they were quite mean. But whenever she started to grift, that’s when I didn’t feel so sorry and especially not now knowing she dealt with people like Epstein.

      • Emma33 says:

        I agree…looking back, it is hard to have much sympathy for her. But at the time, she was ridiculed and belittled just for how she looked, it was so cruel.

    • A says:

      @Emma33, well, the thing with Fergie brings up a good point, right. She simply went too far. After a certain point, there was just too much of Fergie. And at that amount, it stopped being charming, and starting wearing incredibly thin. At the same time, Fergie got thrown under the bus by the palace gears big time.

      I think the problem with the royal family then is the same as it is now. They countenance change, until they don’t want to. Until it gets to be too much. Until it starts being uncomfortable. It’s all fun and games in small doses, but then when the change grinds on, there’s the inevitable backlash.

      The major difference between Fergie and Meghan is that Fergie is a money-grubbing grifter 100%. I’m sorry, I don’t want to say it, but that’s the truth. She wouldn’t have gotten into half as much trouble if she hadn’t been so eager and willing to cash in like that. Andrew is no better than she is, but she took her place as his and the royal family’s fall guy, so she got the brunt of all the blame.

  8. Noki says:

    How does one become a part of the RR ,do you ask/apply or does your editor chose for you that you will be writting for royals news,politics,sports,showbiz etc ?

    • Becks1 says:

      I think there is an actual application to be part of the rota, but I guess if you’re “just” going to cover the royals, it comes down to your network and your own abilities. Like Tom Sykes at the Daily Beast covers the royals but is not part of the rota – Keir Simmons isn’t, Omid isn’t, etc. The rota means that they share the info and pictures etc.

      http://www.newsmediauk.org/Industry-Services/Royal-Rota

    • anon says:

      It’s very similar to being credentialed for the White House Press Pool or the Supreme Court, in which you have to fill out paperwork and your editor/publisher has to vouch for you and you have to go through a background/secret service clearance. I’ve covered both, so I imagine there are similar rules and requirements for those who cover the BRF.

      That said, the Rota is much slimier and able to get away with just about anything that we, as American reporters, would be fired for in covering the White House or any other government agency that credentials reporters. They literally have no guardrails and can say just about anything about anyone with the lone exception of the Queen herself.

  9. ABritGuest says:

    People like Richard Palmer and Dan Wootton have been saying since 2019 that the nasty stories have been pushed by the Firm. Obviously those type of papers love misogynoir so they need no excuse.

    I’m pretty sure the majority of the English mainstream media knew that the Firm didn’t care for Meghan& wouldn’t lift a finger to protect her so that’s why the attacks were so ferocious and widespread. It just goes to show that all of them (including Omid& Carolyn by keeping quiet) went along with the smear campaign as I’m sure they all knew the truth of these stories& why they were being briefed all along

    • Becks1 says:

      Remember that interesting tweet from Emily Andrews a year or so ago? Something like “I don’t hate Meghan, I actually like her, I think she’s energetic and fun” and then she said something about how she is “ruffling feathers” or whatever at the palace and EA has to report on that. I cant remember the exact wording but it was very clear from it that she was being fed negative information about Meghan because “someone” – courtiers, other royals, whoever – had a problem with her .

      • Alexandria says:

        Becks, if this Firm was a proper private organisation, HR would step in to mitigate the racist attacks and microaggressions Harry and Meghan faced while trying to work. And if HR did nothing, HM could call the anonymous staff hotline. And if that did not work, a third party mediator or union would step in before litigation. But nah, they were supposed to grin and bear it.

        I doubt the Firm even had real training for the married ins (after so many years!), an annual appraisal for the working royals and a proper diversity training in place.

      • Nic919 says:

        Emily said it in a nicer way than Richard Palmer, but both were saying that Meghan was unprotected by the palaces and thus fair game for incessant and unfair attacks.

    • MarcelMarcel says:

      Really grateful to see other commenter use the phrase misogynoir. It encapsulates now Meghan was treated by the press and the institution. She was literally punished for existing as a visibly black womxn.
      I was a Republican before all of this (see Gough Whitlam. Our democratically elected Prime Minister was ousted by a representative of the Queen). But I’m now LOUDLY Republican because f**k the monarchy for bullying an innocent womxn!

    • Olenna says:

      Hmm, Lil’ Dickie Palmer? Let me just leave one of his latest Twitter gems here to ponder:
      “I think they all tried, including the Queen – think back to the pre-wedding invitation to Sandringham. Nothing was ever good enough for Harry and Meghan though.

  10. Genevieve says:

    I didn’t find that video boring at all! Such wonderful people doing wonderful things and talking about the toolkits they’re building to find hope and possibility in the future is exactly the kind of content we all need right now.

  11. BayTampaBay says:

    Why in the world if the wanted to” restructure” the way they interacted with the British Media would they have to pay for their own engagements?

    Does the British Media subsidize the cost of Royal engagements? This statement by the courtiers makes absolutely no sense to me.

    There are some important details missing here.

  12. Alexandria says:

    The more I read about AK and these courtiers the more I suspect they are one of the reasons why Queenie has not yet retired and made Charles regent. I think they want to remain needed and important just because they serve the Queen.

    • Hope says:

      Don’t underestimate Liz’s love of control and being the one in power.

      How petty is it to name your heir Charles when there are such negative connotations in British history or to be a bit distant and then strongly favor your second son instead? Or shrug when your daughter in law asks for help even though this effects both your heir and the parents of the next heir?

      Between Angela Kelly and Andrew, Liz also seems to love using her power to protect people who bow and scrape with her but are horrible to other people. Also so many of the people around her, her mother, sister, husband, were obnoxious and mean-spirited.

      • Alexandria says:

        Oh don’t worry, I don’t disagree she loves her God-anointed power. That’s why I said the viper courtiers are just one of the reasons she’s still up there as Queen.

      • ArtHistorian says:

        We shouldn’t forget how traumatic Edward VII’s abdication was. British monarchs simply don’t abdicate! That’s it – if they don’t die on the throne it is because they have been deposed or murdered. I don’t think that Liz would ever consider abdicating because that is simply not done! I don’t think that there are any deeper reasons.

      • Sarah says:

        I agree with @ArtHistorian this is just not something she would contemplate, you die on the throne, that’s how it’s done here. Edward was a massive shock to this ancient institution and she will never be party to anything even remotely similar.

      • Jaded says:

        It was actually Edward VIII who abdicated, Edward VII was king until his death in 1910. That Edward VIII abdicated while Europe was descending into a massive war with Germany was the height of selfishness and pitched his brother into a role he didn’t want and was ill-prepared for. The Queen mum was his best ally and support, the woman had a backbone of solid steel.

      • ArtHistorian says:

        I forgot as numeral, lmao.

        Edward VIII might have been selfish, but at least Britain didn’t have a king that was friendly with the enemy.

    • Ainsley7 says:

      I could see that being at least part of it. Charles hates AK. So, she would lose all her power if Charles took over. It’s pretty clear that AK likes being the gatekeeper to the Royal jewels. I think it’s telling that Camilla’s jewelry is mainly the Queen mothers or new. The Queen mother left them to The Queen for tax purposes, but designated some of them for Charles. So, AK doesn’t control a large portion of Camilla’s jewelry. Otherwise, I do think she would have pulled the same nonsense that she pulled with Sophie, Kate and Meghan.

      • Alexandria says:

        @ArtHistorian yes but Edward’s abdication was mostly scandalous and a shock because he abdicated to marry a divorcee who was American. And internally, the courtiers were of course worried about his support for the Nazis so he gave everyone a headache. And those years were really unstable for Europe. If Queenie stepped down now and made Charles regent and do this systematically and use effective modern PR now, it can still be done without a shock. Philip managed to retire in peace. The royal family has had multiple divorces and remarriages. And she is old. She is not stepping aside to marry a divorcee or proclaim she is a communist / Satanist or that’s she’s gay. She could say she is stepping aside to enjoy the rest of her old age and that is reasonable to an average person if the PR campaign was done well by the Palace and the government. Having said that, you know the UK better so I think your point is still valid. Also, if she wanted to step aside, she should have done it maybe 5 years ago. Now the UK is undergoing Brexit so the ship has sailed. She has to be the ‘beacon’ of stability now amidst Brexit and Covid.

      • ArtHistorian says:

        It is perfectly possible to make a smooth abdication process like in Holland. My point is, however, that in the mind of the Queen abdication is not an option. Queen Margrethe II of Denmark is much the same. Actually, only the Dutch RF has made a kind of tradition of abdication. Belgium has has a few abdications but that has been under special circumstances as it has been in Spain.

        Within the historical tradition of monarchies abdications are generally seen as the exception to the rule (as are depositions and regicide). Abdication is simply not the mindset of these institutions – unless they are absolutely forced. Only the Dutch RF is the exception here. I actually think it is a good idea – because the family can celebrate the accession of a new monarch without grieving a recently dead one.

      • notasugarhere says:

        The Luxes do abdications too, but the ages vary. The late Grand Duke Jean waited until he was 80 to abdicate, while his mother abdicated at 68.

      • Tessa says:

        I hope she does not abdicate which would push William further up the ladder which to me would not be a good t hing.

      • Tealie says:

        @ Alexandria people always like to say it was because she was a divorce but it wasn’t because she was a divorce, it was she was married when the relationship started which made it even more greasy. I always wonder though why they didn’t have kids?¿

  13. MarcelMarcel says:

    First of all, I genuinely respect Omid for criticising the institution on a macro level instead of just disclosing names. I think it allows him to communicate his points without getting lost in mudslinging. And let’s face it- he could make bank by capitalising on petty asides.

    Second of all, I wonder how much social media and the internet impacts the discussion around Meghan, Harry and Archie? The BRF can’t fully control the narrative by strategically leaking to the tabloid press.
    Because of the internet I can find critical analysis of misogynoir written by feminists. Obviously Meghan is not the first womxn to be mistreated by the BRF. But in the past we were dependent on the analysis of (mostly) white gatekeepers. It’s interesting watching the counter narrative unfold and gain traction.

    • Lady D says:

      MarcelMarcel, can I ask why you use an x instead of an a in the word woman? You can tell me it’s none of my business and I’ll cheerfully understand, I’m just curious about the x.

      • diffraction says:

        Lady D – this is from Wikipedia regarding the X:

        The term Womxn (/ˈwʊmɪnks/), used by some feminists, especially in the intersectional feminist movement, is one of several alternative spellings of the English word woman. It is used to avoid the spelling woman (which contains and derives from the word men), and to foreground transgender, nonbinary, and women of color.

      • Lady D says:

        Thanks, @diffraction:)

      • MarcelMarcel says:

        Hi Lady D! I basically use it for because of the reason Diffraction gave. It’s meant to be more inclusive, especially towards my trans sisters and non binary folk. There are other variations of the word woman. I like womxn cuz only one letter is changed. So I hope my meaning is still clear to people unfamiliar with the concept.
        I would like to humbly recommend Uses of Anger: Women Responding to Racism by Audre Lorde. It totally blew my mind and shaped my understanding of intersectional feminism. ☺️

    • notasugarhere says:

      The Palaces control what they do and don’t delete from their own social media comments areas. KP always deletes negative comments about William or comments about Rose, but they allow the anti-Meghan trolls to run rampant.

  14. Ainsley7 says:

    I could see the time when the press was obsessed with her father being the worst. I mean, It’s one thing for the press to be printing negative stories about you, but it’s quite another for your father to be supportive of the press that is vilifying you. Her relationship with her dad before all this seemed to be pretty good. Even if things had been difficult with him in the past at times, she had clearly found a balance with him. I don’t think she ever expected him to go so far. She still believes he was manipulated by the press. I have always thought that too because we didn’t hear anything from him until the press approached him about improving his image because it was hurting Meghan’s. He’s clearly got mental health issues. We don’t know exactly what they are, but Meghan does. So, I think she’d know best if he was being manipulated. His behavior crossed so many lines that she was forced to keep him out of her life. So, on top of everything else, she was likely grieving the loss of her relationship with her father. Imagine being newly married, in a new country, pregnant, in a new job with staff/coworkers that are constantly sabotaging you/ leaking, constantly vilified by the press, finally your dad literally turns on you out of nowhere, everyone is blaming you for it, and you have to cut off all contact. That’s a lot.

    They started moving away from KP and hiring their own staff after that. Being able to trust their staff, and being in a position to better plan how they wanted to work in the future would have lessened their stress. Which would have made the press a little easier to deal with because their was a possible light at the end of the tunnel.

    • AGreatDane says:

      Back in 2017, Meg’s ex-friend Neeka Priddy sold videos of a high school senior Meghan driving around LA and she mentioned she wasn’t speaking to her dad. This was around 18. There have been at least 3x in her life that Meghan wasn’t on speaking terms with her dad and they all involved Scamantha Markle coming around. Her dad has always been this person and she’s always walked a tightrope while dealing with him.

      • Tealie says:

        Yeah I agree although I haven’t seen the videos and stuff, you can tell this isn’t new for Thomas Markle. One doesn’t suddenly jumped from being a loving protective father to completely grotesque self absorbed narcissist who likes to debases child on TV and live whilst selling the personal letters in which they say how much they love you and mock it. This is very cleary something that has always been with him and I’m sure he has done before and even if on a microscale. His ex-wife Roslyn Markle – the one who is raising Samanthas children. Said he was very much abusive and toxic and that Megan was doing the right thing to cut him off completely. She even shared anecdotes which I actually believe of him refusing to feed their children and letting them starve was he spent it on gambling, alcohol and gaslit her.

    • Amy Too says:

      Late 2017-Early 2018 is also when Meghan and Harry were still living and working very closely with Will and Kate and KP. And while there was a lot of smearing that came out late 2018, so many of the stories were apparently from like a year ago, leading up to the wedding and from the time they were working at KP. Once they got away from working at KP and were living in Frogmore, they had a lot more autonomy (but still not as much as they wanted), and they were working with their own team that they trusted more. There weren’t as many leaks or stories about her in real time. Mean stories were coming out then, but the stories were usually based on stuff that had happened during that late 2017-early 2018 time. So late 2017-early 2018 was a time when they were dealing with all the smears about her being black and american and a “sex worker,” and all the racist/classist crap about her mom, AND all the crap her dad was pulling in real time right before the wedding, AND “friends“ and Samantha selling stories and pictures and videos, AND they were dealing with all the annoyances/workplace issues that would eventually become the basis of the late 2018 smear stories, AND they were attempting to plan their wedding and coming up against Angela Kelly and Kate and her tights/hem issue, and whoever was scandalizes about scented oil diffusers. There was a lot going on then.

  15. S808 says:

    Dan Wooten himself told us that the stories were coming from the palace. I still think the time during her pregnancy was the worst. It became clear the smear campaign was out of control and was driven by both the palace and the press. The woman was crucified for touch her pregnant belly! They weaponized her father against her. At that point, it got worse and it seemed like the goal was to stress her to the point of a miscarriage. The RRs seemed (& still do) to have a personal vendetta against her. What happened to her during that time was violence to me. There was a clear intent to harm.

    • ABritGuest says:

      The press have been disgusting with the other royal wives but Meghan was practically accused of helping to fund Islamic terrorism because of the cookbook. That was beyond dangerous with far right nationalists being regarded as the biggest terrorism threat by the Met Police currently & rabid anti Muslim narrative in the press.

      The Thomas Markle stuff was also very cruel as the press knew they would intercept communications it Meghan contacted her dad making it impossible to do and then blamed her for cutting communications.

      That times article allegedly quoting a senior royal that Meghan was Harry’s degree wife was particularly cruel as it came out a month before she was due to give birth. Their families suck (except Doria).

      • Alexandria says:

        @Abritguest it definitely shows how privileged the Palace and BRF are. If they could see beyond their bubble they should know that Harry marrying a non white person would trigger potential death threats from radical racists. They should have shut this type of malicious gossip down right from the start.

    • Lady D says:

      BP sent her to a zika infested country when she was six months pregnant. They wanted that baby gone too. Yes, a clear intent to harm.
      I know she could have said no, but at that point she was probably desperate for some decent publicity. She might also have found the tour an exciting idea.

      • notasugarhere says:

        She didn’t go on that part of the tour. That’s part of why the pregnancy had to be announced, because there had to be last-minute changes to that tour.

      • Alexandria says:

        Imagine if Kate was accused of helping fund IRA or Muslim terrorists. Imagine if the three kids were compared to an animal. I believe the Palace would be swift to act.

  16. Ray says:

    That header image! God, she’s beautiful.

    • VS says:

      She is; in FF, H said she is the most beautiful woman he has ever seen/met (can’t recall the exact word);
      She has such a photogenic face my goodness; I hope their kids take after her, not H…
      Unfortunately Archie is a copy of his father…. LOL. There are women who have those faces; just stunning to look at: Angelina being a prime example

      • Alexandria says:

        I don’t know about stunning, absolutely she has her moments. But she is hands down photogenic. I really envy that because I look either angry or sad or sick lol.

      • Ginger says:

        I think Archie is adorable.

  17. Sushiroll says:

    Watering down the “blue blood” is a GOOD THING. Thanks to Meghan, Archie will probably be gorgeous, intelligent as hell, and will have a full head of hair. And won’t look or act like a PWT.

    lmao @ this antiquated blood line purity bullshit.

    • Alexandria says:

      That blue blood reference…if they meant common blood, did these idiotic reporters forget about Sophie and Kate? Zara’s husband? No they didn’t. They wanted to say white person blood so jolly well come out and say it, why don’t you. Just another instance of pretending they’re not racist.

    • Lizzie Bathory says:

      Right?! Did they want another Habsburg jaw situation? Jk, I realize it’s all just white supremacist bullshit.

    • Andrew’s Nemesis says:

      @SushiRoll Even the phrase “blue blood” is exceptionally racist and imperialist, because it refers to skin so white and translucent that the blue veins can be seen clearly.
      I hate the RRs (barring Omid) with the heat of a thousand suns and hope that they inadvertently scupper their own narrative: by turning on Penis With Teeth and Wiglet, as they slowly but surely are due to absolutely no access to Harry and Meghan, they’ll reveal the source of all the leaks and the part they themselves played in it. I hope it brings down the monarchy. The world needs people like H&M who have a burning desire to do good. There is no place for being given first prize because of the order you emerged from the birth canal, and the ludicrous public subsidies your privilege entails. This is the C21st. As long as the Royal Family exists, misogynoir will be a fundamental element of the status quo. We can’t change or evolve the Firm. M&H tried and their efforts were rewarded with heartbreak and betrayal. It must be completely eradicated.

  18. Feeshalori says:

    That’s what you also call selective memory, Alexandria. They’re conveniently forgetting about the commoner married ins who pass muster.

  19. Elisabeth says:

    To be honest, the more i hear about H&M, the more I wonder why Prince Harry is still talking to Prince Charles then? Because when you start thinking about what they went through, you would want to leave for good and never talk to any of them?
    How can he still be friendly with the Queen then? She definitively didn’t protect him so I must admit the situation is still unclear to me…

    • Andrew’s Nemesis says:

      @Elisabeth Right? Charles’s betrayal of Harry through his silence on the filth thrown at his son and daughter-in-law is as wounding as Thomas Markle’s loudness. The only difference is that Charles’ behaviour is deemed “more dignified” because he didn’t pollute the airwaves. Poor, poor Sussexes.

    • Amy Too says:

      The quotes by Omid really so emphasize that Charles at Clarence House was often upset about being overshadowed by his kids and was often angry and jealous about his coverage being cut short when he was working so hard while his kids’ coverage was amplified for doing literally anything. Finding Freedom also talks about how Harry decided to release one of his letters to the press regarding their racist and sexist treatment of Meghan while his father was on tour and how Charles only learned about the statement 10 minutes before it was released and how he was upset about it. The books goes on to say that while he was angry and blindsided by the spotlight being taken away from his tour he “understood” that it needed to be said. Omid really does seem to be trying to shine the light over towards Charles, or at least the courtiers at CH, quite a bit. And we all noticed that lots of smear stories came out right around the same time Charles’s latest biography came out, with the author of that biography using information he had gathered when interviewing for the biography to start stories and smears. I wonder if Charles is much more involved than we thought. He’s thrown his kids under the bus before many times and Harry has quite an on/off difficult relationship with him. We’re all giving Charles so much benefit of the doubt, assuming that he fought for them but couldn’t win against William. Why are we so sure of that theory?

    • Royalblue says:

      Yes, I have been saying this all along. Do not underestimate the role that Charles has played in this whole thing, and in doing so has masterminded it so he comes off looking clean as a whistle.

      Charles is the Future King! In the hierarchy he trumps William. With one phone call he could have put an end to the smears coming out of Kensington. What he says goes. He put his foot down and said that Andrew had to go after the disastrous interview. Not the Queen. Charles had to step in. He has the power and neglected to use it when AK and Kensington were waging a one-sided war against the Sussexes. He is complicit. A parent’s betrayal is the deepest. But guess what, Harry has to keep playing nice because that’s his financier until he gets on even footing so that’s why Omid is being tactful about Charles and the Queen. It doesn’t make sense for Harry to go all out against the Queen, Charles and William. He needs to keep two on his side.

      • Dee Kay says:

        Charles is smart enough to know exactly what is going on at all times, but he chooses NOT to use his power on his sons’ behalf. This was particularly glaring in the case of H&M. One word of support from him would have meant a lot, but no. He saves all his firepower for very specific things — for Camilla, against Andrew, and most importantly, for himself. I feel like we learned a ton about Charles in the way he treated Diana — rather than be gracious about her immense popularity, and enjoy the fact that his young bride was a smash hit, he was insecure, jealous, greedy for attention, showed his resentment in public, and held her popularity against her. We know he wasn’t in love with her but couldn’t he have been more understanding, more supportive, or at the very least, polite??? NO. That’s who Charles has always been: smart, yes, but selfish, and deeply insecure when it comes to the press and public opinion.

    • Tealie says:

      I honestly don’t think they are anymore as of the last 2 months. Which is why the leaks as little as they were about their address and liscencing for projects kept appearing. I think they started off by giving them brief communications such as “hi! This will be our contact address” and ‘Meghan and I are thinking about doing this project what do you think?’ but I think after the drone thing and their address undoubtably being leaked by KP through mouth piece they realised niceness and being couth wasn’t going to work even though they were gone and they FINALLY (thank god) cut off communication.

  20. Vanessa says:

    I think the smeared campaign started for inside the palace they refused to defend her when the press become savage towards her . And then the palace did this half assed both Duchesses are victims of social media abuse to have them look like care . But Meghan was the target from the beginning I think jealous played a huge part of the smeared campaign I think William and Kate were taken back by the level of Meghan and Harry star level and were jealous and wanted all the attention for themselves.

  21. Aerohead21 says:

    What’s sad to me about the “straight out of Compton” statement is that by all stretches of the imagination, Meghan’s life was NOT as challenging for her as it is for quite a few ethnic minorities and black people within the United States. It sickens me the amount of racism behind that comment.

  22. justsaying says:

    “the answer was well, If you want to do that, you can pay for your own engagements.”

    This is so laughable. So Harry and Meghan wanted to broaden the royals’ reach within the media, which would be, you know, doing the Firm a service by trying to make it more relevant to more people, and top aides told them that to do that they would have to start paying for the privilege of representing the Queen at the engagements that she’s unable to do herself because there are too many for one person to do alone.

    So, essentially, Harry and Meghan went to management with a suggestion for how the company could increase its media presence for the company’s benefit and management’s response was “if you want to do that, then you have to start paying to work here.”

    • BayTampaBay says:

      ““the answer was well, If you want to do that, you can pay for your own engagements.””

      What is the reasoning behind this comment. I can think of none whatsoever. Zilch!

    • Royalblue says:

      And what do they mean by pay for your own engagement? Does that mean buy your own clothes? Pay for your own transport and security? Pay photographers to be there?

      How indeed does the firm ‘pay’ for these engagements?

    • February-Pisces says:

      So harry and Meghan have to ‘pay to work’, whilst Willie and Kate get ‘paid’ for doing f*ck all? The firm is going down the toilet and it’s all the courtiers fault.

  23. Eeeeeeetrain says:

    That Ireland tour was her most radiant IMO. Halcyon days…

    • L84Tea says:

      That gray dress she wore at their arrival–one of my all time favorites from her. Just gorgeous and so chic!

    • Florence says:

      Gorgeous, right? The cut of it and how it looks on her is amazing.

      Compared to Katie Keen in Cosplay Green…

  24. Elizabeth says:

    Really don’t think she’s pregnant. Saw footage of the Sussexes out volunteering and there really didn’t seem to be any indication she was pregnant or at least she wasn’t very far along if she was.

  25. Steph says:

    Hey I am having trouble reading the comments from my phone for the last couple of days. I can read them on a computer, but they are not visible on the cell. Can you trouble shoot the issue? Thanks!

    • Ames says:

      Not sure what kind of phone you have, but my iPhone has been doing the the same thing. I figured out it’s a content blocker. If I want to see comment boards, or even some photos/videos, I have to click on the two A’s in the upper left corner. This opens a drop-down with a “turn off content blocker” option.

      If you don’t have an iphone, this is probably completely useless, so … good luck.

  26. Liz version 700 says:

    It is so funny that Meghan got so much grief for her dress costs (especially when Kate spends crazy amounts on 700 coat dresses.). In every video we have seen since they left, Meghan has look fantastic in very casual affordable clothes.

  27. Zen says:

    “…From within the palace” but which palace? Buck House? Kensington? Clarence House? Royal Lodge (York)? There are so many. Or did it come from all of them? Omid doesn’t specify.

  28. MsIam says:

    I don’t know, for me the worst time seemed to be around the time she gave birth to Archie. All of that craziness in the press about when and where she would give birth, when the baby would be presented etc. Although the book makes it seem like Meg was pretty zen, that had to be so awful especially when you are about to give birth to your first child. And the Archie being compared to a monkey mess. I also thought the whole brouhaha about the ring Harry gave her and when he had her engagement ring remounted was awful too. The press had so many, “How dare she!” stories and even on here people were like, “They’ve only been married a year!” I guess I feel that these are times when you should feel on top of the world, first baby, first anniversary but no, here comes the press and the trolls. It was just too much.

    • Tealie says:

      Don’t forget to 9 months speculation on how ‘black’ the baby would be which was the REAL reason (despite how they try and cover it up) for them so dearly wanting to know what Archie looked like NOT that she was breaking a two term non exstent royal tradition. I remember people at my work discussing how ‘black‘ he would be and , it was disgusting.

  29. Feeshalori says:

    So what if he had her ring remounted after a year. I’m sure a lot of married couples have done that, is there a time limit on doing things according to our personal taste? If all our lives were aired out like laundry to dry, how these people would be bitching about every single thing we did wrong in their eyes.

  30. Alexandria says:

    @February-Pisces what is your reading on Charles’ intention on Harry and Meg?

    • February-Pisces says:

      Ok I just did the reading and it’s very interesting. Basically Prince Charles wants them back badly, all of them, harry, Meghan and archie. The start of the reading was ‘justice’ clarified by ‘knight of pentacles’ and ‘queen of wands’ harry and meghans cards. So Charles really wants them to get justice and he’s rooting for them, which is a bit of a shock.

      Then there was the ‘10 cups ‘ clarified with the ‘10 pentacles’ and ‘6 of cups’ so he sees them as being a happy family, and that would be good for the family business.

      This is where it gets interesting. I had to keep clarifying, so I pulled out a bunch of cards. I’ll list them in order; ‘world’, ‘queen of cups’, ‘3 of cups’, ‘3 of swords’, ‘moon’ and ‘knight of cup’.
      The queen of cups keeps coming up in royal readings, that clarified with the moon, is definitely a pieces, and rose is a Pisces. The 3 of swords and 3 of cups indicate a love triangle. The knight of cups represents Willie, and the world and the page of swords says that Charles basically want willies affair exposed to the whole world. He wants people to know about it after all the sh*t William has done.

      Then the reading ends with the 3 of pentacles, the hierophant (which represents the firm) and 6 of swords. She Charles wants them back, he wants them working for the firm again and he wants all this drama to calm down.

    • February-Pisces says:

      When I asked what Charles intentions were for William and Kate it was a very different reading.

      Firstly the queen of cups again along with the ‘tower’ and ‘emperor’ which can sometime rep Willie. Also the ‘moon’ ‘3 of cups’ and then chariot’ (which is cancer energy again could rep William) also came out in another part of the reading along with the ‘ace of swords’ which represents seeing the truth. So I think Charles really want williams and roses affair exposed.

      Also there was the ‘4 of pentacles’ clarified by the ‘5of cups’ so he may feel some sort of jealousy and is quite sad about it.

      Here’s the even more interesting bit, under opposing energy came the queens of pentacles’ which is Kate’s card, clarified but ‘8cups’, ‘death’ and ‘judgment’. Yep he literally wants to end kate and get her the hell out of there.

      In the outcome position is the ‘2 swords’, ‘7 of wands’ and ‘5 of swords’. He definitely wants to block them somehow. He feels like he has to guard himself from them but may also feel defeated.

    • notasugarhere says:

      Thank you for these readings, February-Pisces. Makes for an interesting perspective. I could definitely see Charles wanting the Sussex family back, and for William’s games with the press (esp concealing the affair) out in public. I wouldn’t be surprised if Charles does want Kate and the Middletons out of the picture, as he never wanted them in it.

    • February-Pisces says:

      Thank you. I think from Charles perspective he’s sick of the Cambridge’s coming up smelling of roses (no pun intended) especially at the expense of everyone else. Before they went for harry, it was Charles who was thrown under the bus especially with the whole ‘skip a generation’ campaign. Not to mention the Middletons taking control of grandparent duties. I think the rose affair will well and truly shatter the illusion that the Cambridge’s are this perfect family that can do no wrong. But he sees that the Sussex’s are a happy family with the 10 of cups and the 6 of cups which are may fav cards. He wants kate out, which makes me think that she was the true driving force behind Sussexit.

      Charles has been very inactive during all of this. But with the 2 of swords and the 5 of swords as the outcome of the reading, he might take action to actually knock them off their pedestal.

      • Feeshalori says:

        February Pisces, as long as you do these readings you’ll have a bunch of interested readers here. Thank you, l know readings take a lot of effort. And it’s also interesting that you pulled the hierophant card which represents Taurus which the queen is. So she may want HM back as well.

      • February-Pisces says:

        Thank you, even though I’m a Harry and Meghan supporter, I try to do all readings objectively. So sometimes my readings can surprise even me. I’m surprise Charles supports the Sussex’s as much as he does, considering he has shown no public support. I wish anyone with genuine tea could clarify whether they think this is accurate?

      • Nic919 says:

        Could any of the cards linked to Kate mean the middletons, I.e. Carole instead of her? Just wondering because Carole has definitely been active in helping trash the Sussexes.

        Also I can see Charles wanting the cheating exposed because he has taken the hit for cheating on Diana (justifiably so mind you) but the media does seem to be covering for William. Social media is just waiting to say more and I wonder if someone connected like Tom Sykes may be bolder in his confirmation of source for the affair because he’s hearing it is more acceptable from the direction of Clarence House?

      • February-Pisces says:

        @nic919 when Kate comes out in a reading she is represented usually as the queen of pentacles and given the cards that were clarified with Kate, they definitely hold her responsible. But Kate and ma midds are two of the same, very much in it together.

        It’s interesting that the biggest hits the Keenbridges have had recently, Tatler and the Tom Sykes comment, have come from the toffs. I think they all know that kate ain’t shit, but are extra mad because she has done something’ to double cross two of their own, harry and rose. Kate keeps coming out as the one who everyone is super pissed off with in regards to harry leaving the RF. But I also feel like she took drastic action against rose to ensure the affair ended.

        I don’t know what it is, but I do remember when I asked how she felt about the affair rumours leaking on twitter, I saw the 6of wands so she did feel quite victorious about it, like she won some sort of battle. She maybe she had something to do with it leaking as a way to get them to stop their affair. If he ever dumps her, she forever gets to play the poor wife because and he the bad guy, cos the rumour is unofficially out there now.

  31. Mariane says:

    @FEESHALORI I dont think MSIAM is criticising the sussexs.
    The cut article was really good. I hope people click and read the whole thing. I loved the part where omid says he choose to be on the right side of history. That is what some RRs are already realising before a massive change kicks in once Harry’s hacking lawsuit starts. Chris ship for example has been absent for weeks. The idiots have nothing to defend themselves with.
    Omid even exposed them by posting on his Twitter page about how afte posting black page on Instagram they went back to not bothering. UK news stopped reporting protests since April!! That thankfully hasn’t slowed or caused the movement to end. It only highlighted how our media is complicit in stopping change.

  32. Feeshalori says:

    Oh, my remark wasn’t aimed at Msiam. I was referring to the media snarking about the ring redesign and the usual feathers getting ruffled.

  33. Feeshalori says:

    Oh, my remark wasn’t aimed at Misiam. I was referring to the media snarking about the ring redesign and the usual feathers getting ruffled.