Robert Lacey: Prince William was full of rage about the birth & christening of Archie

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Let me just say: I’ve been on the Royal Gossip Beat for more than a decade, and as we cover these tell-all books – like Robert Lacey’s Battle of Brothers: William and Harry – The Inside Story of a Family in Tumult – more often than not, I remember the “controversies” as they unfolded. And these royal biographers are just perfectly willing to dupe the general public. I mean, I get it, most people aren’t paying close attention because it’s not actually that important AT ALL. But it’s so irritating to me, the way all of these royal commentators and biographers are just grasping at whatever straws they can and completely rewriting the tabloid narratives as they go along.

In May 2019, the Duchess of Sussex gave birth to Archie Mountbatten-Windsor. She had been victimized by a vicious and unhinged smear campaign for the bulk of her pregnancy, and she and Harry clearly wanted to keep much of the birth information private. After all, they were being repeatedly told that they were unimportant, insignificant to the Crown. And everyone the Sussexes came in contact with ended up being gleefully smeared in the tabloids too. So the Sussexes tried to keep a lot of information private, including the names of Archie’s godparents. This, too, caused Prince William to be incandescent with rage.

William had lots of thoughts: William did not think too highly of Harry and Meghan’s ‘prima donna’ manoeuvres to conceal the birth of their son. He and Kate failed to visit the new arrival for a full eight days. By contrast, the Queen, Prince Philip, Charles and Camilla all turned up within hours to coo over the baby — and it seemed strange that, when the Cambridges did finally pitch up more than a week later, they didn’t bring along little George, Charlotte and Louis to welcome their new cousin.

The godparents’ drama: Then came the real crunch: the godparents. An essential component of any Church of England christening process, these adult mentors who will guide the new baby spiritually, morally and often materially through life are considered even more important for members of the Royal Family. Technically, they carry the title of ‘sponsor’. Numbers six and seven in the order of succession may not seem particularly close to inheriting the crown, but who knows what can happen in an age of mass terrorist attacks and global pandemics. Six and seven could well get promoted to three and four — or even higher.

Good lord, they were just mad over nothing: ‘Secret sponsor’ has a dodgy sound to it. And it is an ingredient of Britain’s representative monarchy that the people should have the right to know who is giving moral guidance to their possible future king or queen. Here again, however, precedent, protocol and practice all collided headlong with Harry and Meghan’s firm insistence on their privacy — and that of their new baby. Confirming the palace announcement, the Sussex Royal office made clear that the whole ‘sponsor’ issue was non-negotiable. The godparents’ names would not be revealed.

A constitutional principle, really?? ‘Friends’ of William suggested that the future king, only five places clear of Archie in the order of succession, could not comprehend how such a basic matter of constitutional principle had been misunderstood. How could any new Windsor royal be christened in a meaningful sense without the newcomer’s sponsors being known, if not present? What does such bizarre and paranoid behaviour indicate about the parents involved? One thing we may conclude is that Harry and Meghan had developed an exaggerated idea of their own importance.

Gee, I wonder why the Sussexes thought the world was hostile to them: The months since their marriage had demonstrated that the couple share a common character flaw — they both have a tendency to cascade downwards from their peaks of generous self-confidence into miserable moments of self-pitying victimhood. They see the world as hostile and start behaving in self-destructive ways that make that hostility come to pass.

[From The Daily Mail]

It was perfectly clear at the time, just as it’s clear now, that the Sussexes didn’t reveal the names of Archie’s godparents because the Daily Mail would have been sifting through the godparents’ trash in a matter of hours once the names were revealed. It’s that simple. The godparents have a right to privacy. Now, do I also think that Harry and Meghan could have “handled” the christening and the “baby reveal” differently? Sure. As with many of the Sussexes’ “controversies,” I think there were some criticisms which could have been made in good faith, criticisms which probably would have fallen on deaf ears, considering H&M were being criticized for breathing and existing then and now.

It’s driving me up the wall that none of these royal commentators/biographers can write or utter the simple sentence: The Cambridges were sick with jealousy about all things involving the Sussexes.

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  1. Becks1 says:

    Wait, I thought the Sussexes were irrelevant and way down the line of succession. But now its “William is ONLY 5 spaces higher than Archie”, huh?

    And constitutional principle, really? what this sounds like is “William wanted the names released so the press would talk about them and not him”.

    I am still surprised to this day that none of the names have leaked.

    • VS says:

      “I am still surprised to this day that none of the names have leaked.”

      Probably because H&M will know with certainty the people who did; I don’t think they can expect anything else though

      So much jealousy over “ATTENTION”; this is not normal

    • Kalana says:

      Constitutional principle! Just like forcing toddlers to wear tights is about showing respect to the Queen! (And threatening reporters into staying quiet about Rose is about William’s right to a private life)

    • Betsy says:

      That “five spaces” thing stood out to me, too. Mostly because I wish that William would just throw the tantrum that Charles and Liz fear so much and remove himself and his children from the line of succession. I used to enjoy royal watching up until about 2011 and then again from 2017 till Harry and Meghan left.

      I do not enjoy Kate and William. I think they are dull and lazy, and not everyone can sparkle like Harry and Meghan but they could have put in the expected work. That would have been fun. Part of what made Diana fun (beyond the fact that she had the sparkle, too) was that she kept working. She was always out and about doing her job.

      • Amy Too says:

        I wonder if that’s part of it. William wants Archie to be following all of the strict protocol of an heir because William wants to ability to chuck it all and remove himself and his line from the monarchy. If he did, then Harry would be the future future and Archie would also be a future king. Like in the normal course of things number 7 in line doesn’t need to have public sponsors but Will wants Archie to have public sponsors because it would make it easier for him to step down because people had already been seeing Archie as public and important enough to have public sponsors. So William is all “act like you’re a future king and do all the things a future king has to do so that I have the ability to step down later if I feel like it.” And Harry and Meghan are like “no, we’re number 6 and 7 and that’s not going to change. We are going to act like number 6 and 7. We are not going to do things we don’t have to do just to make it easier for you to step down later on..”

        I was also struck by how the article claimed that it’s some kind of constitutional crisis that Archie’s godparents aren’t known because he COULD be a future king but then at the same time it claims that Harry and Meghan have an over inflated sense of their own importance. But I thought the problem was they weren’t acting future king ENOUGH? Now it’s they think they’re more important than they are?

      • notasugarhere says:

        William doesn’t want to be king, but he doesn’t want anyone else to be king either. He isn’t going to step aside and remove his kids, because he wants the power and money of being monarch – without any of the work. He’d certainly never step aside and hand it all to his brother and his line.

      • Wiglet Watcher says:

        Amy Too
        You make some good points, but I see it a little differently. William is so secure in his role he wants none of it to change. That includes spare roles. And without Archie to be thrown to the media wolves he has only his own youngest 2 kids and maybe the children Eugenie and Beatrice produce.

        That is how it goes. The system repeats generation after generation.

        William was born into this role where he was praised for existing and everyone else was just a prop to distract from his own flaws.

        Nota
        What’s funny is Harry with Meghan could have stayed and helped William. Help him work less. Help his public image. Instead he is so short sighted. Now he will have to work. It will all fall on his wife and 3 children. Charles will slim down the monarchy.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        “Now he will have to work.”

        Does anyone really believe the Charles III will be able to force William to work?

      • anotherlily says:

        William could remove himself from the succession but he can’t remove his children. It would be for the child to make a decision at 18.

        One way of being automatically removed is by becoming Roman Catholic.

      • Lila says:

        I can see William short-sightedly removing all the fluff in the job. Why do hundreds of events a year when he can sit them out? Why talk with the PM constantly when he can trim rose bushes instead? But in the long haul, the less work he does, the more expendable the BRF looks. No one would have put up with a reign as long as QEII if she had the work ethic of William.

      • Wiglet Watcher says:

        BayTampaBay
        Because he will have to. The BRF is largely ceremonial and as King he will be 100% expected to work. Or public opinion will turn. There’s not enough promises of keenness in the world to cover his reign of being lazy and getting away with it.

        A part of me believes there’s a chance. A chance Charles brings (or tries to bring) Harry and Megan back into the fold with a sweetheart deal when he realizes William is unfit and moves are made to push him out.

        That’s just my own personal wish. I know it’s a difficult and chaotic road to make a spare the top while the heir is alive.

      • Tealie says:

        @Amy Too William wants Archie to be his children’s scapegoat. Now when the slimmed down monarchy comes, they’re gonna have to sacrifice their own.

      • Kalana says:

        Harry and Meghan will probably never come back unless Charles guarantees protection in the press especially for Archie. Charles would have to face William for that.

        William needs to be brought back down to earth because he’s only going to get worse as time goes by.

      • Feeshalori says:

        But if William ever becomes king, they’re on the next plane out. No way is it possible HM can ever stay when William and the press go gunning for them again.

    • Ennie says:

      I thought it was already known. I’ve seen some names.
      All of them regular people who don’t deserve to be attacked. I thought the press were looking for famous names, and in the end were private people who were asked as godparents. I might be mistaken, tho.
      Edit: What Oh said downthread.

      • Becks1 says:

        I didn’t think any of the names had been confirmed, just speculated. But even the ones that have been discussed are from Harry’s side. We dont know who Meghan asked, and I’m assuming she asked 2-3 people.

  2. Aa says:

    I don’t buy that William cares about the constitution, but I could buy that the newspapers editors he is so friendly with were on his ass about forcing the release of the godparents’ names

    • Elizabeth Regina says:

      William only cares about his public image. He does not strike me as a caring person. He’s jumped on every bandwagon and everything he touches just flops. No energy, no passion, no heart.

      • AnnaKist says:

        Imagine being married to him. *shudders*

      • notasugarhere says:

        Kate stalked him for a decade. She knows who and what she married, and for her the business arrangement and ultimate title are what she wanted.

      • Marcy says:

        Tbh once Diana died my interest in the royals waned. My interest perked up when Meghan joined. Meghan has such a feel good factor about her. People and children are drawn to her. Billy is JEALOUS. Meghan has shown how more engaging the royals could be. Kate and Bill CANNOT compete. Wills needs to be sent to the Tower for allowing the media to trash Meghan, especially when she was pregnant. I will never forgive him for that. He will never be my King!!

    • MF1 says:

      Yes, exactly. I bet H&M refused to tell him or his staff the godparents’ names because they know it would be leaked. That’s why William was so rage-y.

    • Madelaine says:

      @AnnaKist: I am trying but my imagination won’t let me roam to that tipping point. I might be irrelevant but the photo selection is hilarious. On pic 1, Will seems to be fighting off a stubborn poo. Photo 2 shows his hand gesture mimicking a plane crash, which looks pretty perplexing given that he was attending a first responders’ meeting. On pic 3, Will the ogre has just gulped down a nest of freshly born baby birds and Stepford wife is patting his back to burp him out of an incandescent post dinner rage of some sort.

    • Nic919 says:

      The UK has NO written constitution so this is utterly false. The UK has a series of conventions and norms and some legislation here and there for things like the Magna Carta, but there is absolutely nothing close to what the US has or even Canada or France. In fact legal scholars say it is a concern that they don’t have one seeing as how norms can be so easily tossed with an authoritarian leader.

      Also Henry VIII left the Catholic Church to marry his mistress so the names of god children are irrelevant. Charles is divorced. I mean FFS why would Lacey print this? Is he a historian or an author of fiction?

      • Lady2Lazy says:

        @ Nic919, I have a feeling from everything that Celebitchymhas provided us, is in fact, pure fiction. I love how all of these sources are “friends”. HAHAHA

    • Pétulia says:

      A good way Charles can put William in his place is delay William coronation as prince of Wales as much as possible when he becomes king

  3. Kalana says:

    Wow. The godparents’ names were never leaked because the BRF doesn’t know the names. That is a heavy thing to learn.

    And again all the change and considerate behavior is required from Harry and Meghan. Imagine the kind of narcissistic entitlement it takes to turn the birth of your nephew into ways to show your disapproval. Prince William is more grand than the Queen and Kate is his happy helper. Even the Queen just for a moment showed more humanity and that family was what mattered to her.

    Seriously, at no point does this family stop and think, Hey, maybe *we’re* wrong? After all we are infamous for our dysfunction.” The egos of these ridiculous people to always place all responsibility on Harry and Meghan.

    • ArtHistorian says:

      Looks like Harry lost his trust in his family much earlier than we thought.

    • OriginalLeigh says:

      But how is it possible that the BRF don’t know who the godparents are? Were the godparents not present at the christening? I just assumed that they were present but not in the pictures that were released to the public?

      • Kalana says:

        This is what made me think they may not have all been there: “How could any new Windsor royal be christened in a meaningful sense without the newcomer’s sponsors being known, if not present?” Have I read it wrong?

      • RoyalBlue says:

        I think they were not at the ceremony.

    • Becks1 says:

      That’s not how I interpreted it – the BRF knows, it was just made crystal clear that the names were not to be public. the godparents would have been part of the ceremony, there’s no way the family doesn’t know.

      ETA wait it has the line about “without the sponsors being known, if not present?” so maybe the family didn’t know. Or maybe they knew about some but not others?

      • Kalana says:

        That’s what I thought as well and then the same line made me think that maybe they didn’t have all the godparents attend or didn’t tell the family about all of them.

      • RoyalBlue says:

        Yes, they didn’t trust slick willie and knew better than to have the god parents present.

      • Olenna says:

        I think the senior family members knew but they (Willie) were pissed that the public wasn’t told via the tabloids, who are in a partnership (i.e, cahoots), with the royal houses’ press.

      • notasugarhere says:

        If William knew the names, he’d release them. It does sound like some of the sponsors, particularly on Meghan’s side, were not present at the ceremony.

      • RoyalBlue says:

        agreed nota. the names would have been leaked pronto!

      • Kkat says:

        You can have a christening in the church of england/Episcopal Church without all the godparents present.
        My son’s aunt and uncle couldn’t fly over from England to attend, but they are still official.

        And we were unable to go for a christening over there and we are still official God parents.

      • Wadsworth the Butler says:

        I think the Queen and Charles know the names, just as they were likely informed when Meghan went to the hospital to deliver Archie. The Queen has probably forgotten the names of enough godparents to fill a battalion, and wasn’t about to concern herself about the 7th in line. Charles probably has a similar mindset. William is the only one who would be outraged at not being consulted about something so relatively trivial.

      • Tealie says:

        @notasugarhere 100% they would’ve liked them, but then at the same time I’m sure you have to have godparents at the ceremony because they need to do a ritual of some sort so I’m thinking maybe they did to christenings or had a private christening with just Doria, Meghan Harry and the friends, and then invited the family after.

    • Oh says:

      Actually , three of the godparents have been revealed,Harry’s nanny Tiggy Legge Bourke, Harry’ friend Charlie van straubenzee and Mark Dyergiven

      • RoyalBlue says:

        It’s the godparents who are Meghan’s friends that they want to smear.

      • Anne says:

        Exactly. The Brit godparents leaked immediately but I’m assuming the BRF didn’t know who Meghan’s friends were and that was on purpose so they wouldn’t be leaked and destroyed in the media.

        Remember when Camilla Tominey came out with that article the day before Finding Freedom was published that acknowledged that the Cambridges had thrown Meghan out into press to deflect from their drama. They had no idea that FF was going to be so drama free and non-accusatory. They had Camilla doing some complaining and explaining for them. LOL

      • Sunshine says:

        OH, Roya wrote that. She’s not sure they are the godparents. It was assumed because they were seen arriving/leaving. The parents never disclosed the info.

    • Nic919 says:

      The godparents had to be at the ceremony. You need to be there to take an oath to raise the child in the faith during the service. I say this as a godparent myself.

      The names haven’t been made public, or not obviously public because only family there would know who they are so it would have been too obvious if Christian Jones leaked that one. And some of the names leaked later on it seems.

      • Rebecca says:

        They use a proxy if a person is unable to attend, so the idea that the godparent/sponsor HAS to be at the ceremony is a lie. Two of Charles’ godparents couldn’t attend his christening, so his father, Prince Philip, stood in for Prince George of Greece, and his mother’s uncle, stood in for King Haakon of Norway. An historian SHOULD know this.

        Further, Charles is the heir apparent and Archie is seventh in line, yet we’re supposed to believe these would be treated the same? That’s BS. This is and has always been about the press demanding their pound of flesh and having a massive temper tantrum when they were told no.

      • RoyalBlue says:

        I have children whose god parents could not attend the baptism because they were abroad. true, this is a catholic ceremony i am referring to, but i think they don’t HAVE to attend.

      • Kkat says:

        You sign a form and have a proxy
        You can absolutely be god parents without physically being there.
        We were unable to go to Bournemouth one time for one and my older sons aunt and uncle were unable to attend for his because they could not fly over.
        It’s all official

      • Lucky Charm says:

        My Godparents were unable to attend my baptism, so my parents had proxy’s stand in for them.

      • Nic919 says:

        When you act as a proxy who need to state who you are acting as proxy for. You can’t just show up and stand there. So there is no way that people at the ceremony don’t know who the godparents are. It wasn’t a secret from them and has to be listed somewhere. That said the amount of people at the ceremony was small enough that if William releases the names Harry would know it comes from him. That’s why it’s not public. He can’t pass it off to Christian Jones.

      • Becks1 says:

        @nic – agreed, that was my point above – the godparents may not have been there but they still would have been part of the ceremony via proxy. The people at the ceremony know who the godparents were – but if it were leaked, it would be obviously immediately it was William.

    • Tealie says:

      It really shows how much they didn’t trust them and also highlights that Archie was 100% the reason why they left, they were willing to sacrifice themselves but they were not willing to sacrifice their son and future children.

  4. HK9 says:

    This is so ridiculous…..it makes me wonder if William is just a Karen in disguise?

  5. Seraphina says:

    Every move the Sussexes make, it is criticized. Every reason mentioned as evidence as to why they didn’t reveal the names of the Godparents is reason enough alone.
    What I’m beginning to see is how much more light is being shed on Bill’s temper tantrums. Ans oddly enough, how important the Sussexes really are.

  6. Elizabeth Regina says:

    Oh dear. Willileaks and his mannequin simply don’t get it. All this leaking to ‘authorised’ biographers make the RF look awful. Willileaks just keeps putting his foot in it. His many cunty moves (2 airplanes anyone) tells us about his obsession with looking good at the expense of Harry, no wonder his brother distrusts him so much. He would have leaked the names of the godparents within minutes if Harry hadn’t put his foot down. He will keep being a loser despite being a future king as we all know he is not up to the job. He has no notable achievements and no direction in life. This hounding of his younger brother seems to be his goal in life and it’s just very embarrassing now.

    • Anne says:

      Over the past couple of years, Prince William’s extreme insecurity and jealousy over his brother getting some spotlight have been glaringly obvious to everyone. Even his “side” know.

  7. Andrew’s Nemesis says:

    Penis with Teeth must control all! Just look at that constipated expression!
    It feels that PWT is ready for kingship in his own way: he can’t fathom why anyone would *not* follow tradition, supplicate themselves to him or follow their own impulses. He is accustomed to being first on all occasions without any accountability. The fact that Archie’s godparents would be hounded into insanity by the tabloids is irrelevant to him.

  8. Jane says:

    This is really gross. Archie is a private citizen. The godparents are private citizens. And since neither Harry nor Meghan seem particularly religious (Meghan converted to Anglicanism purely as a matter of convenience), I doubt very much the godparents are going to be providing any ‘moral guidance’ to Archie. And on that subject, I’d be really interested in hearing how any moral guidance they might provide could possibly be inferior to that provided by the racist, classist, sexist, misogynist, Tory voting, Brexit voting, tax dodging, chav party attending, blood sport participating, swinging aristos that William and Kate have chosen as godparents for their offspring.

  9. Oh says:

    Why does William have the right to express his opinion on Archie’s birth and christening ?? Doesn’t he have three children? Harry never talk shit about William children and he always mind his bussiness.. this really make me sick…. William treats Harry like a child because RF raised him like this, and I blame Harry again because he didn’t know the value of himself and was always the third wheel in a W&K marriage ….if Harry set limits for William long before Meghan came … I’m sure the situation will change now

    • Kalana says:

      William makes everything about him. He likes that Kate and the Middletons revolve around him and his needs, and he wants the same treatment from everyone else.

      I’m sure the Queen and Charles have also issues with being self-centered but you can see them being considerate, protecting and caring with at least some of the people in their lives. William seems to see everyone around him as something to be used.

      • Oh says:

        I totally agree, but why Harry before Meghan was in the royal foundation with William? Why did he not create his own foundation ?? Also, why he was with the same Instagram with W&K, even though William was married and had two children at that time … When I saw the old pictures of Harry before Meghan, I really felt a strange feeling …. I think he really thought his goal in life was just to support his brother

      • Kalana says:

        Before the army, I think that was Harry’s main source of positive attention from his family which is a powerful hold. Otherwise he was the dumb screwup even though the family didn’t care about sending him to a school that matched Harry’s needs or even testing him for dyslexia. When his family started competing with his wife and child for his support, that was what finally got him to set boundaries.

      • notasugarhere says:

        What an odd way to look at it, Oh. Harry started his own charity, Sentebale, with Prince Seeiso when he was 19. He didn’t invite William to join, because he knows what William is like. William, meanwhile, has done nothing of substance and spent years trying to take credit for Harry’s work.

        The original royal foundation was William and Harry. It was that way for years. When Kate married in, it would have been logical for W&K to make a new foundation for themselves. Instead, they went with the weird ‘Harry’s the third wheel’ idea that you bought hook, line, and sinker. Meanwhile Harry continued with Sentebale, WWTW, WellChild, Endeavour Fund. All while W&K were hiding in Wales and refusing to work.

        All three were briefly moved under Charles’s media, then William pitched a fit and they split off again. At that point, I think Harry was biding his time and just waiting out William’s wrath. Maybe he had a deal with Charles that when he married, things would be different.

        When Harry and Meghan married, that was the second big chance to split the Foundation. But W&K were used to taking credit for Harry’s work and fundraising and didn’t want the split. Harry and Meghan did. The talk of a new foundation for Harry and Meghan started right after the Together cookbook, no doubt when W&K tried to steal the money for themselves. That talk of a new Foundation started months before talk of the new Household, which William tried to stop.

        The Queen and Charles supported Harry and Meghan getting a new household, away from William and out of William’s control. It was clear, the Queen and Charles were helping Harry and Meghan to get away from W&K. That enraged William further, because he could no longer control or suppress them.

        I’m convinced William was the leak to Wootten about their Canada location and half-in plans, because William wanted them 1) under his control or 2) fully out. He never imagined they’d peace out on him.

      • Anne says:

        Yes Notasugar, William’s office was the leak to the Sun. W&K’s chief media guy has a love partner that was accepting bribes by Dan Wootton to spill info on Harry and Meghan. I believe Harry is currently suing the Sun over this or at least exposed it.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        “no doubt when W&K tried to steal the money for themselves”

        Did Will & Kate try to steal money for their personal use or for their personal pet charities that were on the verge of insolvency? I never understood what exactly was going on with his.

      • Wiglet Watcher says:

        BayTampaBay
        That I best understood it was in part how William’s Royal Foundation operates. Someone once called it an umbrella. A charity or cause is used to raise funds and those funds get sucked into the center to be redistributed as the foundation wished to any charity or charities after their own overhead is covered. That includes using the foundation to fund their own fundraising galas.

        So, Harry and Megan operated under that for a hot minute, but were careful that their causes were never under full RF control. Still, the RF did try to grab the cookbook profits. Also, note that anything Harry and Megan brought into the RF they took with them.

      • Tealie says:

        @ BayTampaBay basically William and Kate barely get any funding for their charities because they do almost 0 fundraising activities, and The Together Cookbook was doing so well and bringing IN so much money to the foundation that they wanted to split some of its income to fund their own charities. And the Sussex’s put their foot down and said no, and made sure that legally they cannot divert any of the funds to any other orgs but the Hubb kitchen, and Cambridges were NOT happy about it at all, which is what contributed to the split.

    • Shirley Gail says:

      Wm has been jealous of Harry since Harry was born. Harry was raised in that environment, so likely just thought it ‘normal’. When his wife and baby were smeared to high heaven, Harry decided he wanted a new normal…one more closely aligned with the values he learned in the army (no man left behind), whilst building his charities (being kind) and when he met a woman with “it all” he fell, he fell hard. Because he was already ready to burn the place down by then.

      • Tealie says:

        I agree he has and it’s very obvious even there nanny said so, and gave a rundown of Williams nasty characteristics that we are seeing now.

    • Mignionette says:

      @Kalana

      “William makes everything about him. He likes that Kate and the Middletons revolve around him and his needs, and he wants the same treatment from everyone else.”

      This has also been my view of Bill no mates. He has likely been pampered his whole life and then came along a woman like Meghan who said ‘No’ to him and he was shocked. I think he wanted to use Meghan as a show Pony commodity as Harry alluded to.

      He is literally teaching George how to abuse his siblings in 20 years time, but then with Charles as a father this comes as no surprise.

      • Oh says:

        I agree that Harry had amazing projects before Meghan like Sentebale and Invictus Games, and I know that Harry did amazing things without William before Meghan came, but to be honest Harry was always supportive of W&K and always defended them and although William always mocked Harry and belittled him .. Harry, as a spare, always they tell him that you are not important and your older brother is more important than you in the monarchy, and also Harry was always complaining about the press and being a prince, so why did he not find his own way and create his own foundation, legacy, and social media for him to promoting his projects without W&K ? Who in this world shares his projects with his older brother who has a wife and children in the same social media ??? Also, the Royal Foundation was created in 2009 so it wasn’t long before Kate’s arrival

      • Tealie says:

        Very true William wants all the praise and the best praise for doing absolutely nothing in his 38 years of life he hasn’t even set up one single charity well done one single fundraiser of his own, and Harry has done four and isn’t even the future king AND was away for 10 years. Even Charles had set up The Princes Trust by now.

    • Mooshe1 says:

      Harry was in the army until about 2015 I think? He said he didn’t know what direction he was going to take when he left but he knew he wasn’t allowed to stay in. He also was debating on stepping away from royal life before Meghan came along, the BM keeps conveniently forgetting that. All these guys knew Harry wasn’t going to be content to just trail behind Will or he would have ended up miserable and freaky like the other royals siblings, except Anne.

      • Rebecca says:

        Considering how forward thinking and hard-working Harry has proven to be, it’s more than likely HE came up with the idea of a foundation to manage all his different efforts (which by 2009, he had a couple of initiatives in the works already). How do we know William didn’t just piggyback off of what Harry wanted to do?

        The real question should be why William, who is TWO YEARS OLDER, didn’t have his own scheme? Prince Charles was 28 and started The Prince’s Trust with his Navy pension.

        It’s wild how Harry is painted as the one “latching” onto William, when he’s the younger sibling who had already created Sentebale by the time the Royal Foundation was founded.

      • Nic919 says:

        Exactly this Rebecca. Harry has in fact followed his father’s footsteps by setting up charities at an early age and doing much than avoiding work as William has done.
        William has no equivalent to Sentebale, or Invictus Games. He’s done nothing but play in various gardens.

      • February-Pisces says:

        I have always thought that Heads Together was harrys baby and Willie and Keen latched onto it, and passed it off as Kate’s idea. I think harry went along with it just because he’s that kind of guy, and Kate had nothing to show for herself. It’s funny cos since Harry left, I haven’t seen much of Heads Together.

      • Tealie says:

        @ February-Pisces you’re right in earlier articles if you delve deep you can find that it was actually Harrys idea along with head fit but now he has gone you can see how the work is completely fizzled out I don’t even know if they’re doing their app anymore that was meant to come around.

  10. Joanna says:

    What a ridiculous DM story!

  11. Snuffles says:

    With every new reveal, the message I am getting is that the Cambridge’s are at the heart of the smear campaign and Charles and the Queen were frustrated that they were no longer being consulted.

    I think Charles and the Queen’s issue was about losing control and upholding traditions.

    The Cambridge’s are full on dangerously jealous and clearly made a deal with the press to prop them up with using Harry and Meghan as shields to cover up their dirt and regularly leaking information.

    This is beyond just a little misunderstanding. Will has shown Harry who he really is and Harry has had enough. I don’t think they are speaking at all right now. And I don’t see it happening in the near future either.

    • L84Tea says:

      THIS x 1,000

    • Nic919 says:

      I don’t disagree with your assessment but I also wonder at Lacey being so negative about William and his tantrums and whether or not Charles may be behind the shift of focus because until now it’s just been attack Harry and Meghan, but now William is the anger bear and Charles and Queen just tried to control his temper. It’s a shift in narrative that has purpose.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Good point, Nic919.

      • Becks1 says:

        Interesting point Nic. There’s even the line about Charles feeling “sympathetic” towards Harry. The Queen is being portrayed as angry and sending messages but at least there was some effort (the lunch before the summit, etc) – but William is an angry controlling bully. It is an interesting shift in narrative like you said.

      • Digital Unicorn says:

        Yeah – I kinda think this is Chuck letting it be known that William and his rage were the driving force in forcing the Sussex’s out.

        Chuck is setting the Cambridges up as at some point the truth will out about who was doing all the leaking.

      • A says:

        I don’t think it’s Charles, and I don’t think he’s attempting to shift the narrative here. If he were trying to hype himself up, that stuff about Christopher Geidt (whose dismissal is Charles’ doing in part), would not have been in the book, and it would not have received as much discussion as it has.

      • Lemons says:

        I think this could be Charles, @Nic919. It would make sense that Charles wants to be seen as a background figure in this debacle. It’s too late to steer the narrative that he was a controlling force when he was largely silent.

        But it makes the Queen look like a poor decision maker and incompetent and William comes off as jealous and rage-y. These are poor qualities of a monarch. Charles looks like he is trying to play all sides with difficult people. If he’s smart, he will come out on the side of H&M and bring them into his fold. William is old enough to create his own court.

      • Becks1 says:

        @A – well, I don’t think any of us are saying that Charles is 100% behind every aspect of this book. but what I think is likely is that Lacey reached out to one of Charles’s people, who might have either asked permission from Charles to talk or just talked, but knows Charles well enough to know what story Charles wants out there. I don’t think Charles had line item veto authority over this book, but I think we can see in some of the things being pushed out here (like goodness, William sounds like a raging bully) an attempt to better control the story behind Sussexit.

  12. Slowdown says:

    I had forgotten how long it had taken for the Cambridges to visit Archie. This just shows that the brothers were already out of sorts. Also this antiquated endless list of conventions is horrendous even if the baby was the direct heir to the throne. How primitive. Soon enough they’ll add a clause that they have to have sex in front of the court when they marry to prove it was consummated. This is not the way to create sensible, compassionate and well-rounded future monarchs

    • Nic919 says:

      Kate loves babies so much she waited a week to see her nephew. I mean it’s not like they were busy with work. Had she visited on her own that would have been great PR for her mom image. But I guess following William is her priority.

      • lanne says:

        The real kicker was when she sat next to Meghan with a squirmy baby at the polo match and didn’t even look at her! What kind of baby-loving woman completely ignores her nephew who’s sitting right next to her? Those would be easy pictures to show that there was some warmth between them and Kate couldn’t even manage that? And the media thought that was fine? No one in the media took note of it? Reason number 928734 that british media, not just tabloids, is utterly toxic.

      • Tessa says:

        It’s just abnormal for a woman to ignore a cute baby and go over and pick him and up talk to him. THere are bots who say oh Louis will not know his cousins. Well, even if they stayed in the UK he still would not know his cousins, because Kate and William would not allow it.

      • Tealie says:

        How DARE you Nic! She was probably making jams and getting blow outs! 🤣🤣!

      • Marivic says:

        @Ianne. What the British media took note of was how Prince Louis was running toward Meghan and Archie with his tongue sticking out. The BM said this was how Prince Louis greeted his cousin Archie- sticking out his tongue at Archie . BM is really vile and evil. Innocent children are not spared.

  13. Sofia says:

    “the Queen, Prince Philip, Charles and Camilla all turned up within hours to coo over the baby”

    That’s a lie on Charles and Camilla part. They were on tour in Germany when Archie was born. They didn’t come back until a few days later so how did they “turn up within hours”? Sure the flight time between UK and Germany in only an hour so you could make the case they sneaked out, but I doubt it because a) when has the BRF ever walked out in the middle of an engagement (or tour) for the birth of anybody? I thin Edward was on an engagement when his own daughter was born and even he didn’t bail half way and b) someone would have probably revealed it.

    The author is a pretty esteemed writer apparently so why wasn’t this fact-checked? If basics like this aren’t checked, makes you wonder about the more “secret” and “complicated” details. Are those accurate?

    • Becks1 says:

      Good catch. Charles definitely didn’t visit “within hours” – I wonder if he did see Archie before the photocall a few days later though?

      It is interesting though that he is using a mistake/lie to damage the Cambridges though.

      • Sofia says:

        Wasn’t the photocall on the same day? I remember Harry did that little interview around 11am GMT or something and then the photocall with Archie was around later in the afternoon but the same day he was born – around 8 or so hours later after birth. So I don’t think Charles came to visit before then. I could be getting the dates wrong

        Yeah I don’t know if it’s an “honest” mistake or if he’s genuinely trying to make the Cambridges look bad. I just thought this was an incorrect thing and a pretty easy thing to spot as incorrect if you pay attention/remember royal tours – maybe he was counting on people to /not/ remember the tour dates?

      • Becks1 says:

        The photocall was a few days later, not the same day Archie was born. I feel like he was born early on a Monday AM and the photocall was Wednesday? I could be misremembering though.

      • Sofia says:

        @Becks: You’re right. I went through their instagram and saw that the photocall pictures were posted on the 8th (Archie was born on the 6th) so indeed you are right!

        Then I went looking for the dates of the Germany tour. It was between the 7th-10th may so Charles probably didn’t pop in before the photocall. However since Archie was born on the 6th and their tour started on the 7th, could they have indeed visited “within hours”? But then why was Camilla shown pictures of Archie and the whole “we look forward to meeting him”. Plus I think they were being told on the tour that Archie had been born.

        I feel like I’ve confused the whole thing.

    • tee says:

      Mhmm. But somehow he knows the exact day W&K visited. His source is obvious.

    • Seraphina says:

      Thank you for that catch. I thought it odd when I read it because I recalled that very very few went to see Archie at first. And then something about being careful since they were traveling – Charles and Camilla – and not bringing back a cold or something to the new born.

    • Jane's Wasted Talent says:

      ‘The author is a pretty esteemed writer apparently…’

      This is the error.

      • Lady D says:

        That’s hilarious, Jane.

      • Jane's Wasted Talent says:

        Lol, thank you! It’s funny because it’s true. Apparently he’s traded his pedestrian and entirely forgettable career as a popular historian for a turn as a slightly-above-average ‘royal biographer’*/consultant for ‘The Crown.’

        *Just to be clear, this isn’t meant as a compliment at all. ;)

    • Nic919 says:

      Good catch. Also goes to my earlier point of Charles having a hand in this new book and helping shift some negative focus on William.

      • Becks1 says:

        Yeah, that’s a detail designed to make Charles look good, and to make William and Kate look petty and mean spirited. Hmmmm.

  14. Elizabeth says:

    “They see the world as hostile and start behaving in self-destructive ways that make that hostility come to pass.“

    This is textbook victim blaming and frankly gaslighting. It’s disgusting to read. The tabloid media *was* hostile to Meghan & Harry. Over AVOCADO TOAST, if they couldn’t find anything more of a “constitutional principle.”

    • Kalana says:

      That stood out to me as well. It’s now Meghan and Harry’s fault because *checks notes* they didn’t stay completely open and trusting after already dealing with leaks and abuse?

      Robert Lacey really has contempt for the emotional impact any of this had on Harry and Meghan. He writes about them like they’re objects and not people.

    • Myra says:

      Pretty much. Even this bit stood out to me: “One thing we may conclude is that Harry and Meghan had developed an exaggerated idea of their own importance”. If they’re not important, why all the damn biographies about them? Why keep whining and begging Harry to come home and help his brother? Also, if you can secure a 150 million dollar bag, then I’m pretty sure you are very important.

  15. ABritGuest says:

    This is BS. Charles& Camilla didn’t meet Archie when he was born. They were in Berlin the day after the birth & said to people on the visit they were looking forward to meeting him. Arthur Edwards even showed Camilla the first picture of Archie in his phone on the tour. Then it was widely reported Charles met the baby on 16th May. As much as I don’t think the Cambridges care for Meghan, I don’t think not visiting immediately was about birth secrecy. most people give new parents a few days to settle& didn’t they delay coming out with George for a while.

    Again I think it’s interesting claims of the family’s issues with the Sussexes seem to align with the press complaints. I think the family do know the godparents and the press were on William etc to leak them. The Times reported that Charles van straubenzee and Harry’s old nanny Tiggy Bourke were godparents so think some names did leak.

    If Sussexes aren’t important why was it important to know these details?

    If Robert doesn’t get into people in the Firm briefing against them which was obvious and has been said by many journalists openly then this book lacks credibility& might as well just read daily mail and other tabloids for run down of what happened.

    • blue36 says:

      I agree with you, a lot of these claims seem ridiculous. I was surprised everyone was caping for this book and author when it seems like regurgitation of press complaints and made up facts.

    • Elle says:

      “Arthur Edwards even showed Camilla the first picture of Archie in his phone on the tour.”

      The royals and the press really need boundaries

      • Tessa says:

        I doubt Camilla cared that much, she has her own grandchildren to consider.

      • Elle says:

        Oh I agree Camilla doesn’t give a rat’s arse.

        But imagine first seeing the new baby of the family because some obsessive hack showed you a picture.

        Urgh

      • Tealie says:

        @ Tessa you’re so right I always forget Camilla has her own children and family, it’s funny how they’ve never gotten thrown under the bus I’m sure she just watches and laughs as she sees Charles throw around his children for his ego.

  16. tee says:

    I think I recall Will & Kate showing up at the last minute to the christening and leaving immediately after the photos too. Their apparent nonchalance/ lack of joy over both Harry’s marriage and the birth of his first child must have been really eye opening got him.

    • equality says:

      Especially when you consider how Harry showed up for them on any occasion and managed to look pleasant and interested.

      • Nyro says:

        Harry looked more pleasant and interested than Will did at his own wedding. Will didn’t even go to his own rehearsal dinner and he didn’t turn around to look at Kate as she entered the church. Harry did though.

      • Myra says:

        How Harry helped fix Kate’s veil. It’s a testament to his character. He is a prince in every way.

      • Tealie says:

        @ Myra it actually makes me feel sick how nice and welcoming Harry was to Kate even though he didn’t like her, he truly went OUT of his way to accommodate his brothers happiness. Her family too.

    • Anne says:

      Because he was no longer under William’s control and the 3rd wheel. Most people would at least feign happiness for a beloved brother, but neither William or Kate even tried to be friendly to Meghan. William looked miserable throughout the wedding.

      They have made their disapproval obvious every minute of every engagement. Did they expect Harry just to bow out of the marriage or what?

    • Likeyoucare says:

      They were even a conspiracy theories that cambridge were not attending the cristening and the picture were taken separately and the superimposed it together.
      Yes i know this sound crazy, but is it?
      (Tounge in cheek)

  17. Charfromdarock says:

    Wills should really seek professional help for his anger issues.

    • Snuffles says:

      Absolutely. Will probably needed it as much as Harry but he probably didn’t want to appear weak as the future king. And I’m sure he wanted to continue the narrative of him being strong and reliable and Harry as fragile and volatile.

      I think Will is just as volatile.

      • misery chick says:

        If not more so…

      • February-Pisces says:

        William is a Cancer which is a water sign, know for their emotions. I’m a water sign too and at our best we are warm and empathetic, but when operate on a sad broken heart, we are not our best. Water signs that are sad tend to lash out and act irrational and think with their hearts, which isn’t good when that heart is fragile. Diana acted the same way when she was feeling her worst. Alway acting out out of frustration and sadness, without thinking about the long term consequences.

        Harry is a Virgo and they are know for being rational, practical and logical. They lead with their head and not their hearts.

        It’s funny cos the media literally portray these two opposite from each other, my guess is from willies need to be like his brother that he hates, whilst projecting his own short comings on to harry.

      • Lexistential says:

        @February-Pisces (what an awesome nick!), on the point of astrology, yes William is a Cancer, but not all Cancers behave so badly or are heirs to a throne. If anything, William’s energy is comparable to Henry VIII and his tantrums. Henry VIII’s tantrums were bad enough when he became King; William has been behaving badly all his life, and may have greater potential to be worse than him because of it.

      • Wiglet Watcher says:

        Will acts like a fire sign. Hi, February Pisces! I’m April Aries! Sun, moon, Venus, Mars too. My chart is on fire!
        Anyway, he acts impulsive. His sun is water, but I wonder about the rest.
        My husband is a cancer sun and moon and he is sensitive, but not in a way that ruins his mood or others around him. Like a still waters guy.

    • Tessa says:

      I don’t think Harry is volatile, he is honest, William is acting oh so grand and tries (but can’t hide) his petty nature. WIlliam may be a whole lot worse when he is not in public.

      • Snuffles says:

        I think Harry is in a much better place today but even he admitted in the past that he was always on the edge of losing it before he got therapy. I’m just saying that Will needed therapy just as much as Harry did.

      • Nic919 says:

        Diana commented on the difference in temperament when they were very young and said Harry had the better temperament to be king. William continued to be coddled and privileged which made the negative aspects of his character get worse.

    • Myra says:

      All these stories does make it seem that he has an anger problem. I want to feel bad for the staff but they sound very racist and snobbish

  18. Digital Unicorn says:

    Willileaks is just mad that he couldn’t use a baby or his godparents to feed the beast so they can hide his rose bush trimming.

  19. JT says:

    I thought the way they handled the christening and birth announcement just fine. Harry isn’t the future king, Archie isn’t the heir, and Meghan isn’t going to be consort. The made an announcement and then Harry gave that cute little interview, which is more than the press deserved at that point, and they had the photo op. H&M’s pictures of Archie are more regal and classic. When time passes and people look back on those photos they will look timeless. I think Will was telling the press that H&M were going to give them access and was upset that they weren’t playing ball. Remember how upset the BM was when H&M only allowed two cameras or so for the first photos? This was about access and Will trying to control them. Archie isn’t his child and he has no say over anything to do with him. Will is mad that he has to sell out his own kids for the press while H&M allow Archie privacy.

    • S808 says:

      This was another blatant instance of them putting more importance on the Sussexes than their position calls for imo. For their position in line, the birth and photocall was perfect and I’m sure we’ll see it done like this later down the line.

      • JT says:

        Exactly. Harry knows his and his family’s place within the monarchy, hence no formal titles for Archie. Archie will never be a working royal and when the George and co have children, he’ll be further down the line. They sent the message with the Christmas pictures, now follow your own damn message.

  20. aquarius64 says:

    This book doesn’t make the Cambridges look good, nor the queen and Charles. Whoever authorized this latest steaming pile has the stench lingering on the Windsors.

    • Olenna says:

      You’re right; it doesn’t make any of them look good but the author couldn’t continue the smear campaign against the Sussexes without explaining some of the cause and effect of their so-called “shenanigans”. It’s like shenanigans begat shenanigans. And, of course, he doesn’t lay blame on the tabloid media’s greedy, hate-filled coverage of Meghan from the time she stepped into the royal scene until the Sussexes left as the reason for their need to protect the godparents from public scrutiny. Lacey is truly a piece of work.

      • ArtHistorian says:

        Any account of this whole mess that doesn’t delve into the racism in conjunction with the generally toxic nature of the British tabloid press will always be a very incomplete account – because racism really is the root cause of the way that Meghan was portrayed and pilloried from day one – and Harry was the only one of the royal family and household who recognized this and tried to protect her. I fully understand why he especially became increasingly hostile and this hostility may have made some things more difficult but it is also very hard to solve anything when almost no one involved wanted to recognize the elephant in the room, i.e. Meghan being biracial.

    • Anne says:

      I actually think that is just crafty releasing of excerpts. I fully expect this book to shred Harry and Meghan as the ones at fault (once you get beyond the excerpts) It’s a trojan horse to get all the nastiness of press circles’ views in to people that like H&M.

      • blue36 says:

        + 1 Anne

      • Mignionette says:

        Agreed. The writer also wants that good ole USA money after seeing the money Omid has made….

      • MsIam says:

        I don’t know. I think the Daily Fail with the ongoing lawsuit would want to get anything bad about Meghan especially upfront and center. I find it interesting that these excerpts so far have been tit for tat in who gets trashed. And while it may say that H&M complained a lot, it paints William as a terrible @ss-hole. It’s like this is William’s Tatler article.

    • Tealie says:

      They have absolutely no self-awareness they think it does make them look good

  21. equality says:

    So Harry and Meghan aren’t allowed to have or change emotions outside of looking pleasant but William can ?

  22. Jane's Wasted Talent says:

    Oh please. Robert Lacey is barely an adequate historian- he hasn’t brought any great analysis or synthesis to the table. And now we know why. Apparently, the intellectual objectivism required to distance himself from his subject(s) in order to adequately observe them is beyond him.

  23. S808 says:

    I wholeheartedly believe that the only reason the godparents names didn’t leak (not all at least) is because William doesn’t know the names and for that reason alone I hope Archie never has to know him beyond “that’s my dad’s brother”. He was more than willing to violate a baby’s privacy and stress his own brother put even *more* to save his own ass. Yuck.

  24. Lizzie says:

    Any time Harry and Meghan did anything the same as Will and Kate the press all screamed ‘who do you think you are, you are NOT the heir’. In fact this article mentioned their inflated sense of themselves. That is a no win situation.
    How in the world does everything written that is pro William still manage to mentioned he was in a rage? I guess they think they are proving their point about how difficult Harry is but they are actually drawing a picture of a man who constantly is enraged. Perhaps this is why Kate often disappears, maybe she and the kids need a break from the rage.

    • Mignionette says:

      Bc it was never really about what they WERE doing but rather about what they WERE NOT doing.

      For example;
      1. Kissing Williams ring, feet and worshiping him generally
      2. Colluding with the UK press and granting unfettered access
      3. Assuming their roles as the new Andy and Fergie
      etc etc etc

  25. Dee says:

    Harry opted out of all the Diana cosplay around his son’s birth, but he’s the one that needs help? (sarcasm)

  26. Guest with Cat says:

    My brother-in-law, and by extension his wife, used to be like this. Every little thing was perceived as a slight against them or the family. He thought himself the gatekeeper to what “The Family” was all about and anything and everything my husband and I decided to do fell short of how it served The Family. Thank goodness they both chilled the hell out and are more or less tolerable these days. But my brother-in-law and his wife are basically good people.

    The Windsors are not. Nor are the Middletons. I am grateful our family matriarch, unlike Petty Betty, made it clear perpetual rages were not acceptable. I think that’s why my brother-in-law settled down. Nobody is doing a damned thing to douse William’s fire. They’re not doing him any favors. Sadly, he’s in an echo chamber that will only reinforce his worst instincts. There’s little to no hope for him or Kate to grow up. I hope the monarchy ends with Charles.

  27. Mumbles says:

    I don’t get the big deal about the sponsors. How “hands-on” are they really in CoE? Maybe in an age or higher mortality rates, their selection was important for the reasons listed. But in the US, just means birthday and Christmas gifts. (Well, it is a nice honor to receive, as well).

    It seems particularly mean not to include George and Charlotte in their first visit, I’d imagine they would have been excited to go.

    • Nic919 says:

      William’s sponsors didn’t stop him from skipping Easter, the most important Christian holiday of the liturgical year, ditching his young children and going to Jecca’s wedding on another continent, so yeah I don’t think these godparents do much of anything.

    • A says:

      This is another one of those things that matters a lot to the aristocratic, royal-adjacent crowd, which the rest of us common, rough-handed peasants couldn’t give a shit about. The whole “sponsors” thing is about signalling to the outside world who this child’s parents are capable of networking with. The rest of that shit about being spiritual guides to the child is all a big nothingburger.

  28. BnLurkN4eva says:

    @Oh, I understand what you are saying and I too wish that Harry had carved out a clear position for he and Meghan to inhabit before she arrived. I can’t be too upset with Harry though when you consider that he was trying to find himself and he was being treated for the struggles he’s had since the death of his mother. I think by the time he met Meghan, he was a stronger Harry, which is the reason he could see Meghan and fall in love with her to begin with. But he was still becoming who he is now and I do think that Meghan provide the security he needed to complete that process.

    Unfortunately, Meghan has suffered tremendously as a result of Harry only creating a separate role for himself in his family only once he and Meghan married. Looking at what has happened with the Sussexes though I have to wonder if Harry wouldn’t have been similarly targeted if he had attempted to create that role earlier on. Given who William is and his obvious jealousy of Harry, perhaps he would have attempted to sabotage Harry if he had pulled away and was getting all the credit for himself instead of it being shared with W/K.

    This is all so absurd to me, but I guess that’s the dysfunction of that family. In any case, @Oh, I think that no matter what, William would have attacked. At least the attack came when Harry had someone to support him and Meghan has it seems her husband’s wholehearted support in dealing with everything.

  29. February-Pisces says:

    Without googling it, can anyone tell me the names of George’s godparents? Does anyone remember and did you care about finding out when he was christened? No. And yet they are crying over the importance or knowing archies godparents.

    Thankfully archie will know his godparents and not his disgusting uncle.

  30. Vero831 says:

    Wow! These people are absolutely psychotic! How unfortunate they don’t realize how stupid they all look. Are they insignificant or not!? I would never have anything to do with Cambridges if I were Harry again. He ALWAYS had Kate and William’s backs and this is the thanks he gets for all his troubles? Awful people.

  31. Amy Bee says:

    William was pissed he couldn’t leak the names to the media. It’s nothing more than that. I get why Harry and Meghan don’t want Archie anywhere near the Royal Family.

  32. Rapunzel says:

    And coincidentally (read: Wills got enraged that his rage was being discussed and made a call), the Fail now has a story with the headline: “Meghan Markle’s ‘eye blocks’ and ‘animalistic throat tightening’ are signs her ego was left ‘raging’ when she was told ‘she’s not the only powerful woman’ during Fortune’s virtual summit, body expert claims”

    Le Sigh.

    • ABritGuest says:

      I just saw that. Gotta feed the trolls & already had Archie compared to an animal at three days old…

      @nic19 I didn’t think that seeing the baby 8 days later was that crazy but fact that when asked about the birth on an engagement Kate had random comment about spring time, William said he was already an uncle (to Pippa’s child)& none of them mentioned the mother-was very telling.

      By contrast when Kate’s first pregnancy was announced Harry talked about how he can’t wait to be an uncle& then when George was born how it was fantastic to have another addition to the family& joking how expensive his babysitting charges are. He’s also spoken about how amazing the Cambridge kids are. How sad it must be that that when Harry finally became a father, which he’s mentioned wanting for a long time, he seemingly can’t share that happiness with his brother.

      • Mignionette says:

        Also notice how Bill and Kate have not showed the same enthusiasm about Archie. Even when you dislike your inlaws you leave children out of it.

      • ArtHistorian says:

        That’s the problem with dysfunctional families – they are often unable to leave the children out of it, that’s how generational dysfunction becomes a thing. My aunt literally took out her conflicts with my mother on my sister and I.

      • Nic919 says:

        Waiting 8 days isn’t a big deal if you live out of town, but Kate has been constantly promoted as a hands on mom who loves babies. So using that framework she looks odd for not going 40 minutes to see her new nephew. Of course we know she’s a liar and doesn’t like any kids but her own and especially not Archie, but I wanted to remind everyone of her alleged love for all things baby, except her nephew.

      • wasp05 says:

        About that particular incident when William and Kate were asked about their new nephew, their behaviour was just disgusting but one thing that stood out to me was how Kate stood next to him guffawing like an idiot when William said he already had a nephew. That small incident really stuck in my mind and made me absolutely loathe Kate. I was pretty lukewarm about her prior to that but after that…she’s a bottom-feeder, that one. And by and by, I think they are both absolute abominations. The sooner this farce of a monarchy ends, the better.

  33. February-Pisces says:

    Its out there in the open now that now matter what good happens in Harry’s life william is never happy for him. He’s mad he met Meghan, he mad about archie christening, he’s mad about this netflix deal. When something good happens to my siblings I’m delighted for them, I want my family to thrive and be happy.

    It’s funny cos was William mad when harry dresses as a nazi or got naked in Vegas? No, he’s was absolutely delighted whenever harry “screwed up”, but heaven forbid harry actually has anything good happen to him.

    They have run out of excuses to justify their treatment of Meghan. First they didn’t trust her or she’s a gold digger etc, but she has been by harrys side solidly during all of this, when she could have walked away from him. They kept calling their a relationship a whirlwind romance based on sex yet they have been together 4 and a half years now.

    All the ‘we don’t trust Meghan’ excuses they used to justify their behaviour towards her are now unfounded, because Meghan and harry have been tested more than any other couple, and she has still been loyal to him. plus to this day she has never leaked about his family or slung any mud back at them, when they have attacked her on a daily basis for 3 years.

    • Tealie says:

      Exactly imagine having such a Narcissistic monster for a brother who would rather use you as a soapbox to stand on to make him look good to strangers, rather than see you happy, disgusting 🤢🤢

  34. Liz version 700 says:

    Could we just stop the title “Prince William is Full of Rage” for a man with with so many privileges he seems to spend a lot of time angry and ungrateful.

  35. Florence says:

    I wouldn’t want those two near a newborn baby and vulnerable mother. Not with the level of hatred they exhibited.

    Not to speak for Meghan here but if it was me I would have been dreading their visit.

    Call it an overreaction but they NEVER ONCE stopped the racism and death threats on social media. They constantly leaked shit about her. They froze her out. They would have happily opened the doors to the baying mob. And the fact the godparents are a secret?? Screams to me that the royals are a mafia.

  36. Ginger says:

    Does anyone know of Harry has tried to leave the RF before? I know he has talked about it but did he ever try? Was he allowed? I’m just curious.

    • Tealie says:

      Hmm I think he has thought about it many times but has always been begged out of it, and likely didn’t want to be ostrasized and alone which is why he was finally able and confident enough to do it with Harry with Megan and Archie. I know that him going to the army was also his way of avoiding royal life he only came back after the Queen and Philip retired and they begged him to help with royal duties and finally they leaked where he was stationed in Afghanistan so he had to come back.

  37. Kim says:

    Light bulb headed William seems to always be incandescent with rage. He has a family and a whole mistress to deal with yet he is obsessed with trying to dictate Harry’s life. I give the UK monarchy three more years .

  38. Mariane says:

    It’s all about control. Billy will have to get a punching bag because the little chance he had of controlling harry is gone now thanx to his antics. He litterly unwittingly gave him the push to go be free and use his current popularity to build his own legacy. Imagine if he didnt bully him, I bet harry wouldve stayed and did what was asked of him for his funding. Now even his precious hierarchy is useless. People calling harry and meghan by their name rather than title is clear that Billy’s own future is at risk. Harry leaving also sets a precedent for Charlotte and Louise to go earn their money

  39. Busyann says:

    Oh lets just be honest, Will was fine until Harry made things permanent by having a baby with BLACK Meghan. Things got downright hostile within hours of the Sussex Australia tour starting which was right around the time they announced baby sussex was on the way.

  40. SJ Knows says:

    William has spent every second of his life as the Future King.
    Of course he is entitled. He has been brainwashed from birth to believe he us chosen by God Almighty to be King.

    A completely out dated idea. 200-400 hundred years ago it was outdated.

    I would rather be a common citizen who earns my living thru hard work vs. live the life of constant bickering, scrambling for position, under a fishbowl glass, followed everywhere, never certain who you can trust life that the BRF lives. My god, you gotta be crazy to marry into that family. The Firm will carryon come hell or high water because it is a business. A huge, never ending business that employees tons people.
    And, at the end of the day…William is expected to give his childrens lives over to The Firm also.

    Harry might be smarter than he gets credit for, Archie will at minimum, have a better chance for something of a less f’ed up lifestyle. Princess Anne refused titles for her children. William will not be allowed to do this, poor Prince George is likely going to be taught the same as William.