Prince William screamed at his mother after watching her 1995 BBC interview

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As I keep saying, most of the Princess Diana headlines these days are merely old stories repackaged for a new generation. Especially all of this stuff about The Crown, and about Diana’s 1995 BBC interview. We heard, at the time, that Prince William was not happy with his mother for giving the interview. The interview led to so many dominoes falling – shortly after the interview aired, Diana and Charles began divorce proceedings and… yeah, everything that came with that and after that.

In the immediate wake of the interview, Diana went to Eton to speak to William face-to-face about it. We knew, years ago, that William was incredibly mad at his mother about all of it. In truth, William and Diana fought a lot in the last two years of her life, which is interesting to think about now that we know William is always incandescent with rage. Back then, we just thought, oh right, mother and son are cut from the same fiery, temperamental cloth. Maybe that’s true. Or maybe William screamed at his mom from a very young age. That’s what this curious Daily Mail piece is about – it’s partly a rehash of all of those old stories, and how perhaps William is now, currently, thinking differently about all of those fights he had with his mother.

The BBC interview destroyed a lot: It ended her marriage, her royal-ness and — fatally, as it turned out in Paris — her cocoon of royal protection. But beyond that, the interview also had an extraordinary impact on her elder son, William. The implications of Diana’s revelations seem largely to have passed over the head of the younger Harry, who was then just 11 years old. But they struck young teenager William at an especially vulnerable moment.

Diana only thought about the effect the interview would have after she did it: According to Simone Simmons, the Princess’s confidante and faith-healer, it took a phone call from William’s Eton housemaster, Dr Andrew Gailey, to prompt Diana. Gailey had read the advance publicity in the newspapers and phoned to tell her it was ‘imperative’, in his view, that she should come to explain things to William, face to face. ‘Is that really necessary?’ she asked him. In another phone call from Gailey the next day, Simmons told the editor-in-chief of royal magazine Majesty, Ingrid Seward, he effectively ordered Diana down the M4 motorway to talk to her son.

William cried watching the interview: Before the 58 minutes ended, William was weeping. Gailey told Diana that he found her son slumped on the sofa, his eyes red with tears. The Prince pulled himself together to rush back to his room — but when, an hour later, Diana telephoned on the house phone, William refused to take her call. Something inside him had snapped. ‘He hated the idea of everything being on television,’ related Simmons, ‘and he knew his friends would poke fun at him, which they did. He felt she made a fool of herself — and of him.’

When William returned home: By the time he went home to Kensington Palace at the end of that week to see Diana, he was raging. ‘All hell broke loose,’ Diana told Simmons the following Monday. ‘He was furious . . . that she had spoken badly of his father, furious that she had mentioned Hewitt . . . he started shouting and crying and when she tried to put her arms around him, he shoved her away.’ Diana was getting an unpleasant personal experience of William’s notorious temper. He apologised to his mother the next day and presented her with a small bunch of flowers, but Diana sensed that some profound and irretrievable damage had been done. ‘When I saw her later,’ recalled Simmons, ‘there was a look of hopelessness on her face . . . she was still somehow convinced that he would hate her for the rest of his life.’

Harry & William remember Diana in different ways: Harry has always been uncritically proud to tread in his mother’s footsteps. He did so quite literally in September 2019 when he walked through the Huambo minefield in Angola. His passionate royal exit speech of this January — ‘there really was no other option’ — could have been written by Diana herself. But William has been more ambivalent because he was older, and thus had more first-hand experience of the manipulative role that his mother came to play in Windsor politics towards the end of her life.

[From The Daily Mail]

We knew some of this at the time – Diana treated William and Harry differently because of their ages and their positions. Diana treated William more of a friend and confidante but she actually mothered Harry. I personally think that William and Harry both got different facets of Diana’s personality – William got her temper, Harry got her emotional intelligence and short-sightedness – and that affected the way she treated them too. But anyway, just some revisionist history for the last years of Diana’s relationship with William. I remember reading a quote that after Diana’s death, the two boys were absorbed and programmed into the family and they were “fully Windsorized,” something that would not have happened had Diana lived. I feel like Harry spent years deprogramming himself. William… has not.

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  1. Chica1971 says:

    The raging started early.. Sounds like he needs a therapist

    • minx says:

      I think it makes him sound surprisingly human. A 13 year old boy raging at his mother? Not unusual.

      • Honora says:

        I agree with both of you! It’s normal/common and therapy is always a good thing with the right therapist

      • Kalana says:

        I criticize William a lot but Diana was the adult and the parent and *she* chose to put William in a position where he thought he had more control and influence over her decisions than he really did. So it must have been even more devastating to have this incredibly public sign that he didn’t.

        William reacted like the child he was in an emotionally abusive situation. He didn’t need judgement for this, he needed support and stability and the space to be a kid. It seems unsurprising that he’s grown up to be a little bit of a failure to launch and attached himself to the Middletons who coddled their children well into adulthood.

      • Chica1971 says:

        But he’s still raging at father, KP and brother. He needs help because Wills has kids too.

      • Tessa says:

        Did he yell at his father when he admitted adultery on TV 18 months before his mother’s interview?

      • Farfromreality says:

        Agreed. I sided with Diana, but that interview was a lot (I couldn’t watch it at the time because of secondhand embarrassment – Diana really laid it on and the kohl around her eyes …). I hate Willnot, but I think this was a completely understandable reaction.

      • M.A.F. says:

        Especially at a mom who is a public figure (compare to his friednds) and kept airing (along with others in the Royal Family) all of the family’s lanudry. He directed his anger at mom because who else was he going to direct it at? Grandma? Dad? Sure but he seemed to be closest to mom & probably had more access to her. I’ve said it before on this site, the three of them – Dad & the two brothers- have got to do family therapy.

      • HeyJude says:

        A 13-year-old putting his hands on and shoving his mother however, is quite something though.

    • Nanny to the Rescue says:

      Might also be a problem in his upbringing. In this, Diana is as guilty as Charles.

    • Elizabeth Regina says:

      Both parents behaved badly when it came to airing their dirty laundry. Their homes must have been a cesspool of toxicity with the infidelity, jealousy over popularity, bulimia and finger pointing etc despite trappings of wealth and status. I don’t blame a 13 year old William for shouting at his mother. Now we wonder why he’s turned against his brother.

      • I read too that one of the last times Diana and William talked on the phone they had an argument about — not just her relationship with Dodi — but with her flaunting of it (the photos of her kissing Dodi, etc). William and Harry had spent time with Diana on the Fiad’s boat that summer and he was unhappy then too. He felt they were being used. The last month or so of her life she and William were supposedly greatly at odds over this issue.

      • Tessa says:

        I don’t think Will and Harry were unhappy during their vacation on the Al Fayed yacht. Dodi did not show up right away, Al Fayed was there with his second wife and young children. The boys looked very happy and enjoying themselves. I think later it was spun that they were miserable. Diana’s first choice for vacation was in the Hamptons but was turned down because of security issues. Diana got the Queen’s approval for the yacht vacation, she and the boys could not have gone otherwise.

    • GRUEY says:

      With this kind of story I always wonder what the goal is. Did William sign off on this? Did Charles? Is wills trying to put distance between himself and his mother (he knew how manipulative she was—that’s gross to me). Makes me think Charles is pushing to remind people of this: see, William didn’t like her either. It’s back to running the same negative campaign playbook from the divorce era: manipulative, crazy, bad mother, (oh and bonus 11 year old Harry was clueless).

      • Tessa says:

        William as a child was quite manipulative. I think his parents coddled him and after Diana died his father coddled William and threw Harry under a bus.

      • Islandgirl says:

        Agree with you Guey….I see this article coming from or in support of Charles not William. A story that shows the negative impact of Diana’s interview on William. Some people might also be upset with William for his reaction….not taking into consideration that he was just 13 years old.
        My experience is that boys are more likely to show their emotional side to their mothers and not their fathers.
        William however does need counseling because he seems to have gone on to live the very lifestyle that hurt his mothet so much. Having said that I don’t know what the true nature of his marriage to Kate is.

  2. lanne says:

    Here is where I really do feel sorry for William, as horrible a person as I think he is. To be 13 in the midst of roiling puberty is difficult enough, but to have your mother air embarrassing family laundry to the world must have been humiliating beyond reckoning. This is the age when kids are embarrassed by their parents generally, and certainly don’t want to think of them as sexual beings. Kids tend to have really black and white moral compasses as this age as well. He was going to school with boys who would tease him about this, or even worse, he would know they were talking and laughing behind his back. Rage is a completely reasonable response for a 13 yr old. What a shitty situation for a kid.

    • Mumbles says:

      It was not Diana’s best moment, and it would be even worse if it turns out, as it looks, that she was tricked into doing it.

    • equality says:

      Didn’t Charles do an interview also? Did he rage at him for airing family laundry? Or was raging confined to the female parent?

      • Lady D says:

        Confined to the female.

      • kelleybelle says:

        He did, and he lied in it, too. This is a good question.

      • M.A.F. says:

        but this is a society problem – moms & dads are treated differently.

        Also, everyone keeps bringing up that Charles did an interview around the time of this one. Honestly, I have ZERO memory of that one. I do, however, remember the Diana one and I’m only a year older than William so I’m guessing that one didn’t make as much wave as the Diana one did.

      • Mignionette says:

        Also didn’t Charles have a hand in the raging given that he leaked details of Diana’s affairs to make her look slutty in full knowledge that he had two teenage sons. One of whom was way too young to understand what was going on.

      • Carrie says:

        Not just his interview but the tampon phone call.

      • Becks1 says:

        Wasn’t Charles’ interview the night of the “revenge dress?” So Diana “upstaged” him yet again and his interview was probably not as well remembered as that dress.

      • Melissa says:

        The tampon phone call was a obtained from an illegal tap if I remember correctly? It isn’t like Chuck did an interview.

        We don’t know if William raged at Chuck because it isn’t sensational. As mentioned above, I’m a bit older and I vaguely remember that Charles admitted to being a cad, but it landed NOTHING like the international bomb that Diana’s interview did.

        There is a lot to criticize Normal Bill about — being freaked out about this particular interview doesn’t seem like it. To use it as an excuse to paint him a misogynist seems wrong.

    • Esme says:

      Also, the celebrity confessional is now a subgenre of journalism, but at the time it was unprecedented – William had no idea what to expect, and could not “brace for it”.
      The impact must have been devastating, a betrayal of trust and confidence and family feeling.
      I think both parents did a major disservice to their children by having their fights via interviews and the media. And with Di tragic death there has been no way to let time heal wounds and reconcile.

    • STRIPE says:

      Yeah same. I think we can all agree that William certainly is not perfect in a lot of areas but his reaction is not out of line here IMO.

    • Eleonor says:

      I agree with you.
      And if I got it right he had to dealwith the interview alone.
      Harry is younger but William at 13 and that interview? Honestly raise your hand if you wouldn’t have been mad too.

    • Cecilia odette says:

      Uhm charles gave an interview in 1994 where he admitted to cheating. He was the one that aired the dirty laundry first. Why shouldn’t Di give her version of events?

      • lanne says:

        No ones saying she shouldn’t give her version. We’re all saying we understand a 13 year old boys reaction to his mother doing it. I don’t expect a kid to think about the double standard or the way we regularly give men a pass for things we excoriate women for. It’s just about understanding a kids visceral reaction to his mom. I think kids hold moms to higher standards anyway. A moms betrayal feels worse because we lived inside her body and have a literal life connection to her. I’m not saying it’s right or fair, but I can easily see how William would hate his mother for doing something his father did. He has to deal with the public reaction of the world to his mom. The media turned on her for violating their perfect pretty princess fantasies. Princesses aren’t supposed to be people after all. They are projections of our fantasies.

      • Tessa says:

        I think William was coddled by his parents and his behavior should have been put in check. And his father even apologized for William’s bad behavior (he trespassed on a neighbor’s estate, speeding along in a car) and Harry had to do an apology tour.

      • MissMarierose says:

        Because she should have put her children first and because she knew her children were likely hurt and embarrassed by their father’s interview.

        I don’t believe for one second Diana was blind sided. She had to have known how it would affect William because – as you point out – he just went through that same embarrassment of his father’s interview.

    • Nikki* says:

      I agree with you totally on this. And it also put his dad up for shaming, which is not a good thing either to a 13 year old.

    • 809Matriarch says:

      Mother airing family dirty laundry, manipulative – hmm.
      Diana was doing the best she could in a horribly toxic situation. People criticize her for not behaving in a suitably wise way. The point is, Diana was traumatized and damaged. She suddenly found herself ISOLATED from friends and family and pretty much kept as a Windsor family pet. Expected to sit, curtsey, smile on command. She was expected to accept her husband’s infidelity like water off a duck’s back. I remember her hopeful response in an engagement interview when she said, “with Charles by my side, I won’t go wrong…” Only thing was, Charles wasn’t by her side. Even on her D@mn honeymoon, photos of Camilla were falling out of his day planner, he was wearing jewelry WITH HIS AND CAMILLA’S INITIALS INTERTWINED. What kind of BS is that?

      No it was a blatant slap in the face! Then he takes her for 6 weeks to Balmoral at the end of their honeymoon and never makes any effort to try to see what interests her and find some common ground. Instead, he’s reading stuff by Laurens Van Der Post, indeed inviting a passel of his highminded intellectual friends. One gets the impression he thought of Diana as posh Eliza Doolittle that he was going to change into the perfect consort. The constant rejection and implications that she just didn’t measure up was cruel. She produced an heir and a spare and after that she was just emotionally dumped.

      How could she be an effective nurturing mother when she was fractured herself by Charles insistence on not being the only Prince of Wales without a mistress. If Diana became “manipulative” it was self defense. I don’t care how much effort Chuckie made to rehabilitate Camilla’s image, she’ll always be the home wrecker to me.

      • Melissa says:

        But this is about a 13 year old boy’s reaction. I don’t think any of us begrudge Diana telling her side of the story, in fact most of us are outraged that much of her side has been erased.
        None of that invalidates William’s very puberty driven reaction.

    • Tessa says:

      So his father’s confessions did not embarrass William? Or the Camillagate tape?

  3. Marigold says:

    I saw The Crown finale last night. Charles was so horrible. I knew that he was. But to see it was unbelievable. Diana could do nothing right in that family. Diana tried to get out. I love that Meghan succeeded.

    • minx says:

      Those last scenes of the BRF Christmas gathering really struck a chord in me. I can imagine Diana feeling shunned, ignored, unwelcomed and gossiped about by the entire clan. And Elizabeth hurried away from talking to Diana because she had to feed her dogs! It was a script, I know, but I have no trouble believing that TQ would prioritize her dogs over her daughter in law.

  4. Sofia says:

    I don’t blame William for reacting the way he did. He was a teenager after all. And I definitely do think they both got different lessons from their parents marriage and that has manifested in not just their personalities but also their choice of spouse.

    • Elizabeth Regina says:

      Exactly! Any teenage boy will react the way he did. The choice of spouse of each brother is rather telling. William went for someone who would not overshadow him. Harry went for someone who would enable his emotional growth.

      • Gina says:

        I want to add. William went to the wife who’s the opposite of his mother. Harry chose somebody who remind him of his mother’s best traits.

      • Tessa says:

        William married a superficial person who is praised for her hair and clothes.

      • BABSORIG says:

        I disagree. I raised 5 children, two of them boys but my kids would never ever raise their voices to me, leave alone “shoving” me, regardless of how bad I fcuked up, and I did fcuk up quite a few times. But to my boys, I was always their mother and their parent so I would never excuse child to parent abuse of any kind. And notice that the article says William fought with his mother the last 2 years of her life, which means he was abusive from about 10 to 11 years old so thats a huge red flag. And didn’t he pull a towel off of his mother to expose her nakedness because he felt she was flirting? Moreover, there are no reports of Harry raising his voice at his mother, none. Yeah, William has always been, still is and will always be a vile, abusive, if not violent, person.

    • Mrs.Krabapple says:

      Yeah, William got the wife Charles THOUGHT he was getting, a woman who wouldn’t stand up for herself and would be content to be a brood mare. Considering Diana’s eating disorder, you would think William cared about Kate’s obvious eating problem too, but you’d be wrong. William only care about William.

      • carmen says:

        Totally agree with your comment about the ED. With Diana’s history, you would think that William & the rest of the fam would have been on high alert and would have clued in & helped Kate. If anything, William probably caused it – Kate seemed to be healthy and athletic prior to the wedding.

    • bevhead says:

      Sorry no. He doesn’t get a pass for being a teenager. At 13 he should have known better and we can definitely hold him accountable. It’s abundantly clear that his misogyny and racism began at a young age. I think his resentment of Megan is because she is so similar to Diana.

      • Sofia says:

        I can and will criticise William for his actions he does now. I have even said on this very post in other comments that William’s childhood does not excuse his actions now.

        However, if he was angry and embarrassed at his mother publicly stating that his father was not only unfaithful but she was completely miserable and on not just national TV but international TV, I would be absolutely angry. Especially if I was 13. If he was 35 or something? Different story but a 13 year old being embarrassed and angry at his parent is nothing new or anything out of the ordinary.

      • bevhead says:

        Except I don’t see any articles about Harry being a screaming abusive misogynist? So yeah I think a 13 year old should know better. Age is not an excuse. You can see the coldness William had towards his mother in all of their footage together since he was a kid. Please watch the footage from the 1986 doc and tell me that is not a misogynist in the making!

      • Sofia says:

        A 13 year old being embarrassed and angry by his mother is not misogyny. It’s pretty typical teenage behaviour. A lot of teenagers go through a phase where they hate everything their parent or both parents do.

        Now again, I agree that he hasn’t stopped being angry at everything and his childhood is not an excuse to be the man he is now at almost 40.

      • tcbc says:

        I absolutely disagree. Diana parentified William, and that was wrong. She is as responsible for what he turned out to be as Charles is. I really think the main thing that protected Harry WAS that he was the spare, so he was less important, and got less attention from BOTH of his parents.

      • Nic919 says:

        William being mad as a teen is one thing. William now is his fault. He’s almost 40 and his issues are his own because he hasn’t done anything, like therapy, to deal with them. And the worst thing is that he promotes mental health but is a total hypocrite and attacks Harry as fragile for being open about his therapy and his feelings. Billy is just a bully at this point and no one is to blame except himself.

  5. Keekey says:

    I HATE the bit about Diana playing a “manipulative role” in Windsor politics like that’s some character flaw. They *all* play manipulative roles in Windsor politics. That’s why it’s called “politics.” BRF still can’t stand that a woman who was supposed to be powerless and dance to their tune found a way to gain some leverage for herself.

    • CC. says:

      Exactly! The whole family runs om PR. It reminds me of what Taylor Swift said: if a man does something, it’s strategic, if a woman does something, it’s calculated.

      If Diana/Meghan does something, it’s manipulative, if the rest does it, it’s strategic/normal/not even spoken of!

      • molly says:

        When your entire life and family is the same thing as your very public work, EVERYTHING is PR all the time. There’s no getting away from it. The only way to get away from it is to move half way across the world and give it all up. Otherwise, the public will always “own” you.

      • Jules says:

        Being strategic or manipulative are two sides of the same coin. It has nothing to do with gender, men and women can be both. It’s only us who put the gender roles onto it due to societal conditioning.

    • Seraphina says:

      Thank you Keekey, exactly. Well said.

    • Nic919 says:

      Why aren’t they mentioning his reaction to the interview Charles did months before? Maybe William was mad at both of them, which he has every right to be, but this is spun to make Diana look like the only one spilling secrets.

    • Nic919 says:

      Why aren’t they mentioning his reaction to the interview Charles did months before? Maybe William was mad at both of them, which he has every right to be, but this is spun to make Diana look like the only one spilling secrets.

  6. Redder says:

    I feel like this article is so pointless, even if everything about it was true. We can blame William with a lot of thing and I have a lot of names reserved for him, but this sucks. He was a kid, and he was allowed to feel upset by that interview. As Kaiser said, Diana treated Will like a friend, and I could see why he would be upset by an interview like that.

    • Tessa says:

      Diana did not treat William as a “friend.” If anything she was stricter with him than Charles was (before and after DIana died). If anything, Charles treated William as a friend who would help his PR for Camilla. Charles treated the heir better than the spare, at least Diana did not see Harry as just the spare.

  7. CatWomen says:

    He had a messed up childhood. Of course he walks around angry he is triggered because it goes back to his being angry about his role in his family, his family, His situation . The Middletons are his proxy fantasy family vs his own. His marriage to Kate is more about the importance of a secure family vs romantic love in terms of his priorities.

  8. Amelie says:

    Well I can’t fault William the Teenager for acting out the way he did. The fact that Diana didn’t even consider how that interview would affect her sons just shows how shortsighted and, honestly, incredibly thoughtless she was in making that decision. William was 13 and omg, I remember the awkwardness of that age, puberty and hormones raging. I was so shy and didn’t want anyone to look at me. Now imagine your mom, the most famous woman in the world, goes on television to discuss how unhappy she was being married to your father for the whole world to see and to reveal intimate details like infidelity. I honestly think I would have had a panic attack and would have ended up in the hospital, no joke, that’s how bad my anxiety was at that age.

    So yeah, I can’t fault William for blowing up at his mom and Diana deserved it to some extent. I realize she wanted to get her side of the story out there but Andrew Morton’s book had already come out at that point. She didn’t need to do that interview. None of this excuses William the Adult’s rages obviously, but I have empathy for him as a kid. Because that’s what he was, just a kid.

    • CC. says:

      I feel for him too, but i cant help but feel like the interview ended up being sort of good. When we look back at Diana’s treatment, we always remember this interview and others she had done. The interview elicited a strong reaction from the public and did protect her to some extent, from the smearing the RF tried to do. Unfortunately, it resulted in scarring William.

    • Tessa says:

      Diana did not deserve it If she did then Charles sure did. Charles would be with Camilla somewhere before and after Diana died. He would send faxes to his sons to KP. Also, Charles did not wait a year before he started “introducing” Camilla to them. The boys were seen smoking and drinking at Charles 50th birthday party at Highgrove with Camilla guest of honor.

      • Aurelia says:

        Agreed Tessa. Mrs Parker-Bowles had been constantly in their lives since they were young. She was always hanging around.

    • Thirtynine says:

      Thats one way of looking at it. Another way would be not how thoughtless she was but how desperate she was.

  9. Liz says:

    I very much separate current William from child William in my mind. That reaction seems entirely age-appropriate and appropriate to the situation, depending on the child’s personality. I don’t remember the interview (I’m the same age as William but I’m American so I do remember coverage of the Royals, but probably not to the extent that I would have if I were British), but I could see myself reacting the same way. I’m sure Diana needed to do what she did for her own peace of mind and mental health (and the public did have a right to know how shitty the Windsors were to her), but how incredibly damaging and hurtful for those boys.

    Also, I don’t believe for a second that the ramifications of the interview just “went over [Harry’s] head.” Just because he wasn’t having a raging meltdown (which, again, I don’t think was abnormal for a child in William’s situation to do) does not mean he was oblivious and unaffected. The things these people write in these dumb tabloid pieces are often just unfathomably stupid and short-sighted.

  10. ABritGuest says:

    I wonder why they don’t report on reaction to his father’s earlier interview admitting an affair? Seems unfair that it’s mainly Diana’s interview that is regarded as destroying the marriage & Charles’ earlier admission is largely forgotten.

    Anyway I don’t blame William for his reported reaction. Family breakdowns are tough as it is & having that & parents affairs on national tv and press must have been mortifying. I have a lot of sympathy for William & Harry in that respect.

    • JT says:

      This what I don’t get. Charles also had a revealing interview where he admitted to cheating on Diana. Why isn’t anyone upset about that? Where is William’s incandescent rage at Charles? Why doesn’t the press bring up the fathers many manipulations?

      • lanne says:

        Men are allowed to be forgiven for cheating. Women aren’t. Literature is full of men gaining redemption after cheating. (Dr zhivago for ex). Women get redemption through dying (Anna karenina, Emma bovary). Men are expected to cheat in the upper classes and women are supposed to accept it ( the queen, even Kate get tacit media approval for tolerating cheating). Boys will be boys the saying goes. Girls will be miserable sluts who must die.

      • Maxime duCamp says:

        I think in this case it’s a bit more complicated than men are allowed to cheat and women aren’t (although that probably played a hand in it). From what I’ve heard and read about that time period, Diana involved her children, particularly William, in her life and “grown-up” problems in a way that was both inappropriate but also probably gave William the sense that he had a say in her decisions. It’s understandable, she was isolated, her own family was effed-up and she had no good parental models on which to model appropriate boundaries and I’m not saying that Charles was the better parent in any way. But I think in this case he probably didn’t air his problems in front of the children if only because he probably didn’t have as close a relationship with them. And that may be another factor; people that you’re closer to have far more power to upset and disappoint than people with whom you have an emotional distance.

    • atorontogal says:

      How devastating would it have been to hear his father’s words “I want to be your tampon”? As was splashed to the world thanks in part to Daily Mail’s hacking scandal. His father also gave an interview long before his mother, I hope some of his “incandescent rage” was reserved for him as well.

    • RoyalBlue says:

      Thank you! Why not report on his reaction to his father’s interview? It’s because this is all about gaslighting Diana in her grave due to the Crown’s relatively favorable portrayal. And trying to justify Cain’s incandescence with rage. See from this thread many people empathising with Cain.

    • Itsme! says:

      Iirc he took it out on Diana because when his father did his interview (first) she was there to console him and so he burst at his mother because she went round and did the same thing, after seeing how it has affected him.

  11. vintage claret says:

    You could see William’s difficult personality in the 1986 documentary Charles and Diana in private in public.
    Remember the scene where William and Harry in miniature
    military uniforms…William refusing to behave and Diana saying something to the effect of her and Harry leaving together etc..essentially leaving William alone in the grounds of Highgrove. William has always been an obstinate, pompous sh*t.

    • Imogene says:

      I think that is a bit much to say about a 4 year old, regardless of who we know he would grow up to be. :/

      • lanne says:

        I agree. Yikes. Williams a shit but I’ll bet all of us had times as 4 year olds when we could have been forecast to be the next Atila the Hun.

      • Lorelei says:

        @Imogene/Lanne ITA. I cannot stand William and would rarely defend him, but I think criticizing him for this is just too much.

        When I was a teenager I was *horrible* to my parents at times, as were most of my friends. That age is so hard to begin with, the hormones, etc. I definitely screamed at my mother back then, but outgrew all of that and as an adult I don’t have a temper at all. Being a teenager is so difficult and William had to deal with all of his drama publicly.

        William happened to grow up into someone who does have rage issues (along with jealousy, control issues, and god knows what else), but I don’t think we can fairly trace them back to when he was four or even 13 years old. Every small child throws tantrums, and teenagers are predictably self-conscious and moody.

    • bevhead says:

      Thank you for saying this! You can tell in all the footage from when they were kids that he had serious issues with women! Not surprising how he turned out

      • Melissa says:

        I am curious, if the footage is indeed from when he was 4 years old, where would these ‘serious issues with women’ have arisen from?

  12. MissK says:

    This explains a lot about William and actually makes him a lot more sympathetic in my eyes. The parentification, the oversharing, the covert abuse, no wonder he was so angry. Combined with the stiff upper lip ethos and likely an aversion to therapy, it explains the narcissism, the view of himself as the victim in the Harry/Meghan situation. It’s a shame he wasn’t afforded the help he needed at that tender age. It’s probably too late now.

    • Sofia says:

      I do believe however that his childhood and how he suffered does not give him an excuse to act the way he does as an almost 40 year old man.

      It explains his behaviour but it doesn’t justify it.

      • Becks1 says:

        His childhood absolutely explains his current behavior – not just his parents marriage dissolving the way it did, but being raised as the “future king” and getting special treatment from the family from day one. It’s kind of a perfect storm for someone to turn into an asshole.

      • Sofia says:

        @Becks which I completely understand and have sympathy for both of them considering the childhood they had.

        However you cannot keep using your shitty childhood (even with the one that he had) as an excuse to act like a piece of shit.

        Again, that doesn’t take away my sympathy for his childhood

      • Becks1 says:

        @Sofia exactly, i’m with you. I can understand “why” he’s turned out the way he has and yet not excuse his current behavior. He’s still an asshole.

      • Snuffles says:

        👆🏽 THIS

        What I’m getting from this is that William never truly processed his traumatic childhood and continues to be a rage monster doomed to repeat his parents mistakes. Harry, got therapy, worked on his issues and has grown as a person encompassing the best aspects of each parent.

        At some point, people need to stop making excuses for William and his current behavior.

        And I too am appalled at the double standard in regards to the reaction to Charles to doing the same thing FIRST. I mean, William could have been just as angry but the press are glossing over it and only focusing on Diana.

      • Nic919 says:

        He needs therapy that much is obvious. Harry has spoken about getting it but William hasn’t, despite his platform of destigmatizing mental health issues for men. And if we look at them both now, it’s obvious that Harry is the more well adjusted adult, especially considering the nonsense his family has pulled.

        Both boys had traumatic childhoods but only one seems to have taken serious steps to get help.

    • MissK says:

      I want to clarify, when I say covert abuse, I don’t mean solely from Diana. I think the relationships and pressures extended upon him are were inappropriate for a child to endure, from her, Charles and other members of the RF

      • MissK says:

        Asshole or even narcissist, which explains the rage, the easily wounded temperament, the victim mentality, and self importance. Unfortunately, narcissism isn’t treatable, which is why I have a bit of sympathy *if* that is indeed the case with William, as it is caused by childhood mistreatment and grooming. Once you reach adulthood, it’s too late.

      • Liz says:

        @Missk I completely agree that these boys were abused. We tend to shy away from labeling emotional abuse as “real” abuse, especially when it’s happening to a child living in a materially-privileged situation. However, the human body is the human body, no matter how wealthy the person living in it is. Emotional abuse can traumatize a child long-term in the same ways physical abuse can, and I think we see that clearly in William, Harry, Charles…so many of these rich people raised in cold, mean, manipulative families.

      • ArtHistorian says:

        I honestly think that the way the Windsors manage the Family/Firm as is essentially emotionally abusive – it isn’t a coincidence that this family has produced deeply damaged, even broken people over several generations. It is a family that cripples its members emotionally and it has gone on for a very long time. The situation between Charles and Diana was probably the most toxic and explosive in the history of the family – and that marriage only happened because the Windsors didn’t actually view Diana as a human being but rather vessel for the continuation of the royal bloodline and a blank slate for them to mold into what they considered acceptable.

        In turn, I think she leant too much on William than was appropriate (because she was essentially alone) – and as someone who has been parentified by a parent, it is really something that fucks you up. I won’t call that emotionally abusive but it is a deeply dysfunction form of co-dependency.

        They let the hierarchy of rank determine everything – even private relationships, and the heir/spare dynamic is just so toxic, and it has been really abusive in Harry’s situation with him getting thrown to the wolves of the press for every single misstep while his brother was protected.

    • lili says:

      Yeah, I believe Charles to be a bad guy and William a byproduct of the situation. Also William’s own father will throw him under the bus if it’s convenient. Parent of the year, right?
      It kind of all makes now. Does it excuse William completely? No. But I truly believe he’s not so cruel on purpose.

      • Sofia says:

        Sorry but when you’re almost 40 years old and acting like a piece of shit to your brother (who also happened to go through the same childhood as you) then yeah you’re being cruel on purpose.

      • lili says:

        I don’t know, maybe he didn’t go to therapy and is unaware of his actions. Still an asshole. Just Charles more.

      • Sofia says:

        So is that your excuse for William? He can treat his brother however he wants because he didn’t go to therapy and isn’t aware of his actions even when he’s approaching 40?!?


      • Liz says:

        @Sofia- I don’t think sympathizing with the child who endured abuse equates to excusing horrible adult behavior. I think many people just want to understand how a person who behaves like William comes into existence and his childhood, coupled with the fact that he has never tried to get better as an adult (as far as we know/can speculate) is a huge part of that.

        In general, I think people want to understand how this happens to a person so that they can understand how to help keep other children from turning into rage-filled adults who can’t process emotion properly, like William.

        People are complex. Knowing and accepting that William is a bad person now doesn’t mean we can’t acknowledge that he was completely failed by his parents and extended family as a child.

      • Sofia says:

        @Liz: and I have said I have full sympathy for the childhood that he had.

        But again, people with terrible childhoods cannot keep using it as a shield to act in a way they want, whenever they want. Again, like I’ve said, it explains William’s behaviour but it does not justify it. It does not justify him acting like the way he did towards his brother, who also went through the same childhood he did. Explains it, but again, does not justify it.

        Lots of people had abusive childhoods. But they do take responsibility for the action they take as adults, even if said actions are the result of said childhood.

      • M.A.F. says:

        but did Harry go through the same things as William? From what I am gathering from the comments here alone is that Harry was shielded from a lot of the crap both parents put on William. They might have been present for the same event but that doesn’t mean they experienced it the same way (I think the only exception would be her death & funeral).

      • Sofia says:

        @MAF Royal or not, kids don’t experience the same childhood – even if you’re siblings. However it doesn’t make Harry’s experience any less harrowing or bad. Let’s not play oppression olympics please.

      • Nic919 says:

        William and Harry both had parents who had a bitter public divorce and their mother tragically died. Trying to make excuses for William because Diana allegedly spoke to him more is a minor distinction when those two major events happened to both Harry and William equally. The fact that Harry got help and William didn’t shows what kind of character each has. And we know that the Windsors treated William better because he was the heir, and then he latched on the Middletons because there again he was treated as a king.
        Harry had none of this and likely only felt part of a family once he served so really Harry had less “help” and managed to become a better man.

    • Yes, better for him to tell others to get therapy then to actually get therapy himself!?. William needs to walk the walk before he talks the talk.

    • Tessa says:

      William could just be plain mean. People have worse childhoods much worse but they don’t throw their brother and sister in law under a bus.

      • Amy Too says:

        I think people who are genuinely mean asshole, bad people will take any childhood abuse and trauma and direct their brokenness outwards: hitting out, lashing out, screaming out. They turn their hurt into anger, rage, violence, and abuse, and they direct it at others. They hurt other people.

        I think people who are genuinely good people at their core, take their childhood abuse and trauma and direct their brokenness inwards. They hurt themselves. Addictions, depression, anxiety, cutting, eating disorders. Their brokenness manifests as anger and sadness just like any other broken persons would, but because they’re good people, they turn that anger and sadness inwards, rather than outwards where it can hurt other people.

        I think that’s the difference between Harry and William. Same parents, same upbringing, same family, same institution, same pain and trauma, same emotional abuse, same huge trauma events (public interviews from both parents, divorce of parents, infidelity of both parents, death of mother, lack of any emotional support after that death, walking behind the coffin, drinking and drugging early, being sent away to school early). Yet one has become synonymous with the phrase “incandescent with rage,” while the other is known for his depression and PTSD. External anger/hurt, internal anger/hurt.

      • Nic919 says:

        He’s not much different than Trump. And both are different from the rest of their siblings who are not the malignant narcissists these two are.

    • bevhead says:

      Ummm he’s been acting this way since he was 4. Since when do 13 year olds get a pass to be misogynist?

      • lanne says:

        I think very few 13 yr old boys aren’t misogynist to a degree. They’re inculcated with toxic masculinity right at their most vulnerable time. They are taught that hostility is the only acceptable emotion to show. They are roiling with hormones, and women are easy targets for their misplaced and misunderstood rage. They’re trying to define what it means to be a man, and they see our culture rewarding men who actively behave badly toward women. Many men grow out of this to some degree as they gain in maturity, but many do not.

  13. Becks1 says:

    I don’t blame him for being upset – it must have been very hard to have your parents divorce play out as publicly as it did – but that said, this article is interesting because it reads very close to Lacey’s description of the incident, and I also find it interesting that the Mail is being so open about William’s “notorious temper.”

    • MissK says:

      But William didn’t have the same childhood as Harry. William was groomed since birth to be a future King. Harry never had that role foisted upon him. The expectations and treatment these boys received not only from within palace walls but also outside of them, was completely different.

      • Nic919 says:

        Even more reason for William to get a lot of therapy if he is expected to have a more public role. But it’s clear he hasn’t.

      • Becks1 says:

        I didn’t say anything about Harry and his childhood, but it IS noteworthy that Harry has not ended up as this total petulant rage monster.

      • Thirtynine says:

        You’re right about that. William was groomed to be future king. Harry was groomed to be fall guy. Completely different.

  14. Noki says:

    They said that the boys were always more relaxed in the country doing outdoorsy things than when they had to visit Diana and deal with the paparazzi scrum. I bet when they were with the Windsors they probably highlighted this to the boys, and no i dont feel the Windsors were above parent alienation.

  15. February-Pisces says:

    William is an aristo through and through. Even though she was a Spencer, I think Diana’s name is pretty much mud in that crowd because she was a maverick and did things differently. She broke the mould which is something that is frowned upon in those circles. I think William resents that part of Diana and is embarrassed by it, because he absolutely sees things from their perspective. Whereas harry loves that part of Diana and is kinda proud of her rebellious ways. Harry and Diana are Mavericks, whilst Willie and Charles remain committed to their aristocratic upbringing.

    I understand William must have been hurt by his parents actions back then, which is why I’m so disappointed in how he’s turned out. Cheating, lies and paying games with the press lead to so much heartache, so why is he a cheater now? Why doesn’t he treat Kate better? Does he not think about his own children and how they would react to his actions? Also Why does he have to smear his brother and SIL in the press? He knows first hand how stuff like this hurts, and yet he still manage to surpass his parents in the worst possible way.

    • Elizabeth Regina says:

      Cognitive dissonance.

    • Tessa says:

      Diana would not have been proud to say the least of William engineering the Flybe stunt to put down his brother.

    • Amy Too says:

      I think he’s recreating the past but hoping to win the game this time. This time, it’s going to end how he wants. He’s playing both Charles and boy William, Kate is playing Diana. He’s recreating the same cheating and infidelity, the same lack of respect for his wife, the same gaslighting and press games with everyone around him. But in this version of events, Kate (Diana) stays, she doesn’t divorce, she doesn’t speak out, and she doesn’t die. Charles (William) gets everything he wants and gets to do everything he wants and gets to be top dog as befitting his status in the RF. The Prince of Wales is back on track—aristocratic family man and mistresses on the side, as it should be. And Child William (also adult William) doesn’t get hurt. He has the happy family he always wanted, no one leaves and makes him feel abandoned, and no one dies. He’s reliving the whole thing in order to “fix” the ending.

      • February-Pisces says:

        I think he thinks by giving Kate a 10 year audition to see if she’s willing to tolerate his cheating, then he’s somehow fixing the mistakes his parents made. Did he ever think about finding a woman he loved so much, where he didn’t have to cheat? Nah. Ultimately William found a Diana opposite in kate and made sure she was willing to accept his behaviour, no matter what, without all the complaining . That’s his version of ‘getting it right’.

        It makes me think that William mustn’t of empathised with what Diana actually went though at the hands of Charles and Camilla. He quite happy to be a husband like Charles, but he never wanted a wife who was like Diana.

      • Thirtynine says:

        Amy Too, I always enjoy your comments, but this a really sinister and creepy thought. It gives me shivers to think about it!

      • Amy Too says:

        I agree that at this point he doesn’t sympathize with his mother and that’s why he’s able to cheat and disrespect his wife and ignore her pain and possible ED, and leave her alone to deal with his family (the RF) and his children in the same way that Charles did to Diana. But I wonder if he ever did sympathize with Diana and then it was sort of indoctrinated out of him after she died and he was engulfed fully by the RF and their ways of thinking and their extreme narcissism. Judging by the how angry he was at his mom in the last couple years of her life, and how he screamed at her and even pushed her after the interview, one would think he never actually sympathized. But if he didn’t, why was he so cold to Charles for years? Keeping him at a distance, even from Charles’ grandchildren, and making him “pay” for what he had done to Diana? At least it was always described as William was punishing Charles for what happened to his mother. But maybe that’s just William. We’ve seen it now with Harry and Meghan. He’s cruel. He’s mean. He’s purposefully hurtful. He’s withholding and sneaky and manipulative and cares most about getting what he wants and being treated as the future King he thinks he is. I’m wondering if Diana had lived, if he would had sort of gone back and forth between isolating himself from her and then from Charles, and back again. Playing them against each other, turning to one when he was mad at the other for some real or perceived slight. He seems to do that to literally everyone around him. Even his own wife. He just seems like a bad person who was raised in the absolute worst way you could raise someone to help them overcome their bad traits, and then also had a bunch of trauma heaped on him at an early age which caused him to lean into his worst traits even more in order to deal with the trauma.

        I have a feeling that he sort of hates his mother and blames her for everything. And so he takes it out on Kate. She is the (future) Princess of Wales, just like Diana. I think he might enjoy punishing Kate because he has mommy issues and sees her as a stand in for Diana. And she absolutely plays into that in every way. And I do think he made sure that he married someone who would not leave and wouldn’t speak up so that in this War of the (Future) Wales, William can finally win and he can prove to himself that a woman and a mother CAN take this kind of abuse and stay, you can treat your wife this way and she will stay for the children, so his mother DIDN’T have to leave and speak out, abandon him, and die. So he can finally validate his feeling that Diana was the problem and it’s all her fault.

  16. Lynda Okoro says:

    Did William react the same way to Charles’tv interview? Or was the rage just reserved gor the female, his mother?
    And if all of this traumatised him as a child then why does he act the same way now?

    • Liz says:

      Because the Windsors don’t believe in introspection or therapy, both things these boys desperately needed and still need today. Thankfully, Harry has the personality or whatever it is to allow him to reprogram himself (and get the help he needed to do so). He was already on that path before he met Meghan, but her love, support, and belief in self-help/self-care has to be immensely buoying for him. William doesn’t have the same kind of personality or partner, and it’s possible his particular position makes it even harder for him. Not an excuse for his behavior, but an explanation.

    • bevhead says:

      Yup! Evem when he was 4 his issues with women were so obvious

  17. StrawberryBlonde says:

    I am the same age as William and had a bit of a crush on him when we were teenagers. I don’t blame him for having been so upset with his mother after the interview. He was 13 and that would have been mortifying. The older I get and now that I have my own child it is just so clear though how messed up the idea of this royal family is. That a child is born into a role that they “must” play and that they are so public from the beginning. It’s not really right at all. I find the BRF fascinating and always have (from over here in Canada) but wow they have made so many horrible mistakes that have been very detrimental to the mental health and happiness of their members. I am glad Harry got out. I am sad for him that his family of origin is so abusive.

    I hope the Cambridge kids and the other young children in the BRF are having better upbringings with more love, and less covert abuse.

    • lili says:

      The Cambridge kids are mostly raised by Kate Carole so while they might have their faults they know how to care and be a close-knit family so for me there IS hope.

      • Tessa says:

        Carole had no say in George being the only child to get a gift when Attenborough came to call, and the other two not getting anything Awkward.

  18. lili says:

    I don’t know if anyone agrees but the Crown and even before the attitude seemed like William is more close to the throne and more natural fit. Charles may have his passions but he repeatedly threw BOTH of his SONS under the bus for his advantage. He still does it! To his sons! Charles is despicable. Also compared to Charles William “wins” – he did less wrong things to be sure. Also the whole trauma he survived. Same goes for Kate – what Camilla did along Charles to Diana was terrible. At least Kate just “stalked” and stayed with William, was lazy but genuinely likes kids. I’m happy Kate and her family are with kids, I have hope kids will have better upbringing. Like her or not but Kate’s parents are close and non toxic.

    • Sofia says:

      I would say pushing your daughter to essentially stalk a man and allegedly purposely taking your daughter’s boyfriend side during fights with your daughter just cause he’s a prince is toxic but to each their own.

      • lili says:

        We don’t know the whole story though. Pippa turned out differently with less stalking more hunting. Also Carole’s husband seems like a genuinely good guy. I don’t even remember his name for this reason alone!

      • Sofia says:

        Yeah and her son plays with dead animals and sells nazi marshmallows

        Great kids.

    • Lemons says:

      I agree that W+K have done less wrong things than Charles and Camilla, but they’ve done less things in general. The good things they do seem to be empty gestures and their manipulative mechanisms seem to be grounded in jealousy and immaturity. I, for one, wouldn’t want either man on the throne, but that’s just me.

      With Charles, I see him justifying his actions as a way to later fulfill good deeds and be a good king. With William, it all seems a means to an end to getting the rich lifestyle he feels he deserves without the work ethic.

      • lili says:

        I wouldn’t the throne life either and since aristo didn’t want that we might be right and in the majority.
        I’m just pointing out that Charles is abhorrent because I don’t see William throwing George under the bus. Cambridges might be petty but Charles is another level. The irony is he was never hot by any means. Like William got sympathy and as a teen he was gorgeous, really handsome, loved by so many and Charles had to fight for his reputation for a few decades and still many people are “blah”. So at least we have that.

      • Becks1 says:

        It’s also worth pointing out that they are a lot younger than Charles and Camilla – its not really fair to compare someone’s failings at 72 to someone who is 38. And we don’t know the whole story about William. I think there are a lot of things that are covered up and when it all finally comes out, William isn’t going to look so rosy.

        and LOL of course he’s going to throw George under the bus. He uses George now to help his image, that’s only going to continue and get worse as time goes on.

      • Lady D says:

        Better believe he will be throwing George under a bus, and George is going to turn around and do the same damn thing to Charlotte that William did to Harry. He’s had a lifetime of watching and hearing daddy’s actions, as did William with Charles. Just think how proud William will be the first time George publicly stabs his sister in the back. There is no escaping for George or any chance of escaping his destiny.
        I sincerely hope for the children’s sake that I’m wrong, I really do. I’m hoping with Kate and Carol’s influence, these children will be a lot closer to each other than most of those royal families.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        ” I think there are a lot of things that are covered up and when it all finally comes out, William isn’t going to look so rosy.”

        Rose Who?

    • Tessa says:

      Will is already throwing the “spares” under a bus even as children. Making a public show of George getting a present and the spares not getting one, and it was nobody’s birthday. Also George with his hair slicked down and dressed up as the HEIR posing with Will, Charles and HM, and then mixing the pudding.

  19. Betsy says:

    I know we’re just supposed to hate Charles and the royal family but every time I read these stories, I’m just screaming internally at how many mistakes were made on all sides throughout the years by so many different actors. It’s just sad.

  20. Cecilia odette says:

    Could those fights (if they happened) not simply be teenager symptoms. Between the ages of 14-16 i went through it with my mom. After that we became best friends

    • Liz says:

      Absolutely. And his mom died only 2 years later. Imagine the guilt that would come from that? If my mom died while I was a teenager, the things I said to her in her final years would haunt me forever because teenagers (even the “good” ones like I was!) are assholes.

    • Lizzie says:

      Doesn’t sound like the rages have ended though.

  21. Seraphina says:

    I wonder how Williams feels knowing his mother passed and how he behaved towards her. What kind of regrets, if any, he has. I recently had a love one pass and it gives me great comfort to know I would always visit when in town and call to talk. Guilt is a terrible thing to live with.

    • February-Pisces says:

      Sorry to hear about your loss. I think the last time he spoke to Diana was a few hours before her accident, and I can’t remember where I heard this, but I think he shouted at her on the phone. I think that must have felt awful if he did and must be something he has had to live with. It can happen to anyone because you don’t know what’s around the corner.

      I definitely think after Diana’s death William has tried to shut down all his emotions. He’s a water sign and am I and we are emotional people and highly sensitive, and sometimes it’s easier to put up barriers than actually deal with our feelings. I think even with harry, he’s somehow detached his feeling for him.

    • M.A.F. says:

      This to me, this explains part of the reason why he has rage issues. If every time he saw his mom it ended in a fight then she dies unexpectedly (and in the nature that she did), and now you can’t say sorry? I could see him (or anyone similar) shutting down & not knowing where to direct that anger. And unfortunately it seems to be coming out as adult.

  22. sandra rifkin-bass says:

    Getting and showing anger is human and appropriate in certain situations. Always raging, which indicates an out-of-control reaction, is not. We don’t know if William always rages, or just shows anger–which can be appropriate or inappropriate depending upon the situation. Clearly, he was brought up by two narcissists, and then straightjacketed into the Windsor stiff upper lip environment. What is encouraging, is that he sought out a more “normal” family in the Middletons, who all seem close and warm.
    My husband was brought up in a household that stifled all anger amongst the siblings and parents. The dad had a heart issue and the mom would say “you’ll kill your father,” if they raised their voices or wanted to do things their way. As a result, they are all crazy. They either use others to express their anger through, or became martyrs. My hubby, got some help and has learned how to express anger better . In the early days, he would stifle his emotions and then erupt wildly when it finally became too much. When he saw my family in action, he was amazed we could disagree, have hot words, and then move on.
    So, expressing anger is a normal reaction in certain situations. Always being angry is a cause for alarm.

  23. jbyrdku says:

    I mean, it goes without saying that a parent should probably ask themselves, “is this publicly televised interview going to irreparably damage my relationship with my child or children?” and/or “is what I’m about to say/do going to hurt my child/children in someway”? Personally, I don’t blame William for his reaction, both at the time or now.

  24. Beach Dreams says:

    I find it interesting that they’re slipping in another reference to his “notorious temper” here. Obviously it will be glazed over because of the context of the story, but it’s a subtle observation that his temper was already a major problem by that point (and is clearly still a big issue).

  25. Smalltown Girl says:

    I almost wonder if this story is coming from Charles, as deflection from the negative publicity from The cCrown? Like “see Diana was a bad parent” and deflect from all the ways Charles was guilty in the marriage, especially since it just discusses Diana’s interview and not Charles’.

    • Tessa says:

      Charles interview and book of 1994 were embarrassments. Philip was said to call his son the Missing Link when he watched Charles public confession.

  26. Lizzie says:

    I’ve never heard of William shouting at his father for his interview, which preceded Diana’s.
    Charles and Diana both behaved badly. Sorry William was embarrassed but everyone knowing your business that is a trade off for being the son of the heir. All of his anger seems to have went to Diana. Was Charles expected to chase him and apologize?

  27. Amy Bee says:

    I think Harry is very proud of his mother while William views her as an embarrassment. William barely appeared in their HBO documentary while Harry was most present and spoke a lot about her and his feelings about her. I got the feeling that Harry was the driving force behind the 20th anniversary of her Diana not William. I think this difference in feeling towards her has played a role in the rift between Harry and William.

  28. Murphy says:

    She was on/off with a lot of people in those last two years, and seemingly off again when she died with them all. William, Fergie, her mother, her brother…

    • Tessa says:

      She and her mother were estranged because her mother did not consult Diana when she talked about Charles and Diana divorce terms. Burrell wrote that Frances would get drunk and scream at Diana about dating Dr. Khan because he was a Muslim. Diana would hang up the phone in tears. She and her brother made up. Fergie made indiscreet comments about Diana in her book. She was NOT estranged from Harry and William. William and Harry said they spoke to her about a day or two before she died. DIana had her loyal friends. DIana and Charles mistake was coddling William too much. He has become bossy and self entitled as an adult.

  29. Tessa says:

    There was supposed to be a show on the BBC a few years ago which detailed William’s anger at his father for blasting a private event (William’s tea with camila) to all media outlets and using William in Camilla promotion. Charles apparently was able to stop the program from being run. But it’s OK to have programs about William’s anger at Diana.

  30. DS9 says:

    I tire of these stories because it’s always all Diana’s fault. Diana could have done better, yes but the idea that she’s wholey responsible for William’s development, his hurt, his anger is ridiculous.

    Charles started this fire by marrying a teenager and contributing to the environment that left her emotionally stunted. He also embarrassed them all first. And he was the surviving parent who finishing ‘raising’ these boys after their mother’s death.

    But no, I have to read about how Diana ruined everything while poor Charles just didn’t know what to do, poor lamb.

    • BayTampaBay says:

      @DS9 – Thanks for stating that the problems could not be all “Diana’s Fault” because the problems were not all “Diana’s Fault”

    • Circe says:

      I am reading The Diana Chronicles now, and I think its important to remember that she literally thought her life was in danger when she gave that interview. The palace was following her, bugging her phone, leaking information about her. Her protection officer died suddenly a year or two before and she truly believed the royal family had him killed! Giving that interview was protection. She probably felt she didn’t have to worry about them trying to shut her up if she just told everybody everything…

  31. Izzy says:

    So basically he’s always been incandescent with rage.

  32. Harper says:

    So no word on Will’s reaction to the Camilla/Charles tampongate? As if that still isn’t mortifying? I think stories about Will yelling at and shoving his mother need to be followed up with how the adults in his life saw that and tried to get him help. But there is never any info on that. Hearing that Will apologized and gave her flowers is sad. And sure, the housemaster at Eton was there to order Diana “down the M4″ but did he get Will any help after witnessing his tears and subsequent humiliation from being teased about the interview? Or does he just like to talk about how he ordered Diana around? All this trauma is most likely unresolved in Will and I can’t imagine what he is really like to be around. But the fact that it looks like Harry & Meg couldn’t get far enough away from him is telling.

    • Sara says:

      Diana was William’s parent, not the house master. It’s her responsibility to deal with the trauma she alone just put her child through.

      • Harper says:

        Yes, but Wills was boarding there. A little communication to tell Di what’s going on with her son while in their care and a suggestion that some help might be needed is not beyond their purview.

      • Lizzie says:

        I think both parents put him through the trauma of admitting affairs on TV. And yes the school certainly did have a responsibility to help William.

  33. Watson says:

    Can’t say i blame will for this reaction. I would have died having both my parents air their affairs and dirty laundry 🧺 out in public. This whole family is mortifying.

  34. SJ Knows says:

    The more I learn about the behind the scenes skullduggery of the BRF + living your entire life in the public eye, the more I am glad I was born into a regular, working class family.
    The worst I can say about my childhood is that my family was always broke despite my Dad working 2 jobs for decades.
    I can not understand how a child can be raised in this way, one child be shear accident of birth is the Chosen One, all others are “spares” WTF?
    And yeah, except for their wealth and excellent jewelry..the entire batch of The Firm and most of their relatives are in need of therapy. The $ does not out weigh the emotional damage they do to each other.

    IMO, 2020 has been an awful year and I hope that Wills and Harry are talking to each other in private at least. Who can dare to guess what might come next?

  35. yinyang says:

    William got to present a new covid vaccine produced by Britain, why does he get to slap his name on everything it’s so annoying.

  36. Deeanna says:

    I’ve been wondering when, exactly, those “almost five years” that Charles “practically never saw Camilla” supposedly took place?

  37. Mel says:

    To be fair no 13 year old wants their parents personal confessions of infidelity front page news. The legacy of D and C will be for forever scarring their children. It must be so difficult for H and W to have to relive these wounds even as adults. For viewers of the crown and bloggers this is all entertainment but it wasn’t and isn’t for the people who were children and living this extremely sad tale.

  38. Ctgirl says:

    All of that situation, from both Charles and Diana, was a dumpster fire. I can’t even imagine what it was like for William at boarding school to live through that. English boarding schools at that time were not the most enlightened. But bless that headmaster for making the effort.