Duchess Kate’s Peter Pan collar is being called ‘the new look-at-me neckline’

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I’ll be honest, it didn’t even occur to me that CopyKate was at it again when I covered that video posted by Kensington Palace, of the Duchess of Cambridge speaking to military families for Armistice Day. For months now, William and Kate have been making all of their Zoom calls from what looks like an office or a spare bedroom, some dull, lifeless room inside Anmer Hall with little to no personality (just like W&K, if I’m being honest). But suddenly, after see the Duke and Duchess of Sussex use different Zoom set-ups within their Montecito home, Kate was keen to film this Zoom call in some kind of room with personality, or at least with personal photos and Royal Collection paintings in the background. Sitting on a couch with art and personal touches all around to Zoom? Meghan did do it first, at least in the Windsor clan.

I’m also still grotesquely fascinated by Kate’s Ghost blouse, which should be burned in a cleansing fire. The Daily Mail has a big, dumb story about how Peter Pan collars are back in style, and they quote “celebrity stylist Rochelle White” who said this with a straight f–king face: “The statement collar is the new ‘look at me’ neckline. Instead of rocking necklaces and simple jewelry the statement collar can be eye catching, bold and impactful with little effort. If you wanted to add an accessory like the Duchess of Cambridge has, it can be sleek, stylish and simple.” That sounds like shade, right? The “with little effort” made me side-eye. Anyway, this blouse is God-awful but if you want to believe that this sh-t is back in style, bless.

As for the photos behind Kate in the Zoom call – various outlets have done a breakdown of which photos they are. What I find interesting is that all of the framed photos behind Kate were pics that Kensington Palace released over the past few years. There were no “new to us” photos. Which seems odd, right?

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  1. smee says:

    Like bangs, Peter Pan collars should not be on anyone older than 6, imo

    • Charlie says:

      Fiveheader here. Bangs do not deserve the same derision as peter pan collars.

      • osito says:

        As a fellow five-header, I’m never not going to agree with this, Charlie.

        Also, if it was tasteful, I might not have cared about this collar, but it is *awful*. “Look at me” indeed… “Look at me fail” more like it…

      • Bibi says:

        Bangs are not in the conversation. That collar is so hideous, it should be burned. That room is as hideous as the collar. But the pictures are nice. I’m here to point out how Kate stops every 3 seconds to think about the next words she is going to use to complete her sentence.

      • pamspam says:

        I also have a massive, bangsworthy forehead. And, guys, I like a Peter Pan collar, too! Not that one, but a nice crisp white one on a black top. Sorry!

    • Diane says:

      Perfectly said.

    • Sandra says:

      Leave bangs out of this convo! Speaking as a hairstylist, I don’t get the anti-bangs thing. For some faces, hairlines or foreheads, bangs are a must!
      That being said, ugliest collar ever!

      • Seraphina says:

        @Sandra, thank you! I love bangs and wish my cowlick would behave so I could get a fridge bang. I have heard: It’s either botox or bangs, and I have needles.

      • Tiffany :) says:

        I completely agree. Bangs don’t work with my face, but they can work REALLY well on certain faces. There is nothing childish about bangs. There are so many ways they can be cut.

      • Pixelated says:

        Bangs and peter on collars can be rocked with style on someone who has style.
        Not Kate.

      • Sass says:

        Lord I wish I could have bangs. I have a fivehead…and a massive front cowlick. I tried bangs one last time with the woman who has been my stylist for six years. Thankfully she made them so I can sweep them back up into a cowlick because after two days it was clear they weren’t gonna work on me. I lost the genetic lottery for that.

    • Annie says:

      I agree! They are infantilizing. I immediately subconsciously take someone less seriously if they are wearing one.

      • cantdoattitude says:

        eyeroll. really?
        the shirt is ugly, that is true, but all this judgement around women in general who wear bangs or a certain style of shirt for goodness sake is all a bit gross.

      • Jane's Wasted Talent says:

        ‘Gross’ is pretty excessive for a mainly benign, amusing comment.

      • Delphine says:

        I don’t think Nico looked infantile. I wear my bangs proudly. If someone takes me less seriously I don’t need to know that person.

      • Jane's Wasted Talent says:

        Delphine- Wait, are we talking about bangs or Peter Pan collars? I have no problem with bangs.

    • Love says:

      Jameela Jamil’s bangs disagree 😉

    • Kitten says:

      How old is this woman again?

      ‘Peter Pan’ collars are called this because the only people who wear them are the very young, the very old, and anyone desperately trying to look younger.

      Be honest, Kate looks awful. All of it, it’s just awful. She has people and she still looks this awful, and she sounds robotic and rehearsed. How anyone can fan her, I have no idea. Are they paid? That would explain it.

      Fringe or bangs, on the other hand, actually work on some folk who aren’t me, so I’ll take a pass on panning them. Pun intentional.

      Happy Biden/Harris win, America!

      • Other Renee says:

        I loathe this stupid blouse with its little girl collar. I don’t always hate what Kate wears but this is the worst of the worst. She should always ask herself, “Would Letizia wear this?” If the answer is, “Heck, no,” she should move on.

        As for bangs I wish I didn’t have to wear them but I do. I have a strange hairline and without bangs I age instantly by ten years. 🤷‍♀️

      • Kitten says:

        Kate doesn’t even put forth efforts. She’s so redundant. I’m gobsmacked at the support she’s shown for nothing.

    • Nancito says:

      Never mind the stupid Peter Pan collar – what about that breathtakingly hideous white satin blouse? WTF mate?!

  2. Lizzie says:

    Look At Me, also should be the title of her life story.

  3. Mignionette says:

    The UK establishment’s attempts to “big up” this woman are straight up embarrassing. They will literally beatify her for the smallest of acts and in the same breath crucify Meghan for the very same thing. It is literally gas-lighting by media meant for one purpose only to triangulate and hurt the Sussex’s. Sadly Kate buys into the trolling.

    It’s gonna be a hard day when the same media come knocking on her door the minute she and Bill fall out of public favour.

  4. Charlie says:

    lmao – “with a straight f–king face”!

  5. Seraphina says:

    Kate’s outfit, from what can be seen, looks like she belongs in some kind of choral group for the holidays. And heaven forbid we get to see some different pics of the family. That’s how high above everyone they think they are.

    • PEARL GREY says:

      The fact that all the photos in the background are ones that have already been released just shows how staged this little background decor arrangement was. Kate has gone from her made up “working from home” desk to made up family home set. Of course everyone stages to some degree but others at least look more natural and not like those pictures were quickly framed and put there last minute, as if they are not usually there. In a house full of children and a keen photographer mother, there aren’t any more candid, spontaneous or never-seen-before pictures to hand? Does Kate only take pictures of her children on special occasions to be put out to the public? Perhaps her CEO commitments keep her too busy.

      • Sarah says:

        Yes to both of these comments! I came her to say exactly that. This could be a tv studio set-up. It’s all for public consumption.

      • B says:

        Totally agree with you Pearl re: staged background. (It also looks like the crooked, dated light fixture thing is growing out of her head. Awesome video/photographer), lol.

    • Saucy&Sassy says:

      @Saraphina That’s what I thought, too. Except I think as a choral robe she’s got it on backwards. I don’t know what the designer was thinking, but I keep trying to make this work. Perhaps a more tailored shirt with this collar and perhaps a bit of black on a pocket or ?

      • Seraphina says:

        It’s just such a fail on so many levels. And a satin shirt for work just seems so off. But I am highly critical of Keen Kate.

    • yinyang says:

      I honestly think that’s exactly the look she was going for.

      • Saucy&Sassy says:

        @yinyang I think that’s the look she was going for, too. I think Keen Kate is well aware of how she looks. I thinks she wants sympathy. There’s definitely something going on and she’s determined to win whatever game is going on.

  6. Mina_Esq says:

    The only place where this collar should be making a comeback is in second grade, on school picture day.

    • AnnaKist says:

      We have uniforms down here, but if someone brought that thing in for our dress-up box, I’d be offering it to my nerdy animal-loving student as bedding for his pet ferret I have some doozy pupils, but no way could I allow them to embarrass themselves by wearing that, even if it is for Friday afternoon free play.

    • HK9 says:

      Why punish the children?

    • Kitten says:

      “The only place where this collar should be making a comeback is in second grade, on school picture day.” — Mina the Formidable.

      Mind the tea now!

      It’s meant to be drunk, not become a spontaneous projectile stream launched from my nose; however, with so much shade and laugh packed into one efficient sentence, I’m not certain I mind this time.

      (You’re a naughty little pickle.)

      Happy “Loathsome Orange Dictator and Cabinet of Defunct Feckless Wastrels Are Defeated” Grand Event, America!

  7. paranormalgirl says:

    I want to burn that blouse so nothing remains, not even the ashes. That’s how much that blouse offends me.

    • GuestWho says:

      It looks like it would melt before it would burn.

      Who talks her into these outfits, and why do they hate her so much?

      • Jane's Wasted Talent says:

        This is so true, and I’m now enjoying picturing that abomination melting into a shiny puddle.

    • Giddy says:

      This hideous blouse was stolen from Hester Prynne!

    • Mac says:

      Why is it shiny? It’s awful enough without the shiny.

    • (TheOG) Jan90067 says:

      Still looks like a last minute baste job to me. Like an “Oops! I have to look funereal, and I’m not wearing all black on ZOOM…QUICK!!! DO SOMETHING!” And her PA/”Stylist” (and I DO use the term loosely), cut some black felt from the kids’ craft kit, and tacked it on the satin shirt. Plop the poppy on and VOILA! Instant “respectful of the fallen” look.

      Reminds me of how at a funeral people who weren’t wearing “proper” mourning colors were given a black arm band to tie on. This scalloped horror is Kate’s arm band.

      And as I opined yesterday, NO ONE past their early teens should be wearing a Peter Pan collar and want to be taken seriously as a professional. Certainly not a FFKQ/TopCEO!

      • Jane's Wasted Talent says:

        That would explain why it looks slapped together- strips of white are showing between the black ‘collar’ (it does look like felt, too) and her neck. I think you’re right and this is what happened.

    • STRIPE says:

      Same

      She looked so good in that sleek black shirt and blazer!! Why OH WHY are we back to this?!?

      She is a tall, slim woman who could wear the heck out of some modern (but modest if that’s what she wants!) clothing. I am just so frustrated as someone with the total opposite body type. Don’t waste your genes on this stuff, Kate, please!

    • rawiya says:

      It looks so…student sewing class. I wonder if it’s the photo? The fabric looks so shiny that the shirt looks cheaply made—if that makes sense. And the collar. Basically, if you’re old enough to remember the Cosby Show, it reminds me of Denise’s Gordon Gatrell shirt.

    • Andrew’s Nemesis says:

      @PanoramaGirl Yes. Burn it. Burn it with fire.

    • Kitten says:

      “Who talks her into these outfits, and why do they hate her so much?”

      Whoever attends this woman must despise her to override a professional stylist’s suggestions so convincingly that Kate believes these freshman errors in style and judgment are somehow good ideas.

      Or perhaps this is Kate’s way of signaling for help.

  8. Soupie says:

    What happened to her left eye??

    • Tulipworthy says:

      Right. It looks like she has a black eye. I am hoping it’s just wonky makeup.

    • josephine says:

      Stress? Too tired? I know I get a saggy eyelid when I’m tired. It really seems like not all is right in their world despite trying to appear otherwise. They all look tired and a bit frazzled lately, which is weird, because it’s not like anyone is working. So I’m thinking it’s some other drama.

      • Soupie says:

        Yes Tulipworthy, I agree it looks like overdone eyeshadow that makes it look like she has a smallish black eye.

  9. manda says:

    omg that shirt

    • josephine says:

      Yikes – those are both so awful. I feel like those styles take women backward 50 years. They seem like the antithesis of sophistication and power.

      • Alarmjaguar says:

        @ josephine-exactly!

      • (TheOG) Jan90067 says:

        While they are also fugly and too young, at least a V-neck isn’t AS HORRID as a closed collar, close to the throat Peter Pan Collar. If I was forced to choose, I’d go for the V-neck every time (though Lilly’s narrower one is less horrid, in theory…the fabric!! *shudder*)

      • SomeChick says:

        More like they take women back 70 years. Peter Pan collars are from the ’50s. And they should stay there!

        At first I thought “the new look-at-me collar” was a very clever stylistic pun, because the ’50s style was called “the new look” when it first came in. Full skirts, PP collars. It was a postwar reaction to the end of fabric rationing, which brought the pencil skirt.

        Then I read the rest of the quote and thought, nah.

        Just because something is trendy doesn’t make it stylish.

    • Mac says:

      Fortunately no one needs to be “on trend” in a pandemic. It’s all soft pants and fleece.

    • lemonylips says:

      all these collars just look like baby bibs to me.

    • tee says:

      they are definitely trendy right now. but very hard to pull off.

  10. 809Matriarch says:

    That weird eye look must be a side effect of envy and toxicity. She is starting to get the same lop sided look Scammy Markle has.

    • (TheOG) Jan90067 says:

      Wonky eye is also a side effect of too much Botox, esp. in the forehead/crows’ feet area.

      • lucky says:

        totally agree, I think the pic is just a bad awkward pic, but her face is starting to look like a young real housewife? I mean, I am the same age as her and I don’t think anyone I know has such an absence of a single line between their eyes, right? Especially not among those they loved to tan!

  11. MsIam says:

    That blouse is beyond awful. I guess satin blouses are back, I noticed Kamala Harris wore one Saturday. But this thing is not stylish at all, at least not the way Kate is wearing it.

    • (TheOG) Jan90067 says:

      Satin blouses never “go out”, it’s how they are styled and the basic shape of the shirt. A round, or a draped neck shell under a blazer: chic, any time of year. A boatneck with straight sleeves for a get together: again, chic, esp. for a late fall/winter gathering. Pouffy sleeved, highly buttoned, with a contrasting Peter Pan collar? NEVAH!

  12. What’s eating you says:

    Awww look at granny keen or should I call her maid keen? Did she forget to take off her disguise after she was done spying on won’t at roses house, where she pretended to be a maid.

  13. josephine says:

    The blouse is awful, clearly.

    But I’m hating on a different trend, also represented by this blouse — the puffy shoulder. It seems to be everywhere right now. But along with the dropped shoulder seam, I feel like I’m the only one who hates it. Dropped shoulder seam and puffy sleeves are both awful for people with normal to large shoulders in my opinion. Am I alone in this???

    I wish there were more tailored options out there right now.

    • Ang says:

      You are not alone! Puffy, frilly, anything sleeves are not good on everyone. I have broad shoulders and it looks ridiculous on me. Also hate the drop seam…it’s ugly. Why all the ugly unflattering clothes!?!

      • josephine says:

        Thank you! I feel like that dropped shoulder seam has hung on waaaaay too long as a style and then puffy sleeves came to add insult to injury! Ah well, at least I’m seeing more scoop necks, which do flatter my broader shoulders.

    • TeamMeg says:

      You are not alone. I detest puffy sleeves in general, but THESE puffy sleeves represent the ugly icing on the frumpy cake that is this blouse. LMAO I literally burst out laughing when I opened this post and saw the pic. The worst!

  14. Likeyoucare says:

    Might be they printed the pictures from their favourite newspapers: the daily mail.
    Or they only share the pictures that they had sold to the newspapers, they monitized the pictures and dont want to share it for free.(maybe)

  15. Amy Bee says:

    I don’t know. The photos behind her strike me as odd. They’re all pictures that were released to the media. You would think in a home there would be more personal pictures on the side table. It’s also clear that William and Kate are still watching everything Harry and Meghan do and copying it. I don’t think it is a coincidence that the setting of their zoom calls in the last few weeks resemble Harry and Meghan’s. Before they did everything they could to prevent people from seeing their home even when they moved back to KP. Now all of sudden they’ve change their zoom positioning to a couch with a side table in the background.

    • Sofia says:

      I understand if the Cambridges don’t want to show personal/never released before photos because it’s for them and not for public consumption or something. But in that case I would have just suggested they don’t have anything in the background and just put a few trinkets or something instead

      • Becks1 says:

        That’s what I find odd. Put out some trinkets, put out another vase, or just don’t put anything. H&M don’t have personal pictures out, just the books – but I said on twitter that I think its clear Will and Kate don’t read or else they would have put some books there, lol. Or maybe that would have been TOO obvious??

      • Amy Bee says:

        Even if she wanted to protect her privacy, I just think having all those promo photos behind her seems overly staged and unnatural to me.

      • Chimes@Midnight says:

        Maybe they could borrow the gold piano.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        @Becks1 – Just look at Chuck & Cammie zoom pictures. You see books everywhere. You can tell they have been read as not only did the books contain proper bookmarks but there were numerous Post-It notes marking several places in many books.

      • lemonylips says:

        @Becks1 I’d bet they read Daily Fail praising comments. Although I did go and have a look and everyone is against baby bib collars which made me laugh. Also, I do think their biggest flaw is not having people who understand basic PR and stageing. To some it comes naturally, like :cough: Meghan. Especially if you copy and cosplay and you want it to become a bigger story than just being in Fail then ones need an expert eye to help stage and if it’s a popularity war, move either to the step of the opponent or even a step ahead. She can’t do either. Poor soul.

      • Dee says:

        No pictures of Lupo either. What has he been doing? Does he miss Harry? Inquiring minds want to know. Wish he’d hop on a Zoom call.

  16. souperkay says:

    L O effing L at the wall light sconce coming right out of her head, like amateur hour folks, nothing directly behind the head if at all possible.

  17. JT says:

    They only chose photos that were already public because this was nothing more than a PR stunt. This is Kate once again copying Meghan trying to attach herself to another woman. I’ve said it before but it only benefits and hurts Kate to spoken of in the same breath as Meghan. On one hand, it looks like they are on the same level despite that being obviously untrue but it also highlights Kate’s ineptitude. Chica is so clearly lacking in nearly every skill required to be queen consort other than being white and popping out some kids. KP are trying to prove that Kate can do what Meghan does and therefore she is enough. See Meg isn’t special Kate’s modern too. But this should be embarrassing for them if they had any self awareness. W&k are stalking Harry and Meghan to an uncomfortable degree, but sure the Sussex’s are the irrelevant ones.

    • Mignionette says:

      ^^^ The problem with this approach is that they’re so focussed on Meghan that Kate is taking her eyes of the real prize….. “being a King Maker” – lol

      • Andrew’s Nemesis says:

        @Mignonette Kingmaker? Do you think she fancies herself as the Earl of Warwick? As if she has any soft power whatsoever – she’s as bad as Amy Coney Barrett, a handmaiden to a PWT whose only interest is sticking it to his brother. Meghan, on the other hand …
        Btw, off-topic – I came across the most horrific comment on the Daily Heil (I held my nose and plunged in, because I wanted to see Magats’ responses to the election): ‘Joe Biden was like Harry and got himself one [presumably referring to Meghan, as a POC] for the black vote’. How do these people live with themselves? And how could PWT and Kate be so complicit with such viciousness, and never give an iota of support?

      • Mignionette says:

        @Andy’s Nem – I have a theory that the worst comments are actually Heil staff whipping up hate.

        Everyone attacks facebook for the lack of regulation, especially against hate and extreme speech, but I feel that the DM has done more to subvert democracy bc to quite a few people it;s still seen as a verified global news source.

        Also when you look into the ownership of the DM, you realise it’s just dark money propaganda.

      • Andrew’s Nemesis says:

        @Mignonette That’s a very interesting theory – and I’ll wager that you’re correct. I haven’t gone near the site in a long time (and felt the need to shower after the last encounter); but I noticed that the two top comments on one of the articles about so-called voter fraud were diametrically opposed in content and theory. If the Heil IS engaging in wholesale skulduggery, and making comments that are virulently racist and inciting hatred and violence, should they not be investigated by the police? To do so breaks at least five Acts, as far as I can tell; despite the fact we never got Levenson II, which we so desperately needed, I don’t see how they can’t be hauled over the coals for hate speech. I wish there were a way to prompt an investigation.
        They are truly despicable. Perhaps I am naive, or too much of a Kantian deontologist, but I simply can’t imagine working for an organisation that engages in such abhorrent behaviour, let alone facilitating violent thoughts and heinous deeds through posting such filth.

    • mytwocents says:

      A thing about the photos that jumped out at me is that Lupo is missing and hasn’t been seen since his debut. Did they get rid of him? where did he go? There have been plenty of outside photos of Will and the kids rolling around in the grass etc. Wouldn’t it have been perfect for Lupo to join them? It appears that they did get rid of him, which they’re keeping really quiet (since Meghan was treated badly when she left one of her dogs back in Toronto because he was too old to fly). Either way, it’s odd.

      • Cathy says:

        I’ve been wondering where Lupo is as well.

        If he’s not with the kids then I hope he has been properly rehomed?

        He must no longer be with the family or we would have seen him in the cutesy family photos that Kate has produced?

  18. Sofia says:

    I’m sure these collars look good on some people but not everyone, including Kate. That’s fine. No-one can (really) pull off everything ever made in fashion.

    I know there was an article yesterday but I’ve just noticed the eyeshadow and it’s not doing her any favours. Yes smoky eye is a thing but again, I don’t think this is working for Kate

  19. Lauren says:

    That blouse is all kinds of offensive, but sure. Let’s praise Keen’s fashion sense.

  20. Mabs A'Mabbin says:

    Those collars belong on children.

  21. Becks1 says:

    For the pictures – my guess was that someone just went to the KP Instagram account and printed out some pictures that had been released on there and put them in frames and put them on display, but it ends up being weird. Like that framed pic of William looking in the car window.

    One of the reasons Meghan and Harry’s “zoom rooms” are so interesting is because you do get the vibe they actually live there. Heck, you get that vibe with Charles and Camilla in their offices. Here, the room still looks very formal and very staged and I really cant imagine little kids in that room. I hope the rooms where the family actually lives are more comfortable.

    So yeah the whole think reeks of “we need to copy the Sussexes.”

    Re: the peter pan collar – I actually don’t hate them in general, but that blouse is ugly. BUT This is the problem whenever Kate wears something like this – she doesn’t know how to style it, so it always ends up looking old fashioned and dated.

    • Nic919 says:

      Charles and Camilla had offices that looked used and lived in. Neither Billy or Cathy seem to actually live in the rooms they use.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        Do we really know where William really lives as his base home?

      • Sofia says:

        @Bay before the Rose stuff, I assumed that Norfolk was Kate’s place and KP’s was William’s but when it came out, I think it’s the opposite – William spends more time in Norfolk so he can go play “aristo with no real responsibilities” and live the life he really wants and Kate spends more time in KP so she can be close to the kids’ school and shopping

        Plus KP is closer in distance to Pippa and Carole’s homes

    • L84Tea says:

      I adored Camilla’s office. Anytime I see loads of shelves filled with books and personal pictures, it looks so cozy and loved. In this case, the entire room and all the decor itself looks like one giant prop, purposely wanting to be seen and discussed (except sadly, it completely lacks the cool, interesting vibe of H&M’s space). It’s beyond embarrassing at this point.

      • Becks1 says:

        I know, I loved it too!

        As another random thought along these lines, these zoom meetings make will and kate look very out of touch in my opinion. We know Charles lives in palaces. But his office at least looked very well-used, so to speak. Will and Kate are zooming from these lifeless rooms with no personality that are incredibly formal and to me, really do emphasize that they are not normal/middle class no matter how much they pretend to be. I mean we all know it here, lol, but I feel like these settings just really hit you over the head with it.

  22. Skyblue121 says:

    Peterman collars immediately remind me of Kris Jenner. I can’t unsee Kris in the black dress with the white collar.

  23. Mignionette says:

    Kate should make a full infantilized outfit from this based on her past hits and faves;

    - Headband
    - Peter Pan collar
    - Mary Jane shoes
    - Lots of buttons

    Play ground attire circa 1989 in the UK…..

  24. Riemc526 says:

    Definitely wore Peter Pan collars from grades 1-5 (ages 6-11) as part of my school uniform. Haven’t worn them since and never plan to do so.

  25. Amy Bee says:

    Another thing, by describing Kate’s Peter Pan collar as “look at me” are they are accusing her of being attention-seeking?

  26. Julia K says:

    Just listened to the video above. Does she really talk like this in private or is this her public voice? No one else talks like this, do they? Still trying to wrap my head around this weird accent.

    • Digital Unicorn says:

      She mimics, and badly, Williams speech patterns – same with his mannerisms. If you listen to him and then her you can hear it.

    • Mignionette says:

      She’s trying to sound like a Sloane wife. It’s peak Trinny Woodall and Suzanna Constantine circa 2005.

  27. Amelie says:

    Peter Pan collars have been back “in style” for the last few years and were pretty popular among the female hipster crowd in NYC. I didn’t realize they were still trending?

    Also the pictures behind Kate were absolutely placed there on purpose. It’s like how the Queen poses with pictures every year for her Christmas speech (where noticeably last year Harry and Meghan did not appear with Archie). That was not by accident but by design. I can’t say her set up is as interesting as Meghan’s.

  28. Digital Unicorn says:

    Sadly the stylist is correct those collars are making a comeback :(

    Her makeup was tragic, it was patchy, the foundation looked to dark for her and the panda eyes are back. It looks like her mascara ran in some of those shots with the black eyeshadow under the lower lash.

  29. Jen says:

    They used pictures that were already public so people would feel like they were getting a glimpse but without actually getting a glimpse. Form over substance is their way.

  30. Harper says:

    Kate’s speech is so halting and uncomfortable and she does not really do empathy very well. I wonder if those women she zoomed with come away feeling as if they’ve opened up and spoken from the heart while Kate is all, “um, yeah, I’ll be thinking of you this week (looks away and reads script) and, um, through the year.” To me, Kate gives off the vibe of “as soon as they are done talking I can nod sympathetically and then sign off.”

    • Amy Bee says:

      I get the impression that she struggles with zoom calls because the clips they release always seem short of any meaningful conversations and end up being just her thanking people for their service.

    • equality says:

      Camilla’s zooms are much more interesting and seem more natural. She also looked more relaxed at the Remembrance Day ceremony while Kate and Sophie looked tense.

      • yinyang says:

        But if not Kate, who would think of catchy titles like “Heads Together” and “Hold Still”, not much substance to them but she sure can think of catchy names, lol.

  31. Nic919 says:

    Now I know where Theo Huxtable’s Gordon Gartrell shirt ended up.

  32. Snuffles says:

    For some reason this reminds me of Seinfeld’s puffy shirt.

    No, wait! I found it! It’s Theo’s shirt from The Cosby Show!

    https://townsquare.media/site/341/files/2012/08/theofw.png?w=980&q=75

    • ravynrobyn says:

      @ SNUFFLES-thanks a million for that link 🥰 I had totally forgotten Theo’s shirt (or had blocked it from my brain lol).

    • Nic919 says:

      I think we posted our comments around the same time but I am glad you found that image. A classic.

  33. Harla says:

    While I generally hate Peter Pan collars, CP Mary has worn smaller ones that really aren’t that bad.

  34. ce says:

    Bad taste and BAD LIGHTING. Someone is mad at Kate!

  35. Oatmeal says:

    She is dressed like a secretary from 1982

  36. Mignionette says:

    This Meghan cosplay stupidity is all the Courtiers with Bill’s approval.

    They saw how insanely popular Meghan was and have boiled it down in their heads to her aesthetic. And even then the costume dept at KP have misfired horribly. It does not even begin to occur to them that Meghan appeals globally to people for a multitude of reasons i.e. her values, warmth, principles, natural magnetism, accomplishments, interests. Being so naturally photogenic also greatly adds to her charm. All things that Diana learned to use to her advantage.

    Instead they think they can cut and paste their way into peoples affections by associating Kate to negative headlines about Meghan. Instead they are only appealing to the frothing mouth idiots that read the Daily Flail and typecasting Kate as the other good Duchess.

    This PR approach is DISASTROUS, bc when historians look back there will be years or even decades where Kate is only remembered in comparison to Meghan, which I suspect is what Bill wants. Kate continues to play the supporting role in her own Truman show. Sad.

  37. Lizzie says:

    This reminds me of the staged photo where they tried to make a console table look like Kate’s working desk by adding a phone and some series of books. Screams staged.

    • L84Tea says:

      I’ll never get over that stunt. Kate does not deserve those beautiful editions of the classics that were displayed on that faux desk, because we all know girlfriend has never cracked one open.

    • Nic919 says:

      You mean the photo where she was holding a pen in a hand she doesn’t use to write? Yes why isn’t she doing zooms from that “desk”.

  38. Who ARE These People? says:

    I could see how collars and other neckline accessorizing may become more popular in the age of Zoom, but THAT collar? No.

  39. Azblue says:

    She literally looks like an extra from The Others. The whole outfit and room look like a scary movie. She’s obviously not zooming herself to an early grave if her lighting is so dark. Rookie zoom move!

  40. yinyang says:

    “Look at me” framed neckline is the perfect name for it, as much as she loves PLAYING coy I don’t think someone who truly wanted to blend in would wear that. I think pussybows are very childish, but Kate loves the lolita look, so to each it’s own. I’m not surprised with the pictures in the back, that was one pic of Kate that she looked unlike her real self and pretty so of course she’ll pick that one. Her whole life is a fashion show and if one can’t see that they’re voluntarily blind. I can see why Catherine Quinn got tired of twiddling her thumbs and left, Kate didn’t keep her busy unlike natasha archer, amanda cook tucker and whoever her plastic surgeon is she wont reveal to us. Everyweek another unpurposeful zoomcall, it’s like playing make believe with barbie, it’s so stupid a five year old could think this up.

  41. Busyann says:

    I like to dress a little twee…so a good peter pan collar makes me salivate, but nothing about that scalloped, too big, peter pan collar is good. I swear one side looks bigger than the other and it looks like a baby bib. BUT if she paired it with a cute black wool skirt and tights, I wouldn’t be mad at it.

  42. tee says:

    kate is a very strategic dresser. her clothes are one of the only ways she gets headlines, and im convinced she sometimes wears aggressively unappealing items to be talked about (see: that green printed green dress she wore in ireland). and it always works lol

  43. Traci says:

    Yeah, the photo choices is weird – issa fake setup ya’ll.

  44. M.A.F. says:

    I love a good Peter Pan collar but not this one.

  45. TheOriginalMia says:

    There was an anchor on CNN rocking one and I said “the collar is fine, but she’s an adult”. I can’t say I feel the same about Kate’s because the shiny satin material makes her collar 100X worse. That thing is hideous and should be doused in kerosene and lit on fire.

  46. February-Pisces says:

    I think kate was ridiculed for looking ridiculous so here comes a story about how collars are the greatest thing ever, and Kate is a trend setter. I actually like collars but the one she’s wearing on her shirt doesn’t land properly most likely because it’s so oversized and a contrasting colour. I think adding the poppy to the collar makes it look clowny. I don’t know what it is about Kate, because she has height and is stick thin like most models, but so many of her outfit choices look dead on her.

    Also I never saw that the framed pics behind her of the kids are photos that we have already seen, clearly done on purpose.

    • TheOriginalMia says:

      I think her choices look bad on her because they aren’t her style. She’s too busy trying to emulate someone else that she’s never developed her own style. She has no idea what a professional working woman should wear. If she was going to emulate anyone, look to the other European Crown Princesses/Queens. They get it.

      • mytwocents says:

        True, she hasn’t found her own style yet, which is strange considering she’s 38 years old!

      • Mignionette says:

        Kate’s archetypal style is ;

        - blazer made for a child
        - jeggings
        - wedges

        Problem is she can’t wear that 24-7 so she ends up relying on stylists who can’t really style her as they can’t pick up any hints of personality.

      • February-Pisces says:

        I think her insecurity, self doubt and lack of confidence really shine through. I’ve seen people who are less attractive than Kate look incredible just because they possess a certain charm and charisma about them. Confidence is the key to making anything look good.

  47. Katinka says:

    Peter Pan Collars make me think of these cute little collars from the Sixties that someone like Audrey Hepburn would wear- and look adorable in. Today maybe Zooey Deschanel? But this is not a Peter Pan Collar, this is straight up Eighthies-awfulness, gah. Much too big, not cute at all. Just looks messy (and of course that shiny fabric from the blouse isn‘t helping)

    • tcbc says:

      Yep. She is drawn to a lot of Flamboyant Gamine* looks, but she’s a Flamboyant Natural*, which is why they never look quite right on her.

      *According to the Kibbe System.

  48. Andrew’s Nemesis says:

    She’s beginning to look like Jessica Mulroney, with the same appalling dress sense. Girl needs a wardrobe intervention.

  49. Greentea says:

    Definitely agree with commenter above who says a Peter pan collar should not be worn by anyone over 6. I don’t get why Kate would choose to wear this. It is in my opinion her worst fashion choice so far.

  50. What...now? says:

    Peter Pan collars are the worst. Period. No ifs, ands, or buts! She stays so ultra thin–she could rock some amazing styling if only she wasn’t stuck in 4th grade for her style sense.

    Since leaving the royal family, look how much better Meghan’s clothes choices are–how chic, how modern and classy she looks.

    It seems like such a no-brainer to fix Kate’s style, I mean really, how hard would it be? She needs to shop in the women’s section and not “pre-teen/juniors” section!

  51. Le4Frimaire says:

    That blouse is way busier than she ever is.

  52. Lizzie says:

    Even George is getting too old for the Peter Pan collars. However the satin fabric and puffy shoulder are awful.

  53. KW says:

    She’s a few weeks behind Halloween to be wearing this shit costume, no?

  54. Delphine says:

    Her staging needs work. Looks like the lamps on the wall are coming out of her head.

  55. Lulu says:

    The blouse is hideous and got her the attention she is looking for. So that’s probably a win for her. I almost feel sorry for her and Bill’s desperation to compete with H & M at all times. What a sad way to live.

  56. jbyrdku says:

    Everytime I see or hear “look at me”, my mind immediately goes to Julia Stiles in “10 Things I Hate About You”.

    Look at me, look at me!

  57. Alexandra says:

    Before I put my glasses on I thought those lamps looked like horns on her head…

  58. CrystalBall says:

    The wall sconces sprouting out of the top of St.Catherine’s head are epic! They look remarkably like a pair of horns… And now I can’t get the song ‘Jezebel’ out of my mind, you know, the one that goes ‘Jezebe-e-e-e-e-al, if ever the devil was born, without a pair of horns, Jezebel, it was you!’
    The sconces sprouting out of her head are really, truly mind boggling, as we are constantly told what a gifted photographer she is. How did this escape our highly intelligent, graduate of St. Andrew’s top CEO’s attention? Does the fragrant scent of freshly delivered roses prove such a destraction?

  59. Scandi says:

    The stylist is sadly right about the collar making a return to fashion. It actually did quite some time ago here in Scandinavia. If you look Scandinavian influencers up like Pernille Teisbæk, Emili Sindlev and Janka Polliani, they all wear or have worn this kind of blouse in 2020. Janka posted one today.

    I have refused to wear it. Just because it’s super ugly and one shouldn’t follow every trend. I once did – not anymore!

  60. Sunnyvale says:

    With all the money she spends on “altering” her outfits she couldn’t fix the pointy bust which makes it seem like she forgot to wear a bra! The whole set up was off. The royal collection has a impressive collection of paintings yet she/her staff choose the gloomiest ones. They cant even get that one right😂

  61. Arb says:

    They hired someone to do some personalized interior designing but didn’t give them anything from their actual home to work with because they don’t have actual person touches in their homes because they are boring af.

  62. MerryGirl says:

    Kate is becoming seriously creepy and stalkerish with her copying of everything Meghan now. I mean all of a sudden they have a cream couch with throw cushions and plants and hanging pictures in the background? Seems like they spend all their time stalking that Montecito mansion.

  63. kerwood says:

    ‘Look at me and laugh’. There, I fixed it.

  64. Nyro says:

    I just watched the video. I just can’t get over how terrible a speaker she is. It’s not just the unintelligible accent. It’s the fact that she clearly feels no connection to the words coming out if her mouth. It’s like how you phonetically learn a phrase or two in a foreign language. You know what it is you’re saying but since it’s not a language you actually speak, the feeling is not there. The body language is not there. You’re just creating sounds with your mouth and hoping it lands with the native speakers. That’s what Kate is like whenever she speaks. It’s really quite awful. She’s sitting there trying to remember the words the courtiers told her to say and feels nothing about what she’s actually saying.

  65. Alex says:

    Pan collars are legit, I don’t get the hate. Not a fan of her shirt, but I dig the pan collars, generally.

  66. Margaret says:

    What on earth would possess her to wear that ghastly white satin blouse with that peculiar, very large, scalloped, black Peter Pan collar? She doesn’t seem to have run a comb through her hair, either. A very strange and unattractive look, IMO.

  67. NZ_Kate says:

    My 89 year old grandmother would have looked at all of this – the outfit, the room, the lot – and deemed it “too old” for her. It just all looks so… sad.

  68. Shannon says:

    OMG! That is….wow. The serious amount of buttons have always alarmed me, but this is down right scary.

  69. windyriver says:

    Meanwhile, the capsule collection idea that Charles floated not long after Meghan did her SmartWorks project has been launched on net-a-porter. It’s a cooperation between students from an Italian design school, and students in the textile program at Dumfries House, with an underlying concept of sustainable fashion and promoting British textiles. Higher end fashion, but not outrageous prices, and a portion of the proceeds goes to the Prince’s Foundation.

    Some nice pieces, though not enough buttons and embellishments for Kate’s taste, so I don’t expect to see her wearing anything. There’s a couple of things though right up Meghan’s alley, and it would be fascinating to see her show up in one of the pieces…

    https://www.net-a-porter.com/en-us/shop/designer/yoox-net-a-porter-for-the-princes-foundation

    • Becks1 says:

      oh wow I really like some of those pieces. Not in my budget, but I would wear almost everything there. the silk midi dress is beautiful.

  70. Andrea says:

    Just when you think her fashion sense couldn’t get any worse…kaboom!

  71. Katebush says:

    I have always been a pretty much lone defender of Kate’s Victorian frilly dresses, coat dresses and generally conservative look on this site
    But I can say without hesitation that this is one horrible blouse. That collar is truly hideous lol!

  72. Likeyoucare says:

    Look at me.. i’m a clown

  73. Carrie says:

    Woman heading smartly into her 40s and there is still nothing to discuss other than her clothing. What’s happened to the 5 questions?
    What it is to be the white duchess. Free pass on Everything.

  74. FF says:

    All that’s missing with that collar is the clown makeup.

  75. Izzy says:

    So late last year I decided to level up my wardrobe and started working with a personal stylist at Nordstrom whose client list includes celebrities (obviously I am not one of them), and I am here to tell you that if I ever expressed any kind of interest in something as ugly as this kind of blouse, he would tie me up, gag me, and hold me in the stock room until I came to my senses.

    Peter Pan collars may be making a comeback if you are a sister-wife, doing cosplay, or bored rich with crappy taste, or some combination of the three, but I would rather wear 80’s day-glo and acid wash.

  76. Bread and Circuses says:

    The blouse is terrible.

    It’d be salvaged if it had a pretty lace collar.

    And the collar could be salvaged on a darker blouse with firmer fabric and some contrasting buttons.

    But the blowsy white satin and the plank of rigid black felt do not go together.