Mariah Carey risked her life just to have one night in Puerto Rico with Derek Jeter

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Mariah Carey has a great new long-read interview in Vulture. She’s promoting many things all at once: the 30th anniversary of her first album, the release of The Rarities (rare and unreleased songs from her career), and her memoir, The Meaning of Mariah Carey is coming out. The interview takes place in the upstate New York estate she bought so her kids would have room to grow and play. The interviewer had to come to Mariah’s house at nearly midnight, and they basically spoke throughout the night. Because she’s a vampire! Her home apparently smells of vanilla and gardenias and she has been in a “Bubble” since March with the same five staffers. The piece is wonderful even if you only mildly like or appreciate Mariah and her whole deal. Personally, I think she’s A LOT, but I enjoyed this. Some highlights:

Whether Eminem should worry about the memoir: Eminem, who was reportedly “stressed” over what Carey might say about their rumored 2001 fling, doesn’t have to worry. “There’s some songs that I can sing in response to that, but I will not do it,” she’ll say when I ask. And then, with a roll of her head: “If somebody or something didn’t pertain to the actual meaning of Mariah Carey, as is the title, then they aren’t in the book.”

Co-parenting with Nick Cannon: “Co-parenting. ‘Yeah, it ain’t easy, baby. It ain’t easy.’ But you know what? It’s important. We keep it good for them,” she says of Cannon, whom she divorced in 2014. She won’t comment on his recent career drama (he was fired from his longtime gig hosting Wild ‘N Out for making anti-Semitic remarks on his podcast, Cannon’s Class) but speaks fondly of him in her memoir in the chapter called “Dem Babies.”

She remembers everything about falling for Derek Jeter: “Of course I do! I can never forget that moment. I mean, it’s not like it was some intensely deep, intellectually stimulating — again, it was a great moment, and it happened in a divine way because it helped me get past living there, in Sing Sing, under those rules and regulations.” When she belts, “I’d risk my life to feeeeyall / Your body next to mine,” in “My All,” it’s because she really was risking her life to have a night with Jeter in Puerto Rico, she says.

She moved out of the city for her kids: “They’re not running around with matted locks,” she says when asked how her own childhood has shaped how she parents. “They know that I’m here for them. They know that if they want to talk with their father, he’s a phone call away. They have stability. That’s what I didn’t have. They will never have a holiday that’s not happy unless something I can’t do anything about happens. They understand that they are Black. They have a whole lot of self-esteem and self-worth that I never had. And I probably still don’t now. I know that I still don’t.”

On being mixed race: “I really have been like, ‘I’m mixed. I’m mixed. I’m really, really mixed.’ The truth is I will never say I had the same experience as a darker-skinned woman,” Carey starts in. She acknowledges the privilege in her being accepted by white audiences and a white-run music industry, but to her, it also means “having a white mother, and being forced to live in white neighborhoods, and feeling ashamed that there is nobody visibly Black there … and I’m being so real right now that I want to edit myself. Believe you me, I’m not thrilled to be this skin tone all the time. How was I supposed to fit in? I was, like, the only one that’s this weird mutant, mutt — using an antiquated phrase that I’m not asking anyone else to ever use again, but I’m embracing it — mulatto girl. I’m not even embracing it. It’s a horrible way of defining somebody. It actually means ‘mule.’ ”

An Ellen DeGeneres story: The interview was from 2008, when there were rumors Carey was pregnant. DeGeneres, apparently determined to get Carey to confirm the speculation, challenged her to drink Champagne. Carey was forced to announce her pregnancy. She miscarried soon after. “I was extremely uncomfortable with that moment is all I can say. And I really have had a hard time grappling with the aftermath,” she says. “I wasn’t ready to tell anyone because I had had a miscarriage. I don’t want to throw anyone that’s already being thrown under any proverbial bus, but I didn’t enjoy that moment.” Carey goes on to say that there is “an empathy that can be applied to those moments that I would have liked to have been implemented. But what am I supposed to do? It’s like, [sings] ‘What are you going to do?’ ”

[From Vulture]

I friggin’ love her horny-for-Jeter story and how she apparently remembered every single thing about the night they met. I love that she’s too classy and too over it to even talk sh-t about Eminem. I really love what she says about race too – that’s when she’s at her most real, her most vulnerable, and her most authentic, when she’s trying to talk about what it was like for her growing up as a mixed race child and then being a light-skinned, ethnically ambiguous artist in the music industry. There’s still a lot of damage for Mariah around her racial identity. Also: God, I hate Ellen.

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  1. Alexandria says:

    She’s a lot but…I would really like to know her skincare routine. Also I appreciate she has not Kardarshianised herself…I think?

    Also Ellen can just…retire.

    • minx says:

      Ellen’s meanness should be the top story here.

      • Carobell says:

        Ellen is just cruel and malicious apparently. That is all I have.

      • Alexandria says:

        Never understood her appeal, glad I don’t have to see her become a host again. She was a terrible host and horrible human being to Mariah. She’s earned enough, hope she just goes away.

      • JanetDR says:

        That is a terrible story about Ellen, and it just should not have happened. You can speculate all you want, but you don’t force the issue. Unless your co-worker is sitting at her desk looking green and nibbling on saltines, maybe then, you would share what was helpful for you.

    • whatWHAT? says:

      she IS a lot, but she’s also, from what I’ve seen, a completely nice person.

      DIVA, yes, but I don’t recall ever hearing a story about what a B she is. and I also root for her because of her terrible first marriage to that controlling A-HOLE. he was abusive and made this beautiful and talented woman doubt herself all the time.

      • Tiffany :) says:

        I’ve heard stories from back in the early 2000s that she was very unkind to other artists (stories from award shows and other entertainment events/concerts). I think she comes across as very funny, but also very dismissive of people she thinks are below her status.

        That being said…what Ellen did is one of the worst things a person can do to another human being. Fertility is such a personal subject that wraps up a person’s whole heart. It is why I hate “bump watch” and “uterine secret” gossip. You never know what a person has experienced, and forcing them to play their hand or upping the paparazzi price on pregnancy status is horrible.

  2. Levans says:

    Not gonna lie, middle school me loved that post Tommy Mattola/Honey era of Mariah! Her song, The Roof was also about Derek Jeter! I’d probably risk it all for one night with Jeter. Do we think Mariah got the lovely gift basket in the morning?! Lol

  3. Lisa says:

    Good interview. I appreciate how she has tried to create stability for her kids.

  4. Nev says:

    Cannot wait for her audible book. Looking forward to it.

  5. Monette says:

    I’m having a little mental breakdown in my head because I’ve been following gossip religiously for about 10 years and it is only today that I have learned that Mariah Carey is biracial.
    I am speechless.

    • BK says:

      I mean this in a playful way, but I’m definitely laughing that you just realized this lol. Although I guess if you only started following her 10 years ago, it was such common knowledge at that point her race wasn’t even discussed anymore. You certainly can’t really tell by looking at her. I still see comments all the time about people not realizing Derek Jeter is biracial either.

    • Nina Simone says:

      Lmao what did you think her race was ?

    • Michelle says:

      I can understand this if you have only been following her for 10 years. Way back people used to talk about it when she first started and then it just fell by the wayside. I only found out recently that Halsey was biracial. It doesn’t matter. Both women are very beautiful and very talented.

      • lucy2 says:

        I didn’t know about Halsey until recently either. But I remember Mariah from back in the Vision of Love days (I loved that CD!) and it was definitely something people asked her about and discussed back then.

    • FHMom says:

      I think she talked about it a lot early on. Then people stopped asking.

    • KidV says:

      I didn’t know either, but I was never a Mariah fan so didn’t pay attention to her.

    • kgeo says:

      I didn’t know until a few years ago, and I’m old, but I was just young enough when she first started that questions about her being biracial weren’t on my radar. I guess she just became a fixture at some point and I never thought about it again.

    • SurfChick9 says:

      I grew up with her. Grade school etc. She could ALWAYS sing. It was off the charts and I was in fourth grade! She was always beautiful. Very very very shy and in no way shape or form a “slut”. She was never in school- High School bc I think she was always in NYC, singing etc. She was always nice. She was an actual friend. Don’t believe all the stuff you read about her, it’s untrue. She’s a really cool chick!

      • Vernie says:

        Personal anecdotes like this are such a treat – one of the best things about this site. Thank you for sharing!

  6. BK says:

    This would have never worked out in the long run because of all the media attention, but these two were fun while they lasted. Not only has Mariah credited Jeter with helping her get out of her bad marriage, but she’s also spoke in the past how good it was for her to be around his family and see a normal functioning biracial couple with a healthy marriage and functioning family unit. Dr. and Mrs. Jeter really are great parents.

    • FHMom says:

      Mr. and Mrs. Jeter were always in the stands for Derek. They always seemed like an awesome couple. They raised him well. (See my above comment.)

      • BK says:

        I agree. I’m a big DJ fan. His biggest knock is that he dated a lot of people, but who cares! He was rich and single and played on the most famous team in sports, women were throwing themselves at him. By all accounts he was a great role model for kids to look up to, always gave 100% on the field, no steroids, no domestic violence incidents, no scandals period.

  7. Boxy Lady says:

    My favorite part of the interview was when she likened Tommy Mottola to “oppressive humidity.” 😂 You can tell she is a writer because that description definitely painted a picture!

  8. Noki says:

    I never knew about her and DJ, i went to google to see some pics,there seems to only be from one event. Anywaya i went down a rabbit hole and he has dated every DAMN Body(all the hot IT girls at the time). He was like the John Mayer and Wilmer Valderama in his days.

  9. nicegirl says:

    I want to go to Puerto Rico so much, I have for several years now. I’ll skip the Jeter.

    Yes, Mariah is way too much! That and her talent are reasons why I have love for her, I guess!! Mimi always

  10. Valiantly Varnished says:

    Ellen truly is the worst.

  11. Elizabeth says:

    Whew – bit of a trigger there for that miscarriage story. My goodness Ellen is a horrible, HORRIBLE human.

  12. Naddie says:

    I hate her but I’ll always pick her side about the ultimate d-bag Eminem. And Ellen is much worse than i thought.

    • Oh-Dear says:

      There were some interviews with his neighbours at the time of their relationship who said he was really nice, and that he brought Mariah over to their house and they were a sweet couple. I think she went trick or treating with him and Hailey too. They’re linked on the internet somewhere.

      He never said they slept together, and he outed himself in his song about her. Eminem’s problem with her seems to be that she lied about them being together. Then he took it too far for sure. But she didn’t leave him out because she took the high road, she left him out of the book because he has proof they were together and that contradicts her version of the story.

      • Cheryl says:

        Idk, If I had an ex who was as vindictive and petty as Eminem was towards her, I’d never want to acknowledge them ever again either. I can’t blame her from wanting to skip digging up that dark time in her history with a person like that. No thanks. Best to never engage ever again.

  13. BnLurkN4eva says:

    Vision of Love, All I want for Christmas is You and Hero are my favorite songs by Mariah.

    I can’t believe Ellen did that to her and I can’t believe I missed this information before now. I’ve been trying to give Ellen the benefit of the doubt during all this, thinking maybe it’s like she said, she’s socially awkward and just misses signals. But this was a truly reprehensible thing to do to someone and there’s no way to excuse it. Anyone should know that’s not something you do to someone for any reason, least of all to have some fun with them. Truly repulsive behavior and given this, one wonders what other awful things she’s done.

  14. Rainbow says:

    I wonder what she means that she risked her life to have one night with him 🤨

  15. Catherine says:

    Mariah Carey is an angel princess from Heaven!! 🦋🦋🦋

  16. KM says:

    I’m so pumped for this book. I love Mimi and a proud Lamb. I need to avoid these interviews to avoid spoilers. I didn’t realize anything on Butterfly album was about DJ! I will need to play that album again, today. I need to check out her HD music videos, too.

  17. Detnow says:

    Can’t wait for the book. I love Mariah. She’s damaged for sure but immensely talented. I’ve always thought the fact that she was non-physical had more to do with her insecurities. It’s been said she didn’t want to sweat and ruin her looks but I think it’s deeper than that. She’s deeper than many give her credit for as well but it shows in interviews like this.

  18. Faye G says:

    Wow, I can really relate to her biracial upbringing! I too was the weird biracial girl who never fit in, living with a white mother in white neighborhoods. She denied any racism that came my way, instead blaming it on my personality…
    I might have to go buy her book now. Also, Ellen sucks, I feel so bad for Mariah

  19. Queen Meghan’s Hand says:

    We have not given Mariah’s Eminem diss track Obsessed nor its music video enough flowers. I cackle at her Eminem drag!! So good.

  20. David says:

    I see what you did with that headline. I assume she wrote My All about him as well since she gave her ‘all to spend one more night’ with him?

  21. Balloonsarebadfortheenvironment says:

    She says just enough humble stuff to humanise herself but I think she’s a total diva underneath all the superawareness of her likeability credit. OTOH, she’s always spoken out on the biracial vs black issue. Olivia Munn is another one who does a good job highlighting all that, for Asians.

  22. CatAndSeafoodRock says:

    I am a total LAMB now, though that wasn’t always the case. I think that the risking her life for Jeter has to do with Tommy Mottola. She met Jeter at the end of her marriage with Tommy and though she is a bit on the prudish side, she claims she has been with 5 men which includes Jeter (Tommy, Jeter, Luis Miguel, Nick Cannon, Bryan Tanaka). In the interview with Vulture/New Yorker, she mentioned that Tommy had security cameras. We know that during the Glitter era, Tommy was stalking her. So, yep. That’s where the risking my life, came from.

    I’m also pleasantly surprised to discover that Jeter came from a great, functional family. It’s an interesting tidbit.

  23. Noki says:

    Yes she is know to not even have a physical relationship until she is married,but maybe also in very serious relations.

  24. FHMom says:

    I loved them together. I was (still am) a big DJ fan back in the day. I know people here snark on him, but he was an athlete that kids could look up to. There aren’t many of them. I was at spring training once and a bunch of kids were practically scaling the batting cage to talk to him. He talked to them all. He asked about school and things like that. I was very impressed with him. Glad you were also, Mariah.

    And, God, Ellen is so vile. No woman should ever have to announce a pregnancy before they are ready.