Us Weekly: Duchess Kate has ‘convinced’ William to try for a fourth child?

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As soon as the Duchess of Sussex got so much attention for her pregnancy in late 2018, I started to feel like the Duchess of Cambridge would want to have a fourth child. I was honestly shocked that we got through 2019 AND 2020 without Kate ending up pregnant again. While it was said that Kate had to “convince” William to have a third child (Louis), I’ve felt for some time that Kate’s secret plan was to have four kids, the same number as the Queen, and that William would eventually come around to having a fourth. But who knows, really. Us Weekly thinks they know – they claim that Kate is still thinking about having a fourth.

The more, the merrier! Duchess Kate and Prince William are “trying” to conceive their fourth child.

“Having four children was always part of Kate’s plan,” a source exclusively reveals in the new issue of Us Weekly. “She put the idea on hold when [the coronavirus pandemic] hit, but now there is light at the end of the tunnel with the vaccine and [Prince George and Princess Charlotte] scheduled to return to school in April. She feels ready to start trying again.”

The Duchess of Cambridge, 39, who also shares son Prince Louis, 2, with the prince, 38, has been feeling “broody” since her sister Pippa Middleton’s pregnancy reveal in December 2020. Because she knows that her “clock is ticking,” Kate has been eating a “nutrient-rich” diet to prepare her body.

“It took a while for Kate to convince William, though,” the insider tells Us. “He said that three children is more than enough. The thought of having four made him feel overwhelmed. … But Kate’s desires to have another child have inspired him, and at the end of the day, he loves and appreciates the secure family setting he never had growing up. Why not make it bigger? After taking some time to think about it, he’s on the same page and is excited about the future.”

Kate is hoping for another daughter since she and Pippa, 37, are “extremely close” sisters. The source tells Us, “She wants Charlotte to have the same enjoyable experience — to grow up with a little a sister to confide in and look out for.”

[From Us Weekly]

I know it’s Us Weekly and all, but I feel like there could be some truth to this, honestly. I think Kate loves to have a baby in the house and Louis is coming up on his third birthday in May. I also think Kate would love to have another girl, and it would not surprise me at all if she wanted to have a baby around the same time as Pippa (who I honestly forgot was pregnant). Now, will it actually happen? Who knows. It’s kind of ironic to me that 2020 would have been the perfect time for so many high-profile, image-conscious women to get pregnant. They would have been able to gestate in peace at home, with no demands to step out and, say, be performatively keen.

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  1. Brit says:

    Who knows but having another baby isn’t going to change anything. At this point the media is going to want something after that defeat they suffered yesterday. I would hate to be Kate and William right now because the dirt they’ve been trying to hide is going to be exposed one way or another. They’re already going after Pippa, which is a warning in of itself.

    • Snuffles says:

      What are they saying about Pippa?

      • The Duchess says:

        Talking about how her billionaire husband was on the government furlough list back in December and also how James Middleton is claiming furlough too. Not a good sign.

    • Nievie says:

      to be honest…as a brit…as long as my taxes aren’t paying for her children, Kate can push out as many as she wants. Though now it seems our taxes are paying for TMW James Matthews…..:/

  2. Persephone says:

    Wonder what horrible thing William did that they are trying to deflect eyes from….

    • BayTampaBay says:

      I do not see Cain BPwBT Trainbridge agreeing to a fourth child of his own free will.

    • Yvette says:

      Could be that it’s just Cate’s competitive nature kicking in. I think Cate has bought into the fact that no one else should have a bigger spotlight than her because … future queen. Also, Cate being pregnant again gives William freedom to prune rose bushes.

      • Indiesr says:

        In addition to that, it could also be a reason to get out of all the extra workload our keen CEO has to do. Pregnancy was always one of her ways of avoiding work.

      • Where'sMyTiara says:

        KKKate is about as interesting as watching cardboard rot in the rain, and provides no value to either the BRF or the tabloids.

        So they have to invent crap.

        William’s estranged cousin just gave birth; so Royal Births are in the headlines. And when it’s not involving KKKate, that makes Her Royal Precious, her sycophants and her hagiographers upset about her being “upstaged”.

        Add to that the (as yet unsubstantiated) rumors that Meghan may be expecting again – it’s being floated that’s one reason she won’t fly back to the UK when Harry does this year – of course the RatRota is going to push this narrative.

        The tabloid narrative conveniently leaves out the fact that the ONLY reason the Lamebridges had a third spawn, was because KKKate gave William an ultimatum after the “Other Commonwealth Day Embarrassment”, when news broke that he’d been dad dancing with and losing his phone under waitresses in Verbier.

        KKKate had always wanted three kids, b/c she grew up with 2 sibs. William only wanted two kids. I think maybe his grandma, who had a Reconciliation Baby herself (Andrew the Tosser), advised William at the time to “give the lady what she wants and try to at least *look* like a family man”.

        Do I think KKKate wants a fourth? I think she wants anything that will get her out of doing her job, yet still keep attention focused on her and guarantee her good press after the shambolic choices they’ve made in the past year.

        What I don’t believe, is that William will be goaded into it like last time. I think he’s going to put his Junior Tyrant pants on and tell her to rub up against a lamp post.

      • Lemons says:

        @where’smytiara….*slow clap*

      • Soupie says:

        While reading this thread I got the alert from CNN that Meghan is expecting again. Now for sure Kate will wanna have that 4th child! And they released the news late in the day while the Royal couple is fast asleep 😂

        Congrats to the happy couple!

  3. Sequinedheart says:

    She wants to be as regal as possible because the queen has 4, so she will have 4. Not surprised. Also not surprised as it will buy her another 5 years of excuses to be keen without actually doing any work.

    • Noki says:

      As undriven as she is do you really think anyone would have a whole baby/human simply tp get out of work ? Come on!

      • Becks1 says:

        I mean, she’s done it before. In september 2017, they moved into KP and were finally finally going to be full-time royals and then BAM! Kate’s pregnant and now its been 3.5 years and she still is barely working.

        I think she has babies because she likes babies and wants more kids, but I also think the timing cannot be denied.

      • notasugarhere says:

        She absolutely has done it before, Becks1. Charles hired Quinn to be Kate’s head of staff to get her to get to work. And as you write, Kate got pregnant immediately. Kaiser even joked about it on here when Quinn was hired, every one did.

      • Maria says:

        When said person has enough wealth and nannies to be able to hand off that baby or human, yes.
        Besides, despite all the stories about extreme morning sickness, she does enjoy pregnancy.

      • Seraphina says:

        @Becks and NAS, I wonder if it dawns on her that the people will eventually want her to work and serve – just like the petty one on the throne right now.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        @Nota – Was Quinn staffer that resigned?

      • Alexandria says:

        Huh? Being a royal wife and mother is her thing. What’s so implausible about having another one? We all know she takes birthing heirs and spares seriously.

        As for avoiding work yeah that happens with or without her kids.

        Somebody here said it right. She doesn’t like kids. She likes her kids (which is ok). She is uncomfortable around other kids. Me thinks she should focus on sports. She might be happier “working”.

      • Becks1 says:

        @Bay – yes, Quinn was the one who quit in what seemed to be a very abrupt manner.

        @Seraphina – I honestly dont know. Like I think she knows now, in a vague way, that she was expected to work more than she has over the past 10 years and I think she’s just at the point where shes just not going to. I think she’s that employee who realizes that the pay is the same and the benefits are the same whether they work really hard or not at all so why work hard? At this point I dont know how conscious “avoiding work” is for Kate because she has always avoided work, even before marrying William, so I kind of feel like this is just how she is and she is never going to work more.

        But I do think the public expectations will start to shift as the kids get older and when she becomes duchess of cornwall and then princess of wales – the excuses given for her lack of work – hands on mother, learning the ropes, etc – arent going to hold up anymore. But will she care? I doubt it.

      • Sofia says:

        I honestly go back and forth on “Does Kate really want to work?”

        On one hand, I can totally see William not wanting Kate to work so she doesn’t outshine him but also Kate not having much of a work ethic in the first place. She wasn’t exactly a workhouse while dating William and her siblings aren’t either.

        So I can see both things being true: William doesn’t want her to work and Kate herself doesn’t want to work. Hence why their marriage “works” on that front.

      • Nic919 says:

        Kate doesn’t want to work and William doesn’t care if she doesn’t. We hear no stories of William stopping Kate from doing projects because she just doesn’t care to. In her lifetime she worked part time for a few months prior to her engagement at 29 which is lazy as hell even looking at other rich girls. She can’t even pretend she’s doing charity work instead of paid employment.

        That said the exhausted CEO would seem a bit hypocritical adding another baby to the mix, even with all the staff to help her.

      • Sequinedheart says:

        “As a busy mother of 4, ….” will be pushed every time they don’t wanna do something

      • twoz says:

        Jumping in late – Keith Richards’ mother did, I believe.

    • Nievie says:

      I don’t know…if she wants to be SUPER regal Queen Victoria had seven …..:p

  4. HeatherC says:

    Have a girl so Charlotte has someone to confide in? It will be years before that happens even if she got pregnant today. Charlotte will be 6 in May. When she’s 13, this hypothetical will be 7 or younger. Any confiding probably wouldn’t happen until they were adults. Kate and Pippa are 2 years apart, not 6 or more.

    She probably wants that 4th child. And Will, that great conservationist and humanist, will still tell people in Africa not to have 4 children.

    • kelleybelle says:

      She’s worn out already from three pregnancies, far too thin, and frankly, far too old. I think it’s just Us trying to focus attention away from the Sussexes using the only “talent” Kate has: broodmare.

      • Kay says:

        “Too old”? Seriously? She’s BARELY 39. Millions of normal women around the world have babies at that age without issue. Fertility starts to go down in your later 30’s, and the risks slightly increase, but the overwhelming statistical odds are that she and a theoretical baby would be perfectly fine and healthy.

      • Elizabeth says:

        A woman is not “too old” at 39, plus Kate has access to the best medical care possible. My (financially privileged) aunt had triplets at the age of 41, all healthy. (They were doing fertility treatments. I still remember how *exhausted* she was all the time even with help and plenty of money.)

        With that said, I’m 40, and the last thing I would want to do to myself now is go through a pregnancy and raise a child in my 40s and 50s. But I also didn’t want children when I was younger so I cannot relate at all to Kate.

      • kelleybelle says:

        “Too old” in the sense that she already has three and they’ve clearly taken their toll, those pregnancies. Meghan was later 30s as well when she had Archie. So maybe “too old” is a bit harsh. But I still think she is too thin. I highly doubt another pregnancy will happen. Us magazine is no better than The Enquirer now with their nonsense.

      • Nic919 says:

        I don’t think she’s too old, especially with all the fertility treatments available, but we’ve just heard how exhausted she is as top CEO so another baby would only make things worse. Also, in all previous pregnancies she’s gained a bit of weight before getting pregnant and she has not done that in recent zooms.

        But really I think the main reason why it won’t happen is because William isn’t with her. A fourth baby would have happened in 2019 when the rose affair came out. Instead she hid away for almost two months in March and April and got the Royal Victorian order when she surfaced.

      • Lemons says:

        I don’t think Kate is too old. But I think that she needs to focus on other things outside of having children. Especially considering how they are perpetuating this “sacrifice to the wolves” strategy for anyone who is not heir to the throne.

      • Liz version 700 says:

        My cousin is a month away from giving birth at 44 and she is a physical therapist part time with a kid at home. She did fertility treatments with both kids, and is middle class. At 39 with previous pregnancies she could absolutely havexx cr another healthy pregnancy.

      • Mrs.Krabapple says:

        I didn’t read the “too old” comment as saying 39 year old women can’t/shouldn’t have kids. I took it to mean that KATE shouldn’t have kids at 39 because the three prior ones took a toll on her and aged her prematurely.

      • swirlmamad says:

        “Far too old” is utterly ridiculous and frankly, offensive.

      • MaryContrary says:

        Oh please. She’s 39. She’s not remotely “too old.”

      • windyriver says:

        I think it’s dealing with William that’s taken its toll on Kate, not the pregnancies.

      • Bunny says:

        Nah. She’s fine. I had my last at 42, and like Kate, had hyperemesis gravidarum every time, to the point of being hospitalised.

        Her roaming, angry spouse ages her, not children.

      • Marion says:

        Please people, read what Kelleybelle wrote. She didn’t say Kate was too old for another baby, she said that her pregnancies aged her…which is true. She looks far much older than her age…and than Meghan…

      • Wiglet Watcher says:

        Kate has HG every time? Where is there evidence of this? She’s only seen enjoying pregnancy, gaining weight, eating out, sledding, flying in planes, driving cars, etc…
        HG was said by her then grossly incompetent KP PR and used to bring William home and excuse her from royal work, but never mentioned again. There’s only evidence she Was healthy and enjoyed pregnancy.

      • notasugarhere says:

        There’s never been any evidence of HG. Simply a vague statement from over anxious staff that was walked back (which everyone seems to forget). Driving herself, repeated overseas holidays, and healthy weight gain are not signs of HG.

        Her silence every year on HG Awareness Day speaks volumes.

      • Elizabeth says:

        Marion, she literally wrote Kate is “far too old.”

      • Trashaddict says:

        Physically she is not too old for sure. Emotionally….?

    • booboocita says:

      There are nine years between my oldest sister and my youngest, and they’re very close — always have been, in fact. When she was a child herself, my older sis would tell people that my little sis was her baby. Even if Charlotte won’t have a confidante for a while, a sister — even one much younger — can be a real blessing.

      As for Willnot and his conservation efforts, wellllll … there’s a very telling article, “The Original Karen,” about white aristocratic “settlers” in Kenya and how they live today. PWBT is mentioned, along with the Craigs and their estate. It has a lot to say about so-called white conservationists.

      • (TheOG) Jan90067 says:

        My younger sister is 8 1/2 yrs younger than me, and we’ve always been close. From the moment she was born, she was *my baby* lol. Actually, 3 nurses my mom hired to help at home the first few wk (1 at a time!) quit because I would tell them they “couldn’t tell *ME* what to do with *MY* baby sister!” lol We have our moments as adults, of course, but we do know that we are HERE for each other, no matter what. There is always that bond.

        I do think the “optics” (they do love that word!) would be AWFUL to have a very public pregnancy now, with Brexit, the economy of the public during virus shutdowns (not getting a paycheck, losing homes, not being able to pay rent, for food, etc). And here come the nation’s foremost benefits scroungers (who just had an article written about their HUGE financials) putting ANOTHER “mouth” on the dole errrr….”Sovereign Grant”.

        I think that’d be a nail in the coffin for them, and a boost up to end the monarchy after Petty Brenda goes to the great big golden piano room in the sky.

      • Emile says:

        @Booboocita, I read that piece the other day after someone had shared it on another thread. It’s a really great exploration of the legacy of British colonialism in Kenya and about white conservation in particular. Thanks for sharing it again here, I hope other folks have a chance to read it too!

      • Granger says:

        On the other hand, my mom’s sister was 8 years older and could barely tolerate my mom’s presence. They were never close. It can go both ways.

      • Nic919 says:

        It’s also pretty sexist to assume that a sister can’t have a close relationship with a brother and that it has to be a girl. Charlotte and George seem pretty close already. If anyone is odd one out right now it’s Louis.

    • anonymous says:

      C’mon now. I know there’s not a lot of love for Kate but I will give her this, she seems an excellent mommy. Her children appear to be bonded to her, and her to them.

      • Wiglet Watcher says:

        The press and KP started editing out the nannies from family/pap shots because the children were listening and loving towards nanny Maria in a very natural way.

        There was a horse related event where the photogs caught George starting to cry and he ran to nanny Maria. Kate was present.
        Kate might very well be a good mother, but the children appear to get their nurturing from the nannies. At it has by majority been in that family for generations.

      • anonymous says:

        @Wiglet. I hear what your saying. I think inevitably when there is more than parents looking after kiddos, an attachment does happen. I guess I’m going by the videos of Kate interacting with her kids, and the easiness of their body their language with each other. They seek out their mom both while happy and while sad. William’s childhood was negatively affected by the breakdown of his parent’s marriage and the use of Harry and William as pawns, both deliberately and as a matter of collateral damage. Kate appears to have had a happy childhood, by parents that clearly adored her. I think she’s trying to style her parenting skills on her parents example. I will say good luck to her on that front, William seems to be an arrogant selfish man. My husband and I also employed a nanny for our four kids. Our situation was based on an absolute need when I was unable to properly care for all their needs. I’ve been battling Metastatic Breast cancer for nearly 14 years. There were days after treatment that I could do little else than curl up in a fetal position and wait out the nausea and pain. The young ladies who helped us out became family to us. We’ve attended weddings, graduation parties and are regularly in touch after they have moved. It would break my heart to think people thought I was a garbage parent that left the heavy lifting to someone else over my kiddos love for their nanny. I mean no disrespect to you. I’m hoping I can inject another view of the situation.

  5. Snuffles says:

    Just another excuse not to do her job. Maybe another baby will give the tabs something to talk about and get them to back off.

  6. Sofia says:

    Oh I think she definitely wants another kid. She likes kids and honestly, they’re a good “get out of work instantly for 18 months” card for her. Hence why I haven’t ruled it out yet.

  7. notasugarhere says:

    Kate ‘convinced’ him to have Baby #3? William caught drunkenly partying with blonds while Kate was on holiday with Pips/ Kate gets Baby #3 in retribution. I’ve always thought she’d demand Baby #4 for Rose.

    If there is a grain of truth here, it is coming from the Kate/Carole camp not William. Trying to convince people W&K aren’t living separately on the Sandringham Estate. Trying to get people to claim QEII and Kate have so much in common.

    • Nic919 says:

      If this came from people magazine I would be more inclined to think that Carole or Kate gave them this story for just that reason.
      The fidgeting in joint videos wasn’t the sign of a comfortable relationship and suddenly doing zooms at sandringham suggests they are living apart and trying to keep it under cover.
      I’m sure Kate wants a fourth child but if she wasn’t able to leverage the rose gardening into baby four I don’t think it will happen now. This would be far more of an age gap than any of the other kids too.

    • Becks1 says:

      Well, if she got pregnant now, the baby would be born in November, so that’s just over 3.5 years from Louis, and he and charlotte are about 3 years apart, so its more of a gap but not hugely so.

      Regardless, I dont think baby #4 is going to happen, I think if it was going to happen bc of the Rose rumors it would have happened already. I think this story is mostly just BS on the part of US weekly – like anyone who knows the Cambridges is talking about their baby making plans – but also partly a cover for the Sandringham zooms, Kate looking thinner and thinner and unhappy and tense around William, etc.

    • Digital Unicorn says:

      While I don’t think they will have another I can buy this is a Carole plant to jump on the news cycle of Eugenie’s baby announcement, Pippa’s pregnancy and any potential good news from a certain other couple.

      If she was planning on having another baby she wouldn’t be botoxing the sh!t out of her face.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        Like anyone who knows Carole Middleton will see this as nothing but poorly written Fanfiction….by Carole. LOL!

      • Nic919 says:

        That is true. She would have to give up the Botox and fillers and the best time to do that while mostly undercover was last March.

  8. Harper says:

    What happens to Charlotte when baby number 4 turns out to be a boy? I’m sure Kate wants another one and they’ve done nothing in the pandemic so the baby will buy them more than a year of good press.

    • Becks1 says:

      See I go back and forth here. I sort of think Kate wants another girl so Charlotte can have a sister, but I also think that she wants a boy so her family mirrors the queen’s (boy, girl, boy, boy.)

    • cherry says:

      haha, just imagine: Charlotte will have to confide IN A BOY. It’s unthinkable! Everyone knows confiding between siblings is strictly gender-based!

    • (TheOG) Jan90067 says:

      At this point, if they DO try for a child, I can *definitely* see them doing a bit of gender selection for “help” in making sure. Didn’t the Beckhams do that to finally get Harper?

    • Tessa says:

      And she might think the royals would want “more boys” so she would be proud. Although, she would have three spares instead of two and George will still be the most “special.”

  9. Alarmjaguar says:

    What happened to the ‘she’s so exhausted’ storyline? Having another baby isn’t going to change that!

  10. Seraphina says:

    First off, wanting another child when you have three is a bit much when considering the fact they live off the people. It’s just narrowminded and selfish. But entitlement thinking is showing here.
    Second, a girl for Charlotte to confide in? For reals??? Their kids too will be treated the way Wills treated Harry. I hope I am wrong, but usually the slop you serve to others ends up back on your plate.

  11. cherry says:

    That US Weekly story is so dumb. ” Kate has been eating a “nutrient-rich” diet to prepare her body.” No she hasn’t. She’s thinner than she’s ever been. “Because she knows that her “clock is ticking.””” Can we please stop using the same stupid language ad nauseam about women possibly/maybe/for sure/within the year/as soon as possible/while they still can having babies. And can we please, please refrain from clock metaphors for wombs for good.

    • Elizabeth says:

      Thank you! I was so grossed out by that. It’s so reductive and demeaning. A woman is more than her fertility.

    • molly says:

      All of this. Dragging out old metaphors and speculating about the fertility and sex life of famous women is SO tiresome. It’s also invasive and gross.

    • Maria says:

      I think this came from Kate herself or her mother, honestly.
      Women ARE more than their fertility and motherhood but Kate doesn’t seem to feel that way about herself.
      And she enjoys the baby speculation, when it is about her. Just remember those sour faces she pulled about Meghan’s pregnancy.

      • notasugarhere says:

        And her stating she felt ‘broody’ when crowds were congratulating her about Archie’s birth during a public walkabout. It always has to be about Kate and her potential pregnancies, no one else.

      • Nic919 says:

        Kate isn’t a feminist and dedicated her life to “catching a prince “ so let’s not confuse her with modern women and what they normally have as goals. She’s benefitted handsomely from the patriarchy and the best way to continue that is to remind a certain segment of racist royalists of her ability to produce heirs and move Harry and Archie further down the line.

  12. Olenna says:

    Oh, really? I remember the BS the carnival of so-called ‘experts’ and trolls spewed about Meghan when pregnant with Archie. From Elle: “…in the hours following the couple’s pregnancy announcement, attention returned with renewed fervour to the Duchess of Sussex’s age. With headlines citing her ‘geriatric pregnancy’ and articles charging her with ‘approaching 40’ – even though she’s still three years shy – it seems that spurious narratives about ‘later stage’ pregnancies, and the risks associated, are enduring.”

    • cherry says:

      gross. I forgot about that.

    • Liz version 700 says:

      That was so so gross.

    • HeatherC says:

      That was so gross. They took a medical classification (which is accurate. A “geriatric pregnancy” is defined as 35+) and made it a moral judgement and flogging whip.

      They used that term against Meghan and no one pointed out that strictly by medical definition, KATE had a “geriatric pregnancy” with Louis!

      • kelleybelle says:

        Nope, not a peep about it, was there. And apparently Kate had Louis because Will was a bad boy.

  13. Beth says:

    She may have been trying to have another baby for all we know. The comment about being image-conscious in pregnancy is unkind.

    • molly says:

      Or she may have just lost one in a horribly tragic and crushingly sad manner. That’s why it’s gross to speculate on the fertility and reproductive plans of any woman, much less one so in the public eye. You have no idea what’s happened or currently happening to her.

    • Maria says:

      After the subtle criticism she pointed at Meghan for not doing the same “baby reveal” as her, I think it’s not that unkind applied in this context, personally.

  14. My3cents says:

    Didn’t William lecture the peasants a while back that they should not have more than 2 children? So far for a slimmed down monarchy.
    I’m guessing most of us ordinary people also don’t helicopter around so much or live in castles.

    • notasugarhere says:

      He only lectured people in ‘Africa’ to stop having children, My3cents.

      • Seraphina says:

        To be fair, I too would have 3 more kids if I had a pot of money that never ended from the people of the country I live in, a slew of places to go on retreat when things get a “bit too much” and a slew of help – cleaning ladies, chef, ect. Oh yes, and a MIL who gives in to what ever I want because I am the golden meal ticket.

      • Watson says:

        Notasugar: correct. It’s only ok to have loads of kids if you’re white in Will’s opinion.

    • Harper says:

      Kate should just get a few more puppies instead of a baby. Did she and Carole forget that it’s also time to start co-splaying the Queen’s love of dogs? Doesn’t have to be corgis, Kate can pick her favorite breed.

      • (TheOG) Jan90067 says:

        Doesn’t her family (first mother and now brother, James) breed Spaniels? I think he just gifted them another black Spaniel pup.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Yes, Carole has a breeding operation. That’s why the death of W&K’s dog at such a young age (cancer?) raises serious questions about her breeding practices.

    • Mrs.Krabapple says:

      Plus, Charles wants to slim down the monarchy. If William and Kate do have another child, I wonder if Charles will take away their titles (all except George) when he becomes king? Because other than the actual monarch who is the head of state, all other family members are superfluous and shouldn’t be receiving public money.

      • Tessa says:

        PErhaps Charlotte would get to keep her title too because she would be the next in line to be Princess Royal, after Anne.

  15. Cecilia says:

    The only reason she would want to have another one is to get out of her workload.

    • anotherlily says:

      and to get a lot of attention. Eugenie and the new baby will now be a focus of attention, Zara will be giving birth in a few months and now there’s Meghan with second baby on the way. That’s 3 new royal babies this year, 3 Christenings, lots of cute photos. Also, I read a mention of twins for Meghan. Just speculation I suppose but it is a possibility.

      • FicklePickle says:

        Eh, EVERY celebrity pregnancy has a lot of speculation about twins. They need something to fill up column inches and there’s a lot of ‘traditional’ gossipy pregnancy topics that are hot button issues these days.

  16. Belli says:

    I thought after Louis that there would be Baby 4, but it’s been long enough now that I think there won’t be another. Rumour at the time was that William wanted 2 and Kate had to persuade him to have 3, so 4 would be a stretch anyway.

    • kelleybelle says:

      Yes, that’s what I think too.

      • UptownGirl says:

        Yes, it has been widely reported that PWT was adamant about 3, yet alone 4!! He is not so convincing. This article has Caroles fingers all over it since Pippa is pregnant.

  17. notasugarhere says:

    ‘They would have been able to gestate in peace at home, with no demands to step out and, say, be performatively keen.’

    Kaiser, that’s not how Kate rolls. She likes being able to get out of work with these pregnancies. Being pregnant during lockdown, while still doing these handful of zoom meetings? That doesn’t achieve her goal of a minimum of two years free of any meaningful work per child.

  18. L84Tea says:

    I am getting the vibe that this is the media saying, “you should have a 4th kid” because then the Cambridges can actually have something newsworthy to print.

    • L4frimaire says:

      Some have pointed out on Twitter that they basically just announced to everyone, including the Queen apparently, that they’ll be having lots of ovulation sex, because at that age, when you want to get pregnant, it revolves around your cycle. I had my 2nd at 40 and we were really trying, like checking calendars and fertility windows. They’ll be doing the belly check each time they appear in public now. Why put that pressure on themselves just to get a bit of a news headline? I guess there’s a bumper crop of new babies in their families with her sister and Zara pregnant, Meghan was pregnant ( sad loss 😢), and Eugenie just delivered, so there is a demand as well. It just seems strange to put this out if you’re not pregnant yet. Seems kinda weird and tacky, especially after your cousin just had a baby. You know how the royals get about thinking they’re being upstaged or overshadowed.

  19. The Duchess says:

    This story is so on-brand for Kate to dictate what she wants from the Peen. This is clearly either a warning shot from camp Middleton or from the press because the well is drying up. Especially from Meghan’s glorious court victory yesterday. Kate definitely wants a 4th child, but I don’t think she’ll ever get it (would’ve happened by now, imo). She only got Louis because Baldy was caught in the alps. If she thinks another baby is going to solve all of the insecurities and pressure she’s feeling right now, she needs to think again.

  20. Maria says:

    I think she really really wants a fourth and always has.
    I think William DOES NOT want one and didn’t even want a third in the first place, and I think if he had been on board with this they would have gotten pregnant in the middle of Sussexit.
    Even if they do have a fourth, I don’t think it’ll go down as successfully as they think with the public, particularly after the “exhausted” comments. I can see most people not caring.

  21. Amy Bee says:

    I don’t think she will have another child. Meghan may be gone but Kate is still competing with her. She wants her work in Early Years to be known and praised, if she gets pregnant it means her work will be delayed for another year and she cedes the spotlight to Meghan.

    • notasugarhere says:

      Kate’s staff want her ‘work’ with early years to be praised. Kate simply wants unearned public praise for showing up and posing.

    • Maria says:

      She delays her own work more than anyone or anything. She wants to be praised and known, but I don’t think she cares if it’s for the Early Years or anything like that.
      Having kids is the only thing she’s really known for. It’s the one thing that has a fair chance of overshadowing Meghan (it won’t, but it will come closer than anything else). She knows nothing else she does will.

      • Tessa says:

        I think Kate and Will trot out their children so much it gets boring. And in some cases obvious they are using them for damage control like the red carpet appearance on the heels of the criticized Royal Train trip during a pandemic. I think Harry and Meghan are a lot more interesting.

  22. CC2 says:

    Mehh, William doesn’t seem like the type that will give into 4 kids. Kate herself said she was soo exhausted.

    But Kate also sounded like she wants more kids, when she told people that William doesn’t want more than 3.

    Maybe people know that a certain couple may be pregnant and they want to get it out there? Idk.

    I don’t really want to say too much. It’s possible that Kate may have had a miscarriage or false positives that may be upsetting her. Who knows.

  23. Dee says:

    The storyline keeps changing. Once upon a time, it was written that Kate wanted 3 kids, just like the Middleton family.

  24. Murphy says:

    Yeah I wouldn’t have been surprised and won’t be surprised if they have another.

  25. Ginger says:

    I really don’t see this happening. William only wanted 2 to begin with.

  26. alibeebee says:

    @kelleybelle far too old???! My God .. I’m 45 and pregnant with my first . 17 weeks today and so far so good, no issues no concerns I have been scanned up the yeehaw and not considered high risk . I wonder what you’d say about me?! so if 39 is too old I must be a fossil! 😛

  27. Absurdist1968 says:

    The Duchess is all about that debilitating hyperemesis again?

  28. Beth says:

    Well, being preggo is a two for one deal for her-she stops being dragged for being completely lazy and it keeps her in the press a lot for a year (which she already knows will treat her with kid gloves.)

  29. Over it says:

    I suspect waity wants a baby because she can’t let the queen granddaughters have the last babies and two she can’t stand pippa getting more attention than her because she is pregnant. I think Kate is a very jealous insecure woman who is all about meeeeeeee.

  30. Over it says:

    Oh and Willy been straying a lot and this is her shut up gift if it happens

  31. Liz version 700 says:

    This probably is fanfic, but honestly the thought of another child brought into Incandescent with Rage William and Mean-girl Kate’s family to be chewed up by the Royal family makes me sad. The press is already starting in on Charlotte asking if she is “feisty” and infecting she is a trouble maker. She is 6.

  32. Steph says:

    This is…. dumb. Why would 2020 be a bad year for her to get pregnant? She can’t work during her pregnancies bc of her hyperemesis. The only reason to delay while “her clock is ticking” is bc it’ll give her years off of actual work and why waste knee on 2020 when didn’t have to work anyway?

    • February-Pisces says:

      I think she doesn’t want to merge lockdown with her pregnancy sickness time off. She will want to get pregnant as soon as the pandemic eases and everyone is back to their normal working life. Then she can prolong her stay at home and avoid doing more duties.

      • Nic919 says:

        I can see why she wouldn’t want to waste the free ride that the pandemic gives her in 2020, but I still maintain that William has no interest. The anticipated time to space out another child two years from Louis, as has been done with every other child was to get pregnant in 2019 which was also when the rose affair went public. The fact that this never happened and she disappeared for almost two months in spring 2019 and only for a ribbon when she emerged tells me that William said no more kids despite the acknowledged cheating. And with the Sussexes getting targeted for being in Canada in the later part of that year, it would also have provided even more positive news for the Cambridges with another baby.

        I noticed they are getting ripped on social media for this story though, as in its tasteless to announce trying for another kid right now. Even baby making doesn’t produce the same goodwill it once did, with diminishing returns even noticeable after Louis was born.

      • Steph says:

        @february-pisces @nic919 you both articulated what I meant better. She’s waiting till the end of the pandemic to extend her time off.

        I also think she’s highly jealous of the Brookbanks right now, and might have gotten wind of Harry and Meghan expecting again. Or she is trying to rack up the attention Meg got for her miscarriage piece.

  33. L4frimaire says:

    Look! There’s a squirrel 🐿! Let’s go chase it🙄.

  34. Julia K says:

    Her baby making days are over. She has said, on a walkabout, “William doesn’t want any more children”. This was couple of years ago, she said she was feeling broody when seeing babies in the audience but shut down more babies for her. Anyone else remember that video?

    • Beach Dreams says:

      Yup! That was actually around this time last year. Or maybe January…it definitely happened in the first couple of months before COVID-19 shut everything down. I’m sure it was posted and discussed here.

  35. A says:

    I think the article is just recycling stale news at this point. Every one knows that Kate is a “broody mum” who wants a fourth baby, while William would have been happy with just Charlotte and George.

    At any rate, if they do wind up having a fourth child, I expect a full, sincere, heartfelt apology from William for talking all that shit about poor people breeding too much and how that’s bad for the environment, when he himself has more children than the replacement rate. I expect him to state outright how his views on the subject were informed by eugenics inspired rhetoric aimed at restricting the reproductive rights of poor people, that he was wrong, ill-informed, and deeply unkind in what he said, and that he is sorry. Otherwise, he’s just a disgusting, stupid hypocrite talking out of both sides of his fucking mouth, and he will have proved (if he has not already) that he is not fit to do any sort of environmental activism at all.

    • Antonym says:

      Narrator’s voice: “He was a disgusting, stupid hypocrite talking out of both sides of his fucking mouth. Proving that he is not fit to do any sort of environmental activism at all.”

    • notasugarhere says:

      She was hinting at wanting another and taking the focus of Meghan who had just had Archie. As I wrote above, it is all about Kate and her kids – no one else’s. She knows she gets attention for hinting at being pregnant, hinting at wanting more, so she keeps doing it.

  36. Mar1 says:

    The article is rife with speculation by the usual unnamed “source.” I don’t buy it. If they really wanted more kids, they would’ve done it already. She may want more, but he seems not to. This non-story seems calculated to divert attention from something…or someone. I wonder what…or whom?

  37. Jumpingthesnark says:

    She might have talked him into having another kid as a way to restore goodwill with RR and public. Or at least delay the inevitable down turn ( which has already started sine the Sussexes left). I could see him going for that. Problem is, they can’t go on doing that forever , and at the end of the day, the BRF is still an archaic and corrupt institution, as people are starting to realize.

  38. yinyang says:

    I don’t think so. Public sentiment is at an all time low with them. I don’t think William is that stupid, he’s already pushed it with three after that world pop. speech of his and with covid going on people will be pissed, William and Kate can only bury their heads in the sand for so long.

  39. Beach Dreams says:

    Oh good…the man who lectures Africans about overpopulation and the pampered woman who complains about being exhausted want another child. Part of me is inclined to think this is just more tabloid nonsense, possibly done to draw attention from Meghan and Eugenie. This could even be an attempt at distraction from questions and implications about this curious “working at Sandringham” setup. I’m not going to completely discount the possibility of a 4th Cambridge kid though.

  40. Donna B. says:

    I read an article stating Kate wanted a fourth child so she would be absolved from performing all official royal duties. She would only have to focus on raising the kids. When H&M left, that put a wrench into her plans according to the article. But then, her grandmother-in-law had four children & worked, so I don’t understand why she would think she wouldn’t have to work too. I guess her role in being a “future queen” means she just has to raise her children & that’s it.

  41. February-Pisces says:

    Of course she wants a fourth kid. I think a fourth kid right now actually makes sense for kate. It will delay her having to do any actual work and it will stop Willie from leaving her, for a few more years at least. If you think about it, if Willie and rose are still seeing each other, and he tells her he’s stuck to Kate for another extra 2-3 years because of the baby, then it would impact their relationship and any chance of them being official. I think in his head he’s always thinking of a way to exit his marriage, and Kate knows this. That’s why she was so delighted when harry and Meghan left, it strengthened her position even more.

    If he goes with it, it will only because he needs to keep the press fed with content, that’s all.

    • Wiglet Watcher says:

      Rose is hardly his only mistress. She’s just the Most notable one he got caught with. He’s probably seeing a few.

      • notasugarhere says:

        I’m with you on this, WW. Rose may be an occasional bedmate, but it is more likely Rose and Rocksavage are letting William use Houghton as his affair headquarters.

    • Nic919 says:

      Kate went into hiding in March and April of 2019 because of the rose affair being exposed and she would have been in a position to have a fourth child then. Except she didn’t, which tells me William has no interest in even pretending at this point.

      I don’t think he’s still with Rose, but he’s definitely with others. It’s how he got covid and never gave it to Kate or the kids after all. And why he hid getting it until months later. And Kate could easily be mad at Rose for providing a home base for the women.

    • February-Pisces says:

      Of course he has other women. Even if he remarried he would still have other women, just like Charles. He probably has his main mistress (his camilla) with whom he’s having a relationship, a couple of side chicks scattered all over the place, like one in Scotland, London, Norfolk, South Africa etc. Then he has his one nighters who just get humped and dumped.

      But there is something about rose that feels different. Whenever I do tarot readings on them she keeps appearing (Pisces). There is a Pisces woman that Kate is more threatened by than Meghan, and a Pisces woman that keeps appearing in Williams future where he’s torn and cant make a decision. I actually did a reading where I asked about him becoming king. There were a whole load of negative cards but the outcome was undecided. His Pisces lady was at the top with the justice card (weighing up his options) and 8 of cups (deciding to walk away). I think like harry he wants to leave it all behind and walk off into the sunset with a woman he love (who’s not Kate).

  42. lucylee says:

    Why would she want a 4th child if she is exhausted caring for the three she already has?
    And, I don’t understand why you would alert your grandmother that you are no longer using birth control. The jokes write themselves for these latest revelations.

    • L4frimaire says:

      There were some doozies under the Cosmopolitan tweet. Like why you telling your granny you’re sexing your wife? Think one had the word “raw dogging”, I kid you not. Like, just ewww and TMI. Still don’t know why they put that out there. If anyone watched the show Scandal, there was a scene where the presidents wife faked a pregnancy, ( having faked a miscarriage on the campaign trail),then basically informed the husband they needed to get on making that baby in order to follow through on the lie. These people are becoming absurd.

      • Nic919 says:

        Yes they got ripped hard on that tweet. It is pretty pathetic to announce something like that. And even though it’s not true, I think Carole has misjudged how many are interested at thinking about that dysfunctional and privileged couple making another human that will be supported by taxpayers for most of its life.

  43. Carolind says:

    This is a different age from Elizabeth II. Britain vastly overcrowded. No, no and no!

  44. Alibeebee says:

    Well is MAnd H who are preggo!

  45. Sid says:

    And now we know why this story popped up, out of the blue. Too bad the Cambridges don’t put as much effort into working as they do into this bizarre, one-sided battle with two people who are happily ensconced an entire ocean away.

    • Nic919 says:

      Exactly. Obviously someone wanted to get a bit more attention before the other news came out. Just like the broken Britain coming out a few days before the cookbook. So predictable.

  46. Jules says:

    Well, now it makes sense. Congratulations, Meghan and Harry!

    • Frida_K says:


      I read the news, oohed and aahed over the lovely photograph accompanying the announcement, and then immediately thought about the Keens.